WELL... This Just Happened.

[@HerTwoWheels]

!!!WARNING!!! If you take a shot every time I say the word "Motorcycle", you WILL become heavily intoxicated! 😂

[@madmak9]

🥴😵‍💫🥃Just a wee dram o'scotch each time! Wheeeeeee!😵‍💫🥴

[@77szak]

Don’t worry. I’m from Wisconsin so I’m not even buzzed 😂

[@madmak9]

@@77szak

[@68magnum1]

Jess I worked a car dealerships for 45 years as a mechanic and a shop foreman. If we had a situation like this the manufacturer would normally offer you to keep the car if you can live with the situation. Or if you want they would buy the vehicle back. And normally if there is a situation where it could cause a fire. They automatically offer you to buy the vehicle from you, if there was no easy fix.

[@Radar100RS]

Jess, my 1984 BMW R100RS has no computers, no reverse, BUT has never let me down in 20+ years of ownership. 😂

[@lonelybikr]

Layer the seal with bearing grease to keep the moisture out until they are able to fix it.

[@motomike71]

Could have ridden across the grass instead of having to back up! :D

[@ridesar]

On the flip side. BMW is going to replace my GS drive shaft every 36,000 miles. On them. Got my letter for that yesterday.

[@RetNavyChiefBTC]

Got my letter yesterday, not overly concerned. I too, have had recalls on several other brands. Just had the recall on my headlight completed a month ago. It took about 9 months, for BMW to have the fix. My 2022 Transcontinental is rarely ridden in the rain and is stored in a climate controlled garage. I think we’ll all be fine. Enjoy your trip! Tip: Don’t damage your saddlebag to the point of needing replacement. I was rear ended by a thankfully, slow moving vehicle. My right saddlebag required replacement. $2800 for all the parts that make up that bag. Additionally it took 9 months to receive the parts. One of the parts itemized, pinstripe on the bag. Early 2023, BMW was blaming COVID for the parts delay

[@HerTwoWheels]

GEESH!! Bag guards were one of the FIRST things I added 😅

[@kennv7566]

Good thing owning several bikes you have other bikes to ride while the BMW is getting fixed.

[@dianneoliver3814]

Screw all the technology. My Honda CB 500x has almost no tech and I love it!

[@amygardiner2278]

What a great bike! I had a 2015 CB 500X until a couple years ago and I am so sorry now that I sold it! I'd had it lowered (I have a 27"-inch inseam) and put some nice Puig crash bars and foldable levers on it. It was so reliable and just plain fun to ride! Perfect for me. I sold it because I thought that I wanted something with a little more top-end power for the highway. Should have kept it. I traded it in on a Triumph Tiger 900 Low. Big mistake. It was such a pain to push it around the garage and at parking stops, with its higher center of gravity. I had no intention of taking it offroad, anyway. I traded the Tiger for a Triumph Speed Twin 900, which I love and nicely meets my requirements. But I still miss the CB 500X. Enjoy your wonderful bike!

[@leswatson8563]

2008 an old mate of mine was still riding his early 1980s Honda CX 500. Took that bike to many European destinations without any problems. Safe cruising bro 🤘...

[@kennethanderson1685]

❤ I have a 2022 R18. Waiting for parts on this recall. No worries.

[@bryceyoung3604]

All very strong and valid points Jess. Very happy you took the time to make this video and I hope one day the manufacturers go back to robust testing prior to release rather than continually reducing time to market in a big race against the competitors for quick sales. Personally I travel a lot to distant and remote location both on the bike and four wheel driving in Australia. I deliberately drive and ride older and simpler tech vehicles for this precise reason. If something goes wrong I can fix it on a track or road side and get myself out of trouble in most instances. Another great vis Jess well done.

[@wsbigband]

I have the Classic and already received my notice. The fact BMW issued the recall before it had a fix, doubled the amount of time these bikes will be in the shop. Once for the disconnect, and once more for the fix.That seems to me that they are concerned for the customer well being. Another manufacturer may have covered up the problem until the fix was designed, manufactured, and distributed to the dealers BEFORE sending out a recall notice.

[@HerTwoWheels]

Absolutely! Very pleased to see they issued a recall asap instead of trying to hide things *cough* toyota *cough*

[@flatcapcaferacer]

The NHTSA gives the manufacturers 60 days to notify customers of a reported safety defect, that is the law.

[@donzollars8187]

That is exactly the reason I'm still on a 2021 Road Glide Limited!!!

[@Yankeeman1954]

The dealer offered me the $1000 of R18 gear as a cure for the reverse elimination. I had a 2022 Transcontinental. This issue, the headlight recall and the lack of dealerships led me to trade in my TC on a new Harley. Loved the TC, but with no fix, I, like you, couldn't believe they would recall it without a fix. Ugh!

[@MarcusTurner-b5p]

Nice video keep up the great work Her Two Wheels

[@quickshoe6]

It's fine. Send it 😮

[@hossdaddy2132]

Make them buy the bike back

[@TruckerBill9]

She got it for free.

[@aprilevettem7456]

@@TruckerBill9 she didn't get it for free at all she brought it...

[@generichards6497]

Hi Jess, I was a master automotive technician for 40+ years and the technology going into the newer vehicles cars and motorcycles is only going to become more prevalent. With a new set of problems to come with them. Stay warm and safe out there.

[@dankelly-e6x]

Must have had a super mom/dad with the wisdom & understanding you display on this painful issue. You are a very savvy woman to recognize our world & it's costly technology that has impacted cars, cycles , appliances & whatever. Patience... wow after all that 's been spent on this Beemer. Used to own a Commando Norton 750 , then moved up to a BMW R90 (sweetest bike) but caved into my wife's pleading to sell them as the risks with accidents vs. cars -trucks on the road (she=therapist dealing with "quads & paras" from cycle crashes). But do miss those days on "switchbacks" in CO riding. Anyway, be safe & be ever vigilant.

[@PetrolJunkie]

I'd put money on the fact that they will come up with a permanent solution. They may need some time to design and test a new seal. On the other hand they have never actually addressed the rust issue on the GS/A shafts beyond recommended more frequent maintenance.

[@mannymarin1593]

I had to sue HD over my Pan America 1250 Special. I hear most problems are all gone now. I wish you luck on your PanAm. Was a great motorcycle when it ran.

[@FreewheelerLover]

At least with most recalls there is a known "fix" for an issue. The Harley reverse motors are crap but at least it's a fairly easy fix (heck, take the motor to an alternator shop and get it fixed for around $100). The big problem with this BMW recall is there is no fix other than remove the part. I would push back, ask them why they can't just replace the problem seal.

[@Klown001]

the 'easy' fix of replacing the seal doesn't fix the core problem or if the internals did get compromised, you now just covered up a future problem. recalls having a known 'fix' isn't always as start forward as it seems and replacing the reverse motor doesn't fix the problem if the motor design is the problem. edge cases do come up that just can't be 'planned' for to happen/not happen and make it into final production. (I'm coming from the gaming industry) we have patches, hardware doesn't have that easy of a fix.

[@FreewheelerLover]

@@Klown001 But the current fix, remove the gear, wouldn't you still have the same issue, that the seal may already be damaged and therefore cause a future corrosion issue? Removal just mitigates the potential of burning the bike up. It totally stinks no matter what you do.

[@Klown001]

​If I understood Jess correctly there is "No current fix" so removing the gear isn't a 'valid/safe' option to them presently. It does stink which is the current problem with all the tech integration, if one thing goes down the whole system is compromised. removing the gear, yes you may remove the part that could burn, but you now have a hole in the system that it wasn't meant to have that could cause more potential damage someplace else, with no real answer to the original problem being fixed, and if they find a fix they now have issues with bikes that removed the gear now having more issues so it seems like not riding bike is the 'safer' option (not ideal) but from a recall stand point their only option with the information they've collected so far.

[@thedogsbutler7046]

I'm a MMI certified technician that worked as service tech and service manager in motorcycle dealerships from 1990-2012. This is not the worst recall I've seen. It's worded just like a few of starter motor recalls I've seen from three other manufacturers and it took while for them to come up with a remedy. They are trying to keep their butts covered in case of any legal action for fires.

[@markmcintosh7095]

Sell it or trade it in like I did. I hated mine and took a big loss. But it was a weight of my shoulders.

[@DonGoldstein-b7q]

Thanks for sharing Jess, very informative. I own a 2023 R18 and I have not received the letter just yet. I never use the reverse gear as the bike is so maneuverable and until they find the fix, I don’t plan on taking it back to the dealership just to disconnect the feature that I don’t use. It is odd that they issued a recall without a Repair ready to go. Very un BMW like ..

[@mannymarin1593]

Another reason I also have a bike with NO TECH. 2003 Heritage Softail and I love it.

[@shawnmaxwell1221]

You would think that they would have a fix for that. In the meantime, sounds like you might want to add a fire extinguisher in your saddle bag.

[@HerTwoWheels]

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing! 😅

[@denniscornell2747]

We are 13 above up from 25 below in Fairbanks Alaska. All bikes are in the heated garage for the winter.

[@roywalls5595]

I know all about it I watch the a video warning about buying different types of motorcycle problems! Mrs Jess

[@mannymarin1593]

My BMW service guy just told me within 60 days they will have a fix. I have an Appointment for tomorrow to do the recall. We'll all be fine. LOVE your channel!

[@HerTwoWheels]

I'm glad to hear that!

[@360chris88]

Thanks jess

[@rockymtnbri]

Wow - that's unbelievable that there's no fix. I love reverse on my Spyder, so I feel your pain. My Spyder is 1100 pounds, and without reverse, it'd be a pain getting it out of my storage unit or garage (when I bring it home).

[@henriklorenzen7516]

You are absolutely right.. You pay a lot of money for motorbikes and cars for a lot of crap computer programs, sencores that have to control, decide and with the internet send messages for this and that. Just to call them in the workshop, and milk one's wallet for money. Earlier machines, mechanically strong technologies, created reliable vehicles.. It's like with I find that the monologue TV and radio, was more reliable than the digital one. Today, many things are often made so complicated that many tinfs can have an influence on the quality falling, which many do not see, but only see push buttons and flashing lights on a program they follow blindly..!

[@Eds_PanAm]

Man, that sucks, you think BMW would have something to get that fixed pretty promptly for people, hopefully they will make things right…eventually that is, when Ducati customers had to get their motor replaced on their new V4S, not only did they replace the motor, but they give $1500 to spend on Ducati merchandise in a dealership along with an extra two years of warranty

[@kevinkrueger3686]

The rear tire on my Suzuki VStrom 800DE got recalled and Suzuki took so long to find a resolution. Two weeks ago I got a new rear tire. Give BMW some time and they will find a resolution. I also agree on new bikes being over abundant in tech. That’s why my 2012 Road Glide Ultra is getting the engine refreshed over upgrading to a new bike.

[@phillipschutt2434]

Yep.....got mine last week. Had the headlight recall earlier.....I will ride mine until the fix.

[@HerTwoWheels]

Same.

[@williambowen6471]

BMW seems to have issues with all their reverses on all their bikes. I have a 2018 K1600GT and the reverse has never worked! I never was in need of it because I'm a pretty good size gent so never had to use it. I just tried it one day just for fun and it would not work. Having said that, I still LOVE the bike!

[@andersljungberg3330]

Great information on that bike 👍🙂

[@itsallabouttheridekeepingi4449]

I tend to agree with you on the VERY modern motorcycles ( and cars ) with WAY to much tech . I think looking at a low kms Mid 2000,s bike say 2008- to around say 16 . When they perfected say ABS , traction control and basic ride modes . Still some new bikes that have basic tech like Royal Enfields , and some base models of brands . Paul from Australia.

[@sippinga.wiskey5664]

Love the bikes in your stable. Safe travels! Cheers 🥃🥃

[@truckerjim7933]

I inherited my wife's 1990 883 after her passing and after I had to sell my 1947 Harley chopper. Owning old bikes are not easy to own. Someone has to know the mechanics. Locating parts are harder and harder to find. I'm 72 so there's that. I'm seriously looking at the British 650's and the Japanese 650's.

[@nateepperson3188]

Just have them inspect the seal when you take your bike in for its service maintenance. And enjoy the bike. Hopefully bmw will cover the repairs if needed.

[@BJsExcellentAdeventures]

Recalls with no parts available seem more common post-COVID. Waited well over a year for parts to be available for the HPFP recall on my Ecodiesel. Unfortunately, the world we live in ...

[@LRose-72]

Aww no subtitles..very different to understand what ya say..but still love your video no matter what ❤

[@jeffdowning5941]

Good Info !

[@MichaelGreenham]

I've had two recalls for my 2018 Gold Wing. The latest has no fix and a stop sale order to the dealers.

[@sharonhirsch1173]

Bummer about the bmw. If they don’t figure it out then maybe a buy back. If they disconnect it for safety then BMW equals leg day Ride safe Jess

[@lancmac]

You are right... Too much tech. Think of it a 5 year old tech bike that cant get circuit boards for replacement is a brick.... A 50 year old motorcycle can be fixed anywhere... My 23 CVO is a fine example.

[@socratese71]

Technology is great when it works but pain in the behind when it has to be fixed. Also quality control is not the same anymore. I'll just keep driving mine till they fall apart.

[@mtpocketsnd]

Enjoy your trip!

[@frankcates3909]

Good points you discussed about these overly tech bikes. I'm on a 2014 Indian Vintage with very limited tech., No radio, not computer screen, etc. While the liquid cooled bikes tend not to burn you legs, I prefer the V-Twin Air/Oil cooled bikes. That's right air AND OIL Cooled which my Vintage has. Funny thing, Indian removed that oil cooler unit on their newer 2017 & up Chiefs. Since Indian also Discontinued the Vintage I'd go for the Springfield because it's basically a full size Chief too, just with hard bags, but on a positive note, it has much less tech. I know you're not much into HD's fairly equal competitor - Indian. Not trash talking, I just like the Indian brand. I don't care much at all for all the Hi-Tech stuff. For even the 'planned trips' in 2025, I'll have my cellphone GPS, handle mounted, & I'll be just fine. I've always made it home without these add-ons. .

[@m.f.m.67]

Gold Wing DCT. Has walking-pace reverse and forward. I think they call it "crawl" or something like that. Best of all, unlike the BMW crap (I used to own a K1600b) IT WORKS!

[@WimpyGimpy]

I don't think water getting in would cause a fire. More than likely it is a wiring or circuit board issue that causes a short. One day there may be a bike minding it's own business in the garage that ignites and then they will have the cause figured out

[@madmak9]

Man, I was thinking of adding that bike to my harem of beauties too!

[@HerTwoWheels]

Wait until they get this figured out! 😅 i LOVE the reverse function

[@brentcollins9727]

The prettiest eyes on two wheels

[@tonyjones9057]

As a rule of thumb I never buy new models. I allowed two or three years to get out the Kinks

[@AndrewB416]

Sucks. Hopefully nothing bad happens. Good thing you have other bikes to ride while you wait for a fix!

[@bigscout1584]

Lemon law the BMW. You have a good case for it being there is no fix at this point in time.

[@mannymarin1593]

The reverse gear was a big deal I got the bike but now that I am used to it I don't even use it. I just park it like I did my old RG Harley.

[@Backroadsbehindhdbars]

Well that sucks.

[@mikespeaks6038]

Man that sucks.

[@richardmourdock2719]

NOTE TO JESS: Keep the letter. Whenever you talk to the dealer about the problem, keep notes. Keep a file with the letter and the notes. IF, if, IF anything ever fails and you have all that documentation, you'll find the company much more agreeable to finding a fix. Explain to the dealer what happened when JR was on the bike. I presume the reverse is still working but making them aware that you had the problem (possibly)... if they don't say "bring it in and we'll fix it." at least you gave them a chance to do so. Document, document, document. Good luck.

[@HerTwoWheels]

Good advice!

[@michaelscafiddi7560]

Harley won't even service the older bikes. I have a 06 sportster 1200c and went for a service and they said no thanks. 2015 was the cutoff

[@n5iln]

I guess I've been really, really lucky. I have NEVER received a recall letter for a vehicle of any sort. I hope they sort out the problem with the R-18 soon!

[@HerTwoWheels]

You are lucky!

[@leedanielson7452]

Jess got down to 39° here in Avon Park Florida this morning... Probably not a whole lot different from Ohio. Lol.... but it did get up to 68 this afternoon....😂🥰👍👏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@charlenenoblick5196]

😮 Would send it back.

[@zaphodbeeblebrox4574]

Ask for a fix or a full refund. Accompany it with a lawyers letter. What if they said that one of the cylinders was likely to fail and there was no fix ?.

[@SoDakTwisties]

I will say, BMW does seem to be good about doing recalls and owning up to issues. K1600 transmission recall was pretty big and the R1250xx bikes get a free driveshaft at a set interval. Those are the recent ones that come to mind.

[@dohpredator]

there"s a recall on harley davidson Roads Glides also

[@rudyv1972]

I wonder if this is why Honda went with an electronic "walking gear" fwd/rev on the '18+ Goldwings?

[@sbacsigadget]

I always asked the question from the Harley people, why could the company make a 45 meter maid trike in the forties yet today they hang a $1400.00 crappy as motor on the new trikes. I would modify my diesel starter to work, it’s only $800.00 new from Cummins

[@JeffPowell-n2z]

I understand your concerns, it's hard to get what they told you out of your head.If they pay 4 it all,get it fixed.It will be fine then or ask your husband.He seems very level headed,keep riding😅

[@deveous_dave]

I would hope the chance of the bike bursting into flames (or just catching fire) would just be a legal disclaimer that they're required to add? Have you heard of any BMW's actually catching fire? If i had purchased thise models, it woukd be for the reverse option, i wouldnt be happy if it was disabled during a recall 😮

[@deney54]

My URAL has it built into the transmission; it has a reverse gear. So, an old Russian BMW copy has them all beat.

[@deanarmbruster9012]

No fix no bike. Time to get a new one.

[@saddle8bag]

It's an electric motor. If water gets in while it's running, it could short out, in which case it will blow a fuse and you'll have to push it backwards. Actually, if it was pure water, that wouldn't even happen. Rain water has electrolytes in it. That's what can make water into a conductor of electricity. As to old bikes, mfgs can still make them. They just can't change them. They're grandfathered. The KLR was such a bike until they just updated it. Pretty sure Honda's still making XLs that I used to ride in the early 80s. Saw one at a dealer recently. Still had the same little square speedo from back then. Really looks funny today.

[@MegaBruceC]

I wouldn't worry about the bike "spontaneously combusting" it's not a livewire!

[@grumpyvegan6439]

My reverse gear didn't work half of the time anyway. Now it's deactivated. It will be fixed "sometime next year"

[@irvineyoung1266]

I seen a video listing yesterday stating that Harley Davidson is going to become strictly a parts company, no new bikes. I didn't watch the video so know nothing else.

[@briggsty]

I got it and they offered 1k in oem parts which is not much until they figure out a fix.

[@andymccorkle9469]

All that money on a bike knowing it could be a loss. That sux. They should be doing something to make it up.

[@tarynsanmartino8930]

Well, I for one thinks that is horrible! So, the explanation of what can happen does seem that the component could ignite whether you're using reverse or not?!! Too many questions here that lead me to feel comfortable. Being a bit old fashioned, when it comes to pushing new technology, I sometimes feel there is too much pressure on manufacturers to sometimes fix things that aren't broken. Obviously, I hope that BMW is able to correct this for owners ASAP.

[@mannymarin1593]

My PanAm would just cut off on the highway! The screen would black out and went into Limp Mode more than a dozen times. This R18B issue is not a big deal.

[@HerTwoWheels]

I’m so pleased that I waited for the 24 pan. So far, i’ve had zero issues!

[@cmontuori12865]

That's unfortunate. They really need to fix it. Not bypass it.

[@jameskuhlman9835]

Got one for my Spyder and it's a doozie. "Engine output shaft may fracture..." and no insight into what it will entail until 1/31/2025 at a minimum. Prime riding season in AZ and it could be tied up in the shop for months.

[@davew8694]

Politely ask your dealer to "PAY ME MY MONEY!"

[@TemmenBos]

Contact the dealer where you bought the bike. And ask them if they have any kind of remedy To fix the problem under warranty

[@kenbowlus2995]

The fact that BMW has said there is currently no fix for this issue does not change just because you want to call it a "warranty" repair instead of a "recall."

[@ADobbin1]

Yeah they have way too much tech. I think its time the makers go back to basics.

[@whskywolf]

Have you seen the add on reverse for Harley’s newer bikes?

[@feline-n6b]

Sad when you shell out a good chunk of $$$ for these new bikes gradually introduce technology to bikes not dump a boat load all at once

[@ctsnider88]

This sounds like most of the automotive recalls of late.

[@philipkuriger3420]

With the singular exception of hydrologic clutches I dislike most of the tech on new model motorcycles, whatever the manufacturer.

[@leedanielson7452]

So the only possible problem comes when you use reverse??? so you can't use reverse then or shouldn't?

[@HerTwoWheels]

I think both.

[@zionvillegirl]

Old school rules🤷🏼‍♀️maby

[@sdm7067]

Time to trade on a new Goldwing

[@scottdalrymple1716]

What I hate most about this for you is that the reverse gear was one of the major selling points. If the main reason for me to purchase a bike is going to be eliminated I feel that the dealer should buy it back and sell me something else. I understand that you have multiple bikes to ride but you will never be able to fully enjoy the BMW because of that issue.

[@anthonypelosi3779]

Jess / her two wheels if the reverse gear on your BMW cannot be fixed would you consider trading in your BMW for another motorcycle that has reverse gear and the features you need?

[@HerTwoWheels]

Probably just for a lighter bike. Ngl I LOVED riding the R Nine T 😬

[@sarablackwolfdancer9359]

I would hope they would compensate you in some way for loss of function and resale value for your bike, based on their recall.

[@garyreinke4741]

That's the HUGE problem too much on everything just keep it simple

[@georgiahillbilly6150]

Too much tech on the newer bikes I'll just keep my 07 road glide an my 82 shovel head I can work on them