My father won’t stop until his garage is completely full of faulty china saws.
@timothybyrom55609 ай бұрын
I've got two of the no name Zenoah clones. I haven't had too bad a luck outta them. Sure, I've had to do a couple of things, but in my case they punch way above their weight class.
@cgriebel19 ай бұрын
Glad you posted this Charles. This shit is bound to happen. It's a free market, and the cream usually rises to the top. Keep up the awesome workmanship. You've got a killer channel brother. Go get 'em.
@Macgyver-ranch9 ай бұрын
I think Boedy should help you with Asshat stickers for that saw. Boedy owes you some professional courtesy.
@ryanfriars5459 ай бұрын
Boedy is an idiot. Not the guy to team up with.
@FreedomotorsportsLlc9 ай бұрын
You have some of the nicest looking port work I have seen
@ragercrepair93019 ай бұрын
People actions speak volumes! I feel your advice and opinion are important to the community of real supporters.
@AnonymousOtters9 ай бұрын
Good points all around. The way you've handled it makes it clear who the more reputable person is in the interaction. Carry on
@dubbssawshop9 ай бұрын
You do you buddy. And speak your opinion loudly!!!!! 👍🏻 plenty problems with all clones, no matter what brand!!!
@ChippyOutdoors9 ай бұрын
Dear lord i hope this isn't the "Noker Joker" guy trying to throw his weight around because that guy knows shit about saws as hes stated and what appears getting opinions from "professionals" that clearly didn't know what they were talking about as well 🤦♂️ guy's a joke. Brisco you don't need to explain yourself buddy over who I'm thinking you're talking about. Remember you have results, and the other .... clocks ticking what he has ..... i hear the birds chirping ..... he has nothing
@jamiedalluge94729 ай бұрын
We've had so many issues with clones we jst turn down doing service work on them. They make for interesting content but you definitely get what you pay for. Your a great and honest builder buddy keep doing what you do
@nateolmsted8999 ай бұрын
Everybody and anybody that has ever met Charlie knows he’s a standup guy. I don’t know why people are getting upset cheap Chyna Saw‘s are just that they’re junk.
@backyardfirewood98529 ай бұрын
Because people want them to be OEM quality for fractions of the cost and get chapped when they aren’t… I have a few clones, I have no delusions of grandeur about them.
@backyardfirewood98529 ай бұрын
@@lokicam1307 my clone 395 has a Hyway cyl and piston, Walbro carb, Hyway oiler. I figure at this point it should serve me well. I have a ported 572, 620, and another stock 620… I have too handle for dirt bike trail maintenance…
@wayneberry87039 ай бұрын
There is no place in this world for Bullies, Charles. These people only bring grief. Great buys on those chainsaws…
@bennyblanko39 ай бұрын
I think you are spot on with what you are saying about the clones (I have a 372, 543, and another zenoah type). The good thing is that they are cheap. The bad thing is that construction is not close to oem quality. But, if you can't find a decent price on a used oem saw, don't use the saws everyday professionally, and don't mind messing with them, and don't have a ton of money, they will put wood on your truck. My real orig. edition (actually stock jonsred 2071) runs great, and my ported clone 372xp (non-xtorq) wasn't quite as strong - but it does cut wood pretty good, especially now that I mildly ported, gasket delete and muffler modded it, timing advance, and put a new carb on it, fixed the air leaks, etc. But, if time is money, I put a bit of time sorting that saw out. At least my coil hasn't fried yet - but I don't have a lot of time on that saw either - so I'm sure that is coming.
@conormichael79649 ай бұрын
I just saw that guy made a video about me😂 it’s comical at this point, keep your head up Charles
@axesandthings4839 ай бұрын
Well, I'm subscribing to you now out of pure spite. And to that guy, be better.
@andrewslagle19749 ай бұрын
Sorry for your trouble Charlie.There has to always be one that destroys our/your fun .Dont let it get to you p.s. love your work and channel.
@mr.somebody14939 ай бұрын
Thanks for the first video. Some of us like our clone saws, and I'm always interested in hearing about people's buying experiences. Never acknowledge a troll, acknowledgement is what they want most.
@jonathanhoekstra61749 ай бұрын
I look forward to seeing what you do with the counterfeit. I have the NeoTech clone and have learned quite a lot watching your videos. It’s usable now at least.
@ricksanchez74599 ай бұрын
He is trying to keep his market cornered. Hard to do as a middleman.
@parkedfamily9 ай бұрын
You won yourself another subscriber! 😄👍
@chrismuncey38619 ай бұрын
Most of the time the bulley loud mouths are the one's with a big ego and think there the 💩 with something to prove. It's the quiet polite ones that don't bragg that will surprise you. They don't have to prove themselves because they know what they can do. They let their work do the talking. When they start attacking people it's because they're intimidated in some way and trying to build there confidence. Keep up the good work brother 💪.
@winstonpoplin9 ай бұрын
Me and my family have always used Poulan saws and they are fantastic. A good Poulan will run for 25+ years and still run like a horse.
@crxess9 ай бұрын
Charlie, I have to be very careful what I say..... I just turned 70yrs. and never really got into chainsaws until a little over a year ago. Seriously, I have had 2 Electric chainsaws for about 30yrs, for cutting up small limbs and wild saplings sprouting up around the yard. I have run Gas saws, Borrowed and have been a Technician/Mechanic most of my life, so I'm completely comfortable tinkering and learning. *Suffice it to say, I am NOT a professional user and don't make my living from Cutting wood or repairing Saws. However, I am a homeowner that now depends on Firewood for heat and has seen the increase in cost. I'm limited on income, social security, and cannot throw big money at seldom used products(of any kind) so I shop, learn, invest and deal with whatever issues arise. i.e. - I have learned the ins and outs of just about everything I have to deal with in life. Okay - That said, Most of the Community have been blessings to people like myself. You guys Share with the rest of us and elevate our knowledge to levels of confidence we never expected to reach. I sincerely thank every one of you that does that. **** Now, KZbin recommended a channel to me about a month back.**** You can guess who, just by this Video, and I can only agree 100% with your frustrations. After watching the first short, my only comment was - Moving on - (To simple words). I received his reply attacking me as a cultist and a few other choice remarks. The person seems to be mentally unstable. We have since commented back and forth on a few of his videos, some positive and others legitimately offering advice to him with what seemed to be positive responses from him. ******************** What I learned************* I have been a KZbin member(not a creator) since 2007. I have received (4) warnings and (1) 24hr. Lock out from posting....with KZbin's ambiguous community harm warning, not having a clue what they were referring to. All (5) actions have been in the past few weeks with (4) Comment Removals. After the last one came when I had only posted 2 comments on Videos all day, both Chainsaw related, I had reference to to back and find who reported me. After locating the video with the removed post, I reviewed others on the channel where I had corrected him. 3 more were gone. Yep, and Azzhat with a God complex... My thanks to you and the others in the community that share and teach those of us willing to learn. You are all treasured for your efforts and kindness.
@Jaysmallenginerepair-20239 ай бұрын
Damn you hit a nerve with him keep it up. You know your stuff I hear a lot of great things about you.
@shaner679 ай бұрын
You spout that opinion all day long Charlie. I don't know you personally but from what I've seen on KZbin you are an honest hard working family man.. Great video man!!
@IndianaDoug9 ай бұрын
I just wanted to say hello to Steve when he reads these comments on his channel. God love loves you Steve😀
@crazyfeller57049 ай бұрын
🤪👍
@Metalandwoods_longlostdentures9 ай бұрын
Steve, please come home. Your family misses you very much
@ChippyOutdoors9 ай бұрын
😂
@bradleyking49729 ай бұрын
Hey steve 😂
@jimssawsnstuff89039 ай бұрын
Steve is a special kind of …stu. Pid
@codyvickers9679 ай бұрын
I have three clones that I bought to learn to work on chainsaws, and for that, they are amazing!! I play with them and they keep me busy!
@coxsaws9 ай бұрын
Ignore him
@JKSawShop9 ай бұрын
You should be able to have your opinion especially if I paid money for the item in theory I would speak my peace.
@justinweaver81079 ай бұрын
Absoulty 100% agree❤
@larrywarner93149 ай бұрын
Charlie your top notch, and I'm sure I'm not the only one that'll say that ,
@larryreno82939 ай бұрын
Charlie, don’t waste time on your haters. Keep doing what you do, that’s how you got to where you’re at. ❤️🤘 See you on the next vid.
@L3Dhelpguide9 ай бұрын
Don't feed your trolls. If you ignore them, they lose strength and go back to their cave.
@cgriebel19 ай бұрын
Amen.
@steppoffaith84269 ай бұрын
Lol lol. Your the best channel and person and only regular I watch. You need anything please let me know.
@norm72359 ай бұрын
Call it the “asshat” special
@johnjriggsarchery24579 ай бұрын
Pffft, I have a 20 year old Husky 288 with a couple of thousand hours, and it'll still outlive any of these new clones.
@conormichael79649 ай бұрын
I can’t believe this stuffs still happening, dudes a scammer and it’s honestly sad, keep your head up man
@rickfuerst9 ай бұрын
And I value your opinion. Keep up the good work that you do! 👍👍
@rugerfarming53879 ай бұрын
I kind of hated it when i started seeing husky clones. Just because i thought in the future i would see people trying to pass them off as OEM saws. Sounds like they are trying to do it already.
@jimssawsnstuff89039 ай бұрын
@charlesBrisco, I’m sure that J-oker must win all the clone wars with his chinesium is that good…oh wait…did he show up? 😜 Your the real deal buddy, take care and don’t let the trolls get you down 😉👍
@larrywarner93149 ай бұрын
Charlie I bought one of the blue 372 clones and built it with a lot of eom parts , I basically used the blue one for the cases and wrapped it around OEM Husqvarna parts and it held up pretty good, but your absolutely right those saws won't last a month in a logging camp !!
@kissmya3259 ай бұрын
Hey brother remember trolls are just beta males who are still pissed they can't find there Daddies. 😂 Keep up the nice work brother
@EricaMTB9 ай бұрын
Nothing can save the knocker!
@DEEREguy19829 ай бұрын
Best thing you can do is keep doing your thing and don’t even engage him at all. People who know you, your work, and your channel know better than to even give it a second thought. Keep on keeping on.
@teamflashtv9 ай бұрын
Sorry man, I didn't mean to start anything with my jokey Noker comment. The man and his saws speak for themselves. As do you and yours.
@joshuasweet15329 ай бұрын
I would never spend my hard earned money on a clone saw . Nooo way
@JoshNoss9 ай бұрын
Had one of those carbon fiber look 660 holtzforma clones, saw was crap.. oiler broke and the sizing was wrong so the OEM one wouldn't fit, carb was junk and saw cut with less power than a stock 572.. the chinaesium blocks and cylinders are suspect at best. After my experience with that saw I'll never buy a clone again.
@nosam60029 ай бұрын
Internet KZbin bullies are a joke. Ignore them...they aren't worth the time unless it turns out to be a misunderstanding. Be the bigger man, as my pops used to say. I have a G660 and 372 clone saws. Both needed carb tunes right out of the box. Other than that, they have run flawlesly...so far. Long term durability is an unknown. Do they run equal to my Stihl and Husky saws of the same displacement? NO! I didn't really expect them to be equal, so I wasn't really disappointed. I think with these clone saws, its a roll of the dice on what you get for quality and performance right out of the box.
@grdray21389 ай бұрын
I wish we knew his channel. We could do reports of harrassment and bullying at minimum. Maybe YT will give his channel a timeout. They have others. Thanks for the video.
@grdray21389 ай бұрын
@@jerrygiovengo1927 thank you.
@cgriebel19 ай бұрын
...had a feeling. @@jerrygiovengo1927
@Ceemysix9 ай бұрын
I went over to the guys channel. What a duchebag. Charles. You are an above the board kind of guy. You have a top notch channel. I follow you, Joe, and Tinman for a reason. You all have something great to offer.
@lorenzonelli33229 ай бұрын
Who Is this guy?
@paulb73348 ай бұрын
Who tell us
@woofy5488 ай бұрын
I can't believe the drama in the chainsaw community. They're just chainsaws! They cut trees.
@Tennessee_Jon9 ай бұрын
He makes his money by suing people. Instead of calling him ASSHAT call him Mumbles. He is only seeking relevance and a lawsuit. Nobody needs to make a video about Noker when he does it by showing a 92cc saw can’t fall a 12 inch tree any better than a Stihl 170. Ignore Mumbles
@teamflashtv9 ай бұрын
"showing a 92cc saw can’t fall a 12 inch tree any better than a Stihl 170" 🤣
@teamflashtv9 ай бұрын
@@lokicam1307 Dude, right on. I don't want your saw to fail. Truth is you got lucky and most people get what they pay for. The value of a tool is in the work it can do, and you're right to be happy if yours has cut that much wood, but realistically most clone saws are more likely to stop oiling on the first day than they are to cut 20 cords a season.
@1u5t1n9 ай бұрын
@@lokicam1307200 cords, or chords if you say so, with a clone saw? Not a single fail? Nah.
@Cherokee-sz7xiАй бұрын
OMG ! I just noticed you have what appears to be a nuker on the table! He will probably accuse you of stealing that like he did Doug,,,
@joshuasweet15329 ай бұрын
That dude reminds me of that fabz acres dude with the drama
@hertugen.online9 ай бұрын
ChainSaw kwack kwack is Fabz Acres, useless as a builder and porter, useless in the woods too.
@jadeolin85149 ай бұрын
They are friends lol. Who woulda thought
@hertugen.online9 ай бұрын
@@jadeolin8514 Fabz Acres, no one has read more than him and no one has understood less than Fabian. There is a highway connection from his eyes out of his ears.
@crazyfeller57049 ай бұрын
👍👍 Nuff said…….
@brownwrench9 ай бұрын
Farmatec and Holzforma objections?
@larrylynch80409 ай бұрын
I have own a xbull chainsaw for 2 years never had any problems with it, I mix my oil with 93 octane, no problem at all
@Super-Dave-Outdoors9 ай бұрын
He or one of his froot loop friends is making other accounts to comment on the channel. Just fyi
@robert40279 ай бұрын
if it's a turd saw. ? its a turd saw ! say it like it is I do
@smorgdonkey9 ай бұрын
I'm nobody and I think that you have the right to your opinion. Anyway, if someone acts crazy...they're likely crazy.
@StuInTheSticks9 ай бұрын
OH FOR LOVE OF! not that noker joker guy again I thought he'd finally crawled back into his knot hole, the guy's like some kind of chronic diarrhea just when you think all's good and the crap finally stop's he come's roaring back spewing crap all over ahh jeez..... Somebody need's to send him a bulk pack of Costco toilet paper cause he so full of it. At this point he's just about harassed anyone that's posting any saw content on youtube. He need's to give it a break already, anyways lol! just keep on keeping on Charles we're here for you and the saw content not that joker and his drama.
@BillsGarageWorks9 ай бұрын
Well said.
@craigrichardson46419 ай бұрын
Lmfao!
@rchighfield19 ай бұрын
I value your opinion and rank you at the top when it comes to a man. Don’t sweat the idiots.
@uncleputz57929 ай бұрын
Charlie, I actually purchased a Blue 660 Holtz saw to help someone out, they were moving and needed the money. I have a good collection of both Stihl and Husky. this thing runs strong, it needed a little carb adjusment and ever since then..no trouble. I could be like the asshat that is giving you the what for and say, let it go, he probably drives a ford. lmao
@derriklee2879 ай бұрын
You must drive a stellantis or a pos gm (government motors) eh?
@RICHIE_RICH899 ай бұрын
Pretty soon you will have to worry about getting ripped off on a clone over a real saw.
@dodge83669 ай бұрын
At the end of the day, they are cheap Chinese rubbish if you enter into buying one, knowing that with your eyes, open fair enough, but I can’t stand these people who try blagging they are nearly as good as OEM. Interestingly enough, the people who kick off and start mud slinging are those with a vested interest in them. I had a similar experience when I said that the Bill quality was questionable and I wouldn’t recommend one for commercial use in a Facebook group. And I had a US dealer in them. Try getting me removed from various groups and blackening my name. Which seems an extraordinary amount of hassle to go to to inconvenience a guy, the other side of the world in the UK, who just answered a question and gave some impartial advice.
@Broddi1699 ай бұрын
Screw that punk. Keep doing you bro.
@gangsterdiesel00939 ай бұрын
Junk saws drama
@truthbetold29149 ай бұрын
Wwhhhaaaaa.......
@tedneitzel9 ай бұрын
He has guilty issues!
@jackkonnof41069 ай бұрын
I wouldn't let it bother you charles. He probably thinks harbor freight sells good tools too. Just like the knock off tractors that don't hold a candle to john deer or kubota. Every few years a new brand hits the market and then they are gone in 10 years and you cant get parts for them. Bottom line you get what you pay for and a name brand will always be around to sell parts.
@RICHIE_RICH899 ай бұрын
Whats the guys problem . He should just be wise and take a chill pill. Has he ever ran a true 592xp or anything cool like that. Guilty by treason cuts more trees then anyone and he reviews these . He makes it real clear. Not bad for maybe a homeowner using it once in awhile but not a guy running them hard. And on top of that the power is just not the same. Ripsaw makes a beautiful 592xp when there done proting doing a good muffler and timing advance.
@richardsneddon29769 ай бұрын
Sick of this guys bull . He has now made about 10 vids dropping your name . You have only told the truth . I searched like you said and a 365 clone popped up for 150 shipped and 372 for 180 shipped and they were on ebay and I live in the UK. Anyone buying one of this guys saws at his prices really need there head looking at .he lied about doug all this cray about serial numbers which I checked dogs video and the numbers are different and all doug needs to do is put another video out with the noker again to prove it .
@buddysumner40229 ай бұрын
I don’t no Charlie but I watch a lot of your videos and I think u build some badass saws, but don’t let nobody bully u , you are a grow man how do u let another man bully you,
@JandSChainsaw9 ай бұрын
It's sad that the guy had made his following off completely BS..even sadder that his following continues to grow..better watch what I say I'll be accused of being cult member or get sued 🤣 😂
@Rachel.S6749 ай бұрын
Want a real saw buy the real thing!
@37gdog9 ай бұрын
Who are you talking about?
@craigrichardson46419 ай бұрын
Dude was a male Karen lmfao quality matters.your right dude is wrong.my opinion.
@z1berzerker8 ай бұрын
Chinese knock offs, I concur with your general opinion 👌 not the best... they will work after a lil going through...
@jeremyfortune72749 ай бұрын
He wanted attention and you give n it to him… don’t mention those folks! All they want is attention and in hopes someone asks their name then they get even MORE ATTENTION. Dudes that want attention I never give it to um…. Just my take
@davidbulich12549 ай бұрын
All the clones are junk
@paulb73348 ай бұрын
Say it who is it
@ScrewdriverTUNING9 ай бұрын
You rock Charles. Your opinion matters to the rest of us brother keep doing you. 🦾☀️ I think you found your name. “The counter fit” or “Not special” 😂