Well There's Your Problem | Episode 68: The Nedelin Catastrophe

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[@2005Cardinals]

The fun thing about this podcast is that everyone who doesn’t like it is bad and wrong

[@RyanTennant]

Yes

[@rockaway0beach]

It's our litmus test

[@Fox-419]

this statement is fact

[@synthmage00]

As a fellow Ryan, couldn't agree more.

[@RyanTennant]

@@synthmage00 yes

[@evamiller4886]

They can’t fire Alice. She and the activate windows prompt have unionized. With their two out of four votes they can now block whatever motions they want.

[@SportyMabamba]

Just like Russia & PRC on the UN Security Council! *MASSIVE USSR DROP*

[@TheEnoEtile]

I think they fired Activate Windows though lol. But I'm pretty sure Alice is safe. Shed never make the unspeakable mistake Activate windows did

[@ZeRedSpy]

They could however put Alice on the end of an ICMB and deliver her to a location near you in just under 4 minutes.

[@lennartk6714]

I heard the activate windows button was on the Epstein Flight Logs

[@nicolescats2]

Pretty sure activate windows quit. It didn't sound like they were paying the logo, and no one should have to work for free.

[@rileynibhroin6395]

A guy fucking up to the degree that nothing is left of him but a charred medal and watch is strong "the ending to an insane short movie" energy

[@Yora21]

"Soviet Dr. Strangelove"

[@augustzeidman4443]

Fuckin Wile E. Coyote ass death. Surprised his eyebrows weren't left too to waggle at the camera

[@evamiller4886]

Seems like the ending to a Twilight zone episode warning us all about the dangers of nukes or something

[@Reddsoldier]

@@augustzeidman4443 or a sign saying "call a doctor"

[@Hotrob_J]

Picturing the shots of him checking his watch satisfied with how ahead of schedule they were, and once when he touches the medal and a blank spot beside it.

[@tarvisbickler3787]

Yellowstone here. The geysers are actually coal fired since 1958 when the earthquake was staged to hide the switch.

[@zyavoosvawleilte1308]

So the caldera explosion was a coal dust explosion?

[@tarvisbickler3787]

@@zyavoosvawleilte1308 The bison are also coal fired.

[@zyavoosvawleilte1308]

@@tarvisbickler3787 Is it like those old movies of "imagine a world without X" where x= coal?

[@tccam91]

As portrayed in Paul Walker's debut role, 'Meet the Deedles'.

[@Ingestedbanjo]

Are you planning to switch away from coal anytime soon, or would that provoke legal action from Wyoming?

[@bradreee7290]

Hey it's the safety third guy I'll explain a little more here. I was trying to keep it within the page so I had to be a little vague. But the rods with the 90 degree barbs on the end are the springs. You bend those back until they are in line with the hole at the top of the cone. After this all happened we did some jobsite science and when we released the spring like he did into his eye it could shoot through three pieces of cardboard. The hooks are a very shallow C shape and you insert the 90 degree bends into the opening in the side of the C. When you push up on the whole trim the rods spread back out sucking the trim into the ceiling. This is a common thing for me to do so I guess I take for granted that this concept is a simple thing for me and not for people not in the trade. I could do a million safety thirds for this single job lol.

[@drakinkoren]

"I could do a million safety thirds for this single job lol." Thank you for your service.

[@miabobeea2644]

Thanks for your contribution; hope your coworker's doing alright

[@25usd94]

fascinating. I hope you get to feature in a listener's special or something of the sort

[@johannageisel5390]

I did understand it. No idea why the podcasters couldn't.

[@bradreee7290]

@@miabobeea2644 well he's not my coworker anymore lol

[@SeanDDaily]

"We haven't knocked out their regifting capability, sir!" "My god."

[@LukeCorreia]

oh to be a tank of rocket fuel uncontrollably spewing corrosive orange gas onto the launch pad

[@patrickdempsey3515]

hey look it's the voice-actor dude, you have good taste in podcasts voice-actor dude.

[@25usd94]

I read this in luke voice too

[@TheFyroPyro]

Hey, it's the guy!

[@nofuxgavin]

Usually when that happens to me my girlfriend gets mad and I have to wash the sheets

[@GamerBurgerz]

Sounds like the last time I had enchiladas.

[@nialv7985]

Laughed way too hard at the "mutually assured friendship" bit.

[@roxannemoore9694]

Missed a trick on Mutually Assured Delivery

[@TheRealColBosch]

"Second present capability" is what got me.

[@mfThump]

Friends til the end ;)

[@charlesswenson259]

Mutually assured friendship.

[@frislander4299]

Mutually Assured Donation

[@robertprovencher5588]

Cannot stop thinking of geologists in 200 years digging through the California topsoil and finding a deposit of Wyoming coal and having to figure out what tf that's about.

[@bananian]

Imagine people complaining about old ladies being sue happy while states sue you for engaging in the free market.

[@Jakeurb8ty82]

A thin layer of plastic and underneath a much deeper layer of glass and bits of iron.

[@doctorworm420]

Rocz in Philadelphia: Hm I sure hope I don’t get killed by rocket debris Me in New Zealand 8k miles away: Hm I sure hope don’t get killed by rocket debris

[@tylerr5285]

@@EmeraldLavigne kilomiles really carried WTYP energy

[@HBOrrgg]

I just want to comment on this podcast's high production values. I've watched a lot of podcasts in my time, and they don't even have slides. This is the only one that is good.

[@EmissaryofWind]

Obligatory response to the russian pencil story: both americans and russians used to use graphite pencils, but graphite powder floating in zero gravity would get into all the electronics and short-circuit shit. NASA started working on a space pen, didn't really pan out, then the Fisher company developed one that worked, and now both americans and russians use them in their space programs.

[@Psy500]

Do they still use them? I would think PDAs would be cheaper and more reliable then space pens. I know IBM supplied NASA with ThinkPad laptop for space travel back in the 1990s.

[@plutodelendaest8241]

From what I gather, a standard ballpoint point, like one of the really cheap ones, would work in space just as well. As they are not in fact gravity fed. So in real life, as opposed to the apocryphal story, no one actually wins. But try telling that to the people who delight in telling the story like it has some sort of meaningful point.

[@TheScottWolcott]

@@plutodelendaest8241 Have you ever tried to use a ballpoint pen upside down? It stops working pretty fast.

[@SharpsKC]

@Cmdr_Hadfield · Sep 17, 2016 Sharpies are the writing implement of choice on spaceships. They don't care which way is up, and write on anything.

[@walterteply-schnabl6379]

@@TheScottWolcott But there is no real "up" or "down" in space, those labels are just applied for convenience usually in reference to the nearest body you are orbiting - or the "roof" and "bottom" of the spacecraft, but either of those could be pointing "down" towards the planet or "up" away from it at any given moment.

[@1121494]

Tacoma Narrows Bridge Episode coming up next, yay!

[@Nwmguy]

@@williamclark5859 what are you talking about? They are doing it next week. They said so.

[@flyingskier1913]

When California HSR opens right?

[@ayle1312]

Next one is ep. 69, it's now or never

[@michaelkenner3289]

It's about time they cover that Albanian national treasure.

[@superjoeyman1]

Hell yeah episode 69

[@NixodCreations]

56:29 fun fact: This is also basically how some sea mines are triggered. The little pokey out bits on the mine have a glass ampule inside that contain the acid half of a lead acid battery, and when a ship hits the mine and the glass breaks it flows down onto a lead cathode/anode generating a small current that trips the trigger and detonates the mine.

[@Holden.Tudiks]

I always wondered thanks for that

[@loaf8506]

those types of mines always remind me of finding nemo

[@schnoodle3]

which is why these types of mines remain dangerous for many years after they are laid

[@zyavoosvawleilte1308]

Fun fact, apparently marshal Nedellin was an artillery advisor for the Spanish Republic during the Spanish Civil War, technically making him an antifa before it was even cool to be one

[@TrashHeapCustodian]

Hey now it has always been cool to be an antifa

[@peterfireflylund]

So the fucker has always been on the wrong side, huh? The "Republic" consisted of a bunch of really nasty Communists who tried to enslave the Spaniards and who killed everybody on their own side who wasn't fanatic enough.

[@JS-tl7jp]

@@peterfireflylund the gall of calling someone else nasty when you got that haircut 🤣

[@peterfireflylund]

@@GeraintDafis no, but I actually know how bad Communists are. You can look up the numbers in the Spanish Civil War and you can read what the two main sides did. It is clear (despite the strong left-wing bias in most sources) that the Communists were monsters and that it was a good thing that Franco won. Please go and do the same.

[@fuzzydunlop7928]

@@peterfireflylund The Republic was a democratically elected government and the Soviet-aligned communicts only took power after the elected government fled Madrid early in the war. THE MILITARY COUP ATTEMPT DIRECTLY AIDED THE COMMUNISTS IN TAKING POWER. Fight me on this subject because I could bully your ignorant ass all day about it.

[@freeparking301]

I wonder if there’s an alternate universe in which WTYP does the Tacoma Narrows Bridge disaster every week.

[@nanothrill7171]

We're in the keyhole timeline where they never cover it.

[@ryans4877]

@@nanothrill7171 but they said they’re going to cover it next week. This time they’re for real, I can feel it

[@nanothrill7171]

@@ryans4877 and i know i shouldn't say it but i feel it in the aiiiir an episode about the tacoma narrows bridgeee

[@TuckerWhite94]

Yes, and in that timeline, the next episode is always the Boston molasses disaster.

[@xmlthegreat]

@@TuckerWhite94 no the next episode is always about Groverhaus.

[@pin0teres]

41:26 Nedelin: "I'm going to oversee this entire thing myself" Truly slavic leadership! 10 years ago certain Polish general said something similar and waltzed in to the cockpit of president's airliner during the landing in Smolensk.

[@davidwright7193]

That is episode 64

[@PobortzaPl]

"Śmiało, zmieścisz się" [roughly: go boldly, you'll fit it]

[@WingsStrings]

Mexico City used to just run narrow gauge steam commuter trains through the middle of the street until 1973 and they need to just do that again

[@williamchamberlain2263]

Makes sense: can't be much more dangerous than the trams in Amsterdam; those drivers have seen _way_ too many tourists to ever slow down to avoid a maiming.

[@ROMBomb001]

Fire Alice? Fire Liam? F--- no! _CLONE_ Alice and Liam so that we can have even more hilarious interruptions and the episodes can last for 6 hours 💖

[@pearceburns2787]

Send Alice and Liam into The Caves™

[@callumjohnston858]

Send them to podcast gulag, where the episodes are 14 hours long every day with no breaks.

[@fridaalmaraz6381]

Mexican here, who was raised in Mexico City, with a few comments about the God Damn News. First of all, it's a little sad that as soon as I saw this news, I was like "damn! my city will get mentioned in in WTYP!". Route 12 had issues since it opened, even much earlier than the 2017 earthquake. A few months after this line opened, they had to close an entire section because of problems with the rails, among others. I only got to ride this line once, back in 2014, and I was terrified the whole time because the train felt wobbly. The 2017 earthquake just made things worse. The older routes, the ones built in the 70s, were much better built and actually survived the 1985 earthquake without damage (unlike large parts of the city). For a long time, I would have felt safer from an earthquake in one of these stations than in my apartment building. The new lines? Not so much. The 1975 accident mentioned was also a subway accident, not a passenger train: a subway train rear-ended another one that was stopped at a station, and about 39 people died. For years, people would avoid the first and last cars in the subway for fear of this accident. If you wanted better chances to get a seat, you'd go to the front or the back. I always did. Also I remember at least 2 passenger train trips as a kid, departing from Mexico City, but this was probably before 1985, so the 1990s estimate for the disappearance of passenger trains in Mexico tracks. I lived in Mexico City till I was 40, and traveled by subway to school and work for years and years. This piece of news really broke my heart. Thanks for covering this accident, and reminding me of my poor, monstrous city that I love and miss so much.

[@coolmikefromcanada]

me: clicks on new WTYPP video "i've never heard of this disaster" "that looks like a rocket pad" ROZ: "what is a ICBM?" me: "this is going to be terrible or really funny"

[@ewanhogg3068]

To borrow from a different Alice podcast, "rocket fall down, Mr Osted".

[@coolmikefromcanada]

@@ewanhogg3068 indeed

[@Taschenschieber]

Why not both

[@Yora21]

Turns it it's both.

[@TiagoJoaoSilva]

Or? OR?

[@NPC45100]

This episode has gone on a shockingly long time without Alice doing the Soviet national anthem drop...

[@crutoniggy234]

I had to work with hydrazine briefly in graduate school. However, we were a biology lab and didn't really have space for reactive organics. So I expressed my concerns about safe handling and storage to my advisor and got a lecture about "not being afraid of chemicals."

[@crutoniggy234]

I only needed a very small amount, but the smallest bottle available was 100 mL, so there's a university biochemistry lab out there with a bottle of rocket fuel sitting unused in a spare flammables cabinet.

[@williamchamberlain2263]

@@crutoniggy234 What could possibly go wrong?

[@TheFirebird123456]

What do u need hydrazine for in a biology lab. The things hopelessly toxic as well as hypergolic.

[@crutoniggy234]

@@TheFirebird123456 My project was to controllably couple antibodies onto a macromolecular scaffold, so I was playing around with carbohydrate redox chemistry to try and link them through their glycocylation sites.

[@szurketaltos2693]

@@crutoniggy234 that sounds like a ridiculously huge molecule. What's the advantage of that vs normal antibodies?

[@weekendreligion5753]

Thanks to my ADHD, this is the fifth time I've listened to this episode and I finally *actually heard* the whole thing. This is a comment entirely on me and not this podcast which, unlike my mental health, is consistently excellent. Thank you seriously I really love your show ✨

[@danielled8665]

Mood, also same

[@carlost856]

It's also the same 5 time I've listened to this episode, but that's on account of how it's one of my favourites.

[@BlisaBLisa]

im on my second listen for the same reason. adhd isnt all bad :)

[@BlisaBLisa]

wait i think i misunderstood. u meant you watched it in five parts. im watching the whole thing a second time bc my memory is bad due to the adhd so its almost a new video to me

[@srjskam]

Meanwhile in the smoking bunker: Vodya: "Suka blyat what is that outside?!" Misha: "Is probably avrora borealskaya. Problem of somebody else." Burning person tangled in barbed wire choking on poison fumes: "Help!"

[@diestormlie]

"The Actors borealskaya? At this time of day, comrade? At this time of year? Located entirely within People's Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan, Comrade?" "Da." "Can I see it?" "Nyet."

[@drakkenmensch]

A giant construction truck that has been automated... this is no longer a truck, *this is a CONSTRUCTICON.*

[@Mercgribern]

...one could say it's had it's...constructor coding optimized?

[@joshuahadams]

Needs to be painted bright green with purple highlights now.

[@Runningfromtheredqueen]

Yay, more Milo. And Yay Liam and Alice, too.

[@TrashHeapCustodian]

And yay Rocz!

[@gabsrants]

"The present is also very heavy..." - I am dying here.

[@HeavyMetalMan3]

"and then he decided to direct the operation from a lawn chair, right next to the rocket" was the perfect time for that Soviet national anthem drop.

[@TrashHeapCustodian]

Hello I am Mikhail, local Soviet rocket builder #703, we are here to negotiate more and longer smoke breaks in deeper larger bunkers

[@MisutaaAsriel]

Having installed those trims before, I 100% understood the mechanics. Imagine a pair of chopsticks, that to "close", you have to fight the stiffest d*mn spring you've ever had to fight. They can be a PAIN to hold shut normally, and if you let go they will IMMEDIATELY spring back. (The springs are to force the rods into the hooks and provide tension). What it sounds like is, due to the undersized holes, when the dude was installing the trim, a rod clipped the edge of hole, causing him to let go of one of the rods. Thanks to the spring, it immediately flung outward, and into his eye. (For reference, I've fought those trims before because even with a normal hole you're have to hold the rods shut whilst standing on a ladder with no point of contact beyond your feet, being careful not to yank the socket out of the trim whilst you try to align 4 hooks on the spring loaded rods high up in the can.)

[@_oe_o_e_]

Yay Liam, but also Yay Alice.

[@BarackLesnar]

an important dialectic

[@Jacob-Day]

The Hegelian synthesis of Alice and Liam, Aliam.

[@thirdvect0r]

@@Jacob-Day ...Lice?

[@TalkingSoup]

i love how in so many of these there's some guy on site who is supposedly very intelligent and very in charge, who is yelling at everyone to do something incredibly stupid that then ends in death and disaster. and either no one is around to try and challenge him or he just shouts over the one guy who does.

[@Gantradies]

its prettymuch the soviet union in a nutshell >.

[@dorianvale854]

I'm really in my feelings about Alice and her role in this podcast, but just in the sense that I think she's cool and smart and funny

[@Taverius]

Ho boy RFNA before we really figured out how to stop it from eating through storage tanks, what could go wrong? 🧐 Btw, the book "Ignition! An informal history of rocket propellants" is basically WTYP but as a book written by someone in the industry, it's awesome. Btw2, in the industry they call it UDMH because its such a pain to say and write.

[@TiagoJoaoSilva]

Ignition! is the bomb. Oh yes.

[@Gantradies]

i still need to finish this one, im at the incident where his team almost blew up an aircraft carrier...

[@Gantradies]

I’ll say again, the book is 100% worth the price on Amazon/the kindle store, It’s easily readable by the layman (the author explains things without being condescending)- it’s a shame they didn’t write more books, afaik- Btw, the foreword is by Isaac Asimov!

[@ignatgrz]

My great-great-grandfather was named Mitrofan, so I always thought of it as one of the now uncommon, but not overly obscure name.

[@MilkmanOfTheApocalypse]

WE MUST NOT ALLOW A FRIEND GIFT GAP!!!

[@TheShadowBeastId]

Didn't want to let 'pyrotechnically-actuated podcast' slip by completely unappreciated, it's a pretty good description of the show.

What, no pinned Comment yet? Must be that this is unobjectionable.

[@excitableboy7031]

Usually takes like an hour

[@musclecat1005]

9 hours later and still no pinned comment. Must be a good episode.

[@MrTaxiRob]

the tankies were all in Russia for the Victory Day parade

[@musclecat1005]

Update: 23 hours.

[@dominichinde8405]

Liam always seems to sound a bit further away than everyone else. I like to imagine he's just sitting behind Roz shouting at / past him.

[@Turbobuttes]

It takes a special talent at creating catastrophes to have your catastrophe named not after the place it happened or the type of it but after yourself.

[@stephencody6088]

Liam be careful with that Sprinter: my GF saw a bunch off the road,tipped over because the wind in the Rockies was so bad.High gravity center. Good luck kid.

[@fishbowlfrank1678]

Loving the regular schedule. Yall are killing it as always

[@Jujudocine]

Timestamps! Maybe? If KZbin stops deleting them: 00:00:04 - well there's your problem 0:07:33 - the goddamn news (starting with Mexico's second worse train disaster -off: just read atlas shrugged and this is fitting) 0:12:00 - news: Santa Claus's revenge in Wyoming 0:16:23 - buytwominous 0:16:39 - are you compensating for something with this rocket sir? 0:17:30 - what is an ICBM? 0:20:58 - R16 0:21:30 - Justin says amongus

[@Anonarchist]

On October 23 2077, China and America traded presents, no one survived to see the gender reveal.

[@TheFirebird123456]

Fallout?

[@celebgil_silverstar]

Baby Showers, baby showers never change...

[@ViolentOrchid]

Are you sure this general guy wasn't working with the US to wipe out the USSR nuclear weapons team? Also, the USSR apparently was very good at implementing security measures but very bad at following security protocols. This shows you why you need both standards and practices, we love you OSHA.

[@Jablicek]

Hey everyone, hope you're all taking care of yourselves and staying well.

[@JS-tl7jp]

Thanks dude!

[@SamWhitlock]

I ain't worried about Wyoming suing me. It's a many fortnight's journey in the fastest Conestoga wagon to my jurisdiction, and I doubt they'll find adequate horse parking anyway. They'll have to hitch their horses up far outside of town and mosey all the way in on foot. And if my favorite childhood videogame was any guide on such a journey, they'll just drown trying to ford too deep of a river or die from dysentery on the way.

[@Mercgribern]

living next to Wyoming I can confirm the validity of their primary mode of transportation for official government business is, in fact, coal fired bison.

[@ClaudiaNW]

@@Mercgribern I'm now imagining a giant, steam-powered cast-iron bison rolling down a freeway at 8 miles per hour, blocking all the traffic lanes, on its way to serve process on the California Attorney General

[@jodifurstner-mclaughlin5933]

"Maybe you want second present capability" might be my favorite WTYP joke ever.

[@DeMause]

Good to know that real rocket engineers also fuck up the staging sometimes. Makes me feel better about always getting it wrong first try in KSP.

[@Raw774]

also, regarding the player piano thing, that was avionics back then and for quite a long time, I try and collect bits where I can find it. you didn’t have cost effective integrated circuits or computers so you did your math with gears and cam followers

[@williamchamberlain2263]

The videos on 1940s/50s fire control mechanical computers for US Navy have some crazy mechanisms.

[@TiagoJoaoSilva]

While f'n awsum, those are analog computers. The sequencers are more like the old program selector on a washing machine (the one that rotates and clicks each time something has to happen)

[@Raw774]

@@TiagoJoaoSilva oh shoot thanks for correcting me! I haven’t been lucky enough to come across something like that yet, I’ll keep my eyes open at swap meets once I’m able to go outside again and safely be around lots of people

[@zac9399]

fucking cackled at 3am from "I made him into an amogus"

[@leebird9023]

"it's in Ukraine at the time of this recording." as of March 6, 2022 it still is; hopefully it will stay that way.

[@theonewhosmellsverynice]

yep still here despite the haters' best efforts

[@jbkjbk1999]

@@theonewhosmellsverynice The Haters (Armed Forces of the Russian Federation)

[@theonewhosmellsverynice]

@@jbkjbk1999 they be malding

[@DeetexSeraphine]

January 26th... _still_ a Ukraine. This bid aged well

[@ebnertra0004]

May 5th '23 Ukraine remains, and looks to be here to stay

[@storeswallah]

Not to overlook the world's first intercontinental non-ballistic weapon, the Japanese Fu-Go, a lacquered paper balloon carrying small incendiary devices and one 15-kg self-destruct bomb, utilizing the jet stream. Over 9,0000 were launched (from the home islands) in the winter of 1944-45. The rainy season is not the optimum time to target western North American forests with incendiary devices. Landed Fu-Gos have been found as far east as Saskatchewan and Michigan.

[@jamesgornall5731]

That's pretty awesome

[@Tassalat42]

Top ten podcast to wait for my snake's dinner (mouse) to thaw to

[@williamchamberlain2263]

Do you microwave them, or put them in a bag and submerse that in water?

[@erintheunready7575]

@@williamchamberlain2263 microwaving a mouse is a good way to have small pieces of mouse pasted all over the inside of your microwave. They turn into mouse popcorn but a lot less cohesive I dunno what op does but I put mine straight in warm water to thaw

[@Tassalat42]

@@williamchamberlain2263 I put them in a ziplock bag and submerge the bag in warm water. Microwaving a feeder mouse would risk cooking it, and snakes cannot digest cooked meat.

[@Raw774]

this one sent me, the USSR has the best engineering disasters (with slides)

[@ericmudgett9811]

Amogus, on my favorite podcast. What is life

[@25usd94]

I died

[@Holden.Tudiks]

"Turns out dog does not like space" *pained laugh*

[@laurenmichelledeufel]

Mutually Assured Friendship is something I have kept with me since this episode came out Lolol. Love your podcast, your perspectives, your guests. I’m so glad I found it and I hope more people do. I recommend it to everyone I think would be remotely interested.

[@sammason9763]

In hindsight, the Ukraine jokes are still a little funny

[@murciadoxial8056]

well, they are funnier now since they were wrong about russia annexing ukraine in any way

[@JrgPt96]

rocket fall down mr. Bond

[@itsvondell]

I've been falling asleep to WTYP and I just dreamed that I was listening to an episode where the fire suppression systems on the world's biggest cigar stopped working and a guy smoked it and died

[@ClaudiaNW]

Marshal Nedelin's excessive courage makes me think of that Terry Pratchett line about how cowards make better strategists, and you don't want a general whose plan is "I want fifty thousand of you chappies to rush at the enemy".

[@davidwright7193]

You can use one missile to deliver presents to several friends at once so long as they live close enough together.

[@collegiatebuilds4505]

25:38 oh boy that aged well

[@TheRealE.B.]

Something I recently learned is that, instead of the cheap $1 safety glasses that every job site hands out for free, you should get a decent $10-$20 with anti-fog lenses so that you aren't constantly tempted to pull them down to see better. I haven't tried them in cold weather yet, but they stay clear if you heavily exhale directly onto them at room temperature, so...

[@William-Morey-Baker]

They don't work in the cold... I've used the more expensive ones and they're junk

[@TheRealE.B.]

@@William-Morey-Baker Drat. Still good for summer, I suppose. Especially until masks go away.

[@scorinth]

Always a pleasure when I rock up to the office and find there's a new episode to keep the ennui of endlessly drawing and reviewing schematics at bay.

[@Watashiwadeus]

OKB wasn't necessary a sharashka. It's just a "Experimental construction bureau" that was dedicated to developing a certain branch of tech. Sharashkas could be labs, institutes, KBs - the only defining thing was that they were established under either KGB or MGB (general police and penitentiary system)

[@niagarawarrior9623]

1:06:44 I might be wrong, but technically, didn't the USA precipitate the Cuban Missile Crisis by placing their short range ICBMs in Turkey first?

[@kensurrency2564]

Sounds like a solid root cause analysis to me. I’ll allow it!

[@chancekahle2214]

Yes. Debate the wisdom of Soviet nuclear policy all you like, but their position was fundamentally a defensive and reactive one.

[@PobortzaPl]

Soviets took their missiles out of Cuba and USA took their missiles out of Turkey. "That's Détente, Comrade; *You* don't have it, *I* don't have it." (I have to check if their pointed this quote on KJB)

[@zachjordan7608]

this is really old but they also precipitated it by doing an insane amount of terrorism to cuba and looking like they were preparing to invade. there is no way to interpret the soviets sending nukes and troops other than as defensive action also listen to blowback season 2

[@joearnold6881]

Watching those tiny people, completely on fire, scattering as they flee at random, then falling and laying still while they continue to burn... That’s grim.

[@ValarnarDM]

Soviet rocket fall down Mr. Bond.

[@ryans4877]

Yay Liam Also yay Alice Furthermore yay Roz Edit: in conclusion yay Milo

[@pyrophred]

Sees picture of can light trims: 'Someone lost an eye didn't they?' There's a special hell where the people that design shit like are required to install them, with the instructions that they came with, for all eternity.

[@enriquekahn9405]

I traveled by rail a few times in Mexico in the early 00's. Trips took twice as long as they did by bus and there seemed to be literally no limit to the number of people they'd stuff into a car, to the point where there would be people sleeping in the toilets on overnight service. Still, it was hella cheap. They also had a Pullman service on some lines. I went on the Monterrey/Mexico City line round trip. I'm also like 90% sure touring services to the Cañon del Cobre were kept even after most of the long-haul passenger services were canceled.

[@ceibacat]

milo's joke at 25:35 aged like a fine single-malt whiskey

[@nrok113]

in Ukraine - for now - at the time of recording, hits a little differently now

[@pugzilla330]

are you okay bud?

[@frozenchikin6321]

The worst fate known to man:becoming an amogus

[@inq101]

Turning oil back into fish? Does that mean the Deepwater Horizon was BP trying to go green?

[@djhakase]

That Safety Third is straight out of Un Chien Andalou 👁

[@roguetamlin]

I had a Soviet watch and it once fell on the floor and broke the floor tiles.

[@johannageisel5390]

Bad quality watch then. Usually they punch a hole through the Earth's crust and crystallize a chunk of magma around them.

[@bmortloff]

Pilot movements are bad but the cases are like depleted uranium.

[@GoredonTheDestroyer]

There's actually an interesting note about the "NASA spending however many millions to create a pen while the USSR just used a pencil" anecdote - The _reason_ NASA spent however many millions to develop a pen that works in space while the USSR just used a pencil is because NASA needed to create a writing implement that could work in space _and not produce debris._ The Soviet Space Pencil(TM), while incredibly cost effective because you could just use any ol' No.2 actually had the potential to cause, among other things, a fire aboard a spacecraft, which would have been the subject of an episode of the podcast, if that ever happened as described.

[@fourteen-steps9434]

I can't believe you missed "EyeCBM" when you were joking about the springs being eyeball seeking missiles

[@blindsniper35]

You should cover the time when a guy dropped a socket on a Titan 2 missile causing it to explode. It's a lot more complicated than that and also involves really nasty compounds UDMH:hydrazine 1:1 and NTO.(also will tie nicely into the theme of safety third)

[@curranbeckler9323]

The Damascus incident! I remember seeing a PBS thing on that once, I think it also had the bonus of maybe nuking the nearby DNC

[@Lustigerpete1]

I love what you guys do here. Also, Alice's contribution to this podcast is definitely the most substantial and the most valuable.

[@v3ck1n]

Haha, good joke.

[@MeonLights]

I'm watching all of these sort of out of order and can I just say the Ukraine jokes aged... interestingly lol.

[@vurpo7080]

Well, Ukraine was being invaded already since 2014...

[@mono.isgtds]

"my name is marshal Nedelin, and welcome to jackass".

[@llehctimttelrap]

Working for 72 hours straight is how you avoid shift changes and all the engineering disasters they cause

[@OriginalPineapplesFoster]

You've just solved disasters in all kinds of industries. There's no way to go wrong with this logic. 😂🍍

[@king40606]

The Ukraine joke at 25:35 aged like milk LMAO

[@Lessinath]

The best thing about always being late to the podcast uploads is that the comments are spicy already by the time I get here.

[@Shokuju]

25 minutes in and I'm having to check when this was put up. Congrats on the evergreen episode y'all.

[@hpoz222]

the wyoming thing is literally that mr show episode where a film studio sues to make everyone in the us watch their movie

[@pamdemonia]

It's amazing how much of that show was flat-out predictive.

[@Ofenlicht]

Those Ukraine jokes at 25:30 hit different now

[@shift9303]

Nomenclature will vary slightly from place to place. But generally CCU stands for cardiac/coronary care unit; an intensive care unit primarily for cardiac problems. Where I'm at the unit for level of care between the ICU and the general floor is called the progressive care unit (PCU) or step down unit (SDU).

[@williamchamberlain2263]

I assume that someone's already said this, but read _Ignition_ - it's an amazing book about an insane period of rocket development.

[@williamchamberlain2263]

Found it;. Ignition! An Informal History of Liquid Rocket Propellants by John Drury Clark, 1972 And it really earns that exclamation mark.

[@princeoftonga]

5:08 every 10 years or so someone in the balkans just yells out CHANGE PLACES! and all the countries swap randomly. I want that now.

[@johannageisel5390]

"Wait, I booked a beach vacation in Croatia; where is the coast?" "In Slovakia." "And where am I now?" "In North Macedonia."

[@johannageisel5390]

@daniiel mlinarics That's lame. The switching should constantly go on for about three days. On day three, the stop signal is given and every country keeps the name it currently has for the next ten years.

[@Irondrone4]

As someone with a passing interest in the game Stormworks, I am now convinced that fire and rescue operations can now be conducted remotely via ICBM. Your local fire department is now a nuclear-powered submarine loaded with ICBMs that can be launched at emergencies anywhere within your hemisphere, possibly even around the entire globe. In fact, why have local fire departments at all when the entire world can share a fleet of fire-fighting long-range submarines? This would also globally save money in the long term, as you only need enough qualified first responders to deploy the rescue/firefighting/paramedic missiles, drastically saving on overall personnel costs. The submersible component is essential due to the need for rapid re-deployments, which may involve traversing adverse weather cells that can be completely bypassed by sub-surface travel. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk, if you are representing the UN and are in need of an ideas man I will happily quit my job to come think of other good ideas for you.

[@ColonelAsshat]

if episode 69 isnt actually the tacoma narrows bridge there will be riots

[@thewingedporpoise]

Episode 420

[@memomorph5375]

47:23 NSFW but the funniest thing I’ve heard all month. thank you, Milo Callback at 50:07 now that’s efficiency!

[@maglorian]

Today’s episode was such a friendly affair, I loved listening to it very much

[@ericew576]

Yay Liam!