Well There's Your Problem | Episode 133: Oldsmobile Diesels

[@LeafseasonMagbag]

I am looking forward to seeing why the Oldsmobile episode has a “viewer discretion” prompt

[@b.6603]

This isn't usual. Must be a good one. Nice kernelsprite by the way

[@GoredonTheDestroyer]

If I had to guess, it's because of the joking about diesel engines thirsting for their own demise, which honestly makes that even funnier when you think about it.

[@WDSimp]

@@GoredonTheDestroyer Gotta look out for any diesel engines listening to this podcast.

[@ZeRedSpy]

Or Liam really let loose a tirade

[@ryankibby2474]

cop city - talking about the guy who got shot

[@cornboicornman9767]

Glad to see KZbin officially considers this podcast self harm and is making sure to warn us.

[@lyndonwesthaven6623]

But it's completely unconcerned about my exposure to ten minutes of homophobic truck acronyms? Shame

[@ThePorpoisepower]

As long as it's still monetized???

[@huckthatdish]

@@ThePorpoisepower they don’t monetize their channel. They rely on patreon

[@pearceburns2787]

I assume there's an actual reference to this somewhere in the episode. At least the Hindenburg episode has the guy with declining eyesight.

[@brippie]

Trans women are so metal atm.

[@miikomakes8083]

I really hope the safety third person is able to take this to court cause this is so obviously and massively illegal at scale

[@5Jango5]

​@@seymoarsalvage peta would just break in and euthanize all of the cats so I wouldn't

[@Rietto]

What monster first offered this product to an animal rescue in the first place?? A sociopathic cat-hater?

[@teddydgameboysp]

yeah no holy shit the second they mentioned silicon the first words out of my mouth were "sue the fuckers that's not legal at all" it is so open and shut like god damnit america do better

[@simonro9168]

@@seymoarsalvage Peta the pet-murderers would probably love cats getting tortured.

[@kw9849]

Jesus Christ, Alice is right, they need to get to a lawyer TODAY. "You were exposed to HOW MUCH silica??"

[@FlakeSE]

"You have to be a GM Phrenologist to even tell them apart" One of the best jokes ever told on this podcast.

[@Dracowulf7]

"the child of omelas" of WYTTP is a *really* strong contender.

[@charlesklass4209]

Alice saying "This Oldsmobile has a Slavic Brain-Pan" was pretty funny too lmao

[@emilyadams3228]

BREAK OUT THE CALIPERS!!!!

[@muscledad3113]

Who needs consistent release schedules when you could get Friday afternoon surprises like this

[@Darklor_WCF]

This

[@danielled8665]

Agreed! I was just thinking I needed something to make my adhd arse actually get started on some chores.

[@-r-495]

that it came out today is because they got their new merch on sale. solely because of that.

[@java4653]

*Cosy Up with Commies & Cars* coming this Fall to Discovery+.

[@miamisasquatch]

I have @Perun for scheduled releases

[@theryanbard]

Alice, Liam and Justin all sounded like they were experiencing simultaneous CO2 leaks during the pronoun check

[@smalllJ]

Northeast air quality this week just hits different

[@DuckBoots]

Indeed 😂 I love that Alice was all high and mighty right up until the moment she faceplanted right next to Rocz.

[@iceman5117]

@@smalllJ there was a good bit there where the sky went taupe, the haze blanketed everything on the ground, and the air smelled like cancer and hurt

[@smalllJ]

@@iceman5117 It was real bad here in PA. It was like burning trash but everywhere for 3 days. My throat is still kind of sore but it seems to be clearing up. Hopefully we have a clear weekend

[@theryanbard]

@@smalllJ As a Canadian I apologize for my dumb, on-fire country

[@FionaOfMountLawley]

The Safety Third is a very actionable in an industrial sense and very depressing. The moment I heard the term "dessicant" I knew what it was. Kitty litter isn't a dessicant, it's just an absorbent material (such as bentonite clay or, increasingly, recycled paper products). Not that those entirely lack dust problems, but they sure as hell aren't in the same league as anhydrous silica. This feels kind of like that time a waste transportation sub-contractor (Russell Bliss) used an oily mystery chemical he was paid in his day-job to get rid of (by the chemical manufacturer who had just stopped making Agent Orange) in his side hustle, dust abatement on roads in and around Times Beach, Missouri. The chemical was toxic waste and mostly consisted of dioxin. The entire town ended up being declared unfit for human habitation. It was a very off-label use, and so is the use of the powder mentioned in this Safety Third. Roz' screen name is do not eat, which is coincidentally (or not) the exact same message printed all over those anti-humidity sachets you find in various products which contain the same stuff as in this Safety Third.

[@frank6842]

I'm a newspaper reporter making $13 an hour. But I ran into a city planner that also likes your podcast and got to write about something he was doing on my beat so that made it worth it. If he sees this, hope the Active Transportation Plan is working out ;-)

[@VeggieRice]

very meet cute

[@GaldirEonai]

Alice giving IT people stress ulcers, gotta love it.

[@deeznoots6241]

Its fine and normal for hard drives to slowly fall out of their mounting

[@jbutler8585]

Hardware gore for people who know what a $2 *drive tray* is.

[@agurdel]

I think Alice is just trying to provoke a "how are they hanging?" joke!?

[@FreeRadicalX]

Nah, to be honest as an IT person her rig sounds like the majority of my personal setups. We do not practice that which we preach.

[@nithingr4359]

Enjoying the episode in 10 minutes tranches, because I have to pause to chant the words "adaptor bracket" for a minute or two.

[@s4nari]

Hello and welcome to Well There's Your Hard Drive Problem, a podcast where we critique Alice's ignorance about computer hardware.

[@opalpersonal]

critique? i think you mean just straight up criticize XD

[@bara922]

Liam's scream at @1:11:04 is up there with Justin's Joker laugh at hearing RBG died

[@Jonnyg325]

Never have I thought Liam was closer to an actionable than that moment

[@narconyx]

Which episode was that?

[@bara922]

@@narconyx I think it was one of the 9/11 episodes

[@RooneyMac]

I'd like to see an animatic for this one too

[@40cam]

Listening to this safety third while holding my cat and promising him I'll never let anything like this happen to him

[@indigohalf]

I got up to hug my cat and take a good reassuring look at her perfectly healthy toe beans.

[@TiagoJoaoSilva]

"it sucks, it squeezes, it bangs, it blows", "it does ass-to-mouth" - ever heard of the Exhaust Gas Recirculation valve? Edit: they did!

[@wojtektaracinski7977]

The duality of the Safety Third episodes: "Hey, I work in [insert extremely dangerous place]. Here's my story, where nothing really dangerous happened, and we all had a good laugh about it in the end!" VS "Hey, I used to work in this completely ordinary place, and I almost died in a horrific way, and also nothing changed in the end"

[@miikomakes8083]

Only dangerous story from a dangerous job I remember is the guy falling in the acid

[@joearnold6881]

Those three Atlanta Solidarity Fund workers, at the bail hearing the judge is quoted as saying “I don’t find it really impressive - there’s not a lot of meat on these bones” They were granted bail, ($15k each, I think?) and people stepped up to help pay (fuck your fear tactics, pigs!) so they’re out now.

[@SurelyYewJest]

Ya but now they'll F with bail rates to make them crazy high for the most minor of offenses - and really, under Fascism very little is considered minor because EVERYTHING upsets that forced order. They will also ensure that bail must be posted in uniquely extractive and inconvenient ways so that anyone south of the .001% is cowed into being a subsistence-earning robot. This is exactly why the anti-choice movement was and remains so dangerous, and nobody took it seriously enough. Just like lopping off any law that allowed women's repro health services to be obtained, to either outright outlaw or indirectly curtail those activities, they will gleefully lop off any law and any others attached to it that allow for any level of actual dissent and freedom, and isn't in the service of forcing hundreds of millions to toil for the few hundred that own everything. The errant boiling frog analogy isn't even appropriate because the question now is just how vigorous the boil is.

[@salsaroja9740]

Thanks to the good news! Fuck cops.

[@bustedsiderods8544]

We need a WTYP episode called "Well There's Your Problem: You People" hosted by Devon, Abby, and one other recurring channel person just roasting the 3 main hosts to hell and back.

[@PFMediaServices]

This is definitely my favorite suggestion yet.

[@RedShocktrooperRST]

Shouldn't that be called "Well There's Our Problem"?

[@katarjin]

I would pay $100 for that.

[@emilioporrasvergara2158]

Devon, Abigail and Activate Windows

[@piparalegal2019]

I would love to see that episode. It would be amazing.

[@zyavoosvawleilte1308]

When Alice says she thinks she has covid, 80% of the time she means she has seen a 10/10 stacked baddie

[@kevinlardi5961]

A woman so fine you feel ill after seeing her.

[@caputmedusa4234]

I don't understand where that expression came from!

[@pokeguy742]

@@caputmedusa4234 it's from Kill James Bond as a recurring bit to reference when an attractive actor has appeared on screen. Lots of "10/10 smokeshow and/or stacked baddie" lines get dropped.

[@GoredonTheDestroyer]

@@pokeguy742 I mean, the lady from Goldeneye's last name is literally _Onatopp_ and she tried to kill James Bond with her fucking _thighs._ How could she be anything _but_ a total baddie?!

[@caputmedusa4234]

@@pokeguy742 It's definitely recurring but I don't think it originated in KJB.

[@kyleglasgow007]

******I have a few but VERY important informational corrections****** (the Oldsmobile discussed in this episode is my actual car) -This engine did not start life as a Chevy 350 but an Oldsmobile 350 (namely a Gen 2 Oldsmobile V8 block). These engines (while sharing similar displacement) have little in common with each (the Chevy 350 & Olds 350). Block casting, valve angle, oil pump, pickup tube and a myriad of other things (not to mention the need for a BOP or metric transmission bell housing instead of the standard Chevrolet pattern) are entirely different & separate from Chevrolet . I hate to nitpick but these engines were developed completely independently & share no parts. The LF9 (Olds diesel) comes from the Olds 350 & actually shares a lot of things with the 307 (like the stupid oil pickup). TL;DR the Oldsmobile 350 has nothing to do with the Chevy 350, common misconception. -This point was said in passing but it's worth adding that the engineers who designed the engine brought the head bolt & water separator issue (among others) to GMs attention. When they were testing the prototypes, they were told to lose the water separator & use existing Oldsmobile head bolts b/c they didn't want to put in the hours to engineer better ones. At one point, the head bolts were almost looked at as wear item & there are actually dealer servicing materials talking about this, teaching techs to replace head bolts one by one as the cars went up in mileage but this was later nixed. A big part of the head bolt issue is that the bolt holes for the head bolts weren't machined to be deep enough, thus the clamping force was lessened as these engines aged. Another big problem these had were the early ones didn't have roller style lifters. -Believe it or not, a lot of the issues with this engine didn't directly stem from the engine itself but more so from the gearing choice in both the transmissions & the rear ends. This is another reason why 81+ cars seemed to have such a much higher survival rate than 80 & older cars. There is kind of a Goldie-locks zone for these; if geared too low, it would cause the car to starve out, be less efficient, and lug the motor. If geared too high, it would be much closer to the max volume limit of the Stanadyne pumps that were used. The way they were geared a lot of the pre-81 was way too agressive & it kept the RPMs higher which killed a lot of these. The fuel pumps they had in them just weren't up to the task of supplying fuel at that rate for sustained durations. -only cars from '78-80 had an EGR. EGR was removed on DX block equipped cars commonly found 81+. The Oldsmobile in this episode discussed does not have EGR. -TH200 was the base transmission option; starting in like 81' the aforementioned THM-200R4 was offered as an upgrade/option, so you either got 3 speed auto (some early cars had no lockup either) or a 3 speed with overdrive & lockup after '81. -The story with CARB gets even funnier; upon review once GM had the cars back it was noted that 6 out of the 9 cars had suffered completely different faults and 2 of the failures were never once documented in any of GMs testing up until this time. -This isn't a correction but something supplemental; there was a police department that got like 10-15 of these as police cruisers in 1980, by 1982 all but 1 had completely died. They sued GM & won. Part of the settlement was that GM had to buy the cars back at full price (more or less just an extended return policy on them), pay damages, & that they had to furnish rebates for gas powered GM vehicles (the Caprice & Malibu being the obvious choices). The city took the settlement & then proceeded to go with Ford for their police cruisers after that; the City of Eagan hasn't looked back since. -A water separator was added in '81 on SOME cars, not all got the water separator & I can't for the life of me remember what the split/delineation was for which cars did & didn't but my Olds (the one discussed in this podcast) actually has two, one factory and one aftermarket which has been bypassed. -1981 was actually the highest year of sales for the Oldsmobile diesel engine with 310,000 units being sold in America making up a little over 60% of the diesel market in the US. It's worth noting that these were actually sold outside the units states as well but GM did not publish export figures for US market cars

[@zechsblack5891]

Neat

[@RedShocktrooperRST]

Pin this, it's an actual useful thing that makes the episode funnier, and oh boy after that Safety Third do we need it.

[@deeznoots6241]

NERD ALERT

[@joshuanishanthchristian5217]

Great stuff! Hope you can keep that Old 'mobile going!

[@theodorgiosan2570]

My friend has an 82 Toronado with the 350 DX. 500,000 miles and counting. One top end rebuild at 350,000 miles where ARP head studs were installed. Has a Racor 500FG water separator. Pump was rebuilt with a CUCV 6.2 head and rotor. He drives it every day and it starts up no problem every single time He runs it on waste motor oil, waste vegetable oil, and pretty much whatever else. With the poppet injectors of the DX engine it's not a problem. I also built one of these with DX block, O-ringed with copper head gaskets, early 78-79 pencil injector heads, EGR delete, dry sump oiling, CAT 3126 turbocharger, intercooler, billet steel splayed bolt main caps, and piston squirters in the oil pan. Makes 550 HP and revs to 6000 RPM, it's in a Tahiti jet boat. The stroke on these engines is 3.385 so they will rev if the injection pump is modified the correct way (locked timing, transfer pump delete, variable fuel pressure regulator, and Peninsular Marine head and rotor). They are not bad engines at all and that reputation just keeps them cheap for me and my friends. Nobody will buy them, especially with that many miles on them. My friend's stock one gets 40 mpg on the highway. The 4.3 V6 was even better with 6 head bolts per cylinder, I just haven't been able to get my hands on one to build yet, I would really love to have an 85 model to play around with.

[@seanmcdonough2995]

1:11:04 is Liam's wails of anguish, for anyone who needs that drop.

[@dkbmaestrorules]

WTYP, Technology Connections and the CSB all at once? This is shaping up to be a good Friday night Edit: Liam losing it at Alice over her hard drives is amazing, up there with "I do not respect fish" lmao

[@jaysea5939]

Oh damn, CSB? That's my night sorted.

[@BrianTimm]

I'm glad I'm not the only one! I'll have to go looking for that CSB video!

[@zyavoosvawleilte1308]

As I said in the episode about Munger Hall: Broke: UCSB Woke: USCSB

[@jansalomin]

I just watched Technology Connections and USCSB

[@shadeitplease7383]

The CSB video was a banger. Excellent channel and the production quality went way up lol

[@lukeman9851]

I would absolutely listen to an episode swap where Alice gets to watch a movie with Rocz and Liam, and has to discuss an engineering disaster with Abi and Dev. Bonus points if the movie and disaster are about the same thing

[@Eloraurora]

This would be a glorious April Fool's crossover

[@lukewest7216]

This would've been great of Crazy 8s

[@nemseivideos]

Wasnt this the 911 episode

[@Soken50]

Chernobyl the series and disaster or one of the many missing flight movies based on real disappearances.

[@JazzBoat_]

@@lukewest7216 was just thinking that too, especially the the chris pine and denzel washington movie inspired by it with a lot of built up guy angst

[@opalpersonal]

safety third submitter: PLEASE GO TO A LAWYER PLEASE GO TO A LAWYER PLEASE GO TO A LAWYER THANK YOU

[@hyperflares2879]

... I'm OSHA trained. Jesus fuck that safety third. If I still had contacts, I'd literally have someone reach out to you to get her information and get a fucking lawsuit going

[@stiltpuppy]

My car battery was held in place by a bunch of wood shims for about a week once, so I'm pretty sure that could fly in alice's computer

[@opalpersonal]

depending on the car you can just pep talk it into running even missing half the engine give a souped-up computer a vaguely mean look and it will brick itself am i being hyperbolic? only a little

[@joshuahadams]

That’s how my old PS3 hdd is mounted. Little wooden shim to keep it in place since Sony were dicks and didn’t include a mounting cage in the empty drive bay.

[@the_vvatch]

That Safety Third segment was terrifying. What the actual fuck. (omfg the poor cats and volunteers)

[@yesterdaysrose5446]

Your sole source of inco- YOUR SOLE SOURCE OF INCOME WTF I've been a member of Donoteat Patreon for as long as I've been a member of WTYP Patreon. And all I can say is this. That stream the other day, Justin? Worth the money. 100%.

[@sakurakiyori]

Victoria's episodes make me happily learn about cars, which is basically a miracle, since the whole idea of me driving has given me The Fear since my first brush with go-carts as a child.

[@jasonyoung5628]

Yay Victoria! Lovely to hear from you. Edited to add: Rudy Diesel designed his engine to run on peanut oil, so big petroleum may well have killed him.

[@tyson31415]

Alice: "So I'm going to complain about it for an hour and a half." Me:

[@jamespocelinko104]

My favorite fun fact about Oldsmobile is about the 1903 American road trip. The first to drive across the US in a car was Horatio Jackson and Sewall Crocker in a Winton touring car named "Vermont". Second place went to the attempt made by the Packard car company, which despite being better prepared was slowed down because they decided to take a route that made for better pictures but was harder to traverse. Oldsmobile came third but when they got to New York they dipped their tires in the Atlantic so they could claim they were the first to drive "from one ocean to the other".

[@ernekid7241]

I welcome the Activate Windows logo like an old friend

[@Mickulty]

Timestamps: 0:00:00 Intro and Alice Sleep Update 0:10:59 Digression: Alice's Cursed [curse-ed] Computer 0:19:24 The GD News: US Labour Relations Get Worse Again (cw enraging) 0:24:05 The GD News: US Cops Attack Bail Fund (cw enraging) 0:30:05 Context: The Diesel Internal Combustion Engine 0:37:08 Digression: Diesel Submarines 0:39:08 Context: The Near-Deaths and Death of Rudy Diesel 0:43:15 Context: Problems with Diesels 0:52:54 Context: CAFE and Efficient 70s Cars 1:03:40 How GM Handled CAFE + Alice's Computer 2 1:19:31 Design Flaw #1 1:27:00 Design Flaws #2-5 1:32:20 Design Flaw #6 1:34:28 Design Flaw #7 1:37:09 Aftermath 1:46:36 The One Upside 1:48:16 Conclusion 1:49:07 Safety Third: Cat Lovers For Silicosis (digressions mostly timestamped as a positive recommendation of those segments) On a personal note I too am upset about Alice's hard drives. Also thank you Anna who I think is the person who gets these added to the descriptions.

[@PFMediaServices]

Thank you yet again for providing these. Technically it's Devon who adds them to the description, but I am indeed the Anna who sends the list to them. ✌🍍

[@chaiguitars3369]

I can never decide if a WTYP release makes cracking a beer at 11:45am acceptable or not... Regardless I'm ridiculously happy to see Victoria return, I'm a big fan of a lot of your guests but Victoria will always be the honorary 4th host in my mind. Y'all have great chemistry and she brings a wonderful knowledge base to the pod

[@MrJimheeren]

I would say Garrett Dennis is the honorary fourth host. But Victoria is pretty good as well

[@PFMediaServices]

As a former "any excuse works" kind of drinker, please do it for me. ✌️🍍

[@q3st1on19]

Idk if a wtyp episode makes it acceptable but you know what does? Driving.

[@STOP_red_light]

I can almost hear Devon weeping and banging their head against various walls upon receiving the sound files for this one. Seriously Devon, thank you for your service.

[@DERDOHR]

Sometimes Liam can be a little much with his threats and hyperbole... but once Alice started talking about the (a) new HDD she bought (b) for gaming, which she (c) at first just crammed in her permanently open(?) case, only to later (d) half-install it, since her PC setup is fucked, because she has (e) an ancient case that is (f) crammed in a dirty and dusty corner of the room... man, my urge to cause a person bodily harm has never been greater. Please Liam, save that poor PC from the clutches of this unhinged madwoman! PS: Oh lord no! I had to pause to write my rant and now she goes on about 16 external hard drives and her spiderweb of USB hubs... of course all the external drives are various generations of USB, different sizes, different makes and all in their own little off-the-shelf-cases, piled high or crammed into a box or something. If you are normal and don't get how this feels: image she is a crazy cat lady who lost count of how many cats she owns, but already has a date set for when she is going to get her next pet.

[@nicolescats2]

A hardrive set up so bad that KZbin flagged the video for self harm. (Why is this the video that gets flagged of all things?)

[@falloutghoul1]

No wonder the TrashFuture streams have no Live Reactions anymore. Alice does it all from her computer.

[@jamesphillips2285]

@@nicolescats2 I suspect it was due to the Rudolf Diesel segment.

[@daltonkraft4241]

Victoria is perfect because she talks over the hosts as much as they talk over each other

[@GaldirEonai]

"I hope it's COVID and not something else" is SUCH a 2023 mood...

[@jimbrown5091]

Former diesel engine warranty engineer: I once handled a technical support call where a snowcat in Antarctica was having issues. It had been fed a steady diet of JP5 or JP6. Being an older mechanically injected engine it would in fact run on jet fuel (kerosene) which is more wax-resistent than diesel in cold temperatures. Unfortunately they didn't read the fine print, jet fuel was approved for military applications under emergency use (war/combat) WITH APPROPRIATE LUBRICITY ADDITIVES...because diesel fuel acts as a lubricant for the tiny clearances in the high pressure pump and injectors. Using jet fuel (thinner and less oily than diesel), the injectors and pumps had worn themselves to point where they could no longer generate the extremely high pressures needed for proper atomization of the fuel and thus the snowcat would not start or run very well. Old (purely mechanical) diesels can run on almost any hydrocarbon, but only for a while. Diesel fuel could be diluted with used motor oil, old fry grease, straight soybean or rapeseed (canola) oil with little outward signs of degradation...until...

[@jaysea5939]

Congrats on getting through that intro Devon pls, the clusterfucks are some of the best episodes

[@fog5835]

Great episode as always! Heartbreaking to hear what's going on with the rights to strike and protest in the US, hope the situation improves. Was a bit surprised yall didn't also cover the Nova Kakhovka dam being blown up and the following ecological disaster, but I assume this was recorded before that happened. Hoping to hear y'all's opinions next week. Much love from Kyiv 💙💛

[@taliaroses]

much love to Ukraine from a Ukrainian-American Jew 🇺🇦

[@chaiguitars3369]

Commenting again because at 52:00 y'all just described Edison Motors, a new Canadian truck company which plans to retrofit old trucks with new frames, a ton of batteries and motors, and a Cat diesel generator to make hybrid off-highway logging trucks and similar. They're currently building the first prototype for their original design as well as a trailer covered in solar panels, and they've done 1 or 2 old truck retrofits which are just one of the coolest things ever.

[@KodaDogwood]

...Did Alice just describe mounting a hard drive in a 5.25 inch bay?

[@welltheresyourproblempodca1465]

Yes.

[@KodaDogwood]

I KNEW IT

[@jaysea5939]

I somehow have a bunch of adapter brackets for that, they multiply by magic

[@chestermightbeafrog]

After that wonderfully chaotic mess of a podcast, that safety 3rd was thr true horror of the episode. I hope that listener gets a decent lawyer to jump on their case, that's insane, the poor cats 😢 Also yay Victoria!

[@whackedoutpoobrain]

I hope she immediately reports the shelter to OSHA, animal control, and state and federal departments of labor. Hell, if they didn't redact the info for it, I'd do it right now. They are actively abusing and harming workers and animals at that facility. It's not a near miss or a potential danger they are experiencing, they are being harmed right now.

[@ArtoriusBravo]

Seriously though, the real hazard of this episode is the safety third. I don't even know what is worse, the volunteers who donate time and receive in exchange a whole buffet of rare cancers and awful working conditions, the kittens who are suffering and dying due to the literal waste of a chemical industry used as litter, or the assholes who I bet are making tons of money of this shit show. This wonderful distopia we are living in.

[@princeoftonga]

1:11:04 I think we may actually be witnessing Liam having an aneurysm through sheer anger at Alice! I suppose it was going to happen sooner or later.

[@Trendyflute]

Would never have happened if his brain was more rigid.

[@SuperSweetBoy]

Fitting that the Oldsmobile was an absolute horror show of a car considering one of its most lasting pop culture legacies is its appearance in damn near everything Sam Raimi has directed

[@ChristopherHallett]

Only the diesel version. They were also available with gasoline V8 engines.

[@MrTaxiRob]

The diesel wasn't available in that model year. Back in '73 GM had a diesel V6 for trucks, but they never offered them in a passenger car. They even bolted two together for a diesel V12.

[@Bawiealnd]

The Sam Raimi-Oldsmobile-Lansing axis is not nearly appreciated enough.

[@christater5540]

The saddest thing about the next epsiode being about the Chernobyl Disaster is that we're *never* getting a four hour long two parter on it

[@RedShocktrooperRST]

It'll probably be the next Live Show.

[@CowMaster9001]

Do you really think some Communists would be willing to go into the systemic rot that engulfs communist countries? You'd see Vaush and Ben Shapiro discussing seduction techniques during a game of Amogus before that.

[@zikkthegreat]

i love that alice has laptop sized hard drives dangling from desktop sized drive bays. this is triggering AF 😂

[@joearnold6881]

Or that she bought an overpriced, “gamer” drive… that’s a _spinning disk,_ when she needs the drive for videogames. SSDs are t that expensive anymore. You can get one that would fit Windows for ten dollars and it would be the single best upgrade one could recommend. A multi terabyte one could be had for half what that hard disk cost her.

[@kainhall]

​@@joearnold6881 ya... but you arnt getting 6TB for half price...... . also.... the WD black isnt really a gaming drive..... its just 7200 RPM VS the blues 5400 RPM bit more cashe.... better reads/writes ETC . i had a 2TB black..... and it was pretty quick for a spinning disk and not overpriced AT ALL

[@kainhall]

she put it in a CD drive bay.... thats why the screws didnt work...... lol

[@terminalblue]

So glad that KZbin gave me a little warning about this video having self-harm content. Like bruh, it's an episode about an American car company, I KNOW ALREADY

[@DamianMarx]

Happy pride guys, hope you're doing well ❤️🧡💛💚🩵💙💜🤎🖤🩶🤍🩷

[@420bongking]

desantis is still vertical, not a very happy pride to me

[@chaiguitars3369]

​@J M pat robertson is dead though so that's a W!

[@dr.velious5411]

HAPP PRID! Let us go forth, be gay, do crimes, punch fascists.

[@theryanbard]

Here's hoping Desantis gets redacted

[@fauxpinkytoo]

​@@420bongkingKen Paxton is descending in flames in Texas! I'll take my victories where I can get them, lol. I fucking hate that guy... And looking forward to celebrating my first Pride in surprisingly gay-friendly Oklahoma City on June 25! Take care.

[@Cynbel_Terreus]

Because of that safety third I'm expecting a Legal Eagle to show up at some point in one of these. That would be hilarious.

[@joshuahadams]

Liam’s ranting about HDD mounts is _great_ and _so_ relatable.

[@ChristopherHallett]

It sounds like Alice installed a 3.5 inch HDD into an optical drive slot.

[@ChristopherHallett]

Bah hah hah hah hah! I was right!

[@2001Pieps]

I think the lesson of this episode is that the true engineering disaster is -in our hearts- Alice's computer.

[@slakingfool]

I enjoyed a dinner of Chicago-style deep dish pizza with two tall shots of vodka while watching the podcast, and ended up going to the land of nod around 1:20. Woke up in the middle of 'Shake Hands With Danger', watched that through and went back to 1:20 to promptly go to sleep again. On the third watch now. I have no regrets.

[@katarjin]

A person of good taste in pizza, hope you finished this time. (I miss Chicago some days)

[@NoPegs]

My aunt and uncle owned one of these at the time... Gas station attendants would come running over to stop the 'clueless lady who pulled up to the diesel pump and was filling the gas tank with diesel'... Because chauvanism and 'nobody makes diesel cars in America, certainly not an Oldsmobile!' For the first few months until enough of them sold to become a known in the wild strange beast...

[@chancekahle2214]

To be fair, it isn't rare for people to put the wrong fuel in a new, borrowed, or rented car. They were at least trying to avert a disaster.

[@jasonyoung5628]

I can't tell you how many times I've had to fix a diesel truck that had either gas put in the tank, or even worse DEF fluid . That's a ten grand mistake.

[@platenoise256]

@@jasonyoung5628 Diesel Exhaust Fluid Fluid

[@jasonyoung5628]

@@platenoise256 Yea, I still call it the ATM machine too. It makes more sense, at least to me.

[@antidote5125]

​@@chancekahle2214I feel like most people (at least in the US) would default to regular gasoline though, if someone is putting diesel in a vehicle they probably have a reason to be doing so

[@darrens3]

3:30 - Liam hooning his valves into low earth orbit; adding speed holes to his bonnet in the process. 3:35 - "And I'll do it AGAIN!" 4:20 - Rotate a van detonating in your mind.

[@drunkkmachine4511]

*freebird intensifies*

[@Leaked_Dudes]

The International Harvester punchline you were looking for at 1:24:00 is "Thirteen letter cheek spreader"

[@BarackLesnar]

bro, youtube, i already know that oldsmobilie diesels suck,, i'm not killing my self over it. it's been like 40 years, i've wanted to do it all this time and i haven't done it yet

[@massimocole9689]

46:20 Diesel exhaust actually has a good chunk of water in it, cause water and CO2 are the main by products of hydrocarbon combustion. And since most of the mass of the water is the oxygen, which you are getting free from the air, you get a surprising large amount. Burning 1 pound of diesel produces 1.3 pounds of water. So there is plenty of water to grab if you could, it's just a pain to extract.

[@SamwiseOutdoors]

I remember reading a story from a former teenage small-town hooligan who grew up in Maine. The town's two cop cars were Olds diesels, and the fun time for a young hooligan was to stunt until the authorities showed up and then race away and inevitably leave the cops in the dust. Anyway, one night the cops decided to really press the pursuit and really get these teen rabble rousers. The storyteller said that they could see the cop car in their mirror- close, then less close, then just some lights on the horizon, and finally just a huge plume of black smoke. The cops ran the engine too hard and blew the cylinder heads off in a just catastrophic failure.

[@falloutghoul1]

*Activate Windows has returned!* This is not a drill! *Activate Windows LIVES!*

[@gaelanmccann6686]

I really enjoyed this WTYP episode about Alice's computer hard drive

[@Honzo13]

Liam I feel your pain being the computer guy in the friend group 😂😂😂

[@Its-Just-Zip]

I don't often get disturbed by some of the safety. Thirds that I hear on this podcast because I have ones that match most of them and why I have a situation that matches this one fairly closely where we use a fine powdered silicate. I also have the entire safety procedure we used around that and I know it was not only up to regulations but it was in fact better than regulation. The poster of today's safety third not only needs to find a lawyer but likely needs to get in touch with a medical team as well

[@Toradoshi12]

I fully expect a Van 2 bonus episode.

[@himoffthequakeroatbox4320]

Liam's Van 2 Electric Boogaloo.

[@GoredonTheDestroyer]

"Hello and welcome to... Well There's Your Problem. I'm Justin Roczniack, my pronouns are He/Him. Today, Liam will be giving an update on his van. Yay Liam." "Yay Liam! Hi, I'm Liam Anderson, my pronouns are He/Him. I have sold the van." "...That'll do it. This has been Well There's Your Problem."

[@ebnertra0004]

@@GoredonTheDestroyer Yeah, the problem is he would have sold the van before it had a chance to drive him insane

[@falloutghoul1]

Alice's Computer Setup Bonus Episode.

[@memph1ston]

I really liked the noises when you added text to slides Devon, it helps to distract me from my job of designing critical aerospace parts. . . . *shake hands with danger*

[@dxb338]

the algorithm at one point decided i need to see videos of bri'ish people plying airsoft. the devon interject sound and symbol are the same as the one that they all use to show that someone got hit. IDK what the connection is but thats there.

[@memph1ston]

@@dxb338 It's the CoD hitmarker noise.

[@nickkourpias]

Playing American Truck Simulator while watching this and Victoria's description of a diesel engine sounding like "a bag on cinderblocks in a washing machine" is very accurate.

[@tahrey]

It's weirdly ASMR though, so long as it's not too loud

[@BadQualityStudios]

appropriate level of anger over free hanging spinning disks

[@theredblooper]

This episode once again reaffirms my assertion that the best car you could ever own for longevity and reliability is a humble Toyota. Any Toyota to be honest, you won't be disappointed.

[@fofalooza]

The news waits for no one...except Alice. Somehow I feel like the next planned upgrade for her is a 4k monitor so she can fit more icons on the desktop...he says while casually ignoring his own desktop nightmare lurking behind the active window.

[@sampagano205]

Victoria, the official car correspondent of the podcast.

[@redkite1908]

Carrespondent.

[@c.djinmyr]

Jesus christ, that safety 3rd absolutely needs to sue, fucking hell

[@nicholascallahan6460]

I eagerly await the "Alice's computer" bonus episode.

[@interstellarshadow5571]

Petition to have Liam rebuild Alice's computer

[@FishyAltFishy]

I have never seen a youtube video do prompts for hot topics EVERY time i try watching it.

[@TuckerD92]

loving Devon's recent spate of editor messages on the slides

[@segarallychampionship702]

Right when Alice started talking about the "hard drive bracket in the front of the computer" I thought "did she install it into the DVD drive bay?" For the records, Liam realized that at 1:05:38.

[@segarallychampionship702]

Second realization is at 1:10:55.

[@FiveTiger]

You know it's gonna be a hot one when you get the suicide/self harm warning before the video starts, a.k.a., a "yay liam" moment

[@SizzleCorndog]

That safety third was so fucking insane the fact and pisses me off as a chemical worker, mfs don’t see that something is acid and think they can just leave it around

[@kazmark_gl8652]

Glad to have seen possibly the very first WTYP episode that could be admissible in court. I really hope that volunteer from Safty Third Lawyers the fuck up and i see that shit in the news.

[@bobsmith2637]

Alice - if you're looking for an awesome sounding diesel look no farther than the subject of your previous episode: the SD40-2 locomotive and its turbocharged two-stroke EMD 645 engine. No rattle and all scream. And it's a GM product, but I guess the car people didn't talk to anyone from EMD or Detroit while they were designing the Olds diesels.

[@jessebrook1688]

They didn't. Oldsmobile started it for funsies to keep their big cars relevant, since the small cars (Omega, Starfire) were selling in such low numbers compared to their division-mates. They were hoping to have it ready for 1980, by early 1976, because of some of the cost-cutting measures they were doing were taking extra time to work the kinks out of. GM management got wind of the extent of the project, sped it up so that it came out 2 years early, and that was the kiss of death. Because the Cutlass was such a hot seller, they made a down-sized V8 for it. That proved to be the rarest, as none of GM's other divisions wanted that little, powerless, engine. They considered asking the Detroit Diesel division, but when DD saw what the shape of the program was, they quickly stepped back, working on their own 4-stroke engine for trucks.

[@jessebrook1688]

Also, the engine was Olds' own 350, because all of GM's divisions worked so competitively back in the mid-1970s that each of them had their own engines. The "GM V8" idea came as the 1970s closed, and so the Chevrolet 350 became "the" 350. Up until about 1980, there was a Buick 350, a Chevrolet 350, an Olds 350, a Pontiac 350, a Chevrolet 307, an Olds 307, a Pontiac 301, and a Chevrolet 305. All of these have so many upsized and downsized variants, not to mention Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet, and Pontiac all had their own monster motor variants. After this diesel debacle and Cadillac's two terrible engines in a row (V8-6-4 and 4100HT), Cadillac was the only one keeping their separate engines.

[@Transit_Biker]

That was a rough safety 3rd. A family member of mine is heavily involved in animal rescue and fostering/home placement and I can tell you right now they don’t involve themselves with anything unless they can see for themselves if a location is safe/appropriate & the people are acting ethically for both the people and the animals. The fact that there has seeemingly been no audit or inspection of this facility brings to question the validity of everything that they are doing, including where funding is going. Whomever approved the use of this material for cat litter should see jail time for sure and anyone complicit should also be held accountable. Totally inexcusable.

[@funkbungus137]

that safety third is insane, I hope something comes of it, please if there are any developments could you perhaps let the audience know?

[@newsjunkie7135]

This episode was very educational. I learned a lot about hard drive sizes.

[@OstrichWrestler]

I was wondering why there was a self-harm warning until I heard Liam say he wanted a SSR @ 8:53

[@reidwallace4258]

"I don't know how you keep this podcast even remotely on track" 'He doesn't' Truer words have never been spoken.

[@Naedlus]

The commentary by Devon makes the KZbin version of the podcast the definitive one. There, I've said it.

[@PFMediaServices]

Have you experienced the captions yet? They get added about a week after the upload, and are as chaotic to read as the gang is to listen to.

[@oohhboy-funhouse]

He ripped them a new one with Employee vs Contractor on a left wing podcast. I was like, dammmnn.

[@ChristopherHallett]

As a diesel mechanic, diesel fuel DOES have to be sprayed into as fine a mist as possible and thoroughly mixed with the air in the cylinder to ignite and burn fully and cleanly. There are also zero explosions in an internal combustion engine (diesel, spark ignition, and other processes like jet turbines) that is running correctly. You want the fuel/air mixture to burn, not explode. Explosions cause things like holes melting their way through pistons, ring lands cracking, and conrod bearings being hammered out the side of the conrod and into the sump.

[@05Matz]

I mean, 'detonation engines' exist in theory, with excellent performance factors and the open-ended kind is being pursued as a substitute for jet engines in the 'rotating detonation engine', but I've never heard of the fully-contained kind (analogous to a regular internal combustion engine) ever working yet, even to the highly-experimental degree rotating detonation engines do. That said, I wouldn't say something needs to be a proper detonation to count as an explosion, surely the deflagrations found in internal-combustion engines count towards the word 'explosion'? The way I heard it, detonations (spread by their own pressure wave or faster effects like light/radiation) and deflagrations (limited to the speed of heat transfer through the medium) were the two different _kinds_ of explosion.

[@ChristopherHallett]

@@05Matz Combustion of the fuel/air mixture (with the flamefront typically travelling at ~100 ft/s) is a chemically and physically different process to the mixture exploding, with significant differences in the resulting temperatures, pressures, and gaseous cavitation within the combustion chamber, and shock loading of the engine components.

[@05Matz]

@@ChristopherHallett But again, that's called a deflagration and a detonation. Aren't both considered 'explosions'? They didn't say "detonates", they said "explodes", as in "to burn or otherwise react with explosive force".

[@jonathankleinow2073]

I'd forgotten about the Chevy SSR entirely until I looked it up. I figured they have to be pretty rare now, but I checked Autotrader and there's a 2004 for sale at a dealership two miles from my house with 22,555 miles for $28,500. The dealer's description, probably copied from somewhere else, says, "Combining the styling elements of a late '40s Chevy pickup, the attitude of a muscle car and the fun of a roadster, the SSR is an entertaining answer to a question nobody asked."

[@True_NOON]

Last time we had 0 man crews, and now we have Cars, also repeating the Motto again for newer listeners: Cars bad - Trains good - Horse neutral(but mostly *Chunky* marinara)

[@KevinSiebert]

Get well soon Alice, I hope it's not the Spongiform Encephalopathy

[@toastpoint]

turns out, she was the only one of the group without it.

[@AGenericMoron]

Perfect episode opening, you wonderful people. Not even watched the rest of the episode, just the introductions, and this is already a pretty high-tier one.

[@kpfwPenguin]

I love the ongoing 'B' topic here of "Tech support with Liam"

[@05Matz]

Yeah, I was going to say, that's silicosis you're getting in the Safety Third thing. You've got to wear a mask when you're raising desiccant dust like that. Talk to lawyers, they'll potentially do the lawsuit for a cut of the profits rather than charging you anything. ...but it seems the podcast said everything I was going to say.

[@-r-495]

The health warning made me smile because after hours of wtyppod I understand your modus operandi. You‘re saying stuff and the algorithm wants to protect us listeners from ads. That‘s why Roz can state „this is the only ad you‘ll hear“ (~) in the ad for Patreon.

[@ericfischer8295]

WELCOME TO COMPUTER TALK! IN THIS EPISODE OF COMPUTER TALK WE WILL DISCUSS 2.5 AND 3.5 INCH DRIVES!

[@Trendyflute]

That safety third...please sue that organization to oblivion!! For the people AND for the animals!!

[@noway1733]

Bonus Episode: Alice's Computer

[@QuarrelsomeLocalOaf]

Slop! Sweet, nourishing slop!

[@MrMega360noscope]

After a long day working at GMC on diesel trucks it brings me great pleasure to listen to this episode