The Tragic Story of Fanny Adams | Victorian True Crime | Well, I Never

[@cloudsn]

The saddest part for me is how the kids tried to do the smart thing. Even being very sheltered, they knew this guy was suspicious. They said no to money and candy. They said no, we won't let our friend go alone. They ran and told an adult what happened as fast as they could. We can't know if Fanny would have been saved if the first adult had listened to them, but it's hard not to wonder.

[@shadowlurker9088]

@Seven Inches of Throbbing Pink Jesus oh look a religion contrarian online! How original. Feel better?

[@shadowlurker9088]

@Seven Inches of Throbbing Pink Jesus *edgelord entered the chat* how's mamas basement?

[@hollyh5032]

@Repent and believe in Jesus Christ Amen!! Time is running out! Come Lord come!!

[@riri1808]

I would be so sad to be her mother and to know that is what lives on of your child's legacy

[@chocomelo454]

@Repent and believe in Jesus Christ Not the time.

[@grandmatheglorious.6358]

I often heard 'sweet Fanny Adams' as a child. It generally meant ' nothing'. My mother forbade us to say it. She would not let us disrespect a little girl who had suffered like that. Thanks mum. X

[@atimidbirb]

Your mom is a good person

[@GOTTshua]

Good for your mum. Honour & respect.

[@kittyglitter8186]

Good for her!

[@rosiesoutlook]

Are you sure it isn’t because it’s used instead of “fuck all”?

[@Miss_Camel]

Thanks to your mama from me as well!

[@MessagerOfHell]

It's heartbreaking what happened to an innocent little girl. That her name is used as slang for poor quality meat is downright insulting to the memory of that child/person.

[@sezcam79]

so true. got a couple of thoughts while reading your comment. insulting yes but sad to say remembered because of it, although less so now i think, it was my granny that told me the story. and nowadays it's sweet f*** all

[@jennifertierney9076]

Agreed

[@williamreilly5077]

Spot on i thaught it meant f### all but now ive heard the tragic story of the wee girl ill never be using that phrase its not used much in scotland but ive heard it said RIP little fanny 😢

[@angelahyler2546]

I agree, it makes death seem unimportant and is very demeaning to this child,VERY disrespectful

[@willissudweeks1050]

For real haha how did that happen? I hope her mom never heard it.

[@dreamer_of_hiraeth]

As a mother of a girl myself, this story makes my heart ache. That poor girl. She tried to do everything right and was a ray of sunshine, talking to everyone. And then that monster treated her like that. I did not grow up in an english speaking environment, but to have a phrase like that thrown around... what a nightmare for everyone who loved that little girl, and how utterly disgraceful to be a thing at all. I hope little Fanny rests in piece and her star shines bright in every night sky.

[@trevorjennings]

Hello Anna, how are you doing today, hope you’re fine and safe from the COVID-19 virus??

[@michaelbailey8729]

A particular adult I remember used it when I was a kid but they didnt know its deeper meaning when I asked them. All they knew is it meant nothing. "What did you get"? may be the question. "Sweet Fanny Adams" was the reply. It has morphed into Sweet F*** all or Sweet FA.

[@uno8429]

Rest in peace

[@tooyoungtobeold8756]

Tough times.

[@whereisCarmenSandiego]

Not gonna lie, teared up when I saw you putting flowers on her grave. Not many KZbinrs would do that. They would just film her grave and walk away. Thank you for being thoughtful.

[@ramblingrob4693]

I agree entirely

[@MrPARKERSBIRD]

Same here. I sat in disbelief and horror throughout the video, then got really choked up when I saw the flowers being laid.

[@ruthshelton-tp9ie]

Very touching & sweet thing to do indeed. Thank you dear sir.💐💐💐💐💐Rest in peace sweet child.🙏

[@spudspuddy]

all youtubers would if they lived near a grave...why lie and say they wouldn't with your fake photo

[@theoverunderthinker]

some would pick them up when they left or use flowers at another grave and then returned them when they are done. people know things like that touch emotions, which could be why they do it. in this case, it seems sweet and sincere, but who knows? 🤷‍♂🤷‍♂

[@susannaude8514]

This sweet, innocent little girl, should not be remembered as something worthless. May she forever be remembered as a bright star, who loved to talk to everyone.

[@jasonmason2471]

She is not remembered as something worthless, her remains were so sparse...

[@gailcrowe727]

It’s not an expression I’ve ever used and I didn’t know the story of the little girl either. It’s not one I ever intend to use, especially now.😪

[@spudspuddy]

my Nana too, she'd say that's disrespectful don't say it, but i don't think she realized what sweet FA also mean't, lol bit naive my Nana

[@meilingflesa8140]

I am sure God is looking after her now

[@creative2716]

Yes, no child is worthless! Stop using her name in a derogatory meaning. Please.

[@Ninja-ty4lw]

I loved that you showed the area and placed flowers on her grave. The latter was a sweet gesture.

[@yourmom9951]

It was just for show. He actually bought the flowers for his wife on their anniversary and took them home to her after recording his video smh

[@janetwestwood9194]

🤔😖☝

[@dorothywillis1]

@@yourmom9951 You are no one's mom. Your mind has not got beyond the age of 13 when you discovered how to shock people by saying things like this. Go back to the playground.

[@Theaddora]

@@yourmom9951 that's rude. Go away.

[@jillemburey3214]

@@yourmom9951 I bet you're fun at parties....

[@dany4645]

The fact that the kids immediately tried to get help but went unheard is heartbreaking. And you leaving flowers to her grave now that all her loved ones are gone was so sweet I tested up. I hope she found peace, she absolutely didn’t deserve what happened to her

[@PuddingMcMuffin]

I can only imagine how Minnie Warner's mother felt once she found out that Fanny actually had been kidnapped and that her daughter and Lizzie weren't joking. The guilt that would come with something like that.

[@brianmccarthy5557]

She might have been able to prevent the death if she had raised an alert with Fanny's parents. A search party might have found the monster while he was still "playing" with his victim before dismembering her.

[@rneustel388]

I got up to all sorts of mischief as a child, but I’m sure I wouldn’t have used a kidnapping of my best friend as a prank!

[@toxxicx]

@@brianmccarthy5557 i've seen another video on this case and they thought she was killed within 20 minutes after she was taken, so it's unlikely she could have been saved.

[@hospitalcakewalk]

She didn't care, are you deaf.

[@hospitalcakewalk]

@@rneustel388 more than likely the woman just didn't care.

[@lilyquinn1711]

Thank you for covering this in a respectful way. I've lived in Alton my whole life and Fanny Adams is buried in the same cemetery as my grandad, so I often went to visit her grave as a child with my nan and put a few flowers on her grave. Fanny's story was used as a cautionary tale for myself and my cousin in regards to talking to strangers whilst we were growing up. It's awful that this happened to her

[@bryanthunderfootporter4436]

Oddly enough though, he wasn’t a ‘stranger’ but someone the kids knew from church. Still … The first ‘enticements’ should’ve / could’ve triggered the girls intuition warnings. What a different outcome it might’ve been had they ran …

[@kyupified2440]

@@bryanthunderfootporter4436 well they knew him from the church, so maybe they thought he's harmless and just as what the narrator said before, there were no history of crimes until then so obv the parents never told them how dangerous some human can be

[@javieraaravena]

@@bryanthunderfootporter4436 the dude just snatched her up when she refused to go... do you think running woud have deterred him? also, when you're having a conversation with someone that you know, even if they're acting strange or creepy, most people just wouldn't run... it's rude, and humans tend to avoid being rude, even to the last second, it comes with being a social species. But again,,, this dude just straight up picked her up, they would've run all of ten steps and he'd've caught up, these were 8 and 5 year old little girls, intuition is nothing more than experience and they didn't have that, c'mon now

[@pamelakeetley2613]

I'm so pleased someone is still leaving flowers for her R.I.P.

[@azillliasmith2734]

Lovely of you to lay flowers 🌺🌸🌹🌷💐.......

[@hmagix9554]

I loved the fact that Fanny stood her ground, after having been enticed by that monster, with money and sweets...she wanted to stay with her sister and friend....that's what Fanny should be remembered for...for friendship.

[@Cissy2cute]

She does seem to have been a strong little girl, but of course she could not overpower that monster. RIP Fanny

[@pattyh1428]

Try

[@ChA0s_AgeNt]

No.

[@joflynn999]

And being streetwise

[@lilacmollymoo]

Absolutely, strength and loyalty

[@jennifermaurer100]

That was incredibly sad, but you putting flowers on her grave and touching her headstone actually made me tear up. What a great episode on a great channel. Thank you!!

[@sdb9884]

The touch of the headstone is what made me tear up, as well. It was such a comforting gesture to her memory.

[@South_Heat]

I thought that was super sweet also.

[@fanaticat1]

I also thought it was a 😢sad story, but putting the flowers 💐 by the grave was a nice tribute...

[@jennifermaurer100]

You know why we're all so touched by that simple, kind act? Because not only is it rare, but it is a deep look into the people who produce these videos. They are genuinely kind and decent and we all resonate with the tenderness to a murdered child.

[@fanaticat1]

@@jennifermaurer100 Your kind words are just as touching!

[@american_rose1108]

It's terrible that the probable rape and consequential murder & mutilation of a little girl was used as "slang" for bad meat. People can be truly disgusting. Bless her, that poor baby went thru hell, and people •mocked• it. SMH. Now I'll be saying, "Sweet Fanny Adams" in a way to honor this little girl.

[@jodyknight]

Yes, me too, "as innocent as Sweet Fanny Adams."

[@lindamcgarrity6282]

Totally agree

[@vanessaouyang1220]

If, as some people have suggested, he was a serial killer, then but for that slang, Fanny Adams name would have been long forgotten, just as everybody else's he may have murdered, has done.

[@thelastpilot4582]

@@vanessaouyang1220 It was never suggested he was a serial killer this is just silly conjecture nor was it ever suggested he sexually molester her that is just modern day peoples minds. He denied that right up till he was hung.

[@vanessaouyang1220]

@@thelastpilot4582 : Do you understand what the word "if " means?

[@ferrisulf]

I am American and have only ever heard this phrase used in sailor songs. What a tragic story. Fanny sounds like such an amazing girl, standing her ground for herself and her sister and friend. Thank you for telling her story in such a respectful way.

[@heraportiataite8625]

.. my name's not the greatest but Fanny is Grose and used as a derogatory expression nowdays

[@miaironstone6783]

It’s so sad when the last thing remembered about a person is the awful way they died. I really appreciate that you did your best to tell us WHO she was, not just what happened to her

[@pannab9042]

I can’t even imagine how the friends mother felt, dismissing the child’s story.

[@susanleatherbarrow2495]

Probably too stupid for anything to impact.

[@SFVnative]

It wasn't just 150 years ago that people were that stupid. In the early 50s a fat woman showed up at a Catholic school in Missouri to kidnap a wealthy man's son. She claimed she was his aunt and that his mother was sick and she was taking him home. The boy didn't know this woman from anywhere, but a nun let him go with her, no questions asked. The woman then got into a taxi, met up with her boyfriend, drove with him to an isolated spot, and walked her dog while the boyfriend killed the child, who fought for his life. Then they called the parents and demanded a huge ransom, which the father paid in spite of the male criminal giving one excuse after another why the boy wouldn't answer questions or talk on the phone (more stupidity.) 😖

[@calonstanni]

@pop pixie look up "Kidnapping of Bobby Greenlease"

[@ragantate3995]

I can’t stand people who do that. Too many people do that to kids.

[@shannoncoley7056]

@@SFVnative why is it important to describe the woman as "fat"?

[@goldenagenut]

That's really pretty awful that her name has become synonymous with nothing. She wasn't nothing, she was somebody and a good person from all accounts. A virtual pat on the back for placing flowers at her grave. That's a fine thing to do.👍

[@chrishawkins-pt1mf]

The phrase " sweet fanny adams " . VERY inappropriate .. and UNKIND ..

[@melanie62954]

Is there no record of Frederick Baker's earlier life? Where he moved from? As others pointed out, it's unlikely that Fanny was his first victim, and I'm surprised no one has tried to retrace his steps and connect him to other unsolved murders.

[@jenreii]

Yes, I think maybe he could have been an early serial killer that was never connected to other crimes!

[@sherrylamb5820]

Well bk n those. Days. Was. Hard ppl bk then not to smart to think of those things. & lack of communication. Remember. No raido. No tv to inform ppl of whats going on like today.

[@Erizedd]

@@sherrylamb5820 Not really - they had telegraph for communication and newspapers every day, in some places twice a day (morning and evening), sold by town criers and stands that relayed the current news as well as any radio or tv of later years did. People were quite well informed about major crimes. It's much more likely that because it took place in a small town where serious crimes were rare, and whose local police force were almost certainly far less educated then those in the city, that nobody ever attempted to search for further crimes to connect with that (and it was likely beyond their pay grade and resources to seriously consider anyway). Even if they had investigated, and it had gotten nowhere, we probably wouldn't know because it's easy for such records to be lost to time if nothing became of the investigation. In a city where multiple murders occur (such as the Jack The Ripper murders), it's far more prudent for the police (or Scotland Yard) to investigate to avoid widespread panic and public scrutiny in their work.

[@avacatherine5646]

Little is known about Baker unfortunately. What is apparent from witnesses who lived in the town is that he exhibited bizarre and erratic behaviour and apparently was extremely pale, almost corpse like. There’s a book by David Green which goes into more detail but I have yet to read it.

[@dietotaku]

@@avacatherine5646 it's stunning to me that a new resident who was so widely known to be bizarre and erratic scoops up a little girl and the friend's mother's reaction is "meh, you're making it up." like first of all SHE CAME HOME WITHOUT FANNY, that's clue number 1 right there, and if ANYONE was gonna commit a crime for the first time in her lifetime, wouldn't it be the bizarre and erratic new guy?

[@alynsak]

Thank you for this video. I hadn’t heard of this and it’s absolutely horrific. I personally things it’s quite disturbing to use her name in such a derogatory way. She was a sweet little girl who was treated like garbage for sick pleasure. She deserves to be remember and spoken of with respect and empathy just as anyone else.

[@trevorjennings]

Hello Crystal, how are you doing today, hope you’re fine and safe from the COVID-19 virus??

[@bogwitchburke]

When you described sailors' offensive and insulting slang usage of the phrase, I got nauseated 🤢 I'm so glad Fanny managed to get justice in a world that seldom takes women and children at their word. You did great respect with the way you told her story, hats off to you, sir!

[@adrianwheatstone3855]

what a truly shocking story

[@jocelynneville8504]

People were insanely protective of women and children in the past. It's just the modern narrative that they used to mean nothing to anybody. They put women and children on a pedestal. Men worked because they thought women were too good and pure to work. That's why all the men on the titanic died to save the women and children. And I'm not saying it used to be better or we should go back to it. Just that they weren't look at as nothing. There's other cultures where when there's a shipwreck the women die because it's just everybody for themselves and the men are the first to get themselves to safety and the women are left behind. When the taliban took over Afghanistan this year most of the men just ditched their wives and children to try to get on planes for America, leaving them in the hands of the taliban. I watched the videos of them doing it. It was awful. That's what it looks like when people don't care about women.

[@shroomtastic4875]

@@thorlo1278 Allah means God... Please don't pretend Christianity and islam arent simply a different following of different profits teachings. They are the same, facts don't care about your feelings

[@shroomtastic4875]

@@jocelynneville8504 they were only protective of women if the women stuck to a very airtight set of rules. If you strayed from the norm, it would be hard to find even a husband to defend your honor

[@georgebailey8179]

@@user-xj4yv3qo3v You're using a scene from a movie to contradict actual records from the time? We know exactly who was on the Titanic and who died. Overall statistics: 20% of men survived 74% of women survived 52% of children survived Now, it appears that on other sinkings, there may not have been a "women and children first" attitude, but there clearly was on the Titanic. Some lifeboats were launched only partly filled because there were only men available to get in them. Men were also killed as witches. Men are the ones sent off to fight and die in wars - even today, women and children are being evacuated from Ukraine but men are not allowed to leave. What statistics are you referring to when you say "Statistics and reality show males always leave females behind and couldn't care less except when they can use and exploit them"?

[@fenixfp40]

A phrase my mother used when I was a child, but I never knew its history until now. Thank you. RIP sweet Fanny.

[@YourNightmare4u2c]

You told a very tragic story with much dignity, respect, and excellence. Very noble of you to tell this story and put flowers on the child's grave. Much respect to you sir!

[@diamondcascadeblackspring7260]

Indeed... This story needed to be told..

[@jazzie8854]

I was born in Alton and grew up knowing about Fanny Adams so im glad she's getting more recognition. Such a tragic story and she should be remembered

[@Denisejohn65NailEd]

I never heard of the phrase , but I’m in the USA . Poor Fanny Adam’s ….. maybe most people don’t know who Fanny is or the story . If they did , they probably wouldn’t say it . My Nann used to always say , “ well , I never “ What a great story teller you are !

[@helenbartoszek243]

The phrase is also used in Australia, (not so much with younger generations) but this is probably due to our connection with England. Somehow the phrase 'sweet Fanny Adams' has in England and Australia morphed into 'sweet FA' meaning sweet fuck all. Don't know how that happened!

[@nightfrost1891]

i've actually heard of it and and i like in the usa too lol but i've mostly heard it in movies/tv so never in real life

[@jlockwood65]

I use that one myself!

[@realcanadiangirl64]

I live in Canada and have never heard this saying before

[@katej3z715]

This was quite common with my Grandmother's generation. That use is now rather redundant as younger people have not known about the history and assume Sweet FA means.. erm.. Sweet F..k All. For example, "What did he do about it?" Response "Sweet FA!". It is a derisory comment but, thank goodness, a murdered little girl has been freed from association. If I do come across it, I will explain the history. I would rather have the modern use than the memory of this poor child disrespected.

[@TheDeathApart]

What a monster. Glad he got caught. A true storyteller you are, Sir. Thank you for sharing Fanny's story and keeping her lovely, innocent spirit alive.

[@moboyes4177]

The saying is no longer one to signify 'nothing' to me. It will be a story to share of a sweet child whose life was far too short and brutally ended by a man I refuse to remember. Sweet Fanny, loved and remembered by people who never met you.

[@stephenxx8045]

Mini violin....

[@kliofattal6506]

nobody cares

[@TheRealLucyMae]

I love how respectful you are when speaking of victims of crimes. Thank you for treating them as people rather than just characters. It sets you apart from a lot of other people, well done!

[@poliknoy]

Yes, especially the fact that he left flowers for her at her grave. It makes me appreciate him more than many others

[@JamesWarren-n5h]

I've lived in Alton all of my life. And as a child born in the 80's and grew up in the 90's, the tragic story of Fanny Adams brutal murder, was explained to us in primary school. The synonymous phrase "Sweet F A"and the macabre comparison of tinned meat to the remains of this innocent soul, was left out and was not something i learned until my early teens. Her memory will forever live on and her story forever told. Thank you for using your influence on social media and storytelling prowess, to bring us such captivating content. You, sir are a legend!

[@TheSalabama]

"Well. I never!", is a phrase used in the South that is used when one hears something so terrible or unbelievable there are no words to describe it. I am 80 yo and have heard it all my life, but have never heard where or how it originated. What an awful thing to have happen to poor little Fanny. So glad they hanged the monster that murdered her.

[@dafyddil]

I agree. The phrase they are referring to, though, is not "Well I never," but "Sweet Fanny Adams," an expression in the UK apparently. "Well I never" does not appear to be in any way problematic. What a horrible tragedy.

[@Raptorman0909]

@@dafyddil -- No, I think she is referring to the phrase "Well, I never" as being something 'too awful' whereas the phrase "Sweet Fanny Adams" went through several iterations and came to mean 'total inaction' and a euphemism for 'sweet fuck all'.

[@kimberleysmith818]

Well I never is used in Wales a lot

[@dicksicle1205]

@@dafyddil the name of the channel is Well I never.

[@anakelly76512]

Yep. We say that phrase. Along with "Bless your heart." I live in the South.

[@christopherfitzgerald774]

Having lived in Alton and some of its nearby villages, I knew of the connection to Fanny Adams and her tragic murder but not the gruesome details of what actually happened to her. Wicked in the extreme. Thanks for shedding light upon it.

[@lizc6393]

This channel is just incredible. Literally the same production quality as a Nat Geo special. Also, I somehow have never heard this story. I've heard of some horrible, gruesome murders, but this is wild... pedophiles typically strangle their child victims, beheading? Just horrible.

[@jannalam6861]

Then there was that pedophile Lawrence Bernard Singleton, who cut off his 15yr old victims arms, and threw her down a cliff where he left her to die. By some miracle she lived to tell the tale.

[@jannalam6861]

@@h0rriphic it was a long time ago. The girl is an adult now. You can find the story on KZbin too

[@jannalam6861]

@@h0rriphic Her name is Mary Vincent.

[@Jibbie49]

@@jannalam6861 But he cut her arms off , so they could not get fingerprints from her to identify her back then, as he thought he'd left her for dead. Google says: Released from prison after serving only eight years of his fourteen-year sentence, he went on to murder a woman in Florida, for which he was sentenced to death in 1997. He died in 2001 of natural causes before the sentence could be carried out. It is believed that he may have killed over a dozen women in his lifetime.

[@becausemynameiscommon5609]

Everything I read says that there was no sign of rape. That doesn't mean there wasn't though, just that with the knowledge available then they didn't believe any happened.

[@ITSMEAGAIN1]

I'VE HEARD THE SAYING GROWING UP. I'M NOW ALMOST 60 & THIS IS THE 1ST TIME I'VE HEARD THE STORY. SO SAD. THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO.

[@bumbabees]

it infuriates me to hear that Fanny's friend's mother dismissed the story because she was so certain nothing could ever happen. I can't entirely blame her, but that type of thinking gets people killed. as sad as it is you are never completely safe. don't be naive.

[@nielszindel1151]

Different times. Delia Morris

[@donnadavey5554]

It’s disgusting that the Tragic murder of little Fanny (on par with Jack the Ripper) became an off the cuff phrase for bad tinned meat! That is truly sick. The phrase should never be used again.

[@tyffaneelavely8087]

she could have AT LEAST checked to make sure u know?

[@TerraCipher]

@@nielszindel1151 Different times, for sure. But I can't help but think that if it was her daughter who got grabbed and taken away by the man, she would've dropped everything and ran after them. That's what a mother would do, no matter what. The fact that she did not think another person's child has worth even considering making sure that Fanny is alright is just shocking.

[@xiaohuli96]

@@nielszindel1151 you're telling me 200 years ago they didn't have common sense or empathy? 😂 no matter how "safe" a place is, it should be common sense to think something's up when your daughter comes home and tells you her friend got taken away by a man

[@dingleysquare3029]

If I remember correctly, we, as young children, used the saying "Sweet Fanny Adams" as a negative response to a question of knowing something. And I do not recall ever being told from where the name/saying originated. I personally did not know that a young girl named Fanny Adams ever existed. I am deeply sorry that this young child was besmirched in such a way. Coming from a "working class" family, I am aware of class structures and positions in society. However, to use the awful dismembering of this child as a common phrase for so long, beggars belief. We have a lot to learn, don't we? I do not recall hearing the phrase for many years so I am hoping that it's use has declined or even faded out of use altogether. Sadly, horrific murders have continued and the future does not bode well for their decline nor disappearance.

[@georgina-a]

Well said! I totally agree 👍 I remember the phrase from childhood, too, but always thought the phrase "sweet FA" stood for "sweet f--- all" & that the name "Fanny Adams" was made up - as a way to try and make the phrase more polite, but keeping the initials so that everyone knew what you really meant. I had no idea that she was a real person who had met such a terrible end & feel awful for using the phrase now! I meant no disrespect and certainly wouldn't have done so if I'd known the story... I thought I was using the "polite version" rather than swearing. I know that many of the "innocent" things in our society (particularly nursery rhymes) have unsavoury origins, but this is by far the worst. RIP Fanny Adams. I certainly won't be saying that sweet child's name in a callous way again 💕

[@MrsBrit1]

I've lived in the U.K. 18 years and had never heard this phrase until today watching this video. Hopefully it's not in the younger generations' slang, though I'd have a hard time believing most young people would ever use it, especially once they learned the true meaning.

[@Pythonette]

@@MrsBrit1 I think nowadays, they'd just say "F*ck All."

[@eh1702]

@@Pythonette That IS what it became a euphemism for. People have just gone back to the original saying.

[@ginathecookie]

@@eh1702 which is better than using an innocent victim's name

[@elainestokes2787]

I bet my life that Baker had previous victims; he had to have built up to a crime that gruesome. I've never used that phrase and I'm probably not going to start now that I know it's grim origin.

[@toxxicx]

there were more details left out. he definitely had to have more victims and probably just didn't get caught because he moved around.

[@melusine826]

Proper psychopath to be sure. And the sailors were pretty disgusting😡

[@loriyugen5430]

This was a cruel act of savagery. I can only imagine the fear and pain this poor girl went through. Being forcibly whisked away from her sister and best friend uncertain to ever see them again. Only then you wonder what ungodly things he did to the poor child. I cried knowing there could have only been one thing considering the outcome. The second most horrible thought was strangulation or beheading her while she was alive. He snuffed a life of this young sweet girl. I have a daughter myself whom I worry about the moment I don’t hear her. So I can sympathize with Harriet in the grief and loss of a child being taken from you, and having to continue on with life everyday without her. I pray they reunited together. 😭🙏🏼❤️

[@Tijnamrendrag]

This was the saddest story I’ve ever read. The story was told with compassion and dignity. Good job regaling the tale. Rest in peace sweet fanny Adams

[@kcbh24]

Why are you imagining this?

[@JoanCrawfordsghost]

@@kcbh24 it’s called empathy n thinking about the plight of others of which many spare themselves the sight

[@MetalheadChristian]

I’m American and I’ve never heard of the phrase “sweet Fanny Adam’s”, but it’s horrible that it’s used to describe poor quality meat. She was a child, she deserves to not be compared to meat. Heartbreaking case

[@judyvalencia3257]

Being American I've never really heard of this expression, except maybe in English movies. And here I thought horrible, gruesome murders were only a thing of modern times. That poor, sweet girl. He had to have been insane to do that to a child!

[@TXnine7nine]

Check out the story of HH Holmes and his “Murder Castle” in Chicago in 1893 during the Worlds Fair.

[@fearmonkey]

Look up documentaries on Albert Fish, not just modern times sadly.

[@jerrydrouillard]

I'm American. I know a band in the 1970s called The Sweet or sometimes just Sweet had a hit song titled Sweet F A. I always wondered what that meant, but you couldn't find anything about it in America. This was before the internet and everyone had access to computers at school, home, or the local library

[@Jibbie49]

I'd figured he sexually assaulted her and then killed her, and that has been happening since the beginning, but people just didn't talk about it. The by-line for the newspaper was "All the news that is fit to print."

[@nicolecheyenne7937]

You actually thought horrible and gruesome murders were only a modern thing? How does that make any sense?

[@cannonrange9977]

This is so humanizing, resonantly informative, and kind. So many things we say have unknown horrible or detestable origins, what saddens and often (maybe too often) frustrates me is how many people refuse to change the habit of using these terms when made aware of their meaning. I'm going to use "remember Fanny Adams" when I hear of adults disregarding the words/fears of children.

[@captainhindsight8779]

You’re a fantastic KZbinr and a breath of fresh air compared to the usual “content creators” on KZbin. Keep up the good work and respect for putting flowers on poor Fanny’s grave, may she rest in eternal peace.

[@mensafordummies6370]

My mother used to use the term 'Sweet Fanny Adams' whenever something went wrong. I always understood from her usage of the term that it expressed dismay over something that shouldn't have happened. Perhaps the British sailors thought the bad tinned meat was something that should never have happened, either.

[@powerful7661]

Well, starvation is no joke.

[@feddavandermolen-quest8388]

That is a very good thought.

[@julieelcock8477]

My mum also says "my giddy aunt and Gordon Bennett", she's 87 now and I think these names will disappear soon from people's mouths. Poor Fanny though, I always wish that bastards who kill children especially should receive the most painful karma

[@elsagrace3893]

MensaForDummies now it makes sense. Thank you.

[@AB-ju1ii]

What a disgusting reference to the horrific murder of a child. Shame on you for being stone cold hearted.

[@IIImobiusIII]

That was a beautifully produced episode, worthy of the memory of that unfortunate little girl. The expression only underlines the sheer unnatural quality of the act in stark irony. To trivialize the most monstrous of acts is one way to cope with life's intrinsic fragility and overwhelming uncertainty. We can more easily appreciate what is dear to us by the remembrance of what has been so cruelly taken from others.

[@pipgarden]

A sad story, elegantly presented and told with compassion.

[@Alonnah-78]

8:46 PM I'm in Mississippi This was the very 1st video I ever seen of yours And you got me the moment you touched that child's grave It takes a humble person to actually see the pain across your face Imo that child knew you were there Now I'll never in my life be able to add my voice to her sorrow But through you, I thank you, Cause I believe she could hear us both And knows someone in this world loves her

[@dowogenesthedog7186]

Eh? She's dead. Were you not listening? She died in the 1800s so it's quite sick/sadistic of you to think she's still in her grave listening away. Weird.

[@ocrotaigh5745]

The comment you've replied to is a hopeful abode to this poor girl. Leave it be just that.

[@Engelbird]

​@@dowogenesthedog7186well, like they said, "I'm in Mississippi"

[@SweetChicagoGator]

​@@dowogenesthedog7186 Why are there always evil idiots trying to mock a tragedy? Grow up little boy before you get to your Boneyard ! 🤮

[@rebeccataylor4809]

​@@dowogenesthedog7186some believe the spirit lives on as do I. Sending love to Fanny Adams does no harm.

[@mgkoenig69]

The respect you showed this poor child was an amazing breath of fresh air in an ever-worsening world of indifference and self-absorption. I commend you for it. Subscribed!!!

[@missinchoate]

I love how this is filmed rather than the usual sit down true crime moments

[@maryannanderson2213]

It is incomprehensible how Baker could have been so determined to kill Fanny that he abducted her right in front of her two friends and he murdered her even though there were two little girls who could be witnesses against him. I noticed that the crime took place in August, and he was hanged in December of the same year. I wonder how folks back then would react if they knew that a hundred and fifty years later, we would have prisoners sitting on death row for decades and finally dying of natural causes.

[@user-lz6dm5lk9y]

Exactly!!! We do not have justice against monsters in this world today. I screened another video recently about a man named Lake and his accomplice named Ng. They are believed to have killed 25 people. Upon being caught, Lake committed suicide. Ng fled but was eventually caught and prosecuted in California. Jury found him guilty of 11 murders, and he was sentenced to death. That was roughly 20 years ago, and he is STILL in prison. The documentary said it cost California $20 million dollars to prosecute him for the crimes, but in reality, it has cost tax payers FAR more than $20 million dollars because he is still being. housed, clothed, fed, and given medical care in prison. Just think how far $20 million dollars would go to helping our schools, the poor, children, the elderly, etc. I know people who worked hard labour job all of their lives only to "retire" on SS benefits so small that they would not cover the rent on the tiniest apartment much less the other necessities of life including medical care, yet we are housing monsters like these in prisons all over the country. People in other centuries in other cultures would never have been so stupid! Would ANY culture in the ancient world have done this, for example? Hell no!!

[@joannemadden7449]

And the fact that we feed, clothe them, not to mention medical care, TV, family visits and so on!!

[@lindacaldwell6251]

It's disgusting

[@dickbong3661]

@@joannemadden7449 ...Okay buddy, those are human beings you're talking about, and when they are being forcibly confined by the state, they do actually need to provided with things like food, clothing, medical care, and contact with loved ones. If those things are not provided, the institution is not a prison, it is a death camp. Which are generally frowned upon. Furthermore, there's ALSO a long history of people being wrongfully convicted, especially in the United States; one notable case that come to mind are a 16 year old boy who was accused of having started the Pioneer Hotel fire, with the 'evidence' leading to his conviction being that he was black, and the team of white investigators had 'scientifically determined' that the fire must have been started by a black person. He was proven innocent and released from prison when he was 58, and recieved no compensation from the state of Arizona for his wrongful imprisonment. Or like, just look up the reality of 'forensic investigations' and you'll see how complete fucking nonsense they are, despite being used as evidence to put people on death row - there's been multiple cases of people being sentenced to death because their hairs were found at the scene of the crime, only for it later to be discovered that not only was it not their hair, it wasn't even human hair. Like yeah this story is all very upsetting, but very few cases are as obvious as this one, and a lot of people are wrongfully convicted of crimes they did not commit. And even when the prisoners are blatantly guilty, the entire point of human rights is that it's agreed upon that literally every single human deserves to have them. And withholding things like food, water, clothing, shelter, and social contact? Those are all considered torture, which is generally frowned upon. Prison conditions are already really fucking bad dude, literally nobody needs to be advocating for prisons to be even worse. Sorry to hear about your soul getting lost, hope it turns up soon.

[@joannemadden7449]

@@dickbong3661 My Husband was murdered almost 6yrs ago AND the bastard is still walking around free, so excuse me if I'm running a little low on goodwill. I wonder just how much you'd have in reserve if the most precious thing in your life was torn away from you and U had to see the BODY TORN TO PIECES. This MAN made lunches and collected blankets for the homeless, help those kicking the habit and rather than take someone to jail when a store called because some woman or man stole food or diapers, he'd pay for it himself. Your right MY SOUL DIED WITH HIM, AND WHILE YOUR ON YOUR SOAPBOX, YOU HAVE NO IDEA, YOU ASSUME THAT YOUR THE ONLY ONE WHO KNOWS ABOUT THE PRISON SYSTEM!!!

[@Ninja-ty4lw]

I remember reading about this case in a book for my study. The poor girl, I hope she rests in peace.

[@grettagirl2884]

What a tragic story of an innocent child at thee hands of a depraved predator. Thank you for bringing this sad story to light, WIN.

[@gisellegonzalez2628]

Such a sad story, I’ve never heard of this saying since I live in the US, so glad they found him guilty and gave this pure soul her justice.

[@marklawson5542]

I have! Along with several others since I was born in '82. Guess it depends on people you know and who knows the tells!

[@louloustreasuretrove2122]

I have never heard this either since being here in the USA. I am also happy they stopped him from doing that again. Horrible sad true story . Very horrible.

[@countessli]

We hear/use it in Ohio.

[@Copeandseethe822]

@@countessli I'm from Ohio and I've never heard it before in my life

[@laurieb3703]

Same 💔💔💔

[@branfeather]

Your respect for the victim, and the way you tell the story without the rage that surely must be bubbling underneath over such a tragic and unnecessary death has earned you a new subscriber, sir.

[@pamelachandler1813]

I agree. I'm a new subscriber. 🙏🏻

[@Akiraknight83]

You are an amazing storyteller, I honestly never knew the story behind the actual slang …. Incredibly tragic and sad. That poor child deserved a chance at life. I’m glad I know her story. I do hope people stop using her name poorly - her soul deserves so much more.

[@pingaling9606]

This is my first video from this channel. The amount of effort into its production is insane. I can't believe this is really out for free 😭 Thanks so much and keep at it!

[@Traeseare]

Outstanding. As a professional in the death industry, I found your memorial to Fanny Adams to be tasteful, educational, and very meaningful. Thank you for telling her story... As long as we speak her name, she is still alive. Well done.

[@edwardmclaughlin7935]

Me and my wife visited Alton sometime in the 80s when we lived near Portsmouth. A lovely little town, we took a walk out by some meadows and on the way back, met a local man who told us this tale. The term 'sweet Fanny Adams' was common but we had taken it as the profane expression meaning 'nothing'. The tale as we were told included the further gruesome detail that Baker had strewn the poor girls innards on the hop plants and canes as though trimming a Christmas tree.

[@mandykeane196]

my wife and I

[@edwardmclaughlin7935]

@@mandykeane196 Congratulations your Highness.

[@mandykeane196]

@@edwardmclaughlin7935 lol

[@SilverSparkles22]

@@mandykeane196 🤡

[@CarniFitMe]

It's very upsetting her name should be used in such a derogatory way. I imagine, she still has family, and I feel absolutely horrified for them. Poor child, what a horrible end she met with. She should be remembered, honoured and respected. Name a park, a library, a hospital, a school, a street...after her. Let her name mean something important.

[@Nula7]

I feel so sorry for every victim that suffered this pain, abuse, and agony before their soul abandoned their body, it's horrifying :(

[@gwenkoppers9536]

This poor family lost their 8-year-old princess very brutally. My heart goes out to this family long after their deaths. There is no returning to any form of normalice.

[@loub.2992]

I grew up in a village close to Alton, Farringdon, and know the area well, so I grew up knowing the story (and the Sweet FA terms) and have also visited her grave. Thank you for presenting this gruesome story in a respectful manner and leaving those beautiful flowers for her. Seeing you there brought back so many memories of my past.

[@Mikesbite]

The saying has kept the memory of her alive. Her story hasn't faded in time like so many others. I never knew it all before. So Thank You for sharing it and indeed leaving flowers on the poor little girl's grave.

[@bonnielucas153]

I can't imagine a mother not taking her child seriously when she is told a man just took her other child

[@greatguardians1324]

Yeah but what a different time back then

[@anonview]

It wasn't Fanny's mother that Lizzie and Minnie went to. It was Minnie's mother. Minnie is Fanny's best friend, not her sister.

[@Erizedd]

That's because you're viewing it through the lens of modern thinking. Back then working mothers were busy as hell, didn't have time for a lot of the nurturing we do now, and kids telling tales was something they were used to and brushed off, especially if the idea seemed absurd or unlikely in their personal experience. Look at how some parents of kids who were abused by catholic priests brushed off or denied what their own children told them.

[@dietotaku]

especially one who had just moved to town. like it would be more understandable if it was "farmer thomas whose family has lived here for generations," but "that creepy new guy just snatched a little girl" didn't bother them?!

[@brattrox2939]

@@greatguardians1324 not really very different honestly. Both times (then and now) have child predators. Both times have busy careless mothers who would rather ignore their children than acknowledge children don't just make that stuff up very easily, both times have small towns that have a false sense of security. Minnie's mother was careless and Fannies mother was not, perhaps more concerned because it was her own daughter or maybe because of the time that had passed without seeing her. They may not have been fully aware of the atrocities that can be done to kidnapped women and children but they probably knew of some of the possibilities. Now we have news and investigative shows about what happens but then it was probably more up to their imagination and stories by word of mouth or experience. Regardless, you don't want someone taking your child against their will in either time.

[@freethinker1378]

Now I know the story of Fanny Adams, I choose to think that every time her name is mentioned, regardless of the context, her existence gets a spark of recognition - more than just a memory. Thank you for such a tactile reminder of a time long lost to these modern times.

[@kelleymaxwell3875]

Seeing you putting flowers on her grave brought tears to my eyes, I won't lie. Poor Fanny :( The phrase of Sweet Fanny Adams to describe canned meat is cold, but to use her memory to mean "nothing"? Spoiler alert for those who haven't watched the whole video yet...but Baker cut the poor child to pieces! Back then, the people might've thought she no longer resembled a human being, but when that monster paid the price and his neck snapped, no soul came out...he didn't have one. I'm not one to tell people what should/shouldn't be said...and I'm not saying this as a "pun", but the phrase is simply tasteless. R. I. H. Little Fanny Adams.

[@angelatewson8202]

I suppose navy life can be quite rough, and that the phrase might have come from the way she died. It's a British humour thing that when something really horrible happens, we make jokes about it to lighten the horror. So she was treated worse than a slaughtered animal by her killer. Maybe I'm stretching the point, but also then the 'nothing' meaning might have come from the general horror that she was treated without humanity. I'm assuming her killer was a psychopath, who took an opportunity presented to him. I don't think they had that word then to describe such people. He was obviously acting under delusions - he did not really make any efforts to cover his tracks.

[@angelatewson8202]

Just wanted to say I've never heard the phrase used for bad meat, but I have heard it used (in childhood) for meaning 'haven't got a clue'. I think it has more or less fallen out of use over my lifetime.

[@emogeane]

Thank you for sharing this story. I never knew... I'm shocked her name would be used in such ill manner. This made me tear up 😢 thank you for placing flowers on her stone ❤

[@TREVASLARK]

What I found disconcerting was that this "gentleman" was that crazy, yet appeared to dress well, and held down a perfectly respectable job. I am always very curious to know how neurologists and psychiatrists would analyze a person like this.

[@SilverSparkles22]

They walk amongst us

[@kimberlyelliott7933]

Psychopath

[@joannaennis7866]

Evil.

[@scheirainasande6916]

Check out the US Ted Bundy Dammer cases.

[@TREVASLARK]

@@joannaennis7866 To me, that doesn't explain anything. I want to understand at a psychological, neurological level.

[@kimberlypatton9634]

I think it is very disrespectful and cruel to make a mockery of such a sick situation...especially when a child was involved.Thank you for such wonderful in depth coverage,I have never seen it delivered with more compassion or thoroughness...that's just the great standard for this wonderful channel anyways...You placing the flowers in remembrance of that innocent defenseless child ,I think t here we're many of us right there with you...

[@donofon1014]

I do agree, but the tendency to make grim black humor continued. There is a litany of Helen Keller jokes ... and what do you call a man with no arm and no legs who ..... ? Art Matt Russell Bob Phil ...

[@AK94913]

Ppl weren't sensitive wet wipes back then like they are now 😂

[@x_astrid_x]

​@@AK94913sensitivity has nothing to do with the time period, it comes from within

[@squeeb8907]

Oh my gosh, I never knew that Fanny Adams was real! I've heard and used the saying before, but won't from now on. The little girl deserves to be remembered, but not likened with something without worth.

[@HurricaneKatrinax63]

Thank you for leaving her flowers. Seeing that touched my heart 💜

[@kai-isnt-cool]

you are an incredible storyteller ! it’s so heartbreaking to hear this story but the bit at the end where you sat flowers at her grave was truly touching. thank you for bringing light to this sweet baby’s story.

[@angelaferkel7922]

The moment in the video, where it wasnt 100% confirmed that she died, but the the image of Lizzy standing beside the gravestone really made me feel.. i cant even describe it🥺 Rest in peace Fanny❤️

[@daddynunya9045]

I don't like the context her name is placed in but I must point out that people that are worthless are not remembered. You Sir reminded the world that the flippant use of her name to signify nothing is as false a statement as can be made. God bless you Fanny Adams, and thank you Sir for clarifying the true worth behind her name.

[@poetsdreamsatc]

No one should be using that beautiful little girls name in such a morbid way. Bless her heart. She should be remembered in a good way.

[@rachiepants3408]

Wow I have never in my life heard that story (though I’m American so I’ve also never heard of the phrase ‘Sweet Fanny Adams’ either). Thank you for telling her story. What a horrific murder and that Fredrick is such a monster. The gall he had to show his face to the girls then STAY in town, like what?! RIP Fanny Adams💜

[@stevemarshall3481]

Wow, poor girl, Used the term a thousand times but never knew or actually thought of where it came from so thank you for telling this terribly sad story.

[@heidicross6878]

I don't think I could use it again in the context I have always used it. I am going to try and think of something positive to use it for to keep her memory alive and try to remove the disgusting "Bad Meat" meaning that it was originally intended for. How horrible that grown men should use the name of an innocent child, brutally murdered at the hands of a monster, to describe their tinned rations.

[@stevemarshall3481]

@@heidicross6878 I agree, I'm going to tell this story to as many people i can and spread the word, we used to live near Alton and never knew, on the sailors, different times and different attitudes.

[@justonemori]

As somebody that loves history I clicked on a random suggestion and glad I did. Loved the video so much I'm going to watch a lot more from this channel.

[@marilynelliott3236]

I never knew there was a real Fanny Adams, so it hasn't really told her story. I think we should stop using the term. Thank you for presenting this account with such care and compassion.

[@gailjoynt-sigley9929]

I use the phrase Fanny Adams as a form of endearment when a dear friend who I care for and has mental health problems is going through a rough time. I use it as a term of genuine affection because it can be difficult to know how to respond to her dark times. I had no idea of the history of that precious name. The real Fanny Adams in heaven with the angels. ❤❤❤❤❤

[@PlaneNuts2024]

It's heartbreaking to NOW realise that after saying this all my life that there's a tragic story behind it. I go to Chawton very often because I love to visit the Jane Austen Museum and I will ensure that I pay my respects to sweet Fanny Adams.

[@deefee701]

Please do so on all our behalves!

[@calonstanni]

So nice of you. 🥲

[@LifesPeachy321]

It's so tragic how this girl's memory was diminished to a reference to "things without worth!" Especially when it was the complete opposite! *_RIP Dear Child!_*

[@lornam3637]

It was Alton, Hampshire not Chawton where this took place.

[@alicem2103]

Send our love from the states 💔

[@kelleypendergraft2873]

That was a great story of a child who was aware of the fact that strangers can be bad and that children shouldn't go running off with a stranger for fear of what may happen. I've never gone off with a stranger or talked to anybody that wasn't family. I'm glad that she stood her ground and that she wanted to stay with her sister and her best friend. It's heartbreaking that she was taken by force. I would think that I would want to be remembered as a friendly little girl who loved people. I wouldn't want to be remembered as "nothing" or "poor quality meat". I wouldn't want the phrase "Sweet Fanny Adams" to be used any longer (it's as though the nail has been put in the coffin too many times here).

[@judyvidal1617]

Heartbreaking.

[@SecretKeeperForever9]

A 'great story' wtf. This was a little girl that was murdered and likely assulted. This is far from a great story to teach children not to talk to strangers. 😡

[@rebeccahicks2392]

Bear in mind, though, he wasn't a complete stranger to them. They knew him because their families had met him at church.

[@hauntedmushroomsasmr7716]

Oh my god. That is absolutely heart wrenching, that poor little child. It just goes to show that evil is not new at all, that horrible man. I absolutely love your channel, your vintage true crime is so unique and it’s a joy to listen you.

[@johndownward4722]

I think that your laying of the flowers on fanny Adam's grave was so touching. Thank you.

[@anikasvellte]

So heart breaking. Her innocennce stolen and brutalized to death by a monster . How could any one think it's ok to have her name disrespectfully used as worthless or nothing! No her memory of name and tragedy should never be used like that .

[@marmarbinx3458]

That was unexpectedly fascinating and very well done. I've never heard this story, but have definitely heard her name, never giving it a second though. I'm for sure subscribing. Clearly very well researched and presented, while remaining respectful throughout. I especially love the fact that you paid your respects at her grave. That was very sweet.

[@elevatorface]

I only ever heard this phrase a few times growing up in the 90s, that I knew it existed, but not its meaning. I'm glad it's rarely used now in the UK even if some people still know it. Fanny should rest in peace. I'm so ashamed that some of us can be so gruesome as to harm poor defenceless souls, and that some of us can disrespect a memory of someone real for no proper reason. Thank you for the video. I liked that you walked around the relevant locations, and that it was respectfully done. Very lovely touch.

[@sammyt3514]

I'm astonished at the nerve of the criminal that murdered that sweet little girl waltzing to a bunch of girls playing outdoors and snatching one of them in broad daylight despite the fact he was known to them from church! His murderous desire to do what he did to that poor girl must've clouded whatever little judgement he may have had. The one silver lining is that he was executed within a few months from committing that heinous crime.

[@melodycurious]

Having heard the saying for many years, this is the first time I've heard the background of it. So terrible and so sad. Thank you for sharing this forgotten knowledge with us.

[@melissafarrugia9531]

How horrific it would have been for Fanny and her family is just devastating. So nonchalantly mentioned in the dairy. It is not a phrase I'd want to use, now I'm aware of the soldiers reference, thanks for explaining Her story so well, most of all thanks for making Her story known and essentially prooving that Her life was "someone, somebody and worth something".

[@MyAltdraco]

I like the new 'on location' additions for your story! But wow, what a tragic tale. I love learning the origins of phrases, but that has to be one of the darkest origin stories I have ever heard.

[@rumdriven8259]

Never will I utter that phrase again. It's absolutely shocking what happened to Fanny. I can't articulate in words what I'm feeling after watching this.

[@BethBurns68]

Being American, I've never heard the phrase, but it's incredibly sad that it's used in such a way. This was a very sensitive and well done video. How sweet and kind that you placed flowers on her grave. Poor little girl.

[@carolglynn2599]

Iam Australian and have never heard of it either

[@suburbia2050]

You will hear "sweet FA" used in the UK as strong slang for not doing anything but most people would translate that as "sweet F@@@ all" as pointed out at the beginning of the video, surprised to understand its origins

[@amskazetoame]

I have heard this gruesome tale before, however it was not so eloquently told. You, sir, are an amazing speaker. Thank you for bringing light to this story. I’m from the US, so had never heard the phrase before, for which I am glad. I would say the term is disrespectful to her. But at the same time, as another commenter said- it has also kept her in minds for many years. A double edged sword indeed.

[@trevorjennings]

Hello Manda, how are you doing today, hope you’re fine and safe from the COVID-19 virus??

[@alisondark8183]

I grew up near London, hearing that phrase used occasionally by the older generation in the 1960s & 70s, but am certain that none of them knew the heartbreaking history behind it. More likely, since it became used by the navy, it was picked up by my grandfather who was a Waterman & Lighterman on the Thames. He would never have been so crass as to knowingly denigrate the memory of a murdered young girl. The term 'sweet F A' now means something different as you pointed out. In a perverse way, the sailor's crudeness has kept Fanny's memory alive, and if we should visit Alton then I'll certainly seek out her final resting place and lay some flowers too. Your tribute to her was very moving indeed. Thank you.

[@ml1049]

Very well done. The research you do and the background on the subject is making this one of my favorite new channels. Taking us to the actual locations just brings another level of authenticity to your stories. Thank you.

[@Lady-gd8zl]

Just discovered your channel.Fanny Adams story has always touched me with sadness. So tragically was this little girl taken from her family. This episode was wonderfully produced. I look forward to more episodes.

[@asphaltrox]

You told this story very well. It breaks my heart that her name is synonymous with "nothing".

[@GlenShannon]

I love how it's taken for granted that his social standing would easily deflect the ravings of lower-class women. Just like in Shakespeare's "Measure for Measure". Have we come any further since? Your videos are always very engaging and the lack of gratuitous sensationalism is refreshing.

[@jamesrogers47]

No. Social class and connections can still place a heavy thumb on the scales of justice when the victim (or victims) of a crime are of the lower orders and the perpetrator (s) are of high status. Equal justice under the law is a noble ideal, but rarely observed in practice.

[@scattysafari7742]

A similar thing happened to the girls who made up seeing the Cottington fairies. It was assumed working class juvenile females could not be smart enough to pull this kind of ruse, even though the eldest was artistic and worked in a photography shop.But because Sir Arthur Conan Doyle was deemed a credible source cos of his sex and education, his version of events was believed.

[@traceyculyer5811]

@@jamesrogers47 Agreed

[@ThimbleFox350]

Ehhh just kill the pedo it's the 1800s, there's no DNA. Just kill the pedos. Honestly ot sure why pedophiles don't get the death penalty.

[@HouseOfMitchell]

I was first told about this case about 20 odd years ago, it still haunts me today. This sadistic case is up there with the Kelly Ann Bates, Marion Parker, Sylvia Likens, James Bolger and Junka Furuta cases

[@mollyplutt9617]

Jessica Ridgeway

[@kimberlybaillargeon2575]

bringing the flowers to her grave at the end my heart melted poor little girl

[@Bibiana862]

@@trevorjennings what virus??

[@garethmorgan3665]

Like many others, I was vaguely aware of the phrase and knew its meaning but not the origin. I actually thought it was from American English.A really shocking case. Love your style mate, satorially and as a creator! Keep up the great work.

[@moonloversheila8238]

What a gruesome story. I’ve never used the phrase myself but I certainly heard it quite a lot as I was growing up in Lancashire. I knew Fanny was a real person but not the small details of her story. I’m glad Fanny is still remembered in Alton and people leave flowers at her grave.