WGU Computer Science vs Software Development 2023 - ALL Transfers Credits [w/ Study.com mapping]

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0:00 Intro
0:26 Overview
0:55 CompSci is Special (tons of transfers)
1:35 Certificate Comparison
2:03 Class Comparison (Difficulty)
4:30 Study.com and Transfers Comparison
6:30 Final Comparison (which is better?)
9:25 How to actually get a job after you graduate.
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[@JoshMadakor]

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[@raba650]

For the calculus I class, I'd already done trigonometry & pre-calc beforehand some years back so I was somewhat familiar with the basics. I decided to take calculus at Sophia Learning because of its open book policy o everything. Also, for the classes you pass, you'll just get a "pass" instead of a letter grade so as long as you meet the required percentage to pass, you'll pass. I mention this last part since I recently found a reddit post asking how important calculus is for future classes at wgu. Most if not all the views shared there said it wasn't important at all, not even for the 2 Discrete Math classes or data structures and algorithms classes. They also recommended a bunch of online calculators to help you get the answers/understand the concepts. That can cut down the time you take to pass your class.

[@brandonmalcolm2051]

In March they are changing it from software development to software engineering. Only difference they are getting rid of A+ and more coding classes

[@JoshMadakor]

That's cool! I tried to find that online but I couldn't find it. I didn't google good enough, haha. fake edit: ok I found it, that's tight. ty

[@Geomaverick124]

@@JoshMadakor Where did you find that info at? I heard about them changing it but was unable to find the info. Is it on reddit?

[@jayvet8402]

@Josh Madakor - Tech, Education, Career josh I've seen a few videos that software development you can still be applicable for software engineer jobs is this true? The video I saw basically said some software engineer are literally called software developers or software development engineer. Lastly, what 2 or 3 computer languages would you recommend knowing off the bat to bridge the gap and what is the best way to learn them or get certified in them a coding bootcamp, online school, or certification? Thanks for all you do military veteran here trying to transition into tech.

[@carole3877]

So is WGU 100% competency based?? I am not interested in doing discussion posts or group projects

[@shameermulji]

@@carole3877 Yes, it's competency based.

[@marcuslorenzo9705]

Honestly, half of the Devs in my company don't even have CS/SWE degrees, if a degree at all. Experience trumps all. Get your foot in the door, ship code for 1-5 years, you will find work somewhere else. I agree with this video, CS is great, but SD/SWE will plenty suffice

[@atomp153]

Thank you for this advice Josh, im going to start the CS degree next month.

[@blackswan7568]

This one was VERY helpful! Thanks for the info, Josh. I can vouch for Calculus 1 being pretty damn hard. I just finished taking it at my community college, and it was everything I could do to keep my A in the class. But hey, now I don't need to worry about it in the future😅

[@ortizbryan27]

They are phasing out software development for software engineering would love to see a video on this.

[@aesap_]

I was considering the Software development degree, but the knowledge from the upper Computer Science courses seems more worth

[@JoshMadakor]

Yeah, I ended up getting the CS degree because I was considering doing this PhD program, but I changed my mind after I got the degree, lmao. Glad I got the CS degree though

[@matthewacevedo21]

I know you’ve been busy with the course you just made but imagine a course that goes into transitioning from help desk to cybersecurity, systems engineering, cloud, etc.. I’m really enjoying the course!!!

[@chaimwald9171]

Hey Josh, appreciate all you've done to streamline the mapping process. Planning to go the CompSci route. Quick question regarding transfer courses. Choosing a random course as an example. WGU's "Business of IT - Project Management" requires 4 competency units, over on the SDC side "Business 311 (SDCM-0073)" is only worth 3 credits hours. Did you have an issue with that? Or the requirement was satisfied as is?

[@squiji9750]

Hey Josh. You've been a big help. Love your work. I just want to let you know that your spreadsheet may need a bit of updating. SDC's Computer Science 106 for Operating Systems for Programmers is no longer Ace credited.

[@JoshMadakor]

Oh dang, thanks for letting me know. I updated it :)

[@HectorElGeek12]

Finally, the video I was waiting for 👍🏻

[@JoshMadakor]

Thanks for watching! I heard they are updating SD into SWE next year, which is neat

[@omaralvarez1046]

Never mind I found those Docs, thank you.

[@jonathanpizarro9956]

WGU just released the Software Engineering program 🙌🏼

[@MGTOWUNIVERSE]

My answer: get both degrees!

[@ParrotMan01276]

I'm still doing Computer Science, though I'm considering doing Software Engineer after that when they change it to Engineer.(But I also want a Masters)

[@JoshMadakor]

It would be dope if they came out with a Masters in Computer Science. omg, i need to stop getting degrees

[@1musikgeek]

Yo Josh! They are going to replace the A+ cert with AWS Certified C. Practitioner. Whats your opinion on this cert? Also, we now have the option to go for either the Frontend or Backend Developer Cert. This is exciting as I'm starting BSSD/BSSE on Feb!

[@JoshMadakor]

That's seriously so good lol. SWEs use a lot of cloud stuff. There is so much in the cloud that facilitates SWE and makes it easier, so I'm happy to see this :)

[@olafharoldsonnii4713]

Hey Josh! I’m really intrigued in the software engineering department of I.T. I was studying at first to become a help desk technician with a A+ cert I completed the first course and I am preparing to take the A+ exam. I want your opinion on whether I should grab the WGU SE degree first? Or go for a SE boot camp that has a Income-shared payment plan, which is a type of plan payment that allows you to attend the course for free then, pay it back once you land a job.

[@alfredkelleher]

Great video Josh, it only reaffirmed my desire to change from Software Development into Computer Science. I got an email the other day mentioning that there will be a change and that starting March 1st of 2023, I'll be able to swap into the new Software Engineering degree but at this point I just want to do CS. I am struggling with getting callbacks for internships despite having some school projects (C867) and other personal projects on my resume. I feel like it might be the fact that I'm not in the CS department...

[@JoshMadakor]

Honestly if I graduated with a degree in SWE/SD, I would just bring my algo skill up and then put that I had a CS degree on my resume. Is that unethical? Yes, but I don't care. What are they going to do, throw me in jail? lol. Not telling you to do that, but it's what I would do. Feel free to switch to CS if you want though, it's a great program and I don't regret going :)

[@craigspencer4306]

​@JoshMadakor I am enrolling into the SWE degree at wgu, how do I bring my algo skills up,?

[@MegaMijit]

hey!! important question!! would it be most efficient/logical to get all of the certs separately before starting WGU so that time could be spent on the other classes? or not, since you get the cert vouchers included during WGU??

[@jenniferw8963]

Wow in 1994, when I was working on my Computer Science at California State University Sacramento, I had to take calculus I & II as well as Physics 1 & 2 (Mechanical Physics & Electricity & Magnetism).

[@JoshMadakor]

Love physics, so tight lol

[@Infraredx]

Decided to apply to wgu for a software dev degree didnt go for cs because i dont want to deal with calculus

[@caseyvandyke7051]

I would like to get the computer science degree but I'd probably need 6 months to get up to speed with my math which at this point doesn't seem worth it.

[@mamacocolilo105]

Hey Josh! Happy holidays and safe travels to u. By chance, does anything from ur course career curriculum transfer to wgu? Or, is the content that is covered in a course careers course, the equivalent/similar to any particular class in the wgu curriculum? Thanks.

[@JoshMadakor]

Hey Mama Cocolilo! good to see you :). Nothing from CourseCareers transfers to WGU yet, but it could/should. I think it takes WGU evaluating our curriculum and officially blessing it/letting it transfer. Enough people have asked me this now where I feel like I should talk to our owner and start reaching out. CourseCareers is probably a combination of little parts from "Introduction to IT", "Business of IT - Applications", and "IT Foundations", but not one whole class. CourseCareers kinda picks a few areas that you can expect to be at almost every help desk job, then we go deep in those areas. The latter half of the course is focused on how to get a job as fast as possible. Hope this helps :), Happy Holidays :)

[@mamacocolilo105]

@@JoshMadakor Always nice to chat it up with my favorite youtuber. Thank u for ur reply, Josh 😉👉 Gonna be signing up for ur class next year. Hope to land a remote help-desk gig while I get familiar with everything tech (i still find it intimidating and scary, but looking forwards to following in ur footsteps getting into security, one day. A loooooong time from now). Would like to quit my Respiratory therapist gig by 2024. I loved it, but it has taken a toll on my daughter (separation anxiety due to the times I had to quarantine after treating covid patients and hospitalized when I got covid.- she cries and says she will miss me every day when she goes to school ). Will u be adding security courses on coursecareers or is that it?

[@TheAbxyGamerHDJr]

Are you gonna make a video on the new software engineering degree? Thanks!!

[@JoshMadakor]

Yes I am haha, I'm planning it out now :)

[@jesse133]

How long did it take to pre-game the CS degree?

[@timmoore247]

I’m 1 class away + capstone from completing BS Software Development. After discussing with my mentor, I have the option to transfer my courses + capstone to the Eng degree. All it would cost me is 3 net new courses, ~$2,400. Do you think it’s worth it to get the “engineering” title on the degree? I’m an IT Consulting Manager at Workday with 10+ experience.

[@jonathanpizarro9956]

Hi Josh, great video like always! I see Straighterline and Sophia pretty empty on the spreadsheet. Are you planning in filling them up or they simply do not have classes to transfer over to WGU. I’m shooting for Software Engineering next year.

[@JoshMadakor]

Very cool that they are coming out with SWE. I might fill sophia and SL at some point. I know they have some classes

[@omaralvarez1046]

Great info. How do I download those spreadsheets.

[@JoshMadakor]

Should be in the description :) fake edit: looks like you found em!

[@justech]

I did math through multivariable calculus (Cal 3) and a full semester of Differential Equations as a Physics undergrad, but that was 15 years ago. I switched to a BS in business and ended up graduating in that program. How important is the recency of math classes for the other CS courses, such as algorithms, etc.?

[@AlbertoHernandez-gl8ut]

Iv heard you can't transfer classes in math that are older than 5 years

[@7henoble1]

Hey Josh, I have a question unrelated to the video. I saw many of your your videos prior and decided to attend WGU. I currently work at Amazon and found out that they have a partnership with WGU where they will pay for a entire year. My question to you is would you still recommend, Sophia or Study for any classes in the program? I understand the primary reason for using those third party resources is to save money so you can (graduate in/pay for) fewer terms at WGU rather than more terms. However are there some courses that is overall easier at Sophia and Study or is it better to take all courses at WGU for someone in my position? Thank you for your time!

[@1musikgeek]

I'm in a similar situation...following 🙂

[@HectorElGeek12]

I have the same question…

[@JoshMadakor]

Some classes are easier, for example, Calculus, Computer Architecture, and Program Management are probably easier at study.com, but if your employer is paying for a whole year of WGU, i MIGHT just go that route :). It kinda depends on how many classes you're bringing in (if any). If you think you can do all in one year, just stick with WGU. If you feel risky, maybe do some of the seemingly harder courses in study.com. Hope this helps!

[@JoshMadakor]

Answered above!

[@jahidthechosenone1313]

Hey man, im in that same position. I work for Amazon and I am doing Career Choice too. Currently im in community college but plan to transfer to WGU after this year for computer science. How has your experience been so far?

[@ibrahimzende6968]

Hello , I’m trying to enroll in the wgu computer science , is it a good degree for people? Because I saw many people don’t recommend it

[@saulalexis1814]

I don’t think I asked it correctly. As a full time college student, I wanted to know after I take the course and get the certification, would there be options to apply for part-time help desk remote jobs?

[@future_teknokrat7585]

Yes

[@JoshMadakor]

As in work at CourseCareers? Not at this time :\, in general? yeah, for sure.

[@mian.f996]

Hi Josh, WGU has changed the name of the software development degree and it's called software engineering so do you think it will improve it's marketability compared to computer science?

[@JoshMadakor]

I think so, I'll make a video on this soon

[@christopheracevedo9070]

Hey Josh! I am going to take Computer Engineering at WGU. They just changed it. My questions is, you can learn Java or C# with an online software engineer. Which one do you think is better to learn? Thank you for everything you do! I am 35 and switching careers from teaching to TECH. You and Shane changed my life! Thank you!

[@josephnwilson]

Also interested in the answer to this!

[@ThaHipHopDisciple]

@@josephnwilson Same here

[@SolidJello]

Depends on your job market. Lately i've seen more roles for Java in NYC, but check your area for what they're looking for.

[@jenniferw8963]

I imagine if you are going to do AI programing the extra math in Computer Science is helpful. I don't know if linear algebra is included, but that's important with AI.

[@JoshMadakor]

So the AI that covered in the CS curriculum at WGU isn't actually building libraries and stuff (which is what you need linear algebra for), it's basically using stuff that already exists and creating applications with it.

[@jenniferw8963]

@@JoshMadakor That makes sense. Thank you!

[@youMatterItDoesGetBetter]

If you''re good at math... CS degree... otherwise SE degree. That's all it boils down to.

[@kelz4046]

WGU changed its Software Development program to Software Engineering, while I was in the middle of enrolling. Do you see a change in the curriculum?

[@estfatul744]

definitely he has a video about it if you havent noticed yet

[@jenniferw8963]

Are the textbooks included in the $4400 per 6 month term?

[@JoshMadakor]

Textbooks and exams are included in the tuition, yep

[@charlesroyale5422]

How long is the discount code good for ?

[@JoshMadakor]

Forever :P

[@charlesroyale5422]

@@JoshMadakor sweet!

[@peterliggett8829]

Believe it or not, people use to program in machine language. And Assembler was considered easier to work with. This in the early to late 1950 s. That's the history lesson for today. LOL

[@JoshMadakor]

Lol I can't imagine that. There was a point where I was trying to learn assembly. It makes enough sense, but it's so labor intensive and I've been spoiled by high-level languages lol

[@justinoleary911]

I’m a principal engineer with no degree and making pretty much the max an engineer can make in the north east and still think about getting a degree not sure why 😂

[@Chris-tq1jy]

I am currently torn between Thomas Edison State University and WGU. Any suggestions?

[@mpforeverunlimited]

Thomas Edison is better if you're not in the US or Canada and they have more programs as well as associate degrees, but it's more expensive

[@JoshMadakor]

@mpforeverunlimited said it really well. TESU is more expensive but it's one of the best options if you're outside of the US. (I have a video on TESU as well!)

[@JoshMadakor]

Thanks so much for helping to answer!

[@mpforeverunlimited]

@@JoshMadakor yeah I watch all your videos so I know what's up haha

[@shameermulji]

Speaking of the Software Developer degree, from what I've seen on Reddit, WGU will be updating and renaming that degree to BS of Software Engineering. That A+ certification will no longer be required and will be replaced with an AWS certification.

[@AlbertoHernandez-gl8ut]

I have this, one job please, lmao

[@areynol]

Had to censor yourself at 8:37 lol.

[@JoshMadakor]

Lmao wow? I can’t believe you noticed that hahaha 😂 5-star comment ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@philh8829]

What a bunch of horrible certs that no organization cares about for software devs.

[@JoshMadakor]

😆 you don’t need certs as a dev, you need a portfolio and algos 😗

[@philh8829]

@@JoshMadakor you do working for the government in secure environments.

[@Franky566]

still a diploma mill.

[@anaem1549]

I had to comment for your bad as$ display pic for this video ❤️‍🔥🫶🏽

[@JoshMadakor]

Lmao thank you, I'm glad you appreciate it. Doing the glasses took forever :P