The Siege of Ruby Ridge - An American Standoff, Story, & Controversy

[@Wendigoon]

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[@patrichardlol]

I wendigoon to your videos

[@cisarovnajosefina4525]

Gooners rise up

[@CroatianLadStephen]

​@carrysource5101 balls

[@AlliedX]

​@carrysource5101 shaft

[@knickknack218]

Me and the boys wendigooning on the feds

[@crazeelazee7524]

"This dog is barking at us and that might attract attention. Let's fire a shot, one of the loudest noises the average man could realistically be exposed to, in the middle of the woods to make sure we don't attract attention" ~Smartest federal agent

[@Rl55322]

Nah let’s be real they just wanted to shoot stuff

[@TheLiosoul]

You don't understand, they thought the dog spoke American to them, so they spoke American back.

[@SpaceCowboy57]

Dog barking: probably an animal or the mailman. Gunfire: probably not an animal or the mailman.

[@Yuh_mama]

Also knowing Randy is paranoid and his family scopes the property with guns, and the agents are not marked.

[@PeachBoi_Real]

​@@TheLiosoul fed spotted

[@McMeatBag]

The most infuriating part, is like at Waco, no federal agents are EVER held accountable for their actions.

[@canisrex5142]

That's because they're sent there to send a message. It has zero to do with justice.

[@KR-tk8fe]

Just shows how corrupt the government is.

[@AlexReynard]

Same with Ray Epps.

[@ln5321]

What would they be held accountable for? What they did was the position of the US federal government. The system worked as intended and won't have seen any need to hold anyone accountable.

[@darthbigred22]

@@ln5321 I agree but let's be clear had that been say head Tyrone of BLM or the "Not Fucking Around" gang and they caught a bullet and the Fed was white they'd do that Fed like they did Chavin and make statutes to the criminal.

[@plumlineltd7585]

“You shot my dog you son of a bitch” is an all time immortal line. Poor kid.

[@anirose25]

Agent: sh00ts dog even tho that would attract attention more than the barking Child: *I am John Wick* RIP tho it’s truly tragic 🕊️

[@hahafunnecat]

@@anirose25 fucking distasteful

[@1waffley]

@@anirose25 true, very true

[@FatherMcKenzie66]

Never forget the sacrifice

[@t1dotaku]

I rewatch this video every once in a while and that part still gets me. That poor boy died thinking that two trespassing maniacs shot and killed his dog then killed him. I can't imagine the fear and anger he must of felt in his final moments.

[@RS-ry4lp]

The Feds: This man is paranoid! Also The Feds: *sneaks onto his property to film him*

[@Efrencit017]

fr smh

[@brian8507]

Maybe don't be a right winger ? 😮

[@brian8507]

Also those were not fake guns. I'm calling FBI. No one ... especially right wingers should own that many guns.

[@ChiIIerClan]

@@brian8507 As opposed to a boot lick?

[@brian8507]

@@ChiIIerClan anti fascists don't lick boots. U do

[@Dutchbrother07]

Worth addressing: Even when you buy a cabin in the woods far from society, you still might run into vindictive neighbors that hold grudges and try to make your life hell

[@koolaidman4869]

The "I just want to be left alone" mindset will always end with you not being left alone.

[@RealBradMiller]

​@@koolaidman4869Why I have a free candy sign, and always invite the kids to come play in my yard... Never a kid stepping on my grass! 😂

[@stellviahohenheim]

Randy's paranoia caused all of this, and hanging out with nazis

[@urgae9125]

@@RealBradMillercareful there boy, that’ll get parents throwing Molotovs, and you’ll turn into a dream demon hell bent on getting revenge on children for their parents’ actions. But also said dream demon tongued a child in the first movie, not just put up a free candy sign.

[@scarletbard6511]

​@@urgae9125 Maybe he'll just become a less intense version of that dream demon, since his crime wasn't nearly as heinous. Instead of killing anyone, he just annoys people while they're dreaming so they don't sleep well.

[@ThePureomnipotence]

"He is a very paranoid man" - Writes the people secretly filming him.

[@AsperTheGhost]

"He keeps checking his windows, as if he thinks he's being watched... wait..."

[@KarazolaX]

@@AsperTheGhost What's he building in there...

[@_barncat]

It's like that onion video where they decide to try to help schizophrenics by secretly following them around

[@chrisS19019]

@@_barncatthat is one of my favorite videos ever.

[@5-1biggiebagextrafries]

@@_barncat😂😂😂😂😂that’s wild😂😂😂😂 I love the Onion😂😂😂😂

[@Kinkajou420]

The fact that Randy had to still be charged with failure to appear in court due to a clarical error at the very begining of this whole thing is just the cherry on top of the entire shit sunday.

[@AL-lh2ht]

well that and he refused the arrest for over a year

[@Kinkajou420]

@@AL-lh2ht that is true I won’t deny that.

[@Jimothy-723]

@@AL-lh2htan ilegal arrest.

[@Jimothy-723]

@@Kinkajou420your being charged with crimes that you dont know about. now surender yourself. see how nosnensical that is?

[@nunyastockson5901]

you would be surprised how often people are charged with failure to appear due to a clerical error. for example i had the same thing happen. court date was on my birthday so thats how i know i was right.

[@GeneralKenobiSIYE]

Imagine that. The first time someone actually speaks to Randy like a human being, things end very quickly and peacefully. Almost as if treating people like PEOPLE gets better results.

[@AL-lh2ht]

Dude did you not watch the video. Cops said he had a arrest warrant and he threatened to kill them

[@GeneralKenobiSIYE]

@@AL-lh2ht They came at him hard from the beginning. STFU

[@garrettclements3111]

@@AL-lh2ht lol either you gotta be the biggest troll in this comment section or your mentally unstable/challenged

[@garrettclements3111]

@@AL-lh2ht lol apparently you didn’t watch it either, and are either the biggest troll in this comment section or mentally restarted. Probably both

[@fuzzydunlop7928]

​@@garrettclements3111 "Mentally restarted." That's awesome. 😂 I like how you made it seem like what they said was ridiculous without referencing counterpoints from the source material. That's a very convincing tactic. lol

[@zoenull7823]

Is no one gonna talk about how all of this started really because of the neighbor who was pissed he lost the property dispute

[@RileyPatterson-bf8ge]

Just like Marvin.

[@LiberPater777]

​@@RileyPatterson-bf8geNot really... It's backwards in this case. The neighbor is more akin to the city and what they would have done to Marvin had he won his case.

[@bigbossimmotal]

NOPE! This Wendigoon idiot is only interested in dumping on the Weaver family, and blaming them for what happened because of his personal beliefs of what a 'real Christian' should act like. Ironically, judging peoples faith based on your own preconceived notions is about as UNChristian as it gets.

[@Doug-s9l]

Yep or that the team was armed that day because "randy was shooting at Gerardo Rivera helicopter"

[@TransparentMediaTruth]

Agenda 21

[@egekazakmusic]

The fact that his family died was 100% on the government. No matter how "bad" some might view Randy as, the sniper clearly saw his wife and decided to shoot, that was on the feds. Later in Waco the fact that the same sniper shot at fleeing people only confirms this. What a crazy situation.

[@KassieR329]

Exactly Randy’s crimes were not that serious. He sold some short barrel shotguns and didn’t show up to a court date by mistake and then didn’t want to leave his house. There was no reason for them to do all that. It’s ridiculous. I can’t believe all this happened, our government is so corrupt.

[@jaffarebellion292]

Agreed. Randy made mistakes, but the consequences of those mistakes were his alone to bear. His family's blood is on the hands of that tyrannical band of federal thugs who have the gall to claim they protect us.

[@calvinmann5773]

I definitely wouldn't put the bad in quotes. Dude was and is a white supremacist. But otherwise I agree with you

[@porkyorcy1715]

the same guy doing both is insane

[@SomuaSomua]

Bro though he was spetnaz

[@Warewolfgirl1]

The trauma those kids had to go through is inconceivable. To know your brother was shot and then to have the body of your mother just be in the kitchen of your house, decomposing for 9 days and to hear on a megaphone 'Vicky, what did you have for breakfast?' Like yo.

[@LRRPFco52]

Justice has not even remotely been served in this case.

[@stretchxg]

I was thinking the same thing….absolutely terrible

[@sasukedemon888888888]

And it's amazing the government will never, under any circumstances, hold themselves accountable.

[@FormerGovernmentHuman]

It’s unforgivable and they did it again in Waco, except this time they not only let a large conglomerate of women and children burn alive along with many other crimes but afterwards posed for photos with the corpses and mocked them in death. The only consequences for these heinous acts was OK city, which harmed people that weren’t connected with either incident besides being a part of the bureaucracy. There were protests and negative public sentiment but nothing of real substance. It’s a shame, it was a perfect time for a massive populist movement to curtail federal power and keep incidents like this from occurring again. Imagine if it happens now? The media will have the spun narrative out before the raid even occurs. Hell, the netflix documentary on Waco is just pure propaganda justifying the massacre.

[@LRRPFco52]

@@FormerGovernmentHuman One interesting thing the media did a great job of was hiding the fact that there were many blacks living in the Mount Caramel Church community. That would have been a really bad stain on Clinton if the media accurately showed who was murdered there, but they cleaned that all up, blamed David Koresh for everything, and Janet Reno protested way too loudly that it was all her responsibility before we really even knew what happened.

[@BuckScrotumn]

“This man is paranoid” they said as they watched him take a dump from 14 different camera angles.

[@thatonecanofsunkistintheba2558]

4k, 60fps video of a man delivering his payload

[@suukushisakura9333]

"We investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong" -the government, probably

[@Poopoocachoo]

The government, definitely*

[@user-BadUsername]

You mean definitely

[@samstevens7172]

As the FBI had an agent convicted of obstruction of justice, along with jail time in the subsequent investigation, I have to wonder what you’re talking about.

[@lonewanderer1328]

@@samstevens7172 the fall guy

[@snowohno4898]

Nijisanji?💀

[@itsvalentine7783]

The fact that the FBI said this was a mission success is fucking wild

[@ryannieminen6707]

I could just imagine them jumping pumping their fists in the air next to the bodies of son and wife of randy

[@rainman8534]

@@ryannieminen6707I mean shit, they did the same thing over the bodies of the dead, burnt children of Waco

[@vitoc8454]

"We did it Patrick, we saved the city"

[@NeostormXLMAX]

its hypocritical to shit on china for the tianamin square massacre then do this lmao. also considering the whole propaganda about the guys in the square asking for democracy is even more insane when you realise they were maoists who protested deng's reforms, and roited for 3 months straight before the government stepped in, while here they just steped in right away

[@deviantsemicolon618]

Knowing three letter agencies in America, no it isn't

[@Dat1ScrubLord]

You forgot the craziest part of the whole story: When Weaver made the SBS for the agent, it was initially still above 18 inches. The agent then WENT BACK AND ASKED HIM TO MAKE IT SHORTER! That is quite literally entrapment.

[@TSBJunkie]

The guy who murdered his wife got off scot free; you really think they're going to pin an agent down for entrapment charges?

[@Dat1ScrubLord]

@@TSBJunkie I mean considering it got a grand majority of his case dismissed...

[@fourtruths3324]

Should’ve appeared in court and maybe he’d still be alive. Oh well!

[@Dat1ScrubLord]

@@fourtruths3324 My brother in Christ he was still alive, he himself never died, only completely innocent people. You need psychiatric help bc either you're fucked in the head or you have memory issues.

[@lolkthnxbai]

Not entrapment at all, he could've not done it. If you ask someone to buy you beer because you're underaged you can't use the argument that you did it because they asked you could've just not done it. It's fucked up but that's the rules.

[@YELLOW617.]

"How dare you shoot back, after we snuck onto your property in ghillie suits and shot and killed your dog? 😡"

[@connmatthewk]

"And killed your brother." Important note.

[@NcryptedMind]

@@connmatthewkit was actually his 14 year old son.

[@Nightsky071]

And son

[@ninamphotog]

seriously! Some asshole will say "but he's a white supremacist and a Christian." IDGAF! Let him be ... He hurt no one.

[@davidsiffer4374]

You can’t murder people for shooting your dog dumbass

[@brads5065]

You left out that Randy didn't want to make illegally short shotguns and the agent basically tricked him into cutting the barrels 1/4 of an inch too short. And then a sniper "missed" at relatively close range and hit Vicky in the head, a woman he supposedly was not aiming at.

[@brandonjackson5865]

Police or any agent shouldn’t be allowed to initiate and or encourage someone to take illegal actions they are allowed to lie and use any low down tactics to get a confession but a citizen lies to a fed it’s a felony it’s BS of the highest order. All the while our presidents leave military equipment for the taliban and give arms to drug rings in Mexico importing fentanyl killing our children and citizens in an act of war.

[@RealExtraCheese]

He did mention that the short barrel shotgun charge was thrown out in court as _entrapment._

[@brads5065]

@@RealExtraCheese Yes, but it's actually worse than that. it wasn't just entrapment in that they asked him to break the law. He was trying to cut them short but at the minimum length and the officer tricked him into cutting them off just 1/4 inch too short.

[@DamePiglet]

The Feds had NO BUSINESS going after them without the sheriff's department/local police. Had the local police been there, this might not have happened. FYI: if you have CONSTITUTIONAL local law enforcement, they won't allow Feds to do this to you. I say this on the advice of my local sheriff.

[@hanbaguneko]

@@DamePiglet didn't his neighbor talked bs about him to the FBI?

[@onlygalactic1744]

“The government wouldn’t do that” The government in question:

[@airplanes_aren.t_real]

The only thing the government wouldn't do is work competently

[@austin9568AuraMasterDX]

The Government: *Sweats nervously*

[@RubixCuber66]

“Oh yes they would.”

[@daisyjoy242]

“Yes, they would”

[@RenjiMaili]

I mean its the same government who betrayed the natvies, enslaved people, fought a war to end the right of succession (that many pretend was to end slavery but Abe didnt give a damn about blacks), set up interment camps for their citizens during WW2, has carried out regime change.. what would make anyone think they wouldnt trample right over us?

[@MisterS.]

What the FBI did was extremely reckless, but what the Marshalls did was legitimately unhinged. Lied in their reports, invaded his property, mass surveillanced him, then went in, killed a dog and a child, ran away, and then didn't tell the FBI what actually happened. Insane

[@phl_knives]

And never held accountable. No one. This is ridiculous. 1992 and here we are 2024 still people getting their dogs shot over making the mistake of putting a stock on a pistol. I had a buddy who worked in an FFL and said he would see foregrips on pistols (AR/AKs) or braces having blocks or "split fix" in the opening. He would have to tell dozens of people take it outside and remove X part or you're facing a felony and so are we.

[@declanfleming7400]

They were tied to terrorists, they helped terrorists. While the child and wife and their dog didn't deserve to die, what happened happened, and randy was violent and probably would have done something stupid

[@captainuseless2120]

@@declanfleming7400Maybe. But the feds DEFINITELY did a multitude of stupid stuff that killed 3 people and traumatized an entire family

[@TSBJunkie]

@@declanfleming7400 He died a couple of years ago. The killing of his dog, child, and wife didn't instigate him to violence, so your logic makes zero sense.

[@NovasIridia]

these were deeply immoral people. no sympathy.

[@SordSwingrr1]

The government is not your friend. Despite how you may feel about Wheelers character, this was entrapment followed by an ambush.

[@robonator2945]

He had some character flaws sure, but when push came to shove he was *_far_* more reasonable than there was any obligation or expectation to be. Let's spin this a bit into a bit of a story to put it into context, shall we? A man and his family wants to live alone quietly on their own. A strange wanderer comes to their door and asks to be guided towards the nearest town, the man obliges. Upon reaching the town, the wanderer curses him for his kindness and demands that he give himself to the forest on the next blue moon if he wants to be left alone ever again. Upon the next *_full_* moon (not blue moon) the wanderer appears at his door again and claims that he should have followed their instructions, before leaving. The man tries to ask what he did wrong and explain that he was misinformed, but his pleas are ignored as the wanderer walks into the fog of night. Him and his family begin to spot eyes in the night, watching them... he tells his kids to try to stay inside and asks a friend to come over to help keep them safe. A few weeks later, they hear a sound from outside, as if something is tapping on the glass. Their dog rushes out to try to get it and some of them follow. The dog tracks it down to a bush, before whatever it is dashes ahead and kills it, and then kills the man's son. They're able to recover the body, but otherwise they're stuck taking refuge in their cabin. Eventually the man goes out to check on his son's body, begging again for the wanderer to accept negotiations, asking still what he did wrong. As he is leaving however something slashes his friend and decapitates his wife that was standing in the doorway. So, yet again, they're stuck taking refuge in their cabin, his child and wife murdered by some beast that cannot be reasoned with in an act of unprompted violence, and his friend injured and getting worse by the day. A few more days pass and he hears the voice of the wanderer, questioning if his wife got a new haircut recently. Later, the wanderer pretends to seek peace, saying that all he has to do is open the door and they'll chat, while outside of the door some beast is standing there, not even hiding, just waiting to be let in... but y'know the guy had an alcohol problem so definitely not a victim here. Yeah fuck that, this was a straight up SAW like act of prolonged psychological torture, picking them off one by one and taunting them about it. The fact that through it all he was constantly trying to negotiate and never had a "last stand" moment or anything makes him a borderline pacifist saint because after everything that happened it would have been 100% warranted for him to come to the conclusion that none of them were getting out alive and their last hope *_would_* be fighting for survival. Let's not forget, they watched them, lured them out of their cabin, killed their dog, killed their kid while they were running away, and then went for a headshot on their wife while she was carrying an infant. They then taunted him about his wife and claimed to be open to negotiations, with a shotgun rigged to the phone. He had every right to fight back and refused to throughout the entire ordeal. Was he perfect? fuck no, no-one is, but when shit hit the fan he was willing to give *_far_* more benefit of the doubt than it was arguably even reasonable to. (and even with those flaws, keep in mind he never actually joined or seriously interacted with those groups. He was there occasionally but never entered, didn't consider himself a member, didn't engage, etc. He never sought violence for anyone and even his own beliefs weren't focussed on the hatred of others) This was a straight up SAW trap and he would have had every right to not be even a fraction as reasonable as he was willing to be.

[@chubbydinosaur9148]

​@@robonator2945 I didn't read much past the story because my break is over but man I liked it. You write a bit like that old German tales book I have. If you're taking interest in that stuff, keep writing, I'm a fan.

[@CapKaboom]

Guy was associated with Nazis. Fuck ‘im.

[@AL-lh2ht]

@@robonator2945dude literally threatened to kill cops in response to a arrest warrant

[@MAN-pp4qg]

"The next time that somebody tells you, 'The government wouldn’t do that.' OH YES THEY WOULD." - Wendigoon

[@HS6_00]

The government has done many things. All for themselves. I hate that pessimism is a realistic mindset when it comes to government.

[@SomeGuyNamedTex]

"You're preachin' to the choir, Buddy..." -random native american

[@daltonlucas5529]

They would never bring down tower 7 during 9/11 attack

[@daltonlucas5529]

They would never make trump out to be a Russian asset, create a fake dossier, or orchestrate the capital attack in order to convict him of some rare sedition and insurrection charge in order to enact the 14th amendment to prevent him from running for office.

[@KyzenEX]

​@@daltonlucas5529especially not to hide a monetary sinkhole they themselves caused!

[@AkuTenshiiZero]

Oh boy, 2 hours of Wendigoon reminding me of why I will never in my life trust the government.

[@calamitysangfroid2407]

tbh the way you americans have to pay taxes is enough of a reason. mine tells me exactly how much money to give then does it automatically through my bank, sending reciepts to show no funny business.

[@blakeveracruz122]

The lesson is to establish checks to prevent authorities from abusing their power. Government is just a reflection of its people , and maybe the wicked selfishness of the government is a symptom of our evils as a society in the US

[@Wav03]

@@calamitysangfroid2407our taxes are done that way so that tax agencies can make more money off of helping us do our taxes

[@commandervile394]

The government has slowly transformed into something else since 1700's, little by little, until it was too late for anyone to notice. It has merged with corporations and special interest groups such as the Federal Reserve and Google. IT is truly fascist in the truest sense of the word. @@blakeveracruz122

[@Aluttuh]

Watch Europa the last battle... you dont know nothin yet.

[@splatbot8091]

Never forget that convincing randy to """""illegally""""" shorten a barrel is literally entrapment and a crime, yet no one saw the inside of a cell

[@bLfjle]

rules for thee, not for me

[@TricknologistPHD]

And Lon Horiuchi shot a woman holding a child and then proceeded to taunt the remaining Weavers and never saw anything but what was renowned as a show trial.

[@RandomCrewPotatoSoup]

that’s uh. that’s in the video

[@swiftly2322]

They definitely convinced that arms manufacturer to manufacture arms. By asking.

[@bLfjle]

@@swiftly2322 🚨FED DETECTED🚨

[@xxhaiydvexx5951]

That poor boy loosing your best friend and then being shot in the arm for 14 year old he had balls to shoot back or maybe just not the full comprehension of what was happening. But at least he’s with his dog now hope they’re ok

[@Efrencit017]

Feds: Shoot a person's dog Person: Shoots back in retaliation for their dog being shot Feds: :o

[@AsperTheGhost]

"They can't shoot back, that's illegal!" - Feds everywhere, all the time.

[@firstname7071]

feds: >:c

[@thealmightyaku-4153]

​@@AsperTheGhostNo, it's not legal to shoot back - what the fuck is so difficult for you people to understand about that? You don't have a right to disobey the law - which means you also don't have a right to murder enforcers of the law carrying out their duties, or even to impede them.

[@TheeOK1]

​@@firstname7071 my man, can you not see that he was making a joke?

[@ronaldwhitman1377]

​@@thealmightyaku-4153 fed lol

[@coleryanh]

"This nut thinks that there is a government conspiracy against him." *Finishes installing the 50th hidden camera in a tree to watch the bathroom from another angle* "Crazy people am I right?"

[@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz]

While never once asking "are we the baddies?" as they load their puppy popper and head onto a mans property

[@ghgvxcb8105]

I know you have a soft winky

[@brunoactis1104]

​@@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballzor Installing a fascist regime in a third world country to "Stop communism".

[@JohnDoe003]

I don't even want to know what they'd do today.

[@NovasIridia]

these were deeply immoral people. no sympathy.

[@angelsanchez9539]

I like how Horiuchi said the second shot was a miss then goes to his hotel and draws a stick figure depiction of it hitting somebody..

[@Punishthefalse]

That some sociopathic behaviour right there.

[@charliecharlie9042]

Ikr, also how do you get an accidental “gamer shot” while aiming to hit a guys side behind that head…? He’s either the greatest marksman ever or he lyin

[@Checkpoint_King]

There is a reason why many anti government groups to this day are willing to pay good money for confirmation of his whereabouts. I’m sure it’s only for research purposes.

[@nuuuuuuuut]

​@charliecharlie9042 Yeah, he was literally a professional sniper and was at relatively close range and the target was not moving, who he hit square in the head. That was not a "whoops, I missed" that was a murder.

[@FlarkusChunswen]

Don't forget that Horiuchi was also at Waco and is believed to have been shooting from the number one sniper position when they had no reason.

[@MamaMidnight98]

The robot section is WILD that that is an actual historical event that occurred and that the feds thought it was a good idea.

[@just_an_internet_explorer8038]

A real life looney Tunes moment

[@MamaMidnight98]

@@just_an_internet_explorer8038 TRULY.

[@KarazolaX]

You: "I am fearful of the government and wish to get away from it as much as I can, for my own safety." The government: "Well, I hope you're not a pet owner."

[@fullm3tal90]

Don’t sell Guns to Nazis you’ll be fine

[@DoktorDaytha]

(warning dark humor and cringe humor) Lon: or a wife i could 360 no scope

[@thelonelyregigigas6126]

Fancy seeing you here

[@PeachBoi_Real]

​@@DoktorDaythalets not forget the unborn child

[@averyelliott5645]

@@PeachBoi_Real ...did I entirely miss something in the video, or do you mean the already born infant child that mom almost accidentally smooshed after the feds unalived her????

[@Ratzilla_91]

Do you choose: A: Walk up to the house while still being cautious and identify who you are and asking the home owner to answer a few questions B: Show up in military gear, shoot a boy and his dog for no reason, and have a shoot out over a shotgun and a misunderstanding The ATF: hmmmm I’m gonna go with B

[@apache8795]

You forgot that B includes setting up spy cameras and watching the family for months

[@AJadedLizard]

@@apache8795 Surveillance isn't inherently a bad thing. If they were going to go serve him a warrant or even just interview him, they did need to know what they were getting into. It's that the Feds had zero interest in de-escalation. They *wanted* this because it made the government's war on the Right look useful. It backfired spectacularly for them, but they set out with this outcome in mind.

[@AJadedLizard]

You gotta justify the ATF's existence somehow.

[@apache8795]

@@AJadedLizard I'm no fed, thank God, but was setting up multiple spy cameras and agents in the bushes to watch him really the better option than taping a letter to his door in the dead of night

[@MegaDeathRay10]

Dead wrong. Your example implied they ever considered any other option.

[@g-manalt2709]

For me the craziest part is that Lon Horiuchi just got off scott free because "government immunity" then went to Waco and killed more people, it just makes me angry that he didn't get the punishment he most definitely deserved.

[@cantu7214]

@@A_Caat cringe kid

[@pratiyush4474]

​@@A_Caat pathetic

[@maxrockatanksyOG]

Is he that tattooed sniper?

[@jayzell3687]

@@A_Caatyou keep bitching about Wendigoon "deleting your comments" when you keep either saying shit that YT auto deletes or are against channel rules. Sorry you're butthurt for not being able to read

[@lincolnsand5127]

While Lon shot someone at Ruby Ridge and was also present at Waco, there's actually no evidence he shot anyone at Waco. The shells that were recovered from his position in Waco were matched to the ATF and not FBI HRT. While it's possible, I've seen no evidence that he "then went to Waco and killed more people".

[@wonderlandzer0]

Wait, i had no idea it was the same team at Waco... That makes so much sense and honestly makes all of this even worse

[@bigpapamagoo8696]

Still reeling over the fact that Wendigoon mysteriously vanished after leaving a note in someone else’s handwriting saying he wasn’t murdered. I can’t believe he would do that

[@jacklandedhere5157]

Haven't you heard? They just found his body, apparently he shot himself in the back of the head, while tied up, twice

[@Weird2004]

@@jacklandedhere5157 Man. What a shame. Gone too soon.

[@Bhubnipz]

Hahahaha oh man yeah this guy is so edgy. He references the government killing him in literally every video so he must be in danger and not pandering to 14 year olds hahahaha

[@Grunttamer]

this recently happened to a clinton friend in arkansas shotgunned while tied to a tree@@andrewbritton9043

[@evil_icicle]

​@@BhubnipzYou must be fun at parties

[@Rasupubegasu]

The butterfly effect is crazy. It all started because a neighbor falsely reported him out of spite. Maybe WACO and the bombing would’ve never happened if the neighbor hadn't done that.

[@bluev7427]

No kidding, that’s a crazy but interesting thought

[@ProudGirlDadX2]

The flap of a butterflies wing's in the Amazon can cause a tornado in Texas. Awesome reference, incredible insight 🤘

[@justbethinking]

either he feels extreme guilt or doesn’t care cause he got a chance to get “his” land back

[@blackthorn2200]

WACO? The Branch Davidians, led by David Koresh was a cult that abused children.

[@MetalActual]

Imagine red flag laws 🤣

[@MG_SW]

I don't know why my favorite part of this video was the ATF gun law rant. ATF: "You put a buttstock on that pistol, thereby making it much harder to conceal? 10 years in the slammer"

[@gramfero]

it's a miracle they're still allowed to write laws

[@jigglypuff3311]

​@@gramfero miracle? Its by design lol

[@adamcuneo7189]

What do you mean by a "miracle"? It's not a good thing.

[@snex000]

The Supreme Court upheld the NFA on the grounds that it only restricted weapons not regularly used in wars, therefore not suitable for militias defending the country. Now, the current rhetoric is that we must restrict weapons that ARE used in wars. Figure out how that one works.

[@adamcuneo7189]

@@snex000 The NFA is a bunch of BS, the Founders were very clear when they said "shall not be infringed", plus, the whole point of the 2A is to have weapons of war in case the government makes any law that violates the 1A rights to free speech, religion, press, protest, or assembly.

[@t1red802]

20:05 - 20:23 is so fucking powerful… “The people who protect us are supposed to be the exception, not the baseline.” It’s sad that we all seem to be forgetting that because of the shitshow we’ve been dealing with for the past however many years.

[@grouchypotatowolfpack5580]

A tale as old as time. We have investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing

[@subrosa4792]

Who’s watching the watchers?

[@CrimsonCrimesYT]

​@@subrosa4792 Unfortunately, the people who have no power to change it. :(

[@pukeskylark]

@@subrosa4792People that are easily disarmed by simply applying the word “conspiracy theorist.” Painting everyone as a whack job for questioning the official narrative has done wonders for information suppression. There can be all the evidence in the world challenging the government’s explanation for an event, it won’t be taken seriously by the general public because the whistleblower gets nonchalantly grouped in with flat earthers.

[@EpicCoolGuy21]

And when they do, they pin everything on one guy

[@TheGhuuz]

the fuck you mean "no wrongdoing"? They paid millions in fines and the fbi trauma team was under reconstruction for 2 years after the trial XDDDD

[@bloodrune329]

The fact that the FBI killed Randy’s 14 year old son and then shot his wife in the head in his door, then tried to slap him with charges, is insane. Haven’t you punished him enough? You simply attacked his family with no announcement, killed two of them, and then tried to pin this whole situation on him.

[@ragnard0967]

It is his fault

[@bloodrune329]

@@ragnard0967 it is whose fault? There’s a lot of “he”s in this story

[@lolstalgic9602]

@@bloodrune329 I think "Randy missed a court date. so he deserves to have his family slaughtered!" is what the sicko is saying.

[@Efrencit017]

@@ragnard0967 fed spotted

[@bobertastic6541]

@@ragnard0967 his fault for getting a faulty court date after being coerced into manufacturing firearms BY A FEDERAL AGENT?

[@Solid_Brownies]

As a non american I'd appreciate a video on the oklahoma city bombing, it seems to be referenced everywhere and I haven't found videos on it that are thorough enough.

[@LRRPFco52]

I've studied OKBOMB since it happened, to include inside intel that has never been publicly released. It's one of the biggest misreported events in modern US history. To break it down, it involves: * A Middle Eastern terror plot between the Muslim Brotherhood's Advanced Forces agent, Ali Mohamed and Saddam's ISI, who were both under constant surveillance by the FBI * A US Federal building that stored incriminating records from numerous investigations into former Governor Clinton of Arkansas, then the US President * Layers of sting and informant operations using former military personnel (Terry Nichols & Tim McVeigh) * Monitoring by the Congressional Counter-Terrorism Task Force * A crisis used by Clinton to distract from the 14 investigation referrals from multiple agencies into his high crimes and treason, blamed on right wing talk radio and crafting Clinton as the healer-in-chief who would console the families of the victims * Responding legislation drafted by then Senator Biden, which was passed as the PATRIOT Act after 9/11 What was reported by the media was lie upon lie, until the true nature of the case was unrecognizable next to the facts.

[@LRRPFco52]

So both my comment and the one in my notification list have been removed. Looks like KZbin doesn’t want people who have studied OKC for almost 30 years commenting on it with details and facts.

[@AL-lh2ht]

@@LRRPFco52dude KZbin auto delete key words all the time, and then sometimes not, and deletes complete random comments, KZbin is just buggy. Oh and every time you make it link it’s gets auto deleted, except when it’s not.

[@liarwithagun]

Basically, a guy was mad at the US gov after Waco and Ruby Ridge, so he did a sewerside blogging on the ATF headquarters. There are a lot more details, but that is the summary of what happrned as far as I know.

[@4ohf]

yo, gone with the blast wave! fun times

[@LadyZubat]

I love how Wendigoon spent a minute defending his OBJECTIVELY perfect trees!

[@Oriol-oo7jl]

yeah, the trees were awesome, no need to explain anything

[@john4845]

The fact that a TRAINED FEDERAL AGENT ignored several BASIC rules of gun safety (shooting at the door), is insane

[@miguellogistics984]

and Bill Barr Defended him

[@Damien_doughnuts]

Lon should have watched the Darwin awards to learn firearm safety from Brandon Herrera

[@assasin19991999]

​@@miguellogistics984like minded people like to keep company

[@equalopportunitygadfly5908]

I believe they intentionally killed Vicky. She was in many ways the guiding force religiously for the family. They knew this from her letters. They likely thought by killing her Randy would either lose all hope and kill himself, go insane and start a gunfight so they could kill him, or maybe just give up and surrender. The sniper should have been charged with 1st degree murder.

[@Damien_doughnuts]

@@equalopportunitygadfly5908 that’s messed up

[@_-pf_gd-_]

Its crazy that people like Horiuchi are out there enjoying life like nothing happened.

[@marocat4749]

The wrong agent lost his life that day for sure.

[@Dutchbrother07]

@@marocat4749wasn’t the agent that was shot most likely the guy that shot Randy’s son?

[@danorris5235]

I served in the military. One of the biggest reasons for jumping the chain of command is because your immediate leadership has completely lost it and desperately needs a reality check. If you're being given unlawful orders, watching wild assumptions made on bad intel, and then given an ROE that is essentially a green light to slaughter wholesale without offering surrender or identifying your force you 100% know that your leadership is certifiably insane, needs to be removed, and you don't have to follow their orders until the situation is resolved. It's no longer a question. It's not even remotely debatable but any form of rational metric. One of two things happened: 1) The gov't green lit the slaughter of that family and wanted them dead, and everyone involved in the operation was a knowing party to it. 2) Every person involved in the operation did not have the intelligence or moral fiber necessary to assess the situation and act rightfully, morally, or ethically. I don't see a third option that explains the behavior.

[@icannon6611]

Idk if its true but i read that the guy who blew up the wtc gave out flyers with the snipers name and address

[@The1nvisibleJeevas]

More like Horrible-uchi

[@blockhead134]

Randy "its not paranoia if they really are out to get you" Weaver

[@airplanes_aren.t_real]

Honestly if he just went a little bit less paranoid and a better legal team all of this could have blown over

[@blockhead134]

@@airplanes_aren.t_real the atf has proven again and again that they stop at nothing to bitch slap anyone who doesn't kiss their ass

[@Wiskaksk2]

Ok but he was a nazi

[@danielkuritson6386]

John McCaffe said the same thing

[@ratgobbler]

@@danielkuritson6386 tbf he likely did have some level of mental illness, and there’s a clip of isaiah saying he think mcafee did kill himself

[@RandomBro12]

my jaw dropped not only at the "what your wife have for breakfast" comment but the shotgun phone robot is some unhinged stuff

[@ryanbolson23]

The fact these people can harass someone who has lived peacefully on their property for over a year, trespass said property, throw rocks at the family dog, shoot said dog, then shoot and kill a retreating 14 year old child in the back and STILL think themselves the good guys is baffling to say the least.

[@CynnamonSpyder]

ACAB

[@thepraetorian2368]

The worst for me is Wendigoon saying "both sides", like, really?

[@clayxros576]

The issue is that, the way the US system is set up, they are defending their side. We got corporations, the government, and the agencies on one side, and civilians on the other. Basically civilians are only meant to generate resources for the top, and only obey. Don't ask questions, if you leave you're a traitor, if you disobey you're dispossessed (but still a citizen so they can enslave you via prison). Ruby Ridge was supposed to be a tyrannical example. "Try to leave, this is what we'll do." The issue is nobody actually did their homework, so the feds had barely any reason to actually treat Randy as a traitor. Plus you need to ensure PR keeps the population thinking the government is on their side, and this entire indicent did none of that.

[@roozbeh6999]

but he was racist or something !

[@sideswipe604]

​@@thepraetorian2368he didn't say anything of the sort though. All he said was that he thought Randy was a bad person but he and his family did not in any way deserve what happened to them.

[@BunnyTheOverlord]

I swear when he said "This parts actually funny." I was like "I am in no mood for jokes so I probably won't laugh." then here comes the shotgun phone robot being so fucking surreal it actually made me crack a smile at the absurdity.

[@SPECTRA_87]

I need a t shirt with that robot on it

[@Desertpunk1986]

@@SPECTRA_87with, “will you answer this phone”?

[@SPECTRA_87]

@@Desertpunk1986 "opportunity of a lifetime"

[@interstellarsurfer]

​@@SPECTRA_87"We got Publisher's Clearinghouse on the line. They say you won One Million Dollars™

[@SPECTRA_87]

@@krakkenzomboid6341 all I can picture is R.O.B. with a phone in one hand and a 12 gauge in the other

[@ロロノアゾロ-h4m]

The negligence and incompetence of every single enforcer and authority in this event is astounding and almost cartoonish, like something that shouldn't even exist in the first place. It just goes to show how so many people don't deserve to be in positions of power.

[@TezTheAztec]

It shows the code of conduct passed down throughout the federal government. Almost every person responsible for breaking the rules, across the different agencies, lied and dodged accountability. Witnesses to those crimes lied on behalf of their coworkers and leaders in charge of the operations lied about the series of events leading to crimes committed by their subordinates. When the government wants to pursue a criminal they will harass and threaten the family and friends for lying and interfering. When they are at fault of crimes, they will lie and hide evidence to confuse investigators who, in all likelihood, already lean to siding with the “official narrative”.

[@admdubya2107]

There was not one single adult in the room

[@dc8836]

@@TezTheAztec Daily reminder that American policing (fed or otherwise) has its roots in Pinkerton union busters and chasers of fugitive slaves. We know they murdered Fred Hampton, they probably did MLK, they might have done Tupac (look into who Tupac's parents were), and there's enough circumstantial evidence that I can't truly throw out the idea that they did JFK as well (even though I personally don't believe those theories.) The pigs ain't your friends. Never have been, never will be. ACAB. Randy Weaver was a piece of shit, but what was done to him and the lack of accountability and punishment for what was done to him is reprehensible. That lack of accountability, together with the same lack of accountability for Waco, is what lead to McVeigh blowing up a bunch of children a few years later. The blood of those kids is on the feds' hands. ACAB.

[@crazeelazee7524]

It's because the way the government work is there's no problem in fucking up, the problem is if a report says you fucked up.

[@MNAHN-T.GOF-NN]

M A L I C I O U S N E S S

[@sethellis2876]

“You shot my dog you son of a bitch” I think I would’ve had the same reaction.

[@RandomOrthodoxMan]

Can’t believe Wendigoon committed suicide by 134 stab wounds, 3 gunshots to the back of the head, hanging, then threw himself out of a 15 story building.

[@bigpig46]

You forgot the fact that he also overdosed on drugs as he had been suffering mentally

[@ceinwenchandler4716]

Wow. Did you two come from the Urbanspook video? XD

[@gracewrites720]

He sounded so different in his suicide note, he must have been really struggling.

[@jacklang3314]

All because he had an unregistered sbr.

[@Kavilion]

It was considerate to zip himself up in a suitcase after all that. That’s just how he always was 😢

[@griggorpi8751]

And remember kids, the next time somebody tells you: "The government wouldn't do that" Oh yes, they would

[@Armameteus]

Gleefully so. Then brag about it to their buddies. Wear it like a badge of honour. "I literally got away with murder! I love the unchecked power of this institution!"

[@panickedshears]

@@Armameteusthe sniper who killed the mother got to do that twice… once at ruby ridge and once at Waco. Absolute insanity

[@carydorse705]

And chances are they did already

[@GobblyGook]

Quoting Wendigoon on his own video

[@reecerinehart8419]

pretty sure thats the point@@GobblyGook

[@roflchiefmcjoflchief1791]

One critical piece you missed in your analysis: Randy Weaver did not cut down his own guns. Those two guns were given to him by that federal agent to do work on. Randy doesn't have a smithing or ffl license, so he wouldn't be held to the standard of a gunsmith in this action. This is entirely entrapment.

[@ChasePicle]

Yeah a lot of people tend to forget that, it’s easy to look over

[@blantant]

Textbook entrapment

[@yourfriendlyemperor]

I was bitching about that the whole time. The police literally put him in a situation he'd never had been in w/o their interference. The exact definition of entrapment. This case always pisses me off.

[@roflchiefmcjoflchief1791]

@A_Caat if your local police officer walks up to you with a bag of crack and says "here, sell this", is it right for him to arrest you when you sell it?

[@markmawson3904]

You don’t have to be a gunsmith. Yes it’s entrapment, obviously, but being a gunsmith or not is entirely irrelevant to cutting a barrel.

[@zacharyfloyd-n7s]

they way that u explain your view points and the way you present and lay out this documentary is proffesional and epic execellent job

[@TheDigitalApple]

RIP Wendigoon, found dead by suicide from 13 gunshots to the head.

[@randomguyoninternetidk4014]

And 34 bruises from a bat

[@Uhhhhhhgoo]

so real man😞😞😞😞

[@Matt-xc6sp]

Lon Horiuchi strikes again!

[@samblamjam]

24 stab wounds 😢

[@Mika-Fresh]

He always seemed so happy 🤧

[@whistler9788]

“talk to our friendly robot” “the robot has a gun” WHAT IS HAPPENING 😭

[@RabbyBabu]

Cyberpunk 2077 theme starts playing

[@asphaltannihilator157]

The reality is that an agent intentionally shot a kid in the back while he ran away and another agent intentionally killed a mother holding her baby. Any other version of those events is wildly untrue and nothing more than a weak attempt to cover up a literal hit on an entire family. Nobody “missed”, nobody aimed at a different target. These people were intentionally shot and killed while innocent.

[@_Mezzanine]

Lon Horiuchi

[@A_R18]

I mean his family was certainly innocent. Randy willing to sell illegal (whether we agree with that legality or not) arms to the Aryan Nations is an inherently bad thing

[@owenstephens3389]

The question is then, what do we do about this? Our politicians don't fear the gallows, and federal agencies work specifically to avoid protecting and serving the common man?

[@LethalByChoice]

100%. I'm not going as far as to say there's a conspiracy, I think the agents there just wanted some action and the Marshals got tired of doing nothing and wanted to kick things off. The sniper clearly just wanted to shoot people because he's a cold blooded murderer as evident from his actions in Waco.

[@MogofWar]

​@@LethalByChoiceSo Peace Sickness...

[@esten_varlineau_cobain]

47:02 "Just because you're paranoid, don't mean they're not after you." Dude, you started making me emotional when you started getting emotional over Vicky's death. I'm super hypersensitive and I just felt your pain man.

[@juneyellowsnek]

You're not _'super hypersensitive.'_ you're human.

[@kittikat4124]

"It's not paranoia if they really are out to get you"

[@toshirodragon]

Had the same thought!

[@stevep7346]

Textbook case.

[@clayxros576]

The fact even NCIS had an episode where that was the whole gimmick, and implied investigative agencies can be at odds with each other. How that show got away with such a slanderous message is wild As in, I'm glad they got it on air and in reruns, and can't believe the CIA or someone hasn't forced them to delete it.

[@progrockmorelikefrogc0ck157]

"Just because youre paranoid, dont mean theyre not after you" - Kurt Cobain

[@andyfriederichsen]

Waco: Insane federal malice. Ruby Ridge: Insane federal incompetence.

[@AJadedLizard]

Some of the same actors were present both, including Lon "I Shot an Unarmed Woman Holding a Child and Got Away with It" Horiuchi. He was Timothy McVeigh's original target before he decided blowing up an office building was a better statement than assassinating a murderer.

[@MrJasnotron]

And malice

[@fivebrosstopmos]

@@AJadedLizard Shame.

[@blaine1987]

Fun fact: Horiuchi's attorney who got him completely exonerated was former Trump ally and 2-time Attorney General Bill Barr.

[@blueprint7]

@@AJadedLizardit made him more famous and therefore made his point and purpose more well known. assassinating one cop nobody cares about wouldn't have done that

[@ApexATL]

Sarah shielding her father from a sniper with her body is an act of utmost courage.

[@liberpolo5540]

Amazing levels of courage

[@Historyweirdo]

W daughter

[@noctotainlowry9246]

Honestly no. If you as a parent have made your child think that their life is worth less then your own to where they would sheild you? You have failed as a parent. I dont give a shit what happens to ME my child should never put themselves in harms way for my sake. I am the parent it is my duty to protect them and ensure They survive not the other way around. It is also one of the reasons i refuse to see randy or his wife as any kind of innocent or Martyrs theese people had children with them and continued to drag this out knowing every hour this goes on those children are in more danger. If it meant My child could survive i would gladly walk out that door and surrender even if it means i possibly take a bullet a parent's duty should always be to the child Not to make some Defiant stand for the sake of my own ego

[@noctotainlowry9246]

@German_Empire_Enjoyer imagine prefering to put children in danger. Yikes

[@Ubifyy]

​@@noctotainlowry9246bro dont know what a family who loves eachother is

[@Coff33Drink3r02]

This story made my uncle drop a pretty hard line: "Just because someone's asking for it, doesn't mean you need to drop 'all of it' on the person."

[@altus2447]

I can’t blame Randy for falling into a dark pit after the siege in the slightest. I’m happy his daughter found peace, but I can understand why Randy never recovered. I only hope he found peace in the afterlife.

[@mareczek00713]

If anything I hope God forgave him, not everybody has the patience and strenght of biblical Job.

[@NikkiBudders]

@@mareczek00713 Would you even want a God who's plan was for your wife and child to be murdered? I'm not shocked he left his faith.

[@d.5432]

It's almost weird how wendigoon was surprised what happened of Randy. He had to keep his dead son in a shed and his dead wife was in front of him on the floor for 9 days, while he had to take care of the 10 month old baby. It'd be a miracle if he also managed to "find peace" after all this. Hell, it's a miracle that he died of old age and not s*icide.

[@protonjones54]

Felt the same way, I feel pity for the man

[@Error-hx9ze]

Not only did he have to see his dog,his son and his wife died (one in front of him) he also has to live knowing that all of that couldve been avoided if he was less stubborn its hard to truly recover and find peace after that

[@alexc.9669]

If I had a coin for every time the ATF killed a group of people who religiously believed that they would face some sort of adversity or conflict, I would have two coins which isn't much but it's infuriating that it happened twice (that I know of)

[@noticer3721]

You're forgetting the red flag laws that all end in murder.

[@revisit8480]

If I had a coin for every single government overreach, I'd be a multi billionaire - and my funds would never run dry.

[@NikkiBudders]

@KravenMoorehead674 Can you evade your taxes faster than the government can give you more money? XD

[@joncooke158]

Philadelphia MOVE. Georgia Fireflies.

[@Spobbles69420]

Look up rainbow farm

[@ImOnGelato]

Killing the family dog with the first shots being shot says everything about what they were there to do

[@nuuuuuuuut]

Police in general, even to this day need to stop treating dogs like theyre fucking tigers. If theyre legitimately trying to attack you, there are non lethal options. If you've attempted to stun them or whatever, and the dog is still somehow trying to maul your jugular, then you can take lethal action. You shouldn't be able to shoot a dog just for running at you (or in some cases not even doing that), yet they can.

[@JoshSweetvale]

​@@nuuuuuuuutDogs are property. Neutralizing a dog as a threat doesn't have to be hard.

[@dbyspae122]

​@JoshSweetvale if you've ever owned a dog you loved you wouldn't say that

[@JoshSweetvale]

@@dbyspae122Your priorities do not matter to random other people. They don't care about your dog

[@Sentauri]

@@JoshSweetvalewhile dogs dont have the same level of importance as a human, they are definitely more imprtant than object posessions like houses or lamps. Killing one becuz u couldnt know whether it was going to harm u or not is pathetic. Otherwise pets all across the world would just get shot for being near someone. And police are not toddlers. They should be able to restrain a domesticated animal without killing it. Your argument is that of a witless, apathetic ass

[@keystonerecords4541]

honestly an incredible video! you approach this story from every side, and it's very refreshing. plus, i'd gone down the wiki hole on Ruby Ridge before, but realize now that i didn't know the half of it! thank you

[@thedstroyer462]

When he is going over the technicalities of ATF laws I cant help but think of that one comedy skit. "Butt stock too short? Straight to jail" "Butt stock too long? Jail, straight away" "Put a stock on a pistol? Believe it or not, also jail" 😂

[@witnessfox3509]

"Butt stock not a stock? Straight to jail!"

[@raicrush]

Its from the show Parks and Rec! If you google "Parks and Rec straight to jail" you'll get the whole scene!

[@samsharp1442]

😂

[@Zealous_Delusional]

The government better get real creative with Wendigoon's self delete, at this point a disappearance or accidental drowning would just be disappointing.

[@somejerk5662]

Probably gonna get the ol' "chopped himself up, zipped himself into several duffel bags, and distributed himself across several miles of swamp" treatment at this rate.

[@Boogie71323]

They writing the plot as we speak

[@questorio]

it better look like a scene out of hot fuzz or i'll be disappointed

[@cryptic9511]

"This just in, KZbinr Wendigoon found dead after the Goodyear blimp crashed into his home just hours ago. The authorities ruled the death as accidental manslaughter. More on this after our ad break."

[@TurtleStranger]

Must be monetizable

[@Marlock2199]

I just got to 1:33:57 and... so the entire reason why Randy was wanted in the FIRST place (illegal shotgun) was thrown out because it was entrapment? SO 3 PEOPLE DIED BECAUSE HE COMMITED A CRIME THAT WAS FORCED UPON HIM?

[@matttucker5786]

Yup

[@marocat4749]

Yep, threoough at least that bastard in charge should hgave brought to court, in some way.

[@nickchristian1590]

He had agency over his actions. Screw entrapment, the reason people died is because of the US government

[@tuomasronnberg5244]

I mean, it wasn't **forced** upon him, he **agreed** to commit the crime when tempted with it.

[@tridinh1011]

@@tuomasronnberg5244 that's the fcking definition of entrapment

[@VIRUSOFENVYANDGREED]

"We, the government, who is not in on it, have deemed our actions this completely separate party's fault."

[@chrisphillips9388]

Weaver initially refused to cut off the shotguns but after several requests from his "friend" the fed, who knew he was desperate for money he cut off the shotguns.

[@farehjhuschae]

How isn't that entrapment? Like even if the fed wasn't a fed and just a CI, you can't solicit someone to commit a crime...

[@Bill-mq7wr]

@@farehjhuschae it is entrapment lol

[@farehjhuschae]

Lol I posted this before Wendigoon started talking about the trial and how that got thrown out

[@jackdetect8131]

@@farehjhuschae Actually, you can. You just can't solicit an "unsuspecting innocent person" to commit a crime they weren't already inclined to commit. i.e, an undercover officer can't pose as an underage girl online and contact adult men and ask them to meet up. An undercover CAN, however pose as the underage girl online and if an adult man incriminates himself (expressing an interest in meeting up, exchanging/sending lewd photos etc.) then the cop CAN solicit the man to meet up and then charge him with that offense. Just using this example because it is one of the more commonly debated entrapment scenarios. The reality is that you may or may not be able to get charges dropped due to entrapment if you have a good lawyer or if the cops/prosecutor are idiots, regardless of the scenario

[@farehjhuschae]

@jackdetect8131 I was mainly referring to Randy's case as despite them saying he probably cut barrels before, they had no definitive proof. Therefore, a reasonable person wouldn't conclude Randy was actually likely to commit the offense. I know undercovers can ask known drug dealers for drugs lol

[@tonytobimontana3929]

As someone who works in the firearms industry myself, I want to say thank you for shining a light on the ridiculousness of NFA versus non-NFA laws, and the mental gymnastics that normal law abiding citizens have to go through on a daily basis just to be able to legally obtain firearms.

[@markbollinger1343]

Probably the most important video segment he has ever done.

[@ajaxthegreatest2191]

Damn, I was getting anxious listening to that section. I cannot stand thinking about this shit.

[@inadere8576]

when wendigoon said _’a failure to admit fault, leads to more faults’_ I felt that

[@grantduerst8060]

He might as well as just played the Chernobyl final statement scene lol

[@machina5]

You can always tell when someone's chronically online cause they speak in memes in serious contexts.

[@andyp.4564]

@@grantduerst8060I thought exactly that!! Lol what is the cost of lies

[@overlydorkishdude]

I feel bad for the poor bastard who breaks into Wendi’s house Burglar: “Ha I broke in” Wendi with any of his guns pointed at the burglar’s head: “may God be with you”

[@Nadiki]

Horiuchi is an actual monster. I’d say I hope he’s burdened with guilt, but let’s be real, he probably feels nothing.

[@nman551]

Actual monster

[@collinchristensen7405]

Wendigoon mentioned that he was also at the Waco massacre. Why is that? I'll tell you why: Horiuchi is an assassin. He's used by the feds to kill civilians they don't like. Simple as. That's why he shot Vicky in the head and why almost no one survived Waco. He's probably proud of that shot. In fact I saw an agent who was at both Ruby Ridge and Waco (wow what a fucking coincidence!!!) call that a great shot. Lied about the trajectory too.

[@E10-g8m]

​@@collinchristensen7405meds buddy, that 2nd half got a little rando

[@collinchristensen7405]

@@E10-g8m That it was intentional? No I assure you dude these people did this on purpose. They're assassins. Literally assassins. The same people that were at Ruby Ridge, were at Waco, were at OKC. Look up operation PATCON. The feds were intentionally targeting white Christian militia movements. They were trying to turn Randy into an informant to infiltrate the covenant, the sword, and the arm of the lord. Which they already had informants in. Randy was entrapped and they tried to make an example out of him when he refused.

[@collinchristensen7405]

​@@E10-g8mthe same guys who did R.R. did Waco and OKC. Look up operation PATCON.

[@Krejii05]

The sequel (*prequel*) to the waco video is finally here lads

[@Sypitz]

ATF: The Pre-Sequel

[@Matt-xc6sp]

@@Sypitz ATF: The Phantom Menace

[@Theeditor2828]

@@Sypitzthe sprequel

[@Ranger_Brutus]

​​@@Matt-xc6sp Alcohol Tobacco and Fuck-ups

[@Cheesymomo]

@@Matt-xc6sp Everyone says the reboots just don't hit the same.

[@michaelchen2718]

1:46:15 "one of the peculiar quirks of America is that every decade or so, the government will unredact some files and admit responsibility for some crazy event that happened before."

[@notrobert8284]

Because it gives more "legitimacy" when there is "transparency" but only when no one cares as much anymore. There is a limit of course, seeming as the Soviet "Glasnost" policy was a bit more drastic, revealed a lot more, and the stuff revealed was much much more brutal (mass genocide, war crimes, cults of personality etc.). America reveals something every decade or so, then they can claim that the government "doesn't lie because we unveiled the truth about x" meanwhile its really just a justification to keep making mistakes and owning up only when the heat is off them some time later.

[@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon]

And before tgat happens, they're denied and called "conspiracy theories ".

[@TheErbz69]

Can’t wait to get old and see what shit they are pulling today that no one talks about loud enough for us to hear.

[@admdubya2107]

If we’re always behind enough, we’ll always have too much to lose to get all bent out of shape over it when we find out. It’s like a calmer heads prevail technique that makes us all “count to ten”…in years or decades without deciding that for ourselves. You really going to throw your life away and revolt over 30 year old information? Nah. Me neither.

[@airplanes_aren.t_real]

​@@TheErbz69 us government in 10-20 years: hey guys so we totally let January 6 happen

[@imakerbadcontentrbad8664]

That robot with a shotgun pointed at the phone is some Wile E. Coyote type scheme

[@grendelsnub6304]

I’m frankly flabbergasted that the neighbor who lied about Randy was never charged with anything, given that he more or less kickstarted this whole shitshow.

[@1970bosshemi]

This is why red flag laws are a bad idea. Let alone unconstitutional

[@queenfree85]

Right??? Wtf!!!

[@davemccage7918]

I’m flabbergasted that Goon put a $1200 Night Force 1x8 scope on an air-soft gun! Who does such a thing! 🤔

[@kaivogel253]

you mean he started Weaver working for a neonazi terror group? Kinda weird how you bootlickers keep trying to avoid that with desperation.

[@ratgobbler]

@@davemccage7918 He’s such a funny guy.

[@moss0964]

it rly stood out to me how emotional you got when describing Vicky's death. i felt that too, that was...really rough. take care of yourself my dude

[@JadeLecarde]

Bo Grits being the one to finally go and talk like a civilized person is so relieving that at least someone recognized in the moment that this whole situation was stupid and overblown by incompetence and fear.

[@stevep7346]

It's funny, in a way, that the man probably most acquainted with war was the one to walk in and make peace.

[@VanBourner]

@@stevep7346 It's often like that tho. Men like Bo know what to say and how to keep their cool to deescalate. War is an experience that hardens some but also breaks many

[@theprincess3872]

Imagine reporting your neighbor to the FBI over a fucking property dispute

[@hakozak3437]

The sheer amount of absurdity contained in this event from the FBI literally installing Cameras in the Woods to film him, to a robot with a Shotgun pointed at the place where he is supposed to put his head is insane.

[@flowerhana__1]

Bro, they literally shot his wife in the head and his son in the back while invading his property without announcing themselves, both of which were done right in front of him, and his only compensation for that was $100,000. He's got every right to be pissed off. I'd be too.

[@elcuh9281]

Pissed is nice I’ll be steaming out ears

[@NovasIridia]

@operationjester3348 they were white supreimicists.

[@NovasIridia]

​@operationjester3348 by being white supremicists. c'mon y'all it's not rocket science.

[@mindmadeit]

@operationjester3348they’re rage baiting. They’ve commented this under most of the comments on this video.

[@ChA0s_AgeNt]

@@mindmadeit Even rublers gotta eat, mane?

[@insomniacnerd5592]

This is such a huge fuck up on the state’s part. It was mismanaged horrifically. A federal agent got killed for doing their job, a poor kid died because his dear dog was killed, and a wife and mother of four, one not even a year old, died as well. Dear god.

[@insomniacnerd5592]

The federal agent might’ve made some wrong decisions, but at the end of the day, it’s still a tragic loss of life over something that could’ve been handled so much better. This entire situation is screwed up.

[@Frodudus]

Fuck up? Everything went exactly as planned.

[@IceNinja2007]

No, they did exactly what they set out to do. It was to terrorize a community that just wanted to be left alone. Then the Government told the rest of the world "This is what we will do to our own citizens should they want to be free from us."

[@DJR992]

The Kent State mention at 1:26:34 made me realize that a Wendigoon video on Kent State would be so interesting

[@Donkeybutter03]

I find it unbelievable that they said the phone robot that had a shotgun aimed to execute anyone that answers the phone was an “oversight”. An ATF mouse trap is definitely the best way to describe it.

[@airplanes_aren.t_real]

It's kind of interesting that the military/police are the only branch of government allowed to commit this many "oversights" without internal ir external punishment, imagine if a guy at nasa "accidentally" forgot to add a camera to the mars rover, imagine if a guy in the CDC "accidentally" forgot to separate his samples in the correct beaquers, imagine if someone in the traffic department "accidentally" charged the wrong car with a felony

[@kizunadragon9]

Abolish the ATF The ATF even admitted that Randy was a law abiding citizen until an undercover ATF agent asked him to break the law. how is that not entrapment?

[@danielpruitt8550]

That's sad to think about hoping to see the lord back her soon. 🙏

[@cosmonauthal7651]

And the police! Or wait do you think they are hero’s and it’s different. I just have a feeling.

[@Lazarusaffect]

There's a lot of good cops and a lot of bad cops just like everything else in life. ​@@cosmonauthal7651

[@slapper360]

Did you not finish the video? It was ruled out as entrapment in the trial.

[@elJossu]

Also abolish the fed id say

[@Jirekianu]

Horiuchi is a horrendous monster and I really hope he eventually faces justice for his actions either in this life or when he inevitably passes. I'm glad that his actions at Ruby Ridge and Waco have followed him and cost him countless consulting jobs and other employment opportunities.

[@tann_man]

He is still alive. He has an address

[@puzz8930]

@@tann_manbased

[@Soloong_Gaybowzer]

@@tann_man He's living on a taxpayer funded retirement plan out in Hawaii and under the witness protection program. He's one of the few individuals in the WPP purely because random Americans might be tempted to execute him for the murders he committed on behalf of the government.

[@Eye_Of_Odin978]

​​@@tann_man Yeah but I'll be danged if they haven't done their best to keep us from knowing it. I can't find it for the life of me. They put him into deep witness protection-type coverage after Waco, bro. They KNOW people want him.

[@patrickedwards7107]

For real he can't even be described as a sharpshooter his inept lapse of judgement or just lust for carnage he disobeyed most of the core tenants of marsmanship and engagement others historically in the role during real human conflicts had held against combatants weaver could have been the antichrist there's still no excuse left for Horiuchi and the system allowing him to evade all culpable responsibility for his actions in a twist if fate he was basically promoted to a leadership role within the organization he retired respectably probably had a whole sendoff banquet and a room full of people clapping for all the not good he did. Guy was a wetworker of the lowest quality a tin man if the law weren't blind his psychological profile would be seen as a danger to the public that belongs In a cage he's not an officer, not a soldier but a gainfully employed serial killer that enjoys what he does there's no remorse nothing we could call remotely human a name that should live in infamy a stain on the organization. There are civilian marksmen/hunters that could make a better judgement call given the very typical actually short range, the optic he had outfitted on his precision rifle, the wind and light conditions, the Intel, the element of concealment and dominant position he held all of these factors really make his choice to fire whether it was cleared or not truly inexcusable he was noted to have opened fire before cleared to engage and present at Waco this wasn't a momentary lapse of judgement a sharpshooter has to observe their target for hours sometimes seeing their face their habits and choose the optimal placement they determine outcomes with this wars have began and ended as the consequence of their work during the Civil war but especially WW1 there was a subset of taboos sharpshooters on both ends held he's truly a disgrace to that legacy. One of the daughters came forward did an interview she said they heard movement under the floorboards she recalls exactly how her mother was struck and her face blew off in front of them the infant crying she recalls the friend who was probably lungshot by pass through lingering and begging for release they heard agents below the floor listening in a following morning knowing full well Vicky was deceased officers would ask if she and the children wanted to come out and have breakfast? The system and his coworkers shouldn't have stood in solidarity they should have been men at least admitting the agent in question was unfit he couldn't even do the job clean at the height of tension there are hunters that can hit a moving deer in the vitals at the same range and elevation on a drop practically reactive I wonder if Lon in the heart he hides away was proud of his trophy unarmed woman holding a baby. Pathetic that there's probably still agents within the Bureau that idolize him and would still to this day look into citizens on his behalf.

[@gt90817]

For anyone wondering, Weaver of course lost the race for Sheriff of Boundary County. He got 21% of the vote.

[@raeoverhere923]

The media defintiely decided to keep Ruby Ridge because the alliteration looks better in print, but also, probably for the ominous foreshadowing factor. Headlines like "Massacre at Ruby Ridge" or "Ruby Ridge Firefight: 3 Dead" allow the press to use 'ruby' as a metaphor for blood and fire.

[@BBC42618]

This actually was a watershed moment for many Americans. We realized that our government played by it's own rules and didn't give a shit about our constitutional rights.

[@bigsexymanbear1950]

Damn Skippy

[@adamcuneo7189]

F*** the ATF. They are an unconstitutional bureaucracy.

[@FCKfear]

I’m seeing a ton of comments being deleted in the 2 hours this video has been up. It’s truly scary how much censorship is happening in real time on this video… God Bless the Real America. 😢

[@dext871]

idk why y’all thought they cared, to begin with lol

[@airplanes_aren.t_real]

@@dext871 decades of propaganda

[@BernietheAlpaca]

Things we learned from this: 1: the federal government is violently incompetent. 2: Bo Gritz sounds like a hell of a guy.

[@juanitoarcoiris5824]

Fr what a guy

[@CornPopsDood]

I believe his name is gripes or something similar isn’t it.

[@bubbyjon]

​@CornPopsDood it's pronounced "grights"

[@Magikarp-4ever]

Keep voting bigger government Dems and reps in then

[@Nenacu]

@@Magikarp-4ever Not like Repubs are any better. At least Dems don't care what you do in your bedroom. Both parties are into different kinds of big government.

[@jessiematthews6339]

I live in Wyoming and was about 13 when this all went down. I remember people being absolutely nuts and thinking the feds were going to bust in on anyone who owned a gun, had ever had a hunting license, etc. It was a really scary time.

[@MrJoncovert]

Talk about how many times the undercover agent tried to talk Randy into making him some sawn off shotguns. FOR LITERAL MONTHS!! It’s actually textbook entrapment.

[@florinivan6907]

Sorta but not. The system expects you to not commit a crime no matter how pressured you are to do it. I've read books about undercover work some written all the way back in 89 by actual experts in the field. What happened here is mild compared to genuinely interesting cases. Far worse than this. Entrapment is defined and interpreted very narrowly.

[@Firestorm422]

It actually isn't. Legally, it's not really entrapment, unless you provide them with the means and motivation of doing it. You basically have to be forced into doing it. It doesn't matter how many times you're asked. You still chose to do it. It's only entrapment if that choice is made for you

[@rileyellis5951]

​@@Firestorm422 and yet the charges were dropped because it was ruled as entrapment

[@getthegoons]

Idk I feel like it should be illegal for cops to ask you to do something illegal and harass you for it repeatedly, until you do it, then try to jail you for it. Just seems kind of counter intuitive.

[@King_Minos64]

@@getthegoonsIt’s all about getting somewhat legitimate justification for arrest to further another purpose. It’s never about the actual crime they goad people into doing. They just want an excuse to get someone in a cell without seeming unlawful, whether to extract information directly or Al-Capone them.

[@kodith187]

“In short - repeal the NFA” Music to my ears honestly

[@jackmerrick7419]

While they're at it, have a look at the stupid knife laws over in the UK.

[@mariokarter13]

The goal of the NFA was to target handguns in a roundabout way that made it less obvious they were targeting handguns. The law makes no sense because they tried pulling a fast one and lawyered too hard.

[@stevep7346]

Even from a purely pragmatic "does this law do anything to help reduce crime" perspective, these laws do more harm than good. Plus I'd love to own some sweet post 86 mg's and the NFA makes that impossible.

[@brianbelgard5988]

@@stevep7346if you don’t like the cumbersome nature of the nfa, you have only yourself to blame. Modernizing it will never get passed because single issue gun voters want it gone entirely, and everyone knows any changes will give the Supreme Court cover to strike it.

[@zombieranger3410]

The NFA was originally designed to “””restrict””” the use of handguns by putting a flat $200 (in 1930’s money) tax stamp on them. They wanted to do this because all of the 30’s gangsters and booze runners were using pistols. They also wanted to “””restrict””” short-barreled rifles and shotguns to prevent circumnavigating the law. I should also mention machineguns were also added to the “restriction” category, but you cannot get a post-1986 machinegun because in 1986 they made a registry of all machineguns and closed it. This means that there is a list of legal machineguns but the list is static and finite and still requires tax stamps, and due to demand all of those machineguns are as expensive as cars on the low end, and sports cars on the high end. This is a very shit ruling that even then would’ve likely not passed or would’ve been taken down just a few years later, but instead the National Rifle Association (NRA) made a deal with Congress to allow handguns in exchange for their approval and support. So, handguns got exempt, but we still have the leftover “restrictions” on SBRs and SBSs. So thats why today it’s completely fine to own a handgun, even one in .410, but to take a shotgun and cut it down below 16” without a $200 tax stamp is a very serious federal felony that gets you more jail time than actually committing a violent crime. So when you hear people say “repeal the NFA” all they are really saying is “unrestrict short-barreled rifles and shotguns, suppressors, and open back up the machinegun registry”. I would also like if we throw away all of our importation laws, as currently much of the world can’t import guns to the U.S., and anything that was at one point full-auto has to be butchered and turned into near-slag.

[@MegaSamUwell]

The government read “the tyrants blood will flow” as “intent” which is funny because it would imply the government recognizes itself as the “tyrant”

[@hithere5553]

I mean, (figure of authority) blood will flow, addressed to the government, by known “associates” of a group known for terrorism, who sold illegally modified weapons to a federal agent, in regards to a court order. I know the result was terrible and the government is incompetent, but Jesus Christ that has to one of the most incriminating things I’ve ever heard an innocent person write. It’s like saying “I’m bout to blow up this plane” when you have explosive diarrhea and are running for the restroom.

[@wontonschannel]

yeah but that doesn't mean they agree with his analysis, it's just that they recognize that's what he called them.

[@Unknown-hb3id]

Wouldn't it just be crazy if the government did something to resemble that and consistently justify Randall's paranoia...

[@RanchKings]

fr@@Unknown-hb3id

[@MarshmallowEclipse]

While that is kind of funny, it makes sense, because if someone writes that at you, you're probably going to assume they're insulting you.

[@averagezombie125]

"The Next Time That Somebody Tells You, “The Government Wouldn’t Do That,” Oh Yes They Would" ~Wendigoon

[@Double_Jae]

What a shame that Wendigoon tied himself up to a chair then shot himself in the back of the head with two different guns. Really sucks, mental health is important.

[@adamcuneo7189]

Speaking of Isaiah's mention of the Oklahoma City bombing, it's kind of weird how fast they gave Timothy McVeigh capital punishment, compared to other people who do similar things and just spend the rest of their lives in prison.

[@Mike-es2yg]

​@adamcuneo7189 Because it was done by the govt, and they wanted McV silenced

[@adamcuneo7189]

@@Mike-es2yg It seems like it, to be honest, especially after one of his motives for the attack being apparently to cause a revolution or something, from what I read, and he was anti-government.

[@adamcuneo7189]

@@Mike-es2yg It sure seems like it, even after one of his motives for the attack was because he was anti-government.

[@eliyarrows2456]

Yeah it’s a shame that Wendigoon never learned how to swim because maybe then he wouldn’t have downed in 2 ft of water while paddle boarding.

[@FruitzSaladz]

Watching him struggle to talk about Vikki reminded me why I respect him so much. Truly a kind soul.

[@kaivogel253]

you mean the neonazi who got his family in this vicious circle of violence? Of which he is totally innocent of course? Totally deserves respect, you're right, bootlicker.

[@shamaal123]

Made me cry.

[@0008loser]

Lol

[@NotTheGrimmReaper]

someone being a normal human makes you cry? lol

[@jessieelaine1815]

​@@NotTheGrimmReaperChill, some people are more sensitive than others

[@MuffinDaMoose]

And remember kids, next time somebody says, “the government wouldn’t do that” oh yes they would

[@nman551]

Yeah.

[@marocat4749]

Not always, its still important whats real and what not. Loosing that makes it easier to play you. Like yes it does but there is still a logic to it that just being conspiritorial isnt good at getting and preventing when possible. Its a weird logic but its often not that bad hidden, or competent, if done. letting paranoia running you is as bad as ignoring shady stuff.

[@kaivogel253]

but definitely not the neonazi terrorist groups, those are your good guys, right?

[@subrosa4792]

@@marocat4749edited and still doesn’t make any sense.

[@MrSmith0128]

You probably have thin blue line sticker on your vehicle...