West New Jersey and The Quaker Exodus (1675-1688)

[@stevenwilgus5422]

I was born and raised in Woodbury. The Friends Meeting House has a preeminent location in the city.The Woodbury Friends’ Meeting house was built in two stages, in 1715 and 1785. The meetinghouse has served Quakers in Woodbury since its construction, and stands as a reminder of the town’s Quaker founding in 1683 by Henry Wood. For the town’s first 100 years, it existed mainly as a rural, farming community. The British, led by General Cornwallis, camped in Woodbury during the Revolutionary War and used the Meetinghouse as a barracks and a field hospital.

[@Eian1969]

This is truly an underrated podcast series. Thank you for continuing to make these incredible and informative videos !

[@theotherstatesofamericahis5212]

Thank you!

[@tdowning61]

Interesting and factual. Thank you for creating this. As a native West Jerseyan, I appreciate what you've put together here.

[@theotherstatesofamericahis5212]

@@tdowning61 Do you think there is still a cultural divide between east and west?

[@phillyphilly2095]

It's more conceived as north vs south

[@theotherstatesofamericahis5212]

@@phillyphilly2095 I can see that

[@--harry_]

I agree North and South Jersey.

[@jeremybear573]

As someone with Quaker blood flowing through my veins, I appreciate any information that teaches me about the history of the Quakers!!! Thank you

[@charlesvigneron565]

I've read 'The History of New Jersey' Samuel Smith, 1765, several times the last 15 years. Samuel Jennings, Lt. Governor, who signed the constitution of West New Jersey on 25 November 1681, is one of my paternal ancestors. You've done a good job & I'll be subscribing. Speaker Samuel Jennings representing both the New Jersey & New York Assemblies delivered The Remonstrance to Lord Cornbury on 8 May 1707. He concluded with- "And we cannot but be uneasy, when we find by these new methods of government, our liberties and properties so much shaken, that no man can say he is master of either, but holds as tenant by courtesy and at will, and may be stripped of them at pleasure. Liberty is too valuable a thing to be easily parted with, and when such mean inducements procure such violent endeavors to tear it from us, we must take leave to say, they have neither heads, hearts, nor souls, that are not moved by the miseries of their country, and are not forward with their utmost power, lawfully to redress them.” Smith's History of New Jersey, 1765, Chapter XV, p. 295.

[@2660mh]

About 1973, stayed at Berkeley Carteret hotel in Asbury Park and seemed like a funny name. Now I know why ! Thanks!

[@texasRoofDoctor]

Just found your channel and have been mowing through French Florida. This one was the first for me. There was just the perfect amount of Quaker in the mix. Keep up the great work.

[@theotherstatesofamericahis5212]

@@texasRoofDoctor thank you, I find myself talking about Quakers a lot recently, I think I have a vitamin deficiency, it makes for odd dinner talk.

[@densnow4816]

I am a descendant of a William Snowden who was among the Quakers to first arrive in Burlington, WNJ. Love this history!

[@phillyphilly2095]

I was born in Salem County and lived there until I was 12. My NJ ancestors go way back. Sometimes you will see someone wearing a t-shirt that says "South Jersey. The 51st state." Fun fact: a bunch of New Englanders migrated to Cumberland County in the 1680s.

[@PatAudreyK]

I like the t-shirt that says I'm a New Jersey Tomato

[@christopherkraemer4023]

born and raised in medford nj and quakerism has such a huge role in town history. There was a ecclesiastical schism and the local congregation split into 2 with both meeting houses still standing

[@genethrowe8205]

I’m a Quaker whose ancestors settled in West Jersey and started Somerset Friends Meeting.

[@theotherstatesofamericahis5212]

@@genethrowe8205 cool!

[@DevilsAdvocate5789]

Me too, they came in 1677 and settled medford and cherry hill area

[@amethystanne4586]

My paternal grandmother’s father’s Quaker ancestors left Wolverhampton England before 1700, and settled in Philadelphia. There is a meeting place in Quakertown, New Jersey.

[@seesea-sv3xw]

I live near Quakerbridge Road," in Hamilton. I always wondered if there were any Quakers in the area giving the road its name.

[@JoshuaFinancialPL]

Quaker influence and presence is still large in Philadelphia. The Friends own some great real estate there.

[@matthewgarvey995]

They are not the main players in the game that they used to be.

[@michaeltelson9798]

According to my former MIL who was part of the Onadaga Iroquois tribe. You couldn’t trust the Leni Lenape (sometimes referred to as the Delaware) as they were the tricksters and pranksters of Native Americans. “Dickon Among the Lenspes” by M.R. Harrington gives a little insight into Leni Lenape culture through the eyes of a young man that survived a shipwreck and adopted into the tribe.

[@CJ-Foygelo]

Nice work. Tks

[@elbowache]

I'm from South jersey and descended from early quaker stock. This was really great to see and learn that my people really did have their own thing going and their own peaceful arrangement with the Lenape. It makes me want to read the history books and see which of those 1400 were my people. It really solidifies the difference between north and south jersey, and it's amazing to learn that south or west jersey is older than Pennsylvania or Philadelphia. We really are our own place, aren't we.

[@theotherstatesofamericahis5212]

@@elbowache is there still a cultural difference between east and West Jersey?

[@elbowache]

@theotherstatesofamericahis5212 Oh 100%! it's thought of as North/ South Jersey, and generally as a New York v Philadelphia divide. That's why it's so thrilling to learn that West (South) Jersey is older than Pennsylvania. But the old border follows the line between Burlington and Ocean counties, which is defacto like between North/South. Different accents, (slightly) different foods. It's mostly been washed out by later waves of migration, and sadly, you'd be hard pressed to find any Lenape around today, but there are still old 17th century Quaker descendants like myself around. And of course lots of place names and old structures are still standing. Yeah, my people were the Salem meeting house.

[@danielevans8728]

Great video, I grew up on the PA side of the Delaware near William Penn`s manor house.. which sadly now sits under the shadow of a trash landfill.

[@theotherstatesofamericahis5212]

@@danielevans8728 it's amazing it's still around at all

[@stevemarciante9758]

I grew up in Trenton and was familiar with the Quakers but thank you for the in depth history very interesting

[@dew02300]

They built the Quaker Bridge Mall didn’t they?

[@selfcaresally]

Recently found your channel and it’s really helpful! fyi re: your audio: your “s” sounds are ear-splitting while the rest of your audio is maybe a little quiet, so that when I have the volume high enough to generally hear you, your “s” sounds stab my eardrums. Not sure how you’d fix that but I listen to a lot of content and your channel is the only one that does that to my ears (at least the most recent vids), so wanted to let you know.

[@theotherstatesofamericahis5212]

Thanks, i backed off the filtering on this episode for the first time in awhile, i can't change the audio on youtube but i can for the audio only podcast.

[@calebsavage4631]

this is fascinating - i grew up in southeastern PA and went to Quaker school. We heard a little about George Fox and William Penn but never any specifics.

[@jgaynor]

Great history lesson!

[@kayallovertheplace]

So Eric, I'm currently working on the restoration of the Ezra Ames self portrait from 1803 but I'm also one of the Dey family in NJ. Our family's colonial grounds were the headquarters for Washington in the Preakness campaign as well as many other notable patriots. Id like to work with you on an idea

[@j_pn]

As someone resident and with deep ancestry on both sides of the Delaware including West Jersey I thank you for making this video. I have always believed that "New Jersey should be split along the Province Line again and the West portion must be united with southeastern Pennsylvania (Philadelphia and all surrounding counties) and the Lower Three (Delaware, or at least just New Castle County) as one culturally cohesive state. Even today the cultural divide of the Province Line is reflected in elements such as phonology, dialect, food and sports team allegiances. 🦅

[@theotherstatesofamericahis5212]

@@j_pn the sustain of the division across centuries is incredible

[@rollwaveroll]

Please do a series on Delaware!

[@ms8596]

The Quakers had significant influence in the birth of our nation. In the Philadelphia Metropolitan Region (which includes South Jersey), they still have a noticeable presence. Not sure why anyone would take issue with you covering them. Unfortunately, two Presidents who have primarily negative legacies, Hoover and Nixon, were Quaker.

[@jonathansmith2824]

George Fox was on trial apparently for some shenanigans he got into and was being angrily examined by this magistrate and at some point Gearge said to the judge “thou shalt tremble and quake at the coming of the footsteps of the Lord!”…and that coined the phrase Quaker

[@jeffreybishop9478]

This sounds like how so many dishonest politicians got started in New Jersey. Nowadays.

[@richmanifesto1090]

Super under reported section of history

[@briansmith9439]

The Penn in Pennsylvania was inserted at Charles I's insistence as a tribute to Admiral Penn, not William Penn. The Admiral is the captain of the ship that brought Charles back to England prior to the restoration. The Penn family had long & strong tie to the Stuarts - William was a fervent Jacobite, loaning large sums of money to James II for his failed attempt to retake the throne. William Penn was charged with treason and his Irish estates and his Province were confiscated by William & Mary for two years while Penn either hid out in England and/or gained enough supporters to have the charges dropped and his estates restored - or rather, his right to govern & profit from them as the land itself was not confiscated, only the right to govern was. His travels to Germany was actually a trip to find one of the Stuart girls; the proselytizing was a side show.

[@SailingAngus]

The three balls on the University of Pennsylvania shield are for three battles won by Admiral Penn Love that irony because UPENN forced the ROTC off campus and they are in a building on an island in the middle of Interstate 76

[@deborahchychota5578]

@@SailingAngus. I have been trying to find this info about the 3 balls on Penn’s crest for a long time. Do you know where you found this info to document? Thank you! I live in PA and have now taken the Penn story on with a passion.

[@williamthompson2941]

Hutchinson was put on trial , convicted, and banished - like the Quakers were - because of her inner spirit - the Puritans didnt like that idea at all.

[@johnnixon4085]

This is a major reason the NJ Nixons became the PA Nixons.

[@gwcnetwork3379]

Hi

[@theotherstatesofamericahis5212]

@@gwcnetwork3379 howdy

[@silliaek]

The Shakers were not related to the Quakers except for their name, which was given to the Shakers by outsiders.

[@theotherstatesofamericahis5212]

@@silliaek the Wardleys who founded the Shakers were Quakers and early on the Shakers were known as Shaking Quakers.

[@skippydeenice]

hell ya the OG true libertarians

[@jd-gw4gr]

All of Word's God is Truth! please let us remember Our Lord 's own Words (in the case of Anne Hutchinson) as recorded in a Matthew 24:35, "Jesus declares, 'Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.' ” therefore be careful when we use the word relic when referring to the New Testament Scriptures and women are to remain silent in the Churches! why, let's think about how God made women. women mostly response/react to their emotions and men react with less emotions which is why men and women complete each other to make a whole; but, nonetheless paul preached and taught that women are not to have authority over men. to the fact, when preaching, the preacher is given the authority, by Holy Scripture, having authority over the hearers.

[@paddyoak1]

If Trump gets re elected; he’s gonna do what’s right and bring back East/West New Jersey! Just kidding!😂

[@--harry_]

Make West Jersey great again! Or MWJGA for short! Hats are on sale now!