Werewolves: Halloween's Hair-Raising, Furry Monsters

[@Izelikestea]

wolfwalkers is, to me, the definitive werewolf film. its not overly dark, but it is unique in that it portrays werewolves as actual pack animals who need company, and family. but by their very nature, are excluded from the society that is supposed to provide it. it has other themes as well, like nature vs nurture, fear as a means of control, etc. and is overall just a gorgeous thing to watch.

[@STARS_SHIMMERS]

This!!

[@Broomer52]

It honestly runs very close to “canonical” werewolves and I mean canon in the biblical sense. It’s a long and fun story but the short version is the culturally the Celts did not fear wolves like other people did so they didn’t hold a stigma of them. However in the eyes of Foreign Christians who recently took the area they did not share the sentiment and saw Wolves as evil creatures. Celts also created the idea of Werewolves and for them they were protectors of humanity from witches and evil creatures. Given previous bias I stated the powers that be thought this absolutely ridiculous and beyond the idea of wolves being protectors of man the very idea of turning into an animal was seen as not possible. God made man in his image, why would God allow people to turn into animals? Werewolves bounced from being just a bunch of nonsense to heresy and back again. In General it was seen as wacky nonsense in much the same way Christians thought Witchcraft was a bunch of nonsense as Demons can’t grant people powers that power belongs to god. But that got people thinking “if the celts insist Werewolves are protectors of humanity and only God can give people powers, wouldn’t that mean Werewolves are technically possible?” Which was a difficult thing to deny and eventually the Religious authorities relented on the idea of Werewolves saying they could potentially exist but they would obviously be benevolent and good beings blessed by god.

[@ianmoore7246]

​@@Broomer52also consider the imperialism of Continental Europe and the need to create a savage and vile outgroup that needs to be tamed. This juxtaposition of views between the Celts and the colonizers about werewolves/wolfs also serves as, in the colonizers mind, a reason to oppress the "strange savages". The entire werewolf existence is totally reliant upon this in my understanding of the creature. It reminds me of the Shetlandic wolver, which is essentially a protector of the elderly and widowed that were prevalent in that quasi socialist matrifocal society, and the colonizer's focus on this Celtic society being horrible backwoods sex crazed savages.

[@thepokepoet9482]

I ADORE Wolfwalkers!!!!!

[@maeve615]

Wolfwalkers is such a great flick.

[@rodrigoreis14dt]

Even though we don't have wolves in Brazil, the werewolf is a folkloric character here. However, according to folklore tradition, its anthropomorphic appearance is more related to pigs and dogs and usually looks like a sick and suffering being. Feeding mainly on leftovers and carrion.

[@rodrigoreis14dt]

With the popularization of the werewolf in films, this representation became less and less known

[@rodrigoreis14dt]

According to Brazilian folklore, a boy is destined to become a werewolf when he is the seventh child of a couple who previously had only daughters. Turning into Friday nights.

[@booba-fan]

@@rodrigoreis14dt eu achava q era o décimo terceiro mas 7 faz mas sentido pq ja é mta criança pra fazer

[@editorahumanas5345]

Sim, e geralmente dizem que a maldição chegou com os portugueses ​@@rodrigoreis14dt

[@editorahumanas5345]

É verdade, eh muito comum em cidades pequenas do interior terem algum lobisomem, que no fim, geralmente, são pessoas pobres, com algum debilidade física ou mental...na minha cidade, era o Seu Ademar, que era o bêbado da cidade e tinha uma enfermidade de pele...com isso + o problema da bebida, ele ganhou o estigma de ser um lobisomem

[@Urushi12kitty]

as a werewolf enthusiast i screamed when i saw this. I've been writing a werewolf novel in my head for like 5 years, i wish i knew you cuz id love to just talk about werewolves with people lol. I watched Big Wolf On Campus when I was like 8 and have been obsessed with werewolves ever since.

[@MarenWW]

I've actually been working on a Werewolf novel for the past few years. Can't wait to see what ideas you present here!

[@randomgruntgaming6520]

I have never noticed that... Well we don't have THE werewolf like we have Dracula who is THE vampire. Now that's something really good to point out!

[@supernerd5781]

The Wolf Man is the closest thing, but unlike Dracula he's far too limited, it's literally just the old movies, a couple of novels, an Alvin and the Chipmunks movie and two reboots. Compare that to Dracula, there's the novel, Nosferatu, Lagosi, Lee, Oldman, Castlevania (which due to a reboot even has two distinct versions of the character), Hellsing, Renfield and so on and so forth. Larry in comparison hasn't gotten to leave as much of a mark beyond his first outing.

[@A6by]

As a lifelong LGBT furry, I've always found the traditional angle on the werewolf to be silly and illogical. Turning into a wolf would just be rad as fuck, there is no negative way to spin it that makes any kind of sense to me. It's the ultimate liberation, sexually, from humanity, from social rules, etc. But, it kind of makes sense: They supposedly represent the horror of becoming an outsider, but we're *already* outsiders who *like* being outsiders. Where a normal person sees a tragedy in losing their insider status, I can't see anything but freedom.

[@wethefreeproductions]

I mean it’s usually along the lines of “oh no I disemboweled my fiance.”

[@Stuck_In_Liminality]

I think another reason is that wolves are naturally dangerous animals. So if your mind went into same mental state as one you'd probably be dangerous to other people. That's usually why it's considered a negative to most people. It's the fear of being reduced to a wild animal that only has the base instincts and harming the people you love in the process. Just my take though, I can definitely see your point.

[@editorahumanas5345]

I think that's the point: by night your free and can do whatever you want, but by the next day, you "human form" have to deal with the consequences... the way you say it, usually, is what an "evil" werewolf thinks, losing its human morally

[@animeotaku307]

I read “Such Sharp Teeth” by Rachel Harrison and what struck me the most was that, while it wasn’t outwardly scary beyond how visceral the transformation sequences were written (to anyone writing a werewolf book: read this one, even if it’s just for these scenes), was that it’s horror was of the more subtle variety. The horror of a major disruption in your life that drastically changes it and upends any plans you made. The book is mainly about the protagonist figuring out how to deal with her newfound lycanthropy while her twin sister is going through a pregnancy that she reveals to have her own misgivings and fears about. It’s not as in your face as most horror tends to be, but bringing up that feeling made me think about what would happen if I had a major accident that left me with a condition I would have to live with the rest of my life. And how terrifying it would be in the beginning, looking at the path I thought I would be going down and finding it so fundamentally changed. Sure, it would hopefully get better with adjustments and healing. But that initial moment is still very scary. That’s what the book ends up being about; a young woman who just got her life upended and must learn how to make room for this new change.

[@woekittenvideos7534]

I play Dungeons and Dragons with a couple groups of people, and one of my favorite character concepts that I came up with is a werewolf barbarian. She developed her barbarian rage hoping that if she let the beast out as a human, she'd have more control when the full moon came around. I was leaving it up to the DM to determine how well it actually worked. Unfortunately, that campaign never actually started.

[@vanstroud2077]

Since you brought up Werewolf: The Apocalypse, I implore you to check out Werewolf: the Essentials. It's an independent project that aims to tackle some of the challenging cultural implications the original framework puts forth, while also making it more accessible to newcomers! 52:06

[@sciencey2858]

There is also Werewolf: The Forsaken

[@JacksonThatcher-q5d]

My first experience with werewolves and one of my earliest experiences with fantasy was when I read the book Wereworld Rise of Wolf. The premise is that in this world, each person of noble blood turns into an animal that is equal to their rank in the noble hierarchy, so the king turns into a lion and a noble with very little power turns into an otter, and the main character is a werewolf and a descendent of the previous king that was usurped by the lion king. It's not a masterpiece but the tone is gritty and each character has unique motivations and personalities even though there are a lot of characters in the book. I recommend it.

[@Rozilla]

47:22 So Terry Pratchett's werewolves are SUPER interesting and is kind of this! There are different types, they have support groups, they have history with vampires- he never intends metaphors but readers often read into them. His most prominent one is Angua, who turns into a wolf and can mostly control it, but uses her keen sense of smell to aid her detective work as a copper. Her family are fascist werewolf cult that she ran away from- they're very angry at her for a lot of reasons, but not eating people and dating a human is at the top of their list.

[@deathwish-fs1ib]

They're also undead but by using the definition in that if you stab them they don't die so they're un-dead.

[@ErebusHellhound]

I'm more into vampires when it comes to their folklores and legends more than medias. The stories of werewolves also fascinate me as well such as the Beast of Gevaudan. You guys should cover up some vampire tales such as Peter Plogojowits and Mercy Brown.

[@zooemperor3954]

I would totally watch that!

[@friendlycatwife]

Thanks again for having me on! I had a great time!! AWOOOOOOO!!!

[@agramuglia]

ANYTIME!

[@thewingedporpoise]

I really was glad for your contributions to the video, finding them interesting and fascinating. They added a good roundness to the conversation. And when you mentioned perhaps something being a fetish I went "oh! so she doesn't know" but suffice it to say, it is A Thing.

[@friendlycatwife]

@@thewingedporpoise awwwwww thank you! I really appreciate that! And yes lol I assume everything is a fetish and popular somewhere out there 😅

[@jennyfeare1702]

It's nice there's a lil surge of werewolf media as of late and hope there's no sign of stopping, especially if The Howling Netflix remake and that reboot series of Ginger Snaps are still cooking in the media oven, we're *starved* of such stuff! :3

[@jdellabeat6245]

Definitely with you on more 'were' adjacent creatures. With the werewolves and others of its same archetype, I always found it interesting that we, as a collective, have a fascination either associating or conceding with animals. It's not something like Hulk or Titans from Attack on Titans, in which it's just a humanoid pseudo approximation of the person it has transformed into.

[@jtlego1]

I think thats why I like the Fera in Werewolf: The Apocalypse more than the Werewolves/Garou. You have absolutely buckwild shit like the Werelizards that can tap into DNA memory to become dinosaurs, Were-spiders that give the Vampires/Kindred a run for their money with how they need blood, Were-Sharks that make a sport out of clowning on people who pollute the sea, Were-Crows that are messengers between the other Shapechanger species, etc

[@jdellabeat6245]

@@jtlego1 That's so interesting to hear about, especially the 'Were-Shark' example you used in how this sect of were-creature has an extracurricular activity that is tailored by the unique perspective and environment they [Were-Sharks] occupy.

[@benjaminhunt5916]

The context of the "Wolfman" is interesting...Hitler and the Nazis used a lot of wolf imagery (ie the "wolf pack" of U-boats...apparently "The Three Little Pigs" was one of Hitler's favorite Disney cartoons. While long after the movie, in 1945 the Nazis had a plan for resistence/guerrilla group called "Werwolf" to basically continue fighting in Allied occupied Germany)...so the idea of a wolf chasing down and killing a victim identified by a star is very interesting...

[@DarthTingleBinks]

I'd say Werewolf by Night is the Dracula of Werewolves. Of course I'm a biased little Marvel fan, but I think Jack Russel is ABSOLUTELY the quintessential Werewolf character. Michael Giacchinno's holiday special was alright, but it got mixed up in introducing so many aspects of the supernatural world of Marvel, and it felt far too short to really make the characters all that impactful. But the character himself is perfect. Though I didn't quite like the Werewolf design in the special. I hope Marvel makes the design progressively become more wolf-like and animalistic over time to increase the drama of Jack's existence as his alter ego becomes more and more uncontrollable, and also to make the design better.

[@dinadina2000]

The comic? Yes! The show not really

[@DarthTingleBinks]

@dinadina2000 What show? He only has a Halloween special.

[@dinadina2000]

Yeah sorry every MCU appearance is either movie or show to me. Yeah the special was… I love Jack so much and the allegory of otherness and how clashes with his very obvious priveledge and how it’s allegorical to hereditary mental illness one moment, xenophobia the next (especially the episodes where he tries to reconnect with his transylvanian roots or when he teams up with Tigra and the Cat People). I love how half the villians are stock monsters but the others are so off the wall, Dr.Glitternight Moon Knight, the hangman and all the demons were so unique But also I love how tragic a lot of those villains are. Some of them just wanted to save people or be loved or be respected or understand the darkhold. Hell Moon knight redeems himself after fighting Jack and becomes a superhero. My one critique is that some of fights get repetitive but otherwise the tragic monster of the week a plot with a family drama b plot really sells why Stan Lee jokingly called werewolf by night “if spiderman had been bitten by a werewolf instead”

[@MarenWW]

Now that I've seen the video, I'm SUPER pleased my novel is going in directions completely left unmentioned in this video. I'm trying not to fall into the belief that I'm doing something completely new with Werewolves in my novel, but I'm glad that what I am doing is rare enough that it should feel fresh.

[@mudbucket1354]

to me, ginger snaps will forever be the best werewolf movie. ever. nothing will ever top it. the first and second are so dear to me. i've had many conversations with people who have worked and made the film. truly ahead of its time

[@MarioUcomics]

I only want my Werewolves to be savage fighters like Sabrewolf in Killer Insinct or Jon Talbain in Darkstalkers

[@n0etic_f0x]

I mean one of the best things is that you can get a twink who can turn into a big dommy wolf man. I can’t be the only one who thinks this is a good thing. I am not even entertaining it in jest. Like… come on.

[@ZaiDrizzleDrop]

Oh man I really found the idea of "Just letting go, and maybe it being a good thing" very interesting, because we do tend to restrain ourselves due to the society we were born in, putting away our own desires to make others comfortable, even if they are objectively harmless towards others. Would you be interested in doing a Darkstalkers video concerning Lilith? I find her very interesting, and her dynamic with Morrigan trying to be her own person.

[@matthemming9105]

Love werewolves, and really enjoyed this video. I have to admit, i didnt realize that Company of Wolves is directly parodied in a Halloween episode of Community, to excellent effect.

[@thetribunaloftheimaginatio5247]

Don't look at me... I like "Altered Beast," "Castlevania" and that one Minerva Mink episode of "Animaniacs."

[@Imajestyy]

Me and my sister used to pray to become werewolves lol.

[@FRADAVE02]

I've gotta say, Cat People is a favorite of mine.....both the original and the 1980's remake. The latter's use of the leopard curso for sexual desire is effective!

[@zooemperor3954]

I’d like to see a video on vampires honestly. But the stories of werewolves are quite fascinating to be honest, particularly with some real life examples like the Beast of Gevaudan.

[@dunes8817]

I wish there had been a werewolf answer to Bloodrayne (the games, not the movie).

[@Handmade_Heaven]

Great video! A more recent depiction I really enjoyed was in the Netflix show "Wednesday." They're a clique in the school and the one we follow, Enid, is a late bloomer who can't transform yet. It's a simple but cute puberty metaphor 🐺

[@kerricaine]

reverse werewolf movie where on a full moon, a wolf turns into a humanoid form and hunts the rest of the members of his pack

[@kaelang12]

oh that's just a wolfwere. they're a staple in the Ravenloft universe

[@36inc]

I was always more into witches cause of course im a queer woman it comes with the territory; but the werewolf works alot like my favorite monster; frankensteins monster. I adore the misunderstood human monster concept. it's so easy to imagine around.

[@brianlazarow2206]

I've actually been working on a high fantasy story/world featuring werebeasts and vampires and this definitely helped me focus some of my ideas by getting me to think about what each represents in comparison to the other and how the fantasies of each differ.

[@sternritternovad]

I can't even remember the first Werewolf content I saw, but I've been consuming any I can get my hands on. Werewolf by Night, Love Death and Robots, Ginger Snaps, Teen Wolf the series, Van Hellsing, Underworld, Benicio Del Toro WolfMan, that said best transformations go to Love Death and Robots, The WolfMan Benicio Del Toro, and Van Hellsing they make the transformation look as painful as it is liberating.(honorable mention Silver Bullet)

[@joepa9431]

There actually is, in my opinion, a modern masterwork of literary werewolf lore. Glen Duncan’s The Last Werewolf trilogy. The third book isn’t exactly my favorite but the first two are near perfect works. Highly recommended.

[@GrandArchPriestOfTheAlgorithm]

You're talking about werewolfs but when you gone talk about whowolfs?

[@Ari-moth]

This comment is whenwolf erasure

[@audreyharris7643]

What about why wolves?

[@matthemming9105]

Whatwolves have entered the chat, and feel ignored

[@ArendAlphaEagle]

Howwolves tho

[@lossolot1644]

​@@ArendAlphaEagle Yeah, Howolves are Notwolves?

[@chrispytheBlindSocialist]

I thought of writing something when I went blind & found myself w/ a lot of free time on my hands not being able to work. I did write a few short things I mostly kept to myself. I'm just not confident in my abilities. In fact, I don't believe I have any real ability at all, so I didn't go any further. Then I got into vocational rehab & went into a residential blind training program for 10 months. I found an area I'm excited about getting involved in; activism & advocacy. Now I don't have as much free time as I did, but I still feel an itch to write. If I had any confidence in an ability to write something any good that people would actually like to read, I would be all over this. Werewolves have fasinated me for a long time. I always thought they were cooler than vampires. They are what drew me to Underworld. One thing I keep thinking back to since going blind is Interview with a Vampire. I remember the scene Louis & Lestat turn Claudia. How sick she was , but was cured & healed by being turned. If vampirism can do that, why not lycanthropy? What if becoming a werewolf cured my diabetes & other health problems that come with it? What if becoming a werewolf gave me my sight & amputated big tow back? What if it made me whole again? What if it also made me looked jacked like Channing Tatum or some heart throb pro-wrestler, too? Helllooo, ladies... I'm not sure what I would want my weres to represent. I might want to include a combination of things rather than any one. I would want my weres to be like D&D weres. They have a human form, a hybrid form, & a complete transformation form. Meaning they turn into a wolf. I would want to somehow include other weres like bears, rats, ravens, & others. Lions. I would want to include a Ron Perlman Beast-like character. I want my weres to be sexy, but not in the same way as vamps; which are a seductive kind of sexy. I want to play on that jacked brute image. Appeal to people that want that strong, confident, rearrange your guts quality in their fantasy lovers. So, I don't think I can cut any romance or eroticism completely out, but there are definitely things I don't want in my story at all. A lot of the paranormal romance involving werewolves I have read involve pack groups or societies w/ clear alpha leaders. A lot of them have further classifications like betas, deltas, & gammas. Since actual packs do not have this, I don't want it. They often include a moon goddess' which on its own isn't really terrible, but along w/ that godess they have fated mates. They find their mates at a certain age, by coming into physical contact, or both, Their mates are often identified by scent, & it always semms to be peaches & creame or chocolate mint. This takes a lot of agency & choice out of the situation. It doesn't sound romantic to me. It's better when it's something that builds over time. Ultimately I would hope my story does gives werewolves their Dracula. Their Vampire Chronicles. ...But I doubt I could write my way out of a paper bag. This comment is already going a bit long, but I wanted to touch on the werewolf mythos a bit. I also prefer the more beastly anthropomorphized version. In terms of horror, it seems scarier. It's also just all around cooler. What I have learnd; tho, is that most of the early legends - at least in Western Europe - were of people transforming completely into wolves. Sometimes they still had human eyes, but otherwise wolves. Another thing I learned about several years ago was St Christopher. When I watched The Order on Netflix, I wondered why the show's werewolves were called the Knights of St Christopher. I found that in Eastern Europe, St Christopher is sometimes depicted as having the head of a dog. Some people link the origins of werewolf myths to this Orthodox Christian figure. They draw further links to legens of cynocephali, societies of people w/ the heads of dogs. A couple or a few European monks wrote about these cynocephali. It's kind of interesting how in Western Europe, werewolves became associated w/ witchcraft & Satanism. I also wanted to know if Ant has evefr seen the animated film Wolfwalkers. It features the voice of Sean Bean. It's part of a loose trilogy that begins w/ The Secret of Kells.

[@maeve615]

49:00 in the stories I've written, it is a semi-metaphor for rejecting the artifice of consumerist society, to live in a balance within nature, to live as you need, not as you're conned and coerced into by others trying to control you. The werewolves live in small - medium communities that function like extended families or found family. A rejection of modern society that pushes people into only looking out for themselves, or forming exacerbating hierarchies that are a detriment to group. The one 'lone wolf' character I started writing for a D&D campaign is only a 'lone wolf' because where she hide during the Silver Purge/genocide became unsafe. She stuck with no longer having a safe place to live, but if she goes to join the survivors in the safe territory that means very likely finding out conclusively her parents died fighting against the genocide. She *assumes* they're dead because they never returned for her after the 'official' end of the Silver Purge, but until she knows for certain... there's still that hope to cling to that she's wrong and they. She embraces her lycanthrope, cherishes it even, but she can't be open about it as there are still zealots of The Silver Flame that will kill her on sight.

[@Nemo12417]

When my group finishes our current D&D campaign, I'll be DMing Curse of Strahd, and I've been making changes to the werewolf statblock to make them more interesting. I've also changed up some of the mechanics for how one gets turned into a werewolf, as well as how one cures oneself.

[@Nemo12417]

Barovian werewolves, at least in my campaign, can be made either in utero, via a relatively simple ritual performed beneath the light of the full moon, or by being bitten by Kiril. Kiril is a unique werewolf who turns Large sized in his beast/hybrid shape and had his powers enhanced by a vestige in the Amber Temple. Remove Curse no longer ends lycanthropy. Instead, it merely suppresses it for 24 hours. To end the condition, one must acquire certain components and then upcast Remove Curse as the full moon rises. Upcasting even further will allow one to cure a naturalborn werewolf. The material components are either an alchemic mixture that would take some downtime to formulate, or the Heart Stone of a night hag.

[@intergalactic92]

I do remember being obsessed with werewolves to the point I even pretended to certain people at school that I would wake in on the night of the full moon and roam the streets as a werewolf (and got bullied by others when this inevitably spread). At the time the idea of the transformation was inherently cool, which I would attribute to my love of the animorph book series which was big at the time. I’m slightly surprised there was no mention of the Amanda Seyfried Red Riding Hood. This one turns the wolf into a werewolf and there is a bit of a murder mystery element to it with you questioning who is the wolf and who can you really trust, because even the normal humans have darkness in them and arguably are even more despicable than the wolf at the end of the day.

[@kamikage9420]

Shoutout to the 2001 Aussie puppet-based kids show "Li'l Horrors", where all the characters are based on classic Universal style horror movie monsters. The werewolf character is a girl called "Claudia Howell", a brash, outgoing, tomboyish werewolf who exists purely in a "wolfman" style form and wears denim overalls and a cute bow. She revels in her power and identity as a werewolf but hates being called a dog, usually plays the "straight man" in a lot of the comedic situations the cast find themselves in, and her greatest fear is that the full moon will turn her into a human girl. As an enby trans gal I'm not gonna lie, I love her a lot and she was totally my gender goals as a 5 year old.

[@nkosig4995]

what about more fantasy werewolfs like in elder scrolls and how they relate to dieties like hiricine

[@SS-xr7jf]

This is an interesting video but Jesus Christ the number of ads I got on it made it near impossible to finish

[@Enshohma]

An hour long video on Werewolves... OKAY, you're channel was already fun to visit but this episode made me a new subscriber! If you ever do a giant monsters / kaiju video in a similar manner (Why Are Kaiju Appealing?), let me know as I might be able to assist.

[@mikegould6590]

My first exposure to werewolves was reading Werewolf By Night from Marvel comics. Horror comics were a big thing for me way back then. Though, cinema wise, my first proper werewolf movie was probably The Wolfen. Since then The Company of Wolves, Silver Bullet, etc, have entered my life. I feel like I've not done the genre right by not watching Gingersnaps yet. That's a must watch for me. Yes, I've played in The World of Darkness, and I immediately saw the copyright problems with the Underworld series. No spoilers, but the Trick or Treat anthology has a neat tip of the hat to our Lycanthropes too.

[@Foustdoodles98]

Thank you so much for covering werewolves!! I have loved werewolves since I was a child!! Simply because they were cool to a dumb 6 year old, now looking at it as a 26 year old adult, I was right!! Werewolves are absolutely interesting and absolutely amazing!!! So happy to have been right for 20 years!!!😍😍🥰🥰

[@marinara2167]

holy cow the thrill of adrenaline that went through my body when you mentioned the companions in skyrim (the first video game i got INTO and replayed repeatedly for years bc of the character creation and storytelling options it inspired me to create) into Once Upon A Time's episode backstory for Red (WHO LATER BECOMES A CANON BISEXUAL in a s5 happy ending episode with an adult badass Wendy from Oz)

[@samoraiblack1]

The film at 15m 9s was the first werewolf I'd seen but it was a film with in a film 'The Sandlot'

[@maragevaudan477]

This was a fantastic video, and more than earned a subscription! I loved all the conversations with the interviewees, especially as I too, am a trans woman who loves the concept of werewolves in fiction. Its interesting, here in Scotland there aren't so many folklore examples of werewolves, but in Ireland, there are a lot of stories where werewolves were almost divine warriors that would fight for their kings, contrary to the monstrous and satanic narratives in the rest of Europe. (Also, Ginger Snaps is my favourite movie, and I loved the amount of love it got in this video!)

[@aislingk.9139]

always love to see Werewolf the Apocalypse mentioned, I have a love/hate relationship with that game

[@dalantemaes3277]

This was phenomenal. Culture needs more Werewolves!

[@KastiaVids]

Listening to this video while I work on my own werewolf webcomic....

[@kevin4680]

No MTV Teen Wolf mention? That was probably my first experience with them

[@tagussie]

I can't believe I'm about to comment this given that I've never read or watched any Twilight book/movie, but I just happen to know that it is revealed at the end that they're not really werewolves, but shapeshifters. Iirc, it's pointed out in a scene that they're fully transformed and it's daytime. I think that would explain that lack of interesting parts about lycanthropy, like the loss of control

[@lykainthropos]

werewolf enthusiast here just leaving comment for the algorithm etc etc

[@cceerryyss_bb]

welp, time to make a werewolf embroidery piece

[@yourhorseyepona7309]

R u SuRe U Not A FU4RRRRY?!?1 Yes to more were-beast aside from the werewolf. Also, I know this is about the Halloween monster werewolf, but something that's even less talked about is the Bisclavret-type werewolf, the noble knight who so happens to be a werewolf. Has anyone heard of that? Cuz I haven't since highschool.

[@DWrathborne]

I'm a bit surprised no one mentioned Guy Endore's novel The Werewolf of Paris (1933), later adapted as Hammer's Curse of the Werewolf (1961). A child concieved in and marked by evil, seemingly cursed to spread death and misery wherever he goes. Yet still poses a question about if this unfortunate creature is any worse than the violent mobs and warfare that were developing all around the country at the time.

[@The-Random-Hamlet]

Jack Nickleson cosplaying as Wolverine there for a second.

[@m.merritt310]

Interesting - I just wrote down a werewolf story idea, which now that I think about it, is basically Frankenstein if a different monster and with a parent figure who steps up. Ah well. I did have the idea of flipping the transformation guilt from killing someone to running away at crucial moment. Fear is one of our most primal emotional after all.

[@Teethmafia]

I used to have that red shirt shaggy werewolf episode on dvd. I’ve been sentenced to death by deep fucking cuts today.

[@mediabreakdown8963]

I’m sorry, is the thumbnail Ant himself in a fursona with bisexual coloring? Cuz that rules! ❤

[@RozenGermain]

OMG A sequel to the OSP werewolf video!!!!!! yay :3

[@kerricaine]

so...here's a question: is the movie "wolf children" a werewolf story?

[@agramuglia]

Yes

[@deathwish-fs1ib]

The way I've handled werewolves, well werecreatures as a whole which I refer to as therianthropes, is that its a genetic trait passed from parent to child and manifests in a variety of ways depending on the strength of their inner beast. The setting as a whole has a large number of different kinds of supernatural beings with a heavy emphasis on power at a price, balancing duelling natures as well as the power of both belief and human will. For therians, at their weakest state they are almost entirely human except having some quirks or habits that are shared with their beast. These are pretty easy to resist if not hide but they also don't gain any particular boon from being a therian except perhaps a heightened sense of senses. As it gets stronger their quirks and habits start to become bestial urges and instincts that are at times at war with their basic human nature, they might react incredibly aggressive to the slightest provocation. At this stage they need to actively supress these 'flare ups' but are also stronger and more resilient than regular humans, even gaining the ability to sprout claws and fangs. The stronger their instincts, the harder they are to resist and the more they are able to shift into their bestial form and if they aren't careful there's a chance that they will entirely lose themselves to their bestial nature and go fully feral. As for the bipedal vs quadrupedal, I've gone for something that blends the two, where they can walk upright and even use tools to some degree but are much faster and more mobile when they drop to all fours (kind'a like a bear but with opposable thumbs).

[@nkosig4995]

shoutout to my boy hiricine

[@DevukDelta]

Honestly as an enby i think my prefered style of werewolf is sort of tied to that little thing about me. neither going full bipedal nor quadrapedal but a kind of mixed design with like a distorted humanoid upper body and canine head and lower body, which yeah i know it sounds atypical but i mean like top-heavy where it struggles but can walk on 2 legs if it has to but has to run and is very clear built to move on all 4's instead with the added threat of being able to actually grab you etc. just yknow being in the middle and not having to fit 1 aspect of themselves over the other while being able to go back and forth. even with the transformations where i much prefer when theyre tied to like heightened emotions and can even react as a sort of defense mechanism that can eventually be figured out and maintained so its not like a permanent thing, nor a curse or anything of the like but just an aspect of ones self albeit different and still /other/ where even when the individual "controls" it its still more animalistic and emotional yet knows the difference between friend, foe and food and thats about it.

[@johnylitalo4163]

What I learned from werewolf sightings, if I see a werewolf, I'll believe in werewolf.

[@awiedhuman159]

I think varbjöne/varbjørne is cooler than wherewolves... Anyways, as always: your awsome!!!!!!!!!!

[@exalteddjinn69]

My first introduction to werewolves was the movie Bad Moon.

[@KastiaVids]

I'VE NEVER CLICKED ON A VIDEO SO FAST.

[@ArendAlphaEagle]

Okay, I already mentioned the Dutch children book series _Dolfje Weerwolfje_ (Alfie the Werewolf) in the comments of your last Halloween-esque vid already. Do I need to talk about it again? Funnily enough, in one of the later books (one that was never released in English), I got some sort of trans allegory out of it? Basically, Dolfje got kidnapped by his biological parents (who abandoned him long ago when they find out he was going to become a werewolf when he becomes 7 years old), and then enlist a Romanian troll-like woman (who actually was a young woman that was cursed into a troll woman) to un-werewolfify him by indoctrination, punishment, and attempting to ingest a potion that will make him a normal boy (and all that just so the parents can get a massive inheritance). But at this point, Dolfje loves being a werewolf and doesn't want his lycanthropy to be undone (and he already has a found family in his foster/adoption parents and brother), so he refuses and keeps resisting until his family rescues him. I dunno if Paul van Loon intended it to be a trans allegory, but that's what I got out of it. Side note, the were-animal thing at the end reminds me of a Phineas and Ferb episode in which Doofenshmirtz becomes a were-cow. And yes, it was a Halloween episode too.

[@The-Random-Hamlet]

I don't suppose a video similar to this but for vampires would be doable?

[@dramonmaster222]

How fitting for the Halloween season.

[@finngswan3732]

This is perfect for my novella I'm writing. Thank you!

[@Alkemisti]

I was about to say that the Finnish novel _Sudenmorsian_ (Wolf's Bride) by Aino Kallas from 1928 could count as the werewolf-Dracula, but unfortunately I do not find any indication that it has ever been translated into English.

[@erdood3235]

It inspired to think more about going forward with an idea or some that i had in my brain. I connect to the were animal concept as an autist and a queer

[@justanotherrandomchannel6981]

I have an idea for a werewolf character where the human side and the wolf side are two separate characters who are forced to share the same body. Basically, after the green-eyed, personable human is afflicted with the werewolf curse, he gains the abilities of a werewolf, and then said abilities gradually gain its own blue-eyed and aggressive personality. Depending on whose will is stronger, either personality can take control of the body at any time, and the other can only watch with no control. Outsiders can tell who's currently driving by the color of the character's eyes; the wolf can also assume a human form that is slightly bigger and gruffer than usual. However, when it's a new moon, the human gets complete control and the wolf is totally dormant, and vice versa during a full moon.

[@dragolingrand7778]

I don't know if this would be considered a "Traditional" or "a Definitive" werewolf film, but there is a film that I had seen before yet no one has talked about. It's called Wolf Children, and it's about a mother who you guessed it has wolf children. The children themselves have the ability to turn into wolves. That somewhat reminded me of the werewolf idea.

[@exalteddjinn69]

I always liked werewolves more than vampires, team werewolf!!.

[@mikegould6590]

I'd like to suggest Monstrum as a monster resource here as well for all concerned.

[@Demolitiondude]

No. God no. No. No. No.

[@ianmoore7246]

Also consider the imperialism of Continental Europe and the need to create a savage and vile outgroup that needs to be tamed. The position of quasi werewolf beings in Celtic lore, and the respect they are given, places these creatures outside of the modern, read capitalist, view that is prevalent in the werewolf bashing media abound today. In this juxtaposition of views between the Celts and the colonizers about werewolves/wolfs also serves as, in the colonizers mind, a reason to oppress the "strange savages". The entire werewolf existence is totally reliant upon this in my understanding of the creature. It reminds me of the Shetlandic wolver, which is essentially a protector of the elderly and widowed that made up much of the population in that quasi socialist matrifocal society, and the colonizer's focus on this Celtic society being horrible backwoods sex crazed savages.

[@Stephen-Fox]

American Werewolf in London is one of my favourite movies of all time. And I think my ideal werewolf film would be American Werewolf in London, but gay. And while I'm not going to say 'and more horny' - American Werewolf in London is already plenty horny - I am going to say at least as horny. (Depending on how you define 'werewolf' I think the first werewolf-related media I recall seeing would have been the British children's drama Woof!, which was about a boy who would periodically and uncontrollably turn into a dog and back. I'm not entirely sure what the first... Traditional... werewolf I saw would have been) One thing that came up in one of the interviews did remind me of something - In the writer's notes for the Big Finish Doctor Who audio drama Loups-Garoux, the writer mentions... IIRC... "Werewolves are real. They have websites. Surprisingly happy." and all my mind has been able to think about that audio drama since is "Just how much furry art did this man encounter while doing researching for this script?"

[@alexbdagger]

this video made me think of john talbain from darkstalkers.

[@lavender317]

All werewolves are hot, that's just a fact

[@LycanWitch]

I think one of the main issues with werewolf stories, well, modern stories and especially movies is they make them into mindless killing machines, so as a result there can’t be a Dracula, a Frankenstein, or an interview with the vampire.. as their characters have zero humanity or anything for the audience to connect to beyond aggression or their appearance.. Meanwhile historical werewolves, many instances of transformation around the world through various cultures, typically involve a ritual or witchcraft or similar, however the one distinct thing is there’s a human at the helm, they aren’t just mindless killing machines driven purely by rage or instinct and bloodlust, but often a witch or someone of intelligence and skill.. so if a modern tale instead focuses on this aspect where there is a mind inside the wolf, capable of intelligence or even “humanity” that may result in a werewolf movie or story akin to those other horror stories.. as even the most closest to mindless, Frankenstein’s monster, even the monster possessed humanity and makes the reader or viewer feel sympathy/empathy and a connection to them.

[@catmansparrow8620]

Hell yeah!! Werewolves!!!

[@CuppaLLX]

To be fair to werewolf the apocalypse because I’ve actually read pretty much all the world of darkness books, the entire point of the entire world of darkness as its Gothic or with heavy spiritual themes, everybody’s got spiritual aspects. The werewolves lean, Native American spiritualism vampires lead on Christian with their founder being from Kane enable the mages are multicultural, but with their main enemy being literally the technocracy who emerge sort of a response to all the supernatural stuff, you’ve got Gaelic stuff with the Fay and the changing, wraith for the dead. You got kindred of the east Demon Hunter x, etc. Kind of just covers every culture and every different interpretation of these classic monsters.

[@antonakesson]

A friend of mine really loves werewolves because they are cool and, mostly, feral but also because he thinks vampires are too gay XD So I argued that a bunch of hairy muscled men mostly living in packs with other hairy muscled men with a tendency to roam around naked after transformation is not gay? He kinda laughed. I do believe he still feels that way though. I find that funny since Dracula is such a hetero sex icon but whatever XD

[@bigsky1047]

Finally, ant’s furry video

[@TooBeefy]

Ah, a fellow ssj4 Shaggy Rojo enjoyer~

[@captainoftheneverdie21]

But what about the Werebear?

[@caoticaio4507]

HELL YEAH THATS SICK DUDE

[@Toast-com]

I fucking love werewolves.

[@wethefreeproductions]

After they made Wolf Cop there was nothing left for the genre.

[@zainmudassir2964]

Wow

[@Magicghost23]

🌕🐺

[@lautaroasis60]

43:21 its not homophobic? Thinking aids is gay is homophobic, making an aids allegory isn-OOOOOOOOh you said this a couple seconds later while I was writing this, nevermind, thanks, also I think you are right about jk can chase many ideas at the same time, i didn't know the stuff from the books so thanks for explaining.

[@andr3theloser]

okay furry friends here we go

[@TheObsidianArchives]

0:47 Wrong, you could technically trace the were-wolf back to greek mythology, it was a whole story and everything, I think the name Lycan could be traced back to one of the characters.

[@Rodomist]

Literally 6:15. Have patience.

[@agramuglia]

Oh yeah, I mention this.

[@TheObsidianArchives]

@@Rodomist All good

[@SweetT80124]

I'm confused. I thought Queerness and AIDS were different because AIDS can encompass both heterosexuality and homosexuality (despite the harmful misconception over the decades). Can someone explain that as I am someone who likely does not understand anything?

[@agramuglia]

AIDS was considered a problem in the queer community for quite some time.

[@SweetT80124]

@@agramugliaBut even heterosexuals can get AIDS. It's not restricted to anyone.

[@SweetT80124]

​@@agramugliaMy comment got deleted for some reason. I wanted to say that I was confused because I don't understand why people don't and/or didn't realize that heterosexuals can also get AIDS, and how the world incorrectly thought/thinks that AIDS means Queer.

[@agramuglia]

@@SweetT80124 it got deleted?? That is strange.

[@SweetT80124]

@@agramuglia Probably a glitch.