Well There's Your Problem | Episode 32: Salang Tunnel Fire Part 2

Today we talk about goats and bridges and zinc coffins.
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[@fanboycrossing]

Australia thankfully replaced "God Save the Queen" in 1984, unfortunately it was with "Advance Australia Fair" a song no one in this country knows the lyrics to... mostly because it's dull and trash. The annoying thing we could have had "Waltzing Matilda" which is about a guy stealing sheep and running away from the cops, which feels way more Australian.

[@ClaudiaNW]

I know the lyrics to the first two verses of Advance Australia Fair. So clearly I'm more patriotic than most Australians. Even though I have no connection to Australia and have never set foot there. It is a garbage anthem, but not the world's worst. (I know a lot of national anthems by heart, because I am autistic and weird.)

[@crptpyr]

I thought Waltzing Matilda was the anthem bc I grew up watching rugby

[@joshuahadams]

Is sheep theft a common theme in former colony music? “Aunt Martha’s Sheep” is a popular Newfie song that ends with “We might have stole the sheep boys, but the Mountie ate the most.”

[@XavierTheNeonTiger]

@@joshuahadams Not much else to steal in those days

[@MisterHalt]

All you need to do is sing Advance Australia Fair to the tune of Working Class Man and it becomes a great anthem.

[@GaldirEonai]

"It sounds like a carbon monoxide leak in the Star Wars cantina" paints an _extremely_ vivid picture.

[@theryanbard]

"Redlining the goat" sounds like a euphemism.

[@RichardGadsden]

I suppose it's better than redpilling the goat.

[@landonito4616]

Part 1: Random words Part 2: Shit goes nuts

[@matheusfigueiredo3995]

swear to god it sounds like a dog whistle to me

[@Madhouse_Media]

Yes... Sounds like something ungentlemanly West Virginians do when nobody's looking.

[@Hahahalive]

I do genuinely love that this ep is 2.5hrs of insight into the geographic, political, and historical landscape of the region then just "and we're pretty sure this tunnel caught fire at some point. It was bad."

[@Deimonik1]

I learnt a lot about goats.

[@imsmolandangery4274]

On national anthems, Irish is best because 1 no one knows it, we just shout 2 it's in irish (the best language) 3 the anti-english sentiment

[@MrxstGrssmnstMttckstPhlNelThot]

I looked up Irish national anthem here on KZbin to hear it. 4th result was Come Out Ye Black and Tans. Tiocfaidh ár lá!

[@dariusjonna]

What about Iraq? It's Cristina Aguilera's Genie in the Bottle transliterated into ye olde Beduin Arabic. Shit slaps.

[@jayde_d]

the only bad thing in the national anthem is the fact fianna fáil took their name from the lyrics and they're the most miserable fucking tans away from home i stg, fucking landlords

[@RichardGadsden]

As long as you're talking about Amhrán na bhFiann and not fucking Ireland's Call. It's amazing that there are three bad anthems in the Six nations (God Save The Queen, Flower of Scotland and Ireland's Call) and two of them far better alternatives available in Jerusalem and Amhrán na bhFiann as well. Can't really argue with the Marseillaise, Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau or Il Canto degli Italiani, though...

[@ClaudiaNW]

Is the English version that runs "Soldiers are we, whose lives are pledged to Ireland" normally used? Or is only the Irish version official? (I know the English one from memory - I know many national anthems from memory because they have been a lifelong obsession for me - but I haven't managed to memorise the Irish one.)

[@kensurrency2564]

WTYP - advertised as an engineering podcast but delivers mostly history and comedy. I love it.

[@nunyabusiness7278]

The best part is when you die in every disaster they've featured on the podcast.

[@pdeitz7]

Roz does his best despite Liam and Alices interjections. Their older episodes were much heavier on the engineering. Still love and listen to everything they do though!

[@maean7410]

engineering is useless without the socio economic background, its just jerking off to cool bridges which is good on its own but not very helpful

[@sunyavadin]

The Tacoma Narrows Activate Windows Watermark Disaster.

[@t.o.6953]

Our national anthem should've been John Brown's Body/battle hymn of the republic. It would piss off confederates and it slaps

[@knightofficer]

Battlecry of freedom should also be on the list, that one is beautiful and the lyrics are fairly easy to remember

[@stiltpuppy]

So I came down here to post this because this is the correct answer, but I didn't give you a like specifically because right now the counter is at 69 and I won't mess with that. ...it's also Blood on the Risers, Solidarity Forever, and the Mustang Song from Regular Car Reviews. so there really is a lyric set for everybody.

[@t.o.6953]

@@stiltpuppy i appreciate that thank you

[@GigasGMX]

As long as the split keeps falling along these "Part 1: the setup, Part 2: the actual disaster" lines, I'm fine with it.

[@gunmunz]

I love how the podcast ironically derails at the mention of 'train meat'

[@K-o-R]

[Shed 17 flashbacks intensify]

[@TrashHeapCustodian]

The entire lack of any substance on what actually happened with the fire due to soviet misinformation stuff is like an excellent meta joke for this entire two part three hour extravaganza, and I love it

[@AaronMk91]

My favorite thing about the Soviet-Afghan war is how the CIA and the Pakistani ISI replaced the entirety of the Afghan economy with opium and heroin. Quite literally.

[@phathumdeep]

after performing my usual pre-podcast research, i was surprised to learn you had only chosen to cover the Salang Tunnel fire, and not the whole damn tunnel. The wiki alone lists 4 major disasters with huge loss of life. This thing is a freaking death trap!

[@dariusjonna]

Behind a horrendous tunnel disaster, lies another worse disaster.

[@TheGolux]

It felt like it was mostly about the tunnel, in fact

[@phathumdeep]

@@TheGolux good point, but there were other disasters therin they could've covered outside the scope of the Soviet-Afghan war. Maybe we'l get more in a Salang II: Return to Kabul-type thing or so down the road

[@kaycashew]

Making a Train Meat 🚂 🍖 stew for dinner tonight ! The traditional seasoning is “spicy rocks”

[@christopherbruderle684]

I read this before starting the episode and I thought I was going insane.

[@mirkwoodian]

JUSTIN (July 2020): "No one's ever successfully done any military intervention in Afghanistan, we'll be the first." NARRAtOR (August 2021): "They were not."

[@douglasgraebner1831]

The year is 2049 and the world’s first Podcast-based regime celebrates its 25th anniversary in the Pennsylvania Secret Service HQ at Herat.

[@heheheiamasuperstarcatgirl8485]

Podcaster Democracy ​@@douglasgraebner1831

[@Martin-xd4jl]

Good lord, the whole 'train meat' conversation had me crying with laughter.

[@raycearcher5794]

Animal based transport has been neglected in the modern world, and I'm not sure why. Imagine how pleasant trips to the grocery would be if, instead of just jumping in your minivan, you put on a comfy straw hat and walked your clever little donkey down there.

[@dylanchouinard6141]

And is there anything more aesthetic than bolting down a road on a horse in the middle of the night?

[@valosonthor]

Alas, instead of walking my clever donkey to the grocery, I can only shuffle my dumb ass to the shop.

[@GoodLordBagel]

Joe probably has some great X 100 grandfather that was stuck fighting with Alexander in Afghanistan.

[@Jwend392]

NBC actually did a TV show back in 1979 set aboard a nuclear powered broad gauge passenger train called Supertrain. The show flopped so hard and lost so much money, between this and the cancellation of their coverage of the 1980 Summer Olympics due to the Western boycott, it almost killed the network.

[@joshuahadams]

Iirc if you did the math it would be doing 80mph and still be on schedule despite being able to cruise at 180mph. No one bothers doing the math. Even then, it’s listed speed is a little bit slower than the TGV, which started service two years after Supertrain aired and was ~technically~ nuclear powered, if only by the fact that France has a bunch of nuclear plants for the overhead lines to draw from.

[@antivanti]

The US national anthem actually fits perfectly. It's a song that anyone can attempt but very few are actually capable of achieving. Just like the American Dream...

[@CommieGIR]

I always got nightmares from Thomas when they are driving through scrapyards where other trains are being scrapped, effectively making them rotting corpses out in the open.

[@skeletonwizard708]

"So anyway the Soviets said nothing happened." "End the podcast there!" [USSR THEME BLARES] You guys are always great but this episode of Joke Free Podcast (Without Jokes) is freaking FIRE.

[@scorinth]

Could not have picked a better moment to return to the conversation.

[@johncarter7670]

My French teacher's son put the French national anthem lyrics on her phone and she thought she had been hacked by ISIS because of how violent it is.

[@ericjamieson]

Yeah it's funny when people criticize the Star Spangled Banner for being violent and militaristic when there are plenty of national anthems that are way worse.

[@Yora21]

The French Republics have a very colorful history. Which is also the reason they lose their shit and start protesting every three to four months. Rioting is part of their political culture and oldest traditions.

[@kjj26k]

@UCXSAGs22SsMin3y4zZAXI0Q That's Badass. And so many only ever see them as cowards... >:(

[@scorinth]

@@kjj26k I can't see what you're replying to, but I'm reminded of Forgotten Weapons' "Only dropped once" poster that puts a different spin on that old joke. Of course, Ian's fascination with French firearms may have something to do with it, but even so...

[@PanAndScanBuddy]

*Will Smith voice* Whoo!

[@airborneninja]

the nuclear ramjet spraying radiation everywhere and turning into a cloud of fallout when it crashes was actually a design feature of Project Pluto, the nuke firing nuclear powered cruise missile

[@thawhiteazn]

Jesus Christ Alice wasn’t joking about the Saudis butchering the Russian anthem. My high school orchestra was a damn sight better than that.

[@abandonedchannel281]

Anyone’s High School could beat them, the Saudi’s performance was worse then my Middle School band

[@Cincinnatus358]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6HGYoekj7uhetE

[@russianbear0027]

I've heard people say that it had to have been on purpose to slight putin No idea if that's actually the case.

[@thawhiteazn]

D K possibly, but they also butchered the Star Spangled Banner during a previous event for Trump. I think they might just be bad.

[@hendrikvanleeuwen9110]

The only surprise is that Putin didn't declare war on the spot! (I wouldn't have blamed him, either!)

[@georgemachappy]

I love the podcast continuity of the “we’re gonna Lac-Mégantic their ass” joke👨‍🍳👌

[@yedoom]

48:50 as someone with an archeology adjacent degree I can assure you most modern digs are "salvage archeology" where someone is building a road over some ancient burial ground of some description. I wish I had a joke

[@WingsStrings]

Locomotive fois gras is when you hook up the automatic stoker to a grain hopper

[@tangledfish]

Salang, farewell, auf Wiedersehen, good night...

[@colonelgraff9198]

To you, and you, and you and you and I

[@fien111]

Oh shit, fire I see! CYKA BLYAT IDI NAHOY!

[@ClaudiaNW]

National anthems (and political anthems) are one of my special interests and I can sing many of them from memory. God Save The Queen is a historically popular tune for national anthems. It is currently used for the national anthem of Liechtenstein (Oben am jungen Rhein) and used to be used for the anthem of imperial Germany. I agree that it sucks, however. At least it's not as bonkers as the national anthem of Andorra, which begins "The great Charlemagne, my father, liberated me from the Saracens..." As for communist anthems, you can't beat The Internationale (which technically counts as a national anthem because it was used as the USSR anthem until Hymn of the Soviet Union was written). The French original is the best. The British English version is not great, but I do have a soft spot for the verse that runs "No more deluded by reaction / On tyrants only we'll make war! / The soldiers too will take strike action / They'll break ranks and fight no more! / And if those cannibals keep trying / To sacrifice us to their pride / We soon shall hear the bullets flying / We'll shoot the generals on our own side!"

[@eagletanker]

I prefer the billy Bragg version, much easier to sing.

[@brotlowskyrgseg1018]

I'm going to watch this video with some reservations due to the many unfairly disparaging and needlessly demeaning comments about goats and goat based transportation in the first part. Needless to say you are going to lose a subscriber should I find out that any goats were harmed in the making of this podcast.

[@dariusjonna]

Goats suck.

[@yedoom]

That are posting cringe and will lose goatscriber

[@SadisticSenpai61]

You can come hang out on my dad's cousin's goat farm to recover, if you like. But only if you get registered as a paramedic for the county. She's currently the only registered paramedic in the county - and she's also a volunteer cuz they can't afford to pay her. Oh and our state is a national hotspot for C19 too...

[@jsone42]

2+ hours in a podcast 2-parter: Wasn't this about a tunnel?

[@robin8404]

We're not considering one important factor with train meat, which is not cooking the switcher engine in the grease of the freight locomotive

[@Robocopnik]

Mmmmhhhmmm, spicy beef yogurt. Also, on the topic of Gundams and Communism, G Gundam has a Cuban Gundam piloted by a guy named "Frank Gastro", and it's head is modeled after a green ridgeway cap, and it bravely helps defend the people of Earth in the big final battle.

[@TrickyMagican]

Oh if the podcast length is for selfish reasons then I'm fine with it. Sustainable podcasting is the way of the future.

[@evamiller4886]

These were funny and informative episodes, but it’s honestly kind of amazing they were about three hours combined and we got maybe five sentences on the fire just saying it may or may not have happened.

[@petebutler7990]

1:10:40: What you're describing is Project Pluto, also known as SLAM, or Supersonic Low Altitude Missile. It is about a thousand percent more insane that what you're hinting at. Yes, it was a nuclear powered ramjet -- it would have gulped down air and use a fission reaction to superheat it and blast it out the end. Apparently, you can get a pretty solid thrust:mass ratio out of a nuclear reactor when you skip bullshit like "shielding." That is merely where the fun begins. It wasn't a "missile," in the sense that the entire vehicle was meant to hit something. It was a drone -- an automated bomber. It was meant to fly over the target, spit out a nuclear bomb, and proceed to the next target. To evade detection, it was meant to fly low -- very low. And very, very fast -- "Supersonic." So what you have is a cruise missile (fitted with the finest automated guidance the 1960's had to offer) approximately the size of a locomotive (trains good!) flying at treetop level at three times the speed of sound, occasionally buzzing cities and shitting a nuclear warhead onto them, spewing Chernobyl-level radiation as it goes. Once it's done distributing gifts, it can then just buzz around the countryside riding its own perpetual atomic fart until either the fuel exhausts (and given that it's powered by reactor-grade uranium or plutonium, that's gonna take a minute) or the airframe collapses. They got as far as building and test-firing the engine before the project ended when nobody was able to provide a satisfactory answer to one question: How do we test it? (One of the proposals was to just put it on a tether and let it fly around in circles in the desert. Remember: it's approximately the size of a locomotive and meant to travel at three times the speed of sound. As one of the engineers associated with the project put it, "That's some tether.") I expect the episode on Project Pluto to span at least three installments as you spiral into digressions as a coping mechanism for the pure insanity you're discussing.

[@jbarbeau92]

America’s anthem should be Battle Hymn of the Republic, it’s the same tune as John Brown’s Body. Shit, just make it John Brown’s Body. And then it just sets us up for a transition to Solidarity Forever.

[@dylanchouinard6141]

Yeah, but the Battle Hymn of the Republic is also a deeply Christian song.

[@chancekahle2214]

@@dylanchouinard6141 The United States is a Christian country. If we ever build a socialist state on the corpse of this empire, we can give it a secular anthem, but a Christian anthem fits the USA perfectly.

[@Corvicula1979]

Alice having the whatchamacallit that plays sounds clips is a goddamn menace and I love it. Never change.

[@timmirkes7178]

"Hot tunnel time machine"... Comedy perfection.

[@__-jt4tv]

I'm glad to be working from home at the moment as I was practically crying at my desk with laughter at the train veal chat...

[@nerowulfee9210]

This is what happens when you redline too much goats in a tunnel.

[@AnonyDave]

I feel like the ultimate conclusion to the Tacoma narrows joke would be to record an episode on the Tacoma narrows bridge. However the episode would be on anything except the Tacoma narrows bridge disaster

[@probablynovideoshere]

So a normal episode

[@michaelj7069]

This reminds me of giggling endlessly in the back of my history class with my best friend.

[@SadisticSenpai61]

I'm now wishing I'd asked my former coworker what the proper term ppl from Afghanistan use to refer to themselves. He was a translator for the US military, which is why he, his wife, and his 2 yr old daughter got approved for a green card. Apparently, it was a near thing too - if it hadn't been for several of the soldiers that he'd worked with pestering their higher-ups to get him and his family to safety, he might have gotten declined. She/her PS He spoke like 27 different languages, none of which were Arabic.

[@scarylion1roar]

Listening to Justin rant about the Amish while I'm transcribing a Pa. Dutch recipe book from 1973 for my father, thinking "Yeah, and this food doesn't endear them to me either."

[@effluviah7544]

Holy shit, my family is PA Dutch on my dad's side. How many uses of grease can you count? The worst I've ever seen was grease cake. Like, confectionary cake, but with grease for some reason. Edit: GREASE ICING, IT WAS THE GREASE ICING

[@scarylion1roar]

@@effluviah7544 sooooooo much grease, but no grease icing. The top four worst bits for me are: ".... Add butter for zest.", the Variety Meats recipes, Orange Mincemeat Squares, and the Philadelphia Pepper Pot.

[@wntsumcandy]

@@scarylion1roar butter for zest good lord who knew my mom was PA Dutch eh?

[@OddLeah]

@@effluviah7544 I thought Mennonite cooking was bad, with butter, cream, flour/potatoes, and the fattiest meats being the main components, but at least I've never seen grease icing!

[@alexanderglast1057]

I’ve been looking for a podcast talking about the Soviet-Afghan war for a long time, thank you comrades

[@RichardGadsden]

"911 what's your emergency" is interesting, because the UK version is "999, which emergency service do you require, Police, Fire, Ambulance or Coastguard?" I was expecting that gag to be "999, which service do you require, Police, Fire, Goat Fire, Ambulance or Coastguard?" [Also, 911 dispatchers actually dispatch services; 999 operators just patch you through to the appropriate dispatcher]

[@user-me8hc3bs7i]

Cars are almost all 2 tons or greater in weight these days. Original mini coopers and 1970’s era civics were in the single ton range.

[@ArninoStorm]

Never activate Windows.

[@rileye9599]

"Tchotchkes to Kabul" is the best Jawbreaker spinoff band

[@uberente]

nuclear boy scout OD'd on fentanyl, although he probably had cancer too. =/

[@alexgallagher4594]

Wut. I remember reading about him in boys life

[@alexgallagher4594]

Wait no that was the kid in Texarkana instead.

[@Michael-lq3vc]

"Let's conclude this before I have to split it in half" ... hm

[@alicecaldwell-kelly9530]

whoops

[@ottovonbiscuit132]

I think we need a WTYP: Stalinium Edition at some point. With 200% More Soviet Anthem and The East is Red in every episode

[@davidv8825]

You crawl through the Salang Tunnel and it takes you 33 years into the past or the future.

[@GelidGanef]

Well this comment section just got dark

[@malcolmking752]

“Ghostly hardbass” is now one of my favorite phrases

[@TemplarOnHigh]

3:00 - In defense of the Star Spangled Banner's Revolutionary credentials, it does have a verse about killing the British and washing the ground with their blood until their footsteps are gone.

[@SofaKingShit]

The Blood Spattered Banner is all about the joy of battle isn't it? Like most countries put something in their anthem about refreshingly broad beaches or tall mountains and how everyone considers that the whole place is just downright groovy, but the USA seems to have come from it the other way.

[@alanhorton7300]

The song "Hail, Pennsylvania" re-uses the tune from the Tzarist Russian national anthem.

[@sergeykuzmichev8064]

The tsarist national anthem is pretty much a straight rip of god save the king

[@alanhorton7300]

@@sergeykuzmichev8064 It depends on whether you're talking about "Bozhe Tzarya Khrani" or "Molitva Ruskikh." kzbin.info/www/bejne/l6nMoJSCrr-Db9E

[@chaeburger]

Hi! I'm an archaeologist. The work done by archaeologists at the fort moments before destruction is called Salvage Archaeology. It's shockingly common. For example, all the reservoirs built by the Tennessee Valley Authority all had an absolute flurry of salvage archaeology done right before it flooded. Like, every single archaeological grad student in the region got their PhD off the back of these operations. Episode ideas: 1) TVA and 2) the archaeological curation crisis. TVA and their reservoirs seem like an engineering success until you look under the surface. The archaeology curation crisis, besides being my personal white whale, will make you so very sad.

[@Erlec]

Goats and Donkeys are still vital sources of transportation around the world. But can't wait for the Tacoma Narrow bridge disaster episode!

[@devinfaux6987]

Technically speaking, a wood-fired steam locomotive fueled entirely from the products of sustainably-harvested forests would be "green"...

[@jaysea5939]

14:30 a good rug really ties a room together

[@dylanchouinard6141]

I’m disappointed that this part of the podcast wasn’t dedicated to the Gallant People of Afghanistan Edit: Justin made a Blazing Saddles reference, all is forgiven Edit edit: 1:07:30 you joke, but that is basically the reverse of a famous alternate history novel by Harry Turtledove called Guns of the South; in which a bunch of South African white supremacists go back in time to give Robert E Lee AK-47s. Yes, really.

[@nostahex]

Didn't the guys from game of thrones jumped the shark so they could do a Star wars movie and a pitch for a show about this book? And neither of them worked out?( One for obvious reasons)

[@DeadWhiteButterflies]

Wow, that novel sounds really cursed. This is why large parts of Steam punk as a fandom seem at least a little bit sus. A lot of being like, "don't worry, colonialism did nothing wrong. Now then, here's a rich eccentric with a funny name! ", and "Victiorian Europe is cooler than everywhere else, because they built cool stuff. No one else ever built cool stuff before this time". Like come on, mate 🙄

[@dylanchouinard6141]

Oliver Cant I don’t think it’s that cursed. I’m pretty sure the White Supremacists are the protagonist, but they are portrayed as white supremacists (ie, absolutely vile) and SPOILER I believe they fail

[@dylanchouinard6141]

Zalma I don’t know if it was an adaptation of Guns of the South. It may have just been a general alternate history show

[@amyk6869]

@@dylanchouinard6141 They do. It's kinda sus for other reasons (Lee as the sympathetic protag and its treatment of the Confederacy being my main issues with it), but the time travelers lose in the end, and slavery is abolished.

[@terjethornqvist4361]

Ahh, just what I needed today, some more lovely "Well there's your problem!" ohh and sleep is overrated

[@apteropith]

I understood almost none of what was going on with the actual disaster for this episode, but I'm going to tentatively put the blame on me trying to listen to it at the same time as playing _Baba is You._

[@diegorivera6531]

Tushonka was orginally introduced to USSR via the lend lease program during WWII. Good old texas steers canned as corned beef and sent to do Antifa shit in Staligrad. Then the Soviet food industry created its grey/brown substitute. Then nothing much happened until today when it was finally given its its rightful name, The TRAIN MEAT!!! (BTW train water is a thing in former USSR. Rock songs and such about it. Железнодорожная Вода.)

[@Watashiwadeus]

46:30 You're kinda right since Soviet soldiers called Mujahideen "Духи" which could be translated as spirits of ghosts.

[@sunyavadin]

Urge to offer editing services if it means longer podcasts... This seems a fair deal :D

[@masonturner0]

First we had the Bukake Fire Brigade, now get ready for Bukake Building Contractors

[@roborovskihamster5425]

I'm Russian but Ireland has the best anthem. Seantír ár sinsear feasta, Ní fhágfar faoin tíorán ná faoin tráill!

[@Materialist39]

I’m fond of South Africa’s. Good music and love that it’s in multiple languages.

[@samalbury9183]

@@Materialist39 but apartheid...

[@Materialist39]

@@samalbury9183 I forgot about this comment, but I’ll take a second to defend it. what is cool about the national anthem is that intentionally has a mix of languages and has tweaks to Afrikaner/apartheid era anthem. As perhaps it’s own symbol of reconciliation (and in reality at the behest of President Mandela) it includes a Afrikaans verse from the original, but also contains Xhosa, Zulu, and Sesotho, ending in English. The deliberate nature of the anthem, and it likely containing more languages than any other, makes it a testament to the anti-apartheid struggle (even containing elements from anti-apartheid songs) and the over a dozen officially recognized language. As far anthems throughout history go, it is in my opinion one of the most interesting, thoughtful and just straight up a good listen.

[@samalbury9183]

@@Materialist39 I'm sorry, I was just trying to make a joke

[@TheDevinMT]

Someone tell Alice I really appreciated the TMBG reference for me please

[@Psy500]

750mm Soviet narrow gauge line to Kabul would have been neat, PEU1 electric locos crawling over bad track at 40KM/h.

[@rahyutkill8442]

ＷＩＤＥ ＧＯＡＴ

[@riikkatheiceprincess_she_h8725]

Okay, two/three-ish hours later I've watched/listened through and I still don't know what's going on in here. I think there was a fire and some very odd probably-drunk people talked about a whole lot of things that weren't tunnels but probably sometimes involved fire. Did all of the tchotchkes burn up? What language are these people even speaking half the time? Is/was the Tacoma Narrows Bridge a friendship bridge? Why don't I have any friends? Maybe they're out building bridges. That must be it, nevermind that last question.

[@gramarchist]

My hometown has legends of a Goatman who stalks the old train tracks at midnight. So I'm pretty sure goats are pro-train.

[@johnperry3100]

The Santa Fe railroad had an ad from the 1950s with a child asking for a ticket on board the Atomic Super Chief

[@1121494]

Tacoma Narrows Bridge next week then? Looking forward!

[@pjlusk7774]

Not gonna lie, did not see a reference to the Pitt Super Weapon coming *at all*

[@dylanchouinard6141]

Could you please explain what that is for those of us who are ignorant -A Dumb New Yorker

[@user-ms8km7lh1l]

@@dylanchouinard6141 i just googled pitt superweapon www.bannersociety.com/2019/9/21/20877518/pitt-panthers-upset-history

[@TheNumberOfTheBeast666]

Decided to listen to the whole pod in order. I think this is for certain the first trainwreck of an episode... the trainwreck episodes are actually pretty good.

[@danielkorladis7869]

"I don't like the Amish" -Roz "I do not respect fish" -Liam

[@DeadWhiteButterflies]

That's actually a pretty accurate drawing of the Tacoma Narrows Bridge at night 😂

[@aturchomicz821]

the blood...

[@3216100]

56:05 Bukkoncrete?

[@danielkorladis7869]

Ha, I'm listening to this back to with the first part, as if it's one episode. Joke's on you, Roz!

[@TwoWholeWorms]

Fair enough, Ros. :) I can imagine editing these things is a PITA, so please look after yourself, and ignore idiots like this idiot who drunkenly post stuff like "Just stick it up in one hit" 'cause we're idiots. I genuinely enjoy this podcast, and it's something I look forward to appearing in my recommendations every week, so please, all three of you, just keep going on the way you are. :)

[@aevinum]

Liked explicitly for that excellent tacoma narrows bridge madden drawing

[@alstorer]

so 47:00, "no hazmats" in tunnels is pretty normal. Which means that for London unless they go over the Woolwich ferry northbound hazmat the lowest crossing dangerous goods can cross is Tower Bridge (southbound can cross at Dartford because it's a bridge that way). at the channel, nasties need to go on ferries, can't go on the shuttle trains

[@VirtualJMills]

Don't miss part 1 of this segment, where Alice explains that "Peak Goat" is coming. And in part 2, we learn from Alice about how "Train Gavage" works.

[@GrandGobboBarb]

uzbeks throw the best/most terrifying parties

[@user-ms8km7lh1l]

i have gone 22 years not knowing that "Arab" applies only to people who speak arabic and is not supposed to apply to a particular ethnic group, much less a vague catch-all term for MENA inhabitants as the us education system would have you believe

[@user-ms8km7lh1l]

though it's ethnoculturaletc-linguistic and every chud learning arabic to work for the government does not magically become arab

[@biffyqueen]

51:28 They did a containment operation that no one else could have done, on a disaster that only they could have created.

[@imsmolandangery4274]

I've never been so early to anything!

[@colewhiteley2989]

Hi Justin in post production

[@aturchomicz821]

42:22 Is s truerly blessed moment

[@whyask5461]

So I watched 1:14:00 of part one and so far 24:00 minutes of part two and although the jokes are appreciated a little bit of content would be a bit more engaging. So far we know there is a tunnel to transport widgets and that's about all we've learned.

[@welltheresyourproblempodca1465]

not widgets, tchotchkes

[@OrbitalRose_01]

Ah, some of this commentary aged like fine wine

[@ZanraiKid]

Kind of wish when Roz mentioned the China-Kabul railroad, Alice had "The East is Red" cued up and ready to go.

[@Snubbs]

hey folks, I sent a receipt to the channel's email for my donation to the actblue charity in the description a week ago and haven't gotten anything back yet. Just wanted to double-check that y'all actually got it and there's just a bit of a lead time and it hasn't been lost in your spam folders or something. Thanks, and keep up the great work with the podcast.

[@welltheresyourproblempodca1465]

Just responded to a few we missed

[@Snubbs]

@@welltheresyourproblempodca1465 I still haven't gotten anything. Y'know, i've been meaning to get a patreon account anyway. I still feel bad about pirating justin's episode on killdozer, and liam had such a way with words at the end of the bhopal episode that i'm just gonna get the bonus episodes the normal way.

[@CommieGIR]

If you do a Chernobyl episode, I wanna be a guest. Will totally beat the number of times we play the Soviet National Anthem.

[@philtai1265]

In the year 2058, Roz will podcast from a huge nuclear-powered rocket, Alice likewise from a nuclear fusion powered rocket orbiting the sun in the opposite direction, and Liam from a hydrogen fluoride powered WRX rocket orbiting the moon, with Roz somehow still struggling to record the podcast on a tiny 1.7 exabyte hard drive and complaining about the heating and his landlord locking him out of the airlock when he comes home late on his moonbike