What About Bible Prophecy | Belief It Or Not

[@serendipity6750]

The problem is they only want you to apply this logic to the Bible but conveniently want you to be reasonably logical and objective for all other holy text.

[@ViridianCrisis7]

I once had a Catholic tell me that reincarnation was a ridiculous idea. But I guess half of the saints dying gruesome deaths and as such being given power in death bc of their piety makes more sense

[@Gloomdrake]

​@@ViridianCrisis7something something god something something mysterious ways

[@aaronhoy3410]

I've only seen 1 or 2 other videos from this channel so could you direct me to where the channel treats some other religion in a different way than they do Christianity? KZbin doesn't really like links for whatever reason, but a copy paste of the title or some keywords to use when searching would be fine. Because I have a hard time believing that someone who appears to be nonbelievers would treat any religion like it could possibly be true. Though, I'm happy to have my guess proven wrong as it is just a guess. All the videos I've seen have been about Christian topics. You know because he lives in a country that is made up of more Christians than people of any other religion or are nonbelievers in general. So, like most people in such a society, even if they did not grow up believers [which is also rather unlikely though possible,] they have been surrounded by Christians for virtually all their lives. Therefore, they have more familiarity & knowledge of Christianity in their personal experience so discuss it rather than talking out of their a-s on stuff they aren't familiar with.

[@Gloomdrake]

@@aaronhoy3410 you misunderstood, they're talking about the Christians, not this channel

[@serendipity6750]

@@aaronhoy3410 I believe we are on the same page with this. In this context "they" would generally be Christian apologists not the channel Belief it or not. Sorry for not being specific.

[@hellofranky99]

How any pastors can say with a straight face that we are living in the end times by citing war, disease, crime, famine, earthquakes, and plagues as proof really blows my mind.

[@stephanieguile9072]

As if it has never happened before!! 🤣 They forget that fact!!!

[@bluester7177]

Yes, all of those things have been common in the history of humanity and the planet, is not proof of anything.

[@thatonedude9744]

Not only are these very common events in human history, but God DIRECTLY CAUSES a number of them himself throughout the Bible.

[@ChristopherSadlowski]

​@@thatonedude9744 the Abrahamic God really is an asshole, huh?

[@aazhie]

@@thatonedude9744 Yea, if anything is proof of God, it means God's a disaster loving monster Dx Like a child that treats his toys like Sid from Toy Story!!

[@SemiIocon]

I love the whole "the bible is true, it says so in the bible" these people constantly do. When you really aren't concerned about making sense at all.

[@Rawnblade13]

Yeah every time I hear these people talk, I just really wish they'd just stop and think for even just a moment how fallacious that logic is.

[@latoyapierre7520]

Like when they say to pray to god and he will fix it. If god cannot change at all then that would mean his thoughts, ideas, and original plan for the current situation or any situation someone is in can not and will not change as well. That prayer would do nothing ergo it would mean nothing. The same outcome would have happened even if they didn’t pray. Also, can we all agree that when the lady asked Jesus to tell her what time the rapture would come and he told her a story about always being ready he dodged the question?

[@schwarzwolfram7925]

"It says to do it Steve, and I wrote it! So it must be right!"

[@gaillewis5472]

Sing it with me now: 🎼🎶🎙️you can't use a word in its own definition...

[@molybdomancer195]

It’s like Lord of the Rings getting it right that the Witch King of Angmar would not be killed by a man means that Tolkien was a prophet

[@lyndsieb701]

When I was around 9 or 10 I started asking God if I was going to heaven. My eyes closed, I'd picture a traffic light rapidly changing colors (green for yes, heaven, red for no, hell) and my anxiety would always make it land on red. Believing I was going to hell at that age is traumatizing!

[@lucidragon5260]

When I was in middle school I had a dream that Jesus returned and instead of going to heaven I was sent to hell. Yep, very traumatizing. Also, whenever I couldn't find anyone in the house, I thought Jesus had returned and I'd been left behind.

[@lyavain2764]

It's part of why I got away from the church. I just don't jive with the idea of a god who made me like women yet planned to damn us all to hell for the way we were made. Nahhhh man I have one life and I'm not going to spend it hating myself for things I can't change.

[@xxxxx-iu4fw]

im sorry if this comes off as rude but did it ever hit yellow/ have a chance to? did yellow have a meaning? regardless: I honestly relate to this p comment, and im sorry you went through that :( I hope you’re doing better now!

[@ThePurpleKiss101]

Purgatory perhaps?

[@Albinojackrussel]

Man that's aweful, I'm so sorry you went though that as a kid.

[@gaylewinds4808]

I was SO ANGRY when my second grade teacher told me that I could find the answer to any problems in the bible and it did NOT help me in math in the slightest. When I asked about it I was told that MATH was in the bible, but it wasn't going to teach me division. A very small seed of doubt was planted that day. A mustard seed size, I dare say.

[@iamwonka]

“Just not be born stupid.” - every Christian who tells you to read the Bible every time you’re struggling

[@Temulon]

@@iamwonka - Christians that I have questioned always said to "Open your heart, empty your mind of bias and bigotry, read the scripture and it's meaning will be shown". I'd always return and say "Sorry, but no divine inspiration was given to me" In which they would always reply "Ah! that is because you failed to open your heart and empty your mind of bias and bigotry".

[@Elvengem]

God created the universe in mathematical laws. So Knowing God is the best equation.

[@cewla3348]

@@Elvengem wha- are you discrediting ALL MATHEMATICIANS because god did it now? Doctors didn't do it, it was a '''blessing from god'''.

[@Elvengem]

@@cewla3348 who said mathematicians were being discredited?they did not create the math or laws.They apply them and God created them.

[@nataschavisser573]

I had a recurring nightmare as a young child that I was left behind during the rapture. I had the first one when I was around 3 or 4. I am very happy that I could leave these sort of axieties behind when I left Christianity.

[@harveywabbit9541]

You can witness the rapture by watching the sun rise from darkness.

[@allykat5899]

I gotta ask why are so many former fundamentalist/evangelists have so much religious trauma. I've known a few mainline christians and I they didnt seem like they have religious PTSD.

[@Nkosi766]

I never had nightmare, but woke up every morning checking if my parents were gone. I knew I wasn’t going, I was a teenager and girls were on my mind, and that was a sin , and no sin could enter in.

[@KeytarKris]

As an adult I almost wish all the religious right would disappear off the Earth in an instant. Sounds like a wonderful gift to the entire World 🌍

[@00RoxPink]

​@@allykat5899 I can't speak for anybody else's experience but I grew up pentecostal (super religious) i get the feeling that in order to be hardcore Christian your parents have to be a little unhinged in the first place and furthermore validated by the religion to act even more unhinged. My mom temporarily left Christianity and was still crazy even then.

[@leyrua]

I love that line about "Jesus is the ONLY one who died for us-" Ra dies everyday so that the sun will rise tomorrow. I think that's more significant than giving up a couple of days once and then never having to do it again.

[@Nick-Nasti]

Countless soldiers died for us and they had no guarantee of an afterlife. That's a much bigger sacrifice than knowing you're going to rule heaven.

[@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009]

@@Nick-Nasti no soldier is sacrificing their life for us, they are dying in vain

[@EmiStar070]

The voyage of ra also has way more snakes and is therefore way cooler

[@dennisduncan7561]

If it's in a pointless war than yes.

[@leyrua]

@@EmiStar070 The quantity of snakes involved is a FANTASTIC metric for how awesome something is. 😁🐍

[@justintime5021]

Harry Potter actually had a prophecy in the first book. Professor McGonagall said that many books would be written about Harry Potter and that he would be a legend . It's like they knew somehow. The prophecies were even fulfilled years later when Harry Potter was a legend in the book. Such prophecy! Much wow!

[@fordsquared537]

And then there are people named harry who are famous in real life!!1!1!1! End tiems, last generation!!!?!?1!1!?!

[@PaTrick-cf6ev]

And let's not forget about all the movies! There are prequels even!!!!!!

[@happilyevernever4289]

So a subtle 4th wall break?😂

[@_tripalong]

See that does not apply to Harry Potter, because it's a fictional story written by a human. Oh, wait...

[@erikagoetzinger8169]

😂😂😂

[@eicha41624]

Considering how the Gospels were written decades after Jesus died, it's super easy to write everything to say that he fulfilled every single prophecy. It's like a retcon.

[@ChristopherSadlowski]

It's practically guaranteed that most of the New Testament is backfill to force the story to make the earlier prophecies look like they came true. It's why the book makes no damn sense and why so many of the main plot points aren't backed up. What better way to make yourself feel better that the guy you followed actually was the real deal than to make it look like everything he did was foretold? Because after he died and nothing changed...well, you're all just wrong. But people would rather build up a fiction that they were right actually than simply correct themselves and admit they were wrong. It's a shame, too; look at all the awful shit Christian organizations have done and are still doing. We might have avoided some suffering if this religion never happened.

[@quietone2674]

And yet they still didn't. He doesn't meet a single criteria for the Jewish Messiah.

[@eicha41624]

@@quietone2674 exactly!!

[@falconeshield]

​@@quietone2674 We all know that was Mel Brooks

[@andressigalat602]

The earliest Gospel was almost certainly writen after the destruction of the temple, in fact, many scholars believe it was written as a reaction to that event, so no surprise they depict Jesus predicting it.

[@SlyPearTree]

"Archeologists think it could be completely dried up by the year 2040." Archeologists? There weren't geologists or limnologists available? Well I guess it's a win that she did not consult astrologists.

[@lyokianhitchhiker]

They’ve gone THAT low as to consult astrologists on this stuff?

[@loopylynda1974]

I caught that too 🤣

[@randomusername3873]

I don't think they think there's any distinction

[@AmberBocks3000]

The astrologer may be more accurate than these pastors and their twisted pretzel logic. 😂

[@comradeRat8545]

This made me laugh out loud. They’re so dumb, but they think they’re so smart.

[@thenumberIX]

the future has always been a source of anxiety for me. Ever since leaving christianity it’s been less so. I used to be afraid of missing the rapture so i would pray every few weeks to be saved again.

[@Windwalker88]

Maybe it already happened and we all missed it

[@wilberwhateley7569]

The future is a source of anxiety for lots of people - war, economic meltdown, social unrest, etc… It’s a lot to handle! But now you have at least one less thing to worry about now.

[@aubreyleonae4108]

It is especially stressful when one is young and definitive answers cannot be found. You seek and yet find only a multiplicity of conflicting views that amount to nothing more than opinion.

[@death_herself]

Same its the hardest thing about deconstructing

[@dieSpinnt]

Ah yes, prophecies. You know, the jails are full of people making allegations or forging documents to deceive others. We may also see the one or other preacher among them;) I hope you are doing well now!

[@j.c.5528]

My favorite is the prophecy that Babylon would be destroyed and never again inhabited. ...despite it being frequently inhabitated throughout history, including today.

[@kawaiiskeleton297]

Yeah the area where it existed just changed through the hands of different civilizations throughout history; it never disappeared, just “under new management.” Believing that prophecy came true would be to believe that Iraq does not exist.

[@burrhe]

So what you're saying is that this is a prophecy about nuclear war, and Babylon will get nuked so bad that nobody can live there again? I knew it...

[@renshawfamily]

what are you talking about, the ruins of Babylon are in Iraq and no one lives there. they are ancient ruins just like the pyramids and so on.

[@kawaiiskeleton297]

@@renshawfamily obviously. I mean sure, pieces of some of the old buildings are there and no one lives in those but Babylon was just the capital of the country Babylonia, and many ppl still live where Babylonia once was. Plus ppl still live in the general area where the city of Babylon was, same w the area the pyramids are in

[@j.c.5528]

@@renshawfamily Nah. Houses have been built within what was the bounds of the ancient city.

[@StuckInProgrammers]

"Gay people and 'genderism' have always existed, it's just that your influence on people and your power to make them hate is dwindling. And that makes certain people freak out and lash out." SO incredibly well put, I just had to highlight it! It perfectly and succinctly addresses the real issue.

[@aidennevada243]

I agree! Trans rights are human rights! 🏳️‍⚧️ 🏳️‍🌈

[@RedKincaid]

🏳️‍🌈🩷💜🩵🏳️‍⚧️

[@rmansfield6]

Odin promised us he'd destroy the frost giants, and I haven't seen one recently. Clearly Odin is real

[@MetalBansheeX]

checkmate ragnarök deniers

[@spinecho609]

Thors lightning can't melt steel beams

[@Elvengem]

If he is real,why is winter still around.or maybe with ice sheets melting ?

[@rmansfield6]

@@Elvengem Ask Ullr ( I had to look him up, apparently, he's the god of winter)

[@Ivytheherbert]

Actually, according to the Prose Edda, Odin just created an enclosed safe area called Midgard with a defensive wall around it, then outside that lies Jotunheim which was left to the giants. Then surrounding that was a vast ocean which Jormungandr (the world serpent) encircles. Odin and his brothers killed the giant Ymir (and then used his corpse for construction materials when making Midgard), but they didn't set out on a campaign of genocide against the giants.

[@jimhepworth]

With the Israel being established in 1948, I remember clearly the line that "this generation shall not pass away before this is fulfilled". It was popular in the 70's amongst Evangelicals to say that a generation was 40 years, so Jesus is coming back real soon. That kept up until here we are today. Nothing fails like Bible Prophecy.

[@smpittsburgh264]

There are many scriptures that pertain to end-times' events; these require careful study and illumination of the Holy Spirit to rightly understand. Men are called to put their trust in God and in his word which never fail: It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man (Psalm 118:8). The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to usward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance (2 Peter 3:9).

[@chrissonofpear1384]

@@smpittsburgh264 Is that, ah, the case? And how successful, was that methodology, during past schisms, wars, sectarianism, the blood libel upon Jews, the Inquisition, and a slave trade, that went on, for around three, and a half, centuries, within 'united Christendom'? Long, post John 17:20? (And Matthew 17:20 - too, varyingly, fulfilled) And would such a slave trade, have been able to go on, if Leviticus 25, and Exodus 21, and similar, had been made, fully, and unambiguously, defunct, and struck, out? Finally - how did Romans 1:18, fail, so heavily - in heaven? Early on.

[@thatonedude9744]

Why would an all powerful god make a holy text that’s apparently so easy to misinterpret? Couldn’t he have made a clearer source of info if he could do literally anything?

[@ChristopherSadlowski]

​@@smpittsburgh264 it's been, what, almost 4,000 years? He ain't coming back kid. Let it go. It's okay to be wrong. All you have to do is admit you were wrong and we can all move on from there.

[@kawaiiskeleton297]

@@thatonedude9744and then when I was in church my pastor and others preached that yes, the Bible is confusing and so is the Christian God but ofc bc it’s just all beyond human understanding and since humans are weak and foolish, you must trust God with all and believe his word. I thought that was mighty convenient.

[@petehjr1]

"who has sex with the creature" it was probably Zeus.

[@hannahbrennan2131]

It was definitely Zeus.

[@AD-dg3zz]

If anything, she should be trying to censor Zeus

[@histranger5808]

and then came zeus

[@amy_pieterse]

If the creature is a horse then it might have been Loki.

[@cassieisnothere]

well, while Zeus was involved in the creation of the centaurs, it actually *wasn't* him for once. as the story goes, Ixion was hitting on Hera and so Zeus created an illusion of Hera out of a cloud. Ixion and this cloud, called Nephele, did the do and Centaurus was born, who then went on to mate with mares at the mountain Pelion, creating the centaurs. As for Loki, since he had shapeshifted into a horse himself and only shifted back after the pegrancy, his kid is a horse too. six-legged tho, but still a horse. Edit: Sleipnir has 8 legs, my bad.

[@ennuiblue4295]

Fear will always sell. No matter how many generations pass, people will still want to believe we live forever if we grovel enough. Why is not ok to just.. go back to non-existance?

[@BrentARJ]

Cuz... Cuz... That means the people I don't like won't suffer forever. I want good things forever for me and people like me, and bad things forever for everyone else. Without that, I might as well just start doing all kinds of crimes because the only thing stopping me is magical rewards and punishments. I mean, duh.

[@ennuiblue4295]

@@BrentARJ that's true, my enemies must be smited post mortem! 😀 (although that means they're going to also have me smited ☹)

[@bluester7177]

Yeah, I don't understand this, I can't possibly be the only person who thinks after life non existence sounds nice, I have 0 will to live forever after having lived whatever many years I life for.

[@nightblade4713]

Not saying this is proof that we live after we die, but.... I've heard heart surgeons and such talk about how their patients leave their body, float and can accurately describe the surgery and environment even tho they had anesthesia and were "unconscious" It's not so simple.

[@JesusofPhilosophy]

@nightblade yeah it’s called an out of body experience. The problem is there have been studies that have shown that patients in these situations will miss certain details when in these states for example if there’s a shelf that a patient can’t see the top of they won’t notice anything on top of the shelf because they didn’t know it was there in the first place.

[@katethielen3883]

10:27 I believe what they are actually talking about is called "foreshadowing" 😅 when a book mentions something that will happen later in the book

[@derp195]

You're trying to teach a $10 word to people who think it's good evidence when the Bible says that the Bible is true. "How can you say that the Bible is untrue?! Have you read Timothy 3:16?"

[@titobear13]

Yes! Remember this later, it will come back around

[@justjukka]

Not to mention that the Bible is a collection of books, so my personal library is a prophetic asset, by that metric.

[@Jana-fp8qp]

Forshadowing is the answer to every gotcha attack. Try it it's a great defence😊 My crappy Chevy cavalier is a forshadowing to the Camaro I will get. Just wait, it will happen. I believe!

[@PastelOddity]

I’m from Arizona, and listening to these people talk about “miraculous things” in the desert is splitting my sides. I live in a town called Queen Creek, and the titular creek dries up and becomes a creek again sometimes during the monsoon season. It takes one unusual rainy season to recreate the Potomac in Phoenix.

[@vaiyt]

Same kind of people who think it's a sign of divine wrath when hurricanes strike hurricane prone areas during hurricane season.

[@dyerseve3001]

I love how he's like "Jesus is on his way, this is happening in our generation" and the applause was so lukewarm. 😂

[@ancientflames]

No one is really into going to heaven or doing really when it comes down to it haha

[@NicSantiagoG]

As a long time Simpsons fan, the fact that the all you can eat seafood place is named Chuck's is just icing on the cake

[@d3vitron779]

You see it’s funny because sneed, feed, seed. CHUCK, SU..

[@quixotes4478]

The joke is that Sneed bought Chuck's Seed and Feed and renamed it to Sneed's Seed and Feed. This is funny because it's not a very good investment, so it's unexpected that it would sell.

[@cewla3348]

@@d3vitron779 CHUCK, FUCK N SUCKS. THE LAST CUSTOMER'S RESIDUE IS TODAY'S MAYONAISE.

[@derp195]

Boromir had a premonition that said Aragorn would become king **and he did!** Lord of the Rings actually happened.

[@PurpleMetal75]

But Galadriel had a magic mirror that predicted that Sauron would take over Middle Earth, and that didn't happen. However, Anakin Skywalker was prophesied to being balance to the force, and he did. Therefore, Star Wars is real, and LOTR is evil for taking people away from the one true force.

[@luvcherry]

​@@PurpleMetal75 I think you're onto something big here

[@razony]

Yes, it did. I read it somewhere!

[@Elvengem]

literary prophecies imitate the mythology of prophecies in pagan religion.Much of it imitated by the demons who also knew the true prophecies of a resurrected messiah to come,the seed of the woman who would defeat the devil as told to Eve.

[@andresamaya6187]

@@luvcherry My man setting the scene for the Space-Middle Earth schism and the Galactic Crusades

[@davehallam3894]

Gotta love Christians being scared of the penis, you know part of God's great creation

[@hannahbrennan2131]

I'd say they're more scared of the vagina.

[@JackgarPrime]

God's Great Creation is what I call my penis

[@c.lineofficial]

If they love talking about sex, then you'd think they like to see dick, but nope. 😂

[@mwperk02]

They are also scared of the nipple but only on girls.

[@ChristopherSadlowski]

The body part, according to them, that is the MOST sacred! Because the "beautiful seed of life" comes out of it. And something about never spilling that seed on the ground because it's a waste of potential life or some stupid shit like that. I don't really know, I barely paid attention in church as a kid.

[@tylervelasquez5639]

As a Christian I love your critical thinking in this channel. You help challenge myself and get rid of old thinking

[@MrMattSax]

Imagine if the Bible contained specific names of people, places, events and specific times to the day and hour? Instead we have vague, poetic words, easily applicable to whatever event you desire, or we have a newer book writing about events that were written about in older books (ie ordering a steak and then getting a steak).

[@cyanmage1]

I always asked why the Bible is written like this when we have so many ancient texts and records that are written plainly, even at the time these events were happening no one wrote like this, its almost like its pointless confusing so people have to have someone tell them what its trying to convey and thus keep a measure of control

[@CreationSGame01]

You could get the time and hour but you still wouldn’t not believe because the truth is not in you.

[@MrMattSax]

@@CreationSGame01 that’s a great excuse for you to believe to reinforce your bias. Are you seriously telling me that vague dreams and symbolic images are the same as specific descriptions of events at specific times are the same thing? A videotape of a murderer committing the crime is on par with someone dreaming of a knife and a sword in a cloud and a dragon?

[@RedRabbitEntertainment]

​​​@@CreationSGame01How do you know? Considering we don't have specific times or anything? That's a reasonable thing to ask for when you're trying to argue someone predicted something with the power of the creator of the universe. Like, if I say a Muslim country will be invaded and conquered by infidels, I can't really claim to be divinely inspired. I mean, I guess I can. God told me so.

[@randomusername3873]

Well there is one prophecy that's more specific The one about jesus coming back before that generation passed Which never happened😂

[@calebr7199]

One thing to note about the Cyrus the Great part is that it was most likely written either after his conquest or right before, as in a year or two before. Seeing a big conquering army led by a powerful general and predicting they would do a bit more conquest isn't exactly what I would call a totally unpredictable prophecy.

[@dieSpinnt]

Yeah, that BS was made up AFTER historical events was never heard before ... And that theses crooks who are EARNING THEIR MONEY by telling such stories are the most honest people on earth is also clear. The best examples are the book of Mormon, most edicts of the popes (f.e. Golden Bull of 1356) and documents of the aristocracy. In short: Ever since there have been deeds, ownership documents and the recording of history, those crooks fake everything they can get their hands on to gain an advantage for themselves. Well Caleb, the only thing we should have left for such people is a "deep admiration" for so much criminal energy and then a kick in the a... immediately afterwards. Hehehe

[@tbotalpha8133]

"Eh, a few more victories, and I'm sure these 'Roman' fellas will pack it in and go home." - The Samnites, 343 BC

[@Uryvichk]

Similarly, let's say Jesus did exist and really did say to his disciples that "When you see armies surround Jerusalem, it will be destroyed." That's... just a guess. And not even a particularly out there guess. If armies surrounded Jerusalem, especially Roman armies, then yeah, it was probably not gonna be good times for Jerusalem. I don't think you needed the gift of prophecy to figure that out. All it would show is that Jesus was capable of reading the political climate and coming to the obvious conclusion.

[@GuyShōtō]

@@Uryvichk Judea had frequently revolted against the Romans so the Romans besieging the capital of Judea, isn't prophetic or even an educated guess, it's just common knowledge that if you rebel against the Romans, the center of politics of that region will be subject to the Roman Imperial machine. So even from a perspective based on what Judeans of that time knew, what Jesus was saying wasn't crazy or even prophetic it was just to be expected.

[@this.is.spencer]

What you said at the end really resonated. The beginning of the end for me was when I stumbled upon a site for people who had left the (LDS, in my case) church and it made me really uncomfortable to read their doctrinal and practical criticisms. I shut it down but later that night I thought "well, if what I believe is true, why should this stuff bother me?" So I went back to the site and within 2 hours, convictions I had held for 20-something years were undone. I "doubted my doubts" not by burying them but by looking honestly, and after that it became clear very quickly what the truth was.

[@mwperk02]

And that's why the church always tells you not to listen to "worldly sources"aka anyone that's not them.

[@kellen_mcsmellin]

Resonated with me too. For me, the phrase that stuck in my head was "truth isn't afraid", so I shouldn't be afraid to ask questions because if what I believe is true, reason should follow. I guess in the end I was right! Haha

[@AaronOnTheTrails]

So a funny story regarding Mormons and prophecy. There was this timeline the church made where things like Columbus coming to the Americas and the American revolution were mentioned and then they'd quote verses from the book of mormon to show it proved prophecy. Even in this LDS church produced timeline the prophecies stopped after 1830.

[@swamplinglvr]

This only works if you treat the Bible like a history book instead of a book of stories. Which I guess people do...damn.

[@Viteaification]

yeah the minute you compare the events in the bible to actual historical findings it doesnt add up. because you have to treat the bible as actual history many dont think to do that.

[@lyokianhitchhiker]

@@ViteaificationI always treated it as a book of stories whose own writers thought were true

[@lrcavalli290]

It's a book of stories,with some actual history written in it,in order to sell better... history is written by the winners, and changed by the whiners

[@polimana]

it's only now just dawning on me, after four years of deconstruction, how batshit this all truly is

[@DoctorXander]

I used to debate creationism with my friends in high school and thought I was making solid arguments and they were being deluded into believing Satan's lies. Turns out they thought seeing me get riled up about fairy tales was hilarious

[@polimana]

@@DoctorXander so real, i relate 🤡🦄

[@zuresei]

@@DoctorXander i was an evolutionary christian; i had the 7 days messed up and thought it lined up with the big bang theory. my justification was always "well my pastor tells me some bullshit about a week 'really' meaning several decades, so i'm just going to interpret a 'day' as an astrophysical and ecological era." my best friend was a creationist christian, and i was always so shocked because he understood genetics and natural selection but still REFUSED to believe those could result in the emergence of different species. he has since come around to my side, both in terms of evolution and my own eventual abandonment of the faith. i think he might still be a conservative, though (not the trans-hating kind, just the "i own a small business and vote the way i think will protect my lifestyle" type). one battle at a time...

[@alicewright4322]

23:40 It is crazy how sometimes the Harod killing all the babies thing is very important in christian lore, and then they just forget about it immediately. If the first christmas was also a time that the king murdered every male baby, then maybe it should be more somber and less festive.

[@alicewright4322]

also, easiest way for Jesus to avoid Harod: First trans kid. Maybe this is why he always wore his hair long with a dress even until his crucifiction.

[@pennyforyourthots]

To be fair, from what I understand Christmas actually did used to be a relatively somber thing, when it was celebrated at all (I'm pretty sure at the Puritans explicitly banned Christmas). I think it was around the time A Christmas Carol was published that it got its relatively modern festive celebration.

[@loopylynda1974]

Christmas is just capitalism on steroids! Nothing more!

[@treesdomain8405]

​@@alicewright4322jesus didnt have long hair, and he wore robes not a dress

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

It did not happen "on christmas", but a long time after, when Herod did not hear back from the (uncounted number of) wise men... possibly 2 years later going by something i only vaguely remember... I think the soldiers were supposed to ensure they got that king-child by killiong every kid below 2 years old... as if you can see that from how a toddler looks...

[@BirthquakeRecords]

I loved the “don’t be passive aggressive about it” addition to your sign-off at the end! I’ve always imagined that some people/trolls might choose to interpret “send this to someone who you think might benefit” as “be a know-it-all dickhead to someone about their faith by sending them something they’re probably not ready to hear”. It’s good to add a special message to those people to not weaponize your (perfectly reasonable and measured and thoughtful) videos in a petty display of hostility. Your videos have never felt like a “gotcha!” to me - they feel like a supportive voice being honest about some hard truths (with some levity sprinkled in for good measure). So the idea of someone being passive aggressive with your work rubs me the wrong way.

[@bdpickett]

47:44 Love how this guy is highlighting the tower of Babel in an era where we have literally been to Space!

[@Kayclau]

And also, you would think that whoever designed a building were people from different places who talk multiple different languages might actually want it to resemble the place where according to legend languages were created.

[@LPVince94]

Same story with people who point at ancient stone structures and say "Muh precision cut can't be replicated today" when we can cut metal in a way that the cutline becomes invisible to the naked eye.

[@vaiyt]

The heathens over at the UAE built a literal cloud piercing tower.

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

you should not confuse the children's bible "excuse" of they tried to reach the heavens with the REAL story as told in genesis... the gods (as they h9old a council about the danger and what to do about it) were shocked by the ability of the humans to work together and were afraid they would no longer be needed (or capable of stopping the people if they let them succeed in their project, so the confgusion of the languages was their emergency break to avoid humans becoming as powerful as the gods through collaboration. meet the internet, both capable of translating almost every language into any other (including fantasy languages created for books or RPGs) and enabling humans to collaborate around the whole world. Google is more powerful than the godS of the bible. ;)

[@basilg695]

The longer I've been away from church the crazier it all sounds. But I am still so heartbroken for the countless individuals that dive so deep into their religion that they lose touch with reality and other people. That happens to include my own father, I still speak with him and respect him. But I do sincerely wish that I wasn't indoctrinated as a child. I wish that we didn't need to have such a necessary space between us because of how strong his devotion is. I can only be around him for so long before I get sad. I would never argue with him or tell him he's wrong... But I will also never have an entirely authentic relationship with him either.

[@kellen_mcsmellin]

"I will never have an entirely authentic relationship with him..." Wow that's exactly how I feel with my mother. So many boundaries have to be put up and at the end of the day no matter what I do or how good of a person I am, it will never be enough because I "didn't turn out the way she expected". I see how much she suffers emotionally for a god that is supposed embody love and yet has convinced her that her children will burn in hell forever and that she will be happy about it in heaven. Absolutely nuts.

[@SavedByJesus-pi3yu]

I’m sure he feels the same way about you.

[@Elvengem]

that they lose touch with reality and other people." Everyone regardless of religion is losing touch with others now days,especially drug addicts and little young hedonistic materialists out there who cant say hi to anyone anymore.

[@ericlondon2663]

My abusive zealot of a father-in-law once showed up at our home to "teach you [me] how to biblically keep your wife", which means he came over to teach me how to beat his daughter.....NOT even close to making this up.. He tried to use the Bible like a wizard's spell book by reciting verse as he walked towards our front door....and me telling him to go home before something bad happened to him. The result? Something bad happened to him over and over again until he crawled off my front lawn.

[@DimaRakesah]

I wrote a story with a prophecy in it and then the prophecy came true later in my story and now I realize I CAN TELL THE FUTURE!

[@ruths_youth]

ugh, I grew up listening to that stupid silver dollars in Texas line and absolutely fell for it (I mean, I was a kid, of course I'd believe what the adult "experts" in my life told me). Thank you so much for all the research you present to us, Trevor. Your channel is what started my deconstruction in earnest. Love ya!

[@redrasegarden]

Ya know. Considering we don’t know when or who wrote the Bible, is it possible these weren’t meant to be prophesies but a plot device for their book?

[@mitotakjde9763]

​@@redrasegardenalso with the virgin birth, if at least part of it was true, then i would bet that she cheated with a neighbour, and then claimed that shes still virgin and that she's having a child with a god. And that's how Christianity might've started. Would be absolutely hilarious, if it would be possible to see how each religion was created

[@redrasegarden]

@@mitotakjde9763 actually (though I admit I’m getting this from a movie) it’s not impossible to be pregnant and not have sex. Still need to make close contact with the guy tho. So maybe a steamy make out session and she thought she was having a kid from god?

[@mitotakjde9763]

@@redrasegarden nope, only way to get pregnant is to somehow get close to sperm, so that would have to be quite crazy making out tbh. It is possible to get pregnant without actual penetration, but still requires contact with sperm and is extremely unlikely. (depends on many variables, but you can say that it's as likely as getting directly hit by a lightning 2 times in the same day, while being in bed at home. Its basically impossible, unless you do it intentionally and even then it's unlikely..)

[@redrasegarden]

@@mitotakjde9763 thank u. But if I’m to simplify, if they did...whatever it would take to not penatrait could they still claim it’s god while being ignorant

[@gojub3173]

I got to the point where I was ok with listening to alternative points of view (non-religious) until they threatened my belief system - which wasn't very far. I was listening to a secular, free-thinking podcast on the regular where one of their catchphrases was "Belief is the enemy of knowing", and I'd always skimmed over it; but when I actually thought about what that phrase meant, it opened my mind in ways I had never before experienced. It has since been a wonderful, fabulous, freeing journey, as I have since left the faith I was raised and held captive in. It's ironic, because now that I'm out, I can see how shallow, limiting and empty all of these belief systems are. Free at last.

[@ivanf4023]

I swear every Simpsons prediction was current events that people forgot. Remember "Simpsons predict covid"? Literally a thing that happened. Some novel flu virus from Japan came overseas via shipping of some sort. Siegfried and Roy had been attacked by their tigers while performing like six times when "the attack" happened. So that was current events. Not a prediction. Live by the tiger, die by the tiger.

[@Geospasmic]

Plus I think we all knew it was a matter of time with those tigers.

[@lyokianhitchhiker]

I think every Simpsons prediction was 1 of 2 things: *A then-current event that they made fun of, & the joke ended up becoming relevant again when something else happened that brought it to mind. *A case where somebody got the idea to do it Irl after watching the show

[@vaiyt]

Fucking Space Ghost had a wrist communicator and nobody holding that cartoon as prophetic.

[@ivanf4023]

@@vaiyt Dick Tracy... 1946. and I doubt that was an original idea

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

Donald Trump had two failed presidential runs for thrid parties before 2015... one of them coincides with the President Lisa gag... And what the heck is "prophetic" about the All you can eat" buffet thing? That must have happend tens of thousands of times as the restaurants do not like to loose hundreds of dollars on one insatiable stomach, especially if you don't buy dozens of drinks to accompany the feast...

[@isaacevilman7586]

Also, it didn’t really predict Sigfreid and Roy. In reality, Roy fainted and the tiger tried to pick him up the way it would pick up a cub to take him to safety, not realizing that humans can’t be picked up like that. That is markedly different from them just getting mauled like the show depicted.

[@CraftyVegan]

I recall an interview with Roy saying something like this, that the tiger saved his life rather than anything malicious.

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

the Simpsons benefit from the Spaghetti effect... if you throw enough limp noodles at a wall, some will eventually stick. And most "prescient" scenes can be traced back (and have been traced so) to recent events in the news when the episodes were in production... so more snarky extrapolation of "just yesterday" than cunning prediction of 15 years in the future.

[@estrellaanne1589]

Awww the tiger was just trying 😢

[@averagejoe455]

I love reading Revelations. Beautiful recording of a man jazzed out on bread mold and the resulting hallucinations he experiences.

[@thealgorithmluvsu3788]

Don't know if its true, but I've heard the island of Patmos has local shrooms around. John was tripping something fierce.

[@renshawfamily]

I love revelations as well that's because out of every believer to have ever exited, then you have about 12,000,000 to 1 that you are one of the 144,000 to go to heaven and that's counting that the end of the world is today and not 20 or 50 years from now.

[@imoldgreggboosh3467]

@@renshawfamily "The Earth will be made into a heavenly paradise where believers will exist - 144,000 'special' people will rise to heaven to rule with heysoos."

[@renshawfamily]

@@imoldgreggboosh3467 just don't try to explain that only 144,000 are going to heaven to most believers because that means throw out Christian belief they only have about 12,000,000 to 1 about being one of the 144,000.

[@imoldgreggboosh3467]

@@renshawfamily I'm just repeating what the jehovah's witless' believe - hence the quotation marks and phonetic spelling of their god's name . . .

[@gregorymckinney666]

The Bible is being showed up by a ridiculous prime time cartoon

[@savvy76]

you're pushing the engagement for this video OUT THE ROOF congrats man

[@hcolli]

How dare you? The Simpsons may be many things, but ridiculous? That's a bit much.

[@samhall7385]

All those shows are more impressive than the Bible on its own. The Bible would just be a shit novel if nobody believed it was true. Steven King is more impressive to me because he isn't asking anyone to worship him or his ideas but about as many people know of him as know of christ

[@gregorymckinney666]

@@hcolli in every episode they do a little bit of plagiarism

[@christophermiller3031]

​@@samhall7385 Stephen King relies alot on Christian symbology tbh 😮 his books could be written for a world that has god 100% he isn't hard sci fi. and we need to recognize media wherein god exists (demons, ghosts, etc) is Christian media. Satire gets an exemption if only understood as satire by society as a whole...

[@Erimgard13]

The Simpsons doing the Trump escalator scene after the fact, AKA the Book of Daniel lol

[@realguy7808]

The cyrus prophecy

[@ArnLPs]

Jesus being burried with the rich and the wicked sounds more like it's the same thing. It sounds to me like rich means evil...which is very in line with a lot of jesus teachings.

[@trenhen4311]

Makes u wonder why Christian’s are such hardline capitalists and support policies that lift the rich and drown the poor.

[@Uryvichk]

Also, he was not buried with anyone, according to the Gospel stories. Saying he died on the cross with some wicked people and was buried in a rich man's tomb -- even if we accept all of that nonsense as true -- is not being buried WITH anybody. The stories say he was placed, alone, in a tomb. So that's just straight up wrong.

[@Cyrathil]

My favorite quote in regards to Biblical prophecy is 1 Thessalonians 5:2 "You know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night." Even if the contextual meaning is Christians don't need to worry about being caught unaware, the implication of it and several verses in the Bible is it's not a predictable thing. Signs won't be trickled out slowly. The coming of God will be fast and unpredictable...

[@ahorseofcourse7283]

The coming of God will be fast and unpredictable? Well damn, no wonder Mary had to give birth in a manger. The Good Lord Almighty needs to wear a fucking rubber.

[@torrencejoseph]

Reading entire passages and then recognizing cherry picking to make a prophesy appear true is how I started my deconstruction.

[@flowingafterglow629]

Re: the nakedness of David and how awful it is for 6th graders... We took a trip to Italy last spring with my kids' middle school. Mostly 7th graders. If they think the statue of David is bad, they need to check out the Neptune monument in Bologna. I'm sure their heads would explode. Look it up. It's actually pretty cool. One of my favorite monuments we saw in Italy (along with Trevi Fountain in Rome) (hint: the phrase 'masturbating mermaids' is not a far off)

[@cyanmage1]

I would hate for these parents to learn what a quick google search can show your kids lol

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

They also seem to have no idea how a 13 year old will react to seeing a supersmall penis in eyeheight... they will not be oversexed, they will make raucous jokes about the miniature sausage...

[@redandblue323]

They really hammer the prophecy thing but completely ignore the fact that the New Testament repeatedly predicts the imminent end of the world (imminent in relation to the first century AD) and was wrong about it. How can they overlook this?

[@Otherwise88]

It gets interpreted as meaning that the end is coming any day now.

[@sdlorah6450]

There are many verses in the Bible about the end times; these must be understood within their proper context and that of the Bible as a whole. The Bible says that one day with the Lord is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day (see 2 Peter 3:8). The context of this verse is that of unbelievers complaining regarding the Lord's promised return. The Bible foretells in 2 Peter 3:3-4: Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning. God is long suffering and not willing that any perish, but that all come to repentance (see 2 Peter 3:9). The Bible warns that all men are sinners in need of salvation through faith in Jesus Christ who bore our sins in his own body upon the tree that men might be forgiven (see 1 Peter 2:24). He died and rose again in accordance with the scriptures and saves all who put their trust in him (see 1 Corinthians 15:3-4). Believers who study the scriptures know that the very complaining by scoffers about the timing of Jesus' return fulfills God's word.

[@mwperk02]

​@@sdlorah6450 yes the writers of the bible anticipated scoffing at it for being wrong so they built in a mechanism so that when people call it out on its bullshit they can turn around and say that proves the bible. It of course proves nothing supernatural has occured, is occuring, or ever will occur.

[@chrissonofpear1384]

@@sdlorah6450 And what of Matthew 24:24 and 10:23, meantime? And He's not willing any should perish - but will FESTOON fire from the sky, or fiery serpents, in Numbers 11 and 21, just to people complaining about FOOD? Or 70,000, slain, by a plague, for just being COUNTED IN A CENSUS, by King David - in 2 Samuel 24? I think He may be prone, to binging, then. And that's leaving aside 'predestinates' too, ala Romans 8:30, or Revelations 13:8. And 'narrow paths few may find' etc. Whilst why is Satan owed to BE here, keep any powers, or EVER revisit heaven? And parade his ludicrous, unreliable view of Job, or anyone else, up there? Lastly - what has, become, of John 14:12-13?

[@redandblue323]

@@sdlorah6450 First of all: Second Peter was probably not written by Peter. Second Peter doesn't "foretell" scoffers complaining about the non-appearance of the end of the world; it describes what was happening in the author's own day. Which was in the second century AD, probably. So you had people back then, more than a thousand years ago, observing that the promise of the Lord's coming HAD NOT MATERIALIZED. Knowing that, I don't understand how you can continue to maintain that the Lord is coming back "soon." It's just willful blindness and ignornace.

[@krumblemumble8628]

32:26 That guy saying 'Wars. Check. Earthquakes. Check. Famines. Check' reminds me of Murmaider by Metalocalype: Dethklok 🤣

[@bluester7177]

I always find this I te resting because all of these things have been common since always, it's not a prediction to say a place where earthquakes happen there will be earthquakes in the future.

[@flowingafterglow629]

Wars. Check Earthquakes. Check Famines. Check Pornography. Check From time immemorial.

[@nicholasrodinos4701]

The whole rapture thing just sounds creepily narcissistic like "Hey our generation is the special ones that God will save, so there's no need to concern ourselves with the 'other people's problems.'"

[@kruegertcg9830]

This is absolutely a common response to liberal policy and talking points among evangelical alt-right circles. Literally any initiative to improve the lines of humans in reality can be equally dismissed by the assertion that the end times are coming anyway, so it doesn’t really matter. It’s almost incomprehensibly toxic

[@Elvengem]

if that were true, some Christians would not be caring enough to preach and warn others to not be left behind from the rapture. Plus they do have church counselors to try to get people away from addictions and help with food pantries.

[@enviousflower1609]

last year , i went into this thinking that i could use whatever apologetics i could to deflect your arguments but instead it led me down a path of questioning and researching . today , i’m a really happy and content atheist . the fear of not being good enough to be raptured is gone and i feel so free! thank you for helping me

[@bethanymatthews7936]

Ok, I'm a material scientist, and that pastor really fucked up the iron thing, he showed a crystal structure which a bunch of different metals have that structure.... so you could say the atomium represents silver or gold just as much as iron. I know the people talking about the monument said pretty much the same, but it really bothered me. Also he called it a molecule... and that's a unit cell :P

[@flowingafterglow629]

What, you expected him to say, "This is the face-centered cubic structure of the iron unit cell"? (to be honest, I don't know if that structure is FCC) Actually, the guy who described the monument did say it was a metallic crystal structure, or something like that. He certainly didn't call it a molecule.

[@bethanymatthews7936]

@@flowingafterglow629 I meant the pastor called it a molecule. I'm pretty sure the structure he showed is bcc, but I'm not going to wade back through to find out. It's a five second Google and the pastor didn't even bother. I get I can't expect much from these people, but I'm still kind of newly out of my faith, so it's hard to handle still.

[@christopherhamilton3621]

It is clearly a BCC crystal model. The pastor is clearly speaking out of his a@&e, and the real shame is his ignorant audience is being fed utter bullshit and helping perpetuate fraudulent nonsense & belief in this fake priesthood of Jesus who we really ought be shot of…

[@cwispygiraffe]

I dont even understand what the iron guy's point was. even if it did look like an iron molecule... so? what does that mean?

[@SilverDragonJay]

"he will be buried with the rich and the wicked" you see, that's actually a very easy one to do. A lot of rich people are also _bad_ people. Guarantee you, if you were buried in a cemetery full of rich people, at least some of them are going to be wicked. (honestly, probably a rule of any cemetery, people can be pretty shit regardless of their socioeconomic status, but rich people often have to be shitty people in order to be substantially wealthy) On that river in the desert thing: deserts actually _need_ to flood occasionally. Yeah, deserts are dry af, but sometimes it rains. Unfortunately, because the ground is so dry when that happens, the water doesn't actually sink into the ground, the dirt's too hard and compacted, so it just flows around on top. This is important because there are plants in the desert, so a lot of plants rely on these periodic floods to store tons of water at once to get them through the dry months and years to follow.

[@shfsdfhsdfdfnvl3081]

"When you hear of wars and rumors of war, do not be troubled, for such things must happen, but the end is not yet - Mark 13:7" Im Jewish but I have had this quote on my wall for two years as someone who is studying conspiracy theories because its comforting. It makes me feel like I am doing enough work to address the devastating effects of conspiracy theories even if people are still going to be doing this long after I'm gone. I'm mindblown that this line has been used to 'prove' Protestant Biblical Prophecy because the whole reason this line exists is because the early compilers of scripture were trying to quell the tendency to develop prophecies from scary contemporary events and somehow its been appropriated to do the exact opposite

[@timothyskidmore1554]

It's amazing how we as humans take natural occurrences and fit them to prophecy

[@fluffgreybeard8073]

Newspapers could seem prophetic if read hundreds of years in the future (Especially if you don't have the front page with the date on it)

[@safiyanunes8618]

So, growing up, lapsed Catholic in New England, I was taught by clergy that the Bible is all parable and/or allegory. In CCD, the nuns told us Revelation was a story written by a persecuted Christian in a time when that actually happened and that it's basically wishful thinking.

[@medes5597]

Yeah that's what the vast majority of catholics are like. What's being described here are Evangelical protestants.

[@safiyanunes8618]

@Communist Shoplifting Yeah, so I've noticed living in the South. I didn't even know people paid attention to Revelations by Jon until I moved here. Like I was taught, it was kind of an apochryphal addendum. Huge culture shock down here for me. The other part that startled me about Evangelicals is that they focus way too much on text rather than Acts. How tf can somebody call oneself a Christian if they aren't committed to social justice?

[@JohanKylander]

​@@safiyanunes8618Don't worry about it, God will come _any day_ now and fix everything.

[@Elvengem]

those nuns didnt understand bible prophecy,nor does most catholic theology,always explaining it away in Preterist methods or non literalism.

[@toongrowner1]

100% accurate? The bible can't even 100% accurate describe the past. XD

[@n8thanael]

Same as any historical accounts, people can't even agree who won the 2020 election. You'll never achieve 100% agreement on anything. Whatever exceeds a person's threshold of belief is all that is necessary.

[@tazman5129]

When I was 13, I went to church for the first time with my friend because he invited me. I never really thought about religion because my parents weren't religious and they never tried to force any ideals on me. The sermon that day was about the rapture. The pastor explained the series of events in great detail. At the time, I was into writing plots and ideas for video games. After the sermon, my friend asked me what I thought. I said that the story of the rapture could make for a pretty cool video game, as that is all I was thinking about during the sermon. He was not amused. Its worth noting that this is the same friend that said during our science class as we were discussing the forming of planets and their moons that our moon could not had come from the earth, because if it did, it would have decapitated all the dinosaurs.

[@timmyjacobs0]

My parents love the line about "1000 years of peace" and here i am waiting for that to kick in any minute now

[@Marxist-Chillest]

Idea: Belief It Or Not binge but you take a shot every time he brings up The Simpsons 🥴🥴

[@connoremsley1692]

Well, that’s one way to get Alcohol Poisoning.

[@mirandarensberger6919]

Don't do this alone! You'll need someone sober enough to call an ambulance.

[@cindys9491]

The odd thing the pastor says around 41:00 about "the (US) dollar going away soon" and "America falling" is that I had an evangelical English (?) teacher in like 1992-3 who told our 8th grade class that America was on its way out, "the dollar is weaker" etc. Why is it so important to strict evangelicals to predict whether America is here in "the end" or not. After all, we're not mentioned in the book.

[@vaiyt]

Exceptionalism. America is the new rome and new israel, like britain used to be.

[@tulip811]

How else will the US keep their sects

[@BodyByBenSLC]

Oh yah people were never violent or horny before all this filth in the media.

[@tulip811]

The majority wasn't, only the rich and wealthy (like marquis de Sade)

[@genk9798]

As a chemist, hearing the words "iron molecule" hurts my brain. It's iron atoms in a cristalline matrix. Damn pastors who don't understand the words they are using but use them anyways because it makes them more convincing to their congregations.

[@CCP-Lies]

As a student learning chemistry, me too

[@baynana2384]

Trevor, my parent who is very religious and into conspiracy theories regarding biblical prophecy (a big fan of JD Farag) has just informed me that someone talking about how biblical prophecies don't come true is the REAL conspiracy theory 😂😅 anyway, great video as always :)

[@madelinemitchell104]

My Dad used to tell me that arguments against Christianity prove Christianity is true because only Satan would be against Christianity therefore Satan is real therefore Christianity is real! It shames me that we share DNA....

[@ActiveAdvocate1]

The stuff with Herod all parallels the Moses story, where the Pharaoh orders all Israelite male babies to be killed, but a lot of them are saved by good midwives and/or good mothers. In turn, the Moses story parallels the Krishna story, which I THINK is older, or at least contemporary, where the evil king Kansa hears that the eighth son of his sister Devaki will kill him. So he orders a female demon named Putana to kill all of the baby boys born within the previous week. She DOES find baby Krishna, disguisers herself as a nurse, and offers His foster mother to breastfeed Him, but He skips the milk and goes straight to SUCKING OUT HER BLOOD. Vicious little baby God. And I'm not a Hindu, but I do love Krishna. I think He's an excellent symbol. Oh, and He's also a renowned demon slayer who taught religious truths and raised the dead. Say hi to Jesus' later career there, eh?

[@juanausensi499]

The same history with Ouranos and Chronos, then Chronos and Zeus, and then Zeus and Athena. Curiously, the prophecy was wrong with Athena.

[@Elvengem]

All those stories of killing the infants was inspired by Satan. The two in the Bible were his attempt to stop two Holy ones of God. That one about Krishna is also devilish but perhaps copied from the Bible.

[@ethantracy337]

Psalms: 69 is an awesome Ministry song.

[@tombingus3984]

Is that the one that goes "Psalm body once told me the Lord was gonna blow me?"

[@nataschavisser573]

Reminds me of my days sneaking into the local goth club when I was still underaged. The goths would rush the dance floor when it started to play.

[@oculttheexegaming2509]

Also "Just One Fix", "Jesus Built My Hotrod" and "Breathe".

[@pancakes8670]

"All Bible prophecies come true!" What about the ones that didn't happen the way they were supposed to? "They just haven't happened yet!"

[@Been._.Folded]

You have the pure ability to smoothly integrate your introduction into the topic of the video like no other person I’ve ever seen

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Bible prophecies are accurate if they provide names, dates and locations of the prophesied event. I am eagerly awaiting such an announcement.

[@sm8johnthreesixteen]

The book of Daniel in the Old Testament was written after the start of the Babylonian captivity in the 500s BC. It gave a date concerning Jesus Christ, the Messiah: Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself... Daniel 9:25-26a The book of Nehemiah in the Old Testament records the giving of the command as referenced in Daniel. Jesus was 'cut off' for the sins of mankind; he died, was buried, and rose again the third day according to the scriptures (see 1 Corinthians 15:3-4). God offers the gift of eternal life to us to be received by faith in Jesus Christ (see Romans 6:23).

[@ramigilneas9274]

@@sm8johnthreesixteen Seems more like the supposed prophecy and the resurrection legend don’t have many similarities.

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

@@sm8johnthreesixteen In what way is the Jesus story happening 62 weeks after 500 BCE? If you need to apply funky maths to it, the prophecy is not clearly referring to the event as you could just use other maths to point to any other point in time you wish to add. A week has 176 hours... so 62 weeks of 176 hours clearly means 10912 years. See? Numerology games prove nothing except desperation to find ANY reason to believe Point X is the answer.

[@lilyclay7489]

I’ll be honest I forgot I was watching a video about religion not the Simpsons for a sec

[@pedrotalons1422]

Lmao same!

[@DarthTingleBinks]

I could totally take that dude out of context and quote him saying, "If it's not from God it has to be from God." And I just did. Edit: Also, the only 100% correct prophecy I've ever seen, in real life or in fiction, was in the Evil Dead franchise. Ash sees an image of himself in the medieval kingdom of Kandar before he ever goes to medieval kingdom of Kandar. And it is a prophecy because even the people of that kingdom had foreknowledge of his arrival, as the Necronomicon was written well before their kingdom existed because it was written by the Dark Ones centuries, if not millenia, prior. Edit 2: God, Christians say cum and cumming too much.

[@Insert.Oregano]

I'm glad I wasn't the only one distracted by all the talk of "coming" lol

[@brenton2561]

The second cumming is near...

[@frmrchristian8488]

Man, you're one of the hardest working content creators on YT. Not to mention one of the best!

[@ramigilneas9274]

The funny thing is that Luke expects us to believe that at the time of the birth of Jesus everyone kept records where their ancestors lived 1000 years ago but no one recorded that a silly census like this ever happened.

[@teresabenson3385]

In many cultures, the tribal identity and historical place is a lot more important than a temporary inconvenience required by a foreign government.

[@jenniferhiemstra5228]

Ok but even better, like...who decided how far back that ancestry would go in terms in which city to even go to? Geezzz...

[@Nick-Nasti]

@@teresabenson3385 and it's often wrong. Extremely common for people to rewrite family trees to descend from famous people.

[@Elvengem]

Jews had scrolls with geneologies written down. Agricultural society inheritances with tribal knowledge was very important to Jews.

[@ramigilneas9274]

@@Elvengem Some even had a genealogy that went back to a fictional character like Adam.😂

[@drowsap8458]

It feels weird hearing my name (Isaiah) said so often throughout the video lmao. My family still believes in prophecies like these, as well as the end times happening in this century, so this was an interesting watch.

[@nicholasrodinos4701]

"Jesus's own brethren and siblings didn't believe he was the Messiah." Imagine someone so obnoxious that they constantly talk about being the special savior that will fix all of our problems, committing blasphemy and talking about how much better than you they are. Wow, people didn't like him I wonder why?

[@KhiemNguyen-ly1wz]

Another hard lesson of life. Even if you’re right, if you act like an obnoxious jackass about it, nobody’s gonna listen to you. Even when they know you might be right.

[@TheGeekRex]

My family was watching The Chosen and they got to the part where everyone started hating him. I won't lie, watching that...I suddenly completely empathized with the Pharisees, they were just doing their jobs and putting a stop to a false prophet.

[@vaiyt]

They knew him too well

[@doctorshell7118]

These clips are why people think that Christians can’t do math. Great point about The Simpson’s.

[@madihedges5288]

Hi Trevor! I've been watching your channel for a while and I really appreciate all the difficult things you're able to discuss with tact and humor, it has really helped! This video made me think of evolution, since I've been hardcore watching early humanity documentaries (like NORTH02 channel). Would you ever be interested in doing a video about actual early history versus the Bible? Where are the Neanderthals??? 😂 Anyways, thanks for all of your great videos and keep up the great work!

[@ahorseofcourse7283]

God smote them for all their sexy, sexy sodomy.

[@aazhie]

An absolute banger of an opening, thanks for such nuanced breakdowns of Simpsons Prophecy xD

[@FrankClark]

thank you for this. my own deconversion process started with the whole "my faith is unshakable, so i should be willing to question it". two days later i was no longer christian. also, with this whole "300 prophecies" business - they always say "a scientist calculated the odds..." but they never say who the scientist was or how that scientist even came up with the numbers to calculate the odds LOL! anyways, awesome video as are all your videos :*

[@Memoreism]

Yeah did anyone notice that that pastor was just assigning arbitrary numbers to those prophesies, and then multiplying the numbers together? "1 out of a 1000, 1 out of 10,000, 1 out of 1000..." then of course your going to have a big number, you chose big numbers out of thin air! I feel like it undermines my intelligence. Maybe people with a lower IQ will believe his words, but the average person will think deeper than that.

[@LadyEvilest]

Buried with the rich and the wicked? Why the redundancy?

[@Silburific]

My thoughts exactly. The venn diagram of "rich" and "wicked" is a circle.

[@lyokianhitchhiker]

@@Silburificeh, it depends. I’ve noticed that it’s mostly things like business executives & trust fund brats where they go hand in hand. Things like lottery winners who managed to keep their winnings in the long-term & people who got that rich despite being in lines of work you wouldn’t associate with that sort of wealth tend to be more decent folk

[@cyanmage1]

@@lyokianhitchhiker but back in ancient times you didn't get rich or at least stay wealthy if you didn't do something wicked, murder bribes theft stuff like that, good people just really didn't get far in life

[@lyokianhitchhiker]

@@cyanmage1 Maybe the good people who got far just didn’t become household historical names. & why would being a good person cause you to lose the money you already got?

[@RedRabbitEntertainment]

Rich people aren't the issue, it's the undemocratic hierarchies that control society's resources, distribution, production, and services.

[@Soapy-chan_old]

"The fictional character invented in this book to fulfil prophecies from earlier chapters, fulfils the prophecies invented in the earlier chapters, thus this invented fictional character exists and he book is true"

[@mathiasrryba]

Divinely inspired prophet, George Lucas.

[@sobertillnoon]

If nearly every story about someone is made up and the stories that aren't could apply to literally every other person that also fills a similar role, then how is it meaningful to still say that he was based on someone real?

[@Nick-Nasti]

It's not prophecy if it's vague.

[@sparrowthesissy2186]

Not only is the "virgin will bear a child" prophecy a mistranslation of "maiden" into "virgin," but the "pierced my hands and feet" line from Psalm 22 was added by Christian translators. The Masoretic texts (oldest complete Jewish Bible) has Psalm 22:17 as "For dogs have encompassed me; A company of evil-doers have enclosed me; *Like a lion, they are at my hands and my feet.* I may count all my bones; They look and gloat over me." Shoutouts to Rabbi Tovia Singer for pointing these out on the Gnostic Informant show.

[@King_of_ferrets]

Just an FYI: the Western Wall really isn't part of the temple. It's a retaining wall - it's not "the outer wall of a compound", it's the edge of an artificial *hill*. I think we'd consider a modern building to have not one stone remaining if you stripped it to its foundation, because that's not the building, it's a vacant lot. There are plenty of other good arguments against prophecy (many, many of them in this video) - we can ditch that one.

[@mirandarensberger6919]

He covers this problem in the video. At the time, the retaining wall was considered part of the temple. People now say it wasn't because they want the prophecy to be true.

[@fluffhead6757]

Once you become aware of a preacher's breathing you will never become Unaware of it. Much like the glaring gaps in their prophecies.

[@BriannadaSilva]

42:08 As a lesbian I laughed out loud at "genderism and LBGTQ". 😂

[@unamejames]

I honestly forgot the specific examples, but there are at least 2 or 3 times where NT writers misunderstood or mistranslated OT prophecy and then tried to write that it was fulfilled, clearly misunderstanding what the OT said.

[@vaiyt]

Early christian beliefs borrowed from a form of jewish milllenialism popular at the time, where people would comb over the torah and read hidden meanings in every verse, treating everything as a potential prophecy.

[@richardjenkins7764]

You are so good at this! Thank you for your channel and all your knowledge and research! 👍😎❤️❤️❤️

[@melaniemills4505]

Had religious folk assure me back in the eighties that my husband would accept the Lord into his heart and Jesus would heal our marriage...never happened. 😒

[@dale6613]

Imagine that

[@nataschavisser573]

Same with my mom and dad. We all prayed for him to become a decent, non-abusive human being to no avail. Since my mom was taught to 'submit' to her husband, she would not leave him. His death was a relief.

[@melaniemills4505]

@nataschavisser573 ...I even had a lady tell me that if I prayed sincerely enough, my husband would get "jealous" over the happiness and peace I found as a Christian and he would want that for himself as well...🙄

[@presentfuture7563]

​@@melaniemills4505 Obvs, you didn't pray or believe hard enough! /sarcasm with a dash of rage

[@tulip811]

Don't they always say you can't change a human through prayer. It's witchcraft

[@nanopanda]

Mickey: its a secret tool that will help us later ~ ChrisCons: WOW THE PROPHECY IS FORTOLD!!

[@aldohorn1704]

I have to stand up for some churches here (my former one). When talk of the end times started they simpky said, "No, no one knows when." And these prophecies that mention things that is always is happening was proof to us that no one will ever know when. The point was that it could happen any time. So always be ready... with all the trauma and weird stuff that "always be ready" implies. Because even if I stand up for them - they were still a church afterall.

[@cosmicqt9647]

That word "alma" that's used in Isaiah to describe a young woman (mistranslated as "virgin") is specifically used 9 other times in the Old Testiment, one of which is used while describing an adulteress woman (in Proverbs 30).

[@lfrankzilla9556]

32:40 Homeboy really used the Halo 3 active players map for his prophecy bullet-point presentation

[@flowingafterglow629]

50:00 "Archeologists predict the [Euphrates] river will dry up by 2050." Why in the heck would archeologists be making predictions about the Euphrates river?

[@jenniferhiemstra5228]

Right???

[@ImOnTheEdge243]

I haven't seen the whole video but I hope he mentions the sci fi book "Stand on Zanzibar." It "predicted" the population of the earth and the acceptance of LGBTQ+. I think it did more but I'm not sure. But yeah, pretty cool.

[@Nocturnalux]

Ursula le Guin predicted much in the way we view human sexuality.

[@DavidRichardson153]

It predicted a whole lot more. Extra Credits did a little summary of the predictions that came true in their little spin-off, Extra Sci-Fi, and even after reading the book myself, I feel like I overlooked some other predictions beyond that summary.

[@vaiyt]

​@@NocturnaluxLe Guin didn't predict as much as she acknowledged things that weren't mainstream yet.

[@joeykitty8678]

Appreciate the exposition work you do on all this kind of stuff, and the way you just lay it all out flat and say how it is is inspiring... There definitely are at least a couple of the, I guess, more fundamentalist type of Christians in my family...? I do still go to church on Sundays, I guess to kinda save face, (or whatever the saying is), or to at least look holy. :P I kinda wanna be funny and say "pray for me", but Idk, I just find it all kinda sad, sometimes... I find it sad how some Christians do things like protest gays, and then say things like "It's because he loves you/we love you." I find it kinda sad how I was threatened by a priest to be kicekd out of Church once, because I was rocking back and forth a bit. (I have autism) I find it kinda sad how a lot of people who claim to follow a guy who said: "Judge not, lest' ye be judged" often seme to judge firs,t and ask questions later. I do still have respect for people who both see it AND follow it as a religion of love, because, Imo, that's how it's suppsoed to be. Not everyone practices what they preach... They again, maybe it's not all love to certain types of people/people gorups, so it's all kidna a confusing mess, anyway. Some of it is, anyway. As far as I'm concerned, jsut let peopel do whatever they want as long as they're happy, and not hurting themselves, or others.

[@hidden546]

I used to believe in Bible prophecy so much until I realized it depended on which interpretation I went with. I didn’t like the mainstream perspective on the prophecies in Daniel so I started following the newer ones. Than I realized after each time nothing came to pass, the prophecies were so vague that they could be applied to anything. It’s like saying In a long period of time since this word goes out, there will be many kings that arise. They will go to war with the other leaders and many will fall. During that time many will doubt. It will also come to pass after these events that many will seek the truth but it will flee from them. Nations will rise and others will fall. A child will be born in the remote parts and another shall find peace. Not too long after this, a terrible storm will fall upon a distant people. Many will wonder what these words mean but as the time approaches greater understanding will be gained. Boom. Let’s see what cult I start in the future.

[@mwperk02]

Lets be honest here. The Simpsons have done a hell of a lot better job of predicting the future than anything in the bible.

[@tulip811]

They don't predict, they show the plans

[@lazy747unitedairlines]

@@tulip811 nah they just throw jokes till something sticks

[@Nocturnalux]

Not on the same level but Gundam 00 predicted a black American president, and Rage Against the Machine’s video for Sleep Now in the Fire had a guy with “Trump for president 2000” poster. Akira predicted Tokyo would host the Olympic Games in 2020, and it was the official host although it did not take place that year because of COVID. And Madoka was slotted to air an episode full of destruction, floods and the like, on the day- or the next one- of March 11, 2011, when the massive earthquake and tsunami happened (which postponed the airing of that particular episode).

[@tulip811]

They don't predict it, the world leaders are in a cult, that's it

[@nathanjohnson9715]

it boggles my mind that some people still think the tower of babbel is a story that actually happened. God was pissed because they were building a tower that was too big... yet, he's cool with us going to space... hmmm.

[@vaiyt]

How big was that tower? Unless the babel people had rebar and cranes, they ain't building anything like the burj khalifa. Which by the last time I checked is still up.

[@nathanjohnson9715]

@@vaiyt right!?!

[@erraticonteuse]

Right? Like, the Louise Weiss building is 20 stories tall. I've lived in apartment building with more floors.