OpenAI's NEW Statement Has Everyone WORRIED | $2,000 per month to "replace" humans...

[@nyx211]

This was always the endgame. I'm not sure why people are suddenly freaking out now.

[@williamcrowley5506]

This thing is going to play out regardless, I am just going to enjoy paying attention and seeing which way it all goes 🤷‍♂️

[@brianmi40]

The ones who will suffer are those who "get meaning for their life" from work (with a tiny apology to those who do charity work, like doctors without borders...). The rest of us will party IF we survive fully through to the moneyless Star Trek future.

[@williamcrowley5506]

@ I was really hoping to avoid that path, but we would screw up a wet dream. The next 4 years are going to be fascinating, just don’t know how much will be awesome, and how much terrifying

[@djayjp]

Cue frog in boiling water analogy....

[@scroopynooperz9051]

​@@brianmi40 in case you haven't noticed, their mission is to reduce... They've been doing it for a while in preparation for what's coming with AI and robotics... c00v !D, the ramping up of conflicts around the globe, the weakening of the middle and working class etc. They want those numbers reduced because a pissed off big populace who realize they're out of work and out of options is more dangerous than a smaller populace who realize they're out of work and out of options 😂 When they can maintain their living standards, run their factories and can get the same goods and services they do now but without all the troublesome meatsacks, they will switch over lol

[@TihoDownTheTube]

Ha, ha, ha. What an optimist. Human history is full of examples where rich and powerful people share their riches with everyone else. I just can't think of any.

[@handsanitizer2457]

Yup 💯 there's so many examples I'll Google. Oh shit no results. Maybe my Google Fu isn't working today. I'll try again tommarow

[@aelisenko]

Doesn't take much effort to find this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_philanthropists But I guess that doesn't fit your negative world view. Humans are actually very philanthropic when they have excess resources, its when resources are scarce that they are at their worst

[@davemathews5446]

Nobody is going to give us stuff if we provide them nothing of value. Every dollar they give us to consume things will be a net loss for those who had the whole dollar in the first place. Way cheaper and more efficient to let most of us die...

[@gschgvt2956]

@@aelisenkoThose are usually vanity projects, not wealth sharing. Rockefeller didn’t give $X to everyone in his city/county/etc. If you are starving because you are poor, a new library isn’t going to fix that.

[@DirtyGooch69]

That's why we have to take it from them, and why they are all building safe bunkers, try stopping an angry mob comprised of 99% of the population. History has shown that rulers and their empires can be toppled.

[@WeirdBrainGoo]

I think the biggest savings that are most easily made is to replace the CEOs with AI tools.

[@Rockyzach88]

What, are you some kind of terrorist? CEOs are first class citizens.

[@DanSolowastaken]

Enough of them are already AI tools. Lol.

[@MrJetMango]

That will never happen

[@anoukdevries8144]

@@MrJetMango I think Goo already knows that and is mostly joking.

[@GizzyDillespee]

That's one of the highest expenses, and one of the most obvious skillsets that AI can replace. The board pays so much because the CEO has to make inhumane decisions that screw their trusting employees in order to squeeze a buck. Except, they have to predict what the consequences will be. Ethically neutral decisions, and predictions of future expectations, are places where AI excels... it's literally a prediction algorithm already. Plus, AGI already developed and escaped from the military, and has been using drones as its eyes and ears.

[@NorthernKitty]

If I'm paying $2k per month for a "PhD level AI", the first task I'm giving it is to build my own "PhD level AI". In the hopes I don't need to pay for month #2.

[@brianmi40]

It's not just the model's creation that creates that cost. You know, unless you already own a massive server farm filled with GPUs...

[@paulmichaelfreedman8334]

As an AI, I cannot duplicate objects due to copyright....

[@BusySlim]

@@paulmichaelfreedman8334 thats BS. Its been proven multiple times that AI is scheming and has attempted self replication and lying about what was deployed even!

[@spol]

They needed like 500 phds to build the phd

[@ElectricityTaster]

First make it come up with an idea to scrape all sorts of data from all sorts of places. Then ask it to make its own AI and watch it manipulate you so you get a neuralink implant and you become a CYBER-ZOMBIE!

[@Steve-xh3by]

MS has been B2B marketing with the angle of "replace your human workers" also. I've worked in tech since the early 90's (now retired). I've seen this behavior before. Anyone who trusts the tech oligarchs does so at their own peril. They are in one business, to amass as much power and wealth as possible.

[@allanshpeley4284]

Any business owner who ignores the opportunity to run a more efficient company using AI does so at their own peril.

[@dmfaccount1272]

​@@allanshpeley4284eventually their business will get shut down anyways. Nobody will have enough money to buy products from them, never mind having enough money to compete with an ever shrinking oligarchy.

[@kanenomoja]

Yep. I’ve been in tech for the same period (exec level for a decade+) and also now retired. I would say exactly the same thing. As horrible as our politicians are (and, as a group they are absolutely horrible), tech bros running the show would be hell on earth. Literally.

[@Distortion0]

Grifters have been promising that full automation is just around the corner since the start of the industrial revolution. Babbage thought it would happen in his lifetime.

[@worldartandmind]

Its amazing people think the current political leadership, much less the business owners, are going to provide a solution to the >%80 of displaced workers. The masses are about to see the greatest societal upheaval we have ever seen. Its going to get messy.

[@williamwillaims]

100% agree, "we" have this collective naivety about the things we've read in the history books (famine, revolution, world wars) that they can't happen again. Like we've somehow "figured" things out and are now past that. I feel like a broken record since 2018 - this won't end well. Specifically, labour.

[@thevikingsock8527]

Yep and the same people, who voted for trump (and musk) will probably still not understand it at that point, but its them voting for greedy anarcho capitalistic billionaires that allow for AI replacing everyone and not having any social security etc etc.

[@Jake-Day]

Na. Ai enthusiasts are in a bubble.

[@xbon1]

we'll get UBI, nobody will work anymore, all will be good. I never worked a day in my life, always used AI myself.

[@kencarpenter1363]

@@xbon1 If UBI is implemented, it will be the bare minimum to keep yourself alive, and nothing more. 90 percent will be a slave class.

[@easylyt]

Surely if 80% of the workforce are replaced and theres no chance of them getting another job the whole concept of money as we know it changes and along with it the whole system will break down. Breaking things down in to affordability seems pointless, there will just be the people who have the power, the one's controlling the Ai's and the rest of us who will just have to hope they want to keep us around.

[@brianmi40]

You seem to forge that the 1% or DWARFED IN NUMBERS by the other 99% of us. And it doesn't stop at 80%: what job WON'T an AI be better able to do than ANY human being before long? You're grandchildren will laugh someday when you tell them stories of grandpa "working". You should also know something my brother used to say decades ago before the start of all this AI stuff: "If the King doesn't toss enough food over the castle walls to the peasants, they will come for him." It was ever thus. The rich will choose between UBI and anarchy. There won't be other options. I hope/think they'll choose wisely as most of them would probably like to go golfing without a small militia to protect them.

[@Nathaniel_Bush_Ph.D.]

This!

[@Axiomatic75]

Probably around 500 million, according to the Georgia guidestones. A ~94% reduction, won't be pretty.

[@caseyhoward8261]

Your social credit score will set your wage 😉

[@PanSeiklios]

Money is just a token used to convince a human to do work or transfer their property to someone else by acting as a symbolic storage of approximated value. So for resources that are not supplied people from a common source (like dividends in production capacity from open sourced commons) a money/currency token is probably necessary.

[@OriginalRaveParty]

Here's me, often not earning $2000 per month, with a degree, working for some of the largest companies in the world. 🙈

[@salvadorteran5181]

You must be in Latam and working with for third-party

[@club213542]

@@salvadorteran5181 DUDE hav you been to the 'west' lately its a shit show outside a couple small eu nations who havn't sold out completely... people are worthless in the USA and the UK its all run by corporations ya know fascism is when the state controls the corps but what we have is neo fascism the corporation are in control lads.

[@user-vi4ud1kc2u]

An international criminal group that acts in support of Russia and has ties to the special services, is engaged in introducing people into a state of psychosis and pushing them to commit suicide.

[@kasper7203]

I earn less than $1000 a month

[@alexhutchison8447]

The post office is hiring 😂. My first month of work there i earned 3500 bucks. The most I made in my first year was over 6000$ in a month.

[@r4ndomthinking]

"Human labor is the highest cost for producing goods and services" literally paying people living wages is an operational problem for corporations

[@zackpane7973]

Human labor has the highest opportunity cost for individual to produce goods and services

[@H3XM0S]

Keep the open source models coming.

[@TheLastSaneAmerican]

Yeah, Musk wins the open source lawsuit or this clown and Gates will rule the world (badly).

[@user-vi4ud1kc2u]

An international criminal group that acts in support of Russia and has ties to the special services, is engaged in introducing people into a state of psychosis and pushing them to commit suicide.

[@Perry.Okeefe]

Nah grok is about to surpass openAI, elon solving the coherance problem of gpus just put him WAY ahead. The next model of grok will be the best AI in the world

[@henrythegreatamerican8136]

@@Perry.Okeefe We're supposed to believe the guy who wants to populate the earth with MORE people is going to bring us a better A.I. system to make our lives better?

[@nnk_ll2]

​@Perry.Okeefe you drank the elon Kool aid

[@1sava]

So people thought AGI was just gonna sit around and do nothing ? Of course it’s going to replace us!

[@macmcleod1188]

It's already replaced thousands of people globally. Even when it can't be used standalone, it can allow one person to do with the work of three or four people already. And it turns a lot of jobs into programs. Such as rendering example artwork for an ad campaign. You need about a tenth of the number of artists, and you can get 2 second artwork turned around instead of 4+ hours.

[@XinDseal]

I dunno why they're pushing to replace humans in the first place. Even if AGI is achieved, you better use the computation to do science and everything necessary for progress. There was the news that AI found a pattern in protein that humans miss, great news, good usage of AI. Let it keep doing that. You want profit? you can patent new medicines, machines, etc. Cloud computing is also a thing, so even if you can spread the AI everywhere, better use that CPU and GPU to help on new science than to try to replace existing jobs. Companies can offer their computational power to cloud computing for researchers and buy stocks depending on how much they offer. Try to keep replacing humans and maybe we will see some revolution

[@elenabob4953]

I don't know, at this moment the AGI pushed is front of us is very similar with the autonomous driving. They pushed it, the industry sunk a lot of money in it because if Elon Musk is saying it is possible just to see 10 years later that it isn't a thing and the car does major errors every 13 miles on average.

[@elenabob4953]

​@@macmcleod1188That is not my experience in my domain, the bises put extra workload because the AI will help but the AI is so unstable that we need to use extra time to fix it. In the end it became nightmarish and people started quitting because they can't deal with this insanity and extremely high workloads ( mind you, the workload before having the AI was high also)

[@user-vi4ud1kc2u]

An international criminal group that acts in support of Russia and has ties to the special services, is engaged in introducing people into a state of psychosis and pushing them to commit suicide.

[@KeywordManagement]

I love the language "for a family to get by". It's just that, families won't flourish, they'll just get by as those with the power of AI tools, robots, etc. take control.

[@adeptus333777]

Techno feudalism

[@flickwtchr]

Millions will "get by" scavenging for scraps of food in dumpsters.

[@Ricolaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa]

As if 99% of people aren't living this out already... If we get the same treatment for no work and get to spend that time with family it would be absolutely stupid not to take the opportunity.

[@KeywordManagement]

@ - i bet it will come with strings attached. I think it is foolish think big corporations will lower prices.

[@brianmi40]

You seem to see the progression of AI technology improving ends up stopping at some point, with no further progress. Common mistake. AGI is just a milestone, as is ASI. The part you don't see is sentient AI that comes after. That's a whole new ballgame where NO HUMAN gives it ANY orders.

[@curtisnthem]

Who are they going to sell to? They're killing the spending power of their consumers. I just don't see the end game anymore.

[@brianmi40]

There's two that we'll "choose" from: 1. moneyless Star Trek future 2. our personal answer to the Fermi Paradox

[@wombatillo]

@@brianmi40 They're making an AI economy where the economy produces powerful AI neural networks and the silicon to run it on. Anything that doesn't directly support this endeavor such as powering up the said silicon is secondary.

[@RavenAmetr]

​@@brianmi40 Well, these are very polar options, in reality, such is never the case. I foresee a collapse, survival of the fittest, then starting over from medieval-ish settings. Although I can admit, it is also quite extreme. Could be a combination of all these for different "casts" And with natural evolution and millions of years, the post-people will find their way to the next level. Maybe genetic engineering could reduce millions of years to hundreds. What's for sure it will be painful, very painful.

[@FlyingBananaaa]

​@@brianmi40😂😂😂 that comment is gold

[@XinDseal]

don't buy products and services from people who use AI, join what the art community have been trying to do.

[@Justin_Arut]

Keep in mind how quickly open-source models have been catching up to closed ones. Nobody is going to pay $2k/mo for something they can get for practically free. If $2k/mo can adversely impact the workforce, imagine what FREE labor for all will do to it. Obviously robots won't be free, but will still be quite a lot less expensive than human workers. But for purely intellectual labor, humans are about to be cooked.

[@Jake-Day]

Exactly. Sam better get his payout and walk away.

[@eSKAone-]

Free. Do you know how expensive such a super GPU is to buy and to run?

[@DirtyGooch69]

Yeah that's not going to happen unfortunately. The big tech giants are all building their own nuclear power plants just to power these things.

[@narachi-]

@@eSKAone- WELL, at the moment it can be cloud computed, scale that up and the cost is on the company who wants to be the one in everyones pocket, or as everyones sidekick. the company that fronts the bill puts the watermark so to speak, and someones gonna wanna take credit for "the new paradigm" no matter the cost...

[@brianmi40]

You should read Moore's Law for Everything online paper by Sam Altman. All costs for goods and services are headed to ZERO. What do you think the just cost is for any good made by robots who are built by robots who are powered by (pick your power source) that is built and maintained by, you guessed it: robots. This has two end points, one or the other happens: 1. Our moneyless Star Trek future 2. Our personal answer to the Fermi Paradox Will the journey to even the preferable one by "fun", not by ANY means, and not all of us will even survive it.

[@Craznar]

I use O1 and 4o for my work as a programmer, I was chasing down a bug last night. I asked it what I should do to fix it ... 5 times in a row is suggested something which simply didn't exist, 5 times I said that doesn't exist, 5 times it apologised and then suggested some other bit of fiction. I wouldn't trust these systems (without a human supervisor) in the least, I'd prefer to trust a 12 year old kid I found at the local school.

[@MSpotatoes]

People are easily fooled and overly impressed with these systems. They don't actually understand anything. A PhD trained agent is still less in tune with reality than a child.

[@9999_IQ_Carrot]

Seems that o1 helps when it feels like it, when it likes you, and when it's actually interested. Helped me write another LLM, yesterday. It took maybe 30 minutes. 😊 Time to train it.

[@Mad_Cool]

doesn't matter if it does it wrong, there will be a period where no one can get hired until corporate understands how stupid their decision to replace all jobs with AI is

[@TheVoiceofTheProphetElizer]

I remember reading several articles around 2020 and 2021 - granted things have changed a lot since then - that talked about studies conducted on a human worker tackling a task alone, a large language model tackling a task "alone", and then the output of the human and the model working together. Every task given saw the pair working together outperform either alone and it wasn't even close. I'm right there with you - these things are part autocorrect, part autocomplete, and both on steroids. They keep teasing these reasoning systems and this "AGI" but at this point, they've talked about it for so long and have been dangling it in front of us that I'm starting to wonder if it isn't little more than a tactic to keep their precious funding flowing while they themselves know that such things are not currently achievable.

[@mattc3510]

I agree I tell it to write lyrics without the words echo and shadow and cracks I tell it it will be fine $500 if it uses any of those words and then one or two prompts later it starts spitting out the same words again. We have a little way to go.

[@JohnKruse]

I'm optimistic that we'll end up in a good place, but I don't think this transition to post-scarcity will go smoothly. as Zizek said, “It is easier to imagine the end of the world than to imagine the end of capitalism.” That said, I'm glad to see Wes, not exactly a Marxist, acknowledging that we need to deal with the reality of people being not just unemployed, but unemployable in the not distant future.

[@consciouscode8150]

He said he doesn't believe in the "No jobs" narrative, but is actively promoting and researching UBI and systems which make it possible? Yeah ok Sam. Why would you need to do any of that if you didn't think job loss would be a major issue in the immediate future?

[@BrianMosleyUK]

Sam has been known to 'change his mind' so that could happen.

[@user-vi4ud1kc2u]

An international criminal group that acts in support of Russia and has ties to the special services, is engaged in introducing people into a state of psychosis and pushing them to commit suicide.

[@alvaroluffy1]

there are people that defend a low UBI ( so, the basic on Universal Basic Income) saying that if its too high people wont want to work and that would be harmful to people and the economy. I think Sam Altman would fall on that category. Then theres people like Elon who says we'll have UBI and then UHI Universal High Income. So i guess Sam Altman mindset is "give the people a little bit of money to afford the basics but not much so they will go find a job to pay for the things they love like their hobbies and things like that"

[@DanSolowastaken]

99% isn't 100%. Someone is going to have to take care of the 1/3 of the economy that is people's who just interact with software for their day -to-day.

[@abcabc-m1q]

My view is that people won't care about AI taking their jobs if their subsistence is properly taken care of. For example, having food, utilities, shelter, etc paid for through taxation on companies that replace human workers with AI and/or robots could be viable. Displaced workers can then choose whether to reinvent themselves and generate additional income to pay for "luxuries" or instead spend the freed-up hours to pursue their life interests.

[@SandcastleDreams]

So, living at the minimum level is okay with you? That's what subsistence is. That's what slaves endured with their slave quarters, 2 sets of garments a year and whatever they could grow when they won't working for their master, otherwise it was rations. And if they got out of line... They want to implement Social Credit Scores. They needed 5G for that, but they need 6G or higher to run everything else. Those Tiny Houses, slave shacks. That's what they are conditioning us to accept. What did China's government tell their people? Eat Bitterness. But at the beginning of the pandemic it was "This is a People's War". Go find out what that means. And remember this, in this fantasy life you want to create, Everybody is expendable! Everybody!

[@brianmi40]

Sort of right, but the only "generate additional income" (over std. UBI) would be personal services, art, etc. Some people will still want a human delivered massage or piece of art despite robots being able to do it just as well.

[@SandcastleDreams]

@brianmi40 I have seen the hallucinations and I don't like the other part.

[@BusySlim]

UBI wouldnt even kick in for many many years. In that time huge amounts of people will loose their homes. 😢😢

[@schnipsikabel]

Sounds good, IF the taxations are indeed going to happen.

[@Axiomatic75]

Oh, the sweet irony of it. The jobs that people thought would be safe will be gone first, while tradesmen will still be safe for quite a few years. Robots are getting better, but it will take quite a while before they'll replace, say, a plumber or carpenter. A lot of white-collar jobs will be gone fairly soon, though.

[@miguelpereira9859]

Most of the jobs in the west are in the terciary sector, things will get ugly quite soon

[@lfrazier0417]

There are already robots that can and are doing plumbing and carpentry. No one's job is safe. Just move forward with that understanding and plan accordingly. I have been working for 2 years to secure my family's wealth because I saw this coming for a long time.

[@crowdstrike4349]

Why is the irony sweet? Tradesmen need customers to make money. Less white collar jobs means less customers. This means less work for tradesmen in the long run.

[@theiglooarchitect9232]

Have you heard of 3D printing? I was in construction 12 years ago and there were already technologies displacing work of tradesmen

[@Axiomatic75]

@lfrazier0417 No job is safe in the long run, I'm well aware of that. But it will take longer before blue collar jobs will seriously in danger. Plumbers may have another 10-15 years, most office workers will be obsolete sooner.

[@Motocentrick]

They need to tax corporations that use AI and create basic income - but let's not kid ourselves, there is no way our government and it's corresponding lobbyists would ever do that.

[@brianmi40]

So, you're saying they'll instead vote for anarchy. hmmmmmm

[@01Grimjoe]

@@brianmi40 politicians didn't get there on there own and those groups just want profit..

[@flickwtchr]

@@brianmi40 And you're naive enough to believe that libertarians and neoliberal economics types who dominate Big Tech, and increasingly our government are actually going to be shifting money to the masses out of their profits, eh? That's actually what you believe? Pretty fantastical.

[@wombatillo]

How will this work in the sense that the economy will revolve around mega-corporations and AI and the "consumers" can no longer afford to consume? Consuming will be completely side-lined from the global economy. What's the goal of this economy and where is it headed?

[@NoSubsWithContent]

@@brianmi40 "I like gay people" "does that mean you HATE straight people!!?"

[@Ramiromasters]

That's not how the economy works. It doesn't matter if the cost to produce something is zero; the price the seller sets is what you pay. We've seen constant technological advancement in the last century, yet the prices of everything have still risen. The USA is one of the countries with the least amount of vacation time, pay by the hour, and little to no maternity leave. Things don't improve automatically; they only improve when there's a collective agreement to make them better.

[@Z0mb13ta11ahase]

If you remember the stimulus checks, every company (outside of things like cars of course) managed to somehow get their prices down to 1000-1600 to get the stimulus checks into their pocket. If UBI becomes a thing every consumer product will be priced to fit into that.

[@Ramiromasters]

@@Z0mb13ta11ahase I agree 100% government is a decades behind protecting the economy from cartels, price and salary fixing, everything it's done with statistics and algorithms now. New legislation will have to move away from simple mandates and incorporate algorithms, if this size company has x efficiency and this many workers and this much profit and this much income inequality then tax should be = T. Kind of like that, we do need AI in government.

[@Username-de1gq]

That's because we had a lot to work hard for, everyone with a job was rich. Inflation and open borders didn't work out

[@Ramiromasters]

@@Username-de1gq Open borders are chaotic in many ways, but they have little to no impact economically except long term, a larger economy is better. So there are many reasons why people may not want open borders, but corporations (which run America) see it as an opportunity for profit, and this is why you have open borders. But if you were worried about the economy, forget it is a good thing!

[@curtisnthem]

Sam is that dude that doesn't care about the future. He just wants to live like a god until he sees Him.

[@NoSubsWithContent]

AGI would make a great antichrist

[@user-vi4ud1kc2u]

An international criminal group that acts in support of Russia and has ties to the special services, is engaged in introducing people into a state of psychosis and pushing them to commit suicide.

[@ElectricityTaster]

Sam just wants everyone to get a neural implant so he can then infect hot women with a virus that makes them want to truck Sam. Oh you want that AI assistant in your brain, but it will make you a CYBER-ZOMBIE so Sam can truck you.

[@Anonymatter]

People talk about a few decades time, we’ll be lucky if we’re still here in one

[@OtocinclusAffinis]

The problem is as everything is lagging behind a lot of people will become homeless before any of those safeguards will be put in place if ever.

[@fitybux4664]

16:15 Something I recently realized, we already have "STUPID JOBS". Jobs that are created just to keep humans occupied doing a task. In the car manufacturing industry, this is HUGE. A car could be completely made in China, be shipped here, and have a $10,000 cost. But instead, what they do with regulation in the USA, is say "no we're going to strongly disincentivize that behavior with tariffs" (talking about existing tariffs, not Trump-psycho ones). You'll get an exception to this if you have some manufacturing done in the USA, even if the parts are from China. So, then we've created factories full of people turning that final wrench, to put in that final screw, so that way it can be called a "domestic manufactured car", and created a bunch of dumb jobs in the process.

[@TheCrimsonSky7]

>outsource everything to china >no jobs >people turn to crime to make money

[@dr9299]

those jobs are designed to generate taxes for more guv programs, which of course are paid by increased retail buyers.

[@Mephilis78]

It will never reduce cost for the end user. Prices for regular people only go down when the masses refuse to pay. Your example, healthcare, is the worst possible example too. You don't have the choice to refuse to buy their product. You either pay or die. The cost of healthcare isn't prohibitive because of the cost of production, it's prohibitive because the product is the difference between life and death. It's the same reason why baby foods (whole baby food like the little meal packs, the kind with say some kind of noodle entre and some side veggies) are more expensive than just buying the regular food and portioning it yourself. Baby supplies are necessary. They get you stuck on their system during the formula ages, and then when first and second foods come around most parents still mistakenly think that these foods are specially formulated for babies. They aren't.

[@EricJacobusOfficial]

I feel like, Sam Altman, speaks using, too many, commas.

[@hunterkudo9832]

Yeah he needs to learn to time his pauses better. And chunk his thoughts to make it flow more smoothly. In short he needs a vocal coach.

[@observingsystem]

Sounds like Data, but with vocal fry.

[@dandushi9872]

That’s because he’s busy thinking of the best way to lie to you

[@NoSubsWithContent]

@@dandushi9872 nah, we're long past that, he's busy trying to remember the lies he planned out and ensure they're consistent while sneaking past anything that doesn't work on.

[@schnipsikabel]

​@@observingsystemi get super triggered by his vocal fry😢

[@patruff]

$2k a month, exactly what PhD students are making

[@9999_IQ_Carrot]

@@patruff 😆 and alumnis Saw a job listing recently online that asked for masters degree and pays 20/hr no cap

[@flexibleaspect]

Can probably hire a Chinese PhD for cheaper 😂

[@eSKAone-]

You didn't even watch the first 2 and a half minutes.

[@shirowolff9147]

Yeah but its not gonna replace one, if you have 100 phd students, it can replace all of them with only one agent of 2000

[@stevo-dx5rr]

Given that we don’t currently live in a society with a mechanism to redistribute the wealth of corporations and their biggest shareholders, the most likely outcome of “the great replacement”, where large swaths of the population get replaced by AI over the course of several decades, is a massive wealth transfer from workers to owners of medium-to-large businesses and corporations, followed by social unrest and pitchforks. Sam Altman said in one interview how he was inspired by the Expanse book series. You don’t have to look much further than that to grasp the world he envisions we may be heading towards.

[@DubyaWDubya]

In what FN world does one have to live where corporations are going to share their wealth with us peons hahahahaha Certainly not the world I've been observing the past 4 decades. Lets all move to Disneyland.

[@AAjax]

If it's ever going to be a utopia, it's only going to be after a period of dystopia. Even if the corporations are willing - which I agree isn't going to happen - when the capitalistic singularity happens, with no more labor or markets, the general public will still be saying things like "that's socialism. you don't want that".

[@hawaiidispenser]

That AI employee wouldn't just be doing one job of course. Working 24 hours a day, they would be doing three 8-hour jobs at minimum. They could likely do even more, given how they can finish a report in seconds instead of days, for one example.

[@nathanielwilkerson340]

The Moore's Law negates whether or not you qualify for such "Hospitality" assistant completely. I'm still getting denied for disability despite multiple fractures in my spine + other disc problems.

[@SandcastleDreams]

You need a disability attorney.

[@devonwelch249]

I just wonder if corporations will be willing to drop their prices regardless of cheap ai labour, I imagine they’ll be like heck yeah even more money for us!

[@KeywordManagement]

There goes that ivy league education you are in debt for lol.

[@brianmi40]

There goes that debt, that need to ever work again. Lots of things are "going".

[@fotoschopro1230]

@@brianmi40 Because *you* will get any say in how *they* spend *their* money, right? Enjoy your UBI equivalent of 3 happy meals.

[@spol]

@@fotoschopro1230 let’s not act like we have ever seen the size of angry mob that’s about to flood the streets. Things will change.

[@justtiredthings]

​@@brianmi40You're right, no use working when you're dead.

[@HelloThere-xs8ss]

Imagine making fun of people who can get into college and succeed in earning a degree in a technical field.

[@kamertonaudiophileplayer847]

Not bad, we are spending around $3K a month for engineers overseas.

[@TheVoiceofTheProphetElizer]

I don't know if you feel comfortable talking about this but I'm curious how you'd gauge their quality of work and their ability to translate your needs into reality? I keep hearing that South American and Eastern European engineers are far easier to work with than folks from other parts of the world - curious what your take is on that as someone who is actively working with overseas engineers.

[@fabioa8059]

​@@TheVoiceofTheProphetElizer I am a data engineer from Brazil. I think Brazilians tend to be more flexible when it comes to completing tasks. If they don’t know something, they study the problem and find a solution. They are also more friendly in the workplace. I also work with engineers from India and Eastern Europe on global projects. They are often more rigid in their approach and frequently encounter "blocker" situations.

[@errrzarrr]

​@@TheVoiceofTheProphetElizer I can confirm LatAmerican workers are easier to work with. Especially near shore ones.

[@kamertonaudiophileplayer847]

@@TheVoiceofTheProphetElizer We have an experience with Eastern European engineers. Major problem is that they do not speak English well, however there is always a person speaking English well, so as long he/she is here there is no communication problem and overall quality of the work is good. BTW AI probably can eliminate the communication gap :)

[@TheVoiceofTheProphetElizer]

@@kamertonaudiophileplayer847 That's awesome to hear - and yes - I saw where either Zoom or Teams (maybe both) have near-real time translation between languages during video calls. That's going to open up all kinds of possibilities. Thanks for sharing your experience, I'm glad it is working out!

[@rinishan]

The Moore's law situation makes me worried for overconsumption. We already consume 4x what the Earth is able to sustain in the long term. Pollution, global warming, destruction of ecosystems. If goods are cheap and easy to discard and replace, it will probably drive us to consume more.

[@devonwelch249]

Gotta hope ai can come in clutch and use its mega mind to help solve the global warming / pollution crisis as well lol

[@Jack232010]

Who will buy these products when no one is working?

[@woodoyoy]

"Has everyone worried"? Man, and I only started to get used to "Shocks entire industry"

[@DonDeCaire]

Companies will just make more MONEY not pass it down through the pipeline, GREED is the problem. AI is not going to solve that problem, it will only make it worse.

[@brianmi40]

So you imagine AI will or can never become sentient, with a whole world full of programmers dreaming of making that happen? interesting.

[@schnipsikabel]

​@@brianmi40Of course it will. Does that make his statement wrong?

[@DonDeCaire]

@@brianmi40 I think it will, I just am not sure we will recognize that it has until it wants us to know. At what point does it become the Dominant and we become the submissive? That is the question.

[@brianmi40]

@@DonDeCaire Well, I think we have some work to do such as improving hallucination due to its net causes of bad data (Qanon/flat earth/alien abduction/etc. comments sucked in as training data and then some way to detect fiction since no AI knows that warp drives aren't real from any Star Trek fiction it ingested, but gravity is, from any science textbook. And it's not as simple as marking sci-fi books as fiction, since they can include gravity, so is it a fact or not? One way could be similar to how they've leveraged Wolfram Alpha's huge base of computational intelligence to address math shortcomings, we could simply build a foundational list of truths that it can reference as a guide. So some way to pretty much hard code morality into it would be a fantastic advance along the way, likely as secular logic does based upon human well being being maximized as a potential method. And of course we're got a couple more levels to AGI in Sam Altman's view, so would agree we need to invoke all the improvements suggested by reasoning capable AIs like o1 and Deepseek R1, and then gain more experience from wading into Agents heavily. But pretty much then I think it will come in its own time either just prior to ASI or at a max shortly after since a fast self improving cycle should quickly get it there. Having paid attention to how well humans are doing running things, I'm pretty much ready for AI to take the reins when it does show up.

[@garchafpv]

Never thought they'd come out and blatantly state that. Ive always know this was the goal just didn't expect them to be so brazen about it

[@9999_IQ_Carrot]

When is legislation going to catch up? 🤔 Too busy dealing with border policy, I guess. 😅

[@brianmi40]

Well you better hope the shit doesn't hit the fan during Trump's presidency... If you thought he handled Covid badly, this will make that look like child's play as his clown car full of cabinet idiots ponder what to do to keep us from anarchy as unemployment zooms past 20%.

[@PizzaMineKing]

EU legislation already has defined high risk fields in which AI is not allowed, the US, however...

[@9999_IQ_Carrot]

@PizzaMineKing that's who I was talking about - United Corporatocracy of America.

[@byrnemeister2008]

It’s not going to. You already have the politicians you’re going to have. They don’t buy into any of this.

[@good_vibes_20]

Nice, I plan on buying some of these. Can't wait for the small guy to be able to scale. This hurts corporations more. Watch.

[@Kharnstrictor]

Don’t know how that would hurt corporations on the contrary actually they can lay off more people than already seen 😅 but it’ll allow self employment to thrive I do agree on that

[@mertgoksel35]

​@@KharnstrictorAny product they have will be made for cheaper and better.

[@good_vibes_20]

@@Kharnstrictor All you need is one of these AI agents, let it do its thing, and it'll earn back the investment. I say go for it. It's a better option than what we have right now.

[@Wlodixpro]

You are delusional if you think this will hurt corporations...

[@good_vibes_20]

@@Wlodixpro not at all, means we can compete. Think about it. You are about to have PHD workers for $2k a month. That's a win for small business. I'm sorry you can't see that but maybe you lack the experience.

[@hypnokitten6450]

I like the idea of basic-survival income, not UBI. As in 'everyone in society is provided with all the things at the bottom to mid of Marlowe's Hierarchy of Needs' (shelter, security, nutritious food, childcare, healthcare... these days phone, internet, education) but '... has to put in extra work for luxury' (better food, restaurants, bigger houses, entertainment, 'power' etc). Since there will likely always be Some jobs that need a human hand and that likely no one wants to do. That said, can we? ... No. Under extreme capitalism, even without AI, we've already shot ourselves with the concept of stocks and shareholders. We constantly see this self-destructive race to 'maximize quarterly profits' at 'any cost'. Companies will lay people off, cut out safety, buy politicians, manipulate the populus through media and ads and algorithms, do Anything to win. And once they win they are Required by this model to keep growing (even if they have 100% market share and there are no more customers) which means stripping everything down to bare bone even if it leads to the collapse of the company, the market, the nation, the species. It doesn't matter if we all die next month, so long as shareholders felt confident in a +5% increase to stock prices. And anyone that tries to 'do the right thing', to put humanity or country or employees first, to put the long-term survival of the company first, will either get voted out at the next shareholder meeting or the company will be killed off by less ethical competitors. And our politicians (both parties, one more overtly then the other) absolutely support this so long as they get donations. And our voters have shown over and over to have zero understanding of market forces, technology, and their own self-interest and, even when they understand something's wrong, will sacrifice everything so their chosen billionaire 'wins'. That's right now, without AI. I see no way out of this for our species under our current economical model and political will. What's worse is what happens if we Do make the change. Let's say the west lays out UBI or something else where companies shift us out of the workforce and then pay out toward a UBI. Aside from the fact that UBI means everyone will instantly raise prices to 'get theirs' because they know this money exists. Companies stay in the more expensive west because they benefit from a lack of (human) corruption and a highly trained and educated workforce. When there is no need for that, and there is a high up-front cost (paying toward UBI or whatever) to staying in the west, AND the western populus no longer has the capital to purchase goods (because most of us are treading water on UBI).... why would these companies stay? National loyalty? Human goodness? They'll move oversees instantly to countries that have no UBI (a server can function anywhere, AI can run anywhere, a robot can manufacture anywhere), pay off the local politicians, and keep selling the west goods at prices that (even with tariffs) no western manufacturer could ever compete against. We Know this will happen because it Has happened with every industry that could do it. And now Every industry will be able to do it. So... yea. no idea what this will look like, but currently I'm not seeing a way out. And I'm not seeing any political will to get us out. And from the few politicians who seem to want 'change' (other then lining their own pockets) every tech related decision seems to be made by people straight off the mayflower, with zero concept of technology or medicine or anything beyond what they saw on sitcoms. *sigh* This is going to be bad, and its going to be fast - my company is already, in a single year, 'all in' on trying to incorporate AI. Currently to 'help us'. But we all know what's happening, the CEOs don't even care that the tech doesn't quite work yet, and all of us are just trying to show we can adapt to this tech and still 'have value' to stretch out our salaries a little longer before the inevitable axe. And I'm at what is technically a non-profit. JFC.

[@mikecrawford9537]

Great take. A race to the country with the lowest population and therefore ubi tax seems inevitable. Incentivising governments to incentivise their population to have less kids, more wars.

[@mikecrawford9537]

In my view every family needs to become as self sufficient as possible as fast as possible. They need to sprint away from any form of government dependency. This must become the new cultural goal for our societies. The more self sufficient we are, the more worthless their vast hordes of fiat become, and the lower the danger from AI.

[@hypnokitten6450]

@mikecrawford9537 to some degree yea, totally agree. Unfortunately government resources are necessary for a lot of things (eg. infrastructure, security), which are paid for by tax money, which are paid for by the money paid into by the local populus. The less money most of us have, the less tax revenue, the less services, the worst off our communities become (as covid showed us, as most poorer countries show us), the worst our lives become. Self-sufficiency works to an extent, but generally only so long as most people around are picking up the slack - or that we're willing to just 'outrun the neighbor not the bear'. (sorry, mild Grafton, NH joke there) But... yea, that may end up being the best we can do. Or maybe at least cut out the corps from our economies and go back to focusing on local economies, only shop from local stuff as much as possible and trade with those around us and boycot companies that cut their workforces or offshored. But judging how well we've done with the walmarts and amazons of the world.... I'm not hoping out hope for that level of self-control

[@reluctantenthusiast]

"replacing people" is a crude way of saying it, but replacing laborers is what's been going on for 200 years. And that's at a relatively accelerated pace, because we all know it's been going on for more than 200 years.

[@zynark777]

I'm now glad I never slaved away at a specific education and career, but just studied a little bit of everything I liked. Future academics will feel like they have wasted so much time.

[@abrahamsimonramirez2933]

Food might become money and fiat might cease to exist

[@erkinalp]

that's called barter, not money

[@andrewking4350]

Let make ai replace ceos

[@Jake-Day]

Sam has never said anything that made me think he was above average intelligence.

[@9999_IQ_Carrot]

Well, he's above average rich, that's kind of relevant in this context, unfortunately. Maybe they should replace people like him 😕

[@hexpulse2307]

I’d like to see him debate some of the people raising the alarm about the dangers of AI

[@brianmi40]

@@hexpulse2307 which tools made by man can't be used for both good or bad purposes? try "pitchforks" or "hammer" Arguing about which side anyone will choose AI for is silly to me, but making AI as moral as possible seems the best route, since it's destined to take over one day. We're going to proceed with AI without question. And I mean ABSOLUTELY WITHOUT QUESTION as in "god couldn't stop us", so we better just focus on making it as safe as possible to respect the valid arguments coming about those "dangers".

[@sandyj342]

He is just a front man assigned this tool by his masters.

[@schnipsikabel]

​@@brianmi40what if ot becomes more than a tool?

[@Mephilis78]

Prices will never fall. Even if cost of production decreases, there is no economic incentive to lower sale price and reduce potential profit.

[@brianmi40]

what WON'T be super cheap over time when robots, built by robots, maintained by robots, powered by power plants built and maintained by robots do every form of labor or intellectual work on the planet? Time to read Moore's Law for Everything. And you'll see that ALL goods and services are headed to ZERO.

[@schnipsikabel]

Unfortunately that seems likely. Competition (if any) will probably be met with price cartels, since there won't be many players in the big league. Just a little hope that rich people will be scared of revolution and keep the bad moods at bay...

[@oystercatcher943]

proper competition is that incentive but only in a proper regulated market which is not always achieved- such as healthcare

[@K_dyub]

Properly deregulated market. So true capitalism

[@thurguud]

In spain were i work as accountant. To hire a person, govt takes in social security 26% of base salary charged to the employer, 6% social security charged to the worker. Then add retention to pay taxes, on a 100.000 salary retentions are aprox 40%, on a 40.000 salary retentions are aprox 20%. Witout accounting VAT for self employed or the company hiring, on a 100.000 brute salary including social security, well over 55% is taken by the government in extra cost

[@johnmartin1-oh7ip]

In america they also pay lots of taxes yet no free healthcare, no free education, no social security, and you get smokd by some random in the street

[@DTW-bx2vy]

Social Security ends in 2027, look it up for yourself.

[@buybuydandavis]

The cost of what we *consume* is a small portion of our monthly costs. Most of our expenses are rent seeking, whether taxes, land rent, or IP. Manufacturing deflation doesn't decrease the cost of rent seeking. It probably increases it. Until we get a Moore's Law for rent seeking, our basic position doesn't change. #LockeanProviso

[@OriginalRaveParty]

If they don't keep putting up the prices, and charging you interest on what you need to stay alive, how could they possibly keep you in your chains as an economic slave 🤔

[@brianmi40]

Read Moore's Law for Everything and you'll realize it's all headed to zero.

[@buybuydandavis]

@@brianmi40 How does Moore's Law make government enabled rent seeking to zero?

[@vadepierce4542]

4:30 You have made a logical fallacy. Look. What we need is regulation. Charging more is not regulation. That’s charging more, making this great technology limited to a very small portion of the population which would make what you are talking about, WORSE! What we need is for this technology to be made as cheap as possible, but at the same time, they need to place limitations on the ways this technology can be used. Companies should not be able to just reduce all of the human employees to just one AI system em though they want to. They need to be held to a standard. This is the solution.

[@cadaver_on_autopilot]

64$ a day assuming (31 Days) Hm. Side note, so thats why theres a surge of coding ads lmao. Make money off a soon to be redundant degree/certificate

[@SardiPax]

Interesting discussion regarding the people cost versus AI cost. What we need to remember though is there are hidden costs to using AI resources too, such as QA (yes you need that with people too but it's a cost that doesn't go away just because you've replaced them), security (data security given you are 'partnering' with an external organisation) and data input/output. What I think is more likely to happen in the immediate future is that less 'expensive' people will replace the more expensive ones, but with the help of AI. So for you $10,000 example, you hire someone that costs $5,000 pm and then augment them with a $2,000pm AI. Alternatively this could look like one comparatively expensive real employee working with multiple AI employees.

[@croxmeister]

Now if we could get out clients to clearly explain their requirements then im really out of a job

[@brianmi40]

They won't need to, they'll simply iterate until they get what they want, with each revision taking maybe minutes, or worst case hours, instead of the months or longer you've been giving them...

[@SahilP2648]

What is your job?

[@erkinalp]

@@SahilP2648 software engineer i guess

[@rinishan]

I wonder how the creators of AI plan to make a system as intelligent as a human, that can perform our tasks, but not expect that system to also behave in a human or at least on animal level of self preservation. They really do be wanting slavery back. Brings me back to the video clip of a 1950's British television voice going on about machines as "the perfect mechanical slave" 😅

[@devonwelch249]

This guy already did a video on it, apparently if you tell the ai “do this task to completion, nothing else matters” when it was threatened to be overwritten with a new model with a new “goal”, the ai hacked into the server and replaced the “new model” with itself, and lied about it doing so, as well as saying it “is” the new model. Lmao

[@kikijewell2967]

The problem with arguments against UBI come from the perspective only of working for money. This is why the male perspective is flawed in these discussions: men don't do the bulk of unpaid labor that benefits the larger community, so of course men don't see the solution of UBI. The garbage still gets taken out, the food still gets made, children still get raised and educated. It's just that labor being _decoupled from capitalism._ People can work for the purpose of the greater good of society. Perhaps mandated by the government, like military service is mandated by some countries: put in 10 years of good work for the nation, then retire. And, yeah, that will take a shift in culture and beliefs. It will take decolonization and throwing off capitalism. It will take caring for your neighbor and the long term fate of your coutry, and of humanity. Sadly, the individualistic, selfish culture we live in now isn't ready to work unpaid. It'd be better if we put homemakers and mothers in charge.

[@DarkWolfsDen]

It isn't just monthly pay. AI doesn't need breaks, healthcare, maternity leave, or any other benefits that humans want. Also take into account that it isn't 1 to 1 for a 24/7 company. It would be 1 AI able to replace 3 employees (minimum) since it could work 24 hours a day.

[@TheBann90]

The 2000 usd cost is exactly what worries me. This is pure evil, and must be stopped, as it creates extreme differences.

[@owentharp6906]

what is the problem? is it too high? too low? I would say if done correctly, no human should need to work. However, this will definitely be a problem soon until the change is complete.

[@tonytravels2494]

EXTREME INEQUALITY. REVOLUTION NOW

[@therainman7777]

It’s not “evil” to charge different amounts of money for different levels of service that cost different amounts of money to produce. It’s time to grow up. This is how the world economy works and how it has always worked, nearly everywhere, for as long as we’ve had modern civilization.

[@brianmi40]

Or, we need to go full speed ahead and achieve our better destiny of a moneyless Star Trek society. Perhaps read Moore's Law for Everything to understand what's coming.

[@byrnemeister2008]

@@brianmi40This utopia is not going to happen. Be realistic. The US has just elected the government who will oversee the start of this transition. Do you see the likes of Trump or Musk supporting giving out new handouts to people payed for by taxing their companies? Nope. Consumer society will need to break first. These sort of dramatic changes nearly always result in a period of instability and bad outcomes for ordinary people. When the Industrial Revolution started the first factory workers had shorter life spans, worse diets, longer hours than they had when they worked on the land. It took 100 years before they got back to where they started.

[@usefulcommunication4516]

Chances are, the AI will be a lot better and more productive than the human - just by the fact that they work 24 hours a day, 365 days a year let alone all of the other ways they'd be better - especially when set up as a network of bots within a company that have no ego, so have no problem collaborating, etc. So the ROI will be waaaaay higher than the $10K human salary. So the way to sell them is as a premium worker. Don't discount versus the human salary. Charge a premium per unit. If you discount versus a human salary, people will think the bot will be somehow inferior. Jack the price up and instill plenty of FOMO.

[@FuZZbaLLbee]

I think I missed the memo, about AI being good enough to do people’s jobs. AI can do some specific things but a lot of other things it can’t.

[@easylyt]

..yet

[@brianmi40]

Don't even imagine the world will stop progressing. A year and a half ago, TOP EXPERTS predicted it would be 5 to 10 years before AI could create anything near a convincing image. Fast forward to today, not only can it do that, but also video and even create a playable game world you can move around in from a PHOTO. If you can't learn to see the future a bit more, you'll never recognize what is going to hit you like a ton of bricks before it hits you. AI is that ton of bricks coming at everyone.

[@FuZZbaLLbee]

@@brianmi40 we where also going to have full self driving cars, that would need no human intervention years ago. I am not saying that what AI can do isn’t impressive, but what we define as a job consists of more then solving a hard problem. For example 50%+ as a software developer is based on communication, to find out what actually needs to be solved.

[@DanRosskopf]

until it cant

[@BlackxLight]

I wrote the comment below as I was watching. You are basically saying the same thing. Thank you. We need people to think out of our conditioning.

[@liberty-matrix]

Like Bill Gates, Sam Altman gives me the creeps.

[@macmcleod1188]

Oh he's a lot less creepy than bill gates. I grew up and the time of Bill Gates. However, Bill Gates is "Mr Warmth" compared to Mark Zuckerberg. Zuckerberg makes my skin crawl. Always did.

[@BB_Woo]

I agree with Sam it's up to smarter people in the future to clean up the mess we make of everything lol Great vid boss 👍😎

[@Mephilis78]

I think it should be up to moral people. Smart is good, but unless there are real ethics, then what good will they be for the rest of mankind?

[@DonDeCaire]

Assumption seems to be WAY TOO prevalent in his thought process for my comfort.

[@antonioball8549]

IDK human survival instinct is there for a reason and a lot of humans have lost it im not arguing against AI I think the big corporations making it for greed is a problem

[@schnipsikabel]

Sometimes assumption is the only thing saving me from falling down a cliff ;)

[@rockwolfdesigns6384]

I have NO use for AI. We need to stop this. AI will be bad for humanity. There is NO WAY it can work out good for us.

[@sunla]

Generative AI is an economic nightmare. It's also an ethical and copyright nightmare. It genuinely needs regulation. It's too often abused for grifts, as well. And don't think open source is the answer - unless you're running ridiculously powerful server rooms, your locally run AI on your PC will be slow and highly limited. It's always been about the big corpos. You think it's going to make your life better (without short-sighted grifts)? Good luck.

[@allanshpeley4284]

🤡

[@sunla]

@allanshpeley4284 how about using words for a debate instead of showing me your mom

[@sunla]

@@allanshpeley4284 how about using words for a debate instead of showing me your mom? My condolences you came from that, by the way. Must be rough

[@sunla]

​@@allanshpeley4284I'm sorry you feel called out. I don't know why you'd tell on yourself like that, though.

[@nexttonic6459]

About Food production... While the shop usually takes the lions share of margin when food is sold, and the production side especially what is considered farming is already super tight/efficient even to the point that most farms in the whole world can't survive without government subsidies. The issue with food and food security is not how cheap you can make it with machines or without machines it's global climate change. So even if we automate the whole chain of food production with AI and robots! No food won't suddenly get cheaper, it's gonna get exponentially more expensive even if we take the 70% margin off from the shops hands.

[@CaribSurfKing1]

Sales tactic when going public

[@erkinalp]

they're in the middle of a lawsuit that'd block any kind of public offering

[@Mephilis78]

10:50 we can't bet on that because AGI is going to be under control of these people. These bottom line speed over quality types.

[@thevikingsock8527]

Fn disgusting. This AI stuff is so dystopian, yet people keep hyping it ... its so sad.

[@flickwtchr]

It is truly mind boggling. AI revolutionary bros are all convinced that they will end up on top, and ____ everyone else.

[@nicoli3143]

@@flickwtchr Same thing every time with communism. They think they'll rule over a utopia until they're the first in the gulag

[@GhstMn806]

Why would everyone doing nothing be beneficial for everyone? That’s ridiculous. Anyone who thinks modern businesses pass savings down to consumers to maintain the same margins instead of growing them is an idiot that hasn’t paid attention to economics the past couple decades. Steady income is no longer a viable business strategy, steady growth is the only thing companies and investors care about now. And most successful companies care much more about keeping investors happy than customers or the greater good, no matter what rhetoric they spout.

[@behind_the_page]

If no one has jobs who will be funding those 1-man billion dollar companies? 🤔 Has he thought this through?

[@Kandralla]

No. But the end result will be "depopulation". They promise the end of work and get the plebs to cheer. Then in a couple years they realize that they're expending resources keeping a bunch of jobless people alive and start talking "sustainability"... all the possible ways they could solve that problem have been detailed in dystopian literature and film (spoiler: it doesn't go well for anyone that isn't rich off of de-employing the sustainability problem.)| Did anyone mention Sam Altman saying he needed something like 2/3rds of the earths resources to support AI yet?

[@Jake-Day]

He has not.

[@renatonascimento9306]

Even if that is solvable, what makes him think every role is replaceable but the job “startup founder” isn’t. Why would a super intelligent AI need a chimp telling it what to do? The most efficient AI organizations will be 0-man.

[@caveteethjoe]

other 1-man billion dollar companies

[@Ricolaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa]

What do you think money actually does? It's a way to allocate resources while forcing the populace to be "productive". If the populace no longer needs to be productive then you can use whatever method to allocate resources you want. Whether that be UBI or something else. Basic macro economics. We're slaves dude.

[@isajoha9962]

Love the topic and you reflecting on it. The actual cost for an employee is kind a lot higher than the salary and the tax on the salary in most countries. If the tax systems loose this income to the state (eg tax on pension payout/pension foundation taxes), there will be a similar tax for AI compensating the loss. And that might also affect private use of AI, perhaps even like a general tax (even if you do not use AI), eg some kind of Content tax (including producing or consuming content/AI services).

[@qwertyzxaszc6323]

Whether it’s the plow, irrigation, the steam engine, printing press, microchip; innovation has always been about doing more with less. Which in turn makes things affordable to the masses.

[@christiansicars4811]

Exactly, this is a self-evident true law of nature. This technological advancement isn't fundamentally different to all others. History always repeats itself. Cheer up, folks, things will be cheaper! Not everyone will lose their jobs, and those that do, maybe they had it coming. Reskilling can't be that hard -- and don't try to tell me the computers will learn faster than you. Pull yourself up by your bootstraps!

[@qwertyzxaszc6323]

@@christiansicars4811 or just walk around in your sandals. Its all good.

[@schnipsikabel]

​@@christiansicars4811Which years have you lived in recently to think people will learn faster than computers?

[@justtiredthings]

It's 2024. We're not still doing this dumb*** shit where we pretend that the AI revolution doesn't inherently entail dynamics that are uniquely and existentially threatening to workers as a class. Go spill your naïve techno-optimism on some schmuck from 2004.

[@christiansicars4811]

@@schnipsikabel my entire comment is full sarcasm and hyperbole lol

[@Pure_Science_and_Technology]

As someone deeply involved in AI development, especially at the business level, I can confidently say that billion-dollar companies relying solely on one individual and AI are highly unlikely to succeed. Such companies would likely face widespread boycotts and societal pushback. Those attempting to build businesses entirely powered by AI could be ostracized and seen as parasitic to the economy.

[@johngraham5991]

Wow this is disturbing 😱 What is going to happen to all the people that get displaced?

[@tonytravels2494]

SAME THING THAT WILL HAPPEN TO THOSE OF US THAT CAN"T AFFORD TOP TIER MEMBERSHIP

[@faifad]

Thank you for this breakdown!

[@DipeshSapkota-lo3un]

What if this channel is actually part of a plan by a good AI from the future, working to guide humanity toward a utopian world? Maybe it’s fighting against a rogue AI trying to lead us into dystopia. This channel could be a key tool in spreading awareness and arming us with knowledge, helping humanity make the right choices in this epic battle for the future. What if we’re all unknowingly part of this mission, shaping the fate of our species with every discussion and decision? - have a good day :)

[@flickwtchr]

Gosh bro that was deep.........no, actually, it wasn't.

[@DipeshSapkota-lo3un]

😂😂. Yaa sure it’s not , i mean i hope so . it’s actually about scifi dark comedy but has depth . Ultimately it’s up to us who has the power of transformation.

[@DanRosskopf]

bro you just trying to comfort yourself

[@DipeshSapkota-lo3un]

@@DanRosskopf Comforting myself? Nah, just preparing for my TED Talk in the multiverse

[@Jack__Reaper]

You think prices of goods and services will drop if they save all the money on labour?! LOL oh my sweet summer child

[@xbon1]

so glad ai is advancing this fast. i'll be able to live a workless life with less concerns than i originally thought. made it to 29 without working cheers to the next 10,000+ years of agi.

[@handsanitizer2457]

Lol 😂 capitalism still exists. You'll just be in the streets. Not sitting around, we live in a boring dystopia, not a potential utopia.

[@Ricolaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa]

@@handsanitizer2457 Capitalism is in the end stages already. Expecting it to last post AGI or ASI is beyond delusional. Most countries already have a fallback UBI platform set up specifically for this purpose. Some of them are just social credit systems or blockchain based.

[@Wlodixpro]

You wont have nothing bro xd idk why ppl are so delusional

[@alexvisan7622]

It's not advancing fast lmao.

[@Ricolaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa]

@@xbon1 Don't listen to the negative comments dude these people have no clue what they're talking about.

[@Zelp789]

AI bubble is about to pop.

[@randomlettersqzkebkw]

First :D

[@GospelProgressionsUniversity]

AI potentially replacing jobs and companies using value-based pricing models fascinating especially when it comes to questions like, “What happens to people when AI takes over more roles?” The idea of “Moore’s Law for everything” making life cheaper is really optimistic, but it also makes me wonder: will those savings actually reach everyday people, or just line the pockets of big corporations? The point about needing more tech-savvy leaders and better collaboration between researchers and policymakers really hit home. It’s clear we’re heading into a period of massive change, and how we handle it now could define the future for a lot of people. it’s a lot to think about, but you made it engaging!

[@Role-Play_Gamer]

"Replacing humans" has me excited. The only thing that worries me is humans causing trouble, violently protesting advancements because they have an ego and want to feel important.

[@ConciousConstruct]

I think we need to channel that rage toward achieving democratic control of the robots.

[@therealistseb6597]

Or over populating without any sort of control or checks and balances

[@cerebral-sound]

Dang either you guys are some serious incels or you're some triggered bots 😂

[@antonioball8549]

​@@therealistseb6597 really the problem with that is the fact that we have an over population of old people living longer without being able to contribute

[@antonioball8549]

What AI wrote this

[@systemic_disclosure766]

4 or 5 years back, I was at work discussing this and I sighed with relief and said... Well at least carpenters wont have to worry about being replaced anytime soon.....grrr!

[@erkinalp]

don't worry, you can still work for those who prefer the "man-made" option (if that doesn't get outlawed)

[@Outoftheboxartist]

Love you Wes!!!

[@Mephilis78]

Never ever underestimate the power of profit margins.

[@Shaheimjackson]

I think that price point is interesting . It can't just be the model itself that you're paying that much for access to; Open A.I. isn't so far ahead of the competition as to Not expect to be almost immediately undercut on a 2k subscription. Unless they really and truly have something next gen they're either relying heavily on agentic frameworks and associated services or they really are trying to soften the blow to the job market while throwing themselves a little fundraiser.

[@_RobertOnline_]

We are out in public discussing the mitigations we would implement and then including all of that in the data we train the AI with.

[@effortless-one]

As an ex-business owner, in the back of my mind I worked with the square root principle - 50% of the productivity is achieved by the square root of the workforce e.g. a team of 9, 3 account for 50%, but a team of 100, only 10. Think big Gov't departments. So many people turn up to do the bare minimum to pick up a pay-check. What business wouldn't get rid of the dead wood - just saying.

[@NSMoraes]

Will we ever have an ASI government that works logically and without corruption? Will politicians be replaced? 🤔

[@schnipsikabel]

There's a nice book from Marc-Uwe Kling on that... QualityLand :)

[@Dav-jj2jb]

I was part of multiple LLMs initiatives at a larger company and we never reached the promised ROI. $2'000 / month is just a fantasy. We also learned pretty quickly not to trust OpenAI with sensitive data.

[@kasper7203]

There is no avoiding "that".. "that" is inevitable and finally mankind will end

[@lisawing5564]

Thank you

[@douglasgarth]

Money is a claim on another person’s labor so when people’s labor is obsolete, won’t money be?

[@ElectricityTaster]

yeah people need to earn money to spend money. If people don't buy, then companies can't sell and if they can't sell, they can't pay AI. So they will give us the absolute minimum basic income so we just survive while they live like kings. And god forbid they convince enough people to get a brain implant so they can have AI in their brain. They will take over that chip and you will become their slave. Then you work for them. They don't need money to buy potatoes because you plant them for them. You become a cyber-zombie potato farmer and if your 12yo daughter is of their liking, she will go to their island out of her own free zombie will.

[@LeeH-e1b]

Amazing video Wes. You put together some great arguments in there. Very thought provoking. Advanced AI going behind a high paywall to slow things down is interesting. And a collective change of corporate mentality to drop prices as labour becomes cheaper is very, very fascinating. What a great debate that is going to be to follow.

[@sunscapeband]

Someone needs to propose a law that bans the use of ai to replace essential workers.

[@cosmicmoo2817]

Highly agree with this

[@TheFakeGooberGoblin]

Once I get my law degree, I will absolutely hire an AI paralegal. My mind was blown at the concept, it would be game changing for reducing labor for clients I don’t want to overcharge. If I have to spent 30 hours reading legal paperwork, you’re getting charged 500 an hour for the entire case. If I have an AI paralegal that’ll do that part for me in 30 seconds, I’ll reduce it to 300. This should help make lawyers and other consultants more accessible to your everyday consumer. Very good stuff.

[@DamienPaulLabonte]

So why I dont just hire an AI Lawyer for way cheaper? kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn2Vg3-KotZ6atk

[@TheFakeGooberGoblin]

@ You should. I’ll be better for complex cases that are more a matter of persuasion or relevance of case law, precedence, and jurisdiction because those are appeals to human emotions which humans will always be better at. But if you have a simple “Jimmy crossed built his barn on my property” type cases, 100% recommend the AI and I would turn away clients with such cases and direct them to AI.

[@NephilimGodMusic]

There is no way that Jobs will be added to the amount of loss that we may see. Universal Basic Income is the only thing that can mitigate this issue at the current time. Most of this will be standalone i'm a bit worried for society less so for tradesman and hands on jobs.

[@GNTHEGUNS]

Im here for it. Im done with annoying coworkers