Wet Belt Replacement. The worst one I've seen! 2017 Citroen DS3 1.2 Petrol

[@bwautocare]

New serp belt wasn't available at the time of filming so for demonstration purposes, the old belt was refitted. A new belt was fitted before vehicle left the workshop. 👍

[@seanwallace1972]

Ahh I wandered that

[@karlos1060]

It's good you said it because i was thinking what the F?

[@TeezerDriz]

Great video, love that you don't have annoying background music like other people. ❤

[@avalon6607]

Wet Belts are a crime. I used to work at an Opel Dealership and like every 3rd car had trouble with them expanding. Good for the owners: there was a recall for them ;)

[@leneanderthalien]

first user from wet belts was Ford, 2 years before PSA, and VW did use it sinze +20 years on some he's engines to drive oil pump...

[@lucianogastonpendinopedett5300]

Not on a Toyota, 3L, 5L, 1KZ, 1KD, 2KD, never has a single problem with the belts. 1CD, and all the Diésel engines with belts.

[@nigelmitchell351]

But why when dry belts are tried and trusted and a doddle to change, if you want it running in oil put a bloody chain on it. Modern design by child engineers.......

[@pataleno]

Agree the designers should be named and shamed for this crime to motor engineering.

[@spacecoasttactical]

The crime is idiots putting the wrong spec oil in the engine and then whingeing that the belt failed

[@pablo123b]

FOR HEAVENS SAKE STOP TELLING HIM TO CHANGE THE OTHER BELTS PEOPLE! HE SAYS THE REASON WAS FOR A DEMO ONLY AND THAT REPLACEMENT NEW PARTS WERE FITTED WHEN THEY ARRIVED! great video new sub added

[@andysaunders3708]

Asshole. You didn't invent this rubbish system, did you? Sounds like it...

[@michalw6965]

The same with crankshaft sealant… 😮

[@victorgrasscourt3382]

It is clear from the state of the oil drained out, that this car hasn’t been maintained properly.

[@jlodew0]

not to mention the state of the accessory belt. Long overdue in maintenance I guess. It also looked like there wasn't much oil in there either. They hold somewhat over 3L,

[@posset51]

I was told recently that Stelansis / PSA etc are now covering the wet for life so long as the car is serviced by the main dealers . Prior to this update it was for 10 years . I change the oil / filter mid term between services as de-graded oil seems to contribute to degradation of the belt. Expensive but hoping to avoid early issues .We have the 2022 Vauxhall Grandland . Needs to be the 0w 20 B71 2010 spec oil otherwise they will want to charge you.

[@tankrs]

Peugeot has just this week replaced mine for free. 2008 1.2 130hp 19 reg and 65000 on the clock.

[@rosreaviemore727]

Brilliant video from a guy who obviously knows his job top guy.

[@apemoon1731]

I didn't know these had a wet belt. My wife had one a few years ago. This explains a lot.

[@Paul-ey1ct]

Leave the trolley jacks in place as well, double safety there's no need to remove them👍.

[@we-are-electric1445]

As cam belt changes go it doesn't look to hard. You have to wonder though with all that cr*p in the strainer just how much oil starvation it has suffered. Would anyone want to own a car like that ?

[@sheenaparfitt2607]

The two little gauze filters were not cleaned out one by exhaust cam sprocket. And other in access hatch

[@scabbycatcat4202]

I am sure this will be invaluable to anyone having to do this job for the first time. I am surprised you put the same fanbelt back on which looked to be in poor condition !!

[@bwautocare]

Thanks for your feedback. A new aux belt wasn't available at the time of filming so for demonstration purposes the old belt was temporarily re fitted. New belt fitted before vehicle left the workshop. 👍

[@CarelessGamer15]

Whats the material used in the timing belt? It seems to have fibers

[@bwautocare]

According to the Millers Oil website, Manufacturers make timing belts from rubber or an elastomer such as nitrile, neoprene, or polyurethane, and they include reinforcing cords to control the belt tension. They also tend to have an oil resistant coating to improve durability.

[@CarelessGamer15]

@@bwautocare thanks for the info mate!

[@jeroeniemans]

You need to torque the crankshaft 50nM + 180 degrees. Also the belt guider needs tensioned at 20. Also note after an dilluted motor you need to flush the engine first

[@Paul-ym4mz]

Brilliant video thanks for uploading.

[@ChrisStokes-do4mt]

Why did you put an old belt back on

[@posset51]

As I posted earlier that Stelantsis will cover the belt for life so long as the car is serviced by the dealer so if you change the belt for a aftermarket unproven chain they won't want to know. You can buy a measuring gauge to check for easy signs of swelling which is a pre cursor to failing for about £6 which I think is worth having . Lets face it all cars with belts need then changing but these might be slightly earlier than dry belts . Again good clean oil changes seem to help. All of the videos usually show very poor oil in the sump. I change mine every 4K as I prefer not dealing with dealers with poor customer service which are most I am afraid to say. I owned a BMW motorcycle dealership for almost 30 years so I understand what customer service should be but thin on the ground these days .

[@zdravo4]

Why you put back used and cracked aux belt???

[@timj41]

Great video, is the new timing belt an upgraded design over the original? My freind had a golf R and his oil pickup looked like that but it was carbon not rubber belt debris,. I would be flushing the oil system to remove rubber debris and around the belt area itself but thats just me.

[@edepillim]

Were there bits missing? I didn’t see the orange gasket go back on. Fascinating to watch

[@davemwas1874]

was wondering the same too, hang on, I thought, there is something missing!!!

[@ΣαμαραςΧαρης]

What is your opinion about a chain replacement kit which it will be soon available???

[@53Dmac]

Great video. What were you spraying into the oil pick und the sump gasket area?

[@Lightmaker5]

Oil and filter change every max 5000 km. It's a sad reality for this car. If you can't service it yourself, sell the car. It's too expensive to own.

[@nerroworks7562]

It’s not the oil filter tho it’s the fact that the wet belt rubber clogged the grate

[@Lightmaker5]

@@nerroworks7562 If you change the oil, you change the oil filter as well. It's the fuel that gets inside the oil over time and destroys the belt. When the belt shows signs of disolve it's already too late you have to change it and clean everything. Take off the oil pan etc. Disaster! Dunno what drunk engineer thought it would be a good idea to put a belt into oil.

[@jafar4marva]

9​@Lightmaker5 That's the million dollar question that should be asked of PSV. Upon what theory was that design accepted and was there any dissent voices from within R&D ? How should the customer trust ever this manufacturer if they can bring in such blatantly wacky innovation. Or is there a positive side to the design that negates the very obvious drawback. Or was it simply built in to fail?

[@brentsumner6548]

Other than putting back the badly cracked serpentine belt it was a good instructional video

[@maximc7089]

Great video thanks, but why didn't you chock the rear wheels and leave a raised jack under the cross member for extra safety? I would have flushed the engine before refilling with oil.

[@matthewjenkins1161]

I'd not trust engine flushes with wet belts. I did 2 almost back to back flushes on my mates C3 Aircross, but only in the knowledge the belt was being changed 2 days after the 2nd flush. Who knows what long term effect the solvents in a can of flush, have on wet timing belts?

[@Jake-um4gg]

Trying to do this on my parents car currently. 2016 and the sump looks so much worse in condition. It’s practically seized on and I can’t get it off at all. At a loss here because it needs to be done ASAP but a new sump is £200 from main dealer

[@ancientbriton8262]

Bad as it is, at least the oil pump has a chain drive, unlike the Ford Eco Boost (Boom) engines, Ford replaced the wet belt drive to chain drive for the cams during 2021, but they have not done the same for the oil pump drive, which is still a fall apart rubber belt drive, beggars belief, nice video very through 😊

[@mattchandler2309]

Surely you should give it a couple of rotations via the crankshaft pulley, and re-check tension, before capping off the tensioner cover?

[@scotspie501douglas7]

so why is the motor trade not jumping on this the RAC the AA

[@EppingForest304]

Good tutorial plus relaxing to watch 👍🙏

[@Tiwey]

dont you have to overtighten the belt first and then allign it with the marker?

[@scotspie501douglas7]

great video I noticed your belt did not sit right in the middle I got mine down and I noticed did,nt sit right in the middle why is that

This engine is toasted, it worked with low oil pressure for thousend of miles, high oil consumption for liners beeing worn. The only way to make this engine to last is changing oil at no more than 5000km SINCE NEW and instal the revised belt.

[@nosferatu5]

Great camerawork/editing.

[@Jokesxxl]

Why u tighten the cam sprockets with slag on the belt? Tighten the sprocket bolts is the last thing to do but first adjust the tention on the belt!

[@bwautocare]

Hi, On this engine the Camshaft Dephaser pulleys are on keyways. According to manufacturers data, the Dephaser pulleys should be fully tightened before tensioning the timing belt. Hope this helps!

[@tomminghsy2]

in your experience, do the 1.2 aspirated PureTech have more belt problems than the 1.2 turbo? thank you

[@dragonofyorha]

Equally

[@paintingdecoratingwithzac7340]

I can see you really know what you doing....considering the tool you used to clean the oil pump drain 😁

[@kpsig]

Cool down, the new belts are ok, provided the oil changes are done at about 10k km max, always via the drain plug at the oil sump. The oil sump, unfortunately, needs to be removed for inspections and cleaning of the enclosed components, no matter what, with every belt change.

[@paul-h4j]

wet belts are not an never will be a good idea... years ago had a belt been contaminated with oil you had to bin it whether new or old.

[@jakefisher8788]

What a hell of a job !!! 😲

[@robertwillis4061]

At least the sump is easy to remove than on a Ford Ecoboost.

[@rocon86]

Whoever invented wet belt should be jailed. It's fraud and a scam. Bring back dry belt and chain for all cars.

[@willydanneels934]

the last belt was gone , and did not rephased ??? GOOD WORK !!!!!!!!!!

[@Tigerxrx]

I seemed to have missed the part where you use a torque wrench.

[@jeroeniemans]

This triggered me most

[@johnm-wv6bo]

i wonder how much the manufacturers saved putting belts on instead of chains. i would pay extra if keeping the car and have a chain kit put on.

[@johnsmith4542]

I would have changed at least the oil pump as well, and possibly the vacuum pump given the amount of crud in the strainer.

[@leneanderthalien]

To remove the oil pan you need a specific and unexpansive tool to avoid distortion...The old belt (with fabric on surface) whe see here is the first belt model who was replaced with a new model much more resistant (no fabric visible on surface) in april 2017, so i think this engine was built before...And what the hell did you not see that the acessory belt is completly craked!!!!!! The 3 belts from this engines MUST be always replaced in same time!!!

[@bwautocare]

Great info! As stated in the description of the video: New auxiliary belt wasn't available at the time of filming so for demonstration purposes the old belt was refitted. A new belt was fitted before vehicle left the workshop. 😀

[@Abcdefg-xl8te]

That serpentine belt was stuffed. It should have been replaced. I enjoyed the video.

[@bwautocare]

Thanks for the feedback! A new aux belt wasn't available at the time of filming so for demonstration purposes the old belt was temporarily re fitted. New belt fitted before vehicle left the workshop 👍

[@MrLekatt]

At least this technical design is genial compared to the Ford Eco Boost with a separate wet belt for the oil pump..

[@harshadissanayake9266]

The poor fellow will be busted again due to the cracked serpentine belt 😃

[@bwautocare]

Thanks for your feedback. A new aux belt wasn't available at the time of filming so for demonstration purposes the old belt was temporarily re fitted. New belt fitted before vehicle left the workshop 👍

[@harshadissanayake9266]

@@bwautocareLovely.! Keep it up. Your content is informative.

[@bwautocare]

@@harshadissanayake9266 Thanks!

[@pepsicola2315]

If the oil drain was under the oil pump you could check and clean it every time.

[@Flyboy1066]

That’s bad maintenance 😮

[@andysaunders3708]

No, it's a stupid design. Rubber and oil. Doh!

[@luckysmiler]

Good video

[@beunhaas102]

They didn't even put the drain bolt at the lowest part of the sump. It really is incredible how the combined effort of so many manufacturers has resulted in such a terrible engine.

[@timaspinall3619]

good instructive video wish peugeot main dealers wound do vid so you know wot your getting for the money

[@raymondselley5747]

sorry i missed the mileage

[@oyvindr-g5v]

OW! 12:30🤕

[@shaunpowell7513]

Don't put the sump on till you've done the belt in case you drop something I know

[@Polivatube]

Try to tight with torque

[@navarrouk3487]

Can’t believe you didn’t change accessories belt, it was done!

[@kimjensen3686]

Huu, vem köper dessa franska skitbilar?

[@johnburns6422]

Wet belts should have been withdrawn a long time ago , Ford i believe were first with it [ F O R D,/ Found on road dead ] to days engineers are governed by accountants which leads to unreliable vehicles .

[@ricardoleite4473]

Here in Portugal, i've supported 60% of a new engine swap and i don't know if the new engine has solved the problem. And anyone know tell me it. Please don't buy this cars!

[@KennethSmith-lb4ln]

Mechanics let the side down with shoddy workmanship and high bills.

[@karlos1060]

Wet timing belt is the worst invention ever. They must have paid an engineer to go ahead with such desaster. Because everyone knows that this is going to happen over time. Plenty of those engines are destroyed due to no or low oil pressure. You should never buy that engine they use i a lot of brands from Stellantis!

[@chrissheppard8123]

I have a 2003 ford transit 120000 mile on the clock i purchased it in2003 recently spent about £1000 on new clutch and master cyl oil and filter front disc,s and pads rear cylinders and brake shoes front wheel bearings . up to now other than servicing every 5000 miles not much more , i was thinking that in the spring of treating my self to new transit on the basis of this , then found out about this wet belt idiotic crap idea ford engines have now have .

[@GoranŠtuhec-i8n]

slop from changing the timing belt

[@BIBIWCICC]

This is what happens when you follow America (Ford)!

[@Old-Sole]

Communication also involves speech, humans have been using it for many years, you want to try it!

[@KawasakiVersys-bt8cc]

Puretech motors are total bullshit.. it s fatastrofic in france and one guy fight against Peugeot Citroën about this...garage de la double commande on KZbin, very funny😂😊

[@kubus223]

This sump oil like porn for mechanic 🤣I save friend car he have 1.2 pureshit technology because he someone called me and I give him advice similar clogs happen in him car.

[@driver134]

1.2 = junk

[@rugbygirlsdadg]

Buy an EV? 😊

[@svenujdenica3049]

Good day everyone, I work at Citroen, in short - the engine is fantastic. Go to service every 10000 miles, oil from 2 months 2024 is 5w30, and belts are changed at 82.83 atmospheres at 80000 miles, and turbo 110.130 at 60000 miles, we learned that cars that drive longer distances wear a belt less - means the engine is fantastic. Greeting

[@TorCow1234]

Your idea of "fantastic" is diametrically opposed to my own. Maybe it runs fantastically and makes a lot of power for its displacement while returning excellent fuel efficiency (I actually haven't looked at specifications), but mission critical systems being run by a belt that shreds itself, potentially taking out other mission critical systems - means the engine is shit. ...at least in a road-going vehicle that everyday people are apt to count on for everyday transportation duties.

[@80s_kid.]

My Brother has a 2020 Peugeot 208, his engine destroyed itself at 34k miles, Peugeot replaced the engine, he tried to sell it or trade it, but the 2 places he went to wouldn't even offer him a price, they said they won't take the car because it has a Puretech engine, car Sealers/Sales won't even buy or trade a car with a Puretech engine in, a lot of dealers call them Pure-Crap, or Pure Scrap Engines, WET BELT is a terrible idea

[@svenujdenica3049]

Kid Sir, if you don't have 1000 euros a year for a car, I recommend a bus. Thanks

[@80s_kid.]

@@svenujdenica3049 No, not a bus, i recommend any other car that does not have a Puretech Wet belt Engine in, i never hear of huge problems from any other engine than this Puretech, Wet Belt Engines are the worst design ever, the engineers knew that making an engine with a timing belt in oil would fail, it was like they did it deliberately to limit the life of these new cars. car mechanics hate them, Car Dealers won't buy them, or trade any car with these engines fitted, i know, because my brother is Stuck with his 2020 Peugeot Puretech, no one will buy it because of this engine, It's PureShit.

[@keithmathews6080]

Answer buy Japanese

[@biggerminds523]

Combustion engines are fantastic, but at the same time horrible and stupid. It's just too complicated and way too many moving parts. It's made just to cost us a fortune for many years, and then the bodywork..rust and shit.