Western sanctions hit Russian aviation sector | DW News

Russian airlines are still flying despite massive international sanctions imposed on the aviation sector, but their collapse seems imminent. Or have they found a workaround?
There are not a few aviation experts who are surprised that Russia's commercial airlines are still taking to the skies despite a range of biting international sanctions targeting the country's aviation sector.
Not long after the beginning of the war in Ukraine, Western countries barred their airspace to Russia's airlines; foreign airlines cut their commercial ties to them, and plane makers such as Boeing and Airbus stopped delivering crucial spare parts to Russia. According to those experts, it wouldn't take more than two weeks before commercial aviation in Russia collapsed.
Nine months into the war, however, reports about Russian aviation's imminent death are proving to be premature. Flight services for Russian passengers operate seemingly uninterrupted, at least on domestic routes. How can that be?
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[@Ass_of_Amalek]

it would have been good to mention that all of those western-made planes russia stole are supposed to undergo standardised regular inspections and maintenance and keep a record of it, and by now they have lost pretty much all their potential resale value and their chances to be recognised as airworthy in highly regulated countries, because they have been flying without keeping the proper maintenance record to document their condition.

[@xcitemex6353]

Wont matter to them. Its the western leasing companies that will lose out. Which country would they fly to anyway due to sanctions? I hope you didn't have any shares in AerCap

[@bitterballs356]

Having no planes is preferable to letting US pets surround you

[@lepetitroquet9410]

@@bitterballs356 You may have missed that Finland and Sweden will soon be NATO members. Oh, and Ukraine too, whether it will with or without Crimea doesn't change the fact Ukraine will also join NATO. Georgia is interested. And that's not talking about how close South Korea and Japan are to the US. So Russia is even more surrounded now that before.

[@bitterballs356]

@@lepetitroquet9410 Sweden and Finland were already NATO members in everything but name. And now they just made themselves legitimate nk targets. Ukr will never join NATO with or without US Japan and S.korea were always US 🐶s

[@perthyren601]

@@bitterballs356 understand your bitterness

[@anitagorse9204]

Russian planes weren't safe even in best times. Now it is russian roullete.

[@MetaView7]

[@howiescott5865]

it's the "new" Russian roulete.

[@DemPilafian]

@@MetaView7 You apparently don't know the meaning of *"Russian planes".* The big ones (at least back when I worked in the aviation sector) were *Ilyushin* and *Tupolev.* They are known for having sturdy airframes but *obsolete and inferior avionics.* Their safety records are atrocious.

[@MetaView7]

@@DemPilafian

[@r.casagrande8689]

Indeed. out of date tech, recycled planes

[@Zhalghas-YZ]

So that means it's becoming Increasingly Difficult for Ruzzians.

[@bitterballs356]

Well ukr don't have flights at all 😁

[@MAXlMUS]

@@bitterballs356 g'night ru pride 😘

[@martijnstam6186]

@@bitterballs356 Soon Russia is defeated and will collapse and seized funds used to rebuild Ukraine. Then flights resume while Russia drowns in a sinkhole.

[@boansy1]

Unless you have wings!

[@innocentiuslacrim2290]

@Craig Steddy only cut down versions. They cannot make "advanced" features like air bags, ABS brakes not to mention ESP.

[@tarp-grommet]

The war is going to end one day. The longer it lasts the worse the outcome for Russia geopolitically, economically, and internally. Why has Russia not understood this? It really is bizarre.

[@xcitemex6353]

When it does. The whole of Europe will be broke. US pulls out, and leaves it to the EU. That means the end of "project Ukraine/Europe" Now US start on "project China or Iran"

[@Paisa231]

in their world, a russian defeat or demize is impossible.. the existencial "threat" of the west grows strong in uneducated russia, that most of the russian people are. Check out YT channel 1420, you see but there is also glimses of hope tho

[@kabzaify]

75 percent of the world has no sanctions on Russia.

[@Paisa231]

@@kabzaify true, but who produce these plane parts, who develops them, who have the capacity etc.. this apply to most of the advanced technologies and industry out there. And even if ~75% of the world doesnt have sanctioned russia, how many of them do buisness with russia... and do they have what russia needs. no, they dont.

[@dark_master_Makei]

If you want to hear nonsense, ask a foreigner what he thinks about Russia. Alexander S. Pushkin😛

[@blueeyedwolf2205]

Actions have consequences.

[@boansy1]

Inactions have no repercussion. China has the RU buy the balls.

[@wom_Bat]

Lose Morales sink planes.

[@MinusMedley]

Yup look at this war the US has started... the rest of the world doesn't like it.

[@noduh736]

You would have to be desperate or crazy to get on a plane in Russia they need almost daily repairs they aren't getting

[@bitterballs356]

Yes the mistake of depending on US or her 🐕s

[@giotto_4503]

@@bitterballs356 Keep coping krembot, soon Putler will run out of money to pay you.

[@khanhnguyen-tt3ff]

It still safer for Russian then in the USSR days, Russia aviation have a history of killing more of their general and admiral then ww2

[@bitterballs356]

@@r2hildur well china has its own planes now. Russia will certainly buy from them

[@mikoto7693]

I wouldn’t. That footage of all the inoperable systems was scary.

[@PeterSedesse]

airports also have liability issues if they allow uncertified planes to use their airports

[@howiescott5865]

I don't think the word "liability" exists in the Russian language. Besides, anybody can get a plane certified in Russia if you just pay the "certification fee". 😉

[@PeterSedesse]

@@howiescott5865 Im talking about non-russian airports. including places like Belarus and Turkey. if they allow russian uncertified planes to land at their airports, it is probable that insurers of western airlines wont allow western airplanes to use those airports

[@boansy1]

Thats a very good observation. Leaving your facility open to interruption by all means is a serious miscalculation.

[@wom_Bat]

@@PeterSedesse Well some countries let Iran get away with it. Sometimes it means a plane spends months grounded waiting for matinence though.

[@donbsea]

These airplanes are taking off and landing at other airports WITHIN Russia. They don't leave Russias airspace. They can do whatever they want with uncertified planes in their own country. However, if I was to live in Russia, (oh, no thanks), I would drive to wherever I wished to go. Getting on anything that is supposed to fly....ah, no.

[@Greatdome99]

It's not just Boeing and Airbus; spare parts from Pratt, Rolls, GE, Honeywell, Goodrich, Parker and others are also involved.

[@spxram4793]

sure they built a stockpile before, knowing that they want to start a war, plus half of the fleet is not flying due to loss of routes, so they have more to take from. Let's say they can keep up domestic flights for 2-3yrs. But then, they'll have to buy Chinese planes with Russian or Chinese engines , as the West will not deal with them for some time. Plus I doubt they get their Western routes back, before settling somehow with the leasing companies and all others involved.

[@enigmaticzigfried7557]

Aeroflot still rocking that hammer and sickle? Back to Soviet technology, I guess.

[@VisibilityFoggy]

They have to bang together those airframes somehow...

[@CL-yp1bs]

"They all depend on....." oh thanks for finishing that point !

[@aabbccdd320]

probably western avionics and software

[@rivermcjohnson]

Basically Russia is currently INOP😂😂

[@Vladishit_Putler]

It's not a crisis, it's a special economic operation. - Putrid, Liesvrov, Pisskov

[@richardd8111]

Russian airlines to fly using washing machine motor..............LOL

[@loganmodine]

Russia's industry has taken a heavy hit? No, Russia's aviation industry has taken a nose dive. Low hanging comedy fruit.

[@xcitemex6353]

We apologise about Soledar and Maryinka

[@Baddy187]

I love to see this Russia struggle, gives me good vibes

[@op7317]

👍🏻😆

[@hummingbird6427]

thanks to your tin foil hat😂

[@aliancemd]

@@op7317 🤣🤣

[@_Painted]

I hate it. Bad for the world, but it is Russia’s fault. I want everyone to prosper and cooperate. I hope Russia realizes violence isn’t the answer and we can all forgive them soon.

[@ismailyahaia3312]

Thank God Russia is struggling and Ukrainians are suffering.who is crying more?

[@Lepocoloco]

Good. This is just the beginning.

[@sarjokujabi9730]

Nonsense forget does lies of the west

[@raymondk2202]

@@sarjokujabi9730 how much did they pay you to write this Yuriy? Did they pay in advance? Cause if not, you can forget about getting your money, i'm sure about that, go ask your military personel 😂👋

[@raymondk2202]

@@davidnoelfranks1124 is this your argumentation Vlad?

[@greengarnish1711]

@Jean m Can you imagine a plane dropping on the Kremlin and then having them accuse the West of a 9/11 attack? lol

[@BS0000]

They'll have to rename the company "Aeroflop".

[@chrillerkiller]

Or Aerodrop

[@lovelybitofbugle219]

I love the way the putin fan boys are trying to find the silver lining in this one 😄

[@Kodakcompactdisc]

Imagine how sick you must be to be a fan of a child killer

[@skibididopyesdop]

Those aren’t fan boys they are payed bots

[@lovelybitofbugle219]

@@Lenser yes i hadn't thought of that. They will be next i suppose. Excellent.

[@ljco6106]

Fans of Putin are no different than Elon Musk or Apple fans. More than a fandom, it's a cult.

[@georgezaharoff]

What a mess. So in other words, planes are flying around Russia like it's 1950

[@boansy1]

Watch the planes full out of the sky, already happening!

[@WhatHappenedIn-vt3vq]

Na. Pretty sure 1950s travel was just Russia before the war with all the random shoot downs and false flag missile attacks Russia might just be going into the wreight brothers days

[@stevenhart9004]

Yep same as their military equipment.

[@marioformosa4259]

@@boansy1 Where?

[@boansy1]

@@marioformosa4259 I know of one civil downed in the baltic sea and another in Kazakhstan this week with multiple military aircraft failures all over Russia over the last few weeks. There were hundreds downed over Ukraine due to friendly fire and as many by direct fire but this has stopped due to inaction and no sorte directives, obviously due to the holidays coming up. Didnt one crash near Mosco last week?

[@CellarDoorCS]

Is there a reliability rating attached to the flights now? (this plane is only 20000 km past its service)

[@alf3071]

they repair them with duck tape

[@gm7304]

🦆Quack🦆

[@angusmacfrankenstein7227]

Even Angus MacGyver can’t save them now!

[@thescarletandgrey2505]

It’s not like Aeroflot cared that much about maintenance any way.

[@jackjackthompson5771]

They stole all those planes…unbelievable they can still operate them, outrageous

[@jshepard152]

Boeing should put in a few lines of code that allows the leasing company to brick the airplane via update.

[@glowbright]

@@jshepard152 worst idea ever, terrorists could then hack all commercial planes and render them useless anywhere in the world

[@boansy1]

I would imagine staffing technical support will be a bigger problem as experienced personnel are leaving the RU demographic for better/more secure positions in the West. The increase in air traffic equipment failure and accidents seems to represent this statistically.

[@YouTubeusr]

Soon they’ll start falling out of the sky!

[@angusmacfrankenstein7227]

Hopefully nowhere near me!

[@denisemurphy3915]

Just like American planes !

[@H2o143]

@@denisemurphy3915 🤔🤔🤔

[@rasputindasilva858]

No problem, Putin will issue a law saying every russian will have to have wings and fly by themselves.

[@redshanksbolshevikempire]

Your Mentally sick

[@rasputindasilva858]

@@redshanksbolshevikempire My doctor says i'm in good shape, physicall, mental & economical.

[@NeverRubARhubarb]

The title is a weird one. It states a fact, and then the piece itself thoroughly refutes that fact. It's like having a video titled "The Earth is flat", and then having an interview with a scientist explaining that it is not in fact flat. Clickbait?

[@zoranhorvat4197]

yes they are operating its Tupolev the SSSR technology

[@leninha5549]

Maybe they can use some spare parts from washing machines, comming from Ukrain???

[@leninha5549]

*. I mean : stolen from Ukrain....

[@lotuselise4432]

DIL's Uncle was a 2* General in the Peruvian airforce and flew fast jets and Russian helicopters, I think the main service after X amount of hours is a full strip down and reassembly once done the Russian certification guy wanted to certify the helicopter, he refused as you need a proper flight test which included cutting power to the engine mid fight, he said the look on the Russians face as this was most probably his first time ever doing this test was priceless and he believes he soiled himself. This is what I was told so certain elements of this story may have been lost in translation and I am not mechanically minded or have knowledge of things that fly.

[@johnnytampocao7671]

This topic should be brought in discussion in their TV program in which most panelist are full of hardliner and egoistic Russian who are so proud of their country.🤣🤣🤣

[@crushingvanessa3277]

Why did the report cut out at 2:03?

[@afcgeo882]

Most aircraft operating in Russia were leased and Russia kept, illegally, all of them, and stopped payments. That saved them a tremendous amount of money and allows them to cannibalize those “leased” planes as a source of spare parts for the ones they own outright.

[@stuartie4065]

Was searching for this comment, they’re absolutely saving lots of money by stealing billions of assets.

[@agn855]

Right. And its whole maintenance run has been done in (fanfare) Frankfurt, Germany. Guess what happens once their newly promoted "qualified" personal has to do that part from scratch (if those who have that skill set haven’t left the country already).

[@afcgeo882]

@@agn855 No one in Russia is certified or equipped to do heavy maintenance checks on Boeing or Airbus aircraft. They’re either going to sell them to China for under market prices, use them for spare parts or fly without major checks, but my guess is that other countries will start to restrict them for that reason soon enough.

[@baronxsa]

@@agn855 So what, a couple will crash and trust me it wouldn't matter to Russians, it would be barely on the news for a day. But they can keep using them like this for decades, which is enough for people who created all this. And if one day sanctions are lifted, they will just get new ones. The mistake of the West is they think Russia will play by the book.

[@DemPilafian]

The big Russian aircraft manufacturers (at least back when I worked in the aviation sector) were *Ilyushin* and *Tupolev.* They were known for having sturdy airframes but *obsolete and inferior avionics.* Russian commercial aircraft manufacturers ended up partnering with western companies to get modern avionics. I imagine the Russian manufacturers are hurting mightily right now. The sooner Russia's economy collapses the better it is for humanity and the international norm of respecting sovereignty.

[@janentomenkafka]

The Russian economy will not collapse. Cuba has survived a 60 years blockade and the Iranian economy also stays afloat. It will however suffer a huge (technological) setback. And that's good enough for me as it will limit the production of modern weaponry. Lada for example still produces cars, but now without airbags, ESP, ABS and other high-tech components.

[@wom_Bat]

@@janentomenkafka "survived" yeah sure. They definitely don't thrive or even get by though.

[@VisibilityFoggy]

@@janentomenkafka "Surviving" is a subjective term. Its dictatorship has survived, but the life for its people is miserable. Millions take homemade boats into shark-infested waters to try to make it to Florida. You don't do that unless things are *really* going poorly.

[@WhatHappenedIn-vt3vq]

@@janentomenkafka Spend a year in North Korea and try honestly say that again. Life in Cuba in rough, and were relatively friendly still bolstering it a bit

[@marioformosa4259]

Yes it is mighty heroic of Ukrainians to die for America's divine right to have American NATO bases wherever it wants to, even on Russia's borders. America has no debt problem. Its $30 trillion debt can easily be paid up by printing more dollars. At least that's what Americans think

[@rafaelernestorosabal8734]

They will have to install clear navigation domes on top of cockpit for star gazing and rely on compass and local radio stations (ADF)! NO PROBLEM!!

[@Innerspace100]

All of a sudden, Russian airlines are having wet dreams about the Douglas DC-6...

[@tessellatiaartilery8197]

Great analysis by Juri. Succinct but concrete details, thank you.

[@shanesteven4578]

The aircraft example you showed in your report, where items on the flight deck were ‘inoperable’, would be sufficient for most of the worlds Civil Aviation Authorities to ground those aircraft, not to mention the highly probable failure in routine service being carried out on all Russian flights, negating any possible insurance cover, It’s entirely up to the Russian public if they wish to board Russian airlines. However, I would highly recommend using roads, rail or sea … oh, of course, they’re suffering a lack of spare parts, passengers and investment too, it’s only a matter of time before a total collapse, welcome to Putin’s Russia.

[@albula642]

I can't find it now but that specific plane complies with all MEL requirements, so that it could fly in the western area as well. As I recall the plane was an old A320 heading for the scrapyard, so they took parts from it to keep at the maintanance area or something similar. Spare parts where short but this flight was legal.

[@lonyo5377]

@@albula642 maybe for a scrapyard flight... But the other side is that if you aren't flying internationally you don't need to comply with international rules anyway so they could relax requirements and slowly get more and more dangerous in the future.

[@albula642]

@@lonyo5377 Oh yeah. From my own experience in Russia, I'm fascinated by how well international authorities where able to make the russian airlines follow maintanance regulations and standards.

[@connectingwings7212]

@@albula642 two pfds out of service, the flight was in fact not legal

[@albula642]

@@connectingwings7212 Hmm, I can only see one. The captains pfd looks like they are just dimmed down.

[@rogerwilco2]

Why was it cut off at 2:03 ?

[@swedesam]

Flights on those airplanes with the least amount of "INOP" cockpit stickers probably cost more.

[@angusmacfrankenstein7227]

1:50-Would an Western airline fly planes with so many inoperable components? Better, would it be _legal_ for a plane to go up with that many inoperable components?

[@anitagorse9204]

No. If you want to have permission to fly, you need to maintain stricts schedule of regular checks, each spare part needs to come with instructions and certificate, needs to be installed by certified mechanics. These planes are already junk pile. They can't even be sold, except maybe to North Korea?

[@mikoto7693]

In a word, no. There is a list of things that they can fly despite being inoperable but very few of them are in the cockpit.

[@RandomGuy9]

No. And no other country would let a plane like that enter their air space.

[@boansy1]

Only if you were desperate, without insurance and showing a front and courage to win as in the Battle of Britten.

[@raypitts4880]

@@mikoto7693 same as cars still drive without a windscreen dont make it dangerous motor bikes dont have wind screens no problem

[@Puleczech]

"Sanctions don't work, we have lost nothing."

[@geoff4383]

Seem to have lost a lot of soldiers, weapons and the ability to fly to the free world countries amongst other things.

[@geraldhagen2989]

Nothing to hurst Bloodymir Putin,

[@olivka7560]

@@geoff4383 what are free world countries? Lol Russian still flies to pleases it used to. Do you think they went for holidays to poland or Germany lol

[@almarn]

What type of transportation did the Russians use before the horse, the donkey and the cart? Answer...Airbus and Boeing

[@hfdthvd]

The unofficial slogan of the Russian aviation is, With God's help and a little vodka

[@anitagorse9204]

Lots of vodka.

[@bavery6957]

It's only a matter of time before a major catastrophe with tragic loss of lives. Not relishing the possibility - rather, dreading it... 😟

[@wom_Bat]

Like all the military jets crashing into apartment buildings in russia.

[@WhatHappenedIn-vt3vq]

That's legit up to Russia to decide. Russia is getting what it wants and it won't change its mind until there's jets lodged into its schools

[@ClickLikeAndSubscribe]

"A major catastrophe with tragic loss of life" is one way to call the war, but a mild way.

[@shamsumire1663]

I'm afraid of that too :(

[@nigelclifford8405]

Yeah it is the ordinary innocent people that will suffer from this. Flying by commercial aircraft to isolated Siberian cites thousands km away provides a vital lifeline to those communities I assume with the outside world. I am thinking of cities like Norilsk, Yakutsk (the coldest city of earth), Magadan etc.

[@gregorywilson2124]

We'll see Russian planes with birds taped to the wings next.

[@janiekcarney5482]

The pilot makes the final call on whether that plane flies I know because my brother was a commercial pilot. He cancelled his flight because the plane was not safe and the airlines had to accept it. They didn’t like it but they had to accept it.

[@anitagorse9204]

True. But it doesn't work like this in Russia. You fly that plane and pretend all is well and in perfect order or you go to police station to receive beating and finish in jail. It's hard to imagine how much surpressed fear Russians have.

[@cyberfunk3793]

Probably in Russia the pilot has to accept that either he flies or he ends up in the front line in Ukraine.

[@georgezaharoff]

I don't think this is the case in Russia for a pilot to take a video showing an a/c in flight with it's electronics out.

[@rivermcjohnson]

@@cyberfunk3793 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@danlavigueur2648]

it's just a normal special operation after all

[@roadwarrior144]

I would’ve though Boeing could remotely disable the FMS systems of those aircraft still in Russia, but I suppose that cannot be done in order to protect the safety of the aircraft and passengers (shutting it down/disabling it in mid-flight, for example).

[@freemusicforyou2011]

Watch this from Russia and about to take a flight✈️ on domestic airlines. Well, I guess I rely on 3 or 4 levels of security system in every Boeing. The phrase "Russian roulette" has expanded its meaning. Wish me luck 🤞. I am against the war.

[@cyberfunk3793]

I would need to be paid a lot of money and be provided with a parachute before I would agree to fly anything serviced in Russia.

[@suzyqualcast6269]

Ivans wouldn't let you jump.

[@peterpeterpeter6315]

just make sure the parachute is western made.

[@jshepard152]

Parachute won't help when you burn to death on the runway.

[@Funica11]

One working airspeed gauge, One working altimeter, One working compass, One full bottle of vodka, Probably those are all Russians needed.

[@johnstreet797]

russian pre takeoff checklist: are the engines running? Da. Let's go

[@Batman-vr6jp]

Who will go to Russia?

[@anitagorse9204]

If you want to be in body bag...yes.

[@angusmacfrankenstein7227]

Be careful if you do: you might get a direct ticket to the front lines!

[@easypimpin123]

I like how this photo of the plane shows what clearly appears to be improperly installed doubler plates on the port side wing. Lol

[@tankman20064]

Orcs need to fly ?

[@mysteriousfox88]

whats a russia, theres only chinese vassal state

[@sayyedzulfiqar3743]

Europe*

[@izerrandom12]

they completely shunned the question who underwrites such planes flying domestically in the RF. clearly, this cannot be a European or American agency. in case of a crash there is probably only a Russian underwriter/insurance covering a fraction of what is the international standard. The question when such a plane (airbus or boeing in RF) becomes inoperable due to a lack in software updates has not been addressed either.

[@boansy1]

The RU insurance scandal is basically not playing anymore. Hard work.

[@jackjackthompson5771]

They stile the planes, the entire thing is “illegal” whatever that means to Russia now. They basically don’t recognize most international law anymore and do what they like..

[@timmommens901]

👍Slava ukraini 🇺🇦🇧🇪🇰🇷

[@timmommens901]

@@droiddevx03 where ?

[@Luton-Mick]

Phuc Ukraini...down with the poison dew.

[@thetruthshallsetyoufree1700]

It would be highly dangerous to fly with these airlines now.

[@terrie001]

Putty should only be allowed to travel within Russia. He shouldn’t be allowed to leave his country. He should be jailed from international borders.

[@suzyqualcast6269]

Barred from.

[@mysterioanonymous3206]

The EU is already discussing a special panel on pursuing the Russian leadership for a number of crimes. Just a matter of time. Soon they will be isolated in Russia or get captured. Russia is f****.

[@donovan8747]

He can go to 3rd countries... it's where he belongs

[@TheGeosto]

He should be locked in a kennel.

[@509brown]

It would add to the information if 2 year and 5 year outlooks were discussed.

[@serefisler]

why did y'all take an early out of the package? it was pretty good

[@harpomarx7777]

"INOP" means "inoperative", not "inoperable". Look up the difference between the two. Inoperable is a medical condition that cannot be remedied with surgery. Inoperative is a state whereby something does not function correctly or at all.

[@thafunktapus]

02:13 that was a pretty ham-handed chop to this lady. you didn't let the other lady finish.

[@MrRichie6921]

Good for them

[@peace4myheart]

When a Russian air crash occurs, that's when the people will question their safety flying. I don't wish death on any Russian citizens, but it is just a matter of time before an airplane crash will occur.

[@anitagorse9204]

No, they won't, because media won't report it or if it will, it will twist the story. Russians aren't you or me. They don't think the same critical, rational way. They don't demand answeres from authorities.

[@bitterballs356]

It will be the responsibility of those who refuse to sell spare parts

[@anitagorse9204]

@@bitterballs356 Not at all. Flight company is responsible for safety of their planes. If the safety is questionable, they need to ground planes and cancel flights.

[@bitterballs356]

@@anitagorse9204 no if you sell them planes you also sell spare parts. You can't simply refuse to and put people in danger

[@anitagorse9204]

@@bitterballs356 Selling spare parts and maintenance is a part of an extra contract between buyer and seller. It doesn't come with planes by default. Now, Russia doesn't really care if people are dying and most of the world doesn't care if Russians are dying so it's all well and good.

[@diazvirdani1059]

*Russia🇷🇺 occupied oblast Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk, Kherson, Zaporizhia.* Russia must end occupation & Peace!

[@marioformosa4259]

What happened to the Boeing Max ? They were dropping off like winter flies a few years ago. Did they change the name?

[@wallend4013]

The Max is currently going through problems getting re-certified before new regulations kick-in and force Boeing to redesign the cockpit warning and information systems.

[@martinandersson2478]

Stealing 500 aircraft’s. And that is still one of the least horrible things they have done since February 24.

[@michaelyun2407]

I mean even if the war ended I don't think air bus and beilong will work with Russia air line again. I mean at the start of the war Russia basically stops payment of all of their air craft and force all planes in Russia to be theirs even if they belong to other air lines.

[@nick_vash]

Russia's fleet was in dire condition even before sanctions but now... I know for sure they use old rubber sealants in fuel equipment of their airplanes which often leads to catastrophic consequences. If you remember several months ago there were two russian jets falling from the skies one into a living block building with 40 people burnt alive. It was due to bad maintenance of the warplanes let alone civil aviation......

[@fisherflush]

им похер что ты тут пишешь)) фамилию смени сначала для того чтобы тебя слушали))

[@nick_vash]

@@fisherflush I worked for 'Aeroflot' company for many years;)

[@danlavigueur2648]

It so bad that they cannot even get duct tape to hold wings together

[@wom_Bat]

I've seen 3 accidents recently. One was piolet error though, he croased the jet stream of another plane and fell out of the sky.

[@aA-ye1cf]

russian civil airlines tend to run on a wing and a prayer when theres no sanctions... To fly on these now would be really scary Slava Ukraine

[@vatoloco6536]

Ok bot

[@wom_Bat]

Flying on hopes and prayers.

[@marioformosa4259]

Any non Russian plane, whether civilian or military, will need more than a wing and a prayer, to fly across Russia without permission. Slava Ukraine

[@RSfandude]

You know what would be scary? flying on an ucrainian airline, oh wait, there are none lmaooo

[@sofiia28]

@@RSfandude because there's f-ing war, genius.There's no war on ruzzian territory

[@rustyschackleford5800]

1:57 what is the Achilles heel??

[@YouGotsTheRabies]

The INOP notes are just frightening. Human lives board an aircraft in such condition? People in charge actually consider this acceptable? Insanity.

[@raypitts4880]

oy like cars you can still drive with no hand brake how do it affect driving run wheel into curb it is safe no problem or is it because you cant see it gb

[@Dodoskee]

I guess it's easier to steal a cracked software update than to get physical parts for engines or other parts subject to wear and tear. Moreover, most of the most delicate titanium parts are made in Russia so... I guess they will have fewer problems with spare parts than European and US airlines, unfortunately.

[@jakob.k_design]

wrong. While a lot of the parts have Titanium in them that comes rom Russia they still get manufactured in western Europe or the Us. Russia lacks the crucial knowledge to make those parts, which is one of the reasons they had to rely on wetsern made engines for their own newly developed aircraft.

[@Dodoskee]

@@jakob.k_design Hope you're right. 👍🏻

[@jonpetter8921]

@@Dodoskee That s the problem of Russian now. When it comes to industry hardware, software, logistics, they are dependent of western companies. Russia thought they can survive with oil and gass. But even with oil an gass they are still dependent from western expertise if they had to retool their infrastructure for instance.

[@boansy1]

True but when you have no support to your tech or military asset and no economy, tough call over the next 100 years. The Chinees will soon smell blood in the water. They have a few axes to grind and unlike western ethos, they dont care how many die or why. Its not rocket science although that was never the RU's shinning moment in history. The future? If I was an insurance company it would be holding back on asset in every field of RU recovery.

[@Trevor_Austin]

QNH/STD selector is minor but when combined with Autopilot 1, an auto brake problem, a right hand PFD and we have the makings of a very interesting problem when the other systems fail. The solution though will not necessarily be the solution. Systems software will normally be required to fix these systems, assuming compatibility between versions will not cause subsequent problems. Only time before smoking start appearing over Russia. No doubt Ukrainian terrorists and NATO and the UK will be blamed.

[@flyboy970]

They deserve everything that is coming to them.

[@Kodakcompactdisc]

Sadly I agree but it won’t be putlers or his inner circle of child murderers that will suffer it’s the average russian

[@shamsumire1663]

I am Russian (not ethnically) and I am against the war. But according to your words, if my mom turned out to be an air crash victim, it would be good news for you?

[@artthoutimelapse7700]

Why cut the report short

[@cecilklink6200]

THE QUESTION IS... WHERE ARE THEY GETTING THE SPARE PARTS FROM???

[@stupidburp]

Cannibalism and smuggling

[@geosync9742]

And Western companies who own these planes and lease them to Russian airlines will file total loss insurance claims because even IF they get their planes back they would need complete heavy D check inspections and repairs. Sketchy repairs with no log entries are probable so owners won't want to risk putting them back in service.

[@WhatHappenedIn-vt3vq]

We use alot of planes here in Alaska to get by and there's small towns that were allowed to dip below legal standards. If the planes are returned, they'll likely be melted down completely and turned into scrap also likely for a lesser demand

[@deluxecapprian983]

Soon russian will travel by foot.

[@angusmacfrankenstein7227]

Aren’t many already? Especially men of draft age heading for the nearest border!

[@anitagorse9204]

With old trains one week to other side of the country. Imagine how badly it affects already poor economy.

[@kosia1972]

Iran survived why not Russia

[@anitagorse9204]

@@kosia1972 Iran is flying planes from 70s that are more mechanical than electronic. Things back than were made to last a lifetime. Functions in this high tech planes go out in a couple of months if not maintaned. How many times does your phone or computer crash? Yep... Russians will have to ground planes or they will start crashing down.

[@ivanvolnov6127]

It’s already. I am scary at take airplane seat. Only by train.

[@rachmadsuhartono]

What is the achilles heel?

[@colin8696908]

The fact that those planes are still flying means that somebody is supplying them with parts.

[@fratercontenduntocculta8161]

The greatest comedy put of this whole war is seeing the entirety of Russia realize too late that everything they know and love comes from outside their country. That, and sanctions doing what they were made for is also deeply refreshing.

[@wom_Bat]

I hear they are researching ABS and air bags for cars. It's planned to be in production 2035. I woner how long until they develop air parts? 2070 maybe?

[@Commentator541]

This is all a myth. The only thing they can not do is buy or sell directly, which will make even more trade people rich. The planes can not be certified in the west, but rest assured they will find a way to make them fly. They are allieed with China.

[@wom_Bat]

@@Commentator541 China isn't really doing much other then buy discount energy. Is this the reason why countries like Iran has a terrible safety record snd sometimes have planes spend month long delays. Last year an Iranian plane had to wait almost 3 months in Egypt paying fees until they could source western parts. China for example still uses western parts for their own engines. They don't have parts to give russia in any meaningful supply.

[@Innerspace100]

Disc brakes is also on the cards, apparently... And power steering, even! Things are looking bright for Lada! What next?! Power windows?! It's going wild!

[@yandexamazigh3775]

@@wom_Bat It was 40% of all civil aviation and 50% of military aviation, made only in Russia, the rest being American. Airbus was founded in 1989 and did not exist then Russian aircraft industry has a long history even before the communist era

[@yandexamazigh3775]

@@wom_Bat The association indicated that China produced 25.2 million cars in 2020, compared to 25.7 million cars in 2019, a decline of 2%. China manufactured approximately 32.5% of the world's production of cars in 2020, compared to 27.9% in 2019. Based on data from the International Automobile Manufacturers Association (OICA), China produced more than 21.1 million passenger cars in 2021. Over the past 13 years, it was and still is the first country to produce cars.

[@generalbroadhead1760]

The video they showed explained her question, she’s not paying attention

[@RoodeMenon]

Lots of Aeroflot planes landing in Thailand.

[@PostWarKids]

As an Indian I say Slava Ukraine

[@stevenhart9004]

Its nice to see someone from India care about Ukraine. I fear for India because as a country, if it trades with Russia it will be considered a terrorist supporting nation. I hope India realizes the dangers & safely moves away from trade with Russia & stay part of the international community. Love to India.

[@jin1740]

There is also the option of buying parts through China and Chinese airlines. Massive numbers of Boeing and Airbus planes in China, so I can imagine some parts filtering through.

[@VinnyUnion]

Yea. Until dozens crashes happen repeatedly and rendering that aspect utterly useless commercially altogether.

[@Gudang9]

If Boeing exist in china, most likely the duplicate and parts also available 😁

[@RandomGuy9]

@@Gudang9 It is not simple to copy Boeing parts. You don't know the tolerances, temperatures of heat treatment and so on. It would be easier and cheaper to just produce a Chinese jet and sell it to Russia. And I am very sure that is what China would prefer anyway. More money and influence for China.

[@martijnstam6186]

Maintenance records of all planes are registered so it's impossible to resell parts in reasonable amounts. Russia's aircraft fleet and all its major industries will come to a standstill. In 5 years Russians are driving around in Ladas from 35 years ago.

[@jonpetter8921]

@@Gudang9 That s literally Russian roulette lol

[@squadman3376]

Aeroflot now departing from bus gate 3.....

[@James-ke5sx]

Wheels and brakes are the most frequently changed parts of a plane and they cannot be cannibalized when they're already worn out from other planes.

[@freeloader247]

Its surprising for me that Russia still deliver titan to airbus and boeing knowing that boing and airbus banned delivering spare parts.

[@mikerowave1986]

Russia still delivers uranium for western nuclear reactors too

[@krishnapather8815]

This will lead to more efficient land transport. And indigeneous technology.

[@Jay-hr3rh]

Meanwhile, the Western airlines has to burn 15-20% more fuel to avoid Russian airspace. Westerners are also paying more for their tickets. Who's being hit the hardest?

[@ApexierGS]

Wow the DW reporter who researched this topic in full and was explaining the findings was cutoff from speaking, really professional guys 😆 only to talk in the home newsroom and discuss rhetorical questions to alarm or panic mainstream viewers who don't look into the aviation industry that much, when nothing meaningful was said in the newsroom. 🤔

[@olafweinzer5746]

Moskow to Sochi by train only. No planes.

[@caesar7734]

2:00 On Wes Anderson?

[@songwang9534]

I finally understand why China developed its own high speed train systems. And they insisted on being 100% manufacturing domestically. The country really has to think 4 step forward.

[@bullpup1337]

you must not have heard of the recent train crashes in china then. Their system sucks.

[@AnexoRialto]

I assume most of the Boeing and Airbus aircraft are leased. Besides failing to maintain the planes, are Russian airlines paying the leases on those used for domestic flights? I bet not.

[@ianstewart6021]

A mafia state a mafia airline industry. Let's wish them all the bad luck they deserve. They probably call it flying with God.

[@LiemNguyen-qr6bq]

You wish.

[@howiescott5865]

I like flying in jets maintained with non-cannibalized parts. I wonder if Russian submarine sailors ever think about that with their submarine parts? Maybe only when there's a failure... What do we do now? 😲😨😱

[@boansy1]

Well the majority of tech support in marine military culture (RU) evacuated. I think it is the same for (Air) now so its not looking good for RU training and running in that aspect. The RU will basically just become a massive farm eventually. Great farming prospect though, if the Chinees dont invade and take from them.

[@user-yj7um6hv1d]

No one gonna fly with "cannibalized" parts. We have our own aircrafts - SSJ-NEW and MC-21. Takes 5 minutes to google it. Plus, we've made a contract with Iran, they will provide space parts and technical support.

[@MrRichie6921]

😄😆🤣

[@paulhargreaves1497]

@@user-yj7um6hv1d RA-89098

[@mutkaluikkunen3926]

Now we'll just have to wait until these planes start to get into frequent accidents. Happy landing, ruzzkies! The plane will always come down, don't you worry.