Sam Altman's WORLDCOIN Project Reveals The Next Stage... [SUPERCUT]

[@meowmeowmeow1243]

"Because we are so committed to privacy, we decided to track each and everyone of you"

[@Jacstaoisitio]

If you are born into this world it is normal. I know people that think having their picture taken will steal or corrupt their soul. Yeah, strange huh?

[@zxcaaq]

"mark of the beast"

[@georgemontgomery1892]

@@zxcaaq ugh

[@kthalas]

@@zxcaaquuuuu spooky

[@RichardHartness]

@@zxcaaq You know... I grew up conservative, Evangelical Christian and I've generally rejected the perception of "the end times" as it was taught by my parents and church. However... this almost feels like that picked up the Book of Revelation, studied modern Evangelical interpretations of that scripture and said... 'how do we actually do that?"

[@craigington73]

This is Orbwellian!

[@soonheaven]

George Orbwell was beyond his time.

[@David-z7n5y]

Best comment

[@zxcaaq]

"mark of the beast"

[@milesprowr]

@@zxcaaq well, since not everyone has eyes, which is obvious and they surely know it, there might be something else in the works for "inclusivity", so, then if you're against it, you'll be a superstitious bigot that doesn't wanna take part in society.

[@davidprice2182]

@@soonheaven Do you mean Georbe Orbwell?

[@ikotsus2448]

They are creating the problem and providing the "solution" at the same time.

[@matt0sai]

Lowkey best insight

[@zSion]

Just what they did with covid, it was probably a way to test compliance

[@lordjavathe3rd]

@@zSion I heard crazy compliance numbers for covid, but they also faked the election as I cannot believe Trump lost... It's just that everyone that I know voted for him, I mostly know poor people, but do wealthyier people vote? Eh, anyway, the win/lose ratio of 51/49 is such an "everybody is a winner, but no." load of crap. Not to detract from my point is that I don't think as many people signed up for the shot as they report.

[@karenreddy]

The mafia envies this one simple trick

[@andybaldman]

Profit!

[@djp2k9]

Anyone else getting weird dystopic vibe here?

[@MA_SK_ID]

Yup. I don’t disagree it is needed but also getting a tummy ache thinking that this is who is going to run it.

[@Steve-xh3by]

Yeah, I'm not allowing Sam Altman's Eye of Sauron anywhere near me.

[@KyleKabasares_PhD]

I did and I was there in person. Didn’t get a free Orb like I could have because no thanks

[@MA_SK_ID]

@@KyleKabasares_PhD did they mention what is the business model behind it? Who is paying for it?

[@DarrylMcGee]

@@MA_SK_IDmy guess is governments are paying, hence the presence of the Taiwan legislator.

[@XZaceX]

The idea of raising a generation of kids who are taught they need to gaze into an orb to prove they are human is beyond fucked up.

[@Scorpiove]

I was thinking the same thing, fuck that. I like AI but I reject this bullshit.

[@daniellivingstone7759]

It is the price that will be paid for the benefits of AGI which will include a UBI and a life of leisure

[@GGKazmenkov]

Sounds like a cult 🧐

[@kthalas]

And how do you prove that it is really you the one that is using the internet with current tech? Everyone knows this will be a problem, dont know if this is the solution, but the problem is real. Of course you could just interact with your community locally, and just leave your digital facet as problematic as it is

[@Scorpiove]

@@daniellivingstone7759 We give Corporations too much credit if we think they won't put up a fight against this. Even if they are employeeing mostly AI instead of people.

[@robertcartman3502]

They say "anonymus" and "privacy" a lot, but I only see the opposite

[@V3NQM69]

Oh yeah but it will be private and secure... private and secure to the owner of the data... guess who is that. Hint: not you or me. In the beginning, it might be. Until critical mass is hit. Then we get covid like situations with our overlords saying "the collective is more important than the individual". Let's hope ASI arrives fast and frees us from these tyrants.

[@KeiraR]

Orwellian double speak.

[@DerekSmit]

No you don't understand it, you need to scan your face and iris to become anonymous, because of reasons.... (yeah it's total BS)

[@zxcaaq]

"mark of the beast"

[@4l3dx]

What is the opposite? If I remember correctly, they have repositories on GitHub where they show the code, they say that the data is not stored, you're not linked to anything except the iris hash, and the orb can be purchased by anyone

[@kliersheed]

i can already see people in the future rediscovering these clips in some ancient data centers and analyzing them, wondering how people "of that time" couldnt see "it" coming.

[@chrishudson9525]

Assuming there are still people in the future that is...

[@nowhereman9407]

​@@chrishudson9525 we might not make it through November

[@markonfilms]

We'll wtf we gonna do just doom out? Be depressed and die? Let's at least try here lol. It's pretty dire but always has been. It's just that the dire is a bit more global by default.

[@TheRealUsername]

Centralized solutions are the default solutions, fingerprint scanners in most devices sold across the world, models trained on usage data to differentiate humans and digital agents. No need for Orb.

[@NathanIslesOfficial]

If they find this they will find social media

[@adg8269]

“…a space, a temple, a place to visit and get verified …” HOLY SHIT, it’s happening! And if you don’t comply, the AI gods will be ready and eager to [ insert nightmare ]

[@joshwarrior9491]

Kneel down to your AI crypto god

[@christopherd.winnan8701]

[ insert nightmare ] - An invitation from the local police station to come in for a drink of tea. ;-)

[@nowhereman9407]

Be scanned willingly now and be wealthy or wait until you are forced and be enslaved, already we are enslaved with zero privacy

[@jeanchindeko5477]

… if you don’t comply you cannot buy or sell goods and services! You’ll be out of the system.

[@BrianMosleyUK]

Tracked down by one of Eric Schmidt's drones?

[@horrorislander]

Did they mention how they're getting paid? I seem to have missed that. I did hear, several times, no transaction fees. Call me paranoid, but the deeper someone hides the costs, the surer I am that it's too expensive at any price.

[@petropzqi]

It's a crypto scam

[@attilapalmai1593]

cost is your total remaining freedom

[@nowhereman9407]

​​@@attilapalmai1593just your immortal sou, no big deal

[@daniellivingstone7759]

@@attilapalmai1593You are right but that freedom will be traded for sevurity by the majority who have expressed such a preference since the first centralised human civilisations emerged from hunter gatherer groups after the invention of agriculture

[@michaelnurse9089]

You get paid when you vote for Sam in 2028

[@ifi808]

Why do we have to prove we're human why don't we force ai's to prove they're silicone.

[@videomontaggenerator]

Bc In our current world humans have more rights then AI, so there if human is the standard, AI have no reasons to prove they are silicone

[@videomontaggenerator]

I really don't like the Orb, btw. Just answering the comment. This presentation is absolute bad way crazy

[@MikeyDavis]

The point is you’re trying to keep non humans out. Proving silicone would obviously be counterproductive.

[@dr.emmettbrown7183]

World-ID is the opposite of anonymity and privacy.

[@zxcaaq]

"mark of the beast"

[@frank254100]

​​@@zxcaaqpeople like you make the orb seem normal!!😂

[@UltraK420]

I have absolutely no reason to ever use this thing. They don't even fully explain what this shit is for. I don't need to "verify" I'm a human when I visit a damn coffee shop.

[@ultrasaiyan4283]

I don't believe you. You must be android. xd

[@Walexo45]

Yup. This is so weird.

[@tracy419]

It's for protecting yourself as AI and other forms of attack become the norm. If you do something online, this is intended to prove you are you. No idea if it's the best way or not, but the purpose is pretty easy to understand.

[@joshuamiller8533]

This can be useful for voting and for mitigating identity theft. But the risks associated with abuse are high. It needs oversight to regulate this tech to keep it from becoming 1984.

[@tradejolt9580]

And as I'm sure that you have considered, who oversees the overseers? The biggest problem that I see is that once an identity is given to a person that identity unit is seen as the ultimate measure.

[@eSKAone-]

Our new Orb. It's the newest Orb we ever made.

[@rolestream]

Ah this made me laugh. Yes. Our new orb. It's orbly. More orbly than our last orb!

[@maydaverave]

It's orbin time!

[@observingsystem]

New and improved, with extra freshness! 😄

[@Tesparg]

"Give us your government ID and passport but you'll remain totally anonymous." That makes no sense at all.

[@shiny_x3]

I think the fact that nearly all the comments are against it, and these are techy folks mostly, I can't imagine how much the average member of the public will freak out over this.

[@cesarsar31]

They are doing it gladly, since they are receiving worldcoin as "incentive"

[@AC-cg6mf]

They are really enthusiastic about rolling out the big brother society.

[@trueanarchy2543]

The digital prison is taking shape.

[@AngeloXification]

The prisoners will manage themselves

[@PuppetMasterdaath144]

if there is not a system to know if people in power are psychopaths then other systems are not moral

[@ThomasJDavis]

Fabricating a dilemma for which they provide you the solution.

[@DougieBarclay]

@@ThomasJDavis isn't that how big-pharma is so successful?

[@byrnemeister2008]

@@DougieBarclayNo. Mostly because US politicians are idiots and easily bought. Every other country negotiates prices as a whole country. The IS jas chosen to do it hospital by hospital or insurance company by insurance company. Crazy.

[@pandereodium]

10 min into the video and I still don't understand what that Orb is. I guess it is this way intentionally...

[@hectorhernandez7389]

Digital ID

[@Trahloc]

Looks like a digital version of a notary.

[@davidsuzukiispolpot]

Digital passport pretending to be anonymous.

[@Bullman85]

The Orb is good. Trust in the Orb.

[@5GTrevor]

@@Bullman85 Contemplate it even.

[@Jwoz7]

Thanks for bringing awareness to this Wes

[@ScentlessSun]

Geoffrey Hinton, Elon Musk, and Ilya Sutskever have all questioned Sam’s motives and integrity, then he drops this Orwellian nightmare. It’s time for people to wake up as to why so many key people have left OpenAI under his leadership. I really wanted to like the guy, and OpenAI to succeed but he needs to go if OpenAI is going to get its integrity back.

[@mrpicky1868]

i would take Elon out of any good list )) he is the same control freak and builds the same thing

[@TheNewOriginals450]

Hmm, I'm not completely convinced of their reasons for leaving. They've left Open AI but presumably still have their stock, to open a rival company, which as founders will make them almost overnight billionaires. They win both ways financially.

[@actellimQT]

​@mrpicky1868 we get that you got the 'Elon bad' signal, great job. That said, when people across the aisle agree it tends to strengthen an argument from authority, which to be fair isn't a valid logical approach.

[@byrnemeister2008]

Not sure any of these folks are to be trusted with regards to other peoples character. Character and trust for an individual shouldn’t really factor in to the evaluation of this project. The individuals WILL change. The motivations WILL change.

[@mrpicky1868]

@@actellimQT u are accusing me of having no opinion of my own(just out of your ss) while actually having non of your own. Elon is a classic psycho billionaire . the fact that he bullshits more then other and u fall for does not change what he is

[@keithmerrington9026]

"You get an Orb, She gets an Orb ... Everybody gets an Orb!!" All hail the Orb!

[@JohnLovell-FTW]

There can only be one. :)

[@mercmusic2836]

There's a Dr Who episode about how only orbs are the only thing left on a planet...

[@boldisorstefan9020]

@@JohnLovell-FTW and it's got the all seeying eye ffs! Sauron is happy!

[@observingsystem]

Haha yes, I was getting the infomercial vibe from the 90s, but yeah, you're right!

[@observingsystem]

@@boldisorstefan9020 The one digital device to rule them all! 😀

[@Laxobigging]

This is why I never trusted this dude. They created a hunger games-esque scenario in Japan a few years ago for people to wait in line to have their iris scanned.

[@lordjavathe3rd]

eh, I don't think it's his idea?!...

[@Laxobigging]

@@lordjavathe3rd eh, I think it is

[@lordjavathe3rd]

@@Laxobigging hey, I just watched the uncut version of the talk, this one is 30min and the other one is 45min, there is a difference. It sounds so much less synical in the longer version with no cuts. See for yourself.

[@Laxobigging]

@@lordjavathe3rd I will never trust a company that did what they have done, no matter how hard they try to rebrand it

[@handsomelyhung]

Sam changed his mind on making their A.I. Open so I don't trust him.

[@worldpeace9566]

Chat gpt 3 is open. No latest version can be open if opened company will make no profit can't buy latest thousands of gpu and data centers to make future version.

[@spiritusinfinitus]

​@@worldpeace9566You're given the dregs, mate, because you are a lowly peasant, scavenging in the mud. They control the pinnacle and you can't have it because they are the new Royalty and they are better than you. Beg for forgiveness, because you have sinned. See where these leads yet? 😅

[@inopsology5208]

​@@worldpeace9566 a "no profit" can make vast amounts of money, as long as they spend it all appropriately leaving: no profit. OpenAI is not that.

[@tracy419]

That's weird, considering Elon musk agreed they needed to go private in order to get the investment required to reach AGI, and most people who "don't trust" Altman seem to trust musk.

[@travisdopler289]

Correct!

[@markkennedy9767]

This is fucking nuts

[@monkeywrench1951]

I can see the southpark episode on the orb coming !

[@nowhereman9407]

Trey and Matt will nail it fur sure

[@pcread]

I saw it and immediately thought Portal 2

[@michaelnurse9089]

I can see Sam suing South Park shortly thereafter.

[@pcread]

@@michaelnurse9089 like that works... If SP can devastate $cientology, they're pretty much immune to anything.

[@mercmusic2836]

Dr Who already made it years ago... Dr Who will save us🎉 kzbin.info/www/bejne/l6Okm5WJoLB5Y7Msi=Mj7khtsv1t2DFOaX

[@neuralnetsart]

How long before Worldcoin is changed from non-profit to profit?

[@ayaneagano6059]

It’s already for-profit if you look online

[@rudynunez6415]

Can I get a 'hell no!"?

[@LuciousKage]

China 2.0 ? Am i the only one who has 1984 book vibes ?

[@christopherd.winnan8701]

I wish one of the AI KZbinrs would do a deep dive comparing Worldchat to Wechat. Have you seen anything similar?

[@boldisorstefan9020]

Fortunately, you are not alone!

[@stevewall7044]

This is creepy, absolutely SAY NO TO THIS. Also, they are using cultiah baby speak, "inviting inclusive".

[@spiritusinfinitus]

Look up Tarvuism. This has the same vibe

[@lordjavathe3rd]

could you elaborate?

[@VperVendetta1992]

"A bit of a temple, a place to get verified"

[@boldisorstefan9020]

We, as a collective, are already struggling to resist this onslaught. They've taken over our insular cortex, parietal cortex, anterior cingulate cortex, prefrontal cortex-every crucial part of our minds is in their grip! Yes, this could be undone, but it demands a response as swift and forceful as their relentless attack is against our very humanity!

[@rezleader]

I literally looked at my computer to see if it was 4/1, April Fools. Holy crap.

[@5GTrevor]

you literally did that huh

[@pkgill11]

I did too!!!!😂

[@TheRealUsername]

Don't worry, this Orb thing is a joke

[@TheNewOriginals450]

@@5GTrevor 🤣

[@wendlefluff]

I thought poor Wes had been taken over by some crypto scam.

[@GudLawdHammercy]

Some sinister is up Sam's sleeve

[@hectorhernandez7389]

Like what

[@davidsuzukiispolpot]

There was a spook on his board. Spooks always either create these systems to be Trojan horses or have back doors with huge vulnerabilities. This is going to be the back door for universal digital ID and control of us and possibly even digital currency.

[@TurdFergusen]

@@hectorhernandez7389pick a post apocalyptic dystopian futuristic movie and its all now more possible than it was 4 years ago

[@musiccitybird]

@@hectorhernandez7389ask the ex board members. 👀

[@MarkoKraguljac]

Uncle Sam's?

[@Haveuseenmyjetpack]

Alex Jones is about to have an aneurysm

[@Jacstaoisitio]

Ha ha ha... You think?

[@StaticFreq]

10 minutes in and i have zero clue WTF this stupid thing is...

[@spiritusinfinitus]

It's a digital prison that they want you to willingly submit to living within.

[@alertbri]

I like his description of exponential curves looking horizontal looking backwards and vertical looking forwards. Reminds me of a black hole event horizon.

[@remelin75]

Who the hell saw Gantz and thought "Let's make that!" !?!?

[@gamesndrinks]

As a Gantz reader. I totally understand. It's so strange

[@naytron210]

We'll fight this til the end.

[@qi_kayon]

✊ yep

[@ophelfromhell7748]

I think they made this just in case in the future.There is robots that look and act identical to humans.The Alan Turing part was as some kind of giveaway.It's a shame it got cut off in the video.

[@klfrost7]

How do you update your human image if you have something life-changing happen to your face or body that changes how you look? How does the human ID get updated?

[@HectorSs-qs4wu]

Iris

[@Lando-l2n]

Yeah. Or like even if you are born without eyes or something. I guess you don't matter to the "network". This whole thing is super creepy, especially the guy talking about "it's like a templ".

[@felipedigre]

I still don't understand why we would even want it

[@j2csharp]

Knowing that the person you're talking to on Zoom in the future may be a little more challenging with Deep Fakes. World has a use case, but it does seem very narrow today. If I recall, it's supposed to help with UBI too but to what degree? And how is it funded? Still a mystery.

[@FutureIsBetterThanThe80s]

Wolfie/Max could have survived… if they have had an Orb (Terminator 1)

[@maydaverave]

In the near future proving you are human and a particular human identity will be a challenge.

[@alexg9790]

And now we know why the NSA is part of the OpenAI board.

[@glennm7086]

This is really similar to something Intel did back in the 90s. Processor serial number - Unique identifier for every processor on the Internet, very traceable. It would have helped fight cybercrime. This was overwhelmingly rejected based on privacy. This was a case study at Intel. It was removed from the silicon.

[@charsarsis]

Oh I think I've heard of this. It sounds like the start of every single dark dystopian future story featuring a mega corporation.

[@seanharbinger]

Introducing a conversation about trust and combining it with 2012’s crypto wallet features is low-key hilarious in a Terrifier 4: Mallrats by Meta kinda way.

[@jpdominator]

I wonder if this WorldApp gives info to the IRS, or if the NSA just has access to all of the blocks.

[@imusiccollection]

Of course that's what it's for plus China 2.0

[@gpsx]

Wes can you tell us what this is for. I have no idea.

[@infrared5729]

Some guy with a Worldcoin orb showed up at Mining Disrupt - a Bitcoin mining maxi event - in Miami in 2023. Bravest - or dumbest - hire ever coming into the convention trade show, orb in hand, facing down a bunch of privacy-obsessed Bitcoiners.

[@leszjacobs1637]

Research every one of the speakers and their affiliates. Something smells fishy here. There is no such thing as trust with big corporations. Is this "the mark" …

[@Jacstaoisitio]

Mark of progress...

[@puppetmurder]

Another failed "mark" yes. These guys are far to disconnected to understand the peoples needs and wants and will never attain the following that they so desire.

[@imusiccollection]

Yes the mark of the beast

[@puppetmurder]

@@imusiccollection No its not! 😅 look at history and you'll see how many failed attempts there are at making the mark. Or believe it if you want and live in fear. /shrug.

[@frank254100]

Ten if the talking donkey didn't tell you that shit was B.S.. the beast is a joke!!

[@Eliphasleviathan93]

A Temple you say...

[@TheGreatestJuJu]

Exactly! WTF! “It’s a bit of a temple” is part of a pre-written speech about a product that’s already going to be riding the line between acceptable and creepy. This just shows you that they are ready to worship at the feet of an AGI. It’s company rhetoric. 5:55

[@StaticFreq]

​@@TheGreatestJuJuit's convenient!!!! 🤦‍♀️

[@StaticFreq]

I'm thinking of narrow gateways....

[@MA_SK_ID]

@@Eliphasleviathan93 I am sure that dude is getting a stripping down from PR/marketing right now. Of all the word choices “temple” does not exactly dissuade fears. I wonder if it is a language barrier issue and he meant peaceful like a spa (still kind of creepy).

[@WesTheWizard]

Worldcoin is the mark of the beast. I know Bible prophecy's not that popular these days but it's seriously all starting to come together with this guy. His name literally adds up to 666 to boot

[@TheAIExplorer-o5j]

Shoutout for your creativity at 14:20 ! You brought something unique to the table.

[@theofriedrichwolf7644]

This is 1000% not going to work, it’s not how behaviour patterns are implemented in society’s

[@joythought]

Probably true. The concept behind it is similar to credentialing in emails that never took off. People have lived with unsecure emails for decades because that fits the pattern of human use: thoughtlessness. It is easy to ignore the fact that we're going to keep on getting attacked by identity theft due to all these apps etc that can impersonate us perfectly. Actually in an open, trustless, distributed network like the web something like a secure protocol for identity is needed but I expect adoption can be really low because people assume that this is somehow an ID system that's got some sort of conspiracy behind it. Just look at the dumb comments. So yeah this will fail and what do we get instead? Government regulation, bank control, etc. Humans think this is dystopian when what they're gonna get is more dystopian...

[@marko_z_bogdanca]

This will work because they will make people beg for money first. Crisis, wars, etc. And you will run to an orb to be able to buy a milk formula for your child.

[@phen-themoogle7651]

If they offer free money or UBI for people to be scanned, it will work. Just strange in the video they didn’t seem to mention about that… I thought they mentioned it a year or two ago that the purpose of this orb is to prove you’re human so you can collect money when AI takes over. They don’t want people to panic so maybe they are much more careful 🤔 There’s already several million people registered with it.

[@mackroscopik]

You all have no idea that worldcoin is the US Govt CBDC currency. All your "money" in the bank will be traded by the bank for this coin. This will force you to verify just so that you can spend your own money

[@Rollthered]

I hate how the orb shows people using their phones, I haven't owned a cellphone in 18 years and I also ask the important question of "what about the amish"?? "what about the people intentionally using dumbphones"?? This is terrible, losing your identity because you simply choose not to verify with this thing.

[@StaticFreq]

Easy , simple, safe, reliable.... And FREE!!! Yeah. You lost me at, easy. GFY

[@christopherd.winnan8701]

Only obedient consumers are encouraged to verify. Everybody else will have to be coerced in using social credit.

[@jynxxnerd]

Theyre expendable, not to worry

[@Nosho-fc5xm]

They're expendable so nobody really cares. Get with the times or get left behind, has always been the case with humanity.

[@TheRealUsername]

I Iike this, the bias of binary choice - it's either this or nothing - well, Apple and Google have been working on a new kind of cookie capable of detecting physical authentication through the used device, while bots and their sophisticated version "AI agents" will be fully virtual. Basically, this worldcoin thing is superfluous and unnecessary, and the fact that they went to straight up iris data collection is questionable, fingerprint scanners in most devices sold across the world are already enough.

[@tft_heart]

I don't understand what is going on here? What is the use case? Example?

[@phen-themoogle7651]

Since they mention to prove you’re human, to prevent AI or hackers from taking your identity in the future. I think AI will get smarter and they need more ways to protect humans as this technology improves. Also since it has value attached it could be a UBI or system for humans that can’t work anymore when AI takes all jobs. We need a way of getting paid or surviving. There’s already a few million people registered with this. I’m not, as I don’t see it super urgent and there might be better systems implemented but I might register only when people start to get paid for it. But idk , I’ll probably wait until they reach 100x more people first and see how it plays out in a year or two.

[@inopsology5208]

Altman wants to know everything about everyone. Then charge people to query an attribute about you. E.g. you get orb scanned, fill in a witnessed notarized questionnaire. Go to a liquor store, show your world ID. Store sends details of your visit to Altman, with question "is worldid(you)>21?", altman returns yes or no. Depending on answer you can or cannot buy.

[@tft_heart]

@@inopsology5208 i like your explanation, thanks. but that is one part, what does it have to do with separating humans from ai agents?

[@imusiccollection]

It's all for global governance

[@InQubuz]

If you want a photo of my IRIS I can just use my smart phone cam

[@jpdominator]

Passports and state ID are not about verifying age or that you’re a citizen of a specific country. They’re used to verify WHO you are. Providing credentials of someone that owns a house is not enough to sell their house. Their face needs to match their credentials to verify their identity.

[@TheGreatestJuJu]

You will own nothing and be happy.

[@christopherd.winnan8701]

Getting scarily close to the first part already.

[@-taz-]

Well, half right.

[@travisdopler289]

And eat bugs and be happier yet

[@pardonwhat]

The eye of Sauron

[@Jacstaoisitio]

Wait , what? The orb? 😅 It's incredibly beautiful peaceful...? They want to watch us like in China... 🎉

[@RaitisPetrovs-nb9kz]

Literally my first thought

[@RaitisPetrovs-nb9kz]

The logo

[@adampenbrook5751]

The Eye of Sam Altman lmao.

[@Parzival-i3x]

This is the most credible way to implement UBI today.

[@spiritusinfinitus]

UBI is impossible. All it does is shift zero and replace it with whatever the amount of UBI is. The economy acts like a sponge to absorb the prices of goods and services, so whatever the amount of UBI is it will soon be equivalent to what was previously zero. It is a trick.

[@lordjavathe3rd]

It's a way to pressure people into getting a vacination. This is a combination of AI and Vaccination like in the movie Vexille: watch the movie here -> hianime.to/watch/vexille-3781?ep=94631

[@imusiccollection]

China 2.0

[@Parzival-i3x]

@@imusiccollection USA 2.0

[@michaelluger2127]

Warning: "may suddenly accelerate to dangerous speeds" and "If Happy Fun Ball begins to smoke, seek shelter and cover head." Users were also warned, "Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball."

[@imusiccollection]

😅

[@FlintStone-c3s]

Damn, I just realized it is a Voight-Kampff test. What happens when it says you are not human?

[@charliekelland7564]

Retirement

[@Nazgarn]

they send a blade runner out

[@claursen1]

Always know that when someone says 'privacy', 'decentralized' etc. doesn't mean it's true. it could be true. But it could also be a primer/programming to make you think it's true, while it's not.

[@Matt-Banham]

People are gonna hate on this because privacy. But pretty soon they'll realise anyone can fake their identity down to the face, and voice and the ONLY way to verify a person is real is a unique on-chain signature. You might not like it but this is essential to future proof your identity from AI.

[@justtiredthings]

The problem is real. The "solution" is laughable bull****. Pure theater.

[@joythought]

​​​​@@justtiredthings maybe but the idea of an ID protocol is good. If it can be used by people to credential themselves without having to rely on government credentials that's great. If it's actually secure and it can keep out bad actors from spoofing other people then it's actually really impressive. If it can't do that then it's going to be worse than useless. But the way these guys did it from the start with the orb was just weird. And the designer talking about the temple Vibe was really not helping their case.

[@justtiredthings]

@@joythought I'm an anarchist. I'd be happy to see more solutions for identity and reputation emerge that don't depend upon the state. But doing it programmatically with biometric data on the blockchain is the most moronic security regime I've ever head of. This dumb*** idea alighted on my stupid noggin back in the heady crypto days before I quickly realized it's completely unworkable. The fact that these reasonably intelligent tech chieftains are pretending to believe otherwise is extremely concerning

[@byrnemeister2008]

Hardware tokens are another solution. I have one from my bank as an example. If I want to transfer large amounts I need to find it and type in authentication keys it displays. Generated by hashing a code on my bank card chip. Been around for a decade.

[@tellesu]

You're going to learn what people learned with TOR. It doesn't matter what is under the hood if you control the entry and exit points.

[@schrodingerscat3912]

My dad yells at me about the fact I don't have kids. What kind of world am I bringing a child into?

[@Dina_tankar_mina_ord]

Im not sure what to make of this. It gives Kickstarter scam vibes, but I dont want to scream 1984 before I really get what this is for. And I dont. what is the point of the identification thingy. Why do I need it?

[@justtiredthings]

Trust your gut on this one. They're trying to fool morons. Makes absolutely no sense as a method to secure unique identity.

[@jachymfibir]

If someone makes an AI that is undistinguisable from a real human with a laptop - they can make billion AIs running in parallel, attacking websites, influencing public discussions, scamming, etc. Then it will be useful to be able to prove that you're human on some webs, without e.g. needing to send all your passport data.

[@justtiredthings]

@jachymfibir that doesn't mean their solution is a remotely good one. They're way too late, anyway. What you're talking about will be possible within a year

[@BartOfBxl]

So they are basically trying to create their own version of WeChat, which encompasses everything else, but let's see if it's really decentralized

[@BartOfBxl]

chat gpt " Yes, the World project shares similarities with platforms like WeChat in its aim to integrate multiple services-digital identity, financial tools, and communication-into one ecosystem. However, there are key differences: Decentralization: Unlike WeChat, which is a centralized app run by Tencent and controlled by a single entity, World is designed to operate on decentralized blockchain technology. The World Chain (an Ethereum Layer-2 network) underpins the system, theoretically making it more secure, resilient, and less susceptible to control by governments or companies​ Privacy: World emphasizes privacy-preserving tools, like the World ID, which allow users to verify their identity without sharing personal information like names or email addresses. The focus is on biometric verification through their Orb device, and they claim to limit data collection, unlike centralized platforms that gather extensive personal data​ Global Inclusivity: World aims to create a globally accessible financial and identity system, which is especially relevant in regions without access to traditional banking or identification systems. This goal aligns more with blockchain’s ethos of decentralized access to financial services, compared to a closed, national ecosystem like WeChat​ However, some critics argue that while World aims to be decentralized, the reliance on biometric data and centralized control of Orbs raises concerns about the actual degree of decentralization and privacy​ "

[@N7Tonik]

social credit score coming next probably then ...

[@BezBog]

This is dystopian AF…

[@Rasterized1]

Can someone explain what the benefit is to the consumer for doing this?

[@VioFax]

To prove you are a real human.

[@TANKE777]

Minority report + Portal = worldcoin

[@keithmerrington9026]

Were you not listening? It's just called "World" now. Dystopia averted.

[@andrewowens5653]

They're building a protocol -- are those just like the Protocols of the Elders of Zion?

[@urbanlivingfilms4469]

I see all the comments and all I see is negativity but the question is why aren’t you building if you have something better for humanity.,we are one organism and we should collaborate with each other not the opposite that’s the only way to move forward

[@ClitGPT]

Is your mommy ready for collaborations?

[@urbanlivingfilms4469]

@@ClitGPT 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@PaulthePhilosopher2]

Identification is inherently a concept that arises in a legal context of interactions with civil or criminal law enforcement. Show ID to vote , travel, claim an inheritance, present yourself before a judge, etc. No instrument offered privately will be trusted in that context. This product will always be partly redundant until it is taken over or nationalized by some government.

[@JosephCarven]

Yeah, and why do I need to verify?

[@jaminunit]

The whole time, it's not a company but a protocol, and then at the end, the leader says, "We as a company." So which one is it?

[@AI-Wire]

AI: Hell yes. WorldCoin: Hell no.

[@KevKlopper]

What's the alternative? Money was always a representation of service and goods. Ai will produce most service and goods in a few years.

[@dr.emmettbrown7183]

@@KevKlopper Real money is a good not a representation of service and goods. AI will not create gold out of thin air.

[@GGKazmenkov]

Why is gold so valuable to you?

[@qAidleX]

This

[@dr.emmettbrown7183]

@@GGKazmenkov Why are central banks around the world hoarding gold?

[@aresaurelian]

We can do identification in many ways, it is optional. Some people do not want to be identified, use world services, or get immediate support when needed. Keeping freedom of choice open, with as few disadvantages compared to others, is a challenge to facilitate. But it can be done. Ponder using World ID before going on a journey, visiting another world. I think you may appreciate the convenience and comfort this will provide. Any individual sentient being, conscious or not, should be capable of leaving the World ID community again, once deemed no longer needed. Integrity, privacy, security, accessibility, options, liberty, duty, convenience, comfort, and excitement - all these must be available by default.

[@Jacstaoisitio]

I wonder if Bill Gates, Larry Fink and George Soros would agree with you

[@Trahloc]

"World Chat" available to anyone who is willing to never say something the powers that be don't like.

[@1mm0rtaldreads]

F everything about this . This is big brother x100000 screw this

[@justtiredthings]

This idea sucks ass but not for the reasons you think. They would argue that they're taking identification out of the hands of the government. But it's such a stupid, implausible solution that it's clear that they're just lying to people. Which is truly scary given what power Altman et al. are wielding. It puts the lie to all of their bull****ing about their concern for humanity. They know their tech is dangerous to *us*. They don't care, and they don't want us to know thny don't care. It's terrifying.

[@kozepz]

Reminds me of The Orb's 'A huge ever growing pulsating brain that rules from the centre of the ultraworld' which I like but this is more of "A Global Ever-Scanning Orb That Verifies from the Heart of Digital Identity"

[@RussellDent]

How are they monetizing this? That is the main question that people should be asking themselves when they choose to opt in to this. Something smells off here

[@justtiredthings]

I think it's literally just theater to distract from the Pandora's box they're opening with AI tech. The idea of securing peoples' identity for EVERYTHING in a decentralized, programmatic way with iris scans is absolutely braindead. 1) eyes can be gouged out--how are you going to redress the life-ending problems of people this system fails if it's literally impossible for human judgment to intervene on the system??, 2) any biometric data can be faked. You think people won't be counterfeiting irises to stack up their decentralized UBI payments?? Utter and total nonsense.

[@burninator9000]

It’s called bait and switch

[@domenicorutigliano9717]

omg now i get it..... you need to identify to get the UBI

[@crypto__.]

So before having a zoom call, we should go to a "temple" with an orb to get verified we're a human? :D

[@qi_kayon]

don’t forget to worship!

[@Danoman812]

This is BAD!! Been seeing this direction (and others) going this same direction last year. This happens and everything literally changes. smh

[@Mirus-i]

Thank you Wes for putting together these excerpts from the launch. Not sure what to think of this. My first concern is if they are planning for post quantum encryption. And for that matter, since Quantum computing is not officially here, can anyone really plan for post quantum encryption? And my impression with Sam and OpenAi is that they are becoming heavily embedded with our US government, National Security, etc. (former head of DARPA on the OpenAi board and OpenAi needing to demo advancements to the Fed’s), so just how decentralized and anonymous will this really be?

[@Nemosaur]

"Hi nice to meet you. We are gonna need you to prove that you are human" Jokes aside, nobody asked for any of this. If you are not sure if the person you are talking to, there are secret questions you can ask. Something like where did we go for lunch last lunch break? These guys need to go ask people REAL PRACTICAL problems that need to be solved, not some imaginary made-up scenarios. Gosh, Silicon Valley can be so disconnected.

[@olmgaijin9476]

I love that this is being sold as a feature; I wonder if they know it wasn't their idea and the purpose it serves...

[@gani2an1]

This must be stopped ..... people will blindly accept these dumb orbs?

[@seanknowles7987]

You are right..Keep talknig against them

[@FlintStone-c3s]

The AO's, AntiOrbs will be targeted.

[@phen-themoogle7651]

Several million already accepted them and scanned themselves. It’s double-edged. On the one hand you can prove you are human to protect yourself against AI stealing your identity in the future (AI will no doubt get better at deception and people using it as well), and since it’s attached to digital monetary system/s it makes it easy to distribute a UBI to people that won’t be able to work when machines take 99-100% of jobs. For those two reasons it’s appealing. On the other hand, it’s much easier to have your data manipulated by their company and advanced AI might target you on purpose because they have the most advanced AI to begin with 😂 and you’ll be in their system. But all of our data is already in some database somewhere and AI could already hack it probably or it’ll be breached much easier as technology improves. If this is the only solution, that would be interesting if it plays out to being a good thing, as strange as it looks. After watching Ex Machina , you’ll understand how important it is to have protection against cunning AI entities. That movie really changed how I view what’s to come.

[@savesoil7814]

My only question is, why the rush? The problems are not unending, all it needs is good advertizing and allowing enthusiastic people have their try.

[@AI-Wire]

Sam Altman is a dystopian archvillain

[@WesTheWizard]

Quite possibly the Antichrist

[@lordjavathe3rd]

I just heard him talking about exponential curves, that's it. I honestly liked the guy, maybe someone is twissting his arm.

[@JustinLietz]

I do NOT trust that decentralized part. OpenAI originally was meant to be decentralized, and now they've recently gone closed.

[@TheExodusLost]

I had a nightmare about Sam Altman last night, he was tight with my dad who’s an engineer and I came over to his house and he gave me a hug and shit…like we were family friends. Then, when I tried to leave, he blocked my car and then a police officer was there next to him and I guess I got arrested and the dream ended. Super super weird lmaoooooo

[@VperVendetta1992]

Great dream, your subconscious knows what Sam Altman actually is. A snake, first gifting humanity with an awesome new toy, and then using that toy to imprison them and control everything.

[@MrRandomPlays_1987]

6:49 - Did I hear it correctly? "100 trillion operations per second" - wth? I cannot believe we've reached such insane amounts of calculations per just one second, it's unreal how advanced tech already is, can't even imagine how far AI would take all tech further down the road, it's insanity.

[@TheGreatestJuJu]

Ironic that Musk started the dystopian future he was trying to avoid.

[@Eliotthib]

To be fair he's trying to make the world more dystopic atm. But that is quite ironic.

[@TurdFergusen]

musk cofounded and literally tried to make openai open, he is actually fighting this openai bs and trying to counter it, what are you doing about it?

[@TurdFergusen]

you think china having the advantage will be good for you? lol clown logic

[@skorpiongamer9493]

If you can't stop it, join it

[@soonheaven]

Slimy Eel is one of them, not us, the people. He is a billionaire.

[@bobybrimm5202]

It will be called World. Love it when techbros come up with revolutionary new ideas that have been around since forever.

[@boblep0nge927]

7:40 bruh! why would i need to go see an "orb" totally not manage by 3 letter agency to go get my friking coffee in the morning! nah bro im good!

[@VioFax]

Your kids will though.

[@zalzalahbuttsaab]

There's an old saying: "Cross bridges when you come to them".

[@michaelmckinley-good7487]

For those who believe… ‘Mark of the Beast’ kind of slaps you in the face 👀😳🥺

[@VioFax]

I'm not even religious but it looks like they studied the revelations and said "lets make this happen. How do we do this?" Its really annoying to people stuck in the crossfire of this ancient parental argument, called religion... It doesn't NEED to happen but were following it almost as if we have no free will at all.. Like a "script- ure"... I guess... Humans ARE automotons...

[@essentialsound3462]

It is not about Privacy, it is about Power.

[@HeinzBrasch]

Valid idea, unfortunately motivated from a technological / monetary rather than a humanitarian perspective. What is the underlying motivation? Is the world ready for this? Furthermore, I have concerns about putting the power over a digital human central registry in the hands of Altman, who has just co-decided to turn openAI into a commercial enterprise or a startup that has commercial interests.

[@dwylhq874]

Private company with opaque business model harvesting biometric personal data en masse… what could possibly go wrong? 😬

[@tpc6236]

Sam Altman really a Supervillain haha

[@ansonphong]

👀 He has appeared as a supervillain in a massive orb temple in my dream several months ago.