As someone who found this podcast like two months ago and is watching the episodes very out of order, it feels like digging up gold to have found the first appearance of the God Damned News.
@scout8145 Жыл бұрын
Seconded, from 9 months in the future!
@JulianFortune Жыл бұрын
Either of y’all know how the tacoma narrows gag started?
@Tzilandi Жыл бұрын
@@JulianFortune I think the Tacoma Narrows bridge is a subject that's been covered so often by so many people when discussing engineering, the joke is that they don't actually need to talk about it, because everyone and their mother has already covered it.
@racheleast688 Жыл бұрын
@@JulianFortune it does eventually get covered and the gag episode changes.
@cheekyninja8983 Жыл бұрын
So glad to finally have had the joke explained. Ive been binging every episode for months and consistently have the thought "man are they just putting it off? Whats up with that?" Then occasionally hearing a different one and being even more confused
@katamariroller28374 жыл бұрын
Hey, I´m a Spanish fan of the channel. "Hucha" means piggy bank, as in the piggy bank you give children. The place called "Churrasquería" north of the airport is not about churros, it´s a grilled meat restaurant (churrasco means grilled meat). So I guess the lady was having some damn good grilled meat while the passengers in the plane she was in got grilled as well. Don´t worry about alienating Spanish speakers. Only fascism and taking serious things seriously can do that to us.
@loplopthebird18604 жыл бұрын
Ya somos dos :DDDD
@MaikMakensi4 жыл бұрын
I probably should get mad, but it's siesta time and that comes first
@do_care9194 жыл бұрын
I still remember how my student exchange hosts in Poland once said Spain was all about "Siesta, Fiesta y mañana". I'm sitll simultaneously triggered and like "well, they kinda have a point"
@MaikMakensi4 жыл бұрын
@@do_care919 Them not mentioning the cuisine superiority of the paella and the tortilla is a big trigger for me
@do_care9194 жыл бұрын
@@MaikMakensi of course, my immediate response to that was sth in the lines of "well, at least my national cuisine doesn't have cabbage in every freaking thing." Because for some stupid reason, Poland uses cabbage even on its kebabs
@Grimpy970 Жыл бұрын
In future aircraft videos, I think it's worth mentioning a human factor that most people are unaware of. Most airline staff are only paid for the time they're physically in flight. Taxiway frustration isn't just being stuck in traffic, it's unpaid labor. This pressure causes people, especially seasoned veterans, to lose their cool and make decisions based on years of frustration and disgruntlement. Small, understanable acts of rebellion or 'short' communication can contribute to a disaster. Most accidents and disasters are not caused by a single fault or incident, but multiple. This human factor, which is coincidentally a labor issue (which you guys looove talking about) is routinely stripping away one layer of safety every single day, at airports across the world. Thank you for coming to my ted talk
@ClaudiaNW4 жыл бұрын
"Nanny had an unexpected gift for languages; she could be comprehensibly incompetent in a new one within an hour or two. What she spoke was one step away from gibberish but it was authentically foreign gibberish." Terry Pratchett, about Alice
@johnbrearley97914 жыл бұрын
Episode 22: In which we learn that Liam hates the Dutch because he lost money betting on them in the 2010 FIFA World Cup Final, also colonialism.
@grizzly37934 жыл бұрын
As a Dutch, I think those are two very valid reasons to hate us.
@melissametivier44 жыл бұрын
I live in Western Michigan, where people say things like, "If you ain't Dutch, you ain't much!" and think Betsy DeVos's ideas are great.
@notthedroidsyourelookingfo40262 жыл бұрын
Didn't he misidentify the match? It sounded more like the 2006 one with Zidane vs Materazzi.
@zeitgeistx52392 жыл бұрын
@@melissametivier4 NW Iowa is entirely Dutch. But I have a feeling your Michigan Dutch might just be the English pronunciation of Deutsche.
@melissametivier42 жыл бұрын
@@zeitgeistx5239 No, no, they're Dutch. Netherlands Dutch.
@asimplekraken13184 жыл бұрын
The Ice-breaker should paint the silhouette of the navy cruiser on the side
@jeova0sanctus0unus4 жыл бұрын
I mean that counts as a Kill, right?
@Ometecuhtli3 жыл бұрын
@@jeova0sanctus0unus Still counts as one
@embersaffron55223 жыл бұрын
I wonder if that's the first cruise ship to have a confirmed kill
@kaustubhillindala26433 жыл бұрын
@@embersaffron5522 Olympic sunk a submarine
@therealuncleowen2588 Жыл бұрын
The Stockholm sunk the Andrea Doria. No word if a silhouette of the ship was painted on the side of the Stockholm.
@EyeMWing4 жыл бұрын
"The goddamned news" is a good name for the segment
@justanothersam57084 жыл бұрын
Culture man see I you of are ahh a too
@justinokraski37964 жыл бұрын
what is that a reference to?
@cashnelson23063 жыл бұрын
@@justinokraski3796 it;s a reference to goddamn current events
@synthgal10903 жыл бұрын
I've got some god damn news for you
@weatheranddarkness3 жыл бұрын
I think Ros agreed
@kwarra-an4 жыл бұрын
As a South African, genuinely enjoying all the anti-Dutch sentiment
@andrevanderleeuw80704 жыл бұрын
We deserve it.
@arkadeepkundu47294 жыл бұрын
Aren't South Africans, especially Afrikaners, basically the Dutch equivalent of British Australians? Like how people make fun of Australians for being basically British Texans.
@kwarra-an4 жыл бұрын
@@arkadeepkundu4729 I'd argue it's basically just the hardcore Afrikaners that like the Dutch, and just the hardcore English South Africans that like the Brits. They're v obnoxious
@TheBananenbeer4 жыл бұрын
@@arkadeepkundu4729 well we did do similar racisms in those colonies
@loplopthebird18604 жыл бұрын
But dutch people are bike-friendly :-(
@Raptor7474 жыл бұрын
Some explanations about some of the major points you guys didn't really catch on to or know about: 1) The reason they built an airport at high altitude, in a place that has a tendency for fog, is because on small islands, you have very little choice at all for locations to build a runway. Having a long enough, flat-enough runway with acceptable wind characteristics is far, far more important than visibility, since instrument landing systems exist (and did back then), meaning that landing a plane in heavy fog would be tricky but feasible, which is far better than literally having nowhere to land the plane at all. For all the people that died in the ensuing tragedy, the alternative to not having the Tenerife Airport would be to have all of the planes land and unload passengers into an airport that had a nasty bomb problem. 2) The reason the planes had to taxi all the way down the runway just to take off in the other direction is, as you guessed, the wind. You actually WANT a headwind when taking off or landing, because it means that you can go slower while still achieving adequate lift for flight (which is critical in either landing or takeoff); taking off with a tailwind means that you need to go faster and use up more of the runway, which also makes it harder to slow down if there's a problem with the takeoff. 3) The whole American 747 not getting off at taxiway three was a combination of factors: the thick fog made it hard to see; the sharp turn combined with the unfamiliar airport led the pilots to believe that that turn couldn't be the one they were being told to use, and they had to make that decision in the span of a few seconds. They didn't want to risk taking a wrong turn and getting stuck in the back of a massive traffic jam with no way to see where they were. Lastly, it just plain made sense to use the taxiway entrance that they could easily identify and use to get off the runway, especially since no sane or remotely competent pilot would take off down a runway where they (and the tower) had no visibility but KNEW there was a fully-loaded 747 following them down it. It would be suicidal. 4) Ultimately, despite all of the incredibly difficult conditions and lacking equipment, the key reason that the accident occurred is because the KLM captain--over the objections of his own co-pilot--decided to take off with zero visibility down a runway there was a good chance still had a big plane on it...without even trying to get clearance first. There were plenty of reasons why he did this, but none of them come close to excusing the sheer recklessness, insanity, irresponsibility, and pointlessness of him doing it. 5) It is, or at least was, routine for air traffic controllers to give clearance for a ROUTE before a plane takes off or gets clearance to takeoff. Getting takeoff clearance is explicit and differently worded. It's also worth noting that it truly takes a suicidally reckless idiot to firewall the throttles of his fully-loaded 747 in zero-visibility conditions down a runway that they aren't sure doesn't STILL HAVE ANOTHER 747 ON IT. Especially when getting clarification would have taken another 30 seconds at most. The fact that the KLM captain just proclaimed "We're going" without having actually received explicit takeoff clearance or having his own co-pilot say that they had clearance really says it all. The KLM captain DECIDED that they were going, rather than the entire principle of takeoff clearance: it's something you ask for, and are explicitly granted by another. If the pilot declares that they're going, that pilot has no business flying anything. 6) One of the major changes that came from this accident was a huge push for ground radar to be installed in airports, especially ones with low visibility issues (like fog). The biggest challenge for the ATC at Tenerife was that most of the time, they couldn't see fucking anything through the fog, and were reliant on radio to know where anything was at all. Of course, no radar in the world is going to protect you when a captain decides that he's going to floor it down the runway in zero visibility without clearance.
@sleatersan4 жыл бұрын
This was super interesting and a lovely supplement to the podcast; thanks for sharing! (Oh god, this might be the most sincere youtube comment I've ever written, and now I'm looking it over and can't stop misreading it as sarcastic. I'm not being sarcastic, I promise! I genuinely enjoyed your comment.)
@Ometecuhtli3 жыл бұрын
That's not true of the airport of Los Rodeos, though, they already knew it was a bad location yet the council decided to build there temporarily and improvements came slowly. There wasn't a ground radar at the time of the accident (or was not in service, I can't recall) and the new airport was still in construction, unfortunately too late to save the hundreds of lives lost on that fatidic date.
@Altoclarinets2 жыл бұрын
"Nasty bomb problem"???
@kalindastrome2182 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this very detailed and non rude addendum, very useful information
@dexterpoindexter3583 Жыл бұрын
@SaltyWaffles *Very* well summarized. I've been binging on Tenerife videos for a few days (to get ready for the 46th anniversary in under two weeks' time?), so when you sagely remarked that "no radar in the world could protect you...", my sleep-deprived only thought was "No, but maybe a cop tossing spike strips onto the runway would do it". Sorry. 😔 Had to share; misery shared is misery halved, y'know.
@Comnlink4 жыл бұрын
Funnier fact about that Venezuelan patrol vessel, they had just finished paying for it. It was also one of only three ships in its class. So, in other words, the Venezuelan navy lost 1/3 of its modern patrol vessel fleet to a cruise ship
@RoamingAdhocrat4 жыл бұрын
…does that mean that Venezuela has (and continues to have) a larger modern patrol vessel fleet than the Royal Navy
@jacobs20994 жыл бұрын
@@RoamingAdhocrat Lol Mexico has a bigger one and most people dont even know they have a navy
@Comnlink4 жыл бұрын
Roaming Adhocrat nope, the rn has got a couple of brand new, as in commissioned in 2018-19 offshore patrol vessels, the Venezuelan navy’s opv fleet was commissioned in the 2000s the one in question being finished around 2008
@teslashark4 жыл бұрын
@@Comnlink Didn't Britain give them an extended financing program?
@Comnlink4 жыл бұрын
teslashark I cannot remember
@Yora214 жыл бұрын
"This is going to be someone else's problem in about 15 seconds." seems like a good attitude for facing certain death.
@WHYSMYUSERNAMETHAT4 жыл бұрын
the basque space program isnt funny cars only do that when they are very distressed and full of fascists
@TheBananenbeer4 жыл бұрын
thank you this is hilarious
@vienlacrose4 жыл бұрын
You do realize that's literally every american on the interstate, right?
@loplopthebird18604 жыл бұрын
@@vienlacrose Even anarchists or communists riding a Greyhound bus or a shared car if they have no other choice?
@Frommerman4 жыл бұрын
What if there were no basque antifa bombers? What if cars full of fascists just do that?
@albertovillaescusarico94563 жыл бұрын
Car = bad, unless it sacrifices itself to kill fascists.
@panicpillow60974 жыл бұрын
As a Dutch person I can confirm that everything said about the Dutch in this episode is 100% accurate.
@urbandiscount Жыл бұрын
I can confirm this confirmation
@Turpin_Paints4 жыл бұрын
ATCO here, I was shown this disaster three times while I was training (including the Smithsonian doc) to emphasise the need for standard phraseology. If I recall correctly, the Dutch captain was also in danger of busting his duty hours due to all the delays at Tenerife, which would have resulted in him losing his license, that explains why he might have been in such a rush.
@ExperimentIV4 жыл бұрын
Ryan Palmer damn that’s cool. seems like a cool job, but i don’t think i have the focus for it, and when you fuck up working ATC you usually fuck up pretty bad. the modern standard is to not say takeoff at all until actual takeoff, using departure instead, right?
@Turpin_Paints4 жыл бұрын
@@ExperimentIV It's particularly difficult to focus at the moment with such little traffic, it's surprising how many incidents occur with 1 or 2 aircraft on frequency. That's correct, in the UK we're also extremely careful with the word "departure" too, if giving a change of clearance just before take-off we include "Hold position. After departure..."
@ExperimentIV4 жыл бұрын
Ryan Palmer oh yeah, totally forgot about hold position! yeah, i can’t imagine it’s easy to focus with so little going on. when you’ve got regular air traffic, it’s consistent and probably feels more pressintg. when you have that sudden change from your regular pace, it can be extremely jarring. i’ve experienced similar things, though obviously not in aviation.
@theryanbard4 жыл бұрын
The Dutch officially join fish as the enemy of the podcast.
@Cynon4 жыл бұрын
Dutch fish are in a bad spot
@PanAndScanBuddy4 жыл бұрын
@@Cynon especially lutefisk and that fish that wishes it was lutefisk which is rotted and smells like the Hostel in Hostel.
@WebertHest4 жыл бұрын
@@PanAndScanBuddy You know lutefisk is not Dutch, right?
WebertHest the lutefisk is culturally dutch, you can tell by all the blackface they wear
@williamheayn3760 Жыл бұрын
When KLM first heard there was an accident involving one of their planes, they actually tried contacting Captain Feldhausen Van Zanten to lead their investigation. For some reason, he didn't pick up.
@xmlthegreat Жыл бұрын
He let his phone plan lapse, how silly of him!
@DiamondKingStudios Жыл бұрын
Now I’m thinking of the Texas City episode where they talk about the one fireman that survived the explosion, but pretend he got a text from his boss and just replied with something along the lines of “sounds rough, well good luck”
@jadebullet38844 жыл бұрын
Not to be pedantic, but we actually did shovel coal into planes and flew them during the Berlin airlift. Man that's a fun topic. The planes were flown in a state of deferred mainrianance, with things like logs reading "pilot: Engine oil light keeps coming on. MAINT: Removed bulb from engine oil light. (resolved)" Also, when KLM started their investigation prep, they actually called the pilot involved because they wanted to bring him in to help the investigation into what happened. This was, obviously, before they knew he was the one involved.
@OriginalPineapplesFoster Жыл бұрын
To clarify what you said about calling in the pilot: As I recall, they specifically called him because he was a lead investigator for situations just like this. 😂🍍
@RavenclawEaglet Жыл бұрын
@@OriginalPineapplesFoster Veldhuyzen van Zanten was the chief training captain and principal check airman with speciality in B747's. Basically if some junior pilot was being trained on the Jumbo in KLM in the 1970's he was the go-to-guy. The new duty time limits of the KLM in '77 were so strict that if van Zanten didn't turn up in Amsterdam on time with his plane on that day he would be flipping stroopwafeln the very next day outside Schiphol, seniority be damned. That stress basically turned what was usually a fairly genial man into a temperamental tyrant with extreme get-to-Amsterdam-itis. The KLM CVR even included moments where van Zanten was trying to get the flight engineer to stop stressing out the copilot and the next moment he was flooring the throttles.
@xmlthegreat Жыл бұрын
@@RavenclawEaglet Now I kinda feel bad for the guy. Only slightly.
@RoamingAdhocrat4 жыл бұрын
There was a guy convicted for intentionally derailing a train in England. Early 60s, east of England, a railway signaller with a sick curiosity about just how robust the interlocking was at the signalbox he was working. He managed to find a way to move the points while a train was moving over them at speed, derailed several coaches, killed several. He'd previously been discharged from the Royal Marines for being "hysterical and emotionally immature".
@CreeperOnYourHouse4 жыл бұрын
Roaming Adhocrat how robust was the interlocking? Did it require repairs after the incident?
@RoamingAdhocrat4 жыл бұрын
Basically the interlocking was fine unless someone with expert knowledge and malicious intent decides to derail a train with it. Given British railway safety culture they probably applied some gold-plated remedy nationwide. Stand by and I'll find a link…
@RoamingAdhocrat4 жыл бұрын
Connington South derailment of 1967 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connington_South_rail_crash
@RoamingAdhocrat4 жыл бұрын
Actually having re-read the Wikipedia article I think there's some unexplained and obscure jargon - he's quoted as saying he was "swinging" the levers and that made the points move accidentally. The interlocking won't let you clear a signal if there's something dangerous beyond it - like another train, or points set on a conflicting route. You need to provide a safe space for the train to travel into before you can clear the signal. However, if there's two routes beyond the signal and the desired one is temporarily unavailable (usually because it's full of imminently-departing train) you can set the points for the other route and clear the signal so the train can approach. When the desired route is safe, _and before the approaching train has arrived_, you can change the points to the desired route and avoid unnecessary delay. This late changing of the points is called "swinging". His defence probably wasn't that he was using the lever frame as gym equipment… (the above is a gross oversimplification of aspects of Absolute Block Signalling and clearing points, something I learned about this weekend playing SimSig. Look on their forums for "clearing point violation" for more.) (EDIT: I was mistaken. He literally told the police he was swinging on the levers and moved the points lever by mistake. A lengthy investigation found that this wasn't possibly true. BR had torn its hair out, trying to figure out how this derailment could possibly have happened, when the track and points and train all appeared to be fine.)
@pkunkbwok4 жыл бұрын
I didn't realize that was a disqualification for military service
@stupititykills4 жыл бұрын
Hi! Plane nerd here. You actually got the origin of the 747 the wrong way around. It was designed for an Air Force contract for a very large cargo plane capable of carrying intermodial containers. To do that, the nose needed to be hinged, which precluded the fuselage from being pressurized. Also, the Air Force didn't want the control linkages to be hinged, so the flight deck was placed in a pressurized hump above the cargo deck, along with the air conditioning equipment. In the end, Boeing lost the contract to what would become the C-5, however Pan-Am expressed interest in a passenger-carrying variant of the plane, with the caveat that they had to move the aircon down between the wings to make room for the bar. The bar ended up being too big, and the hump had to be enlarged to make room, so you can tell if a 747 was originally a passenger or a cargo plane by the size of the hump.
@elijaha7733 жыл бұрын
Thank you for representing the avgeek population! Your spreading of knowledge is appreciated.
@Udontsay9483 жыл бұрын
Love yr handle
@AsbestosMuffins2 жыл бұрын
and yet they would come up with endless amounts of silly things to sell the 747 to the airforce on for the next 40 years
@andrevanderleeuw80704 жыл бұрын
Scary thing is there are still a lot of Dutch people who think our VOC (the spice traders that went to Indonesia) was great because we got so rich and they gave us our "golden age". I got taught in school how glorious we apparently were, but barely anything about what we did to the Indonesians. My history teacher had to make that clear to us.
@TheImpossiBelle4 жыл бұрын
@CommandoDude acquire nutmeg, discard nutmeg for mayonnaise
@SadisticSenpai614 жыл бұрын
Why does that sound familiar? Oh yeah, that's very similar to how US history classes teach settling the territories the US currently possesses - except our actual territories ofc. If you only read the textbooks, you will never know the US _still_ has territories that haven't been made states, nor will you know how the US acquired those territories. Oh and there's zero mention of Hawaii until Dec 7, 1941 when Pearl Harbor was bombed. I remember reading about it and then pausing and asking myself, "Wait, when did the US get control of HI? They mentioned us buying AK from Russia, but never mentioned HI." There's vague references to "interior wars" with Native American tribes, but it's implied that it was mostly busy work for the US Army/Cavalry and that they only were deployed after tribes attacked settlers - you know, completely defensive.
@tardvandecluntproductions12783 жыл бұрын
I hear the history lessons are getting better these days. And with better I still mean lacking a lot.
@grmpEqweer3 жыл бұрын
Our U.S. history books, as I remember them in high school, were so sanitized they might as well have been hosed down in hand cleaner.
@ridnaw97963 жыл бұрын
As an indonesian, all i can say is fuck you, and i forgive you.
@The_Random_Aussie4 жыл бұрын
One note about the Dutch captain & the KLM plane, they were getting really close to their allowable shift hours before the mandatory rest period, as they were due to fly the plane back to Amsterdam. Hence, the captain was in a rush to beat the rapidly closing shift time window or risk major repercussions.
@SpeedbirdNine93 жыл бұрын
Hours of Service did him in.
@OriginalPineapplesFoster Жыл бұрын
Yes, this is an important point. There had recently been a change making it _illegal_ to work beyond a certain number of hours without a rest. I believe some conversations about this between the crew were captured on the voice recorder. ✌️🍍
@Riotdrone4 жыл бұрын
43:20 AHHH AALICE YOU ACTUALLY *WANT* A HEADWIND BECAUSE OF THE AIRFLOW OVER THE AILERON AAHH THANK YOU
@fitandhappy424 жыл бұрын
Love the trajectory of that train terrorism effort, if he’d actually somehow got the speed and momentum to go far enough he would have utterly decimated...the parking lot.
@wkiernan4 жыл бұрын
I think he was planning to _steer_ the train toward the ship, but he could not find where they put the steering wheel on one of those things..
@weatheranddarkness3 жыл бұрын
the most charitable possible explanation was that he he was hoping to he would be derailed by going too fast in the bend and thus have actually had a chance of a slightly different trajectory from the straight section after the bend.
@ewanhogg30683 жыл бұрын
Good. Car bad.
@Kamikrazey4 жыл бұрын
current news segment should be "There are additional problems"
@marko80954 жыл бұрын
+1
@gotnothingclever4 жыл бұрын
"The plane people who will never fly a plane" Bleak
@RoamingAdhocrat4 жыл бұрын
WTYP: we don't know much about planes lol, get mad plane nerds also WTYP: i listen to air traffic control for fun
@gobarn18774 жыл бұрын
@@RoamingAdhocrat hey! Us plane nerds can be self-aware.
@Full_Otto_Bismarck4 жыл бұрын
I dont know about other countries but the cost of getting time with an instructor in the US to learn to fly small aircraft like a Cessna isnt entirely unreasonable. If the angry plane nerds are angry because they'll never fly there really is no excuse for it.
@gobarn18774 жыл бұрын
@@Full_Otto_Bismarck Yes, but it's still expensive and the cost of upkeeping a general aviation aircraft is ridiculous. Sure you could rent one. Then you also need to store the plane somewhere, you need the avgas for the plane you need to keep your licenses by flying it often and this is all for an asset which likely won't earn you money.
@Full_Otto_Bismarck4 жыл бұрын
@@gobarn1877 Well its certainly not an impulse buy and your average joe like myself will have to save up for quite awhile but my point is its still not outside the reach of the average American to go fly a plane at least once.
@saturnusdevorans4 жыл бұрын
Alice is gonna be so upset when she goes into the churrasquería for dessert and gets some churrasco
@Ometecuhtli3 жыл бұрын
It reminds me of this scene... kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3jQkpuoaLFpZtk
@Devingreasemonkey4 жыл бұрын
Dutch guy here. yes thank you the language is absolutely horrendous and I can confirm the people here are terrified of any spice more complicated than pepper
@OriginalPineapplesFoster Жыл бұрын
This explains so much. I had been attributing my spice-free taste to neurodivergence, but it's actually a much deeper component of my genetics. Thanks!
@DiamondKingStudios Жыл бұрын
As a white American, the only time my mother uses anything other than salt or pepper in a dish is when the recipe she’s reading explicitly calls for it. The spice rack is in one of the cupboards that gets opened the least at her house. We’re not even aware of any Dutch in her ancestry this must be a broadly northern European thing. Luckily for me my father’s side is half Sicilian lol
@deeznoots62414 жыл бұрын
Fish bad, plane bad, car bad, helicopter chaotic neutral, train good. Edit:ship people good(as a ship person hell yeah)
@RoamingAdhocrat4 жыл бұрын
are you confusing helicopters with horses
@forcea14544 жыл бұрын
@@RoamingAdhocrat Horses don't exist.
@DistractedGlobeGuy Жыл бұрын
@@RoamingAdhocrat what are horses, but helicopters for cowboys?
@jgraaay182 ай бұрын
Helicopter chaotic evil. Ten thousand moving parts in loose formation, looking for a place to crash.
@ericjamieson4 жыл бұрын
Still cackling at "Geert Wilders: Boytoy of the SS"
@daltonkraft42414 жыл бұрын
Instead of a news section it could be a weekly Shake Hands With Danger Award
@JamLeGull4 жыл бұрын
I think you mean in addition to The Goddamn News, but that’s a great idea
@Full_Otto_Bismarck4 жыл бұрын
Yes please, i need more of that guitar riff in my life.
Trying to ram the cruise ship into venezuelan waters is like watching a cop on a segway trying to PIT maneuver a petrol tanker.
@blackriver25314 жыл бұрын
Im a trans girl who doesn't really put any effort into the voice thing either, you ALL make me feel more comfortable and feel more valid, thank you Alice, and all your friends who support you! Edit: I know Alice isn't necessarily transgender or at least they're still exploring themselves but they're still encouraging!
@RoamingAdhocrat4 жыл бұрын
…how did you possibly get alice's pronouns wrong tho (also, hi, welcome, solidarity, i'll delete this comment if you like, hope you're doing ok with the lockdown, my pronouns are he/him)
@blackriver25314 жыл бұрын
@@RoamingAdhocrat I've heard Alice say multiple times on this podcast stuff about potentially being non binary or something in that vein and I was trying to be sensitive by avoiding gendered pronouns. Using neutral pronouns is not "getting something wrong" especially since the given context my tone was that of understanding and admiration.
@flametitan1004 жыл бұрын
@@blackriver2531 Alice is explicit that she uses she/her, regardless of whether she's nb or not. Admiration and respecting that she might be nb are not an excuse to ignore what she asks to be referred to as.
@RoamingAdhocrat4 жыл бұрын
I mean I use they/them too when I don't know or can't reasonably guess someone's pronouns, and when talking about an abstract person ("when a user signs up, they will…"), but would never use them instead of someone's explicitly-stated choice of pronouns
@NeighborSenpai4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad this podcast makes you feel comfortable
@FriendlyCobblestone4 жыл бұрын
Can't believe Liam doesn't even hate the Netherlands for prety much inventing capitalism.
@insatsuki_no_koshou4 жыл бұрын
I was under the assumtion that capitalism emerged in northern Italy.
@FriendlyCobblestone4 жыл бұрын
@@insatsuki_no_koshou All I know is that the first stock market was in Amsterdam.
@jizburg3 жыл бұрын
Nethelands, Dutch.. same thing.
@DiamondKingStudios Жыл бұрын
I feel like capitalism’s origin story probably has to do with some monks, like so many other aspects of modern society strangely do. Like over in don0teat’s video about the Budd Company how he talks about the Cistercians running the most sophisticated metallurgy facilities in medieval Europe. I know monks were some of the first pawnbrokers out there.
@mahj4 жыл бұрын
As a Dutch person I'd like to say we probably deserved it. Also; if anyone ever comments "GEKOLONISEERD" on your videos, ban them. It's a dog whistle. (If that means banning me as well- worth it.)
@HendrikTheThird4 жыл бұрын
@Socialist Survivalist Colonized. Most people just say it for jokes, not really thinking about the connotation it has but it is still a weird edgy online identifier based on a history of conquest and oppression.
@Stijning4 жыл бұрын
Why say "gek*l*niseerd" when you can say "GENATIONALISEERD"
@HendrikTheThird4 жыл бұрын
@@Stijning O N T E I G E N D
@pedroalvarez7134 жыл бұрын
ALICE CHURRASQUERÍA MEANS THEY SELL STEAKS NOT CHURROS. CHURRASCO=STEAK
@Superbouncybubble4 жыл бұрын
This is really tragic I'm truly upset that there isn't a churro joint next to the worst disaster in civil aviation history
@excitableboy70314 жыл бұрын
DO NOT TALK ABOUT CHURROS I HAVE NOT BEEN OUTSIDE SINCE MARCH 24TH I SWEAR TO GOD I WILL LICK MY SCREEN GOD DAMN YOU
@sweetprimrose4 жыл бұрын
They might have churros for desert goddamnit or there's like a cart out front cuz after a meaty meal you want a little bit of sweet.
@do_care9194 жыл бұрын
Four comments in, we already have a freak talking about having churros for dessert. PUTOS. GUIRIS. CHURROS ARE A FUCKING BREAKFAST MEAL
@pkunkbwok4 жыл бұрын
Mmm. Steak churros.
@timmylean4 жыл бұрын
I once flew from Munich to Amsterdam on KLM and because they had to give the announcements in English, German, and Dutch, we were already landing by the time the safety announcements were done.
@DistractedGlobeGuy Жыл бұрын
Imagine if they'd just done it in Finnish...
@Prinsgezindepatriot4 жыл бұрын
Declaring war on Germany was a prerequisite to joining the early UN, so most of the world declared war on Germany during the final days of the war to be able to get in on that sweet UN juice.
@Ometecuhtli3 жыл бұрын
Is that what ruined Argentinian and Spanish economies, not getting the (IMF equivalent at the time?) pardon and getting low interest loans?
@benjaminbittle81924 жыл бұрын
KLM stands for Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij, which just means Royal Aviation Company, Inc. if anyone was intrested
@xmlthegreat Жыл бұрын
Not a real language anyway.
@Pants40964 жыл бұрын
43:25 "you don't want to like take off into a headwind" Um, ma'am, that is specifically EXACTLY like what you want to do. It's tailwind that you don't want when taking off (or landing).
@PanAndScanBuddy4 жыл бұрын
I think you mean COMRADE
@SantaFebuff4 жыл бұрын
"disclaimer: we don't know much about airplanes"
@ericjamieson4 жыл бұрын
Deliberately derailing trains used to be a whole thing in America, that's why there's a specific law against it and the penalties are so severe. In the 19th century people would derail them to rob them - later on radicals like the IWW did it as a protest. Kids would do it as a prank (early 20th c. juvenile delinquents were pretty hardcore). I think the last person to be convicted of murder by train wrecking was the guy who caused the 2005 Glendale Metrolink crash.
@erikawhelan46734 жыл бұрын
The name of the gentleman in question is Juan Manuel Álvarez. According to Wikipedia, he was acquitted of the murder-by-train-wrecking charge (Cal. Penal Code § 190.2(a)(17)(I)). Álvarez was, notably, charged in LA County Superior Court, under California law. The gentleman in the USNS Mercy case is being charged under Federal law.
@ericjamieson4 жыл бұрын
@@erikawhelan4673 Interesting. I thought he'd been convicted of it. I suppose they couldn't prove he'd specifically intended to derail the train.
@erikawhelan46734 жыл бұрын
Indeed, the jury did not believe he intended for anyone to die. However, because he was found guilty of arson, which is a felony, the jury had no choice but to convict him of felony murder.
@michlo33933 жыл бұрын
@@erikawhelan4673 Haha right! because he dowsed his jeep in gasoline.
@jadefalcon0013 жыл бұрын
@@erikawhelan4673 Makes me think of some advice I got from a professor in college. "1) Do not break the rules. 2) If you MUST break the rules, do not break more than one at a time!"
@clifford874 жыл бұрын
"Ha! I'll financially support them! That'll sure show those... transgender goofballs!" I would... like to know the thought process behind that one? Regardless, thanks WTYP, you're all real champs.
@zacharytaylor29834 жыл бұрын
Speaking of the Dutch... A.P. Hamann, the city planner of San Jose, CA was on the Pan-Am flight and died in the crash. Hamann was responsible for the city’s rapid growth in the 1950s-60s, via aggressive annexation of surrounding suburban developments. His nickname was “Dutch” Hamann.
@zacharytaylor29833 жыл бұрын
Chris p Funny enough, you know the best way for San Jose to improve traffic congestion? Build more trains.
@t.o.69533 жыл бұрын
Thank you Cincinnati Bengals coach Zac Taylor
@DiamondKingStudios Жыл бұрын
I wish this had blown up more as a comment. Liam would have probably brought it up in later episodes if it had.
@zacharytaylor2983 Жыл бұрын
@@DiamondKingStudios Yeah. But it’s one of the highest-rated KZbin comments I’ve ever posted, so I’m happy with it.
@DiamondKingStudios Жыл бұрын
@@zacharytaylor2983 that was quick. Hope you’re still doing well after two years. Around these parts in GA, the county seat of Marion Co, Buena Vista, is named in honor of one of Zachary Taylor’s most important military victories in the Mexican War, and probably what helped him get the Whig nomination for the presidency in the 1848 election.
@pedroalvarez7134 жыл бұрын
The E is never ever silent in Spanish ever, so it's tenerif-EH
@gregl66194 жыл бұрын
Well, it is in LSE. Need the cam to confirm whether they made the hand sign
@windwalker57653 жыл бұрын
Nah, things only end in "eh" in Canuckese
@michigan29743 жыл бұрын
As a pilot this episode wasn’t as painful as I thought it would be, some parts were thought like the “they probably couldn’t take off that way because of headwind” (the whole point of having more than one runway is to take off with a headwind) but beyond that and a few other small mistakes it wasn’t that bad
@TheGreatPurpleFerret3 жыл бұрын
Not a pilot but I am familiar with aviation and agree, though its understandable that people who don't know enough about aviation to think the opposite, that the opposite direction runway is for a tailwind thinking that a tailwind would be better for forward speed rather than a headwind for upward force.
@theryanbard4 жыл бұрын
Hey the pronoun checks are supposed to come before the alienating the Spanish check!
@RoamingAdhocrat4 жыл бұрын
nobody expects the Spanish alienation
@katamariroller28374 жыл бұрын
@@RoamingAdhocrat As a Spaniard, I think it´s funny how every time I reveal I am from Spain to English speakers, they will immediately try to speak in my language, usually producing a mangled mess. Nothing´s come bursting out of my abdomen, though, so I guess it´s fine.
@Redshirt2144 жыл бұрын
I vote for the new segment being called “The Gottdamn News”. This can be Episode One: “Why Are You Hitting Yourself?”.
@Redshirt2144 жыл бұрын
Also I think the English equivalent of that store would be Piggly Wiggly. Three guesses which state I’m from.
@phathumdeep4 жыл бұрын
@@Redshirt214 Kentucky?
@iannesbitt4 жыл бұрын
@@Redshirt214 south carolina
@Redshirt2144 жыл бұрын
@@iannesbitt Oh, no much more North than that ;).
@Redshirt2144 жыл бұрын
@@phathumdeep You're warm, Phil. Not there, there!
@scarylion1roar4 жыл бұрын
"Well, There's Your News" or "P.i.E.N.N.: Problems in Engineering News Network" (yep, the acronym is pronounced Peen. I think I'm funny.) or "E.G.O. News: Engineering Go Oops" (they/them)
@NuttyJakKicks4 жыл бұрын
i second E.G.O. news
@bittersweet51614 жыл бұрын
I was gonna say Well, There's Your News as well, but I like both of the other suggestions as well xD I love the "Go Oops" bit. (she/her or sometimes they/them)
@scarylion1roar4 жыл бұрын
@@bittersweet5161 my grandpa's a retired engineer (civilian corps) who worked at an army ammunitions plant, including rebuilds of the nitroglycerin factory. "Go oops" is one of his favourite technical terms, and keep your office windows open.
@kensurrency25644 жыл бұрын
E.G.O. Has so much potential!
@teslashark4 жыл бұрын
Peen? Circumcise it!
@Ormurinn4 жыл бұрын
The Naiguata thing reminds me of the Cod wars where the UK sent frigates to intimidate the Icelandic coast guard patrol boats from harassing trawlers. A bunch of them got torn up like tin cans by ramming or being rammed by the more iceberg ready patrol boats that were otherwise just armed with cannons from the 19th century. Although the Icelandic government tried to buy a Soviet frigate to use against a fellow NATO country, which is a very classic cold war Iceland move.
@flyingskier19134 жыл бұрын
Instructions unclear; bridge blew over in high winds
@flyingskier19134 жыл бұрын
It was pretty cool. You guys should do an episode on it
@scarylion1roar4 жыл бұрын
@@flyingskier1913 Don't worry, it's the next episode.
@misium4 жыл бұрын
I thought this accident was not just "a little spur of what would eventually became crew resource management". It was the sole reason for crew resource management becoming a mandatory part of civil aviation. It totally changed the culture, empowering crew members to make decisions and take action when they realize their captain had gone bonkers.
@DistractedGlobeGuy Жыл бұрын
You'd like to think that, wouldn't you? But then Air France 447 proved how little had actually changed.
@BigHenFor Жыл бұрын
@@DistractedGlobeGuy Culture - the way people do things - is the hardest thing to change in any collective effort, especially when it's inadvertently toxic and reinforced by by said bad behaviour not being controlled or being tolerated. And no-one, given the right context, is immune from stupidity. Sadly the Dutch captain lost the plot, gave his ego the lead, and killed everyone in this disaster. CRM changed the airline industry, but deference to status, or overbearing captains still has been a contributory factor to crashes after Tenerife. It just happens less. And that's better than nothing.
@BlakeBigfoot4 жыл бұрын
First major plane person moment at 43:25 when discussing takeoff direction... you ALWAYS takeoff and land into a headwind if prevailing winds exist. It increases the lift while decreasing the ground speed relative to the airspeed and allows significantly shorter takeoffs.
@effluviah75444 жыл бұрын
I followed the uploading timeline of this one on Twitter and I think in the end it took 6 hours to finally make it to a KZbin server in hell so honestly I'm just glad we can all be here, wasn't too sure we'd get to see this one lmao 👍 EDIT also I'm trans too so I'm here for my sister, fuck the haters lmao my pronouns are he/him love u صديق ✨
@effluviah75444 жыл бұрын
@ThisIsMyRealName Thank you, Comrade. ❤️
@DC4260Productions4 жыл бұрын
Two podcasts in one week. Now that's impressive.
@tomcoletti34274 жыл бұрын
i am absolutely enamored by the idea of a carefully sculpted aerodynamic fuselage being completely marred by the presence of a massive K5LA horn mounted on the roof
@d-rot3 жыл бұрын
My buddy flew a Beech King to Hawaii. Left Santa Barbara, he was copilot w/ the pilot at the beginning of Indiana Jones, Jacques. (real name Fred Sorenson, legendary pilot) Sitting on gas tanks, the GPS goes out. He wakes Fred up. Fred points at airliners above them "those are going to Hawaii. Those are going to Tahiti. Follow the ones going to Hawaii."
@NeighborSenpai4 жыл бұрын
Ok so the podcast is: Dutch people don't know how to talk property, crash a plane into an American plane then blaming the Spanish ATC for being Spanish and the American plane for being American. Can't wait for the Tacoma narrows bridge disaster
@RoamingAdhocrat4 жыл бұрын
you're too late, it happened years ago
@scarylion1roar4 жыл бұрын
It's the next episode.
@gwynjudd4 жыл бұрын
@@RoamingAdhocrat spoiler alert please
@stargazer794 жыл бұрын
Well one of the things making the Dutch captain impatient was a duty time limit.. if they didn't take off before a certain time and complete the flight, then KLM rules would mean they couldn't fly and a relief crew would need to be flown down to take over the aircraft, which would cost the airline for the relief flight and hotel costs for the passengers(and the captain's rep of course.) Also, according to the rules of the day, the visibility restriction should have caused the crew to abort the takeoff (below minimums)
@franciscoduarteauthor4 жыл бұрын
Ie. There was no way that day would end well.
@DiamondKingStudios Жыл бұрын
I wonder how much of Reagan’s cracking down on the airline workers for striking was inspired by a vague memory of the time limit and the Tenerife disaster.
@GorgeDawes Жыл бұрын
I’ve always felt the focus on which exit the PanAm was supposed to take was a bit of red herring. The fact is, the tower controller had no way of knowing where on the runway the PanAm aircraft was without them reporting their position over the radio. At no stage did they report being clear of the runway, so the tower controller never issued a takeoff clearance. The fact that the other flight took off without being cleared to do so was the ultimate cause of the accident.
@Furore23234 жыл бұрын
News name - WASH HANDS WITH DANGER
@scarylion1roar4 жыл бұрын
DONT SPIT WITH DANGER
@R._B._Victor_Hugo_Ashford4 жыл бұрын
My roommate is a bridge guy, and I have recommended this podcast to him multiples times, but because he's working he hasn't listened to an episode yet. Even though he loves him some engineering disasters.
@deeznoots62414 жыл бұрын
Reginald Benedict Victor Hugo Ashford he’ll cross that bridge when he gets to it
@NeighborSenpai4 жыл бұрын
5 minutes into the podcast and we already have someone attempting to do a train 9/11, seems good so far
@teslashark4 жыл бұрын
Oh god, as fortold by the Grenfell episode.
@idcanthony92863 жыл бұрын
This should be the like top review comment for the entire show.
@DiamondKingStudios Жыл бұрын
I’m getting flashbacks from the previous episode about the _Federal Express_ wreck in DC Union Station, 1953.
@phathumdeep3 жыл бұрын
I recognize that flying is safer than driving. It's just that if you die while flying, you Extremely die.
@DistractedGlobeGuy Жыл бұрын
Whereas if you die from driving, it might take several years of being like Jacqueline Saburido. I guess if a trip is going to kill me, I'd rather it get the job finished thoroughly and efficiently.
@dexterpoindexter3583 Жыл бұрын
@Phil Hodgins Extremely dying... It's a nightmare for many. 🛬🔥 All those who Moderately died in ground vehicle crashes can take comfort in this... hm? 😪 🤦♂️ ⚰
@xmlthegreat2 жыл бұрын
The radio thing is because older radios used Superheterodynes, which to simplify is basically a wire with current passing through it, and to be tuned it has to resonate at the frequency it's trying to catch. Basically it's an active component. I don't remember why exactly this is bad (not sure if this is constructive/destructive interference or solstice else entirely) but it means two transmissions occurring at the same time will overload the circuit and cause it to produce a single tone. This is the first time a piece of knowledge from my communications engineering class has been useful, especially since I dropped out of college at that point.
@GunnarMiller9 ай бұрын
It's actually the opposite. AM is used for aircraft communications because multiple simultaneous transmissions can be heard at once, whilst a stronger FM signal completely supresses a weaker signal due to what's called the capture effect.
@EvelynnEleonore4 жыл бұрын
Seeing an empty comment section on youtube several refreshes apart is an uncanny valley experience, for anyone wondering. Feeling like I'm the first person to the arctic circle or something. Such peace. such quiet
@martinda74464 жыл бұрын
That was what my high street was just like...
@EvelynnEleonore4 жыл бұрын
oh fuck i didnt even consider the fact that i had a fully socially distanced comment section to myself
@patrickminer7017 Жыл бұрын
here's a BRIDGE GUY listening from Madrid! I work for a Spanish structure/bridge design firm, I was a SEPTA and BEN FRANKLIN BRIDGE engineer guy for a good 7-8 years...fell in love eith this podcast on the PENN CENTRAL episode ✓
@ClaudiaNW4 жыл бұрын
A suggestion: Have you considered doing an episode on Thomas Heatherwick, Boris Johnson's favourite artist/designer/architect/real-life counterpart to Bloody Stupid Johnson? Apparently he has been responsible for a succession of engineering disasters including an extremely expensive pavement in Newcastle, an art installation in Manchester that had giant metal spikes falling off it, a London bus where the upper deck reached near-fatally high temperatures, and of course the ill-fated Garden Bridge.
@OkSharkey4 жыл бұрын
The Dutch do have a certain something when it comes to water barrier engineering, but damn if I can't quite put my finger on it
@DistractedGlobeGuy Жыл бұрын
**in
@MrJohndoakes4 жыл бұрын
55:00 They can blank each other out because aircraft use AM-mode VHF or UHF radio, so only one coherent transmission can be made at a time on a specific frequency. Only the tower can hear all of the various frequencies, including the ground crew. The Soviets were using 10 meter and 6 meter band transceivers, so you could hear Moscow's airports on ham radio in West Germany if the ionosphere was good.
@GunnarMiller9 ай бұрын
It's actually the opposite. AM is used for aircraft communications because multiple simultaneous transmissions can be heard at once, whilst a stronger FM signal completely supresses a weaker signal due to what's called the capture effect.
@danielodette60134 жыл бұрын
"That's the Goddamn News" is a perfectly good name for a news segment, I say stick with it
@mbilbo4 жыл бұрын
"A quasi facist dictatorship." - "How quasi?" "A four."
@matt395814 жыл бұрын
"this week in Your Problem"
@J0NES2504 жыл бұрын
"Your Problem This Week"?
@global-sequence4 жыл бұрын
you guys should do the Tacoma narrows bridge bit but eke out a small fact about it each episode and release the Tacoma narrows bridge episode as a cohesive compilation of all those bits.
@mikeblatzheim27974 жыл бұрын
25:30 They did actually do that during the Berlin airlift. Considering the weight of coal, it was more like 5 bags in the back of a DC-3 though.
@Kiriduala4 жыл бұрын
Segment name proposal: “ShipTalk with Captain Alice”
@shadeitplease7383 Жыл бұрын
Damn did I just go back in time to the birth of the god damned news?
@shtehfaw Жыл бұрын
"The God Damn News" has a decent ring to it, but I don't think it'll catch on.
@TuckerWhite94 Жыл бұрын
What's next? Safety Third?!
@heavymetalcommy4 жыл бұрын
I have waited for a podcast that mixes left wing analysis of disasters and Texian folk singers, the mention of Townes Van Zandt has made that mix. We are now one step closer to the technological singularity and i thank you for that!
@sparkpenguin4 жыл бұрын
$1500 will more than cover the transport fee from FL to you if you want my 91 firebird for $1. you'll even have enough left over in your budget to fix the shot electric. when it DOES run, it's LIKE a pickup truck. he's a burly boy so you can tow, the tailgate flattens so you can haul, it smells like coal, and it's only a dollar. what's your delay, liam. future episodes don't write themselves.
@KevinSiebert4 жыл бұрын
This is a good investment
@Zizzily4 жыл бұрын
Boeing actually came up with body gear steering for this issue on the 747-400. A Boeing 747-400 has a turning radius of ~150 feet/46 meters, which is pretty impressive and almost exactly the width of the runway at Tenerife Airport.
@Ometecuhtli3 жыл бұрын
So the captain asked us all to move to the right wing just for the lulz...
@laceneil45703 жыл бұрын
Now I'm imagining a passenger on KLM shutting the window shutter and shouting, "Change the channel! Change the channel!" like Zangeif in the Streetfighter movie, but in Dutch.
@fanboycrossing4 жыл бұрын
WTYP - Officially shipping ship people.
@CaptainProton1004 жыл бұрын
*plane nerd voice* actually, taking off into a headwind is good because it means that you already have some air speed, so you need less runway to accelerate to take off speed.
@joshuahadams Жыл бұрын
Clips of bush planes just kinda floating with a good headwind are always fun. Saw one that was pretty much just sitting in one spot when the pilot matched the airspeed.
@dpa50974 жыл бұрын
"I heard the traffic controllers were too busy making paellas to do their jobs right" "well I heard the Dutch pilot wasn't paying attention because he was too busy looking for his blackface marker"
@scrungly4 жыл бұрын
“the goddamn news” is an extremely good name for the segment
@whoever64583 жыл бұрын
Speaking of overweight planes... I had some friends who brewed beer and some other friends who brewed Pisco when I lived in Perú and I was trying to bring back a bunch of alcohol. I didn't want the pressure change under the plane to fuck up my bottles so I filled my carry-on suitcase with bottles of beer and Pisco. Then, I made sure to pretend like I was fat and not strong, which usually works, especially if they also take you for a women. As a result, they didn't weigh my carry on when I checked in and then I just lifted it into the overhead compartment and acted like it weighed maybe 20 pounds. It probably actually weighed at least 80 pounds but I pulled it off because I'll be damned if I'm not getting my boos with me. Note that this was after the attack on the world trade center but before they stopped letting you bring your own water on the plane. In any case, I think I got a gallon of Pisco and at least six beers that were either liter or liter and a half bottles. I had some clothes in there too but it was mostly to prevent the bottle clanking problem since all of these fine alcohols were in glass bottles.
@jizburg3 жыл бұрын
The "communication bug" is that only one person can send at a time. That is why talking on a radio is highly ritualized. You start with a virtual handshake were you ask for someone and they say that they are listening. That is a signal for everyone else to shut the fuck upp on the radio and wait their turn to talk. And every time you say something you repeat who you are and who you are talking to and end every sentence with "over" and the last message is "over and out" and then someone else can talk. Example: "PA123, PA123" "PA123 over" "From ATC to PA123 you are cleared for take off over" "PA123 to ATC Roger, i am cleared for takeoff over" "ATC Over and out" If they would have just followed basic fucking radio protocol and waited their turn to talk for like 3 seconds then this could have been avoided.
@GunnarMiller9 ай бұрын
It's actually the opposite. AM is used for aircraft communications because multiple simultaneous transmissions can be heard at once, whilst a stronger FM signal completely supresses a weaker signal due to what's called the capture effect.
@jizburg9 ай бұрын
@@GunnarMiller okay? I did not know that. But radio protocoll is still important and stops communication errors from occuring.
@EvelynnEleonore4 жыл бұрын
sometimes, you get here before the video does, and that's ok
@randomjunk19773 жыл бұрын
"There are only two things I cannot stand: people who dont respect other cultures, and the Dutch." -Austin Powers' Dad
@jorgeguimaraes88202 жыл бұрын
as for the "pass only on the left joke"; that's actually a thing while flying. there's a standard way to deviate (always to the left, if I remember correctly) in the case of a possible head on collision. that is without any atc advising VFR etc
@alstorer4 жыл бұрын
I mean they built the airport there as it was a flatish bit (rare on that island) and close to the capital. I'm not yet at the point of collision, but one of the things with Sud airport is that they has to heavily engineer the land to make a flat bit. It is however on a part of the island that is in a desert rather than a cloud forest. And is close to the bit where all the northern europeans (including brits) go to drink crap lager and eat unadventurous food.
@alstorer4 жыл бұрын
so the actual geography- North airport is sat at the lowest point between the massive mountain that makes up most of the mountain, and the small mountain that is the north east end. These days the capital has merged up the hill to make it a single urban area (mmm sprawl) . But yeah, the north side and north west corner are very wet. Thus fog and clouds. The south side/south west end is meanwhile a desert which is why when I went to cycle up it on that side it poured with rain
@ehsn4 жыл бұрын
I'm from the Canary Islands. What you wrote is accurare. There is a joke here that says that when they were on the early planning of the airport, they gave a guy the task to find a good location to build it. After a while, the expert returned a map with a big red X placed in where the airport is currently located. So they started to build the airport there, and one day the expert called them angrily when he noticed the construction works. "What the hell are you doing?" he told them. "Why are you building the airport there?" "Well, we are using the location you gave us..." they replied. "No, no, no, no" said the expert "read the goddamn map legend. The X meant 'anywhere but here', you morons"
@stanislavkostarnov21574 жыл бұрын
you forgot the fact that the tower controllers in Los-Rodeos were not really controllers at all!!! they were some fairly random dudes that volunteered to sit in the control tower for the weekend (members of some local aeronautic fans club )... no knowledge of large airport operations, part of no system, they were something like an intern but with 0 supervision & given formal training at all. the airport was formally considered closed to traffic but for 2 small local planes a day. also, the taxiways used in the day were numbered using two different systems, one used for civilian operators, the other for the military and GA flights that sometimes used the airport. one system had was to name the exit Taxiways : Charlie-Alpha, Charlie-west, Charlie-Charlie, & Charlie-Delta, another was, Taxiway 1, 2, 3, 4 (though the tower often called them C1, C2, C3 to distinguish them from taxiways A1 and B1 & B2 which lead parallel to the runway... however this was not on any of the Charts); more so... the two systems started from different sides of the runway, so that the taxiway called 3(or C3) was Charlie-west not Charlie-Delta (the third taxiway in the direction of PanAm's movements)
@Ometecuhtli3 жыл бұрын
Damn, as if watching football and having a burro for comfort wasn't enough ...
@ExperimentIV4 жыл бұрын
honestly if you needs someone who knows a lot about planes for an episode someday... i have read far too much about plane incidents and almost know what i’m talking about so i think i am definitely qualified
@ExperimentIV4 жыл бұрын
also im good at pronouncing all sorts of dumb shit and it’s perfect for dunking on
@ExperimentIV4 жыл бұрын
also also, she/her
@nearlyautomated59283 жыл бұрын
going thru WTYP pod from newest to oldest and its amazing to see the birth of the God Damn News in this one. Also: HEAVILY disappointed that they never called 747s AirTrucks. wtf smh
@icarus3134 жыл бұрын
When I saw the word 'Tenerife' I smashed that Like button so hard that my finger nearly punched through my phone screen. This is the kind of quality content that dreams are made of. Love you guys!
@raptormaster6664 жыл бұрын
You'd think ramming something named "Resolute" was a bad idea to begin with, if I be honest. :P Score one for the Icebreakers.
@nathaniellindner3134 жыл бұрын
Not to mention, cruise ships are serious vessels. RMS Olympic was, a century ago, (accidentally) rammed by the cruiser HMS Hawke, and the result was the prow of the Hawke was completely mangled while the Olympic suffered comparatively a good deal less structural damage. And modern warships don't have belt armor. Cruise ships (even at moderate size) are going to win any shoving match against anything outside of serious shipping vessels, and yeah the icebreaker part certainly helps.
@Ometecuhtli3 жыл бұрын
Maybe they confused it with the false cognate "resolano", or sunbathing spot...
@lfraser71284 жыл бұрын
I know the perfect siren noise for you guys, the Ontario emergency alert noise
@abandonedchannel2814 жыл бұрын
L Fraser Can confirm, it’s fucking earrape
@MrxstGrssmnstMttckstPhlNelThot4 жыл бұрын
Pls no it's such an awful noise and we use it for every kind of alert natural disaster potential and Amber alerts. In the summer it can be so horrifying when you hear it and go "oh god oh fuck is there gonna be a tornado? A flood?" But then it's just some shitty missing kid on the other side of this massive fucking province I couldn't help even if I wanted to! Hate that noise! So it would make a perfect irritating siren for the Goddamned News segment.
@MrxstGrssmnstMttckstPhlNelThot4 жыл бұрын
Seriously listen to this shit and freak out before the alert is read out telling you whether you're going to definitely die or some kid just got lost in North Bay or some shit! kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJCpnoCPo7qWe7M Use different sounds for these things AH!
@gonzoengineering48943 жыл бұрын
If you can dig up the 20s central committee transcripts, there is some premium Soviet ice cream discourse. 1 line laser etched into my brain is "We are not for ice cream production because we want children to have treats, we are for ice cream production because it is good and nutritious food."
@Rolo-Tony4 жыл бұрын
Future episode: The US presidential election
@r2dezki4 жыл бұрын
Which one?
@PanAndScanBuddy4 жыл бұрын
@@r2dezki maybe just the whole system.
@lithostheory4 жыл бұрын
Democratic primary
@loplopthebird18604 жыл бұрын
RIP Sanders :((((
@JohnThelin4 жыл бұрын
Because Dutch is ridiculous, Geert Wilders' first name is pronounced "chaert", which I only mention because it sounds more or less like the Swedish word for "arse".