How We Built a $150 Million Streaming Platform with $100,000

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Wendover Productions

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@Bayoll
@Bayoll Жыл бұрын
It has come full circle Sam is doing a video essay on himself This is peak wendover
@zdtvcomet
@zdtvcomet Жыл бұрын
But.... He's not an airplane! This is outrageous!😁
@namenamename390
@namenamename390 Жыл бұрын
@@zdtvcomet Imagine if he filmed this on an airplane, in a cramped economy seat with random other passengers next to him lol
@joostvhts
@joostvhts Жыл бұрын
@@zdtvcomet I also missed a significant amount of bricks
@alexk8599
@alexk8599 Жыл бұрын
And of course it started with planes
@vrclckd-zz3pv
@vrclckd-zz3pv Жыл бұрын
Twice As Interesting
@MinuteEarth
@MinuteEarth Жыл бұрын
The Insane Logistics of a Creator-Run Platform
@Themrfuzzypants
@Themrfuzzypants Жыл бұрын
Peak title
@10tothe10088
@10tothe10088 Жыл бұрын
Been waiting for a Wendover video about videos for a while 😂
@JewFroBro
@JewFroBro Жыл бұрын
MinutePhyics and MinuteBody are on Nebula, but when MinuteEarth?
@astrumespanol
@astrumespanol Жыл бұрын
😂
@fyt54321
@fyt54321 Жыл бұрын
Nebula eventually turns into Discovery Communications TLC History Science channels one way or another ... then new seasons of "Nebula presents Ancient Aliens" and "Nebula Pawn Stars".
@RealEngineering
@RealEngineering Жыл бұрын
A trip down memory lane 🥲
@zyansheep
@zyansheep Жыл бұрын
Thanks Mr. Engineering!
@dirkeisinger4355
@dirkeisinger4355 Жыл бұрын
sidenote: while i.m happy to pay for nebula, the overall UX on nebula is that okay, but i still use youtube to watch the same creators 95% of the time (and given the number of comments by other nebula subscribers here, i.m not alone)
@internet_userr
@internet_userr Жыл бұрын
​@@dirkeisinger4355NGL I use KZbin cuz it has much more creators who upload much more regularly.
@Random_dud31
@Random_dud31 Жыл бұрын
​@@internet_userr and its free
@sibu7
@sibu7 Жыл бұрын
@@dirkeisinger4355 Since there are no ads on Nebula, I don't think they care too much that many people still watch most videos on KZbin instead of Nebula. In fact, I think they potentially even generate more revenue this way, as you already paid them for the Nebula subscription and you still watch the sponsorships on KZbin videos. I watch most videos on KZbin too, except exclusive content that is only on Nebula and Jet Lag The Game, where I can watch new episodes 1 week early.
@Slackarius
@Slackarius Жыл бұрын
Out of all the things Nebula has brought to me, my favorite is getting to see Ben and Adam running wild and free out in the world.
@domacenoviny
@domacenoviny Жыл бұрын
Jetlaaag. Can't wait for next Wednesday 😅
Жыл бұрын
I am a follower of everything Sam does since the 2017-18 era (back when the channel was significantly smaller - and there was just one channel), but now, after a long time of trying, I finally convinced my wife to watch Jet Lag with me - she reluctantly agreed, as a favor to me. After the first episode (I chose season 5), she was so hooked that we breezed through the rest of the season in less than 3 evenings and will watch the other seasons soon too. Well done Sam, Adam, Ben and everyone on the staff!
@zsoltpeterdaniel8413
@zsoltpeterdaniel8413 Жыл бұрын
​@so you wife just watched Ben getting drunk repetately /s
@AdamIannazzone
@AdamIannazzone Жыл бұрын
@@shadownetzero1914 Amy's not real. Amy can't hurt me
@tsuchan
@tsuchan Жыл бұрын
On a few occasions, I've spent hours looking on Nebula for good creators. I have to say that I have never become a long-term follower of any channel I didn't first first find on KZbin though. Nothing I've found in Nebula searches has ever captured my interest.
@Zveebo
@Zveebo Жыл бұрын
I know this is a story that will probably never be told, but I’m super fascinated by why CGP Grey and Kurzgesagt dropped out after having been the key movers behind Nebula and Standard in the early days!
@Pykenike1
@Pykenike1 Жыл бұрын
Yes, me too. Fan of cgp gray especially and i truly hope he comes back to nebula one day. Probably won't though, who wants to go back to a company that you sold yourself before it was successful?
@Zveebo
@Zveebo Жыл бұрын
@@Pykenike1 Yeah, I think there’s pretty much zero chance of him coming back now. He didn’t just leave as the major co-owners, he (and Kurzgesagt) took all their content off the platform too. So there was obviously some sort of major split.
@TS6815
@TS6815 Жыл бұрын
realistically.... just look at the patreon numbers. Through all of this, Kurz and Grey would have been complete whales in the space compared with all the other creators. Likely the same reason Tom Scott never jumped on... they're independently successful on their own
@Zveebo
@Zveebo Жыл бұрын
@@TS6815 Maybe, though that doesn’t really work with them being the key drivers behind it for the first couple of years. Certainly though, they don’t *need* it in quite the same way - Grey in particular has a pretty sweet deal in which he rakes in huge amounts of cash while spending most of the year not working and barely bothering to produce videos even for the rest. Though I suspect it’s probably more money and personality related - Grey and Dettmer are both famously pretty awkward characters and difficult to work with.
@personzorz
@personzorz Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure it's them prostituting themselves before big business interests to make them look good in their videos, which the big business interests will only be interested in with very large viewership numbers
@jottys3709
@jottys3709 Жыл бұрын
I originally also thought this would be another streaming flop but here we are years later and I’m glad to see the growth Nebula has shown
@internet_userr
@internet_userr Жыл бұрын
Spolier alert
@jottys3709
@jottys3709 Жыл бұрын
@@internet_userr It’s literally the title
@gtoger
@gtoger Жыл бұрын
Same. But I've had my annual subscription for 3 years now and have really enjoyed being proven wrong by a scrappy bunch of creators!
@justamanchimp
@justamanchimp Жыл бұрын
I never thought it would be a flop, I always sensed these guys were way more talented than the average KZbinr and of course they would take this venture as serious as they do their content, in my eyes it was inevitable, it's inevitable when you group together not only such talented people, but talented people who don't have massive egos like gaming KZbinrs or musicians for example
@jottys3709
@jottys3709 Жыл бұрын
@@justamanchimp Yeah In retrospect I can definitely also see the promise these guys had comparative to other such made projects. It was just at the time I had seen it happen and failed before so wasn’t convinced. So glad to be proven wrong
@probablypablito
@probablypablito Жыл бұрын
Had no idea Nebula was so big! I always thought it weird when creators said "my streaming service Nebula". Good job to you and everyone involved!
@JakoZestoko
@JakoZestoko Жыл бұрын
I think Nebula is proof of how much people hate ads and just want to support creators directly instead. I get spared my time and sanity, and the creator gets way more than they ever would from me watching advertisements. Win-win.
@JordanPeace
@JordanPeace Жыл бұрын
This is the biggest thing, especially now that sponsorships in videos are so prevalent and getting more and more intrusive (2-3 minutes instead of 30-60 seconds, having crucial plot points of the video be interspersed within the ad read so you can’t just mindlessly skip past it, etc.). Having a space that is free from ads where you also know that you’re benefiting the creator directly (and significantly more than if you signed up for some random subscription service or mobile game or bought some cheap mass marketable product that has next to nothing to do with their content) is such a nice way to operate a curated streaming platform that also allows creators to explore higher budget video concepts than they otherwise would. Truly the best experience for everyone involved
@the.abhiram.r
@the.abhiram.r Жыл бұрын
the only issue is that some people physically can't afford to pay them directly. for example, i am a college student and i probably won't be able to afford such a service for a while.
@JakoZestoko
@JakoZestoko Жыл бұрын
@@the.abhiram.r I mean, I too am a student (and have been for a while) with very very low net income, but even for me $30 a year is laughable compared to my other expenses. That price to not see ads is a no brainer for me.
@sonydee33
@sonydee33 Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile they relied heavily on KZbin sponsors and ads to promote nebula.
@180_S
@180_S Жыл бұрын
But the rest of the internet says otherwise
@DomBurgess
@DomBurgess Жыл бұрын
I've worked at Nebula almost 4 years now, great to be a part of such a positive success story. Awesome to see it summarised so well, thanks Sam!
@saddish2816
@saddish2816 Жыл бұрын
Dom???
@DomBurgess
@DomBurgess Жыл бұрын
@@saddish2816 Yes?
@Wimbold
@Wimbold Жыл бұрын
When are you going to start accepting PayPal as a payment option?
@whosjulez1157
@whosjulez1157 Жыл бұрын
When do you tackle user convenience?
@BobbyVans-hf8mq
@BobbyVans-hf8mq Жыл бұрын
This company is part of that other company where the guy from Cleveland basically took a train to LA and started his first company that’s portfolio runs itself
@jamesdavies5386
@jamesdavies5386 Жыл бұрын
Another important factor is the level of loyalty Nebula customers have to the creator. Unlike companies like Netflix, there is a high degree of trust that whether a piece of content aligns with a subscriber’s interests or not it WILL be high quality. If this isn’t the ultimate demo of why just making a good product is the most important part of business I don’t know what is.
@caskadestudio
@caskadestudio 3 ай бұрын
To add to this, it also provides an incentive to the platform & the creators to _continue_ making high quality content. Netflix has limited incentive to continue to provide consistent, popular and quality offerings because people will stay subscribed anyway to watch old content and/or for pop culture. Having a much more deeply invested audience essentially forces creators' hands in making continually high quality and relevant content to keep subscribers.
@anarchyelite9338
@anarchyelite9338 Жыл бұрын
Wow. Transparency… what a breath of fresh air. With sooooo much obvious B.S. out there and people dancing around stuff, it’s so nice to just hear genuine honesty and on a very intriguing subject that no one ever discusses.
@Serpolinidate
@Serpolinidate Жыл бұрын
Yep, so very true
@samplautz5586
@samplautz5586 Жыл бұрын
Transparency is exactly why they are successful. It’s amazing that if you don’t take advantage of people and just give people awesome content with no strings, you grow exponentially
@K..C
@K..C Жыл бұрын
@@samplautz5586ikr who would have thought that a good product at a good price would sell well. I just wish big companies would learn about such groundbreaking methods as well…
@NotJustBikes
@NotJustBikes Жыл бұрын
Wow it's amazing to hear the whole story told like this. I've heard bits and pieces of it, but it was great to see it all spelled our so clearly. Joining Nebula was by far the best thing I did for my channel. It's all been great, but the best part is the fantastic Nebula creators I've been able to meet; it's a great group of people. Here's to an even more successful 2023 and beyond! 🥂
@roman_fla
@roman_fla Жыл бұрын
When’s your next video coming?
@firstmoviesHD
@firstmoviesHD Жыл бұрын
@@roman_fla it’s already on nebula lol
@MaskMcGee
@MaskMcGee Жыл бұрын
Linus Tech Tips says you're lying
@haisheauspforte1632
@haisheauspforte1632 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for Jet Lag on bikes in the Netherlands 😏
@vonoxid
@vonoxid Жыл бұрын
@@haisheauspforte1632with @NotJustBikes Sign me up
@Nixontheman
@Nixontheman Жыл бұрын
The actual reason Nebula works is the price, that and an appreciation for the creators who gave us such great content for free for so long, (Mustard, Real engineering, RLL and even you Sam) we are happy to support you.
@craigslist6988
@craigslist6988 Жыл бұрын
tbh I wonder if they realize that. Nebula is just a great way to let people pay a very reasonable amount to support people they wanted to support but didn't have quite the right context or excuse to. So it's easy to sign up and call it donating to the content creators (critically, the content creators actually do effectively make a lot from it, it's not all getting drained off by middle men, so it is an effective way to give support), and if you use the service on top of that then that's a great bonus. I think it's important they understand that because it does affect the future strategy. For example, until they have a much higher draw it would be a mistake to do like Joe Rogan did and move the bulk of their content exclusively behind a paywall, I.e. to Nebula. Even though it sounds like people would be drawn even more to it, I think instead they would lose people who prefer watching on yt but subscribed to donate/support. The current model of additional content just makes a lot more sense.
@mvadu
@mvadu Жыл бұрын
Exactly.. I signed up for Curiosity bundle two years ago, but on my LG tv I don't even have a watch Nebula. But that was okay since it was me paying to creators for their effort than skipping ads. I did enjoy the Curiosity part of the deal thoroughly as well since they had an app.
@Alexrocksdude_
@Alexrocksdude_ Жыл бұрын
I won’t be renewing my nebula subscription when it expires because the cheap bundle with curiosity stream is no longer active.
@Rebasepoiss
@Rebasepoiss Жыл бұрын
The regular price is 5 bucks per month, I believe. I pay € 8.5 for KZbin premium and this includes KZbin music. Price-wise it doesn't really make sense.
@Nixontheman
@Nixontheman Жыл бұрын
@@craigslist6988, I agree.
@scottmadison4380
@scottmadison4380 Жыл бұрын
Wow. I am surprised-not-surprised at how many of these creaters I recognize on sight. Just everyone who makes informational videos who have good ethos and content. I am downright *PROUD* to be supporting Nebula (and curiosity stream!)
@shafu0x
@shafu0x Жыл бұрын
I agree but you always had youtube premium if you don't want to see the ads on yt.
@thermoflaskcat121
@thermoflaskcat121 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@KarolYuuki
@KarolYuuki Жыл бұрын
Right? It's crazy how it's a very specific niche. Most of the channels I already watched one day just started to make nebula ads. I was recognizing everyone on those pictures hahaha
@kimw3284
@kimw3284 Жыл бұрын
I had been seriously considering subscribing to Nebula for a while and this video pushed me over the edge. It was fascinating to understand how it came to be and how it supports creators in ways that KZbin and other streaming platforms don't. I'm really happy to be able to support so many of my favorite creators with my subscription. Well done Sam and team!
@jjoohhhnn
@jjoohhhnn Жыл бұрын
It's also the only place Lindsay Ellis publishes videos now. Nebula has a lot of great exclusives.
@whosjulez1157
@whosjulez1157 Жыл бұрын
We seriously need to rethink the word "support"
@spencerberg7477
@spencerberg7477 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been a nebula subscriber for a year now and I’ve never been happier with a subscription service! The one time there was an error I emailed the team they fixed it immediately and were incredibly friendly. (Just please add comments!!)
@colefreeman4093
@colefreeman4093 Жыл бұрын
yes! absolutely love nebula, but I often find myself watching a video on nebula first, then heading over to youtube to go look at the comments. Not at all disappointed with my subscription though. The original content is leagues better than I thought it would be and the ui is great. Even has a few features baked into it that I wish were in youtube.
@CurtisDas
@CurtisDas Жыл бұрын
⁠@@colefreeman4093does nebula not have comments?
@e1123581321345589144
@e1123581321345589144 Жыл бұрын
@@CurtisDas nope, it does not
@alexh4935
@alexh4935 Жыл бұрын
Considering how toxic KZbin comments can be, maybe that is a feature rather than a bug. I imagine the crowd is less toxic with paid subscribers who are still mostly idealistic fans following their favorite artists. But it still means a host of work policing the comments for hate, dangerous misinformation, and spam.
@Velvix420
@Velvix420 Жыл бұрын
I’m watching this on Nebula and reading KZbin comments lol
@UndecidedMF
@UndecidedMF Жыл бұрын
Love this. You all have built something incredible. Well done.
@pyropulseIXXI
@pyropulseIXXI Жыл бұрын
They've built pure crap; I don't know a single person that has ever paid for Nebula
@holdengohs6997
@holdengohs6997 Жыл бұрын
@@pyropulseIXXIust cuz you don’t know anyone doesn’t mean people don’t. They have data lol
@penguindiego
@penguindiego Жыл бұрын
​@@pyropulseIXXI get off mate.!!
@JennyMDMA
@JennyMDMA Жыл бұрын
​@@pyropulseIXXIThis is pretty sad self-burn.
@pyropulseIXXI
@pyropulseIXXI Жыл бұрын
@@JennyMDMA You people pay for a shit service; that is what is sad CONSOM MOAR AND GET EXITED FOR MORE CONSOOOOMING
@dand5829
@dand5829 Жыл бұрын
So you guys know, Sam did this when he was about 20 years old. Huge props for that
@noob.168
@noob.168 Жыл бұрын
That's old. People back then had children at age 12 and died at 25.
@nefariousyawn
@nefariousyawn Жыл бұрын
And he hasn't aged a day since then! It's pretty incredible what this guy can do.
@ShinyWasTakenTwice
@ShinyWasTakenTwice Жыл бұрын
@@noob.168 What? Back when? 12 has never been a common age for child birth let alone standard, also even in the poorest places in the worst times odds are if you made it to 20 you where probably gonna make it to 30 at least.
@prdproductions
@prdproductions Жыл бұрын
@@noob.168 That's literally not true at all lol. Infant mortality is the reason for low average lifespan. People had much longer lifespans if you made it past childhood
@virathdealwis5312
@virathdealwis5312 Жыл бұрын
​@@noob.168where are you getting that nonsense from?? High infant mortality brings down the average, but realistically if you live to 10 you'll live to 20, to 30, 40 etc. Plenty of records of people in their 70s and 80s
@AliceYobby
@AliceYobby Жыл бұрын
Knowing that Sam owns a $150 Million company makes it much easier to root against him in Jet Lag now. I really saw him as an underdog 😭
@Rollampert
@Rollampert Жыл бұрын
a part of it ...
@DavidHanks90
@DavidHanks90 Жыл бұрын
He owns a part of of a company valued at $150 mil. That doesn't mean that he has that much money or that he could even get that much if he "cashed out" of his ownership stake. I'm sure he's not hurting for money, but he's not unbelievably rich or anything. At least not yet lol
@jujhar.
@jujhar. Жыл бұрын
That doesn't mean he has 150 mill in the bank bro. He owns a PORTION of the company and even if the company was sold he'd get only 50 percent of his portion.
@swecreations
@swecreations Жыл бұрын
@@jujhar.50% is for the creators. He is a creator *and* an owner. He'd get a part of the 50% share reserved for creators *and* a part of the 50% share reserved for owners.
@thermoflaskcat121
@thermoflaskcat121 Жыл бұрын
I agree
@sinatrabone
@sinatrabone Жыл бұрын
Supporting Nebula is like supporting your local food co-op. I love that you all have found a way to keep this creator-owned. And thanks for sharing the story. I felt some loyalty already, but this cemented it even more so.
@one_under_all
@one_under_all 11 күн бұрын
Not really a co-op imo. because the creators & workers dont own it. Standard (biggest nebula owner) is wholly owned by 44 creators, nebula has more creators than that. In my view a co-op / cooperative are owned by the workers (including all creators in this case) Plus they never say their a co-op
@GayGHvain87
@GayGHvain87 Жыл бұрын
Well that was extremely informative and super heartwarming to see how this developed, and how all of you guys managed to make Nebula happen and thrive. Like you said, it's not about taking viewers' money. It's about having a platform where original content is created and watched, WITHOUT those stupid ads, ALL THE WHILE being able to perform financially so everyone can get paid for the hard work you put in, from the famous creators to all the staff !
@EEVblog
@EEVblog Жыл бұрын
Well done. Makes us full time electronics KZbinrs look like a bunch of amateur hacks. Guilty as charged, of course.
@philosophy_bot4171
@philosophy_bot4171 Жыл бұрын
Beep bop... I'm the Philosophy Bot. Here, have a quote: "Beauty is mysterious as well as terrible. God and devil are fighting there, and the battlefield is the heart of man" ~ Dostoevsky
@taavi948
@taavi948 Жыл бұрын
Sad that nebula sucks and crashes all the time
@davak72
@davak72 Жыл бұрын
@@taavi948 Really? I mostly want comments, but it works fine for me
@thewhitefalcon8539
@thewhitefalcon8539 Жыл бұрын
Why aren't you on Nebula, Dave? They're sorry Dave, they can't let you do that?
@flymypg
@flymypg Жыл бұрын
I'd LOVE to see Dave make videos in a glitzy studio wearing a button-down shirt! Just to see how many videos would be made before his head explodes.
@NathanCorleone
@NathanCorleone Жыл бұрын
Mad respect for being able to pull this whole business off.
@KevinJDildonik
@KevinJDildonik Жыл бұрын
CS stream was founded by the CEO of Discovery Channel "small group of creators" my ass.
@eternalRBLX
@eternalRBLX Жыл бұрын
@@KevinJDildonik wow! they got an investment so they didnt do any work! logic
@funkintonbeardo
@funkintonbeardo Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call it pulling it off until it becomes profitable. 5 bucks a year per viewer doesn't project high confidence in me.
@raifij6698
@raifij6698 Жыл бұрын
​@@funkintonbeardowhat he already said they already got profit. But much of that profit invested back to grow the platform
@eternalRBLX
@eternalRBLX Жыл бұрын
@@funkintonbeardo 5x650,000 (stated viewers)
@Patterrz
@Patterrz Жыл бұрын
This is an awesome setup you've all made! It's clear you're super passionate about making it work and providing content that is worth the sign up price. I've been influenced i'm gonna check it out
@KawazoeMasahiro
@KawazoeMasahiro Жыл бұрын
I'm an OG Nebula subscriber. I absolutely love what you guys made. I remember hearing about it in the very early days, and opt-into a yearly subscription when Adam did their first bundle push. I didn't subscribed because of Curiosity Stream, but because that's he's the first that really managed to explain the idea. There are two aspects of the platform that I think would need to be improved for it to be a full KZbin replacement for me: The first one goes without saying. Lately, I've been catching myself watching Nebula creators on KZbin more and more, simply because I happened to get their video recommended to me while I was watching other people's videos. I follow so many creators that it can get hard to remember on which platform I want to watch their content, and the relentless KZbin algorithm really doesn't help with that. This is happening mostly because I am watching more and more small creators will video of less than 50k views on average; and these people aren't on Nebula. I have to watch them on KZbin, and KZbin _knows_ me. Even if I unsubscribed from Adam Neely years ago in favor of their Nebula content, it still promotes their video to me because it knows I will end up watching them. The second one is, from my understanding, somewhat of a controversy. Nebula, as a streaming platform, is a lot closer to Netflix than to KZbin. It's about getting videos from creators to viewers. There isn't any social network presence over there. This means that, ironically, I have to write this comment for a video I watched on Nebula on KZbin, of all places! This means Nebula is an awful place for tons of creators who relies on audience interactions to build up their videos. I'm thinking about gaming audiences like those from the Hermitcraft community, review and news channels like Gamers Nexus, or other smaller creators that are still trying to understand what their viewers like about them. I am aware of the difficulties that comes with running a social network, specially when it comes to dealing with the various app stores insane requirements. I wouldn't wish you the Floatplane treatment for anything in the world. That stuff is hyper customer hostile. However, I feel like it might be time to take the plunge. It's just sad that Nebula isn't the place for everyone that KZbin is, because it means that I still need to use KZbin, and pay for KZbin Red to make it palatable, which I hate doing more and more, and it all spirals into me using Nebula less than I want to. I cannot believe I am the only one in such a situation, and I really hope that you'll find a solution to this problem.
@MaulikParmar210
@MaulikParmar210 Жыл бұрын
What they need is cash to develop. Creating a streaming platform on 3rd party is very easy, most of revenues are chewed up supporting infrastructure rather than improving it. They may have good cash run in the pandemic, but that was a one-time thing. Google, on the other hand, owns full vertical and horizontal integration of platform and data. Reaching those levels is beyond anyone's capability unless people stop using YT and start alternaitves. People who use YT premium won't miss much, honestly. Creators have a choice. Only thing nebula did was to change on how YT treats their content creators, but they eventually expose themselves even more on a free to watch platform. Afterall, creators only make money when YT does. Maintaining gigantic infrastructure is not something your average data centre provider can do it all ocmds down to runtime costs and generated value when it comes to streaming paltforms. Besides they seem overwhelmed already from this scale. It's hard to calculate that without future cashflow they will burnout within a year that too with very small funds compare to what actual startup needs. P.S. fix typos
@IroAppe
@IroAppe Жыл бұрын
Great summary! Nebula isn't a KZbin alternative, and I question how they'd even think about that. KZbin is social, and that's an essential difference. When I'm watching a video, I can communicate and exchange thoughts and emotions with other people about that content - that's what makes KZbin special. And unless other services start to adopt that social component, I will never view them as an alternative. Because it's just static watching, like on Netflix. There is no interaction. I get how annoying people are and how much work it is. But there is just something missing on platforms where you can merely consume, and not participate. I am so used to exchanging my thoughts with others, that even on static video platforms there are moments where I want that exchange. But especially at the end. Often I go to KZbin to specifically find a reaction to that content to find that exchange. But it's an additional effort and overall just not the same.
@ooooneeee
@ooooneeee Жыл бұрын
Agreed, nebula badly needs commenting, discussions, forums, something anything where I can interact with other viewers and the video creator.
@beatm6948
@beatm6948 Жыл бұрын
That would be great, but do keep in mind forums require moderation, which is often a BIG undertaking.
@Owlr4ider
@Owlr4ider Жыл бұрын
@@beatm6948 Forums don't require moderation. Moderation is a tool that is commonly used, yes, but it isn't mandatory. I do agree with you though that if you choose to go with moderation you can't half arse it, you have to go all in, which is indeed a BIG undertaking. The thing is you don't actually have to do it. Especially on a platform like Nebula which attracts a certain type of people, which is the exact opposite type of the typical trolls/flamers/etc that require said moderation in the first place. I mean sure, if you go without moderation you need to have a thick skin and a high tolerance level for the inevitable obscenities as these will occasionally happen, there's no way around that. However when those instances are few and far between and there isn't anyone pouring oil onto the fire these instances die down as quickly as they pop up, which ultimately make them a non issue. Special snowflake type people aside, if you're such a special snowflake than no, a no moderation social platform will definitely not be for you... Whether you're a creator or a customer.
@TheKeeperofChaos
@TheKeeperofChaos Жыл бұрын
Next up: the insane logistics of an insane logistics Wendover video! No but for real, this was another great watch, and I do appreciate what Nebula is as a platform and a vision. So thank you Sam, and all other creators involved!
@ThePaulMcBride
@ThePaulMcBride Жыл бұрын
I've been a subscriber for several years and it is so great to see how well Nebula is doing. I'm a software developer and would love to work on something like this. An industry where and a company where when the company does well, everyone does. Congrats!
@Robin_Goodfellow
@Robin_Goodfellow Жыл бұрын
I'll tell you what sold me on Nebula: it was realizing that most of the creators I watch made content there. There is value in having multiple creators from a particular interest niche on the platform. I will also mention that the low review score for your Android app scared me away for a long time, too. I know you have no control over what reviewers say, but it's worth knowing that they had a pretty big effect on my decision making process. I'm glad I finally got over it and downloaded the app though, because I personally have no real complaints about it.
@mr.boomguy
@mr.boomguy Жыл бұрын
Haters be haters. Perhaps they didn't realize it was subscripsion based? Or perhaps while it was still young?
@Robin_Goodfellow
@Robin_Goodfellow Жыл бұрын
@@mr.boomguy maybe. I definitely think it's underrated at the moment.
@sylvy16
@sylvy16 Жыл бұрын
yes this is one of the main selling points. jet lag alone is worth 5$ a month but also having wendover and many others i follow for that same price is incredible.
@zimbu_
@zimbu_ Жыл бұрын
I saw a lot of complaints about the app defaulting to 1080p even when the internet connection is either not fast enough or not reliable enough. I think they could benefit from prompting the user to add a review after they've finished watching their tenth video on the app or something, the review score would go up if they got users with nothing else to say than "works fine" to leave reviews instead of just those who are experiencing an issue and leave a review to inform what the issue was.
@KalebPeters99
@KalebPeters99 Жыл бұрын
I've found the android app experience pretty poor as well. I don't know if it warrants the 2.4 rating, but it is one huge reason I still prefer KZbin.
@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley
@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley Жыл бұрын
When creators would say "OUR new streaming service", I rolled my eyes at the wording. Lo and behold, now I see it actually WAS created by creators and that's seriously awesome! I'm happy you've shared this origin story, it makes the service a lot more human and approchable. Here's to more of its success! 🎉
@tsuchan
@tsuchan Жыл бұрын
What gets me is how many creators say "MY streaming service". Why do they say that?
@a-r
@a-r Жыл бұрын
​@@tsuchanI've never heard anyone say that, but in this case it's because Sam was part of creating Nebula.
@tsuchan
@tsuchan Жыл бұрын
@@a-r Ho yes.... TechAltar/Friday Checkout guy (I particularly remember) did that on every video when I was subscribed to it.
@Speedster___
@Speedster___ Жыл бұрын
@@tsuchanit’s to appeal to fans who support the creator. It’s a way to direct fans that they have a connection to it besides being paid for an ad roll
@tsuchan
@tsuchan Жыл бұрын
@@Speedster___ Hmm, is it? To me, "OUR streaming service" sounds very engaging; but "MY streaming service" when it was a lie eventually pissed me off enough to subscribe from TechAlter/FridayCheckout channels. (Who likes being lied to?) The other gripe I had was claiming "special price of $15 a year" or "special price of $12 a year" when it turned out to be one-year offer and then continue at a $20 a year. It's not that I minded $20 a year, I just hate being misled in adverts and left feeling like a gullible twat.
@iammrbeat
@iammrbeat Жыл бұрын
I would love to be involved with Nebula.
@trevinbeattie4888
@trevinbeattie4888 Жыл бұрын
Many of your viewers would love to see you there too. ❤
@jjoohhhnn
@jjoohhhnn Жыл бұрын
That'd be awesome!
@Dafty2k
@Dafty2k Жыл бұрын
Would be awesome
@khgray10
@khgray10 Жыл бұрын
Would be well deserved too!
@AEuropeanCitizen
@AEuropeanCitizen Жыл бұрын
Yes
@andersdenkend
@andersdenkend Жыл бұрын
I am not a subscriber, but I am honestly quite happy to see that it seems to work out for the creators. Maybe you guys can lead the change in content creation we so desperately need, not only on YT.
@CMVBrielman
@CMVBrielman Жыл бұрын
Congrats to Isaac for being the pioneer! He’s why I’m a Nebula subscriber.
@ChrispyNut
@ChrispyNut Жыл бұрын
Ditto
@languist
@languist Жыл бұрын
I've actually never tried Nebula before, so I'm curious to see how it's like.
@jonjohns8145
@jonjohns8145 Жыл бұрын
Who else but a futurist would be first .. 😄
@raifij6698
@raifij6698 Жыл бұрын
​@@languistif you are avid educational video watcher it's worth it. Here the thing because much of the video was exclusive content they are all in high quality and because the small number you can basically watch all backlogs in short time rather than KZbin where you need to watch their video constantly if not then you need to rummaging hundreds of their backlog weekly uploads.
@dogcarman
@dogcarman Жыл бұрын
@@languistLike KZbin but without ads and with a consistently high content quality. Oh, and downloads included. ❤
@snowballeffect7812
@snowballeffect7812 Жыл бұрын
I don't even watch on nebula. I just see it as a way to fund all the creators I love in one easy place. Been subscribed for years and happy with it.
@Serpolinidate
@Serpolinidate Жыл бұрын
Totally agree. On the extremely good part, creators probably acquired a very loyal customer base, on the bad part, it might be that the content offer on Nebula + CS is not yet there?
@snowballeffect7812
@snowballeffect7812 Жыл бұрын
@@Serpolinidate Yeah, if there's an extra bit I'm curious about, I'll go to Nebula to catch it. As it is, I already have way too much media to consume daily lol
@jasonwei8686
@jasonwei8686 Жыл бұрын
Yea the only think I watch on nebula is jetlag
@jjoohhhnn
@jjoohhhnn Жыл бұрын
I've had a nebula for well over a year now for the same reason. I'd use it a lot more if I could follow/subscribe to individual creators, and IDEALLY have multiple feeds for nature, science&tech, astronomy, econ, etc.
@snowballeffect7812
@snowballeffect7812 Жыл бұрын
@@jjoohhhnn That's actually a great idea. Maybe it's possible, now. I haven't explored the site in a while.
@kesorangutan6170
@kesorangutan6170 Жыл бұрын
If only you guys do regional pricing. Because right now, the 5 dollars Nebula membership is equal to 130 turkish liras while Amazon Prime is just 40 turkish liras and Spotify is just 30 liras. I don't know the logistics behind it but I think regional pricing can increase the platform's revenue.
@flymypg
@flymypg Жыл бұрын
This may be the most iconic Wendover Productions essay yet, and self-referential to boot! When you, yourself are the subject, or at least the "modus vivendi", what then must the scriptwriting do? The passion here is incredible, as is the measured risk-taking winding up at "what's to lose?". This level of essay is seldom done in the first or second person, but usually in the third or "2.5th" person, Nerdwriter style. Fantastically well done, in every aspect. I am simultaneously inspired and thankful.
@CheeseWithMold
@CheeseWithMold Жыл бұрын
I think the biggest reason behind 27:17 I think is because literally everyone is just so tired of big no-faced companies selling stuff. When presented with an opportunity to support someone who you've been watching for months or even years, and by KNOWING that the money is going to THEM, you're much more willing to actually hand over the cash. Even if the service might have a couple bumps in the road. As a happy customer, I wish much success to Nebula and hope you don't eventually go down the path that so many other companies do where you put profit over the content and more importantly over the person WHO'S GIVING YOU THE MONEY!
@morganburt2565
@morganburt2565 Жыл бұрын
y’all and crash course have such interesting and ethical business strategies! the thing that got me to sign up was, yes, the originals, but also the fact that creators can make what they want and get paid for it. worth the cost to see my favorite artists full potential. and then on the other side of the coin (hehe), crash course figured out a way to make basic knowledge free! i don’t know the exact details but i know a solid amount is made through donations from patreon to the crash course coin. either way, glad to see the people i want to get paid paid and the knowledge i want free is free :)
@garethx12
@garethx12 Жыл бұрын
I thought I would watch a lot of Topic too, so I signed up. Its ran its course, so I mostly watch Nebula too, but I do like Topic.
@justinkoster4417
@justinkoster4417 Жыл бұрын
It’s crazy everything sam has accomplished and he’s only in his mid 20s. I’ve been watching many of the nebula creators on KZbin and on nebula for years and I happily pay for the subscription
@Nooticus
@Nooticus Жыл бұрын
This ^ he's a huge inspiration to me!
@sirBrouwer
@sirBrouwer Жыл бұрын
plus the fee is dirt cheap. $12,- a year for both Nebula and Curiosity stream the price never changed from the get go for me.
@suomeaboo
@suomeaboo Жыл бұрын
What a face reveal (at least to me), and such an amazing story! I pretty much grew up on the educational side of KZbin, and have been hearing about Nebula for the last 4 years. This video might actually convince me to subscribe and see what you and all the other creators I follow have to offer there firsthand. Thank you for your efforts.
@whydoineedausername1386
@whydoineedausername1386 Жыл бұрын
Nah, he did a proper face reveal on a second channel years ago. Then showed up again on Tom Scott's Money and is now all the time on Jet Lag
@suomeaboo
@suomeaboo Жыл бұрын
@@whydoineedausername1386 Makes sense. It's just my first time seeing what he looks like.
@tsuchan
@tsuchan Жыл бұрын
@@whydoineedausername1386 First time for me to see. But he looks cooler now than in any of the photos shown in the video.
@xaf15001
@xaf15001 Жыл бұрын
It was kinda surprising knowing the man that makes brick jokes in HAL is one of the co-founders of Nebula.
@TheAuraEngineer
@TheAuraEngineer Жыл бұрын
Same, I love the education side of yt, my fav part of yt so this platform is very convincing
@Sequaloid
@Sequaloid 8 ай бұрын
So happy to be a part of the team!
@joemamaisfat
@joemamaisfat Жыл бұрын
This feels like the only ad I want to watch that’s 28 minutes long. Fucking love that platform, I watch Mustard and Real Engineering there too!
@Alex-js5lg
@Alex-js5lg Жыл бұрын
I watched a 15 minute ad from Boston Dynamics about their robot dog. Once in a while, an ad is just interesting enough to be engaging.
@JusDoc
@JusDoc Жыл бұрын
I'd be really curious for CGPGrey and Kurzgezagt's 2 cents on this business model. Clearly they're doing quite well and are fully successful with their current system, but I wonder how they feel about Nebula these days, and what their big concerns were back when they sold in 2020.
@user-uv2cp1qd1j
@user-uv2cp1qd1j Жыл бұрын
For obvious legal reasons this video glossed over that. But I’m intrigued too. Maybe pre covid Nebula’s revenue was only.. okay? The huge boost from lockdown was absolutely unprecedented, and they’re probably kicking themselves
@TheKeeperofChaos
@TheKeeperofChaos Жыл бұрын
Kurz maybe, but personally I'm not too interested in CGP Greys take on it given some of his own scummy practices (striking reactors, paywalling comments, hiding old bonus videos behind a paywall, etc)
@JZH10000
@JZH10000 Жыл бұрын
​@@TheKeeperofChaos please elaborate? What did he do exactly?
@MetDaan2912
@MetDaan2912 Жыл бұрын
@@TheKeeperofChaos There is nothing wrong with striking reactors since they literally steal market share from a video they have nothing to do with by watching it like any other person. It's just theft.
@freewyvern707
@freewyvern707 Жыл бұрын
​@@TheKeeperofChaosyou have an issue with Grey paywalling bonus videos? I presume you much despise the practice of Nebula Originals then?
@alexlevin5099
@alexlevin5099 Жыл бұрын
I think that I first joined Nebula after Real Engineering showed the first episode of the Logistics of D-Day on youtube, and that was the push to sign-up for the Curiosity Nebula bundle. I'm genuinely thrilled to have been using Nebula for years, because I really appreciate the high-quality educational content everybody on there puts out, and this seemed like a small way I could give thanks to all of you. Thank you so very much to everyone involved for making this awesome product happen, and also to Wendover specifically for this really nice behind the scenes backstory. P.S. I love that Nebula does not have a lot of features such as likes and dislikes and whatnot, my personal sole exception being that I miss having a queue function, mostly for playing videos to fall asleep too. Thanks again for believing in Nebula far enough for it to get the growth well deserved!
@MascletaTheFirst
@MascletaTheFirst Жыл бұрын
The main reason this worked in the long run really is just the value the videos have. People can actually learn al lot from subscribing. Whereas most other youtubers simply provide entertainment. Something that is clearly worth a lot less.
@curiousfirely
@curiousfirely Жыл бұрын
I love seeing this as the inheritors of vlogbrothers. Hank and Jon built the path through the wilds of early internet video, and this is the next step. Building a viable business, but with a community and creator centred ethos.
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 Жыл бұрын
And, of course, it'll come full circle when Hank and John unveil their own streaming service on which they release their new series, Sixteen Weeks to Glory, in which they finally box each other. [podcast ref]
@fredkelly6953
@fredkelly6953 Жыл бұрын
Isaac was the first creator to bring Nebula to my attention and it's actually his voice in my head that I hear doing the promotion. From there an easy 80% of my you tube content is on Nebula and even though I haven't joined for the obvious "why pay for it when..." this video has convinced me Nebula is something worth supporting and your discount is the catalyst so I've just signed up for a year. It looks like reams of content and I'm here for it, ctrl d, let's go.
@MattDiver
@MattDiver Жыл бұрын
This is the best sales pitch I've heard as a casual customer by far. In many years of hearing about these services now. I'm in.
@ethans2223
@ethans2223 Жыл бұрын
It's amazing seeing those younger pictures of Sam and just how far everything has come since then. He's only in his mid 20's and killing it. Congrats!
@eoghan.
@eoghan. Жыл бұрын
something about companies being clear and open just instantly makes me want to support them! i have subbed a few times on and off, mainly to watch specific videos, but this video has convinced me to sub for the year! thanks for the great videos
@chuckiexx
@chuckiexx 11 ай бұрын
Same here. Looking forward to supporting ethical decisions to feed the creators that make the platform rather than the exec's that try to squeeze every penny. Also.. Quality over quantity
@lerualnaej5917
@lerualnaej5917 Жыл бұрын
Honestly the biggest draw for me has to do with knowing that the money does go directly to creators. I can't throw $5 in the patron of every single person but I can throw money at Nebula and know they're getting some of it. 90% of my youtube subs are on Nebula anyway at this point, it just makes sense.
@liriodendronlasianthus
@liriodendronlasianthus Жыл бұрын
Same here, if I have 10 favourite creators, I can't possibly be spending $50 a month to support them. Nebula sounds like the next best step.
@tHebUm18
@tHebUm18 Жыл бұрын
As an OG Nebula subscriber, love this! Thank you to everyone involved in the Nebula effort to get content creators out from under the thumb of corps profiting off their work!
@SpontaneousProcess
@SpontaneousProcess Жыл бұрын
I’m an annual subscriber, and I find that the limiting factor for going to nebula is the lack of a comment section on each video. Every time I watch on your site, I find myself saying “wow, that was an interesting video! I wonder what people are talking about?”. Then I come to KZbin to read the comments. But then… why didn’t I just watch the video on KZbin?
@commisaryarreck3974
@commisaryarreck3974 Жыл бұрын
Comments might scare off the advertisers or people who prefer echo chambers
@sylvy16
@sylvy16 Жыл бұрын
@@commisaryarreck3974 but they don’t have advertisers on nebula. it’s viewer funded. comments may be removed to create any hostile environments, but i still wish they were there
@ForeignManinaForeignLand
@ForeignManinaForeignLand Жыл бұрын
Most meta video on Nebula at the moment
@benr10
@benr10 Жыл бұрын
As someone who's been around since the early days of Wendover it truly is heartwarming to see all of the success that you and your fellow creators have had. Thank you for making such great content!
@tsuchan
@tsuchan Жыл бұрын
Yes I agree with this. I'm glad they've had success.
@joshuathomas512
@joshuathomas512 Жыл бұрын
Dave is the genius here for making a company for smart content creators with those smart content creators
@adriancastellanos5335
@adriancastellanos5335 Жыл бұрын
Idk why this made me cry. Maybe it’s because you’ve all taught me so much and kept me so entertained and I’m so happy to see you all have the success you deserve.
@Nation2706
@Nation2706 Жыл бұрын
I'm not yet a Nebula subscriber but I feel every video I watch makes it harder to stay away. I love Jetlag and your logistics videos are some of my favorite so that new series is seriously tempting me. I'm sure I'll be a subscriber before the end of the year at this rate.
@2_obsessed
@2_obsessed Жыл бұрын
Signing up for nebula has been one of the best things I've ever done. Any time I'm bored or looking for something to watch, I know Nebula will have something. Its honestly incredible!
@Olufemii
@Olufemii Жыл бұрын
Freakin proud of you dude. Nebula is awesome!!
@DroneQuadcopter
@DroneQuadcopter 9 ай бұрын
I looove JET LAG so much and this look behind the curtain of how Nebula and Jet Lag started is amazing....
@TrevelyanOO6
@TrevelyanOO6 Жыл бұрын
I have Nebula, but I rarely use it. I almost always watch videos via KZbin. On reason is community features. Nebula has no comments, no good discovery or recommendations. e.g. Other users who watched this also watch that by this other creator. There’s no rating system (hate that yt now hides thumb down). For a long time Nebula lacked speed control, adding that at least let me consider watching exclusives, I’ve gotten too use to 2x. I’m glad to hear that the venture is going so well.
@LaughingOrange
@LaughingOrange Жыл бұрын
I don't think all others have failed. Linus Tech Tips has Floatplane, which is their own version of Vessel, and it is apparently a financial success. The big differences from Nebula is that creators (except LMG) don't own the platform, and each creator requires their own subscription. Floatplane does not see Nebula as a competitor, mostly due to the different business models, and Patreon is their real competition. Floatplane used the same "start small" mentality, but to them going under was not an option as they would never invest more than what LTT and eventually their own revenue was able to foot. Floatplane doesn't have outside investors, so I'd argue their model is was risky, but Nebula obviously made it too.
@-ragingpotato-937
@-ragingpotato-937 Жыл бұрын
Floatplane is not a Vessel replacement because of the crucial change that in Floatplane you pay for each individual creator you want to watch, it's not like Nebula or Vessel that you pay one fee and get access to all the creators on the platform, it's most definitely more of a "Patreon with video capabilities" where you subscribe to a person in particular. Its targeting a different audience. Nebula is an entertainment platform that offers access to more high-quality original content, targeting general consumers who just want more of the same. Floatplane meanwhile is more of a fan engagement platform that offers behind the scenes, extended cuts, and so on.
@MartinNelson
@MartinNelson Жыл бұрын
Floatplane is also vastly less technologically sophisticated. They're so busy trying to monetise that they have sacrificed functionality which they get pulled through the ringer on a LOT. In truth the fact is having been created at around the same time, a lot of people have commented on and follow both services. My belief though is that while they operate on fundamentally different models, Floatplane's days are numbered. The cost proposition during an emerging cost of living crisis that appears to be developing into a full blow recession...well...Floatplane and it's offerings is a lot more expensive. Compound this with how few creators actually offer things through Floatplane...basically, you're supporting just the one organisation - LMG. Until the C-suite of LMG actually look outside their little silo I fear that they'll continue under too many misapprehensions. Their model is just fundamentally broken imo.
@jjoohhhnn
@jjoohhhnn Жыл бұрын
Demolition ranch started bunker branding and built a mansion probably as a tax write-off and is now renovating an amusement park to host events and stuff. It's not a tech start up, but he's definitely successfully diversifying. Bunker branding does a lot of merch production for other yt channels.
@whembree
@whembree Жыл бұрын
Vimeo OTT is also still going strong, they're the backend of a lot of OTT channels that are out there today
@sinewave999
@sinewave999 Жыл бұрын
Floatplane is NOT a financial sucess. It stays afloat and provides more money per view than youtube, so it stays. The real way LTT makes more money off their videos was their huge push to get their audience to stop using adblock and pay for youtube premium instead. many many many people gloss over this but there's a considerable amount of youtube premium watchers on the LTT channels
@justamanchimp
@justamanchimp Жыл бұрын
Wtf after all these years of watching I've never seen your face until now, I never in a million years pictured you blonde blue eyes long hair! I don't know what I pictured but damn this is kinda a crazy experience for me right now 😂 On a serious note, congrats. You and nebula guys completely deserve what you've achieved. I've watched all you guys for years and watched it all unfold in real time and I always loved that you guys came together and not in a fake way, you guys genuinely supported each other and clearly all shared the same vision. Team work makes the dream work! Love it. You, Real Engineering and RLL are my favs.
@EvanAviator
@EvanAviator Жыл бұрын
You’ve watched Sam for years and never seen Jet Lag?
@ΣτελιοςΠεππας
@ΣτελιοςΠεππας Жыл бұрын
Same man. It was a bit disorienting at first.
@garethx12
@garethx12 Жыл бұрын
I stumbled across JetLag and started watching it and was like "Why does this guys voice sound so familiar?" I imagined Sam as a guy in his late 30s who looks like a bearded frazzled college professor who just didnt wanna deal with teaching classes, but wanted to get paid for talking about cool shit still and started a KZbin channel.
@justamanchimp
@justamanchimp Жыл бұрын
@@EvanAviator Nope never watched Jet lag, I think the name rings a bell tho
@justamanchimp
@justamanchimp Жыл бұрын
@@garethx12 yh lol that's kinda what I had in my head
@kofManKan
@kofManKan Жыл бұрын
I'm a subscriber to Nebula & CS for over a year. Happy with it. Well done peeps!
@jordanvanslingerland6881
@jordanvanslingerland6881 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been using Nebula for a couple of years now and it’s the place I go for content I know is always gonna be good. The awesome creators behind it having a platform to break KZbin’s monopoly is darn awesome. Cool video Sam!
@alexfoster6718
@alexfoster6718 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the transparency you gave to all the viewers and subscribers. Not only was it informative, but showed the true passion of all the creators involved.
@blava3155
@blava3155 Жыл бұрын
Really inspiring story! Just be aware that the service could be very slow in implementing much needed and easily created solutions like their subtitles' size which is enormous and takes too much of the screen. We have been asking Nebula to change the size of the subtitles for 3 years at this point and they done nothing about it.
@KevinJDildonik
@KevinJDildonik Жыл бұрын
Service is a scam. Nebula and Curiosity Stream are owned by multimillionaire venture capitalists, not small creators.
@ZecVitaly
@ZecVitaly Жыл бұрын
Thats cool bro
@creesch
@creesch Жыл бұрын
In general it still puzzles me how the platform is supposed to work. There is no real interaction (no comments) or discovery and it seems like most creators basically expect you to be on youtube and only view the exclusives on nebula.
@krissp8712
@krissp8712 Жыл бұрын
@@creesch I enjoy the adless viewing, it's the only way I can get through short HAI videos, where the percent of the video that's an ad read goes too high for me to tolerate.
@TheNobody1324
@TheNobody1324 Жыл бұрын
@@creesch Most of them use Reddit for comments. Which was a bit of a problem during the Reddit blackout
@ymeynot0405
@ymeynot0405 Жыл бұрын
I thank you for this video as it explains most of my problems I've had with the Nebula player. I also sad to learn that Grey left right before the boom, but glad that the additional creators were brought on.
@Veilure
@Veilure Жыл бұрын
Grey leaving was surprising to me, too, but considering his typical risk aversion, I can't say it's unexpected. I hope they both rejoin :P
@Dave_Sisson
@Dave_Sisson Жыл бұрын
I'm also curious about Tom Scott's brief involvement. Was he ever fully on board and if so, why did he leave?
@dddgaming885
@dddgaming885 Жыл бұрын
​@@Veilurei doubt he ever will. they (sam, brian, and co) had to plead with grey to sell it to them rather than shut the whole thing down like he wanted. i don't think they're on great terms. plus grey has patreon, which he seems to be doubling down on.
@Veilure
@Veilure Жыл бұрын
@@dddgaming885 sad to hear 😥
@CHEFPKR
@CHEFPKR Жыл бұрын
Loved this video sir. Joining Nebula has been so very eye opening for me in so many ways. Now I need to make better videos to keep up.
@techny3000
@techny3000 Жыл бұрын
I like that Nebula succeeded Its content is very interesting, and I love that creators were seen as partners, rather than a product
@joshua_lee732
@joshua_lee732 Жыл бұрын
This is actually the sales pitch I needed from Nebula.
@majorfallacy5926
@majorfallacy5926 Жыл бұрын
I've always been a bit suspicious about the marketing since Nebula is advertised like a coop when it isn't one, so this video helped clear that up and made me consider subscribing. That, and the awesome privacy policy.
@Retro_Sean
@Retro_Sean Жыл бұрын
LOL this is like an infomercial.
@FHL-Devils
@FHL-Devils Жыл бұрын
I have a Nebula subscription, but there are three things that keep me coming back to KZbin: 1) The lack of a viewing queue. Yes, there is 'watch later', but that's not really a queue, and even that is much more clunky than KZbin's 'queue window' 2) No comments section. Yes, moderation is a hellscape of lost revenue, but if I can't engage on one platform, but have the *option* to on another, that's where I'll be 3) Content. I have ~60 channels in my subscriptions, and only ~5 of them are on Nebula. The only Nebula-exclusive content I watch is TL;DR News. So I guess in a way, I'm your perfect customer. I have an account, and plan to remain a subscriber in order to support the applicable creators, but take very little as far as bandwidth and support. Ultimately I'm treating Nebula as a form of Patreon - which I'm sure is both a positive and negative. You're getting the income, but not for what the platform was designed for.
@erics.9814
@erics.9814 Жыл бұрын
Well Mr.... I feel compelled and in the need to show the appreciation I have towards your Wendover Production. I am not a person that writes a lot, but here you go.... I, by no means have the access to Nebula for different reasons, but I can tell you that you have in me a walking billboard that goes around everyone that I have known thru my years of life, recomending your channel. I have seen all your videos since your inseption in KZbin. You have made one old geek very happy. I feel I have grown with you guys, and I also need to thanks all those content creators that you have shone your light to. The hours of learning and entertainment that I have enjoy from you guys are priceless. I sincerely hope the best to you and all your helpers, and I hope your growth does not stops here. A smart guy that knows how to concur with other smart guys to propel smart and enticing video productions! You really do not know how scarce you are. Again keep doing what you doing, I am very proud to have humans like you in this world! Thanks Eric
@0xTJ
@0xTJ Жыл бұрын
At first I was sceptical of how interesting this video would be, but I quickly got really into it! It's very nice to hear a story like this, of passionate people working to make a platform that can support both themselves and other creators, and be a great experience for subscribers!
@saxassoon
@saxassoon Жыл бұрын
I love SFIA! I didn't realize he was the OG promoter, but he was the one that I for sure was willing to support with a Nebula subscription. So excited to see a peak behind the scenes of how it came to be
@siddhantagarwal8553
@siddhantagarwal8553 Жыл бұрын
Hey Same! Been a Nebula sub for around half an year now and I have to say I have to say even though my Jetlag Wednesdays are pretty exciting, I have one important feedback for how it could be better. The exploration part of the platform is just non-existent. I literally never watch something on Nebula unless its a specific creator I know is up there and and mostly if I know their upload schedule (like Jetlag wednesdays!) since its all just chronological on the home screen. If there could be some way I get recommended good videos from creators I don't even watch right now, I know I'd just use it so much more. Thanks for this video was curious about this - a happy sub!
@RangerBloxs
@RangerBloxs 9 ай бұрын
I love educational videos like the creators on KZbin and nebula and I’m definitely getting a subscription for Nebula during the e summer when I get a job!
@5pac3man
@5pac3man 11 ай бұрын
Extremely good content regarding monetization, CAC, etc. Thanks so much for this. It would be great to understand how much revenue or other value comes from selling subscribers personal information and related data to third parties, as described in your privacy policy. That never gets covered.
@fcabralHult08
@fcabralHult08 Жыл бұрын
This is one of the best business case studies I’ve ever seen. And I went through a lot of them getting an MBA. Congratulations and thank you!
@jpfister85
@jpfister85 Жыл бұрын
I also found it fascinating. Sounds like the secret sauce is getting users to choose the discounted annual subscription and using that upfront payout to fund growth without needing investment capital. Now I'm wondering if something similar could work in my own industry....
@hewhohasnoidentity4377
@hewhohasnoidentity4377 Жыл бұрын
​@@jpfister85 I see a potentially fatal flaw to the Nebula model. I came out of the first viewing seeing the flaw. Then I watched a second and third time thinking it through and it is not addressed in the video. The business model is dependent on the lifetime value expectation being accurate.... and stable. Predicting lifetime value when a customer chooses monthly to stay or leave is much easier than an annual subscription. They also have very little data on how the consumer behaves after 2 or 3 years on an annual plan. Or in different economic cycles. Or in times of technology shifts. The annual plan also makes it harder to recover from reputational damage or other shocks that typically occur to a business. If any of the creators has a controversy that is not handled well it can quickly collapse the business. The business is currently considered a success because it front loads the revenue stream to reinvest and pay creators. The risk is still there, they are just delaying and compounding that risk. The final component of the fatal flaw is the size of the target audience. By sponsoring more videos and attracting more customers they are beginning the lifetime customer expectation now instead of over a period of time. The pandemic created an anomaly that skews the data potentially masking this risk. They will not be able to maintain the ad conversion rates and the lifetime customer value over time. They *might* be able to prepare for this by having plans to expand to other genres of creators and executing those plans when the circumstances call for it. That emergency action can only extend the inevitable so far. Nebula looks like a creative business plan that allowed it to outlast it's niche competition. It is still in a market that has a limited potential to last long term. 20 years ago a concept like Nebula would be impossible to start. 20 years from now it seems impossible for the model to remain. This is like Blockbuster offering an annual rental membership. When it crashes it will be rapid.
@iswotisits
@iswotisits Жыл бұрын
Glad this all worked out for you. Am not subscribed to Nebula but I probably will eventually because I love how Nebula-associated channels always seem to have really good subtitles, and that just isn't a priority on most of KZbin. If I could get more well-subtitled videos, that's worth the cost.
@avgeek707
@avgeek707 Жыл бұрын
A lot of videos are subtitled on Nebula - and when you download a video it keeps the captions too. Super nice for that :)
@spencerjames9417
@spencerjames9417 Жыл бұрын
This is a fantastic example of how every business should work under capitalism
@Wasserfeld.
@Wasserfeld. Жыл бұрын
Congrats, man! It's amazing seeing the success of great content creators!
@tntero
@tntero Жыл бұрын
Most of the content I watch is still on youtube, 2/3 years after originally signing up for Nebula/Curiosity Stream. I mostly watch videos from my PS4 and there's no Nebula app and I don't think there will be one, but from day 1, for the low cost I was paying, it just felt worthwhile to support creators that way, so even though I rarely use the platform, I'm happy to keep paying for it to support it because I believe in the idea. Thanks for creating this and I'll see you here or there, or anywhere
@RawStartup
@RawStartup 5 күн бұрын
Incredible Startup story! Well done 🎉
@GabrielEvans
@GabrielEvans Жыл бұрын
Truly humbling to hear you tell this story. I feel like I'm part of the greatest little corner of both of these platforms and I'm excited to see how they both evolve
@Damemer
@Damemer Жыл бұрын
That was inspirational. Well done on building something outstanding. 💚
@L2_Impart
@L2_Impart 10 күн бұрын
Didn't know Erling Haaland had a KZbin channel.
@kolofre
@kolofre Жыл бұрын
The main way i watch youtube is via recommended videos through the algorithm. Nebula doesn't seem to have something like this. When I visit the categories, its just a wall of videos of different quality and different topics. I haven't tried the site yet, but that is something that you need to work on, because as a user, I don't want to have to "work" to find videos I like. That's why KZbin is so great.
@___Me_
@___Me_ Жыл бұрын
Really happy you guys made it, we need more of these bottom-up initiatives! Took the Curiosity str. + Nebula combo a few years ago. CS didn't stick, but Nebula has everything I like in one place. Big shout-out to all the 'Logistics' vids and Mustard's top notch visualisations !
@erikharaldsson2416
@erikharaldsson2416 Жыл бұрын
I still have my bundle deal, but I really only use the Nebula part.
@jasiekzar
@jasiekzar Жыл бұрын
I watched Sam's videos from the very beginning and remember ones with shitty sound and graphics that looked like they were made in paint. They were awesome back then and they are awesome now. Wendover, HAI and extremities are the only channels I watched from the very beggining and never got bored watching. Thank you for making my life richer with this content ❤.
@tsuchan
@tsuchan Жыл бұрын
"shitty sound and graphics that looked like they were made in paint"... I just love this comment. I may not have seen those videos but... I love the comment.
@DutchBarracuda
@DutchBarracuda Жыл бұрын
Long time listener, first time caller, well done Sam and everyone at Nebula.
@cameron_o
@cameron_o Жыл бұрын
Hey I see me at 26:07 ! That jet lag premiere was incredible and I would love to attend more live events in the future! Happy to see all the success you've obtained, you deserve it. Can't wait to see what you continue to make in the future!
@GoldenDragon1999
@GoldenDragon1999 Жыл бұрын
Prior to this video , let alone the title, Ive always doubted Nebula's success. Ive watched through the whole video, and Im mad impressed. This just gets my blood boiling in an inspiring way, it makes me want to go start something up too. I may not be a creator, but Ive recently had enough experience that I also don't seem to belong in "corporate world", I feel like this video has contributed to my path on doing something for myself.
@SidenoteChannel
@SidenoteChannel Жыл бұрын
Wow. What a story! Congratulations to you all.
@VinayShah
@VinayShah Жыл бұрын
The year is 2023 and now the entire video is a Nebula ad
@xenotiic8356
@xenotiic8356 Жыл бұрын
I think part of the reason it succeeded so well was because of the ownership structure: by making it a co-op, it means everyone under Nebula feels reason to care about the future of the company beyond a paycheck, even if their % of ownership/revenue is smaller.
@shahirrahman524
@shahirrahman524 9 күн бұрын
Dude is a part of a 100 million dollar company before he is 30. Amazing Sam. Love all that you do, especially Jet Lag. Can we get more of that, maybe consider having different teams playing? MORE JET LAG PER YEAR PLS
@LargeAaron
@LargeAaron Жыл бұрын
Tbh I first subscribed to nebula to watch jet lag a week early but since then have started watching other content on there that I have really enjoyed. A great platform and am really glad it has worked out well for everyone so far
@iron_nicko
@iron_nicko Жыл бұрын
I swear I'm in love with your business and how you are able to market your product, this just feels not corporate.
@maxwyght1840
@maxwyght1840 Жыл бұрын
Except it totally is, just instead of an ivy league hedge fund manager who was hired out of school by his dad, you get... Well... KZbinrs.
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