How NOT To WELD! Top 5 Beginner Mistakes!

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In this video I show you the top 5 mistakes I see people make when they are learning how to weld. I go much deeper into how to set up a proper welding environment, welding tools you'll need, what welder to buy, and a ton of other tips you wont find anywhere else in my WELDER 101 Course!
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@longrifle.
@longrifle. 2 жыл бұрын
As an ex rig welder, listen up would be welders, this is the gospel! This is the info you wont get from books. Only experience brings this kind of knowledge. Good to see you passing on your real world knowledge Steve. Props buddy. Only thing ill add is. Have your camera zoom in and show them the difference between penetration and little to no penetration. its important to be able to spot the difference.
@WelderUpVegas
@WelderUpVegas 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Long Rifle, I will do that. I appreciate your comment!
@chazrutledge9737
@chazrutledge9737 4 жыл бұрын
"Say your building a door frame, for a, uhh door." Just thought it was funny. Thnx for the tips.
@ski5150
@ski5150 Жыл бұрын
Dude, I think you might be one of the coolest dudes I've come across. Love your truck video!!
@WelderUpVegas
@WelderUpVegas Жыл бұрын
Thanks Rene A., I appreciate it! Thanks for watching.
@MrMicastro
@MrMicastro 4 жыл бұрын
I am a follower of his work and I really admire his cars and his vocation to manual work. I hope very soon to wear his shirts here in Costa Rica.
@Lumixster
@Lumixster 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, I learnt welding from a guy i used to work with, I been welding for 16 years in Heavy industry, Building and Installing Welding Robots. One can never say they learnt all about welding, still so much to learn. Cheers.
@Dr.Mauro2022
@Dr.Mauro2022 4 жыл бұрын
I literally lived your video... Thank you from all of us from Monza (Italy)
@nickstar166
@nickstar166 3 жыл бұрын
for getting a good ground on rusted/painted shit. i just clamp it on there and twist it back and forth a bit to dig through the rust a bit.
@thehotwheelshunter
@thehotwheelshunter 4 жыл бұрын
Good welding tips man I'm a journeyman Millwright with 20 years experience and 14 welding certificates and I approve this video I'm a big fan of the ESAB welder even though I've never used one I would love to get one
@tomasjankauskas4761
@tomasjankauskas4761 3 жыл бұрын
WelderUp Best show Ever Thank You Steve!!!
@kenmcclain7317
@kenmcclain7317 4 жыл бұрын
That's a good video for people starting out to weld. For the gloves you usually can find them in a welding supply store
@Junior-fd8ux
@Junior-fd8ux 4 жыл бұрын
No bullshit i started to play around/teaching myself how to weld after watching your show. Iv watched many shows where they weld, i have friends who weld, long ago i even went to a vocational school to learn how to weld (for 2 classes smh). Anyway for some reason watching you sitting at your table going to work kind of inspired me and made me want to learn to be a good welder plus save myself money too i guess right. So the old Millermatic 33 my old man bought for me is finally doing work because of you and again no bs. Thank you man an esp for the video..
@waltercobb4675
@waltercobb4675 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your knowledge today I learned a lot more new stuff from you
@lowandslowga
@lowandslowga 4 жыл бұрын
Great tips!! I'm am amateur welder. I cam weld ok but dont do it often enough. I always struggle with heat and wire speed.i can't wait to learn more from you. Thanks for taking the time to set up these how too's and tips videos Steve
@kenmcclain7317
@kenmcclain7317 4 жыл бұрын
More you practice the better you'll get
@royweyant4382
@royweyant4382 2 жыл бұрын
Love your show, love watching you reclaim what has been cast aside.
@WelderUpVegas
@WelderUpVegas 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@MrSlowestD16
@MrSlowestD16 4 жыл бұрын
Appreciate tips like this as a an amateur welder. Thanks!
@ThinkHarder
@ThinkHarder 4 жыл бұрын
You see him, i love this , the man is a tv personality and awesome fabricator and he actually take the time and effort to do a fun and educational video to teach trick of the trade that he has perform for all his life and share it with people who can benefit from this , cheers man, i have not seen jesse james ever doing this, ( dont see an ounce of arrogance in this man here ) we need more like him, cheers
@jimmywilson1388
@jimmywilson1388 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you 100%… Check out the scotch brite clean and strip XT pro disc for your angle grinder. If you buy one I swear you’ll wish you had a 10 pack of them. They rip ass through mill scale, rust and paint and they don’t hardly remove any metal. It’s worth it to me just for the mill scale alone. Great video man, I subscribed and I love your work btw… 👍🏼
@WelderUpVegas
@WelderUpVegas Жыл бұрын
Thanks Justin, welcome! Thanks for the tip, I give it a try.
@patbai6331
@patbai6331 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome work mate Thank you for these epic tips helps a lot
@martinmakarick1957
@martinmakarick1957 4 жыл бұрын
Great tips I only wish my teach would have taught me like this in tech school instead of getting sloshed and letting the class be a free for all. I learned more from you in 5 minutes than I learned there in 2 years.
@jameski5oeb668
@jameski5oeb668 4 жыл бұрын
If people would read the manual that came with the 110v welder they would know, SP-100 is only capable of welding 1/8” ish in a single pass and that is with flux core .035 and multi pass will get them a bit more. 100 amps is .105 thickness on a single pass. Like the video!!
@popsbronco
@popsbronco 4 жыл бұрын
thanks Steve howd you know i only have a basic 110 welder one step up from my first buzz box lol. Great video. I will use all those tips Thanks for making these how to vids ! love the show and your builds and the work your team put out. my dream is to come check out Welderup in Vegas one day! so much talent and creativity ❤
@sylsly9766
@sylsly9766 4 жыл бұрын
The best soldier in the world. Thanks Steve
@derekjackson2008
@derekjackson2008 4 жыл бұрын
whey i was little my dad had a portable and did field repairs on farm equipment. his ground clamps were always buggered up from just welding it to the work piece to get a good ground lol
@SuperDanny1979
@SuperDanny1979 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve!! Great video
@MalcOfLincoln
@MalcOfLincoln 4 жыл бұрын
Spot on advice Steve.
@nrzls6384
@nrzls6384 4 жыл бұрын
Very interested in learning to weld any basic tools or things you could recommend I get. Just got hired with a welding company trying to prepare if possible
@pedrocollazo4437
@pedrocollazo4437 4 жыл бұрын
I like your ideas of marketing very smart man
@Dazelske
@Dazelske 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome Tips. I am beginner welder. Maybe some tips for maintenance for a welder. That would be great help
@tomherd4179
@tomherd4179 4 жыл бұрын
For the two 45's being welded together would it help some to put a little bevel on them?
@franksgarage8551
@franksgarage8551 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Easy simple things to make a better fit and finish. Only thing i dont do is anti-spatter spray. And for the ground, if its questionable i clamp a vise grip good and tight, and twist it a little to make it bite into the metal. Then clamp ground onto it. One question, do you ever use a copper block?
@awesomearizona-dino
@awesomearizona-dino 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome Tips...especially the 110v stuff...some people do dangerous stuff with 110v. I think you could have some metal Welderup gear for sale, like torch holders, Name plates like on the video, etc. cnc plasma is cool, my friend just bought a 4x8 cnc table, can cut 3/4 clean!!
@daquanedwards8241
@daquanedwards8241 4 жыл бұрын
Great tips... thank you🙏🏾
@jonathanlittle3012
@jonathanlittle3012 4 жыл бұрын
Great tips man. My kids will be learning how to use my everlast welders. I should show them this video first.
@zachkuby87
@zachkuby87 4 жыл бұрын
No you shouldn't
@Bearded_SARTECH
@Bearded_SARTECH 4 жыл бұрын
Legit welding tips...love it. Hard to find legit "field" use tips.
@fr0ztt780
@fr0ztt780 4 жыл бұрын
Good tips👍 and nice gloves
@mshort7087
@mshort7087 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds goofy, but, Butter Pam cooking spray works good as anti spatter. It really keeps the buckshot from sticking where you don’t want it
@stevemiller5525
@stevemiller5525 4 жыл бұрын
Please read about the danger of welding over brake clean.
@rynstvy
@rynstvy 4 жыл бұрын
Steve Miller yes! Exactly the chemicals in some can kill
@SweatyFatGuy
@SweatyFatGuy 4 жыл бұрын
First thing I thought when he said use brake clean. Not a good idea if you like to stay alive.
@thehotwheelshunter
@thehotwheelshunter 4 жыл бұрын
Brake clean evaporates away 100% in seconds it's only way to make sure surface is perfectly clean and it acts as an etching agent When painting try to TIG weld something without cleaning it with brake clean first tell me how it turns out
@stevemiller5525
@stevemiller5525 4 жыл бұрын
the hotwheels hunter us Acetone it is the preferred method to clean tig wire and the steel or aluminum your welding. I’m no expert, but if you check just about any of the weld videos . That’s what you will find them using.
@thehotwheelshunter
@thehotwheelshunter 4 жыл бұрын
@@stevemiller5525 I'm pretty sure brake cleaner is acetone in an aerosol form they do the same exact thing and they're equally flammable
@levielizondo5991
@levielizondo5991 4 жыл бұрын
My old boss was stupid about welding. He was always in a hurry to get stuff done. Cut it and weld it. There was never any prep to make it look good and make it right. Even when a customer bought a sheet of 14 or 16 gauge steel, if it had a big rust spot on it too bad, metal is metal and money is money to him. Pissed me off that hed always cut corners to get the most money out of any situation. Worst of all he had a horrible temper and a short one. So it was always his way or no way. Hed always try to start shit with someone and he almost got his ass kicked by a coworker that was twice his size and military.
@ryanc9235
@ryanc9235 4 жыл бұрын
Just saying never coat your metal with a cleaner cause when you weld on it your breathing the fumes of the cleaner in
@punchinello6537
@punchinello6537 4 жыл бұрын
thats why you use a high voc cleaner like brake clean or laquer thinner, it evaps so quickly u dont even need to worry about burning the solvent.
@codyramos3200
@codyramos3200 4 жыл бұрын
if your that worried about minimal left over residue fumes then welding aint for you
@codyramos3200
@codyramos3200 4 жыл бұрын
@@googleuser3148 , you do know that theres non chlorinated brake cleaner right . you probably know that since your Savvy
@ryanturriff6020
@ryanturriff6020 4 жыл бұрын
@@punchinello6537 that is incorrect, not all elements of the cleaner evaporates. when you weld over a cleaner like laquer thinner, the UV light burns what remains on the part turning it into a Chlorinated Gas. brake cleaner and laquer thinner are old school solutions that they have found to be dangerous to your health. I know from personal experience that once i switched from laquer thinner to a cleaner designed for the purpose, i have stopped getting the shivers and hard of breathing..
@punchinello6537
@punchinello6537 4 жыл бұрын
@@ryanturriff6020 thats 100% false, uv light has nothing to do with anything in this equation, the only way to get a chlorinated gas is to burn a chlorinated brake cleaner which i hope by now people realize is bad, getting shivers and shakes from welding is most likely due to welding aluminium or galvanized steels with out a fresh air hood, as both of those cause cns damage.
@tertessa
@tertessa 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video
@thebeastfromthesoutheast7765
@thebeastfromthesoutheast7765 4 жыл бұрын
I use a dual action sander with 80grit to get the edges of the steel smooth to weld together because a flap disc can wear down your edges easy if your not careful
@ryantheentrepreneur4040
@ryantheentrepreneur4040 4 жыл бұрын
Great advice 😁
@pedrocollazo4437
@pedrocollazo4437 4 жыл бұрын
On the last step #5 you mentioned 110 welders would it apply to 140Hd welders as well? For 1/4 plates and above
@noobtube142
@noobtube142 4 жыл бұрын
first mistake beginners make is taking off the grinder guard. hint hint
@danmartinez9497
@danmartinez9497 4 жыл бұрын
He ain't a beginner
@noobtube142
@noobtube142 3 жыл бұрын
@@danmartinez9497 no shit, trades poke fun my guy lol
@AdamMcEuen
@AdamMcEuen 3 жыл бұрын
The guards just get in the way though dammit...😜
@AdamMcEuen
@AdamMcEuen 3 жыл бұрын
@@danmartinez9497 didn't work at in any of the Automotive related trades I guess.,.
@thejustmechannel3298
@thejustmechannel3298 4 жыл бұрын
Man brother thanks alot. Helpful for sure!! Love peace and axle grease brother
@6spd85notch
@6spd85notch 2 жыл бұрын
I’d really like for you to weld me up a nice fuel cell for my mustang. I’m having fuel starvation issues. I’m going to buy a welder this weekend. I’ve welded once at a friend’s shop. I’m going to practice welding floors in my other mustang. Seems like a 110 welder should cut it. Man that woman can shift a truck in your other video.
@terrinewman7390
@terrinewman7390 4 жыл бұрын
Steve, I hace a 110 welder and it welds 1/4 in all the time, I use flux core wire when I do.
@carterwilson5365
@carterwilson5365 4 жыл бұрын
How about some reviews on the Esab rebel welders I see in the background?
@louispugliese7200
@louispugliese7200 4 жыл бұрын
Love it !!
@Bram_Sheehan
@Bram_Sheehan 4 жыл бұрын
How about instead of running a 110 “200 feet out there” take that oxy/acet and gas weld the joint since you have it out there to pre heat the metal anyway??
@WeldingForJesus
@WeldingForJesus 4 жыл бұрын
Darn good point there. Not to mention that SMAW machines are down to the price of a welding helmet, so there is no reason not to grab one.
@georgemcmillan9172
@georgemcmillan9172 4 жыл бұрын
For as long as I can remember, my dad would collect up as many of the slag bbs he could get, and we'd load them up in shotgun shell! I still do it now. Despite all of the "experts" in the comments, everything you've talked about is just good common sense, which in today's world is not very common...
@jared2235
@jared2235 4 жыл бұрын
couple weeks ago I picked up a 70 amp flux core welder couldn't resist $80 lol been stickin things together since i got it
@randymack1782
@randymack1782 4 жыл бұрын
I love a 110 volt MIG welder for..... Auto-body sheet metal replacement, & nothing else! I see a performance drop just using a 25' cord when I have to, & try to avoid it if vehicle is able to be moved once started project. I have around 250' of extension cord for my 220 volt MIG, yes 250' 1 is 85', 1 is 135' & last is 30' but never used them hooked together, usually reach with 85' or 135'. Eventually when I get truck built I will use this until I can do better. but it works & is paid for.
@retireddriver16
@retireddriver16 4 жыл бұрын
I have a Hobart 190 running.035 wire no preheat needed on 1/4 inches material
@beaverdam3252
@beaverdam3252 4 жыл бұрын
Love the videos an the advice can't wait for more of them an also I would love to see a video on the stacks you build thanks
@nickystixxx2481
@nickystixxx2481 4 жыл бұрын
Say your trying to build a door frame for a ... a door. Lol love it
@jiml9944
@jiml9944 4 жыл бұрын
Just wondering if gas welding last joint would be superior.
@tonyb3307
@tonyb3307 4 жыл бұрын
Per his recommendation at 4:25. Don't use brake cleaner to clean your surfaces before welding.
@parentsbasement7734
@parentsbasement7734 4 жыл бұрын
Doesn't it create some sorta crazy ass "can kill ya fumes" . thats a bad day at the welding table for sure
@KingcoleIIV
@KingcoleIIV 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah man definitely Use only acetone for cleaning metal. It evaporates very quickly and leaves no residue. Ive read about people welding 4 in beads over material that was cleaned with brake cleaner and they dropped dead after 4 in of welding.
@melgross
@melgross 4 жыл бұрын
Most brake cleaner contains chlorine. Heat it with a welding plasma, and you get poison gas.
@SegoMan
@SegoMan 4 жыл бұрын
0:46 stress's a good ground then puts the grounded side of the clamp to the dirty side of the table..
@amundsen575
@amundsen575 4 жыл бұрын
do not use chlorinated brake cleaner, use acetone
@QuesWorld_23
@QuesWorld_23 3 жыл бұрын
I need to learn the tape measure
@stevezwemer1262
@stevezwemer1262 4 жыл бұрын
Great welding tips. Appreciate!
@marksearcy9708
@marksearcy9708 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@kieren7763
@kieren7763 4 жыл бұрын
I ran out of wire on a job one day had some thin wire in the truck thought I would try that but it blew out constantly and burnt back into the nozzle wrecked a couple of contact tips and ruined my day lol it was a 15kg roll and I threw it in the bin when I got home and never used it again. luckily here in Australia the standard outlet is 240v can run a 200 amp machine from standard plug
@jeremyhanna3852
@jeremyhanna3852 4 жыл бұрын
I like the belt sander on the table once and flat
@Bram_Sheehan
@Bram_Sheehan 4 жыл бұрын
How about creating a bevel for the weld to sit in then you can run multiple stringers in one area to create a stronger tinsel strength. 110 can make a strong weld in a pinch but 220 will always come out on top.
@RRaider
@RRaider 4 жыл бұрын
Number 6, welding in cutt-off shorts that are frayed at the bottom (welding in shorts period).
@jeremyhanna3852
@jeremyhanna3852 3 жыл бұрын
So from the thumb nail pic i did something similar i chopped a 1950 and had shorten the the roof im a big man 6'10 400lbs i had to put a seam from b pillar to b pillar across the roof I can't touch the roof put need to tack it and weld it out so my brother hung me from the engine hoist in a rig we built from a welding blanket so I could tig the roof seam with out laying on the roof
@RatKingMoto
@RatKingMoto 4 жыл бұрын
Yo what welding gloves are those? They look awesome! I remember seeing them on the show and thinking they were awesome, but I could never find anything quite like them
@joshjorgensen1032
@joshjorgensen1032 4 жыл бұрын
I think he made them from a old pair of boots
@philsmith5829
@philsmith5829 4 жыл бұрын
Thats what i thought too , looked like old boots but i think its just marker!
@gonzasteve
@gonzasteve 4 жыл бұрын
Where did you buy those welding gloves
@WelderUpVegas
@WelderUpVegas 4 жыл бұрын
Some are custom make. Others are any kind of welding glove.
@SWAMPDONKEY662
@SWAMPDONKEY662 4 жыл бұрын
Knarly little 110 buddy. 🤙
@slamboy66
@slamboy66 4 жыл бұрын
OMG where did you get the cowboy boot gloves? I love them.
@codyrobinson157
@codyrobinson157 4 жыл бұрын
Same!!
@jakebauer08
@jakebauer08 4 жыл бұрын
I need to know this as well
@AcesUpOffroad
@AcesUpOffroad 4 жыл бұрын
He made them, cut boots in half, cut gloves in half, then sewed them together
@WoodworkingWarrior
@WoodworkingWarrior 4 жыл бұрын
Please dont use brake cleaner to clean surfaces to be welded. Certain brake cleaners when heated by welding will release a gas vapor that is highly fatal when breathed in. Best to just avoid all brake cleaner to stay safe.
@trevorwells7951
@trevorwells7951 4 жыл бұрын
How you make your gloves?
@iceblue72wot
@iceblue72wot 4 жыл бұрын
ESAB Rebel Swedish welder 🤘🤘🤘
@mikemasheris9814
@mikemasheris9814 4 жыл бұрын
Use an 11R viseclamp clamp and twist then put ground clamp on viceclamp
@alfbittner6489
@alfbittner6489 4 жыл бұрын
Dingleberry that was pop's favorite
@brushylocal2701
@brushylocal2701 4 жыл бұрын
I been welding for 25 yrs and still watched this. Hahaha. Dude ain’t wrong though.
@Savage-on1pc
@Savage-on1pc 4 жыл бұрын
Wear safety grasses while grinding 3:57
@walter2670
@walter2670 4 жыл бұрын
What are the dimensions of that table? LxWxH
@michellesanchez7689
@michellesanchez7689 3 жыл бұрын
Where did you get those gloves!? ♥️
@WelderUpVegas
@WelderUpVegas 3 жыл бұрын
The gloves were hand made and given to me as a gift. Thanks for watching
@TheSassygrasshopper
@TheSassygrasshopper 4 жыл бұрын
Another thing that helps make sure you dont have gap and your stuff stays square, that he didn't do is tack both sides on let's say the square tubing because when you weld out one side and dont have a tack on the backside, when the weld cools the steel shrinks and opens up the back side. Keep making awesome sh#+ guys I've been watching your stuff for years keep the vids coming!
@AtomicFacePunch
@AtomicFacePunch 4 жыл бұрын
You should try out a Multiplaz!
@martynferguson633
@martynferguson633 4 жыл бұрын
LeeLoo used a multiplaz in The Fifth Element
@jessestidam6676
@jessestidam6676 4 жыл бұрын
Why is there not any guards on either one of your grinders? I’ve grinded my skin off my finger several times with missing guards.
@TB-sw1tf
@TB-sw1tf 4 жыл бұрын
Well, don't be an idiot and then you might not have that problem. Cheers!
@marksomerville1275
@marksomerville1275 4 жыл бұрын
More of these please Steve... your duck shit welds look like my good welds. Never seen the preheat, great tip for us home shed blokes. Cheers from Australia.
@metalbill2007
@metalbill2007 4 жыл бұрын
4:52 He said SPLATTER, lol
@craigschenk729
@craigschenk729 4 жыл бұрын
Welding 101..., Remove the dingleberries! Steve keeping it real.....
@carof08
@carof08 3 жыл бұрын
Really anything 1/4 inch and above don't use short circuit mig really you need to change processes like same (stick) or switch to a spray transfer which does require different gas and a substantial size machine with good duty cycles dual shield flux core is also va very great option
@johnwoodworth248
@johnwoodworth248 4 жыл бұрын
Nice 67 coronet in the background
@brandongamet8371
@brandongamet8371 4 жыл бұрын
Whistlin diesel did a great lesson on laying dimes
@falconater68
@falconater68 4 жыл бұрын
Good for you. Dudes a damn spoiled idiot.
@JMKady76
@JMKady76 4 жыл бұрын
What? Have daddy pay someone else to do it?
@mattglandorf9077
@mattglandorf9077 4 жыл бұрын
I feel Like #3 was cut short
@simonhenriksen3924
@simonhenriksen3924 4 жыл бұрын
I just buff my table with weldspray an do it with a posisher nothing stick after
@brushylocal2701
@brushylocal2701 4 жыл бұрын
Where you get those gloves?
@WelderUpVegas
@WelderUpVegas 4 жыл бұрын
They were given to me as a gift. Really don't know the maker. Nicest gloves I've had. Thanks for watching
@brushylocal2701
@brushylocal2701 4 жыл бұрын
WelderUp do they have boot tops for the cuff? My pipeline bro’s would eat that shit up.
@blueemu9725
@blueemu9725 4 жыл бұрын
Nice shorts.
@MrStrollerisme
@MrStrollerisme 4 жыл бұрын
I can't weld to save my life and I have 3. But if comes to grabbing the torch I'd just use that on thicker stuff, which I can do. I wish this was on sheet metal. Your crappy welds look better than my best.
@codyswilley
@codyswilley 4 жыл бұрын
That piece warped because you didn't tack it on all sides. Lmfao
@Trump985
@Trump985 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree about 110v welders and having to preheat. You need to bevel it and run multiple pass welds. Mig is the wrong process for thicker materials unless you are running spray. Do the root with 6010 and the hot passes with 7018. We regularly weld 1 in plate with 1/8 7018 running 110-125 amps. We do not preheat anything, granted it’s time consuming on a 110v machine as your duty cycle is not going to be good at 110 amps. But there is no reason you can’t weld something with a 110 welder because it’s to thick.
@angeldiaz-gv8uk
@angeldiaz-gv8uk 4 жыл бұрын
You should patent the boots you wear with the holes
@etcflyers3760
@etcflyers3760 4 жыл бұрын
If you paint the table silver with aluminium paint that bead splatter will not stick and the table will stay flat and clear.
@hectorcalderon3011
@hectorcalderon3011 4 жыл бұрын
The first thing you set about welding your ground to the workpiece another solution is always keep some small plates clip on the plate and then weld a plate to Whatever item you work in that way you're ground stays clean I'm not trying to critique you I'm just giving you a suggestion
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