Adagio is funny cause it'll lower your TTK to .60s on targets at/below T9 resilience but increase it to 1.20s if they have T10
@caleb59253 ай бұрын
So its a trade off to fuck hunters but also getting fucked by titans.
@Mori_AU3 ай бұрын
@@Abar31I’m curious why you think 115+115=231
@KindDmoN3 ай бұрын
@@Mori_AU pretty sure bungie raised guardian health to 240
@Mona-.-3 ай бұрын
@@KindDmoNno it’s 231
@andrewlance54713 ай бұрын
@@Mori_AUbecause the game rounds weirdly. 115 is actually 115.something
@Cerberus11413 ай бұрын
Day 16: When Cerberus +1?
@alucard147633 ай бұрын
Never
@Cerberus11413 ай бұрын
@@alucard14763 it is happening
@clarkfuckerberg84983 ай бұрын
Say
@clarkfuckerberg84983 ай бұрын
Never
@MtarX_Legends3 ай бұрын
@@alucard14763 catalyst got reworked
@zort3xx3 ай бұрын
i think the gun isn’t bad, just not as good as igneous or steady hand. i wish they brought steady hand with slideshot back in the legacy pool.
@omarm45653 ай бұрын
I have a steady hand with slideshot, swashbuckler and a range masterwork. Is that good?
@SayWallahBruh3 ай бұрын
Thing is I would use this over steadhand because of the 2H1B kills. But in terms of stats it’s not anywhere close
@Hazelomg3 ай бұрын
@@omarm4565 yes
@li6htw4y463 ай бұрын
@@omarm4565iron grip would be better as opposed to swash but its still good
@Kait07_3 ай бұрын
@@omarm4565 if you are new yes. if not, no
@Zahigggy3 ай бұрын
When solstice comes around they updated Soemthing news perk pool. It also gets enhanced PI with combos like snap, ele cap and rapid hit
@greyklopstock7155Ай бұрын
Rapid hit is gonna be MASSIVE. Especially with enhanced stuff. Honestly, on a 120 enhanced precision instrument is basically useless. Doesn't ramp up faster, won't change ttk, no extra stats. People clown rapid hit on 140s, but on 120s I feel like it is borderline best in slot if not straight up the best in slot. Other than the fire rate, the worst stats on 120s are stability and reload. Getting to add both with one perk for doing literally what you should be already, which is hitting shots, is straight up games changing for aggressives. Once I knew that was going to be on the table for the reprisal of Something New, I completely lost interest in Crimils. Cause while the model looks cooler imo, it handles like drinking concrete through a paper straw. Also, it isn't lost on me that with the compass rose coming back with enhanced opening shot and enhanced threat detector, people are legit going to be running two solstice weapons in their kinetic and energy slots. Like, not since the release of grasp do I feel like one activity would reward you with a high end PvP primary and secondary. Hopefully they'll drop with double perk drops so we can farm them easier, too
@RemedyPlays3 ай бұрын
"I shouldnt challenge this but im going to because im a dumbass" 🤣🤣 literally made me laugh out loud
@Alostwanderer883 ай бұрын
Gen z 'humor' reaction moment.
@thenexus73433 ай бұрын
@@Alostwanderer88yeah, humor before then was filled witg sexist, racist homophobic jokes.
@MrTavrosNitram3 ай бұрын
@@thenexus7343 or the endless sea of boomers hating their wives
@Alex-xi4bg3 ай бұрын
@@thenexus7343they’re all jokes none of them are any of those things lmfao
@RemedyPlays3 ай бұрын
@@Alostwanderer88 im 100% not gen z. im a millennial.
@HumbleBrownBoi3 ай бұрын
Look at wallah man 🧍♂️ so inspirational
@korbinstrong3013 ай бұрын
You only used slidways 10% of the time
@dj_mcfuggernugs5073 ай бұрын
Crimil's sounds like a bass boosted potato chip crunch
@xanaxicxo61253 ай бұрын
“I cannot aim this thing, at all” *doesn’t miss a shot*
@MakeFutebolGreatAgain3 ай бұрын
THIS HITS LIKE A TRUCK. UNIQUE WEAPON. FINALLY THEY HAD THE BALLS TO BRING IT BACK
@learnhowtoadapt3 ай бұрын
Wait till wallah sees the new Something New that gets elicap and precision instrument and hss nadir focus 😂
@critical38083 ай бұрын
you should try my slideways zen moment stability god roll with 70 range it actually feels crazy
@Arshay3 ай бұрын
Its great - those 2 perks cover each other fantastically
@imkyro31203 ай бұрын
imo it’s one of the worst feeling HC’s in the game
@l3ftie5783 ай бұрын
Which HCs feel the best for you, just curious because I agree
@imkyro31203 ай бұрын
@@l3ftie578 iggy, rose, spare, dire. Even pure poetry from vanguard is the same model as crimils dagger and it feels miles better.
@pch13703 ай бұрын
Can't be worse than Warden's Law.
@Zevox1443 ай бұрын
@@pch1370 Double fires are fine, technically kill faster than 120's
@abdalrhman79982 ай бұрын
@@Zevox144 u just need to somehow get the 2 shots lmao even without getting flinched its hard but with even a small flinch u wont get any headshot and 120s ttk isn't what makes them good even 180s have the same ttk as 120s with more forgiveness but their nowhere the level of 120s
@pizza-for-mountains3 ай бұрын
i know i'm one of five people on earth who cares about this but FIRST HÄKKE HAND CANNON IN 5000 BILLION YEARS!!! YAAAY YAAY YAY YAY YAY YIPPEE
@dave7474Күн бұрын
it lets you 2 shot holograms and 3 shot barricades. super super nice
@CleopatraKing3 ай бұрын
I also find the new arc super the most annoying super, both to use and to be used on. Its projectile is surprisingly big and it feels like it gets caught on random geometry more than tether.
@Red7903 ай бұрын
they threw putting slideways on this gun instead of slideshot
@scottparrott56743 ай бұрын
Gun feels like trash to me. Would never use it competitively over igneous or steady hand but alright to mess around. Claws of the wolf is sweet though and in energy slot to pair with conditional.
@mattmorrow69153 ай бұрын
It is a strait beast I have an arrowhead break accurized rounds moving target and precision instrument enhanced. So good
@intoxicviii3 ай бұрын
Personally this 120 isnt my favorite from all 120s.
@texmechanica34053 ай бұрын
We have a 120 with precision instrument but it’s a scout (the prophet)
@ChickenJoe2.53 ай бұрын
The seasonal one has PI too i forget what its called
@crayoneater60343 ай бұрын
We have a 120 with PI, it's Igneous
@inphact2 ай бұрын
Igneous Hammer hello??? Wallah even uses one so a major brain fart there
@stormvalentine26423 ай бұрын
If you time it right you can throw a suppressor made at the floor and when the super lands it'll take them out, I did it once successfully, was just trying to kill him, but I survived
@atlasfx693 ай бұрын
One of my fav 120s so far. Slideways is nice ngl and if u rock steady rounds the stab gets fucking insane when u proc enhanced slideways
@ghosthouse66723 ай бұрын
Shoulda been steady hand
@cozyluis3 ай бұрын
Either im ass or this guns recoil is dumb
@SayWallahBruh3 ай бұрын
It’s the gun don’t worry
@nathanflinchum11533 ай бұрын
Its both for me 💀
@יונתןשגב-נ4ל3 ай бұрын
it also has Skulking wolf, which is an insane PVP origin trait
@arcanist63 ай бұрын
i cant handle anything other than a 140 because its either too slow for me or too fast and i end up timing my shots wrong. but then luna's was brought back and now i never want to take it off... A genuine skill issue...
@CollaateraL3 ай бұрын
Honestly PI makes it A TIER imo. The forgiveness is HUGE
@WindOfHelheim3 ай бұрын
Day 136: Use rain of fire boots and float with sweet business
@_rapture_80683 ай бұрын
dude yapping and dropping a sum of all tears like every game
@peteronji3 ай бұрын
do you play mnk or controller? would you say stab is less a concern on kbm?
@zaccarman66833 ай бұрын
It's a hakke hand cannon sooo no. Never has there been a good hakke hand cannon. Clunkiest guns in the game.
@EreptileDysfunction3 ай бұрын
That’s personal preference
@nomadasol82473 ай бұрын
How is slideways better than moving target?
@ethant627021 күн бұрын
Stability
@greyklopstock71553 ай бұрын
I don't understand the obsession with slideways and slideshot when moving target exists. Like, it's free aim assist and strafe speed. All the time. I mean, I guess on a 120 reloading a bullet can be big, but idk I just feel like moving target has to be in the conversation.
@nocturne40513 ай бұрын
I like the gun cus it looks cool even if the stats is mid
@ItwordChannel3 ай бұрын
It has Adajio instead of Precision Instrument so it can two tap from 1 to 9 resilience players :/
@tbducky41363 ай бұрын
I think the orginal role with kill clips in my vault somewhere lol
@totalyahuman10063 ай бұрын
“This is the first 120 hand cannon with precision instrument” yo dawgass forgot about igneous hammer Bro doubled back to correct himself
@peterterpstra47373 ай бұрын
I wish they brought back steadyhand
@seb55423 ай бұрын
Idk, with iron grip its barely any better than a new god rolled Crimil's stat wise and it's definitely not any better than Igneous. Although that's in the energy slot. It's only when you factor in slideshot that Steady Hand is better, and that's only active for one shot.
@abdalrhman79982 ай бұрын
@@seb5542 if steady hand came back it would've came back with new perks like crimils and PI would be in it since the game now knows that 120s need that perk after the HC changes also slideshot is the best hand canon perk it doesn't have a down time like opening shot or slideways and it keeps the buff while your sliding so u can get all 3 shots with the buff while using a 140 and probably 2 with a 120 and it would've made steady hands a contender to iggy since slideshot and PI are an insane combo especially for a 120
@seb55422 ай бұрын
@@abdalrhman7998 you have a fundamental misunderstanding of how slideshot works. It grants 20 range and 20 stability on the next shot within 2.5 seconds after activation. It only affects the first shot after activation, none of the following shots are affected unless you reactivate it. Also the reason why steady hand is so good is because of iron grip and slideshot *in combination* . Take away one of those perks and it's then just a very average 120 hand cannon. It wouldn't compete with Igneous without those two perks. Yes PI gives forgiveness if you can't land crits which is appealing on this archetype. But you're then giving up the whole reason why you'd use that particular gun in the first place. You only use it for that stat package provided to you by those two perks. Because the base stats are very mediocre without iron grip and don't stand out at all. The 3rd column could be swapped out for zen or quickdraw, but range is more important to a lot of people so slideshot is the most popular pick. Slideshot didn't become more popular because of hand cannon changes, it was because of the zoom changes that it rose in popularity and effectiveness.
@steakyb89383 ай бұрын
was looking forward to iron banner for about 2 weeks straight its finally here and every single weapon in iron banner is hard eclipsed by better guns from previous activities... why even play iron banner at this point
@SuPeRuNkNoWn..3 ай бұрын
Fullbore, Accu, Mov T, Zen, Range MW. Evil.
@johnh59093 ай бұрын
Hunter ophidian cloak and this is goated
@gentlemanscarecrow59873 ай бұрын
What roll you running on that crafted Techeun Force?
@cudi_kun98883 ай бұрын
iggy has pi?? doesnt it?! it being the first 120 with it
@RexGrimm3 ай бұрын
Ik it's prob just skill issue but I just can't seem to get the hang of this gun, kicks like a horse and playing on roller makes it rough lmao
@michaelhunt15733 ай бұрын
Been waiting for this video, thanks Wallah!
@WretchLover3 ай бұрын
You need to do a video on the new iron banner pulse. It's an actual laser and feels like I'm cheating with how easy it is to kill people with it
@VendettaPSC3 ай бұрын
Did bungo finally unlock your heavy slot so you can use something other than sword!? BLESS BUNGO :P Also that fuckin' movement at kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2KpgZ-bi5Vql5o was unreal.
@readyforlol3 ай бұрын
Pro-tip : you don’t have tocpaste a whole link for timecode, you can just type 6:18 and it becomes clickable automatically.
@dave74743 ай бұрын
Eager edge is bugged so theres no point in using it rn
@VendettaPSC3 ай бұрын
@@readyforlol Yeah I tried that and it did t work so I did it the old way. Knowing I'd have to read this comment later. 😂 Thanks man.
@KingBonnett3 ай бұрын
I love this gun, it's so bad but it has my heart. It's uniquely shite.
@destinynessus3 ай бұрын
Im waiting for elden ring wallah :>
@Djerunk3 ай бұрын
I usually don't care for arguments for weapon supremacy in certain archetypes, but with 120's Igneous Hammer is such an absurd outlier for both stats and perks that i really feel bungie needs to address the discrepancy there. It really just feels like i shouldn't use any other 120 except Igneous.
@Arshay3 ай бұрын
I have to say something that I discovered using a roll of this with Zen Moment+Slideways: That perk combo is absolutely insane. You need to try it. Its my favorite now on a 120. And you will see exactly what I mean if you get this roll. They compliment each other perfectly.
@JosiahKaulia3 ай бұрын
7:10 Bro just got executed😂
@calebbrill92843 ай бұрын
Cammy cakes gonna have a field day with this
@ChickenJoe2.53 ай бұрын
U could give cammy a rock and he would find a way to enjoy himself
@philmcrack30383 ай бұрын
please dont manually reload the gun when you have free bonus handling and stability and partial reload jus by sliding 🙏🏼🙏🏼it was irkin my soul like parasites the whole video, lmao w video tho luhya wallah
@Frosty_04152 ай бұрын
i got mine enhanced with flutted, accurized, stability master, moving target and precision instrument and it feels quite nice. slightly jarring experience compared to the buttery smooth igneous but it’s not bad, i enjoy this gun a lot
@m4j0r3x3 ай бұрын
Slide way and adagio goes hard on this thing, 2 taps for res 9 and below and just slide to get a kill back
@Silent-sm3lq3 ай бұрын
Yeah except T10 makes the TTK longer than base when you have adagio.
@m4j0r3x3 ай бұрын
@@Silent-sm3lq yep, but at that point it would functions like the good old duke mk44( why tf they didnt bring this back into into the light)
@sushiiixo3 ай бұрын
@@Silent-sm3lqand rn everybody is got 10.
@Mona-.-3 ай бұрын
Why everyone always talk about adagio when I swear kill clip can roll on it. is it just cuz 120 reloads are mega slow?
@m4j0r3x3 ай бұрын
@@Mona-.- cus kill clip got nerfed to the ground and can no longer 2 taps
@Drapabee3 ай бұрын
One nice (but niche) thing with this handcannon is the origin trait! Skulking Wolf is actually kinda cool, giving you enhanced radar and taking you off ENEMY'S radar if you get a kill with it at low HP. You can see it proc pretty often in this video by checking Wallah's radar; when the perk is up you can see the enhanced radar with the smaller directional indicators. It's certainly not the strongest origin trait in the game, but definitely not the weakest! Going off radar is really powerful if you have the presence of mind to realize you've activated it, and being at low HP is often the time when you don't want people to know where you are. You can definitely surprise people trying to third party a gunfight you've just won by running up on them while they have no clue you're there.
@illusiveelk25583 ай бұрын
Try it with Adagio. Two taps for days. I got one with fluted, accurized, moving target, adagio, and handling masterwork. Feels awesome.
@thenexus73433 ай бұрын
Stats arent everything and the gun can still hit 39 meters. I think it just needs stability.
@matthewgrode92043 ай бұрын
I wanted to like this thing, but I literally can’t land my shots with it to save my life
@Creature-ology2 ай бұрын
I wonder if it’s deterministic recoil is like iggy’s, where 100 is best.
@bioluminescence23913 ай бұрын
I’ve got an old roll on a crimils with kill clip and snapshot, pretty sure it’s the only 120 in the game now with kill clip.
@ldysman4203 ай бұрын
Out all the 120s it has the worse aim down sights it's recoil is bonkers
@hrachyaiskandaryan60743 ай бұрын
This weapon aint even that great but I love it, I had the sunset one and just because I love using it I play better with this than some meta hand cannons, its something special.
@natejohnson10833 ай бұрын
2:26 me when i gotta itch
@JH-vb1wo16 күн бұрын
Actually love this hand cannon. I have trouble with many hand cannons cuz it’s hard for me to shoot n fire and get headshots but this thing I can destroy people with and I got moving target zen moment which really makes the gun stick and less flinch and it’s definitely a hand cannon I’ll be using often. I also would like to get a good slideways or moving target precision instrument roll
@XxVoidXx40023 ай бұрын
What happened to the guy that normally asks for the golden eagle 1v1?
@BrandonLebreton-hr3nl3 ай бұрын
“It would be mid without pre vision instrument”, so it’s mid 😂
@thestranger35303 ай бұрын
Almost seemed like you almost cracked up and lost it when saying “ go play some Iron Banner “. Lol
@WAHRGOHLBRAHGOHL3 ай бұрын
Day 1: Monte Carlo with Triton Vice and a glaive on Strand
@yoboyreece3 ай бұрын
It's on a 120 but not a hand cannon
@yoboyreece3 ай бұрын
It's on a scout
@Hazelomg3 ай бұрын
they really should have given this thing slide shot, perks feel meh tbh
@MrKritica12 ай бұрын
Enlightened action is the better of the third column perks.
@oddloopnotoddloop3 ай бұрын
i like this hand cannon a lot- its finally replaced my true prophecy (maybe) the loader/dex mods in question:
@stogieee9082 ай бұрын
Enlightened Action/Precision Instrument is pretty decent
@gamingandgardening77293 ай бұрын
Bruh why no one wants adagio
@SayWallahBruh3 ай бұрын
Adagio for 2 taps is cool but PI is king on 120’s
@GmodExploratory3 ай бұрын
First
@murcee62913 ай бұрын
I was actually here hoping for sone fusion rifle gameplay. wallahL
@salolimearbuz96163 ай бұрын
we have sturm,so why even bother to grind this thing
@NobleWish3 ай бұрын
I got an Enlightened Action, PI roll, range mw, steady rounds. feels good on controller imo
@TheTrialsSweatsAreInMyGame3 ай бұрын
120s are VERY sticky on controller
@ghosthouse66723 ай бұрын
I got the same roll it’s fucking awesome
@voltrixgames43753 ай бұрын
Get one with adagio, adagio with one single kinetic surge together you will two tap a lot of people lmao
@JohnB3Tweekin3 ай бұрын
Idc crimils reminds me of the lingering song, love IB handcanons
@JAK_Manufacuring3 ай бұрын
Why don't u try other games,im just curious also i got 0 secs on noti
@arjunbaweja77553 ай бұрын
A destiny channel playing destiny is crazy. Maybe one day he will diverge but not now
@kannaharuka3 ай бұрын
i got a better devils with gutshot and slickdraw and it feels so bad i love it
@jonathancotter74293 ай бұрын
i got a moving target adagio i want to mess around with. d2 foundry is saying it's a 2tap to t9 and down.
@SuperBobby1353 ай бұрын
Good game Wallah, you just beat my butt in Iron Banner
@upnext1283 ай бұрын
Surely with max stability and precision it feels good right?
@Victorioinator3 ай бұрын
This thing is a reskinned midnight coup
@buddyboiwrath4882 ай бұрын
ignious hammer can roll precision aswell
@RuiNDieM19883 ай бұрын
It's such a pretty gun but so hard to use
@itzbaldur39353 ай бұрын
IIRC i saw in pve its like 25% to 26% from precision to enhanced precision. Dont seem all that worth imho
@Mona-.-3 ай бұрын
It increases the rate of dmg increase per stack. So instead 4%/8% its 5%/10% for the first 2 stacks
@Sudden-Death3 ай бұрын
Not a chance it’s better than igneous 🤣
@rawdney883 ай бұрын
Put ur sword back on. Silly.
@riviction63312 ай бұрын
HOW ARE YOU SO FUCKING GOOD ON MNK LOL
@BIayde3 ай бұрын
Just throw on Ophidians and it’s good
@zolly_3 ай бұрын
Hi wallah
@Adam-tu1qx3 ай бұрын
Coulda been a lot better if they put zen moment in column 3 and not 4.
@Shahmane6663 ай бұрын
Maaannnnn fuck now I gotta actually play IB to get and try this gun out😭