WG Fulda: 8th Guards Army

8th Guards Army OOB

[@Cold_Warmaster]

Command Staff Discord: discord.com/invite/zp6UU3Jc Remember to behave.

[@ElGringo21]

You should make a dedicated video promoting the discord, a lot of people don’t check the comments.

[@Cold_Warmaster]

@@ElGringo21 There will be a dedicated video later, but I'll make a community post for now. Thanks for the advice.

[@bmhh123]

I am happy you went into some detail with this, so often in my career gaming the Cold War people treat the Soviets as a less interesting anonymous bad guy.

[@Cold_Warmaster]

@@bmhh123 which is a shame because the Soviet military was fascinating.

[@user-ow2ff6ct7c]

@Cold_Warmaster what was so fascinating about it? the only really fascinating thing about soviet army was how much resources it got and how incompetent and neglectful it was. and of course the amount of pollution it left. i lived near one of the western border airfields. after soviets left people were going to the airfield to dig a hole and the hole was full of jet fuel in a short time. The soil was literally full of jet fuel. not to mention various dangerous metals and oil products were simply thrown out next to the airfield for decades

[@historyisawesome6399]

⁠@@user-ow2ff6ct7chow was it incomptent or neglectful?

[@user-ow2ff6ct7c]

@historyisawesome6399 its hard to describe in a few words. it was something so special that non soviet ppl simply cant understand how it would even be possible in a sane world. The whole military was so decayed everyone knew it was only paper army with unlimited human resources ready to be sacrificed. long story short too many things were fake. from the most common stuff up to the high tech stuff. nothing worked as it should have. every single time something was broken. so broken that any simple usage was complicated or impossible. low quality, not enough resources and capabilities to fix properly. i suggest to watch papersky to have a basic idea with examples. some of his videos are about soviet aviation and what a joke it was. btw aviation was top in resources in military. one of the best videos of soviets keeping one of their worst military planes in service just because it used vodka as a cooler and nobody even in top command didnt want to cut this opportunity for pilots and personnel to get free vodka. not only to drink but as a good for trade. everything u could theft from factory or military had an value and were traded for everything else stolen from factories and military. like vodka for theatre tickers or paint for nails or fabrics for motor oil and so on. too many things were impossible to buy in shops most of the time so they were stolen and traded between ppl who btw were extremely poor. and yes vodka was top level currancy like cigaretes in jail. everyone top priority was about how to make misrable life a little bit easier by stealing not about how to defend teritory

[@TheReal_Mrlunk]

I mean, that's because they are.

[@spamuraigranatabru1149]

BTR-60s following T-80s... I am a little preplexed myself, that and the lack of T-64s comes as a bit of a shock. I know the BTR-70s were not exactly blessed with favourable reliability or desirability but the 60s are an odd one.

[@Cold_Warmaster]

@@spamuraigranatabru1149 a lot of units still had T-64s but it seems 8 guards army had been totally re-equipped.

[@spamuraigranatabru1149]

@@Cold_Warmaster right, T-80s didn't filter through much till the T-80BV and T-80U. The initial sans suffix and 80Bs weren't fully seen as improvements and the ERA was thought to be too heavy for the 64s, after that got proven otherwise the 64AV and BV still were surprisingly strong in numbers.

[@felixhanisch4005]

Towards 27 GMRSDs locations: Halle (Saale) was its main garrison and all units were actually based there, in several different barracks throughout the city. The city had a large Red Army presence during the Cold War. Halle was/ still is several times larger than any of the other, much smaller Towns and villages on the list, safe for Leipzig (Halle had somewhere around 320.000 inhabitants at that point in time)

[@felixhanisch4005]

also I belive 27th GMRD (and its predecessor 21 GMRD) never left East Germany after arriving in 1945

[@jackzhang8677]

0:39 3rd shock army lost its “shock” designation in the 1950s. It became the 3rd Red Banner combined arms army.

[@Armageddon_71]

Im really looking forward to seeing how this will play out! 8th Guards looks like a pretty big threat. Fun fact: Even though it is spelled as Chemnitz, you do actually pronounce it Kemnitz, with a pretty hard K. The germans are at it again! XD

[@NarthilWhite]

Great video! Thank you for sharing. May I translate this video and repost to my Chinese community? Appreciate a lot.

[@blitzkriegfritz2779]

Alright I try to do it halfway phonetic for you, just pronounce it like you would pronounce it in English: Bokdan Tshellm Netzkee

[@Sergpumpan]

Богдан Хмельницкий?

[@blitzkriegfritz2779]

@@Sergpumpan exactly

[@lightypower3412]

Where the fuck did the "tschelm" come from xd it's (k)hh m ye l n ii tz\ts k yh

[@Slawa_Saporogez]

You spelling is correct even though you will naturally have accent.

[@norwegianwiking]

Is there somewhere to source period maps to use?

[@norwegianwiking]

Im guessing i know the website you're sourcing. Wonder if we can find the original CFE reporting to confirm, it has to be available somewhere.

[@kgb85MD]

those are not long ass names that is their battle paths what they were awarded in the path to victory in ww2 before they took Berlin

[@MM22966]

I miss using the NATO nomenclature for Soviet/Russian equipment. It kept things simple.

[@lightypower3412]

Mm yes, today i will fail to distinguish between VSHORAD AND MRAD by putting them in the same cattegory oor between a recoilles rifle and a divisional level heavu atgm, like wtf, it's pointless!@

[@lucianaurelius2418]

Do you have a Discord I could join? I’d love to Command the Soviet VDV

[@Cold_Warmaster]

You may have been just quicker off the draw than me.

[@hmg85]

Motor rifle divisions should doctrinally have SA-8 regiments as well as 1 motor rifle regiment with BMPs and one with BTRs. I don't question your resurch but find this discrepancy somewhat interesring plus warsaw pact armies nearly always had 5 divisions.

[@d.graemer1627]

2 regiments with BTR, 1 with BMP 1 with tanks

[@ThatGuy-fq8cn]

hey, what is that "-y" after number is supposed to mean?

[@arek314]

It's like st/rd/th in English

[@ThatGuy-fq8cn]

@@arek314 I speak Russian. It is not. So author should just use English.

[@arek314]

@@ThatGuy-fq8cn I though you meant OOB graphics

[@ThatGuy-fq8cn]

@@arek314 yes, that is what I meant.

[@lightypower3412]

​@@ThatGuy-fq8cnwhat do you mean?!?! i had to check if you weren't gaslighting me, but no, cause i'm learrning R*ssian too. The y most probably stands for the ij or yj at the end of most numbers like "tret [EE] [II]" or "pyat [YH] [II]". Aalso sorri fur not haveing a propper cyrryllic kwyboard, if u knoww hovv to install it on an old samsung that'd help ;w;