Were Drop Bars Faster at the Leadville Trail 100 MTB Race? Race Tactic and Power Analysis

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Dylan Johnson

Dylan Johnson

Күн бұрын

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@jakegleeson1554
@jakegleeson1554 Жыл бұрын
Love the diss at gcn😂
@randyhale4181
@randyhale4181 Жыл бұрын
It will be amazing to see how many drop bars are at the Leadville race next year
@veganpotterthevegan
@veganpotterthevegan Жыл бұрын
5:30 for Keegan and his drop bars next year
@ezramullen4551
@ezramullen4551 Жыл бұрын
Said he tried drops and couldn't get the fit right? Flat bars are better off road anyway clearly
@veganpotterthevegan
@veganpotterthevegan Жыл бұрын
@ezramullen4551 if they're better off road, everyone would be riding flat bars on their gravel bikes if they don't ride much pavement.
@pgn666
@pgn666 11 ай бұрын
@@veganpotterthevegan off road =/= off pavement :) gravel road is a road :) single track is off road.
@veganpotterthevegan
@veganpotterthevegan 11 ай бұрын
@@pgn666 semantics. That's not what this conversation is about.
@Flap_a_jacka
@Flap_a_jacka Жыл бұрын
Dylan, huge thanks and respect for your cutting edge application of the data and the kind education you give to all around you!
@mtbrichard
@mtbrichard Жыл бұрын
A few miles southwest of Leadville, Tomac is sitting in his KZbin chair marveling at this new drop-bar mountain bike idea.
@keirfarnum6811
@keirfarnum6811 3 ай бұрын
My first thought as well. Of course Tomac only did it because his road team had a weird hair up their a$$es about his bike position; even though it compromised his mountain biking and made it more likely he could crash. Drop bars only make sense on some courses where the tech is minimal.
@FrankAllen-fx2hw
@FrankAllen-fx2hw Жыл бұрын
hey!!! where the love? GCN training videos changed my world
@kr7epj4x
@kr7epj4x Жыл бұрын
Running it so close with Logan is great! He is a former US cross champ and spent like 3 years in the world tour!
@Andy-qp7eq
@Andy-qp7eq Жыл бұрын
Love the monstercross look regardless of if it’s faster
@mattkretchmar6374
@mattkretchmar6374 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Dylan. You continue to put out the best performance oriented bike content on the tube.
@georgehugh3455
@georgehugh3455 Жыл бұрын
*_Big Time Congrats, Dylan!!_** You beat Lance's '09 Course Record ride (and his **_"Patented Winning Formula"_** 😂) by over 2 mins!!*
@gregtitus2467
@gregtitus2467 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding race...not only for your performance, but for 1. having the courage to take a risk w/the dropbars & 2. nailing the balance between your self−perceived prerace form and the wattage goal you set for pacing. That seems to be an especially delicate decision, which you nailed, but I can see how easy it would be to miss-calculate. Well done! I enjoy your humility and objective evaluation of your performance. I never feel, when watching your videos, that you're arrogant or ego-driven. Backwards Hat is a very good feature of your videos...keep 'em coming! I enjoy the chuckles. :)
@Utaheyelid
@Utaheyelid Жыл бұрын
Spotted you instantly on Columbine as you passed me with those drop bars. Gave you a shout out coming out of Golden Burro with your takeout. Thanks for the great videos. Your pacing advice worked great for me as well. Kept to my lower power at the start and did a negative split. Such a cool race.
@maritimezombie7684
@maritimezombie7684 Жыл бұрын
Now Leadville is a Monster Gravel race! Love these Drop bar MTB updates!
@whip113
@whip113 Жыл бұрын
Dylan, your Leadville setup finally convinced me to try out a drop bar mountain bike. I'm really liking it for my z2 endurance rides as I can mix in single track and gravel to keep it interesting.
@michaelhotten752
@michaelhotten752 Жыл бұрын
Another amazing job Dylan. You are quickly becoming a pacing guru. I know many Leadville citizen racers are wowed by what Keegan did but for real advice they should be looking at you and your strategy. It's way more applicable to the folks behind the Gold corral. Congrats and looking forward to that Leadville bike video.
@JayRappa
@JayRappa Жыл бұрын
Great job pacing again. I wish I had the same discipline on race day….
@jrbowens
@jrbowens Жыл бұрын
You made us wait a WHOLE WEEK for this recap...worth it. ;-)
@ekimviewmaster5010
@ekimviewmaster5010 Жыл бұрын
ALWAYS a good day, when a new DJ race video breakdown comes out ❤
@djiembefolaDan
@djiembefolaDan Жыл бұрын
Awesome content and forward thinking. Congrats for crushing it with dropbars!
@RoadHardened
@RoadHardened Жыл бұрын
Best cycling content on youtube!! Absolutely love it! Keep it up!
@martinnavarre745
@martinnavarre745 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Dylan for thinking outside the box ... one of your best videos. My only criticism is not using the word monstercross, but perhaps you are just too young - not your fault. Congrats on the excellent result!
@akersj1973
@akersj1973 Жыл бұрын
Dylan, I wanted to let you know that I totally agree with your drop bar MTB setup. As a mid-pack age grouper I found myself at Big Sugar last year (2022) deciding between my Canyon hardtail with 2.2 RaceKings and a Cannondale CAADx with 40mm tires. Due to your recommendations on tires I went with the hardtail and could not have been happier. The suspension fork, larger tires, more relaxed geo all led to an awesome day on the bike. Only drawback was the flat bars for riding position and aero. Since then I have built up a steel hardtail with suspension fork and drop bars. I love this setup. At age 50 and not expecting to ever be in the "winning" group at most gravel events I cannot see any reason to race a different setup. I have the comfort, extra control on descents, traction in chunky or sandy stuff, and the list goes on. I can see the guys at the pro level wanting the lightest and fastest setup but for the majority of riders out there the drop bar MTB is the way to go!! Keep fighting the good fight sir!! 😁
@robbchastain3036
@robbchastain3036 Жыл бұрын
Congrats on running in the Top-20 in the series and thanks for giving us the play-by-play on your success at Leadville. And not to fuss or anything, but aren't there ten climbs on the course, five out and five back? And I really like your bike set-up, particularly getting low and fast with drop bars and a dropper post. And it was a bit cheesy of your competitor to snatch the place ahead of you after not helping, It would seem to be more in the spirit of gravel for a rider in that situation to get to the line like a low rider on Main Street on a Saturday night.
@ukestjohn
@ukestjohn Жыл бұрын
John Tomac lives!!
@georgehugh3455
@georgehugh3455 Жыл бұрын
*Shout out to Kerry Werner!* (local rider some time ago...)
@adamgurule1458
@adamgurule1458 Жыл бұрын
Super cool Dylan! Thanks for sharing!
@USMC7178
@USMC7178 Жыл бұрын
Very entertaining Dylan!
@fgiraffe8751
@fgiraffe8751 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video, congrats on the fantastic ride. Of course "everyone" will probably focus on your use of drop bars which is somewhat unique for your skill set. But your discipline to stick to your pacing strategy is something any old fool could implement and have a huge positive impact on their day. Love your videos keep it up and good luck with the rest of your season.
@becausewin
@becausewin Жыл бұрын
dude i love your race analysis
@OGillo2001
@OGillo2001 Жыл бұрын
Sterling work and great breakdown. Hoping you can gain a few notches in the last few for the LGP. Cheers, Rory
@DonnyDonnMendoza
@DonnyDonnMendoza Жыл бұрын
Love the video & the (not so) random pot shots taken at the big guns
@anthonyharris483
@anthonyharris483 Жыл бұрын
I converted three of my mountain bikes to drop bar and love it.
@anthonyharris483
@anthonyharris483 Жыл бұрын
​@user-ve8oh7jd2fWhatever smart ass
@TheEquineImage
@TheEquineImage Жыл бұрын
Great content as always on my favorite cycling YT channel.
@brewster84067
@brewster84067 Жыл бұрын
Great breakdown Dylan. Congrats on the spectacular race. Though I'm nowhere near your numbers, the pacing lessons you hammered home is something that I certainly can learn from. Keep the great videos coming!
@allrounderbicycle7193
@allrounderbicycle7193 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this discussion forever. I tend to drop bar everything I have just cause I like the way they feel. I don’t race so don’t need to be the fastest through the switchbacks, but like to ride all day. I’ve been wondering what the threshold is to where drop bars become advantageous to MTB racers. Great video!
@Jazzysoda
@Jazzysoda Жыл бұрын
Love the Segment backwards cap bit lol. Well done man! Field is getting seriously intense for sure......just bonkers!
@danreynolds1142
@danreynolds1142 Жыл бұрын
Badass, great video too!
@mikeherring6960
@mikeherring6960 Жыл бұрын
Great race recap. I love the channel and your content. Keep up the good work.
@davidfidler6449
@davidfidler6449 Жыл бұрын
The lower temperature this year played a big role in the faster times. Great effort!
@MarlowWhere
@MarlowWhere Жыл бұрын
​@@BGRANT777Xit was in 40s in Leadville that morning.
@davidspagnolo4870
@davidspagnolo4870 Жыл бұрын
​@@BGRANT777Xare you in Leadville? Is it still August 12? Because if either of those things aren't the case it doesn't really matter what the temperature is where you are, because we're talking about the temperature in Leadville on August 12th, not "the general climate conditions at whatever random place BGRANT777X is"
@matismud
@matismud Жыл бұрын
Dylan, you are my hero🥇
@jeffreykluge401
@jeffreykluge401 Жыл бұрын
Nice ride, Dylan! I really appreciate your videos. So many good digs. :)
@alolympic
@alolympic Жыл бұрын
Another great video by providing in depth insights. But more importantly, great performance. Great experiment. Your results are great. And damn, the competition has got insane. I’d love you to do a deep dive into how and why the off road US racing scene has come to dominate and brought in so much pro talent. Is road racing dead forever?
@michaelstoecker4178
@michaelstoecker4178 Жыл бұрын
Love your race reports!
@alainpfammatter8224
@alainpfammatter8224 Жыл бұрын
Congrats for this excellent result👏
@ChrisWagner-bh3vn
@ChrisWagner-bh3vn Жыл бұрын
I predict that at Sea Otter next year, Canyon,Specialized,Factor, etc..will all release a new "hybrid"MT/Gravel Bike with drop bars and Gravel tires. Or not.
@lechprotean
@lechprotean Жыл бұрын
the correct and catchy name IMO is monster-gravel and I'm drifting towards such setup for my bike adventures where I don't know if I end up on fine fine gravel or a rough patch of desert or a gnarly singletrack. Which is almost never, but still.
@Emolokz
@Emolokz Жыл бұрын
@@lechprotean isn't it monstercross?
@richeeg3271
@richeeg3271 Жыл бұрын
Something like that kinda already exist. Look up Salsa Cutthroat, it's a drop bar bike that can fit 2,25" tyres. It's been specifically designed for the tour devide bikepacking event
@Emolokz
@Emolokz Жыл бұрын
@@richeeg3271 insanely overpriced, honestly. We just need more 12x148 rear dropout frames rather than 12x142 frames for gravel imho. That makes them much better for being the best of both worlds.
@kokonanana1
@kokonanana1 Жыл бұрын
750B tires? See: The Ride with Ben Delaney
@richardvaughn168
@richardvaughn168 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations on a great race. Outstanding discipline in following your race plan.
@kellyperkins4139
@kellyperkins4139 Жыл бұрын
Grats! Nice result and analysis, so hard to be disciplined enough to pace as you did.
@peterknight7880
@peterknight7880 Жыл бұрын
Another very well executed race. Kudos dude. 👍
@1cb2bc
@1cb2bc Жыл бұрын
unusually good race recap / analysis. great videos - thanks dj
@jwfriar
@jwfriar Жыл бұрын
Great video as always - enjoyed going in the journey with you. Great finish as well
@PlumpyDelicioso
@PlumpyDelicioso Жыл бұрын
Great info and content. Love watching this stuff. Congrats of the smart pacing and riding! You killed it
@robrigg8045
@robrigg8045 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the altitude power adjustment recommendations in the past couple vids. Going to implement a ceiling for BWR Utah this weekend since I'm arriving from sea level, along with Pathfinder Pro 47s since it's 92% Unroad. Really appreciate all the marginal and significant gains info!
@kazzz6666
@kazzz6666 Жыл бұрын
What an amazing job on the bike and a perfect one on the video as well. Must take some time to build such videos but they're getting better and better like your power :-D Best recap's out there!
@christoflorenz9059
@christoflorenz9059 Жыл бұрын
brutal. much respect!
@tomhenry3062
@tomhenry3062 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely love your content, lad and these race breakdowns are awesome 👍
@Gravelbikepacking
@Gravelbikepacking Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great content. Also great to hear about a few Aussies I have raced against mentioned in Brendan and Tasman (further back in the field though 😂)
@jamest2660
@jamest2660 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I am always so amazed with how in depth your data analysis is and how you use that data to continue to prepare for future races. Good luck in final series races!
@stevenagy7152
@stevenagy7152 Жыл бұрын
BHD, “You should use the word pacing more frequently.”, seriously really good video and love the forward hat thinking in set up.
@markokitzing4291
@markokitzing4291 Жыл бұрын
Awesome review! And congrats for this great result!
@LexD-89
@LexD-89 Жыл бұрын
BHD is and will always be my spirit animal 🤣😆
@MaxwellPowers666
@MaxwellPowers666 Жыл бұрын
Fun to watch you progress
@jammankutch9385
@jammankutch9385 Жыл бұрын
It’s all about being comfortable, that’s the most important “time factor” here.
@solidstream13
@solidstream13 Жыл бұрын
Awesome job. Amazing time. I’d love to see your power in Watts per kilo to be more relatable.
@Jinedan
@Jinedan Жыл бұрын
Awesome job and way to innovate! Love your channel.
@bikeski970
@bikeski970 Жыл бұрын
he didn't innovate it. he copied it from tour divide riders.
@Ghostina1
@Ghostina1 Жыл бұрын
Love that GCN bit!!!
@PiquePictures
@PiquePictures Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Well done!👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@PiquePictures
@PiquePictures Жыл бұрын
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@tomvidler781
@tomvidler781 Жыл бұрын
Good to see the Aussies hitting it out over there 🦘
@stephenkohler3472
@stephenkohler3472 Жыл бұрын
Drop-country... the hot new category of mountain bikes.
@petenovak131
@petenovak131 Жыл бұрын
Good content my man. appreciate the work you put in.
@unbridlededification
@unbridlededification Жыл бұрын
Solid gcn burn
@ticklefritz5406
@ticklefritz5406 Жыл бұрын
Nice work Dylan!
@folkabuss
@folkabuss Жыл бұрын
Would be great to see how your training for this season looked like. Thanks for the awesome vids.
@mo-215
@mo-215 Жыл бұрын
BHD cameo always good. And great videos.
@grzegorzlabencki2970
@grzegorzlabencki2970 Жыл бұрын
Good content. Thank you.
@gabeszilagyi254
@gabeszilagyi254 Жыл бұрын
Another good one!
@kivriel2660
@kivriel2660 Жыл бұрын
Great video, great content!
@qzrnuiqntp
@qzrnuiqntp Жыл бұрын
Congrats! Great race, big achievement! You are a pretty good athlete and a clever man.
@mo-215
@mo-215 Жыл бұрын
6 to 7 hours??? I'd be lucky to finish the thing. Total machine, Dylan
@marcfarrelly5944
@marcfarrelly5944 Жыл бұрын
I am pro drop bar all the time, plenty of MTB courses I have done well on a CX bike
@Imagine2035
@Imagine2035 Жыл бұрын
Well done! Worthy challengers like Logan or GCN consistently push to excel and innovate, driving to reach new heights and deliver even better results.
@Imagine2035
@Imagine2035 Жыл бұрын
you were faster than Logan?
@robertcatuara5118
@robertcatuara5118 Жыл бұрын
Shots fired!! GCN look out. I like GCN for what they are. Just as I watch you. Completely different content but enjoyed just the same.
@lexington476
@lexington476 Жыл бұрын
Same.
@avocette
@avocette Жыл бұрын
Dylan uses Plotaroute... Huge fan of the platform in terms of cataloguing bike routes especially on rural areas ❤❤
@Marco-wx6hs
@Marco-wx6hs Жыл бұрын
Cool video! Have you considered the Surly corner bar option?
@Aholeintheozone
@Aholeintheozone Жыл бұрын
Beast!
@Emolokz
@Emolokz Жыл бұрын
Monstercross bikes freaking rock, honestly. Drop bar mtb's have always seemed pretty radical to me. If only there was some way to revolutionize the drop bar cockpit to be "almost" as controllable as the flat bar cockpit.
@bobfoster687
@bobfoster687 Жыл бұрын
Can you say John Tomac?
@Shawn-in-da-Canyon
@Shawn-in-da-Canyon 5 ай бұрын
Thank you! They need to make the frames more like trail bike MTB frames, stems shorter, head tubes slacker and seat tube steeper, and adjust the frame length for drop bars.
@PuffinPass
@PuffinPass Жыл бұрын
I do dropbarmtb and on my local trails I get told it just won't work or that it will be slower on trail. I also ended up in a head to head for KOM on several of the downhill singletrack runs done by flatbars and still had room to improve easily. In some cases dropbars are the answer, there are some drawbacks if you are doing jumps but if it is an XC style race then there probably isn't any real reason not to. Like you said though it does take some time to get comfortable being pitched that far forward and riding the drops in technical sections, but once you do get comfortable it is a lot of fun and does have some notable advantages. If you are in a UCI race though they are banned if the race is considered a MTB class event.
@Mas421
@Mas421 Жыл бұрын
so we need more subcategories
@PuffinPass
@PuffinPass Жыл бұрын
@@Mas421 bound to happen whether we need them or not. Look at how specific music genres have become with their sub categories
@stevenporter9484
@stevenporter9484 Жыл бұрын
Saw you briefly at Steamboat this past weekend. Cheers nicely done.
@iancoleman4535
@iancoleman4535 Жыл бұрын
Holy sh*t: 6:26:45! Nice ride
@tyler.london
@tyler.london Жыл бұрын
Full on John Tomac build!
@kirkkettlebell6409
@kirkkettlebell6409 Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Been following you since you started..best content on KZbin..how were the race kings? Are they durable?
@adamgaisser1875
@adamgaisser1875 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Would love to know what and how you eat / drink during a race like this.
@JackMott
@JackMott Жыл бұрын
I would try narrow MTB bars with aero shaped grips and shorty tt bars
@pcro860
@pcro860 Жыл бұрын
Crushed it Dylan. Curious if you factor weather conditions into pacing and time comparisons? There was a study on Western States that showed temperature was the best predictor of winning time.
@avocette
@avocette Жыл бұрын
I wonder how much versatility would be added if you had an alt-bar-like cockpit setup comprising of flatbars with dropbar extensions clamped at a preferred width. (ofc, if such is allowed in that race)
@hugobci
@hugobci Жыл бұрын
More than bike setup, pacing strategy is the clever move for everything in the biking, including optimizing fun, wich is commonly understimated even by leisure bikers
@nihilisticfella
@nihilisticfella Жыл бұрын
no
@GerritD
@GerritD Жыл бұрын
Watch Specialized come out with a dropbar 100mm travel mountain bike within a year. They'll call it the Leadville and it will MSRP for $6,500
@Mas421
@Mas421 Жыл бұрын
Yes, and all the gravelbike-enthusiast will sell their bikes to follow the new hype
@SamuelBlackMetalRider
@SamuelBlackMetalRider Жыл бұрын
Go Dylan
@leonschumann2361
@leonschumann2361 Жыл бұрын
love the GCN dig
@AM-bl2cs
@AM-bl2cs Жыл бұрын
Gravel bike with front suspension fork like the Revolt X or Canyon Grizl, or something racier like the endurace but again with a front sus 40mm fork, with a chunk gravel tyre on front and a fast roller on the rear would be ideal. Just run tubes with stans and high PSI and flats wont be an issue.
@ijs14
@ijs14 Жыл бұрын
Hilarious shade thrown at gcn. Should have been backwards hat Dylan I think lol
@ccamire
@ccamire Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing the whole race details. Great results in any case. You speak a lot about bike set up and power but nutrition strategy could also been an important variable. I am sure you looked at it but is there something else you could have tweaked. Still not an easy race by any standard
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