thanks brother, i also analyze alot about topnwarr, and like ur vids.. dont look that much but when i do ur one of the best when it comes too explaining why it is what it iss... greetsz from Baldy
@anne80583 жыл бұрын
this is very helpful and ill try doing this in next wb,,, thank you!
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
Glad you got something out of this video
@sandal_thong86312 жыл бұрын
Wow, after watching this video, just replacing one front navy unit with one air unit versus Navy Boss made my damage go from 1.95T to 11.3T. I don't have any Air to Navy suppression, so it must be from the 5 explosions and super-damage!
@WGtopwar2 жыл бұрын
It's crazy how much of a difference it makes. It is a bit inconsistent though since whether you crit or not on the explosion wildly swings your damage
@kristofaercuevas64703 жыл бұрын
Amazing Video mate, helped me understand the new bosses more
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
I do what I can 😁
@The_Bobby_Jay3 жыл бұрын
This is a good video. I put 2 off unit stacks on the very 2 slots of the back row and this has helped me put the main units in my assault places and take advantage of the elemental strikes as well I have tried it with only one off unit and I do 30-50% less damage that way. My comps are usually damage up, damage down, armor boost, weapon boost, and high rate of fire. I just got level 70 but I haven’t had a chance to hit the world boss since I leveled up.
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
I've heard about that formation a lot since I made the video. I need to do it myself. But I would replace you armor buff, damage down, with crit damage and chance
@UGPhilosopher3 жыл бұрын
great work. i would recomment switching the max crit to the off unit because of the crit boost on the recommended unit
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
That's a fair critique makes sense.
@chucorobles3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video keep up the good work 👏
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it man 😎👍 thanks for stopping by
@whoisthebest68803 жыл бұрын
Good Guide
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it
@whoisthebest68803 жыл бұрын
@@WGtopwar Thanks
@ronaldmcsidy7632 жыл бұрын
Do Strengthening/ Weakening facilties help in more attack on world Boss? Can you explain how?
@WGtopwar2 жыл бұрын
Weakening towers have no effect on the world boss because the world boss stats are already 0% it won't go negative. Strengthening facilities do help you against the world boss because they increase your crit rate and attack
@donmisteryosgob5713 жыл бұрын
Was a fantastic help 👌 may could u do the same video with droid .. because there are other buffs on it
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
I'll move it up my list
@donmisteryosgob5713 жыл бұрын
@@WGtopwar appreciate it thanks alot 👍👍
@beanish653 жыл бұрын
Another you’re missing is off troops in front left and back right. This will give the big hit from main in middle center 3x and on the off troop in back right twice. I think until you get super strong on your main, getting 3 explosions on your main is worth giving up one stack to off troop.
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
I have a formation suggested in this video where every explosion lands on the main unit
@beanish653 жыл бұрын
@@WGtopwar but w a bunch of crap troops. We’ve tested your single off troop vs two off troops in 1,9; for non power players the two troops is like 30% better. Also if you are using Fenrir in testing your confusing yourself and everyone, one stack of Fenrir is effectively like three stacks of nävy for these setups bc it hits 3x.
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
All my testing was done with plane level 80 units. Also if the 1 off unit formation as effective have you tried the alternating where the main unit gets the explosion Everytime
@beanish653 жыл бұрын
@@WGtopwar have you tried the one I’m saying, against navy boss it would be boat plane plane / plane plane plane / plane plane boat, test w normal 80s. I’ll test your every- other if you test mine :p
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
I'll give it a try
@d4niel3033 жыл бұрын
1:09 the most important things about WB - thank you for that. I didn't notice that, because the translation for my country are not good and there is a misunderstanding..
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
I think everybody has issues with the translation in this game it's done very poorly
@gavinrowe72953 жыл бұрын
Good video we been working on this to 👍 the one useful comment I have is this !! Your fist set up with 4 air stacks gets all explosions in first round nearly then goes the rest of rounds weakens due to odd stacks ! The only difference between that and the second formation with 1 stack of tanks is that the second formation takes 5 rounds to cause 5 explosions but the rest of time your fighting with nearly a full set of main troops so should cause more dmg on average !! Everyone don’t forget crits give big range from att to att so do 5-10 with a set up to get your average range from a set up !! Don’t try one set once and because a little lower give up on it 👍👍👍👍
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
It is a good idea to occasionally revisit your formation and see if another one is better as you get stronger
@ryanglosson49972 жыл бұрын
Something I’ve been experimenting with is having a different type of off unit example of it’s a navy boss I have my off unit a plane cause planes against navy. So I have the first 8 slots navy then one spot a plane. But that depends on what type of boss it is
@WGtopwar2 жыл бұрын
I don't think I've actually tried to do a real hit against the world boss in months. I always just ought to send 5 March 😆
@ryanglosson49972 жыл бұрын
@@WGtopwar anymore I just attack it once just to see what my aa is but it’s something I have thought and started doing.
@WGtopwar2 жыл бұрын
I would at least do the five attacks cuz the participation rewards for hitting the world boss seem to be the best rewards. But the rankings for damage don't seem to change very much especially if you're outside the top 10 or so.
@ryanglosson49972 жыл бұрын
@@WGtopwar ok thanks for the tip! I appreciate that
@tejasrao61093 жыл бұрын
Good one broo👌👌
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it man 😎👍
@samycast23593 жыл бұрын
bro I have a question what is your specialty is it generalism or master of tactics or errs legendary craftsman or great scientist
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
I'm a tactical master
@結晶月の3 жыл бұрын
Would certain hero perks help with surpression? Like if I have Simon with 3 navy perks and 1 army perk, and I put a tank in for this strategy, would simons army perk help that even more so?
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
Perks don't affect suppressions directly sorta. Perks are based on how much damage you do so if you grade your attack or damage it'll cause your suppressions to multiply it a little bit. But perk s don't have anything that directly affects suppressions
@結晶月の3 жыл бұрын
@@WGtopwar thank you. I thought that might be the case but I’m glad to have it confirmed by someone in the know!
@pushpipe3 жыл бұрын
Our alliance figured this out early on. I'm AF main and went from 1.25 aa with 5 hits to 2.5 aa per hit by adding a navy stack in the back row. Was nice to be on top of the leader board again for a change 😆
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
Has the rest of your server caught on yet?
@pushpipe3 жыл бұрын
@@WGtopwar seems they are starting to but at least we had a good run for a bit
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
At least you got done extra rewards for a while
@HassanAnsari742 жыл бұрын
Hey! Have you tried having 2 off units, 1 in first slot and 1 in last slot and then having all main units in rest of the slots? This way your main components will be equipped to your main units and secondary components will be equipped to your off units. If you haven't, do try this formation. I've been having the most damage using this formation.
@WGtopwar2 жыл бұрын
I have tried it that strategy came out shortly after I made this video. It's an excellent formation.
@HassanAnsari742 жыл бұрын
@@WGtopwar I see and i tried your second combination and it was great as well. The major difference is in components. I wasn't using hrf on my off troops which is why i wasn't getting that extra damage so thanks to your video again. I learned something new as always. Keep up the good work for TopWar community
@thebsr96733 жыл бұрын
Have you tried the 1 & 9 same unit as wb, and 2-8 crit units?
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
No, I've heard a lot about it. Also 8 & 9 with a hfr is a similar one I've heard. Since this video I've just single stack hit wb to get the hits out of the way. The individual damage rewards Don't change much depending on your rank. Especial if you're not top 3. The 5 attack participation reward is all that really matters to me
@andrewsinabutar5603 жыл бұрын
hmm suppression. just how useful are they really? i've seen people with lvl 45 and above suppression on all three, yet like myself, some only focused their resources in one place (lvl 45 army and below level 35 on nave and air force in my case). would love to put more on them but i need the resources towards my perk.
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
Class perks should always come first for sure. But you should also try to find ways to increase gathering speed so you can work on those suppressions
@andrewsinabutar5603 жыл бұрын
@@WGtopwar would you suggest raising one part of the suppression first or all 3 at the same time as to have a balance lvl?
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
I raised mine as needed for the expedition base and then after that I focused almost entirely on whatever my unit specialization was which for me was Navy
@wing95353 жыл бұрын
Great video! Could you make a video whith bailos?
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. New heroes always just to the front of my list. Sunday at the latest
@SakthiVel-ux4fw3 жыл бұрын
@@WGtopwar waiting 😁
@Intotheknight3 жыл бұрын
Hey. please make a new video about new hero ASAP. I want to know what his trigger rate is.
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
I'm getting her today. I'll be doing some testing the latest the video will come out is on Sunday
@UpmaxGaming3 жыл бұрын
appears to be 20-25%
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
I agree with upMax. I did my testing today and her video will be out in under 13 hours
@UpmaxGaming3 жыл бұрын
@@WGtopwar damn thats way earlier than sunday :D
@123XxGILMORExX3213 жыл бұрын
Hey buddy can I get a review or some help with the new hero?
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
Of course, what kind of questions did you have? I will be doing a video on her no later than Sunday.
@Shawn12833 жыл бұрын
I know this is a few months old still waiting on a updated video... hopefully coming soon.
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
What it needs to be updated? I don't believe the world boss has changed since I made this
@UpmaxGaming3 жыл бұрын
The only reason you are getting similar results without the explosions is Fenrir, because Fenrir screws around with it massively (and so does Arvak i guess for air), for any other units the explosions are better no matter how much stronger that unit type is for you because it would also make the explosions stronger as well.
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
If fenrir affects the explosions in any way which I could not find any evidence of in my testing. Then that means this explosions aren't always better and multiple formations can be the answer. Also the majority of my testing was with regular level 80 units to prevent any kind of contamination to the results because I don't have equivalent Valhalla units.
@cHinitocHunk3 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this.. thank you😆. I can't wait for Bailos' review. Although imo, she seems to be better than Nimitz in terms of atk increase, but the extra attack chance that fires after every unit is debatable. It seems to cause more damage when the targets are afflicted with atk debuff, I wonder if Akatora's Mecha hits that causes atk debuff as well can be included. She's basically Aka without the rage but with the atk buff like Nimitz. But her extra missile is based on chance not a sure thing like Aka's mech missile thats guaranteed at 4-10 or 5-11
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
She does work off Akatoras atk debuff. So I can see her being a fantastic pairing with him. I still need to run a few battles with her to kind of get an idea of what her proc rate is and see what I can learn. But I we'll have a video out on her no later than Sunday
@slaayerr13 жыл бұрын
Her ability procs pretty commonly so it pairs very well with aka from my experience. So you're basically always getting the debuff on wb with aka missiles so she can always get the damage boost
@jokerone59213 жыл бұрын
Thanks man so much helpful video .. I have a question I'm lvl 72 and my main army is navy as Bassel 4 stars and Simon 5 stars , what formation do you recommend for me to use against army world boss ?! And also did the first formation components have High rate of fire or only boss components?! Much appreciated man
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
No high rate of fire for the first formation with 4 mains and 5 off units. There are too many variables to say what formation will work best for you. You'll have to test each out
@jokerone59213 жыл бұрын
@@WGtopwar thanks bro I tested them and the first one works best for me
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
Awesome 👍
@biswajitdascreation22593 жыл бұрын
Which server
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
I'm in 1138
@mikewhitaker28802 жыл бұрын
started about a week ago, roughly mid level currently... have sent my forces against world boss, have YET to EVER watch one of these battles.... playin on PC though, maybe this is why... info here still should be useful though....
@WGtopwar2 жыл бұрын
This video should still be relevant for you. Not much has changed about the world boss since. However people have come up with some new strategies that are slight variations of these however these should still do good
@ryankramer33493 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand what using the hrof component does for you.
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
With certain setups it allows your off units to attack before your main units. This is only used to coordinate which unit triggers the explosion
@Intotheknight3 жыл бұрын
So, on army world boss, we should change plasma to explosion to get higher damage? Am i correct?
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
You likely won't see a noticeable difference between the 2 if we are referring to Navy. I only said explosion does the most damage as a general statement not just world boss
@gavinrowe72953 жыл бұрын
Attack buff element on army seams to work best for our players but as stated in video depends a lot an the stage your set up as at
@Mody.1I2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your effort its great video. I guess for now things a little changed and maybe a new video needed 👀. Some people get the most damage by having first and last slot off units and some people last 2 slots. Maybe you need to check it out. Wish you a great day bud 🙂.
@WGtopwar2 жыл бұрын
I saw that strategy come out shortly after I made this video. It definitely works.
@samycast23593 жыл бұрын
It was a good hit Akotara you have it at a good level but I would suggest you have better Bessel because it does more damage than Nimitz on my server the strongest in ships gets to do 22 aa damage when she is a boss with army attributes but she has 3 heroes with, nimitz, bessel and akotara and it does incredible damage
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
I use Nimitz over Bassel for multiple reasons. When taking into account his war stat it is likely that Nimitz has a higher attack than Basel however this results in lower HP. It is much easier to get nimitz's exclusive skill higher than Bassel which also results in higher attack. Plus I have a much easier time perking out Nimitz because he's a free hero. So once I max out his perks I can transfer them over to a premium hero. At some point I will replace Nimitz but not until I'm done perking out three good Navy heroes
@fabianrro42933 жыл бұрын
from airforce boss we got to ship boss noice but we didn t get the fornation idk
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
I think it's random. There must not be a pattern
@fabianrro42933 жыл бұрын
@@WGtopwar thank you and what happened to the quality?
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
If you're talking about the audio quality I got sick and my voice is still gone
@fabianrro42933 жыл бұрын
@@WGtopwar your voice is ok, but the video max quality is 360, idk if its only for me or smt
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
I think it might be you I just checked it. I viewed it with my other KZbin account and it's showing up as 1080p
@Lexcommentyoutube3 жыл бұрын
The main unit crit is guaranteed if it's a hit, so you want more hit rate on it so the boss can't dodge (if he dodges you don't get the crit), crit buff doesn't do anything on the main unit.
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
Even a hit at 100% crit rate doesn't seem to always crit for example one of the army Valhalla tanks has 150% crit rate but still doesn't crit every time.
@DeadBoyG52 жыл бұрын
hey can i join your alliance my alliance is not at all working
@WGtopwar2 жыл бұрын
You'd have to ask leadership of my alliance. I have no say in that
@DeadBoyG52 жыл бұрын
@@WGtopwar okay 👍 no problemo
@synergy80203 жыл бұрын
Haven’t got to try it in action yet but I hope it boost me to 7aa on my hits thank you for the info I will let y’all know if it helped me to 7 or not
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
I'll be waiting 😁
@synergy80203 жыл бұрын
@@WGtopwar does it matter what troop type ? I am main army so I use army on air boss so would it be better for my second troop type to be air or navy
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
So long as your main unit takes advantage of suppressions it doesn't matter all that much. If you weren't using army as main they do hit single targets harder if everything else is equal so they are a good secondary
@synergy80203 жыл бұрын
@@WGtopwar 👍
@synergy80203 жыл бұрын
Good news I hit 7
@nanoplasm3 жыл бұрын
Finally got my first stack of Fenrir, and to my disappointment they don't work with the first formation as primary unit (mainly against army world boss). I suspect that's why it doesn't work for you either based on the Fenrir stacks shown in the second formation. When Fenrir fires three-times against the world boss, the elemental critical hit will get swap because the world boss sees it as not just one, but three elemental attacks. So when the next unit type fires, it will get the elemental critical instead of the primary elemental you expect to proc. I will train up some Jormungandr and that should work much better in the first formation. Fenrir will do splendidly as secondary unit type (against the navy world boss), because the extra shots will correct elemental crit that got swapped because of random hero procs.
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
In testing it was rather unpredictable. Sometimes it worked sometimes it didn't
@nanoplasm3 жыл бұрын
@@WGtopwar unpredictable in what way? The only source of randomness in our testing is random hero procs and the boss dodges.
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
They were unpredictable in the manner that they would not always trigger an elemental explosion even when they were the second unit attacking
@nanoplasm3 жыл бұрын
@@WGtopwar that, has never happened... There is always a reason why things work or don't work. Even if the boss dodged the attack from the second stack, the elemental typing will still register and will reflect correctly on the attack from the third stack.
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
It's possible it was a bug and has been fixed since I put out this video. I stopped studying the world boss after this video.
@dothrakisquad53373 жыл бұрын
Heeey wanabe gamer :) i am not touching the new hero untill i see your guide hope you dont make me wait long 😍
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
At the latest Sunday. But I will say she's awesome 😎
@UpmaxGaming3 жыл бұрын
You can already watch mine if you would like to :D
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
Or mine will be out in just under 13 hours
@samycast23593 жыл бұрын
aaaa and another question on which server are you?
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
1138
@biswajitdascreation22593 жыл бұрын
Brother I am navy which hero is good for navy & cpnt
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
The best are Akatora and bailos. If you need one of the free heroes Nimitz and Bellevue. The components are in the video. It depends on your formation
@sorensamuel47543 жыл бұрын
Hey wannabe who is better gira or brad
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
Probably brad. You also never really see gira used so most people in the community also seem to think so
@sorensamuel47543 жыл бұрын
@@WGtopwar but offense gira is better brad is just for defense
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
Bradley's ability works all the time. The reason you don't see him on offense very much is because he's often replaced with Ben. Ben's shield ability only applies on offense. Also gira isn't necessarily a better Brad. Gera increases damage decrease by 45%. Bradley gives you a shield of 45% of your health. Which one of these is better is likely situationally dependent. The more health you have the bigger boost you'll get from Bradley. The more damage the opponent has the more benefit you'll get from Gira for example
@bik0y3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Omni. From mr. brown
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
🤔❓
@beanish653 жыл бұрын
You will do WAY better triggering navy explosions from any Odin unit but Fenrir, btw.
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
Well I'm Navy main and it's what I have. Seems to work fine for me
@beanish653 жыл бұрын
@@WGtopwar I am also navy main, get way better explosion hits from Jormungander against an army boss, than using Fenrir.
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
The Fenrir had a higher base attack and hits the wb 3 times Each. How is the jor better?
@beanish653 жыл бұрын
@@WGtopwar Fenrir is split across three separate hits, and only the first one gets the bonus. Plus since the hits all go to the same target you’re missing a big part of the Fenrir boost.
@beanish653 жыл бұрын
At least against an Army, one hit from Jormun is bigger than the first hit from a Fenrir.
@jf87883 жыл бұрын
Do you have discord? I can help you increase your damage
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
Yes it's in the description of the video
@steveleblanc30333 жыл бұрын
If you put your normal troops on front right you won’t broke your vahalla
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
That is a nice tip. I used to do that myself but I finally got strong enough that if I'm attacking army with Navy they can't damage one of my units 😁
@call_sammu_783 жыл бұрын
Hi bro how are you
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
Doing good
@titinil3 жыл бұрын
Another video how to increase dmg and the place of units
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
Another on world boss?
@titinil3 жыл бұрын
@@WGtopwar yes plz the best position for unit and any information
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
This is a video before the world boss change but it had some helpful info kzbin.info/www/bejne/mqi6mqSohqaIh6M
@titinil3 жыл бұрын
@@WGtopwar i know this video but the new world boss is different and the position of unit make difference. For air boss some use ship in postion 1 & 9 and the rest tanks some use ship in postion 8 & 9 and the rest tanks and it gives different dmg in every postion
@titinil3 жыл бұрын
So we need new video for best postion for boss and droid . What about bumbelee and what about his skills for critical dmg Dont forget droid with you
@samycast23593 жыл бұрын
but I suggest you better to bessel instead of nimitz
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
When taking into account the war stat I believe Nimitz has a greater attack increase than Bassel, also it is much easier to get nimitz's exclusive skill since he is a free hero, also it is much easier for me to perk a Nimitz so once he gets Max Perks I can transfer them to a premium hero
@samycast23593 жыл бұрын
@@WGtopwar The truth is, I don't speak English, I'm using the translator and it would take me a long time to pass it, I speak Spanish, bro, I don't know if it would be a lot of annoyance if you told him in Spanish xd
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
I don't know Spanish
@samycast23593 жыл бұрын
I don't know English either, I actually use the google translator hahahaha xd
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
That works
@ForgottenInTheShadow3 жыл бұрын
Haha. Dont share the secret 😅
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
Lol don't want the competition?
@biswajitdascreation22593 жыл бұрын
To get more damage
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
Yes that's what the videos about
@kickin40283 жыл бұрын
My one hit is more than all 5 of his
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
Nice, heavy hitter. What's your VIP level
@kickin40283 жыл бұрын
@@WGtopwar 13. Try putting 1 stack of ships in the 1st stack and 1 stack of planes in the last stack. Tanks in all the rest. Try that and let me know your results
@kickin40283 жыл бұрын
Make sure you're using different elements. Army-piercing, navy-plasma, af-explosion
@kickin40283 жыл бұрын
Hope this helps
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
I've used that against the alliance Droid that requires three different elements but it's not great against the world boss. The community came up with a strategy very similar to that shortly after I made this video but it involves your main units in slots two through eight and an off unit in slot 1 and 9 but they have to be the same type of units. This results in three of the explosion landing on your main units while only two on the off units. If you mix up the units like you're suggesting this would result in three of the explosion landing on your off units in only two on your main
@whoisthebest68803 жыл бұрын
TODAY YOUR VOICE NOT LIKE OLD VOICE ARE SICK SORRY
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
Ya, I had a rough cough over the weekend. I actually filmed this twice because the first day I filmed it, it was so bad.
@whoisthebest68803 жыл бұрын
@@WGtopwar oh Sory God bless to You
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I'm feeling better. Just waiting for last bit of cough to go away and voice to come back
@whoisthebest68803 жыл бұрын
@@WGtopwar 🥰 nice to hear it
@kickin40283 жыл бұрын
Don't do this. This is totally wrong. Formations are not right. I'm army main and hitting easy harder than this guy
@WGtopwar3 жыл бұрын
I offered three formations in this video because different levels of gameplay caused different formations to do different damage against the world boss. These were the three most common formations that I was able to compile from people in the community. I'm aware there's a fourth one that has cropped up ever since this video came out using two off units. While I don't mind being told I'm wrong at the very least offer the solution rather than just comment this guy doesn't know what he's talking about. In many of my videos I pin the comments that correct me. Or I quote the comment and give credit. Also by the sole fact of doing more damage than me doesn't mean that your formation is better. There were plenty of people who were stronger than me that did more damage than me even though they were using One type of unit in combat. You could have all the strategy in the world but that's not going to overcome someone who simply has much better stats