Well, that stinks... | 1982 Gibson "The Paul" Firebrand Deluxe Custom Shop Edition Candy Apple Red

[@Trog]

The good news is - the husk has found a home where it is going to be fixed and restored and the tuners have completed an '81 Custom! 🔴 More Parts on Reverb: reverb.com/shop/troglys?_aid=growsumo&gs_partner=Trogly 🟢My Website: www.troglysguitarshow.com 🐕 Private Help Sessions: troglysguitarshow.com/help-appraisals/

[@ousley421]

Thank you Austin, it is a CS after all and should be preserved.

[@robertdavidtingstrom118]

Too late. He ruined it by parting it out

[@corneliuscrewe8165]

@@ousley421How is gutting it and selling the parts preserving it? You seriously think this guy cares about that? He’s in it for the bucks.

[@JEG69]

You scammer lol you sold him the husk for allot more than without the expensive pickups. You kept the pickups for yourself or gonna sell it for more.

[@stevenblakeakahashburns]

What's with the flip out tuners? Never seen that before

[@buzzbabyjesus]

Don't part it out. Let it be the instrument. It sounds great.

[@corneliuscrewe8165]

Too late, he already has the hardware on Reverb. Don’t faint when you see his price for the pickups.

[@Masterfighterx]

@@corneliuscrewe8165 All the parts are insanely priced if you ask me.. Switch tip is $161,25. Bridge $250. Tailpiece $187,50. Knobs $299.

[@joermnyc]

@@Masterfighterxas he said, that harmonica bridge in gold is not something you see every day.

[@bricktop201]

@@Masterfighterx No arguments from me...

[@LeoSey]

⁠@@Masterfighterx the price for the switch tip is hilarious

[@dananthony6258]

That guitar actually sounds amazing. I so wasn’t expecting that.

[@bricktop201]

Guitar Center really ticked me off last Saturday. Went in to a local one here in California for a couple of packs of Power Slinky’s, saw a Surf Green Gretsch Double Jet on the wall. Cool, I thought, pulled it down and immediately noticed an eraser sized ding in the back of the neck, and a light crack by the nut. Whatever, I sit down and play it a bit, put it in tune, decide I really like it. At this point I notice a 1/8” x 1/2” chunk of missing finish on the face on the bass side horn and a pretty good crack along the side which must have been the impact that damaged the top. Still, whatever it plays and sounds great. I love a challenge and a tinkering project. So I put it away, and go to the counter to pay for my strings. Long story short, I asked if they would knock a few bucks off it because of the damage, they say no because that model is already on sale. Let me get this straight, you’re gonna sell a damned guitar for the same price as one not damaged , and asking for a discount for damaged goods is “double dipping “ for a discount. Their words. As of today, it’s still on the wall, still for sale for the undamaged price. Guitar Center has lost my business for good. Avoid the Chico California Guitar Center at all costs.

[@sassycat]

They could have taken a hammer to it if the insurance company agreed to pay them. But yeah, GC is a store of last resort.

[@bricktop201]

@@sassycat Agreed. It sucks, because I like the guitar itself and the model in general, and it’s a GC exclusive, but I really didn’t appreciate the insinuation I was trying to screw them over, and it really balls me some unsuspecting kid is going to end up paying full price for damaged goods. It’s not right.

[@mikes062]

@@bricktop201I think that could be the idiot salesman or manager than a company policy, the local guitar center I go to is actually pretty good about things.

[@bricktop201]

@mikes062 I thought that would be the case too, but I got the same treatment from an a-hole on their online help chat. He repeated the line about me trying to “double dip” on discounts. Royalty teed me off. I will say, I did speak to a nice gentleman on the phone, he apologized profusely and said he was sending me some strings as a bit of a recompense, but that guitar is still on the wall, still damaged, and still the same price as it’s undamaged counterparts. It’s not about me wanting the guitar now, it’s more to me the idea an unsuspecting kid is going to pay full price for it.

[@daveduffy2823]

That’s GC.

[@paulburton5150]

Ah, keep it intact. That guitar has a history and real character.

[@cdnnielsen5964]

On the original breakage: Guitar was shipped from Illinois to Oregon with a couple of wads of paper around the case in a big box. It just bounced around in there. I can confirm that is a new break.

[@PeterMoore350]

Aaaah that’s a shame. It looks like a clean break so a decent luthier should be able to sort it out. Cheers from NZ 😎🎸🤘

[@StreetPreacherr]

doesn't even look like it would require a professional luthier. Just squirt as much Titebond in that crack as possible and clamp it for a couple days, should be good as new! I actually did a home repair when my 94' LPS 'fell' off the stand and suffered a neck break, and other than a scar across the headstock veneer it's held up great for a few years already with no sign of the repair ever failing! Just sucks that the damage ruined the value, but now I at least have an excuse to never sell it!

[@PeterMoore350]

@@michaelpacinus242 Camel

[@leomilani_gtr]

12:55 wow, these are some.of the best sounding pickups I heard! Damn!

[@bricktop201]

At $1200, they better.

[@I-Libertine]

That's one of the best sounding LP's I've ever heard on your show...

[@WW-1995]

@@michaelpacinus242 These PUs surely have a really nice sounds, that's not about the playing.

[@mariodesio2436]

Having built and repaired guitars I want to suggest the problem with this guitar is the neck tenon glue joint is failing. Either not enough glue or even forgot to put glue on the bottom of the tenon or bad fit. So just injecting glue into this won't fix it. The original glue will seal the wood so new injected glue will not hold. It unfortunately needs the neck with tenon removed, glue residue cleaned out and reset properly.

[@williamhiles7404]

I agree. It's really the only way to make a sturdy long lasting repair. LedHed Pb 207.20 🎶 🎸 🎹

[@midwaymonster30]

Once that's repaired it'll be a awesome. Great looking guitar.

[@HarryRenner-h9q]

What type of glue did guitar center use on that repair? because if they used the right glue. such as hide glue or Tightbond. and if a person used spine's on it. I can guarantee it will never break again. that guitar could have been saved, that's a shame.

[@jrb8399]

I can’t believe this is getting parted out. Simple job Please reconsider!!

[@picksalot1]

Looks like a clean break, and should glue up fine. Just make sure the Neck alignment is correct. Beautiful finish and good sounding, and now it's got a story of survival to tell.

[@GaryGreene1977]

Please note, NEVER send them back to GC! While you will get the money back, they won't get them repaired. Broken instruments are destroyed, not repaired.

[@RecliningWhale]

sounds like the don't know what they're doing when it comes to shipping if it broke during shipping both times when they were the ones sending it out... Shame

[@lloydonlead]

That's a shame. I ship directly to Guitar Center and pick it up. That's in case anything might happen. I don't live very far from Guitar Center so it saves a lot of headaches. Glad you got it worked out!

[@markcheetah4960]

They have a "central" repair facility that you live near? What state is that in? Thanks

[@lloydonlead]

@@markcheetah4960 Arizona

[@jerrywalaszek2473]

Question? What is the consensus of "tune o matic" bridges or the " harmonica" type??? was thinking of changing my tune o matic to harmonica type on my LP?

[@tanczene3824]

From a technical standpoint, the harmonica is way better, it gives you a wider range of intonation possibilities, since the saddles have a lot more travel, and it's also a little more robust, so I would guess it's less prone to collapse on the long run, than a tune-o-matic. They are mounted differently though, and I'm not sure a drop in part exist that you could just swap out without permanent modifications.

[@RussBMCSGT]

I think it was some random Google search I did where there were TONS of people complaining about that extract type of break & ripping on the short neck tenon. Now, until I got onto re-issues all I ever knew was the short neck tenons & knock on wood I’ve never broken any of my 6 short tenon Les Pauls. I have 10 Les Pauls 4 of them are newer Custom Shops. I also have an SG, Explorer & V. I love & play them all!

[@monstrok]

Trogly, you mentioned that Tim Shaw P'ups are not your favorite, but what makes them so desirable on the used market?

[@Trog]

Tim Shaw Bridge pickups can be hit or miss. The neck is always quite good (imo) Get a good set like these and they are quite nice

[@jimtomatola]

Did they ship it without slacking off the strings?

[@vadenk4433]

I’ll bet that old case is the culprit. It probably fits poorly and the neck heel is resting with most of the weight on it. Otherwise the chances of it breaking twice in the same spot are astronomical. What a shame that cool guitar had to be parted out after 41 years. On another note-Those are the first gold flip out tuners I remember seeing

[@brimans3092]

Bad repair obviously..

[@Masterfighterx]

@@brimans3092 Don't know about the neckpocket, but the crack in the body that was previously repaired held up as expected, better than the wood itself.

[@stephenfoley1261]

Fenders candy apple red is so much nicer. A shade lighter that the gold base Gibson and almost a 3D effect.

[@Wargasm54]

That’s criminal to strip the thing down and part it out. Always chasing the dollars. Sometimes a guitar just needs a little TLC. This guitar looks and sounds great. Throw some glue in that crack, clamp it up and repair it. You got the thing for peanuts. Fix it, play it, love it. Don’t take away it’s identity and butcher it.

[@johnnyxmusic]

I have to agree… We keep talking about mojo mojo mojo. It’s Guitar is what it is. It has mojo. So you glue it up again? What’s wrong with that now? Of course… The question is… Could you sell it to someone in that condition with two brakes for what it’s really worth… If you consider the parts? that’s a tough question. You almost think it will be worth finding the person who’s gonna play it and love it and make the most beautiful music with it. And sell it for a reasonable price. Force is no guarantee that they’re not gonna part it out. Is it capitalism, or is it human nature? It’s just a bummer all around. I do wonder where he paid for it.

[@corneliuscrewe8165]

This guy doesn’t care about any of that. The almighty dollar rules.

[@Wargasm54]

@@johnnyxmusic he got it for about 500$

[@cloven1971]

Dude I have a lot of parts from Gibson. That would be the perfect one for me to mod and fix. Is it still available?

[@blodpudding]

I would not use that case ever. It must have an odd angle at the neck rest causing that. Because that looks like a clean break and glue just don't fail like that. Break a Gibson once, shame on you. Break a Gibson twice, shame on the case!

[@thetoneknob4493]

im cool with parting out most guitars but the rare ones are better off being left alone! i get that it needs a repair and its a simple job almost any one can do. i think parting this one is out will make you cringe years down the road. the value on rare guitars is only going one way and that's up!

[@pensive_]

Heel breaks is probably more common now like this early 80s you show, for which heel breaks were ultra rare. The headstock breaks are becoming annoyingly frequent, so heels will follow. The Moe Curly and whoever effect, cant remember the third one, oh yes it was Larry, but Larry also left for Sire I think after Curly left. So only Moe is left. The hype is way-way better now, but a Norlin Gibson in the end is better than the current Baloney that seemingly cant even stay in tune. I will stick with my old Gibsons thank you very much.

[@jessesguitars6316]

I see the parts on your Reverb page. Have you sold the body yet?

[@begelson4387]

They didn't loosen the strings before shipping it?

[@EvanPriceMusicChannel]

Such a rare number.. at least think about pricing a proper repaired before parting it out…

[@dukenukembubblegum7311]

Is the husk for sale?

[@Trog]

already gone

[@musiclovr2890]

How much would you take for it?

[@zippy2socks270]

I have one of those serial numbers , unfortunately it’s been refinished.

[@jonathanhudak2059]

I agree keep it together and get it fixed

[@jamesteddy1379]

How on earth we're you able to tune that thing up with a neck pocket break, just curious !

[@musicauthority674]

If you end up parting it out? I'm curious what You're going to do with the husk? because I can do that repair. I have done about a half dozen of them. and they turned out fantastic. and I would be willing to give updates on it's progress. that guitar sounds too good to not give it a second life it would make a great player guitar.

[@rockinrob2004]

It's already stripped & husk is sold. You should've got a hold of him.

[@musicauthority674]

@@rockinrob2004 Yeah that's pretty common with Trogly. I have went to his Reverb account and his email account. before on several occasions. to check on an item I was interested in. and it was sold even sometimes right from the episode that was airing. a person has to be pretty fast sometimes when making a deal with Austin. something else I think happens is Trogly puts the item up for sale at the time when he's making the video. and sometimes there's a gap from when he makes the video and when it airs. so the guitar he's documenting is likely already sold. to people that were shopping on reverb or at his email address. Trogly is a good businessman first and foremost. I remember he had a really nice LP supreme during an unboxing episode. and he said he was going to document it. but someone seen it on the unboxing episode and purchased it, and it wasn't documented. I sorta figured that husk was already sold. however I'm sorta curious how much it sold ? although if was a killer deal I'm going to kick myself in the ass.

[@peterpellerin1374]

i would have bought it as is...would have been nice to have choice before you parted it out.

[@stevenblakeakahashburns]

What's with the flip out tuners? Never seen that before

[@jimmyjames2022]

Sadly for this gorgeous The Paul, looks like there's no actual luthier at Guitar Centre, just guitar 'techs'. I don't buy the apology cause it's typical across industries that sales management (who brings in the cash) always underestimates what is actually needed for technical resources (who makes sure the thing works properly) and strangle the budget. Then when the obvious occurs they go: "Oh who could have expected that?". Will they send it to a proper luthier now?

[@BlockDefender]

I don't think I can order guitars online because even the possibility of opening up a case and seeing that makes me involuntary vomit blood

[@ReValveiT_01]

Gibson : "candy apple red finishes are really hard and we can't make a profit on them!" Fender : "get a feckin' grip".

[@TylerEaves]

I mean. this is the same company that's been using a defective headstock joint for 70 years. You expect them to do paint?

[@nieko3038]

My neighbour had a ‘78 the Paul. That thing sounded great. Never seen a break like that.

[@thevoxofreason8468]

Actually sounds fantastic.

[@rolandgonzales5260]

Wow, that's a shame. Normally I don't care for that style of Les Paul but that one sounded really nice.

[@balke7935]

Parting that guitar out would be a real shame… a very new clean break like that is super fixable.

[@akc5150]

Looks like whoever repaired it previously just glued the body cracks and didn't actually re-glue the neck tenon into the body mortice so when it got a slight knock the body wood just gave way. A really simple glue up job to fix. Seen the same a number of times and that's almost ALWAYS why it happens!

[@HowardBaileyMusic]

I've never seen fold out machine head winders before...so cool 🤩

[@HowardBaileyMusic]

​@@michaelpacinus242You didn't like them?

[@Thatdudeoverthere69420]

Thats been my experience ordering from GC online. They were packaged either okay or over killed but 2 drum sets, both had cracked or permanently out of round toms, an amp that was HEAVILY cracked on its casing. A couple cracked headstock epis and gretsches. I feel the shipper theyre using is purposely damaging products from GC because thats waaaaay too many products beung damaged in shipping.

[@IZE83L]

Just glue it back together ❤️

[@dananthony6258]

Every guitar should have flip out winding tuners. If I started a guitar company it would be a staple on all my models. That suck the guitar broke again.

[@driveonrockon]

I almost bought that when I saw it. Would have made a nice companion to my 84 Silver Burst The Paul. To bad she broke😢

[@caas766]

That guitar sounds fantastic!!! Maybe the best on your recent demos

[@julesbower762]

Fix it. Worth it.

[@Releasethebats123]

I’m a fan of the harmonica bridge, I want to put one on a jaguar. I had a 1973 sg that was ugly as hell but it played great and had a harmonica bridge

[@solarismoon3046]

I'd keep it as is. I'm not a Gibson fan but you could glue this with SUPER GLUE so that it will stay glued this time around. It's a really bad idea to part it out since it's all original to the guitar. Just keep it and fix it or sell it as is for whatever you bought it for minus your refund. Maybe someone will fix it and play it. If I cared at all about Gibson guitars I would buy it and fix it. I'm sure someone will want it despite its shortcomings. Tim Shaw pickups are the best in my opinion which is why I used them for years. Sadly I got rid of the ones that I had but if I ever get my hands on another I'll use it and keep it.

[@davidfurney3945]

If the husk isn’t too expensive I wouldn’t mind picking it up and resetting the neck and modding it

[@dylanzrim3635]

Surely you just fill it with glue and clamp it for a week

[@benwright6330]

The great thing about the Harmonica Bridge is if the Guitar breaks you can just play the Harmonica. 👄👁️

[@benwright6330]

..clean break, ..just glue & clamp & good as new.

[@iwaspaidtoflywithyoubatman]

RESTORE IT PLEEEAsE!!

[@bensguitarcovers2849]

I physically screamed when I saw the break 😭

[@Ericbayoufire]

You are such a fan boy but not practical that is and easy fix, it is a crime to part out.

[@jp2246]

How cool is it that Randy Leonard gets back to you on these things!

[@JokersWild70]

Since Troggs charges people for his information, Randy should be charging Troggs for his

[@jp2246]

@@JokersWild70 that's a fair comment, hopefully he takes care of people that take care of him!

[@bacongl]

Sounds damn good. Honestly i would repair it and keep it. At least you wouldn't have to worry about it too much. Some Titebond and some clamps and Bob's your uncle.

[@RedSpecialForever]

I hear I want to break free at 15:06.

[@leviathan_is_me]

Sad story, but at least it got to show the world it was tremendous before it went out. Man...that sounded beautiful... 😢

[@Gordanovich02]

I'm not in a position to take on a break, even a clean one like that, but if I was I'd be strongly inclined not to refinish it. Fit new hardware and some nice PAFs into CTS pots and orange drop caps and just have it as an unashamed player's guitar.

[@Dave062YT]

Sounds great !I'd really like to see this one fully repaired [again]

[@Trog]

we might!

[@liam4852]

That is truly heartbreaking

[@Bill628]

I would glue/clamp that sucker for 24hrs and throw parts I have laying around on it. How I get a lot my vintage stuff over the years. Time to sell, part it out again, husk life.

[@Releasethebats123]

Such an easy fix😊 Edit: even though it’s heavily played, that is a beautiful ebony fretboard. Dude you need to try out a Dunable. They’re marketed for metal players but I tune my standard and play anything but metal on it😅 I have a cyclops made in USA. I HIGHLY recommend them for any player of any style

[@PeterMoore350]

Mr Trogly I’ve paused at 14:10 to comment. That guitar sounds pretty cool clean. What amp do you always use for these playing demos ?

[@Trog]

Marshall Bluesbreaker

[@PeterMoore350]

@@Trog thx

[@ChadwickRider]

You nailed it... when repaired it's actually stronger than before repaired. This is probably just a really bad piece of mahogany.

[@JEG69]

trogly is such a scam artist lmao, he could sell it "as is" how he got it broken to a costumer but hes gonna part the guitar, sell the expensive parts separately and still charge you $$$ for the body. OR hes gonna make a new total by adding the expensive parts so hes gonna sell the broken guitar for more than what guitar center was selling it for. smh.

[@chaser9889]

I'd buy that broken beauty in an instant!

[@jbrosupra]

Thats such an easy fix to want to part out like that.

[@doctoribanez]

I thought you said you were going to part it out anyway

[@bryanr4686]

It makes me sad that it is getting parted out, that has a lot of life left.

[@bricktop201]

He’s selling the pickups for $1200. All hail the almighty dollar....

[@cheebsgod]

​@bricktop201 would you expect him to sell things for well cheaper than they are worth just for the virtue of making it less sad to other people? I know i wouldn't sell a guitar for half its value, and this guitar's value is greater as the sum of its parts. Also it'll make many people happy with their rare parts and the guitar will still get to be a player's rocker after a fun project

[@jesterjigs9914]

Get it fixed and let it be played I say

[@bunnyrabbit4972]

With the thinner body and comfort carveouts, and new location for the switch, it is like a cross between an SG and an LP.

[@acdclexu6296]

looks also a bit like the sonex artist in the color

[@wriglarzzz]

I could 100% fix that

[@Cronoxus]

Man it sounds incredible. That break is a real shame. Personally it’s probably worth gluing up

[@cameronjennings7358]

Hey man do you think you could get your hands on a Gary rossington signature Les Paul?

[@clarkbabin9799]

That's horrific to see that heel damaged. But didn't you say you must part it out? The guy who used to go as Tiki hut Guitar took an old LP that has some water damage. He ended up with the tail end losing a chunk that went into the control cavity. He cut out what was bad replaced it with more mahogany. Since it was a painted top he didn't worry about a maple cap. He slowly carved it back to close if not an actual carve swoop that matched the rest of the body. Must've taken 80 to 100 episodes to show the progress. When done you couldn't distinguish between the old to the new part .

[@williamhiles7404]

I'll take the low wide frets with a low action any day. That's all my Gibsons have ever had. I won't play another guitar that isn't a Gibson with those frets. LedHed Pb 207.20 🎶 🎸 🎹

[@Bebr-e3f]

There is something so sad about hearing a instrument play for the very last time

[@somerandomdudelonelyAF]

Very tired just got back from baseball practice but hello everyone

[@sgt.grinch3299]

Greetings Random

[@bottomkitchen250]

That's a nice looking fretboard. Can't believe how it still sounds good.

[@wayneworkman2184]

Glue it up, sounds great !

[@scharrsilicio]

Aw man, poor The Paul! 😢

[@kimr45]

Man those pick ups rock! Sounds like they want to be free.

[@erickleefeld4883]

Instead of a glue fix, would it be possible to convert a Les Paul with a heel break into a bolt-on?

[@Trog]

You could but you’d really hurt the value of the guitar even further by doing that

[@erickleefeld4883]

@@Trog I’d like to see certain modifications become more accepted for broken Gibsons. For example, the headstock snaps off? Convert it to a headless guitar!

[@eb1888.]

The black spots are called fly specking.

[@RussBMCSGT]

I’d slather some Tightbond down there, clamp it & keep it. But that’s me

[@brucemyers5463]

It sounds good. Let it live.

[@gunsofsteele]

randy schartiger, the house that never sleeps, could fix her up!

[@flyingash]

Thats a keeper tone wise!

[@samright4661]

Fix it don’t part it out

[@jonlennon3348]

Could you take a picture inside the break to see if it is really mahogany. It looks like alder??????

[@Antholography]

Had to pause the video just to comment; holy mother, that gold base coat is gorgeous. I'm in your camp. I *much* prefer that!

[@chrissavage1534]

That's a great guitar, warts and all. A keeper fo sho