Whales? Travelling vendors? External wall changes! | Rust Update 26th April 2024

[@SHADOWFRAX]

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[@asparagusalex]

They are terrible 😭their management purchase independant projects and leave them to die such as Yeeti. As for their servers.. plenty of other companies have better features and resources for an equal or reduced price. Always shop around to find the best offer available.

[@psemar]

30% code not working for me

[@BlackenedCoffee]

out of all updates can we get a hard recoil to learn? this new recoil doesn't hit fam, ik you hear this a lot but you have some type of word they will hear out.. nothing but love here, just miss old recoil

[@HardStyle-Soul]

@@psemar Don't use them. Never pay for slots, it's so outdated

[@allesgutnatur]

FACEPUNCH can we pls get more node spawns :(

[@ProfessorOfCookies]

So the tax for benches will only really affect solos and duos really, larger groups will have no issue getting the scrap for it and it wont alter their gameplay at all. WHile solos and duos are now going to have a harder time researching.

[@VvvnimaL]

Lmao legit on every video there's some bot saying solo waaaah. Stop crying and get good. Noob.

[@DSandolu]

Classic Facepunch

[@ALEXZANDER_YT]

@@DSandolu based

[@VvvnimaL]

@@ItsMeBarnaby play on group capped servers if you can't hang

[@RadicalRoberts]

its no different though to get those 8+ people all bps would cost the same amount doesn't affect anyone any different

[@deepspaceyt4631]

that tax update is just nerfing solos once again.

[@shqiperia60]

One more reaaon to quit this game

[@buzz4332]

@@shqiperia60 there should be no tech tree like before all these babies complained

[@kushking949]

yeah was about to play this again nevermind@@shqiperia60

[@Pogal]

@@buzz4332 Tbf all the tech tree did was remove the randomness. Before the tec htree you could still do random researches in the benches. Personaly I was normaly quire lucky and used to get exactly what I wanted from the random researches.

[@johnmadara1252]

its nerfing everything, i dont want to spend a 100 hours researching things every month. it takes away from buying vehicles and crafting things to simply play the game

[@splitcoin123]

plz no taxes i cant spend more time solo farming

[@Mwuff7775]

Don't farm then?

[@ttedder]

THATS LITERALLY THE WHOLE POITNT STOP FARMING SCRAP

[@HannibalBarca247BCE]

It's to encourage players to find items and research them using a research table, as that will be cheaper. Of course there is a higher risk that comes with that. It's all about a balance, not sure this is the right balance, but there has to be a balance within the game between these things.

[@aandrei1693]

to everyone replying to this comment, yall must be either play 10 deep or play ded servers

[@HannibalBarca247BCE]

@@aandrei1693 How did you come to that conclusion? You don't think there needs to be a balance between high risk and low risk in this game? Have you ever actually played Rust?

[@DeltaRaizen]

The tax system should be based on how many players have access to the base or doors and tcs even if they dont have access to it (tc) and even they have different bases as long as they have access to the bases the tax would equal to how many players are there in the base with shared door codes and tcs doing so makes the solo players and other zergs/clans would have to put equal effort in getting the tech tree researches.

[@johnmadara1252]

solo players have the absolute worst mentality in the game go touch a codelock for once

[@testtube1842]

@@johnmadara1252 No, zergs do. They wipe out everyone in the first week and wonder why the servers are dead.

[@Azd1r]

No, no, and no, alt rust account with bag placed in a zergs base just there to craft. Have done this before on an alt pc and given access to that pc so more than one person can access crafting at one time, your idea is completely useless even if my part 2 to this comment wouldn't work for whatever reason which I've seen it done allrrady btw.

[@peshno13]

30 second restricted build on foundations is going to bee a PITA when first building a base. On upgraded foundations is one thing but Twig? Also I have to pay enough taxes in life. A workbench tax is dumb.

[@ninpo-2103]

we can review~tax them

[@Bullminator]

I would personaly prefer if they just removed stupid puzzles.

[@CrowRust]

You should mention how the change to triangles will affect building. Any exploits that need a pixel gap will no longer work.

[@robertthompson3077]

So basically every offset bunker in the game is gone now...

[@CrowRust]

@@robertthompson3077 They were pretty much patched anyway since December but yea now they'll be completely unbuildable with no workarounds.

[@robertthompson3077]

@@CrowRust The God Bunker and a few others relying on build outs still worked. This feels like it will remove everything but the basic foundation bunkers and possible stair bunkers

[@bullfrog521]

I think horizontal pixel bunkers will still work.

[@gonefishing5536]

Guess kill respawn bunkers will be the only option soon 😂

[@crady167x]

People have been hating on the tech tree for years, Alistair: we've heard the players and decided not to listen.

[@macy1066]

Not everyone hates it.

[@alexandereldred7232]

I miss the old fashioned workbench where you could take a gamble and get a random BP

[@majormajorasic]

@@alexandereldred7232 Honestly should return gambling BP gains and have it be tax-free.

[@user-dg6lh2mt8g]

No,no they listened and decided to make it worse

[@abbygaleforcewind]

"People"

[@zapp91]

It increasingly looks like facepunch doesn't want people to play their game.

[@buzz4332]

no you are just not good enough

[@404cpt9]

@@buzz4332 🤡

[@ThighHIghs-y2n]

@@buzz4332 no making the tech tree worse when it was already bad was so dumb

[@ThighHIghs-y2n]

@@buzz4332 it was to target large clans so they cant just tech tree but it was a lazy way and made it just harder for solos and a LITTLE difference for clans

[@helium5912]

morwe reaosn to play modded

[@Pogal]

Whales but still no pufferfish? Unacceptable!

[@SHADOWFRAX]

Haha lol

[@Skeiln]

Think ur in the wrong game brother, thats in raft

[@PianoDentist]

Whales but no bowl of petunias?

[@James-bc7sk]

Cuttlefish

[@rob6362]

Pufferfish poisonous arrows

[@Magiholic_]

I have to assume the team HATES solos and duos. Almost all recent changes have made it so solos suffer the most. None of these changes affect teams of 3 or more. Kinda of disappointing that solos are essentially being relegated to solo only servers. At least that's what it feels like to me.

[@astrobappo9133]

For anyone complaing about recent changes "not being fair" most recent changes: no walls so people can now just roof camp (oh wait I can just place it when they aren't looking) shiver me timbers I can't upgrade my wall when it has c4 on it making it harder to just HQM my entire base oh dear I'm getting taxed now I'm going to have to use my brain when I want to research things or u know farm for another 3mins for that extra 10% scrap oil rig now has a underwater stop so solos and anyone alike can camp and rat cargo now goes to harbors so solos and anyone alike can camp and rat Heli now flies to the nearest monument so solos and anyone alike can camp and rat electricity now is easier solos and anyone alike doesn't have to use brain Bradley scientist so solos and anyone alike don't camp and rat Ur Bradley night light so solos and anyone alike can camp and rat bags so solos and anyone alike can carry more stuff metal detector? STFU you god forsaken noobs

[@IlIlIIIIlIlIIlIll]

​@@astrobappo9133 This comment is so braindead and most of what you said doesn't benefit solos lmao.

[@TwistedFireX]

@@astrobappo9133any thing solos do clans can do better

[@astrobappo9133]

@@TwistedFireX my brother in Christ have you watched a single rust youtube solo video or even I small group I swear if u are not winning against most clans then quit the game. I mostly play duo vital 10x... but have dominated servers multiply times with different people, I don't understand Ur logic just get better and then win every fight ez

[@htcd325]

@@astrobappo9133says if you’re not winning against clans, quit the game >Plays on a duo only 10x vital server lmao..

[@sketty3401]

So much of this detriments solo play. Scrap tax doesn’t matter to clans, but to a single dude it does. A clan doesn’t really need walls to deploy instantly just due to sheer numbers, but a solo does. The raiding thing with wall upgrades, although fair, sucks for people playing against much larger groups.

[@PabloEscobar-ws8rz]

Stop crying, of course a 16 man is going to have an advantage over a solo go play solo servers if you care about it

[@dragoncop]

the game is always going to favor a clan most if not all games do

[@EtutEagl]

So many things that benefit solo players now too, though, you can now raid clans who are online 24/7 without them pulling any crazy tricks that they usually do, you can pickup external walls you misplace, something clans don't need to worry about, because they just have designated builders with the 8000 hours of experience. And Heli will target the biggest threat, mainly clans roaming, as a priority. Clans can't insta place High Walls and push your position, granted you can't do so to defend yourself either so it's a eh, 50/50 balance really. And MLRS has it's time to use again, ramped up, meaning you don't have to worry about clans raiding you and hitting you every 10 minutes with MLRS rockets. Which also means you can't do that either, but you aren't solo raiding a clan if you are also using MLRS. Scrap tax just means you use the Research table more, especially when you kill the Clan member out farming and get his full metal ak.

[@EtutEagl]

Also, Cargo docks twice, so you get a second chance to push that clan on Cargo if they haven't left already, but that will also mean you'll need to leave quickly, if you win the 1st attempt.

[@Noah-tq1du]

​@@EtutEagl IMO they shouldnt have shown the highwall change without showing a alternative that isnt dogshit. The maps are extremely open with very little cover so they should have announced a smaller set of walls similar to the Ice walls that are meant to be used for PvP first instead of just removing highwalls and hoping noone would get mad. If they dont plan on adding anything useful, I think its a very bad Change both for Solos and Clans because since the recoil update you can get beamed by anyone with 100hours not to even mention the scripters (anyone with a logitech mouse) who you will have to have a 150m+ spraying battle against cause u cant really push aggresively because theres no walls walls. Usually I used to do that because if they they cant pull down to the left, they wont be good enough to PvP up close.

[@gnoel5722]

It is like Facepunch watched an AloneinTokyo video and banned every Raid protection strategies he uses. 1. Can't quickly reseal compound anymore 2. Can't smoke an area and quickly rebuild destroyed walls 3. Can't reverse grenaded walls in raid defence 4. No more offset bunkers 5. Tax on scraps (affecting mostly solo/duos) . Next month update: "Every player name starting with ALONE and ending with TOKYO are banned from the game... "

[@x8sNaKe8x]

Aloneintokyo is scripted anyway. Same server same ppl

[@TyrHeimdal]

@@x8sNaKe8x No, it's not scripted. He's from Australia thus servers are quite limited because of latency. Hence why it's "always the same" (asian) people.

[@insanity2929]

@@x8sNaKe8x imagine being this dumb

[@SirHille]

The first thing that came to my mind after reading the Alistar Post. Punch in the guts for solos.

[@aurafrostx]

Well, if AIT can do it so well as a solo, why can't more ppl? That's the thought behind him, Willjum, Sleth, ect.... Check how much Sleth gets in trouble for just by using items in game creatively. I lo e the solo life but I'll be dawned to farm more scrap every single update.

[@NANOTECHYT]

Every update they buff groups and nerf solos, duos or trios. How are you supposed to defend a raid now as a solo from a big group? You can't place walls to secure your compound and loot boom, instead the enemy large group can just W key you. The only thing solos had to destroy big clan bases, was MLRS, well it's been nerfed to 20 minutes from 10, giving them more time to rebuild. You can't place foundations if some big group is trying to foundation wipe you. Tech tree now has a tax which gives bigger groups an even larger advantage as they can gather scrap more quickly and accelerate their progression even faster. A large group can now C4 your wall and you cannot upgrade it to stop or slow an impending raid (before shooting it was a good balance to prevent this sort of tactics, but now it's just a default...). Nerf to bunkers, which was a tool mainly used by smaller players to avoid being raided by big groups... They nerfed Heli a few weeks ago too where it runs away if you can't shoot it down fast enough, but it was a good way to get boom as a small group. I know this is "subject to change" but do they even play their own game? What are these retarded changes?

[@stewartcoltharp-zl7lh]

i mean I agree with a chunk of this but the c4 one is a reach 💀 if anything the c4 change benefits the small groups that actually use c4

[@NANOTECHYT]

@@stewartcoltharp-zl7lh It's not reaching, it was a skill to shoot before putting down C4. They just removed it from the game and gave it automatically to dumb zergs.

[@ilyarepin7750]

bro what are you talking about mlrs? I have never once used that and neither has anyone else I know because the mlrs rockets are so rare and hard to get. The only people I ever see use em are large clans who are constantly controlling oil and cargo. Also, the people I see placing walls most often are again geared players who you catch out in the open and they just insta-wall like its UKN. MLRS isnt gonna destroy a well built honey combed metal base anyway, like the kind clans often have. Instead its good for taking out a few stone walls.

[@NANOTECHYT]

@@ilyarepin7750 > bro what are you talking about mlrs? I have never once used that and neither has anyone else I know because the mlrs rockets are so rare and hard to get. Bro has never seen a Blazed video it seems. > The only people I ever see use em are large clans who are constantly controlling oil and cargo. You can get them actually quite easily as a solo by doing Mil Tuns and getting the three Elite Crates without cards. Tacularr has a video where he just farms the tuns for them to take out big groups. > Also, the people I see placing walls most often are again geared players who you catch out in the open and they just insta-wall like its UKN. Sure that happens and this does nerf it too, but like I said, go watch an Aloneintokyo video, he primarily walls his compound to loot boom and slow down a raid or prevent it altogether. > MLRS isnt gonna destroy a well built honey combed metal base anyway, like the kind clans often have. Instead its good for taking out a few stone walls. It's primarily for taking out turrets and destroying roof access, not the whole base... You could use it to destroy a whole base if you offlined them with multiple strikes, but that's rare. It's like I said primarily to take out turrets, destroy roof access and maybe like you said to destroy the stone walls or compound walls. It's really the only way a small solo can take out a large base on their own. Otherwise you will get W keyed while trying to HV turrets.

[@JC-km5xw]

​@@ilyarepin7750 no disrespect intended here brother but I think you need to get much better at the game if you think that. I play mostly solo and im usually drowning in mlrs every wipe

[@GhostMP4Rust]

removing the walls in under 10 minutes is nice tho

[@logic9436]

about time.

The old ways 😂

[@bard184]

Fps +

[@Saltywengiell]

awful, game is more and more easy

[@Chris-qr3ce]

And everything else is unwanted and stupid...

[@GTAVIClips-V1]

They should add beach caves. That would make for some cool ocean bases but maybe too OP

[@stinksofbeefio]

Like the cove on Hapis, just a little smaller

[@GTAVIClips-V1]

@@stinksofbeefio never played hapis actually need to try it now

[@dyslexcii]

I feel like increasing scrap for the tech tree is not the way to go. The one thing both solos and clans have the same of is time, so instead have the tech tree have a cooldown. When you research something, you are put on a 30 minute timer before being able to research something new. This would still encourage going out to find blueprints for the research table, while allowing the tech tree to be a consistent way to get the blueprints, albeit with a timer now. For the PVP wall change, I think using building privileges would be a better route. When in your own building privilege, you can still place walls right away, while outside of this area would have the timer applied. This would allow raid defenses still, while pushing players towards using the quicker wooden walls as they want. If they still want a delay, maybe just half the time in building privileges, but either way I think it would help keep raid defense usable.

[@koroplays3200]

I can't imagine the logic in adding taxes to a game with no actual economy

[@Schizmo]

Using the Tech Tree is already subject to a tax because you have to unlock stuff you don't necessarily want to use, the addition of a further tax is a little bit insulting

[@Canadarox69]

It seems like everything is being changed to discourage solo play at almost every turn. Heli fleeing should NOT be a thing at all. Given how quickly it can shred you out in the open and the dangers in following it, not only from Heli itself, but the number of players you need to encounter to get to a place you could fight Heli again is, again, feeling like playing solo is a detriment to any progression. If you are going to have a tax for grinding out the scrap to get the workbench in the 1st place ... why bother having WB's at all. Just make the whole game based on having to research drops instead of using a tech tree. At least that would be fairer than penalizing solo players exclusively.

[@therealmooo]

RIP solo vs clan raid defence videos :( The building update might end up hurting solo players more...

[@AlexTJ-]

Rip Aloneintokyo vids

[@VvvnimaL]

Play on group cap servers then?

[@Beardedprof]

@@VvvnimaL That aint the point lol

[@xisplo]

The devs have hated on solo players for years. It's nothing new

[@RN-ez1ii]

@@xisplo Solo players are probably less likely to buy multiple copies of the game due to using cheats.

[@Leon-zc4ef]

So no fix for horses getting stuck on the slightest thing? They can't even cross rail tracks now.

[@hns_203]

Horses not being fixed is honestly the biggest solo nerf here, way more than some barely significant tax.

[@daybidbanderbecht5299]

There already was a workbench tax. You had to research a bunch of trash you don't need to get the thing you want. Also, the heli rework should just be completely rolled back. Having it flee midfight is dumb af. Another great update from the smoothbrains at facepunch.

[@PabloEscobar-ws8rz]

No more offset bunkers 😔 5:00

[@allenbee3-022]

and it probably stops pixel floor gaps too. ☹

[@Nxtn]

No need to buy server hosts to build anymore when u cant be creative

[@Ci4stk0_]

Its a great news

[@pinheadlarry3605]

were too op for solos sadly, so they had to go

[@effyouceeekay]

Awe cry

[@ETr4d3]

Tech tree needs to be removed all together, before items were so much more valuable. You find a ladder, you run back home to research it, you find a wall, run back, find a hatch, run back.. Now you just ignore most of the items and loot only guns/ammo/meds. Also, we had so many shops around the map, people were selling electrical stuff, ammo, guns, garage doors.

[@TIsForThomas]

Plus it incentivied going to higher tier monuments because only in those places could you find the high tier stuff like tier 3 guns and boom. Now you can just roofcamp an oxums for 10 hours and get every bp

[@TheeFFrisky]

I think the main reason we get the kind of updates we get is because most of the player base plays weekly wipes. The game was built on the idea it wipes on force wipe every month so the design meta is just the devs trying to make these weekly wipes fun to keep people playing. I could survive a monthly wipe in a stone 2x2 before the tech tree was added because explo ammo wasn't so easy to get for small groups and mini copters weren't a thing so people didn't really travel across the map to raid you like they will now.

[@henriquealmeida7346]

Deveriam voltar com aquele sistema de páginas que vc transformava em livros e depois aprendia muito melhor doque esse scrap

[@gonefishing5536]

I agree, all the people whinging about it probly want ak full kit starts on main branch to 😂😂😂

[@jooot_6850]

you shouldn't need to research a ladder bro it's like 10 twigs tied together

[@sharLeyyysharLey]

We should craft barricades from Bones also

[@IM-xs3uv]

The work bench tax is BS. Another attack on solo players.

[@VvvnimaL]

Maybe make some friends or play on group capped servers of you suck

[@smellyrust]

will the high wall thingy apply to wooden high walls too?

[@SHADOWFRAX]

Yes it does

[@SovietOT]

The addition of removing walls with a hammer is amazing but a rlly dumb thing they did is add a cooldown to the placement of a wall. This changes the most important aspect of the game which is pvp, now when your in the snow or any open land you cant place a wall to cover yourself / protect you from getting killed. In my opinion they should really think about this and hopefully not go through with it.

[@zaneroberts8355]

Still doesn’t make sense for heli to run away period when it’s so aggressive all other times. just giving it away after I did 70% damage to it is insane

[@felixfeder7106]

it only makes sense from a realism standpoint, naturally if a pilot’s armored helicopter gets shot at too much he wants to not get shot at anymore BUT Rust is FAR from realistic

[@mikevalentino2225]

I think learning from the benches should be way more expensive like 50% to 100% tax and the first week of wipe should not allow using the benches to learn anything unless they add back in the gambling feature where you spend like 75 for a random bp on tier one ect. Team lead should auto share all team bp's with group. They should make external walls double the cost but make them 50% stronger and unrepairable other than a super slow natural self repair over time if they are not already. They should add mercenaries and guard dogs to roam around your compound which costs scrap to maintain out of like a guardhouse type thing to help prevent offline raids.

[@roysen2406]

R.I.P solo gameplay

[@Gamerfanize]

solo has been trash since new recoil

[@Bullminator]

I just play on solo only servers.

[@TK-uf1vd]

@@Gamerfanizesince the graphical update you mean?

[@poptarget9214]

we got taxes in rust now 😢

[@ttabood7462]

Ya, that's a really dumb idea. There's no gov't to fund so what's the point.

[@cordrust]

@@ttabood7462 outpost scientists gotta get payed

[@aishtaealatalniyranfialsaqie]

@@ttabood7462 It might be cool if the taxes went to maybe a rust lottery ticket you bought at outpost or something. Or maybe just contributed to random events such as air drop or heli.

[@chuppy6938]

Vote trump 2024 and i can assure this will change!

[@kire5991]

@@ttabood7462 its not dumb, its to encourage people fighting and finding the items to research instead of only farming scrap all day, which is more expensive now.

[@ronaldsockman485]

Haven't played Rust in so long, but I always watch Shadowfrax videos. Feels like news for a world I don't live in anymore. Cheers.

[@o00Rusty00o]

Wall rotation with explosive on is a big change!

[@Bullminator]

They probaly did this due to players placing explosive on wall and then turning it araund, killing players on other side. Tho you can probaly still do a window grenates.

[@liamgolio]

Next update : get banned if you don't joins a team in your first 10 minutes on a serverr

[@Saltywengiell]

clan members are not so good, give them an hour to get to the base spot.

[@WhyYouAskingMe]

First, they limit the number of auto turrets you can have. Now they are making it harder to build and rebuild. They still have done nothing to mitigate server loot data from going to every client on the server. I may as well just leave all the doors to my base open and have no locks on my loot boxes.

[@Robinhartz]

What’s up w server loot data??

[@robertthompson3077]

@@Robinhartz It's what allows hackers to know whats in your base/boxes

[@WhyYouAskingMe]

@Robinhartz The game is programmed so that all servers constantly send every players loot data to every player on the server at all times. Regardless of loot owner, line of sight, or distance. This makes it insanely easy to exploit since the information is being sent to your computer.

[@WhyYouAskingMe]

​@robertthompson3077 Potential solutions: Distance-based loot visibility: Only send loot location data to clients within a certain radius of the container. This reduces the amount of information clients receive and makes it harder to exploit for distant locations. Partial loot information: Instead of sending the complete contents of a container, send only basic information like container type. Players would need to physically access the container to see its full contents. Exploiting the location of loot containers would still be possible but exploiters wouldn't know which containers have your booms. Line-of-sight checks: Only send loot information for containers within a player's line of sight. This would require additional processing but make exploiting loot location data impossible.

[@AJ-uk6ft]

Thank you Frax for detailing exactly why I will continue my break from rust.... They are still breaking it for solo's like me.

[@Shadow-sh1mp]

I love that you don’t stretch your videos to 10 minutes but instead keep it quick and sweet gives me enough time to watch these warming my car up

[@chaosmii]

My favorite thing in this game is solo/small group defending my base against a large group. They took away replacing high external walls quickly, put an arbitrary limit on turrets, allowed other groups to short my remaining turrets out, changed recoil for accessibility and homogenization so there's no more being "good" at shooting, now I cant replace foundations which is pretty important when a 20 man is spam rocketing your core, and I cant use high externals for cover when the majority of servers look like barren battleground maps with no cover now. Oh and scrap inflation in a game i use to escape irl worries about actual inflation, cool. At this point video games need different versions, some people like legacy, some people liked 2020 rust, some people like this CoD rust now, just give us the option to choose. I want to play the game I bought, I enjoyed that game.

[@JHutchGAMES]

As a solo Rust streamer. The tech tree change is the worst change in the past 2 years. All its doing is making full time working dads like myself have to spend even more hours in the game that we simply dont have. Why not just make researching items on the research table cheaper than tech treeing them? Having the same exact effect and not highly nerfing solos who dont have 6 hrs a day to dedicate to the game..

[@LA.August]

rust work benches gotta keep up with inflation

[@chimkhokkruad]

don't worry, soon there will be a p2p system in rust

[@lussor1]

Some p2w item that reduces tax​@@chimkhokkruad

[@chimkhokkruad]

@@lussor1 good one!

[@chimkhokkruad]

@@pldat haha, yeah that would be nasty but ur unto somethin'... these guys knows how to drain our pockets

[@HideYaWife69]

Bidennomics coming to a rust server near you.

[@IFarmBugs]

I hope building and item placement times get added to a lot more things. Even on vanilla servers there's already compounds on the second day of wipe, before most people get a chance to play over the weekend...

[@stewartcoltharp-zl7lh]

Honestly if everyone just moved to monthly servers and played more slowly, i think the whole game would benefit

[@TheLifeOfAnIndividual]

Thank you for the service you provide! We love you Shadow even when rust keeps screwing over the Solos!

[@SHADOWFRAX]

❤️

[@MrProbstandrew]

WAIT!? did they just "remove" offset bunkers and simular things!? ..the triangle alignments fix?

[@pete8420]

If you look at the subteddit, it seems like they are the ones that wanted these changes, not the rest of us.

[@CircusFoxxo]

FP has been balancing and developing this game for the 10 guys on the subreddit since 2017 anyway

[@shqiperia60]

Time to quit this game for good

[@moto3463]

Dead game

[@pete8420]

They nerfed tech trees and buffed recyclers outside safe zones. I'm happy with this. This makes it better

[@tibibadin4966]

Well the tax should depend on team size , heli update sounds nice and also the Gunplay i hope it will remove Aimcone and bring bag Hard Pattern [like in the old recoil] but harderd so not everyone can straight line with a fck AK etc, in my opinion during old recoil it was way more balanced , AK, MP5 for beamers / LR , Custom for everyone who are not good in holdin the pattern.

[@bruman182]

The explosives on the wall stopping the residents from upgrading is stupid. It should be on the raiders to damage the wall before that if they do no want it upgraded. Another crutch mechanic that will add to the slow death of the OG playerbase.

[@JustKatoh]

Perfectly, exactly what I needed, it wasn't enough the 50 man zerg was after my crappy solo base, now I can't even quickly reapair it for defenses either, amazing!

[@Javyelo]

The heli fleeing basically just makes it impossible for a solo to take

[@frozen9065]

Gave up on rust solo little over a year ago. The skill ceiling is jus to high and can’t compete with 4 man’s anymore 😢

[@Javyelo]

Yeah I haven’t been playing either is hard enough playing against people with 10,000 hours on top of that facepunch makes it impossible to keep up with clans

[@David-jd9ze]

3 second timer to place a wall? Absolutely terrible idea. And a timer for destroying your foundation? Bunker base building in shambles. Terrible idea.

[@spacedaniel492]

It's almost like people will havetoasaptand change their pkaystyles

[@allenbee3-022]

@@spacedaniel492 did you have a stroke?

[@NinjapowerMS]

This is what happens when you update your game monthly. Now they're just changing stuff for the sake of changing it. It's already been goober fest ever since the recoil change because anyone with half a brain can just spray you down from behind if they shot first. Taking the only thing that could protect you from it would just encourages lame fights, No pushing/engagement plus silencers. I was thinking I could just carry a building plan and make do with it but glad face punch hates fun and adding debri to it as well.

[@Ci4stk0_]

ohhh the pvp enjoyer is crying about the walls...hahaha

[@deamooz9810]

@@furygaming180 exactly

[@buckslayer9129]

that tax thing is so stupid wtf

[@LeanSt]

devs were basically like "this ain't mfing fortnight"

[@bingbing-ti2rv]

0:32 Oh no more useless changes that will affect the Solos / small groups, and give even more advantages to big clans... Destroyed foundations not being immediatly rebuildable, compound walls now taking 3sec to place instead of instant, C4 prevents from upgrading when it's placed on a wall, and a Techtree tax (as if scrap wasn't already hard to get for small groups already)... Jesus we gettin' taxed even in video games now ?? 😂 all jokes asides, this will make it even harder for Solos/Duos now... Imagine defending a raid against a clan and you can't seal the base quick enough and they have time to all come back even after you've killed the entire clan. And forget about walling in the middle of a PvP Fight now... Nah all of that sucks man, oh and that new Heli AI update jesus it needs to be removed as well ! Give us back our old Heli , i feel like every updates makes it easier for clans and harder for solos/duos...

[@vycanis2146]

How about if the taxes increase depending on the amount of people that have auth on the TC? that makes more sense and won’t affect solo players.

[@AdamThundercock]

Another reason to not play as a solo, I’ll come back in a few months

[@KrazyTrumpeter05]

The workbench tax is a head scratching solution. It punishes solo/duo and big groups will see pretty much no difference.

[@SarahNotSara]

Thank you for always creating such informative content Shadow. ❤ These updates are going to hit solo/duo's hard, yet barely any consequence to clans which is bs. New heli is awful and is almost impossible for a solo to take. Bench tax idea is stupid as it only makes things more difficult for solo/duo's. The whale looks like it could be fun if done properly.

[@taqmobile]

Walls should be insta-placeable when you are in TC. Should only take 3 seconds if using for PVP walls

[@VvvnimaL]

Why?

[@SergiuES]

@@VvvnimaL because placing walls is alr dangerous now with a 3 second timer grubs will easily come to steal ma walls, and its not walls are insta replace so it wont make a diff if u defend a raid since theres alr the wooden/stone wall debris

[@taqmobile]

@@VvvnimaL yea should be obvious. The point of the delay is to prevent people spamming walls during pvp, but that shouldn't hinder people trying to build their own compound when small movements are necessary for exact fit

[@godspeedfx]

@@taqmobile Wouldn't work. Place a TC where you are PvPing and then insta wall for PvP is back again. You know that's exactly what people would do XD

[@taqmobile]

@@godspeedfx The idea is to prevent people from using high walls in emergency situations. People drop walls as they are getting shot, they aren't breaking out building plans to build a triangle, then hammer to upgrade it to wood... Then place a TC.. Then place a wall. That's not how it works ma boy

[@TC-dk6do]

What ever happened to the armored base skin? Did they just give up?

[@cyntrix3060]

Imagine if rust added trading windows for cars

[@YuckFoutube-e1z]

dRUG DEALS ALL DAY LONG

[@zawseh1553]

Already a thing Taxi module

[@cyntrix3060]

@@zawseh1553 yeah but I thought you could only trade through it on certain servers

[@thew26x]

i really dont understand the heli changes... how are you supposed to kill heli now

[@Snapple_apple]

this update looks GREAT for solos and really taxing for clans!!! (im lying)

[@Za_Poom]

25% for tier 1, 50% for tier 2, 75% for tier 3. Needs to be more

[@RazjaGaming]

Whale blubber the new OP version of animal fat?

[@TKing95]

So this triangle foundation change breaks what, building out to do external TCs that reduce the cost of your base by building your external peeks and shooting floor off them? And what else, pixel bunkers?

[@matt7253]

Sounds like it

[@godspeedfx]

It won't affect building out to place external TCs or widegaps.

[@lmPhiladelphia]

It will probably break some pixel bunkers

[@dudeguydude3713]

THANKS FOR THE GREAT INFO!

[@josephmcclain6466]

The only way to fix the tech tree is to get rid of it entirely

[@Shadow.Hopper]

Bone walls when?

[@tbidzzzz]

Cool idea

[@travv88]

Stopping upgrade with C4 placement is good, stopping rotation is bad. Rotation was a cool strategy.

[@nicalos007]

These gunplay changes better be large

[@CrazyXRust]

large in the wrong direction we know the devs

[@YuckFoutube-e1z]

@@CrazyXRustAK bullet drop increased NOW IT LANDS AT YA FEET YOU MAGGOT!

[@WhiteGuyMike]

@@CrazyXRust It's going to be old recoil but on steriods lol.

[@Saltywengiell]

i pray for learnable recoil.

[@otek42o]

Every time I see these Shadowfrax Rust updates, I remember why I quit that game years ago!

[@TheChezMister]

hate the workbench change lol

[@purgatory1691]

downgrade after downgrade after downgrade i wonder when the next "UPDATE" will come instead of "downgrades"

[@Garthosaurus-Rex]

When the no-life's stop pushing away new players lol

[@apis7917]

No One gonna talk about how ugly that door controller wiring will look now ? or i'm i the only one with OCD here ?!

[@badynoitsme]

Old concept arts nice to see you put me into past back behind my old desk with my first PC watching new devblogs :D

[@logic9436]

Sigh, how clueless is that Tech Tree take?! Small groups and noobs struggling even more - and larger groups barely notice anything... Such a bad system and clueless change.

[@grnbchhdr7566]

Rip solo playing with taxes and defending is gonna be a nightmare to seal up the base

[@GrimmReaper1721]

I don't know who's coming up with these ideas like 3 second deployable external walls but it seems like Facepunch is hellbent on eliminating solo players and giving every advantage to large groups and clans.

[@juhaszeriik]

The tax should work in a way that you can unlock anything, but then you have to pay a tax of 10-150%. For example, you set your goal to only get the AK! So far we have: Lv1 50 Scrap Lv2 500 Scrap Lv3 1250 Scrap (That's already 1800 Scrap.) While unlocking, you got an additional 2500 Scrap, so: 4300. (By default, you just go and play the game, and the gameplay is designed so that you can find AK, oil rig, locked crate, airdrop, etc... So you can quickly get 1800 + 500 Scrap in return.) So what I would see as good is that we would still craft the LV3 for 1800, but you could immediately unlock the AK not for 2500 Scrap but for, let's say, 2000 Scrap with tax included. You saved 500 Scrap, but you won't have those items that you would unlock along the way. 2000 Scrap is just an example; we need to find a middle ground, which could be, for instance, 1400 Scrap. In summary, there would be three methods: When you just happen to find an AK and want to craft it yourself: 1800 + 500 Scrap When you only want the AK: 1800 + 1400 Scrap And when you go through the branches without tax, because we are honest and not bandits: 1800 + 2500 Scrap

[@k7gixxer1000]

No one was asking for Patrol Heli changes but leave it Facepuch to screw up something that's not broken.

[@TIsForThomas]

Wrong. Heli was broken

[@x-tremespeed]

There's a new staging branch beta called "main" where the door controller changes are, for some reason both the "no beta" and the "main" beta can connect to staging servers without issue though

[@info8984]

Holy crap stop changing the recoil every few months! >:(

[@benosonline]

Why does the heli flee at all? The decisions this team makes are so bizarre

[@deepsky7206]

This game keeps getting nerfed so hard, I half-expect Tic Tac Toe to become more dangerous than a game of dodgeball in a bullpen! I mean, soon we'll need hazard signs and safety gear just to make a move. "Caution: Extreme Tic Tac Toe ahead. Protective gear required. May cause spontaneous fits of laughter and unexpected existential crises

[@L33Tbii]

4:00 "Road Sign armor condition is increasing" what exactly does that mean?

[@Just.a.Random.furry.]

The road sign armor durability will be increased

[@DrPhilYourGap]

2023/2024 has been the worst year for game updates for like every game.... they keep ruining rust

[@fuzethehostage8898]

I’ve been a bit out of the loop for a while, mind telling me what they did?

[@St0neByte]

Me too I hate fun 😂

[@TheLaluciDaniel]

I got the notification for this video, and came here hopeful and hyped for some changes that might make me return to the game...and all I get is taxes!

[@Skeiln]

This game has become such a hassle for solo players, they promote way too much stuff that has no impact on large clans, matter in fact, it even helps them even more... The devs think everyone has friends who play rust with them everyday nolifing it like they got nothing else to do... i work 50h weeks, same as some of my friends, there is no way I can even get to everything in time while I am getting rekt everyday again by clans swimming in loot, making it extremely frustrating to having to start over everytime, eventually, I basicly went to other games cause its honestly not worth my time anymore, and ive been in this game since it came out but how older I got, the less time I have too And yes I could play on solo only servers, with basicly zero to no progression unless you play on a dead server lol and what is fun about that right... you either HAVE to nolife it, or restart on a daily base, fun fun fun.... lol

[@PabloEscobar-ws8rz]

Rust players when teams 8x their size have an advantage (this is inconceivable to them)

[@Honeycawt]

To be fair rust isn’t a solo game it’s made for 6 to 10 players. No shame in playing a solo or 6 man limit 2x server. Absolutely none. And you might have more fun and more time to pvp instead of solo grinding in a vanilla

[@OberWanKenobii]

@@Honeycawt Rust is a solo game. Its also a team game.

[@Saltywengiell]

Solo is still playable,its hard but playable. You cant blame the game because you are bad.

[@aaronwlkr]

I think high walls should be instant place while in TC range, and not combat blocked. Just so walling your base, will not be annoying slow. Dont really care about the other stuff. I think it's funny that people think scrap is hard to get these days. the tax could be 100% and it wouldn't slow me down much on vanilla, I normally have like 5k plus just sitting in boxes with nothing to use it for.

[@godspeedfx]

You know the PvP hounds would start carrying TCs on them and pre-place before fights so they can insta-wall again, lol. I like where your head is at though!

[@Vivosity]

L update. Good thing I quit this game months ago. Only good change in this is demolishing externals. Everything else is terrible and make solo play even worse.

[@maibemiles3904]

I think rust needs to add a half square floor/roof tile… (so a rectangle half the size of the full square.) I think that would open a whole world of possibilities to building and something fresh and new for everyone!

[@jennyr7688]

Alistair: we have too many players, how do we fix that? Ah yes remove off-set bunkers, make quick base building impossible. Sounds like a big "f you" to all players

[@Caffrof091]

yay not only was it hard being a solo only player but now its even harder LMAO GREAT UPDATE

[@AOD_AnkGrooger]

"Sorry, I keep doing this" I'm dead, just dead. absolutely amazing.

[@Ghost-gs5rd]

I would love that facepunch removed safe zones and make all the vending machines travel around the map, either by train or on the water. Would also make more people recycle in monuments

[@dustinbrown2248]

I get everyone saying it’s hurting small groups I don’t necessarily like the update myself. But I also understand in a game like rust balancing solo vs team play is extremely hard because every time you buff solo play you also boost team play it’s a hard scale to balance. In my opinion it’s easier to do as face punch does and nerf metas and watch how players adjust. I personally hope we see some even bigger changes in metas, new defense raiding methods.

[@Kevin-ls9zs]

What’s the point of the tax? May as well just make everything more expensive or am I missing something?

[@One-ny1hp]

The research tables will only slow down the solo players.. great work

[@geistdylan]

I like where rust is headed but the biggest thing for me is a change of environment. I want more realistic thicker forests and jungles. Maybe some gulches and bigger valleys.