The Ancients: Plato

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[@jameswoodard2232]

Thank you! Your genius brought me huge understanding. I loved 'In the begining was the conversation.' Thanks again!

[@aidan_arvizu]

After years of studying Plato I have scarcely found such excellent explanations as this one. Thank you.

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You're amazing at your job Wes, I've really been enjoying these.

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_The beauty of schools_ We moved often when I was a kid... I never thought architectural beauty was deeply important, but, I just realized that the school in which I performed best and was most studious was in fact the most beautiful school I went to. There was a nice huge meaningful mosaic on one of the outside walls : art! My school after that one was in the basement of an old church with dull cardboard walls and water on the floors at times. My grades went down the drain there.

[@bob1881]

14:30 Beauty For ancient Greeks Beauty also means true, just, or noble. Also healthy and inspiring. 16:00 Including beauty in your life should inspire you to be a better human being. Ugliness damages us at the most fundamental level. 16:15 You need inspiration, divine inspiration, as it turns out, from beautiful objects to raise you above your Baseness. 17:05 if you have something that is so beautiful and so inspirational, imagine how great you would be.

[@garretttedeman]

Great talk & summarization of a whole variety of concepts. Thanks so much for sharing!

[@kylefcb1]

Finished the apology yesterday. Perfect timing. Thanks Wes!

[@OMiskell]

Thank you for recording and sharing your knowledge.

[@Jotun184]

Love this. Clear and concise explanation of the core of what he was about (so I can pretend to be more well read than I am hehe)

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I love this, thank you so much for putting it up. I even listen to the seminars you make that I have no concept about. However I alaways feel slightly smarted for it.

[@sc4v3ng3r]

I remember listening a podcast in wich Wes said he gave up coffee as an experiment, wich turned out to be one of the most positive thing he did. Sounds like he had a relapse since then.

[@JojenReed]

Legal addictions are the hardest kind

[@JimmyPlato1]

I love this lecture of the greatest Philosopher of all-time: PLATO

[@TTmysTT]

When a interviewer asked plato "how does it feel like being the greatest Philosopher of our time" he said "I dont know you should probably ask socrates"

[@JimmyPlato1]

@@TTmysTT Very interesting.... Socrates was indeed Plato's master, and he taught Plato how to be relentlessly inquisitive about open minded questioning on how to come to conceptions that represent authentic truths within Truth Itself.

[@TTmysTT]

I'm really new to philosophy in general but seems to me that Plato really idolized Socrates@@JimmyPlato1.(also didn't expect you to reply you left this comment 5 years ago )

[@rosesandsongs21]

Captivating, thank you.

[@alan2here]

The platonic sphere is real, a specific physical sphere is arbitrary. Absolutely :)

[@VVeltanschauung187]

It was excusable to be a nominalist (the believer of psychological archetypes existing in our brain, and not outside of ourselves) centuries ago maybe, but not now. Now, it is a sign of mathematical illiteracy. The developments in complex analysis and fractal geometry leaves no doubt that Plato was right

[@paideia-e9u]

Thank you, my most noble friend, great job. altc

[@chrisyu7318]

Life is educating your self better person, wiser, Beauty. Wisdom is delightful to do something good

[@tracyburck7780]

Interesting overview. Thank U

[@user-tz8xl2kf6q]

As I understand it, the word logos is, the speech, the talking with logic, with reason... Someone who is talking with logic, with mind, who have a start and an end on his actions and his thoughts. Who have a plan from the start to the end. Someone who knows what he is doing. You can't defined the word logos in English, in one word. I think.

[@ethanjames1316]

This is great! You should do Plotinus!

[@gg3675]

Hey Wes, if you read these you'll be very interested to know that further arguments for equality between men and women came soon after Plato! Zeno (the Stoic) wrote his own Republic in response to Plato whom he overwhelmingly disagreed with, but they agreed on this issue. Apparently he even argued that gendered clothing should be abandoned. Unfortunately the content of this work is now fragmentary, but because of the later popularity of Stoicism we're lucky enough to know something about it.

[@navyforeveryoungjean-phili5940]

At around 34:52 he says that plato’s theory about not allowing people freedom until they’re Able to overcome their base passions to some extinct may be accurate, and the audience/ students laugh. I’m so annoyed that they laughed and didn’t understand his point. Smh.

[@Laocoon283]

You misunderstand; they understood the point and then laughed. It's an absurd idea lol.

[@michaelwu7678]

Hey Wes don’t you mean “Ancients”?

[@LoudPaintings]

Please do one on Chuang Tzu

[@KarlW1979]

I hope Aristotle is coming up soon.

[@nickburgett2355]

Karl Wenn already is

[@KarlW1979]

Looking through his videos and not seeing it. Can you share a link?

[@kabbalisticteddy]

1:40 to 1:45 I did not know that. Implications. And then, Meta-Implications. Run it.

[@cloudage2956]

31:26 Excess of [excessive?] liberty.... what liberty is for...

[@Laocoon283]

Trust me, the last thing anyone wants is pure freedom.

[@peterdollins3610]

The Paratheon held the treasury for Athens when Athens became an Empire.

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[@benquinney2]

Good conversation

[@PaulMcMinotaur]

32:36

[@jordanlindo9703]

William Tyndale translated the Bible into it's modern English. He was a brilliant linguist and died for his work. Logos means the WORD. It is means GOD."And God said, Let there be light: and there was light." Gen.1:3

[@lisadioguardi5742]

There were lengthy discussions in the fourth century over the translation, mostly because it didn't translate into a single Latin word. There were other Greek words that could also have meant "word", and even today logos can be translated into a lot of English words depending on the context. Especially from ancient languages, the meaning of some words require lengthy descriptions that don't read smoothly because we don't have a real equivalent. The debate existed long before Erasmus, and it was the absence of the trinity in 1 John that was challenged by theologians.

[@jordanlindo9703]

The Alexandrian translation was the foundation of the Vulgate which was corrupted from the beginning. The Textus Receptus was the true text that corresponded with the Tanakh. There is no debate if you believe scripture, which text is correct.

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[@RonnieLimestone]

Thank you!

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Jordan Lindo: Yawn...

[@danielnunez3206]

Whats the word, kayon?

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I was the 1000th like Yayyyyyyy:)

[@adammorait7429]

does logos really means conversation ? this is what I found on internet A principle originating in classical Greek thought which refers to a universal divine reason, immanent in nature, yet transcending all oppositions and imperfections in the cosmos and humanity. An eternal and unchanging truth present from the time of creation, available to every individual who seeks it

[@Laocoon283]

I was looking for this comment. He literally lied about the meaning of that word lol.

[@kevint876]

10:00

[@lambd01d]

There are no wrong chords. The ancient Greeks didn't have the benefit of jazz which has loads of complex dissonant chords that somehow work..

[@renunciant]

Did he make that opening emphasis on "breadth" because he supports the false translation of his name?

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[@walterneta3679]

The US is a republic and not a democracy. There is a difference and knowing the difference helps understand how the federal government should function.

[@Laocoon283]

More like an oligarchy these days tbh

[@alan2here]

Soul's don't have sexes, but they roll around with 4 arms and 4 legs and 2 mouths making ungodly levels of noise… Oh wait :)

[@meyeseyes3578]

But I thought Plato was for me to become an insufferable ass? Your lecture makes me feel as though I already had been and blamed it all on him :( how dare I.

[@benquinney2]

Rule of law

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[@Laocoon283]

You have no idea what your talking about with the word λογος. The word has a lot of different definitions. It can mean word, speech, tale, story, reckoning, account, proportion, reason, rationality etc etc. IT DOES NOT JUST SIMPLY MEAN CONVERSATION. The idea doesn't even make sense cause just who do you think god is having a conversation with? Lol

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SJWs need to listen to this.

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Which ones?

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bias af. bit of a deterrent. otherwise, fairly good.