installing a set of wheel arch repair panels on a 2010 GMC truck, from start to completed job
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@richardangioletti5318 Жыл бұрын
Great job. I do 2 or 3 of these a year and you make it look easy.
@Johnnymidnight Жыл бұрын
The magic of editing 😁😁
@tjhman11 Жыл бұрын
looks amazing need that done on my 09
@scottyoung1161 Жыл бұрын
Great video and well presented.
@jraposo9112 жыл бұрын
great video , now i can tackle this job on my 2000 sierra
@jonathanyates51982 жыл бұрын
Lap weld it and tap the seam down for a stronger longer lasting repair
@Deleteguest2 жыл бұрын
Yea, I was just going to tell him the same thing. Johnathan is right. Butt welding the entire patch panel and then grinding down the welds harms the structural integrity of the repair. It's going to be infinitely more durable if you: -Lap weld it - Grind the welds down a bit - Then hammer the welds down - After denting the welds, put filler over the welds so that way it will come out leveled with the rest of the panel when you prime and paint it
@matthewjensen95502 жыл бұрын
Man, I wish I was closer to you. You do really nice work
@ericrennie72619 ай бұрын
Great video's. We both have the same Miller welder. Can I ask what setup do you find optimal for wire size, speed and heat? Thanks !
@Johnnymidnight9 ай бұрын
I use .023 wire, and usually have it set about 7 on both speed and voltage for sheet metal
@Inflec9 күн бұрын
We need you in Western New York. You'd find real challenging work here. Over here that truck would be be considered just broken in. A typical truck over here would have most of the entire wheel arch just gone along with most of the wheel well.
@Johnnymidnight9 күн бұрын
I imagine with the ocean there you guys get the rust worse than us!
@Inflec9 күн бұрын
@@Johnnymidnight - Ocean? I am referring to Western New York _Satar._ I.E. Buffalo and thereabouts. We love next to Lake Erie and Lake Ontario. Though we do have an ocean of sorts: an ocean of salt that our vehicles must contend with up to five months out of the year.
@alexgelhorn42773 ай бұрын
If you cut through both at the same time, would you now have a 1/16 gap?
@Johnnymidnight3 ай бұрын
Yes, it’s ok to have the slight gap to fill with the wire feed
@muskymadness927 Жыл бұрын
Great work, wish I had the tools available to do this myself. Although I’m sure it wouldn’t look as great as yours it would look better than it does with the rust
@drweld50374 ай бұрын
What would something like this cost me ?
@Johnnymidnight4 ай бұрын
They’re typically around $1000 a side (Canadian), around $1500 a side when replacing the outer wheelhouses
@switchback167 Жыл бұрын
Nice job man thanks
@Johnnymidnight Жыл бұрын
Thanks, hope it helps👍🏼
@frankt69062 ай бұрын
Thanks very inspirational
@richardbillings85176 ай бұрын
Great work.
@johnduncan70395 ай бұрын
Great work
@stevemaclean20097 ай бұрын
John, how much time does it take you to do the wheel arches per side? I need to do mine on my 2012 F150. Need to do the cab corners and rockers as well but I am going to start with the wheel arches. If that goes well I'll then tackle the rockers. Have to finish restoring my old studebaker first so I have some room in garage.
@Johnnymidnight7 ай бұрын
I usually bill 8 hours a side, plus paint time for wheel arches
@stevemaclean20097 ай бұрын
Thanks John, Based on that I think I'll tackle one side per weekend. Looking forward to the next video today! Also I am enjoying watching you do the metal work on the delivery sedan.
@Johnnymidnight7 ай бұрын
Awesome, that, glad you are liking the videos!
@Noname23489 Жыл бұрын
What do you charge a customer for this job?
@Johnnymidnight Жыл бұрын
Typically to weld in wheel arches/paint bedsides runs around $1000 a side
@jskrillzzz6 ай бұрын
Where can i get those panels?
@Johnnymidnight6 ай бұрын
Usually any auto parts store can get them
@joryhagen9287 Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Where are you located? How much would you charge typically for both sides?
@Johnnymidnight Жыл бұрын
In Quesnel BC, these are usually 12-1500 per side, depending on if the inner wheel houses require replacement
@bradcoulson94945 ай бұрын
It’s hard to see on a black truck
@zacharyodonoghue4358 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. Helped me out tremendously. What would you do if you had to cut/weld closer to the gas tank lid?
@Johnnymidnight Жыл бұрын
I would usually just take extra precautions, lots of tape & cardboard, or welding blankets if there are concerns with fuel vapours
@zacharyodonoghue4358 Жыл бұрын
Ok thank you. What did you treat the back of the panel with?
@Johnnymidnight Жыл бұрын
I use aerosol undercoat where I can reach, and then I have an old undercoating gun that I fill with used motor oil and soak the inside of the panels so that it gets right into the pinch welds, and anywhere that I can’t reach with the undercoating
@raylajeunesse94899 ай бұрын
What do you charge for this repair
@Johnnymidnight9 ай бұрын
An outer wheel arch , done and painted is typically around 1000 a side
@ericrennie72619 ай бұрын
Thanks I’ll try that. I keep burning through the old sheet metal on my tacks. Appreciate the help
@alexgelhorn42773 ай бұрын
Turn the heat down. Can always try to find good settings on the new panel and some scrap cut from the body
@MrSprintcat Жыл бұрын
Amazing
@andrewtitus8908 Жыл бұрын
Newbie Question. What was it you welded inside the panel. I assume in the inner wheel well area there was rust to. Did you use scrap metal for that or is there a specific replacement part to order? I am ordering a replacement bed arch for my 2012 silverado, and expect the inner wheel well will have some rust, and I should be replacing that inside lip also. Also, I see alot videos where the inner foam/stuffing is removed. Is it replaced with anything? I assume not because it was the main cause of the rust to begin with. Thank you for any response!
@Johnnymidnight Жыл бұрын
On this one the inner wheel house was rusted through unexpectedly, and I just patched it up with some sheet metal. Most often I replace the wheelhouses as well . I have another video, how to replace GM truck bedsides and wheelhouses, although the earlier body style, that will show you what’s involved 👍🏼👍🏼. The foam doesn’t need to be replaced with anything.
@andrewtitus8908 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the response!@@Johnnymidnight
@garymorrison9550 Жыл бұрын
good job what do u use for sealing the back of the panel
@Johnnymidnight Жыл бұрын
I always brush coat the inside with rust paint, like POR15 or similar, and also spray the inside of the panel with oil at the end so it seeps into the pinchwelds, and inner panels
@jdepape4 ай бұрын
Man do I ever wish I seen this video a month ago . I started cutting the wheel well out of my vw rabbit pickup and I’m still trying to figure it out. You made it make sense. Thank you sir
@jasony1075 Жыл бұрын
does the foam crap comes out easy with pressure washer? I have a 13 years old truck, no signs of rust on the box, but concerned about it. what would be the other best way to remove the foam.
@Johnnymidnight Жыл бұрын
I don’t think you’ll be able to get the foam out, best thing in my opinion would be to get it clean, and once it’s dry soak it down with oil
@jasony1075 Жыл бұрын
@@Johnnymidnight thanks for the reply, looks like I'm gonna have to bring out the leaf blower 🤣 before drowning it with fluid film.
@Derek_Kryzanowski10 ай бұрын
Hey man I read a comment your in Quesnel BC. I was born and raised there and all my family still live there. Unbelievable. I'm an autobody technician aswell and I'll be tackling the same job on my Silverado. Unbelievably small world. I wanted to ask you what you used to treat the inside of the repair with? I figured I might be able to remove the light and spray cavity wax
@Johnnymidnight10 ай бұрын
I always try to brush paint the backside with POR15 or similar, as well as coating the inside with oil (I use an old undercoating gun) so it seeps into the pinchweld as well
@Derek_Kryzanowski10 ай бұрын
I'll steal that idea! Thanks for the reply! I'd love to say hi whenever I'm visiting home
@Johnnymidnight10 ай бұрын
Absolutely, I’ll put you to work 😁😁
@Derek_Kryzanowski10 ай бұрын
@@Johnnymidnight that might be fun, bet ill learn a thing or 2 😎🤘
@lilsister24 Жыл бұрын
What were your welder settings and what type/size wire did you use?
@Johnnymidnight Жыл бұрын
I set my 110 miller about 60 on heat and wire speed for sheet metal, wire is .023
@Kmt80310 ай бұрын
Awesome job! How long do those type of repairs take to do?
@Johnnymidnight10 ай бұрын
Thanks, I typically charge 8-10 hours repair +4 hours paint per side to do wheel arches
@alfonsoperez3695 Жыл бұрын
How much would something like this would cost,,
@Johnnymidnight Жыл бұрын
Typically around $1000 a side
@chuymuy89822 ай бұрын
What kind of primer is used in this video?
@Johnnymidnight2 ай бұрын
I always use PPG DP 401 epoxy, and PPG Shopline Urethane high build
@morganhay859 Жыл бұрын
Now the bed looks better then the rest of the truck 😂. Nice work
@Johnnymidnight Жыл бұрын
Nice thing about shiny new black, after you wash it a few times it all looks crappy 😂
@nitrosavy Жыл бұрын
Nice work 👍🏻
@johnrodriguez3929 Жыл бұрын
Can you do mine? 😂
@Johnnymidnight Жыл бұрын
You betcha, my wait list is long, but I’m going to fix them all eventually 😁😁
@digitalldreamer Жыл бұрын
Thank you! One of the best videos out there... Would have loved to seen you do the inner fender repair as I ahve to do mine as well. getting ready to do this exact job on both sides of my silverado. Thank you again for the information as very helpful! NEW SUB right here 🙂
@Johnnymidnight Жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you! Glad you found the video helpful 👊🏼
@Skizzy3506 ай бұрын
Any tips for someone that’s never done something like this before? I’m not expecting something perfect for my first time but would like to get the rust gone.
@Johnnymidnight6 ай бұрын
Overlap the new panels 1/2” or so , I wouldn’t try butt matching if just starting out. Also check out my video on gluing panels with structural adhesive, maybe that would be helpful as well 👍🏼
@swarbricke Жыл бұрын
How much did you charge for this?
@Johnnymidnight Жыл бұрын
These are typically around $1000 a side, around $1500 a side when the wheelhouses require replacement as well
@nicholasbrundy31523 ай бұрын
How much did this costs the customer?
@Johnnymidnight3 ай бұрын
Typically around 1000 a side, around 1400 a side if it requires wheelhouses
@ksduathlete Жыл бұрын
Did you weld the fabricated backside to the front?
@Johnnymidnight Жыл бұрын
Just plug welded around the lip of the wheel arches
@ksduathlete Жыл бұрын
I want to try this .. if it doesn’t come out good there’s always a fender flare to put over my crappy bodywork ! Lol
@Johnnymidnight Жыл бұрын
Yep, most trucks around here have those ugly bushwackers just to cover rust 😁
@chute2thrill12 жыл бұрын
They get to be like a flower pot on the inside don’t they
@Johnnymidnight2 жыл бұрын
They really do, and all the manufacturers seem to be the same. I believe they’re engineered to rust out in about 8-10 years to keep people buying new trucks.
@fabe202 Жыл бұрын
Great job!!
@rustystubbs2425 ай бұрын
Fenders rust out and the rocker panels under the cab rust out. I’ve washed mine out behind there at every wash job with a power washer and it still rusted out. Cheap Chinese sourced sheet metal is my theory.
@Johnnymidnight5 ай бұрын
They’re all engineered to fail at around 10 years old, otherwise they wouldn’t sell new trucks
@dapetik6 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@Johnnymidnight6 күн бұрын
👊🏼
@averybilly8391 Жыл бұрын
What would it cost to do rockers, cab corners and a rear arch?
@Sugarkryptonite Жыл бұрын
Nice vid, thanks for it.
@Johnnymidnight Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful 👍🏼
@Sugarkryptonite Жыл бұрын
@@Johnnymidnight Any vids you can make on rust repair are helpful. I am also in the rust belt and do the work myself but like to see tricks other people use! Thanks again
@davidduffy2046 Жыл бұрын
Low light and black paint are not a good combo
@darrelkinney98562 ай бұрын
Cool video nice work nicely explained .
@Johnnymidnight2 ай бұрын
Thank you 👍🏼
@thomasfx31902 жыл бұрын
Great video! I’ve always wanted to see auto sheet metal being butt welded, but I wanted to ask: how do you attach the fender liner to the patch panel? Is there a way to keep it from happening again, would drains in the inner panel help or hurt?
@Johnnymidnight2 жыл бұрын
The wheelhouses weld around the lip of the panels, I always treat the inside of the panels with oil, to coat the exposed welds, and always recommend to pull the taillights once a year and pressure wash all the accumulated dirt from inside the panels 👍🏼
@briizcustoms9543 Жыл бұрын
@@JohnnymidnightWhat kind of oil?
@Johnnymidnight Жыл бұрын
@@briizcustoms9543 I just use used motor oil in an old undercoating gun
@seanhoude7 ай бұрын
Gorgeous! Nice work.
@Johnnymidnight7 ай бұрын
Thank you very much!
@dougkershaw2844 Жыл бұрын
never understood doing all that work for a dam patch why not put a new bedsides on all that welding you d does nothing but burn off the e coat on the back side put on a new bedside then you know what you have
@Johnnymidnight Жыл бұрын
Usually comes down to budget , I do full bedsides all the time too, and it’s about the same labor wise, but roughly double the cost. (Depending on the truck, 800-2200 per bedside vs 200-400 per patch panel, that’s just parts)I always coat the inside of the panel to seal up all of the exposed welds.
@dougkershaw2844 Жыл бұрын
@@Johnnymidnight i have had body shop for 52 years yea i know customers dont want to spend the extra money but i do not do any patch work anymore i try to tell them it could start rusting outside of the repair area in a few months and it will but they keep going back to the cost difference i say new bedsides or go somewhere else lost of couple of friends because a couple years later it started rusting 8 to 10 inches past the patch to me it is not worth it
@Johnnymidnight Жыл бұрын
I always give customers the option, if they’re just wanting another 5-6 years out of an old truck, patch panels are ok, but I always say if they’re keeping it forever to do full bedsides. The Dodge stuff is rarely worth patching though, because they rust through in several spots…..
@dougkershaw2844 Жыл бұрын
@@Johnnymidnight this shit that we do is hard work how about the cost of materials its crazy i remember back when i started i had a pretty big shop had seven full time body men during the day and two full time painters that worked all night we were open 24 hour a day i remember buying body filler buy the case it was 24 dollars a case
@Johnnymidnight Жыл бұрын
Yep, and I swear everything has doubled in the last year or two
@isaactaylor18332 жыл бұрын
Nice work man! How much was this to get done
@Johnnymidnight2 жыл бұрын
In this case it was a complete paint on this truck, but to do just the box, body and paint, would be around $1000 a side