Welt SUCKS with DOT? | Honkai: Star Rail PvP Reacts

[@mrpokkee]

Keeping it a buck, I'm closer with Smack thats why I wanted to banter more. Off meta teams are always fun

[@deyzick32]

WE STAYING NEUTRAL WITH THIS ONE

[@Yolbert]

yes pls banter more its fun content

[@АрсенСаркисян-й9у]

Belabog enjoyer💀💀

[@АрсенСаркисян-й9у]

Respectfully😂

[@maseprins3434]

Lmao Gacha Vs Pokke is the greatest red Vs Blue rivalry ever. "Respectfully"

[@MolcutRegele]

Cannot wait for gachasmack to react to this and start a new yappfest.

[@fyw_delta]

gachayap😭🙏

[@jsk1429]

He already did on stream

[@Accountthatexists]

Smack and pokke have a back and forth wholesome internet war, it's very fun

[@DarlingOhayoMilwin]

Fluent in yapanese

[@idk6465]

He can't defend it, he knows this was sub par.

[@zeyez4961]

Gacha Smack could have used Misha in place of Welt for "SUS"tain purposes and gain extra turns because of destruction or hunt "extra turn" from the weather... but not many people paid attention to his kit yet, which can, at least, almost guarantee freeze against one target without any EHR investment

[@heisenburger16]

I dont think he even built Misha at all

[@e_x_c_u_b_i_t_o_r_ejiysb7169]

The enemies needed breaking so Misha is not applicable

[@keneunaegbu851]

It's not that deep...

[@marielgalicha8548]

I heard he still haven't even touch and built Misha at all... Pretty sure he doesn't know his whole kit yet

[@Accountthatexists]

Uh nobody built misha and since he's a boy he gets sent STRAIGHT TO F TEIR because nobody cares

[@nequitia4665]

DoT + welt + MoC debuff = the most backloaded team in history

[@NorthernWind26]

Cry

[@kuvjason7236]

Ngl, this was theee easiest MoC ever and I didn't even run a DoT comp... just the usual dps and supports

[@marielgalicha8548]

​@@kuvjason7236 I agree and since everyone have Dr. Ratio... He literally carried me in this MOC

[@-Insert-Name_Here-]

I agree the team comp is really soild if you aren’t trying to 0 cycle

[@morrowthewizard3945]

Backloaded into 3 rd cycle

[@Azeria0955]

the vulnerability debuff from black swan is only at the enemy's turn so it wouldn't really change much. 7:46

[@rikkucrowe]

Ok that's what I thought when he was saying that I was like am I tripping did I read her kit wrong

[@jantrm4816]

Ultimate Bliss of Otherworld's Embrace AoE | 120 energy cost Lv. 10 Energy gain: 5 Break: 60 Inflicts Epiphany on all enemies for 2 turn(s). Enemies affected by Epiphany take 25% more DMG in their turn, and their Arcana effect is regarded as Wind Shear, Bleed, Burn, and Shock effects. In addition, when their Arcana effect is triggered at the beginning of the next turn, the Arcana stacks are not reset. The stack non-reset effect can be triggered up to 1 time(s) in Epiphany's duration, and its charges are replenished when Epiphany is applied again. Deals Wind DMG equal to 120% of Black Swan's ATK to all enemies.

[@Yachii]

If you use ult in between 2 attacks by the big enemy does it keep vulnerability?

[@rikkucrowe]

@@Yachii yes because it's there turn

[@drakeeybro]

Asian Tectone Vs Black Tectone

[@tucosalamanca5818]

Here's what tectone would look like if he was black or chinese

[@cursey7304]

​@@tucosalamanca5818 why not furrify him instead?

[@Gottaloveaxolotls]

@@cursey7304I’d strongly recommend not but that’s up to whoever wants to either draw or cosplay that. Not me

[@thederp9309]

@@GottaloveaxolotlsTectone would start yapping like a chihuahua if he was furrified…. That’s his fursona now… let’s make it happen

[@Vailsiren]

"This is what you would look like if you were black or chinese" -Pilgrim

[@edwinchew6]

BS vulnerability debuff is only during enemy's turn lol

[@marupurusaivamsi4802]

Yeah everyone forgetting or overlooking that. I would have made good otherwise out of dot teams.

[@pinkinglily6447]

It used to actually apply the vulnerability debuff normally back when BS kit are leaked, but I guess pokee missed the change

[@QuietCrow009]

it can still be used if you can interrupt 2 turn bosses.

[@411mklr]

Need a Smack vs Pokke 1v1 when Sparkle comes out. Smack with Sparkle and QQ v Pokke with Seele and Sparkle

[@GachaSmack07]

GENUINELY! RESPECTFULLY! NEUTRALLY! 😡

[@mrpokkee]

DADDYSMACK

[@xtiyan2250]

Smack basically fit his favorite characters in one team.

[@eden5560]

One thing that Pokke misinterpreted is that Epiphany doesn't give vulnerability nor does it buff non DoT dmg. Epiphany gives a dmg taken bonus, so its like a dmg bonus on the DoT's, also, the dmg bonus only triggers at the start of the enemies' turns, so Destiny using it just to proc Ratio's Wiseman's Folly isn't really much of a misplay by her. There is a way for non DoT units to benefit from Epiphany, but their actions would have to happen in between an elite/boss mobs turn and extra turn, so even if she saved for that, it wouldn't be much for anything, since Kafka was already down the action line and the Aurumatron was weakness broken.

[@joaquinchua3348]

Gacha Smack in his video : I am one of the BEST HSR players in the world Also Smack :

[@tobizerker4153]

Pokke and smack are deadass like me and my brother.

[@whizzo7893]

I think it’s pretty established that Welt + DOT in limited cycle clear stages (MOC/Pure Fiction) sucks. Welt’s CC in general actually kinda sucks for timed clears. However… Welt + DOT is actually insane in Simulated Universe. Granted, almost anything can work in SU, but since you’re not timed, you can just take your time stacking them big juicy DOTs.

[@dannylee1523]

Simu is also progressively harder with the special modes - you can actually straight up die so survival tools are more beneficial.

[@mrdeafter]

you can only stack wind and arcana tho ? stacking other dot only extend their duration not the damage. Welt+Dot in SU is literally a troll build without Kafka because enemy never get to have their dot proc. But tbf I like troll build lol

[@-Insert-Name_Here-]

Welt ain’t bad, he’s just not meant for speed running, but if your not trying to 0 cycle or clear quickly, then this team comp is really solid for its low failure rate

[@dreamwelch8100]

Welt = Sampo(random hit)😂 That's what I don't like about using Welt in MoC😆 Welt as sub dps = approve😎👍

[@danielevans1734]

​@mrdeafter there is a nihility blessing in SU that let's anyone proc dots when they hit enemies like kafka's skill does, so u can use welt to abuse turn order and have ppl constantly proc dots on enemies in SU at least

[@skel-ator]

11:30 Man this absolutely shattered me and destroyed me, my Jingliu has 177 cdmg and I thought I was doing pretty well Now I realize I was doing terrible

[@PersonaPrime]

HOLY BACKLOADED DMG

[@goodmoringful]

I don’t remember what video but I’ve heard how Welt can’t synergies with dot comps because of his canceling on dot damage. I think god doggos should take welt instead, cuz of how imprisonment synergies with freeze. Then Gachasmack can trade welt with Pela. With freeze you can still apply dot and gets it triggered after freeze effect disappears.

[@jakit0556]

crazy to aknowledge that the best clear was from himeko asta

[@PK-mh9qf]

Secret DoT synergy: After an enemy unfreezes, they gain a 50% action advance E1 March with Vonwaq and 4pc Wind set would've been a more fun showcase than Welt. She needs a metric ton of effect hit rate though, and enemies like Kafka will always have a chance at resisting the freeze.

[@jantrm4816]

Ultimate Bliss of Otherworld's Embrace AoE | 120 energy cost Lv. 10 Energy gain: 5 Break: 60 Inflicts Epiphany on all enemies for 2 turn(s). Enemies affected by Epiphany take 25% more DMG in their turn, and their Arcana effect is regarded as Wind Shear, Bleed, Burn, and Shock effects. In addition, when their Arcana effect is triggered at the beginning of the next turn, the Arcana stacks are not reset. The stack non-reset effect can be triggered up to 1 time(s) in Epiphany's duration, and its charges are replenished when Epiphany is applied again. Deals Wind DMG equal to 120% of Black Swan's ATK to all enemies.

[@WizzyTheDizzy]

Gacha Smack: Here is the best guide on the internet and i am a math enthusiast! FOLLOW MY GUIDE Also Smack: Use Dot with Welt, Crit TingYun with not enough atk. Release guides of Hp orb blade and crit kafka. No offense but these are so fking dumb.

[@Kurppalumppu]

13:04 That Luka basic ATK at level 4/7 is certainly something alright...

[@shyamakpal]

the bleed reproc scales of talent not basic atk level

[@elynna2483]

Gacha Smack doesn't even take the full potential of MoC buffs lmao. Not even a single destruction or hunt characters. The worst part is, Welt is stalling the DoT lmao.

[@blazetaro1304]

In this tournament they didn't have a lot of choice to pick characters because of the rules

[@joaquinchua3348]

They used a pick and ban system, much like the ones league uses for their competitive games, they drafted these teams if their own accord based on the pick/ban phase.

[@shotgunammo]

Misha??

[@blazetaro1304]

@@shotgunammo gacha smack did not build misha

[@muhammedsultanmustapha6571]

i honestly think arcanas damage on that horse wasnt realky useful because of 40% resistance to wind. Stacking arcana with kafka would have cleared it slower.

[@JingleJohngle]

Your look in the intro with the glasses and hair reminds me of Sinu Han from Lookism

[@dvornikovalexei]

His Welt sucked because it wasn't built properly. My 150+ speed Welt on Wind set with Kafka LC would have sent Pokeclown grasshopper munching back to the land of Chowmein

[@Modou_Desu]

9:25 imagine this hit didn't crit😂😂😂

[@relter-qj4pd]

I don’t know if Mrpokke you know this or not and i don’t know if Gachasmack explained it yet, but his idea behind this team was probably for welt to slow so his luka and Black Swan could stack their DoTs before the enemy’s turn, he just executed it rather poorly(not saying i can do better). Nice video though!

[@tigrang493]

the gachasmack Welt classic is iconic idc if it takes him 20 cycles to clear

[@naufalsyauqifillah6388]

Better watch sir gachasmack bout why he pick welt bcz it just like no other choice for him...

[@shotgunammo]

misha woulda been better but sure no other choice right

[@bepo1702]

@@shotgunammo he probably hasn't built misha lol

[@EmperorMist]

Neutrally speaking facts

[@Celbrant_Artist]

"Not going to be a very fast clear, not gonna lie" "I would be very surprised if they manage to get a 2 cycle, ill be very very surprised" Proceeds to get mad at moon for not playing it the way he would play it. Then gets mad over the speed tuning and then moon ends up with a 3 cycle lol. Not putting much faith in moon 😔I honestly thought it was impressive how they casted BS and Yukong's ult after ratio because he was going to get the crit from Yukong with the follow up. 7:00 If you look at the aurumaton's bar, it indicates that it has def shred from Black Swan. Epiphany only takes effect on the enemy's turn. Even when casting the ult in battle it specifically states "The Dmg received increases by 25% during this units turn" So how was that a misplay on Moon's part? Let's be honest 1-3 cycle clears are on the low end of clearing. I think 4-5 cycles is cutting it close and 6+ cycle clears make it muddy.

[@tayyabo]

Welt was a weird choice with dot, especially because he wasnt using kafka..

[@oyfum2638]

He claimed Kafka cleared slower. Can see why since Kafka (the boss) has lightning res.

[@athir04]

Yup really weird choice with dot, maybe better if run Hypercarry Welt

[@PersonaPrime]

@@oyfum2638 not using Welt and using literally any sustain would have been faster.

[@tayyabo]

@@athir04 prob would have been better..

[@xMomoee]

​​@@oyfum2638 Kafka + Luka would been a Better pair Yanqing is the mistake here the team should been Team 1: SW (DPS), BS (Def shred Sub DPS), Pela, Gepard/Lynx. Team 2: Kafka, Luka, Tingyun, Welt (Cause he needs welt to destroy the horse).

[@maddasher8471]

maybe one day I will see a hypercarry welt.

[@rsrafi182]

i have a quick question , how is wind set with black swan? she is at 148 speed with usual stats .. i pair her with 153 kafka with her arti . should I keep it or burn my resin to farm dot set?

[@violet_lilac]

She doesn't ult that often, only Pela can use that set.

[@AstaDemi]

Ur black swan should be faster* than kafka

[@michaelyang838]

???? If you have Kafka as well why would not farm the dot set

[@michaelyang838]

@@AstaDemidon’t be a clown, it is not a “must”, swan doesn’t do dmg and zero front load, the only benefit is the 20% def reduction, but if less speed meant much more atk, it would make her high scaling dot do much much more. God most people don’t know shit about how speed works, just put it on everything. There is no bigger clowns than dhil with speed boots

[@AstaDemi]

@@michaelyang838 Chill Bruh 😂, the only reason I said BS should be faster than Kafka is cause Kafka can trigger the dots of BS and so he/she can do more dmg. I understood your point so it's cool and I just gave out my point of advice Nothing else. And bud pls try not to be so aggressive unnecessarily, it's not that deep 💀. Peace 🙌

[@syedmusaddiqmoinuddin4760]

He could have used either luocha or fuxuan but welt 🥴 he proved prydwen ranking correct 😂

[@PersonaPrime]

Fu Xuan, yes. Luocha was banned.

[@XMS1212X]

I hear grimro, why did he stop making videos I wonder

[@michaelraj5626]

@mrpokkee you didn't forget the Banning system in this tournament right??? Gacha smack choose Welt for sustain purpose bcoz they don't have a choice!!!!!😂😂😂

[@dr.stonksakahelth5857]

Both teams only take one sustain lol

[@xMomoee]

Lynx left the Star rail Universe. I think he mainly choose it so that he can trim down the Horse that's why he's using full Tingyun buff on Him (Welt) on First phase.

[@zannax351]

Fu Xuan and lynx were both literally still free fuck you mean "no choice" ??????

[@Steel12able]

@@xMomoee He chooses welt sustain it helps on breaking shield bars.

[@thornszk]

luocha as well

[@notnotnotyou]

8:35 if yukong skilled, wouldn’t ratio have to do a NA because of sp?

[@superblanco444]

great banter

[@chaldea_]

The Smack banter JAJAJ

[@sauravsingh3448]

Cooking today?

[@dreamwelch8100]

11:21 CR 51% and CDM 178% bruh It's the same as my Seele ---->crit issue bruh😆😂

[@TheTenzen12]

I sort of disagree that Welt is anti-synergetic with Black Swan. Pushing enemy down is good way to apply lot of Arcana stacks, slower opponent is, more Arcana they get before it explode and reset and that also means more time will Swan have to get her ultimate up in time to freeze stacks there for another turn instead. It could be difference between 8 stacks and 2x30 (or even more) stacks.

[@shotgunammo]

except they die without ever proccing the dot, idk what ur yapping, it doesnt matter how many stacks they have when it never procs, that's the equivelant of 0 stacks

[@TheTenzen12]

@@shotgunammo noone that matters dies that quick.

[@shotgunammo]

@TheTenzen12 brother if they die fast welt is dogshit in the comp, idk ur countering ur own points

[@TheTenzen12]

@@shotgunammo I am not your brother and unless you trying run Welt/BS in Pure fiction, than don't die that fast as you imagine (and you have pretty rich imagination.) But thanks to to Welt they might take three or even more times DoT damage, which might just make difference and kill them. Feel free have last word.

[@r3dknight]

Good vid. Very educational.

[@kingcr2741]

because gacha smack lose, i think i'm back to listen mr chokke again

[@Seinaru_Hikari]

😂😂😂😂

[@lifelessgamingmy]

Oh no, the nigerian strikes again

[@lastday7648]

Can hoyo delete welt from this game? Dawei self insert