@@CarWizardhave you ever seen the factory videos , they put entire dash in one huge module. seems like they aught to be easier to get out - if they go in in a huge module. ....................Just to know that trick!
@bmh67wa4 жыл бұрын
@@CarWizard, labor here where I live is outrageous compared to the prices I've seen you quote Hoovie to fix his stuff. If it wasn't for the travel you would have me for a customer. 👍
@andy-james-4 жыл бұрын
@@CarWizard No you are not, get over a few comments which said that. I'd much rather pay for you to fix any car of mine, knowing it gets done correctly, rather than take any chances.
@bngr_bngr4 жыл бұрын
Paul Schless thats how they assemble cars. Not how one takes them apart.
@chuckbrown6174 жыл бұрын
And this is why a good and honest mechanic is worth his/her weight in gold.
@mcf37784 жыл бұрын
aint no mechanic worth 5 million bucks
@ryans4134 жыл бұрын
Problem is trusting someone too find that good mechanic
@chriskeiffer58614 жыл бұрын
At almost 2grand an ounce?! 😂
@Teporame3 жыл бұрын
I have never found a honest mechanic, ever. They are more scarce than unicorns.
@davemasbutter2663 жыл бұрын
Finding them though is the issue.
@MarkOBrienTeaches4 жыл бұрын
That's an awesome way of putting it, "we don't get a paycut because we get better".
@kevinshort39434 жыл бұрын
It's not necessarily true though ........ Doing it quickly allows another job to be done = more money.
@MarkOBrienTeaches4 жыл бұрын
@@kevinshort3943 Sure, but it's hard to do something more quickly if you're inexperienced. I deal with that in my job quite often, but we don't get to charge more because we're more efficient, we just get more work in the same pay day.
@hotpuppy14 жыл бұрын
@@kevinshort3943 IF corners are not cut. Customer won't be happy as like what happened to this customer with the last job done by someone else.
@kevinshort39434 жыл бұрын
I didn't realise this was such a difficult concept to grasp? If you are good at something and therefore can do it to a high standard and quickly, more jobs can be done in the same time, equalling more money. So it isn't necessarily a "pay cut for getting better", to charge less for each job. The Wizard adds to the confusion by saying the "book hours charged", when he is really charging a flat rate (based on the book), not the amount of hours it actually takes him.
@MarkOBrienTeaches4 жыл бұрын
@@kevinshort3943 ok, so we're saying the same thing.
@aabidamn4 жыл бұрын
Somewhere out there, there is an old man wearing a pair of John Lennon sunglasses making wild hand gestures while saying, "Endless......Money......Pit!!!!"
@bawoodp4 жыл бұрын
"You know how many heaters cores I have done in lexus/toyota NONE!!" after the money pit line xD
@markkrispin69444 жыл бұрын
Truly a endless money pit!!
@markkrispin69444 жыл бұрын
@@nostickpeople gotta love the cat pillows.
@aabidamn4 жыл бұрын
@@bawoodp "Before we rip this thing apart, let me check this car with my fancy $5000 scan tool."
@bawoodp4 жыл бұрын
@@aabidamn ahahahhahahahahahhahahha yeah but first get rid off the beauty cover !!!!
@jbalogh013 жыл бұрын
When i was a mechanic many years ago, i dreaded when a land rover came in. The first 2 made me decide i will never touch another one.
@piercemccauley70792 жыл бұрын
It’s so funny how the wizard loves range rovers yet hates bmws
@markfreedman24703 жыл бұрын
Your attitude toward customers is priceless. You will always always do well.
@bmh67wa4 жыл бұрын
Wizard: Do you watch KZbin? Owner of Range Rover: What's a KZbin? Wizard: Good.
@fk45154 жыл бұрын
Gotcha beat $3,800 dollars for a $.12 O-ring on a skid steer loader. As far as flat rate if you want the guy who can do it in half the time he costs twice as much.
@hotpuppy14 жыл бұрын
Mostly for all the stuff he breaks in the process.
@joer88544 жыл бұрын
I had a mechanic that had a sign that said, I do things two of three ways. Fast cheap good. If you want it fast and cheap it's not going to be good, if you want it fast and good it's not going to be cheap, If you want it good and cheap it's not going to be fast. This is why.
@wobblysauce4 жыл бұрын
Everything adds up, and most times people write of vehicles from it and make it the next persons issue.
@networkservices31213 жыл бұрын
@LLC 5016 NASA Need Another Seven Astronauts. Need Another Shuttle Also... Too Soon?
@JimzAuto3 жыл бұрын
@@networkservices3121 Your reply blew me away :)
@rickjohnson16324 жыл бұрын
I feel sorry for the lady. She’s lucky to have found a shop like yours 👍
@edstephens92354 жыл бұрын
The engineers that designed this should have to perform this kind of repair. Maybe they'd come up with better designs.
@dmbassett4 жыл бұрын
Ed Stephens modern car manufacture - they all do this it’s not a Land Rover deign.
@edstephens92354 жыл бұрын
@@dmbassett And that's my point, indeed they "all" do it, but it's horrible design. There's no thought given to repair/replacement. The automotive press bears a great deal of responsibility here also, they obsess over 0-60 times and rarely call out manufacturers for poor design.
@jamest51494 жыл бұрын
@@edstephens9235 nope, you wouldn’t pay for the engineering to make this happen, it would make the new vehicle cost go through the roof, and not every car will need the evaporator changed, it’s not even a high percentage, I would guess less than 5% of cars will need a evaporator change in their life. Cars are designed and built for ease of build and reliability at a cost point.
@HunterShows4 жыл бұрын
It's done for convenience (cost) of manufacture - but it ultimately hurts their brand when owners label their cars unreliable and expensive to maintain, even when the parts aren't expensive.
@douglasmueller46843 жыл бұрын
Inworked at a large equipment manufacturing plant for years. The engineer who gets their section to print first gets to keep his design , others habe to work around him most of the time. So to put in perspective. The electrical eng picks his rout first. Well now hyd has to figure how to get around him then ac eng has to work around them, then the structural eng , and all parts are designed by differ people. So ya they don't care about repair, until the repair costs are charged against the warranty.
@agrippa12344 жыл бұрын
One of the scariest phrases in the car modding world; "While we're at it."
@andrefecteau3 жыл бұрын
no it isn't it's " it has to go to the dealer"
@LemmingRush_3 жыл бұрын
@@andrefecteau I never understood dealer fear, mine charges 10$ per hour more than canadian tire. I'd rather have someone who works in audis all the time if the difference is 10$
@andrefecteau3 жыл бұрын
@@LemmingRush_ umm maybe up there it is...but typically double to triple the cost here...for example clutch for my Cobra at dealer $1000? At local shop $4-500... Now my Infiniti has to go to the dealer for some things, but you avoid it at all cost...broke my key for it? $821 for a new one??? They only ones who have the "code"...it's why many people just have new cars, they fear repairs so much...
@galil_68633 жыл бұрын
"The engine has to come out"
@edwinterry53622 жыл бұрын
Life of a Audi owner. Always cheaper while they're in there...
@RobertGallop4 жыл бұрын
I’ve always heard that when they started the design of the range rover, they put a heater core on the table and said “Design an SUV around this”
@skyartrc82864 жыл бұрын
Same goes for a ford f150
@sabbathAndy4 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha dude 😂
@thomasw47094 жыл бұрын
The Mercedes W140 is worse. I think that joke was originally coined for the W140
@hotpuppy14 жыл бұрын
ALL cars are like that.
@JoJoGunn19564 жыл бұрын
@@skyartrc8286 Same for an '01 Passat wagon.
@thecman264 жыл бұрын
An expensive repair on what? Oh a Range Rover... Ok that makes total sense!
@theshield16134 жыл бұрын
Land rover and jaguars are a piece of junk
@bigjml4 жыл бұрын
The Shield Fitted with a Ford engine.....
@stevegrieb65964 жыл бұрын
i understand where you are coming from. I do computer service, and one of the most common things I do is Malware remediation. I generally try to get clients with severe issues to let me take the computer to the shop and let it run remediation software while I go other jobs. Sometimes the client wants me to remain on site. If I sit with my but planted in a chair running Malware scans, I charge for every minute I sit in front of that computer when I could be letting the scans run unattended and be doing other work. So our situations are certainly not identical but are analogous. Our training, our experience and our time is what make us valuable. Doing it right also counts.
@CarWizard4 жыл бұрын
Sad to think that such a basic principle eludes some folks.
@davidtoups46842 жыл бұрын
Back when I used to listen to Car Talk on NPR, a lady called in with a leaking heater core. The way Tom and Ray described it was: "It's like this, when they built your car, they set a heater core on the production line, then built the entire car around it". That's always stuck with me!
@sarahdell40423 жыл бұрын
Not even 10 years old. Welcome to Land Rover ownership! ❤️
@mikedodge39104 жыл бұрын
The world is a better place because of open and honest mechanics like you. Thank you Wizard!
@johnnyhawk3294 жыл бұрын
This is why I love my 1977 chevy pickup. Still going strong.
@jbalogh013 жыл бұрын
Same here. 1990 chevy pickup. Easy and cheap to fix. Hasnt stranded me.
@Dagrizzb3 жыл бұрын
Just engine swapped my 97 k1500, only money spent was parts.
@vorant773 жыл бұрын
I'm with ya, its why I still have my 1989 F150 4.9l with the 5-speed manual trans, bought it new BTW in 89.
@chrislangstaff4 жыл бұрын
Car Wizard: "I love delivering shockers!" Mrs. Wizard: 😐
@floppyseizure86154 жыл бұрын
I was just about to post the same thing. Mrs. Wizard was probably thinking, "you're not giving ME a shocker."
@tctwg14 жыл бұрын
😭😂😂😭😭😂
@maxst24 жыл бұрын
giggity
@JML19874 жыл бұрын
"Wow car wizard! I've got some crazy amount of leg room back here in the back seat!" - her words, not mine
@JML19874 жыл бұрын
"Mrs Wizard had to stand on a stool so she could take this all in" Sorry after reading your comment and watching the video I can't help but giggle
@absentmindedjwc3 жыл бұрын
"You really don't want to bring the customer in to see all of this tear down" I don't know about other people, but I personally would find this cool as hell, haha.
@johnmcenroe17603 жыл бұрын
absentmindedjwc Yeah cool to see but at the same time hurt my heart a little. :)
@brandonlink65683 жыл бұрын
If they complain a lot about the cost you call them in when it's all town apart to show them what they're paying for.
@steveohhh57764 жыл бұрын
When I was a tech at the Ford dealership I got soooo good at R/R heater cores on F-Series trucks Explorer's, Expedition's and Excursions I LOVED when they came in!!! But once I became a service writer I HATED selling Heater Core job's customer's just didn't understand why it was so much $$$
@CrCRicanMD4 жыл бұрын
8 year old range rover. This is just the beginning 🤣
@jamest51494 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily so, they are and can be reliable and compatible other makes, people neglect their cars and wonder with lack of servicing, neglect and cutting corners, why they have issues 90%of the time. Ford and GM’s have a long history of common failures and in-reliability as well, a lot of these will be owner induced issues and faults.
@bassplayer2011ify3 жыл бұрын
@@jamest5149 Truth! Any time I end up talking about cars with someone one of the first questions I ask is "When was the last time you got your oil changed?" The amount of people that neglect simple preventative maintenance makes my head. And then I turn around and recommend a shop that is owned by a close family friend (great and honest mechanic 4 bays and the lot is always full) and he gives me a little discount.
@slimtimes.l.l.c40813 жыл бұрын
Aw man
@don-cw1yz3 жыл бұрын
@@jamest5149 Well they don't sell a lot of Landrovers. So the dealer needs to make money and will overcharge for parts labour and like to find things that are wrong with your Landrover, especially when it is out of warranty. A 5-year-old Landrover starts to become a money pit very quickly, that why they depreciate so quickly.
@m.b57773 жыл бұрын
@@jamest5149 nothing to do with neglect. TFL guys on youtube bought a brand new land Rover and after a few days of normal driving it needed a new engine. I know someone who works at Land rover dealership. The engine check light comes on brand new cars with less than 1000 miles. He deals with many pissed off customers
@Peter-MH4 жыл бұрын
Samcrac is watching & taking notes!..
@houseofno4 жыл бұрын
You hadn't heard? Samcrac drove it three miles before the engine failed so he took it back to the salvage yard.
@Q4tay4 жыл бұрын
Man samcrac is gonna shut his channel down 😂
@s282781874 жыл бұрын
Samcrac called quits on his range rover, definitely the right choice after seeing this
@imranyaqub17904 жыл бұрын
I thought that was Samcrac’s car at first. 🤣
@theobserver12194 жыл бұрын
Oh man! Samcrac must be saying damn!
@jeffreyrwilliams93454 жыл бұрын
I had a 67 Land Rover 109, you could put an adjustable wrench on every nut. my how things change
@timbreedlove13853 жыл бұрын
I have watched a lot of of your videos in the past and as always I have come to confirm that you wizard take great pride in your work along with your employee's pride of work myself even that I live far away from your shop I would be honored to my vehicles to you .thank you for all your information.
@twilson19734 жыл бұрын
I like the fact that you are taking your time to thoroughly do the job verses rushing and probably end breaking some of the delicate parts. Some technicians and even shop owners don’t consider the amount of detail that is required to do that type of repair.
@dave11354 жыл бұрын
When I worked as a auto tech at a GM dealership, we hardly ever changed evaporator cores unless it was a warranty repair due to the high labor cost. Most customers finding out how much it was going to cost decided they really didn't need a.c. all that much. Lol
@nsbioy4 жыл бұрын
The off-warranty customers probably went indy.
@CrimFerret4 жыл бұрын
@@nsbioy Or put it up for sale during the Winter or charged it up just before some poor sucker did a test drive.
@ericschofield32443 жыл бұрын
It also means the defroster won't work and that's unacceptable
@dave11353 жыл бұрын
@@ericschofield3244 if the customer refuses the repair, not much we can do. Most evaporator replacements can run $1,800 to $3,000 plus parts, and if car is only valued at $5,000 -$7000, it's not worth it
@CrimFerret3 жыл бұрын
@@dave1135 Well, you can refuse to do the job based on the fact it's going to break again and then they'll blame you all over social media.
@mazdaman12864 жыл бұрын
As a semi retired mechanic who now only helps out a couple of days a week at my old place, we stopped doing Range Rovers and Discovery's ten or twelve years ago , as you have found it is a nightmare to get to components, along the way parts break snap off, and underneath simply seized solid ! air suspension pumps involve new pipes connections valves and air tanks. They simple turn to a ball of rust and crumble. Suspension bolts seize onto bushes and then you are told there is three days waiting time to get them after spending three hours cutting them off. What I learnt at BMW was that the people who buy these type of vehicles only keep them for 18 months then trade them for the newer model or a competitors similar vehicle. They have that sort of disposable income.They don't have to be reliable because they will always get a similar or upgraded loan car when theirs goes in for repair. The second and third owners start getting the big bills along with eyewatering depreciation and say " But its a Range Rover, it can go anywhere" yes , and it costs an arm and a leg to get there.! Try changing the the turbos on a 3.0 V6 TDI thats lived in a salty enviroment..........keep up the good work , I will watch your endevours from a comfortable armchair and think of simpler times.
@shyro764 жыл бұрын
I work at a car place and for some reason, we’re still willing to service range rovers. We’ll get maybe 1 or 2 every other day, and it’s always annoying when they come in the shop. They’re nice vehicles, but interacting with them has showed me that they’re just overpriced and unreliable vehicles that are annoying to work on for absolutely no reason. I think that servicing them is much more trouble than it’s worth, but at the end of the day they’re paying us for our services so it is what it is for now
@ronnytotten92924 жыл бұрын
I have a 98 disco 1.. Back when they were still a British design before they were molested by BMW.. Simple and easy to work on.
@jayc342009 Жыл бұрын
@@ronnytotten9292 exactly, when BMW owned range rover the cars were terrible
@sukeshkohli4753 жыл бұрын
Mr Car Wizard: You are most knowledgeable & honest car mechanic, simply the best. I wish you were my mechanic in Northern Virginia, not like a cheat who charged me $450 to change oxygen sensor which I found out in another year the car had original O2 sensor. This is almost impossible to avoid cheating car mechanics as there are so many of them out there. I can appreciate you & Magic Mike who have gone through this painful job to put this vehicle apart & assemble again to replace evaporation coil. Shame on LandRover to make these SUVs overly complicated unlike my Jeep Wrangler, made in good old USA. GOD bless America and mechanics like you are diamonds!!!
@michaeltyniec70103 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! Remember back in the day all the HVAC components were accessible from the engine bay (back when you could stand between the exhaust manifold and front fender). HAHAHA. I always get nervous replacing a functioning blower motor - always afraid it will fail within the first week and off comes the dashboard again. Thanks for this videos!
@donaldmackay4224 жыл бұрын
At 10:30 “Is magic mike making bread” I thought mrs wizard was talking about money not actual loafs
@angelsriverajr56634 жыл бұрын
That's my reaction when my cat stands on my abdomen and starts kneading.
@martinda74464 жыл бұрын
@@angelsriverajr5663 Ha, ha, ha 😸😼😻😾🐈cats...
@martinda74464 жыл бұрын
I thought that too, immediately confused me.
@queerdor3 жыл бұрын
Oh he is with a 3grand job
@ch_dn4 жыл бұрын
Wizard: "There is a shocker!" me: "Nothing shocks me" Wizard: "This job has already been done!" me: :O
@pengu49324 жыл бұрын
surprised pikachu face
@youtubecarspottersguide14 жыл бұрын
thats noise sound s expense
@macgeek21124 жыл бұрын
As my coworker says when he sees a Range Rover on the road... "Hey, Look! Another Range Rover fell off its tow truck."
@racerboy22124 жыл бұрын
Fantastic explanation to the Lay Person to see what’s really entailed....Great Job!
@jcollins13053 жыл бұрын
Ahhh British automotive engineering. Keeping mechanics’ kids in college for decades!
@AlessandroGenTLe4 жыл бұрын
There is a story here in Italy that sounds like this: "So my engine wasn't working well, and I brought the car to a humble mech. He listened the engine, took out a hammer, used it on a specific part and the engine was running well from that point onward. Then he asked me to pay 250$ for that. And I was 'What??? 250$ for a hammer hit?? You crazy???'. And the mech replied: 'It's not for the hammer hit, it's for my knowledge about where and how to hit in order to fix your problem' ". This is similar.
@josepeixoto33844 жыл бұрын
eh eh eh what part did he hit with the hammer?
@joemilton75524 жыл бұрын
@@josepeixoto3384 the part that needed to be adjusted
@mikelemoine42674 жыл бұрын
I've heard that one too, but it was a cruise ship engine and the price was much higher in this version! Good anecdote though!
@josepeixoto33844 жыл бұрын
@@joemilton7552 sure, but it makes no sense,there is NO part in the engine you fix with he hammer; the joke is about a WATCH , about the old pocket watches, up to 1950 or so,always in need of an adjustment,they were always running either too fast,or too slow,never right ) lol
@joemilton75524 жыл бұрын
@@josepeixoto3384 you could free a stuck iac valve or starter motor with a hammer
@alishan88804 жыл бұрын
I'm glad good mechanic like the Car wizard still exist. I really appreciate his honesty.
@williamegler87714 жыл бұрын
Rumor has it 90% of Range Rovers are still on the road. The other 10% actually made it to their destination....
@brodiehaward4 жыл бұрын
Jay K range rover was owned by ford at one point, so depends on which rangerover. Volvos from the early 2000’s up to around 2014 are also pretty much entirely ford beyond the body, giving them the piss poor reliability you get with ford
@SoapMovie23002 жыл бұрын
As a person who had completely disassembled 2002 range rover i salute you for having the patience to carefully take apart interior, there are so many things to break and you just HAVE to know all the little tricks and places where to pull/push to get parts off.
@rumelahmed45393 жыл бұрын
Im thinking of shipping my car from the UK just so that I can get the Car Wizard to service it.
@35Zeuss2 жыл бұрын
I'm right behind you and I am in the Caribbean.
@MrKillswitch884 жыл бұрын
Basically doing dental work while going up through the ass and everything in between. I really do despise modern design choices and examples like this is why.
@JackRR154 жыл бұрын
Bruh, it's just time intensive job. You can DIY this shit at home granted might take you the weekend but still. It's not "dental work", you take of the pieces one by one.
@JohnDoe-zr6bk4 жыл бұрын
@@JackRR15 For someone inexperienced with limited space and equipment? Way more than a weekend job....
@JackRR154 жыл бұрын
@@JohnDoe-zr6bk I mean for the average DIYer this is easy IMO. I don't know where I stand in DIY level but I've done everything on my BMW myself and I'm at about 4000$ in parts. Working on cars is easy, it's just having basic tools and time and a garage and you're all set.
@4cammer4 жыл бұрын
Cars have been like this for 30 years. Try doing a heater core or evaporator in a 87-88 Tbird or Cougar. Not as nasty as this Range Rover but pretty close
@JackRR154 жыл бұрын
@@4cammer Exactly my other thought as well. Where the fuck do you want manufacturers to put the heating and conditioning system while having place to sit in the inside? It's always gonna be under the dash. Granted on older cars might take less hours but the principles are still the same.
@VDPEFi4 жыл бұрын
Proud to say that my home town assembles these magestic vehicles, my dad stopped buying them when l322 came out. They have a Kia now..
@backwoodsnomad13874 жыл бұрын
I miss the old ones!
@colinashby37754 жыл бұрын
VDPEFi I miss my L322. Glad this never happened
@trevorsutherland52634 жыл бұрын
sorry to hear that...
@SuperFIFTHGEAR4 жыл бұрын
Where are they assembled, Solihull? I've driven past JLR in Halewood. Most people here are driving newer Hyundai and Kia though...
@martinda74464 жыл бұрын
I just love the Wizard...And I'm a man! This has become the greatest car mechanics channel without question for me.
@Pete...NoNotThatOne4 жыл бұрын
Martin D A nothing wrong with loving the Car Wizard, it just shows you have smarts and taste, and are willing to learn stuff.
@eriknobles39464 жыл бұрын
Me too
@martinda74463 жыл бұрын
@@eriknobles3946 Good man Eric. 😸
@petercrasher5042 жыл бұрын
great to watch...I had a 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee and had the AC evaporator replaced under warranty at the dealership and walked into the shop just to check on progress and found the dash remove and parts everywhere! Then the tech showed me his $100,000 computer that shows him how to do the job right with no short cuts. Was very happy with repair. Thank you for you videos!!
@robertandrzejczyk3 жыл бұрын
One of the best video so far IMHO. Interesting case, shocker, nice investigation and good end. Knowledge and entertainment in one place.
@reviewtime82584 жыл бұрын
This video makes me appreciate my Honda even more don't have to remove the dash just the glove box that's it ez
@christopherelrod87883 жыл бұрын
For an evap core? On mine i have to. I have 92 accord. I have to pull the whole dash.....(still not as bad as this though)
@siemenstraffic4 жыл бұрын
Samcrac: If you repair a Range Rover it will just break again.. Car Wizard: Hold my beard..
@pengu49324 жыл бұрын
Well a sam crac repair is no car wizard repair. Ones a pro wizard the other is a chicken farmer
@AndyK.14 жыл бұрын
Don’t recall Sam doing any of the work 😀
@Juan_T14 жыл бұрын
From what I remember he had only finish 2 projects 😂😂 And he’s ass spend over 7k on a DIY job which came out like crap lol
@OG_DSM4 жыл бұрын
@@Juan_T1 he just dumped a range rover because of a consistent misfire on 2, 4 and 6 all after fixing exhaust leaks. Think he dumped like 12k or something. Chickens and cars are so different. 🤔
@Juan_T14 жыл бұрын
Saab_lyfe190 totally agree But like someone mention “everything for the content”
@kurtschalles89474 жыл бұрын
In 2002 I had a customer bring in a 1998 dodge neon for a heater core, quoted him a price and he laughed at me and left. He came back 2 hours later and said he went to the dealer and it was almost double, I got the job. He came in the next day and looked in his car and said the manufacturers are building cars in modules and not think the repair.
@fintekele4 жыл бұрын
Very few cars these days are easy to work on, and the list is getting shorter and shorter. Mercedes and Subaru for example used to be easy to work on 10 years ago, but even they are getting compromized by some design elements in their "modular thinking" where ease of assembly at the factory dictates the design. Certain VAG timing chains/belts I think have already been mentioned on car wizard's channel, for example, when it comes to really poor design and lack of room to work on... In so many cars nowdays there's almost 0 access to anything but scheduled maintenance parts up to 10 years / 250 000 kilometers life expectancy.
@amazoidal4 жыл бұрын
Ford 3.5 - 3.7 is $1600-2000 for a water pump.
@davidson461004 жыл бұрын
They are thinking of planned obsolescence. They want you to throw it away instead of fixing it. Manufacturers will continue to to do it as long as people keep buying them. Why do people keep rewarding them for bad engineering?
@Drummin0034 жыл бұрын
@@amazoidal I got a 3.5L V6 in my Edge, but it's still got less than 60,000 miles on it. If I have to pay for it at some point in the future, it'll be a business related write-off.
@amazoidal4 жыл бұрын
Are you ready to pay $1600-2000 in another 20k for a water pump? The water in the oil could cost you an engine as well. No warning! Sell or trade in now. If you can afford those cost, you'd be comfortable with a German car. Those repair costs are in thousand dollar increments.
@CarlyG183 жыл бұрын
Wizard your the best!! It makes me super glad i own and drive old Toyota 1985 Celica Supra and my 1969 RT43 Corona 1900 deluxe , In the old days deluxe features were a heater and AM radio, No AC, no power steering or brakes, and NO problems.
@tjwrongwaymead83742 жыл бұрын
Truly awesome patience! Great video. I've been a do it yourself guy 35 years and worked in many shops. I really hope my 12 supercharged with 74k doesn't lose that part. Just did a steering rack and wheel bearings. Getting ready to do my supercharger coupling and water pump whileim in there. Dealer said my chain is fine. My guages just developed a white line of pixels straight up across the little fuel pump symbol. Suppose I will have to replace the cluster. Otherwise she's a creampuff.
@davidwalker722 жыл бұрын
For my 2012 w/ 85k miles I'm in the middle of replacing my blown blower fan... by the book it's similar to this job. Luckily there's a shortcut where you can cut some non critical parts of the inside of the dash - some of which is adjacent a large wiring loom. The fan can be swapped. Sorry to hear about your shot cluster. What brought that on?
@tjwrongwaymead83742 жыл бұрын
@@davidwalker72 the guages actually are still fine. It's just a vertical white thread of pixels from bottom to top. Happened the day after my buddy noticed how cool the guages were and made the comment. Typical.just popped up. I did the steering rack for under $500 dealer wanted $7450.00. And got very familiar with complete front end assembly. This week I'm attempting to fit 275 55 20 venom Tera hunters on it. It has the lift rods so maybe need spacers. Some say it can be done. Some say no. Tip of the day...get ceramic brake pads. Let them fully bed in and you won't have the insane brake dust anymore.The dealer tried to talk me out of it. Said the truck was too heavy , live with it. Absolutely the Best thing I ever did to it. Sorry soo long but nobody else knows what I'm talking about, 😆
@tjwrongwaymead83742 жыл бұрын
@@davidwalker72 that sounds scary. I can't believe soo much has to come out for that. I live near Chicago so I need my blower. Crossed fingers on that one. Going to do those tires and alignment now. Maybe I'll post some pics
@skyartrc82864 жыл бұрын
Its a pain in the rear doing heater cores or evap. wizard is right, my heater core went out, i changed it, then 6 months later my evap core wentout, had to tear the dash apart again. i should have replaced both at the same time.
@unclefista4 жыл бұрын
10 minute job on my old Rover 75, luckily.
@HiroNguy4 жыл бұрын
@@unclefista They don't make them to maintain anymore, just to trade in.
@unclefista4 жыл бұрын
@@HiroNguy yeah, as long as the first 3 years servicing is reasonable to appeal to the fleet market, manufacturers don't care about making cars easier to fix in the long term :(
@peeloutin850rmode4 жыл бұрын
I changed the blower motor a few months ago in my 08 RR and did it a little at a time during the week. Saturday and Sunday made it an all day event. Not an easy task, and I don't look forward to going in there again. Blower was 85 bucks 😳. Not for the faint of heart. I have nightmares now..
@youngb1ood4 жыл бұрын
@The worxbench garage how long did it take to do the heater core or evaporator from start to finish?
@misteralfredo4 жыл бұрын
I'm literally in the middle of doing this for my heater core on my BMW e28. As a DIYer, it's been 2 months since I started and I'm still not done since I work full time.
@mattipauwels33744 жыл бұрын
Took 2 days for AUDI 80 inc refoaming the flaps in the core. Work a weekend and done man ;)
@blackterminal3 жыл бұрын
E28. Wonderful. Any pictures of your car to see?
@CanadianArchaeologist4 жыл бұрын
I really like this channel. When it comes to honesty from your mechanic, that is invaluable!
@tonistarks2874 Жыл бұрын
Dam broski😬a lot of work and remembering where all the screws go back😂...Thank u Mr Wizard for all ur videos that u show in detail on jobs like these.well appreciated brother and I'm always tuning in.👍🏽
@barneymiller7953 жыл бұрын
That's an awesome story! Wow! Crazy! I have a 1997 Range Rover and at the time the cost was estimated to be $1600 to remove the dash to replace the heater core. Suffice it to say, it hasn't been done yet, lol!
@qeku4 жыл бұрын
Hoovie looking at the leaking die: ITS GREEN!
@45AlfaCharliePapa4 жыл бұрын
More like IIIIIIITTTSSSSSSS GRRRRREEEEEEENNNNN!
@AlGoYoSu4 жыл бұрын
19:20 one of my first cars was a 4th gen Maxima. Didn't know a lot about working on cars before owning that rust bucket. Afterwards, knew a bit more, and owned a lot more tools. Had to replace the blower motor on it when it got too loud to think. It was quite simple after removing the glove box. Shopping around, it was pretty cheap on fleaBay, but decided on visiting a local pull-a-part since I needed a few more things, and to get some practice on doing the job.
@DanaOrtiz4 жыл бұрын
I freaking love this guy man. Such a genius and old school common sense.
@edmikula71873 жыл бұрын
Ha! Remember the PCV valve on early 90s Altimas $3.00 for the part, $300.00 labor. Had to remove the manifolds to access the PCV.
@drknight273 жыл бұрын
Just subscribed Wizard. I’ve watched you on Hoovie’s garage for years but never subscribed until now. I appreciate your honest explanation of the cost of “labor hours”. Educational..thank-you!
@jamesoraley4 жыл бұрын
Car Wizard,, I absolutely LOVE your work ethic and business ethic, you do things right! Thank you!!
@BillyBobDingledorf4 жыл бұрын
Criminal that they make these things so hard to get to.
@OrnumCR3 жыл бұрын
The modern automobile is such a complex piece of machinery that has to meet so many demands from so many angles....This is the result. Takes a lot of work to design and package a modern vehicle, not at all like a model T Ford or Austin 7....
@crxdelsolsir3 жыл бұрын
@@OrnumCR No it is a product of a Business model to increase profits. Many are intentionally designed to lock out easy access, deter DIY and foster reliance on stealerships.
@OrnumCR3 жыл бұрын
@@crxdelsolsir Well excuse my 30 years working in the automotive industry because you obviously know everything about it...
@gtalover1392 жыл бұрын
They only do it this way because its cheaper for them to manufacture this way than to make it accessible. They know the part will last through the warranty most of the time and beyond that, they don't care.
@expediter994 жыл бұрын
just gotta say... any where I've seen, the "advisor" calls you and says the part they broke was (fill in any excuse) so it has to be replaced and the additional charge will be: wow. I found out too late one day a friend of mine had his 4 cyl car in to replace the intake valve seals as it was smoking. They called him at work to say the valves were worn way more than they thought. So bad, they all fell into the cylinders when the keepers were loosed. Extra charge to remove the head and get them out. He paid up. We all know that was TOTAL NEGLIGENCE.
@nelakendra22964 жыл бұрын
Their explanation was quite literally impossible. Valves don't wear. If they 'wear' its because the edges of them were burnt away and now you've lost compression on that cylinder and you have engine failure. What they're talking about would require you to lose 3/4 of the valve stem somehow. Still dead engine situation. What really happened is that you replace the intake valve seals with the cylinder at TDC (piston is at the top of its travel and physically won't allow the valve to drop). The only way could drop a valve into the cylinder is if they screwed up and didn't have the cylinder at TDC (piston is lowered so its not physically holding the valve in place). Its also possible that they were using a leak down tester to hold the valves in place and they had the pressure dialed up too high which caused the engine to turn over, thereby moving the piston out of position... Still a rookie mistake.
@kealke4 жыл бұрын
@@nelakendra2296 Valves do wear. Not in a way as described above, but they do wear. Burning them is also very different from them being worn. Please leave the wizardry to the wizards...
@nelakendra22964 жыл бұрын
@@kealke If you want to be pedantic about it, yes they do wear but valve wear would be in the same category as piston rings, main bearings, cylinder walls and so forth. Yes they all wear - heck the engine block wears but these components are all expected to last the life of the engine/vehicle. They are not intended as regular maintenance items. No mechanic is going in there measuring valve wear the way they are measuring your brake rotors. There is no manufacturer listing "valves" in their maintenance schedule at any interval. They are replaced when they fail or as part of an overall engine rebuild. It takes serious abuse or lack of maintenance to induce enough wear that it will be a concern on most engines. Yes I'm sure there are some race engines or other specialized applications where engines are designed for only a few hundred hours of life and yes I'm sure you can point out some specific engine that had an issue with valves wearing out early but realistically the average motor's valves are designed to go well past 500,000 miles and probably past 1 million too.
@nelakendra22964 жыл бұрын
@ArmchairWarrior And I bet he learned his lesson and didn't repeat that mistake again. He'll get better at his craft as time goes on. On the other hand the guy that refuses to accept responsibility for his mistakes never learns from them and as a result keeps making them. He will never improve.
@daoudaqtash92432 жыл бұрын
I wish we had a mechanic like the car wizard in my area. Great job fixing this vehicle.
@bosshoss143 жыл бұрын
At our shop, we take pictures and videos of the interior dash and components, focusing on pre-damaged trim pieces, components, etc. This is because some customers are aware of the magnitude of this job due to Customers doing their own diagnostics/Research watching youtube repair videos. We have had occasions where The customer tries to blame us for broken trim pieces or scratches that were already there before we touched the car. So in order to avoid all of that headache and problems, we take pictures and videos before just in case someone wants to pin something on us that we didn't do, and show them the evidence and continue on with our day worry-free. It's free insurance really.
@drunkenhobo80204 жыл бұрын
The irony is if Range Rover had made it a $200 part you never would needed to have replaced it...
@h5mind3734 жыл бұрын
Probably even a $120 part would have done it. Cars designed by accountants and sold to bankers.
@Chavagnatze4 жыл бұрын
leased to bankers. Even if I made a million dollars every day, I would never buy any car.
@allegorx584 жыл бұрын
Sataharu leasing only makes sense in very specific circumstances
@ledzeppelin274 жыл бұрын
Heater cores, evap cores and blower motors are probably every manufacturers greatest sin. The design for them hasn't really changed since they were first really introduced. But the total PITA it is to get to them is beyond ridiculous. Everyone KNOWS that these parts are going to eventually fail, but no one has come up with a quick and easy access panel to make life easier for everyone. Instead, these companies think that they already got your money, it's not their problem anymore
@slideways80223 жыл бұрын
@@Chavagnatze doesn’t matter if you lease buy beg or steal, you would still go bankrupt with cheaply made hard to reach parts
@jurassiclizzard4 жыл бұрын
Hats off to Mike for not breaking anything. I can hear plastic snapping just thinking about trying this job myself.
@TravisTLK4 жыл бұрын
3:08 ".... it's kind of like walking in on a loved one in the middle of ".... wait for it... 😆 "open heart surgery." *Oh yeah! Open heart surgery. Yep, that's what I was gonna say too. 😉😳
@stephenkerner82464 жыл бұрын
The Car Wizard (and other associates) Mrs. Wizard too, Rule! Thanks too all. The best car knowledge on Y- Tube, Thanks SDK
@MrRitchie2252 жыл бұрын
Beginning to really this this guy. He really does know his stuff. Theres very few mechanics that would dream of taking on a job like that. That's why I've got a yaris as a runaround. As much as I love range rovers. They're horrendous to work on. You must have balls of steel. I work on mainly vans but watching this is a slap in the face for me as I'm not even close to this skill level. Its such a skilled job and every job is so different now. Credit to you guys
@gglen21413 жыл бұрын
Good point there wizard: "we don't take pay cut for getting good at our jobs."
@noisybarinavalon4 жыл бұрын
$100 part in a $3000 location.
@dustintunis93474 жыл бұрын
I gutted the interior of my wife's car and she didn't think she'd ever drive it again. Seats, plastic trim, carpet, shifter, radio, driver's airbag, etc, all trying to find a shorted wire for the marker lights. It turned out it was in front of the rear bumper, the metal bumper was rusted and she had gotten bumped at a stop light (no visible damaged) and it bent the bumper into the wire which eventually (about 2 months later) rubbed through and blew the fuse. I didn't even realize it had lights in the bumper, I thought they were reflectors.
@dinon354 жыл бұрын
F
@MP-vd1ck4 жыл бұрын
What was the year make and model of the vehicle?
@dustintunis93474 жыл бұрын
@@MP-vd1ck - 2006 Chevy HHR.
@tectorama3 жыл бұрын
I had something similar a few years ago. I had a Citroen Berlingo Van (not an estate car). This had a manual gearbox and a small spring broke. It had to go to a specialist gearbox shop to be fixed. The part cost just over £2, the bill came to £800.
@terrystratford12354 жыл бұрын
On the plus side, you can do the pollen filter!! I've a 1990 3.9 efi vogue! It's scary how much wires are behind the dash! The real magic is putting it all back without the owner knowing you've had to strip it to the bulk!! Rangies are a pig to work on now adays! You did a really brilliant job!
@riptwan4 жыл бұрын
This is as close to a diss track I've ever seen from wizard
@nickmoore3854 жыл бұрын
No lithium grease. LOL
@TBendez4 жыл бұрын
He's done similar before. It's accurate but kinda meh, I'm divided.
@Oklawolf4 жыл бұрын
Lest people think this is only a Range Rover thing, I have the service manual for my loaded 2004 Chrysler Pacifica. Getting at the evaporator requires very nearly as much work as this vehicle. If mine ever goes out, either I need to talk myself into doing all that work by my lonesome or replace the car. It's not worth a $3k adventure in Dashboard City at this point in its life.
@a.h.5044 жыл бұрын
First car I had fun driving with the tiptronic. not sure why to be honest.
@mikelemoine42674 жыл бұрын
My heater core died in my F150 10 years ago. Luckily I live in Florida, just disconnected it and use the seat heaters if it's a nippy day!
@Cheepchipsable3 жыл бұрын
Pretty common design for many years now. It's a result of designing a car to be built quickly with no thought of disassembly or repair.
@ManxAndy4 жыл бұрын
As ever......you are the most honest straight talking shop owner I’ve seen.....👍💪🇮🇲
@thegeemack4 жыл бұрын
Good job at letting the world understand what the work actually takes to be done correctly!👍🏾🦾🤔
@jamesroquemore26163 жыл бұрын
Heater core for a 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee takes it to nothing but firewall inside. Took me a weekend with my Dad to do. Also cleaned the carpet (waiting to dry slowed us down) and repair a rust hole in the floorboard. We also replaced blend doors, heater core, fresh air vent, ac evaporator, blower motor and control actuators. I was not going to do that again.
@jjlegend39224 жыл бұрын
Almost bought an HSE instead of my Jaguar xjl, really, really happy I never did that. 5.0 jags are just like most ford's. Don't really have to worry about the drivetrain. It's everything else you gotta watch out for lol.
@nicksundby4 жыл бұрын
Note to self: don't buy a Range Rover
@joshdupont22094 жыл бұрын
the evap/heater core on any car requires the same work. May not take as much time depending on how much stuff is on the interior but still have to take the dash out.
@ayayoutuber4 жыл бұрын
money pit and worse reliability. even brits don't respect this brand.
@amunderdog4 жыл бұрын
The Premier Automotive Group was formed in 1999 under then-CEO Jacques Nasser. It grew to include responsibility for the Lincoln, Mercury, Aston Martin, Jaguar, Land Rover and Volvo brands. Forbes estimated that, by 2004, Ford had spent $17 billion building on acquisitions to form PAG. All involved have been in a similar mess since.
@highvoltage12v4 жыл бұрын
On Volvo P3 cars, you can cut the case to remove the Evaporator and Volvo supplies you with a new plastic cover that goes over the cut area. This was you don't need to remove the dash to replace the core. Google "MAH-AE85000P" for an(aftermarket) example. However on SPA cars the dash needs to come out.
@leccybadger4 жыл бұрын
My independent BMW specialist also covers Range Rover, mentioned I was considering one... After chortling for many moments, his advice was to keep the 04 plate e46, being a good one, and condemn all thoughts of RR ownership to the grave.... Average bills in the thousands apparently.
@nizzy10574 жыл бұрын
5 stars for Magic Mike!
@jimlegalley6656 Жыл бұрын
Omg, just how can you remember where everything goes? Today's auto mechanics are like doctors!!! Simplicity is everything! Reason why I held onto my 2-71 Datsun 521 trucks and my 78 Toyota Corolla SW as they are reliable, modifiable and so easy to repair in addition to very inexpensive parts.
@stevenmaresca96373 жыл бұрын
The fun starts after everything is put back together... Recalibrating and relearning all the actuator doors and head unit...
@yomomma42704 жыл бұрын
"You typically don't want to show the customer their vehicle in this state." *Proceeds to publish a video on KZbin, showing the customer their vehicle in that state. Lol.
@mannyroias33924 жыл бұрын
LoL
@beezertwelvewashingbeard87034 жыл бұрын
And he's fake driving with their interior parts. That's like seeing the heart surgeon playing hackeysack with your dad's heart.
well he said "you typically don't want to" he didn't say "you never want to"
@mr.boostang20643 жыл бұрын
I assume by the time the video was posted the owner was already enjoying here Range Rover
@dennisschmitter73104 жыл бұрын
Holy Cow!! Haha! I just did one of these last week. I also replaced the heater core while I was there because they have a tendency clog. Cheers from Rhode Island Wizard and Mrs. Wizard.
@DG-ej5nz2 жыл бұрын
As a 2012 RRS owner I feel violated and sad at the same time. I have about 4 grand into mine. I hope to God, that's it! On another note if you have had timing chain or timing chain tensioners replaced on your 2012-2018 (I believe 2018), RRS, LR4 there is a class action lawsuit against JLRNA. You can be reimbursed for a certain percentage.
@samuelson763 жыл бұрын
I’m not sorry for the owner, everybody knows how much costs maintenance owning a Land Rover - Range Rover!
@blarkdexture88994 жыл бұрын
Pro tip: Never ever buy a Range Rover
@darkmugetsu65723 жыл бұрын
Ironic considering never buy a Saab too lol
@gerardo.mx2863 жыл бұрын
And Cadillac cts
@craigjorgensen46373 жыл бұрын
Worst cars on the road!
@mobilemcsmarty14663 жыл бұрын
..or an Audi
@phonewater3213 жыл бұрын
Pro tip don’t buy a range Rover if you’re not mechanically minded. I have one second owner. I do all the work on and it’s just as reliable as any other vehicle on the planet. more so than most actually. people are just repeating what I’ve heard
@dafalzonAUS4 жыл бұрын
It always amazes me in these jobs, how you remember where and how everything goes back
@suttoncoldfield93183 жыл бұрын
I've done my own car care for 40 years, I could _probably_ do this job if I had the room to lay out all the parts in a single line as I took them off. Have to label stuff though (this bit's connected to that bit etc)
@Cheepchipsable3 жыл бұрын
After a while you know how things are typically connected. Real problem is when you walk away for a week, or come into the middle of a job and have to go from there.
@devianb3 жыл бұрын
It helps greatly when others have done it and documented every step or taking video while tearing it down.
@robertandrzejczyk3 жыл бұрын
He makes a youtube video and then he watches it backwards.
@Shawn-ne6ld4 жыл бұрын
Love your honesty. I learned in Germany at a bmw garage. Timing belt for an E30 3er is 3 1/2 hours. I had it down to 1 1/2. Why should we take a hit for getting good was right on point. Don’t know the shop time but a 4 cylinder 3er clutch was done in about 30 minutes with 2 guys. BMWs were easier back then in the 80’s 90’s.
@CarWizard4 жыл бұрын
Most people who complain of this are not going to afford the repair, even at half price. So what does it matter?
@pablopicaro76494 жыл бұрын
@@CarWizard Surprising the Owner of Rover did not trade it in at this point. WOuld likely be better off getting a Lexus or Infinity.
@acemobile98064 жыл бұрын
There's an old story about a very seasoned mechanic being sent out to repair a machine that stopped running. Only required a small adjustment, a turn of a screw, to get it running again...total repair time less than 15 minutes. The mechanic submits a bill to the company for $500 and the company accountant is asking why so much? The mechanic explains his charges, "it was $25 to turn the screw and $475 for knowing which one to turn." You're not just paying for the labor, you're paying for the knowledge. Don't like it, learn how to do it yourself.
@HrHaakon4 жыл бұрын
You know, if you quoted me 3k for a 0.1k I'd be pretty skeptical too. I'm glad that there's someone like you who's patient enough to tell us why.
@robi43873 жыл бұрын
Reassembly is a reverse of disassembly. Apart from the HVAC ducting which needs you to be an octopus. What most folks won't realise it that on the assembly line, each fitter fits maybe 4, 5, 6 parts.
@codyheizler72944 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for the wizard to start singing “You ain’t seen nothing yet” by Bachman-Turner Overdrive lol
@stephenyoungblood36834 жыл бұрын
5:33, Wizards knees say: “crack crack crack crack, help!!! We’re not use to going this low!!!”
@jerrykorman77704 жыл бұрын
My knees cried out in sympathy
@jerrykorman77704 жыл бұрын
thatdankcat I hear you .... same
@stuartstuart8664 жыл бұрын
Wow, that’s a crazy amount of work. So Wizard, a future video idea: Easiest and most difficult cars to work on.
@harmonicres3 жыл бұрын
People complained about Saabs but my old 1st gen 9-3 had a bad heater core and it was only about a $600 job! Saab designed the heater core to be semi-easily swapped out. Id never ever own a Rover product much less BMW or god forbid Merc.....Nice video informative, civil and most importantly honest.
@dickfitzinya30824 жыл бұрын
What really sucks is when the tech that takes it apart, gets frustrated and quits before putting it back together.
@hotpuppy14 жыл бұрын
My brother had a Plymouth minivan in for a warranty engine rebuild (bad valve stem seals etc.). The tech went on vacation after the engine was apart. My brother was going on a family vacation the next week and had to rent a car for the trip that was over 2000 miles for two weeks. Had to sue the dealership to get the rental $. Vowed never to have another Chrysler vehicle again.
@mmkuyt4 жыл бұрын
Or he/she starts talking about a raise before the job is done?
@burtonholmes47083 жыл бұрын
You HAD TO make my brain anurisum come back....
@queerdor3 жыл бұрын
@@hotpuppy1 what did the car have to do work an asshole dealership
@-nightraider-11692 жыл бұрын
That would have me sweating bullets
@1tobicat4 жыл бұрын
I had to have the evaporator core replaced in my Ram 2500. The owner of the shop took a picture of the dash sitting on the front seats. It made my heart skip at least a couple beats. They did a great job though, truck is perfect and blowing cold!
@tuomasholo4 жыл бұрын
After watching the entire Range Rover saga with Samcrac, I would never own a high mile RR. My wallet isn’t big enough.
@PracticalInvesting4 жыл бұрын
Get yo bread up
@futbolplaya074 жыл бұрын
Leasing range rovers is the only way to go. No it’s not a 99 Toyota. But if it’s something you want, I think it’s the most responsible way to go
@tuomasholo4 жыл бұрын
TheRealMambaYT 👍 grinding every day for the dollar yo.
@nathanielreay4 жыл бұрын
Range rovers dont only drain your wallet, they drain your sanity too!