The REAL Story of the Mormon Church

[@johnnyharris]

Why I left the Mormon Church kzbin.info/www/bejne/l4WwpJmFmK2cgMk

[@milkgrapes6420]

The end of the original upload was cut abruptly. Fixed now.

[@AnthonyAmbriz]

Johnny would love to have you on the Mormon Stories podcast! We've reached out before, but haven't heard back.

[@samiribnsaif]

I volunteer to help create a "What Muslims really believe?" video :)

[@KappazObloquy]

"caught my eye in the order of Minji, Kang, Goyang, and Hyein. Finally, Hani became a fan of South Korean girl Beom Ok-heun. Hani, fighting~~" You edited this out but it got me really curious. What do you mean by these? It almost sounds like newjeans' member name

[@Wooplot]

PLEASE COME TO BRAZIL

[@cactuscooler4003]

Ex-Mormon here (I was actually roommates with Johnny's little brother while we attended BYU together as freshman)... The only point that I'd contest in this recounting is Joseph's level of education. While it's true that he had very little "formal" education, his father was a school teacher and his older brother attended Dartmouth. The family was very much focused on education and Joseph certainly was more educated than the LDS church states. They try to use his lack of a formal education as evidence that he couldn't have made up the Book of Mormon from scratch. (Even though, like you said, a lot of the book is copied from the Bible or other similar books of the time.)

[@josephvanas6352]

Lack of education is also not lack of intelligence. There are many people that lack education that are exceptionally good at something. Especially when it comes to creative endeavors. Joseph did obviously have some background knowledge in judeo christian theology though as he did make the Book of Mormon mesh with the Bible.

[@AndorranStairway]

@@josephvanas6352 Knowledge of theology not withstanding, there is far too much insanity with the doctrine for any of that to matter.

[@gidd]

​@@elismart13"He didn't confirm they exist" summed up religion right there

[@TheLastDispensation]

Everything being discussed in this thread has been the very argument through the last 190 years. most of it conjecture. Interesting isn't it. It shouldn't make anyone mad or try to prove it wrong, it should be looked at like any other phenomena or unexplained artifacts we marvel at today.

[@DiffQ_Bro]

His older brother didn't attend Darthmouth. He attended a "boarding school," named Moody that was founded by the same founder as Dartmouth. Freaking grammar school.

[@Rudy-h7g]

I feel like I've been waiting for Johnny to tell this story for years

[@Ok-lu8gx]

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[@edwardst10]

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[@amoghus]

ok

[@brendanmoran57]

Ok

[@ThorGodofThunder420]

It's funny because I was actually having a conversation with my father about this recently, and I think this would be the best way for him to hear the story Edit: Ok

[@mimandshaindy4906]

Thank you so much for this Johnny. It was exceptional and deeply personal. Having grown up in a very religious Jewish household, I relate deeply to the idea of the comfort of the stories, rituals, and community. I also relate to the sadness felt in losing that comfort. You have moved mountains with your journalism and personal reporting. For that I thank you!

[@davidb007..]

Grew up Orthodox too, saddest thing is that I’ve lost the comfort and kept the fear…worst of both worlds I guess

[@johnnyharris]

wow thank you!!

[@William_Snowfox.01]

You shouldn’t abandon God because of negative experiences. I’m not Mormon and don’t care about manmade denominations. I just love Jesus from The Holy Bible.

[@PhyreReighn]

Anyone leaving a CULTture is COURAGEOUS !! CONGRATULATIONS

[@christianpond-fu5jy]

I'm just like you, Johnny. Born in the covenant. Pioneer ancestry. Spanish speaking mission. My dad is a patriarch. I played tennis with Neal A Maxwell and Jeffrey R Holland. I called them Neal and Jeff. Weird. Now I'm 52 and only recently have seen through my faith to find reality. Your video has helped me to grieve that loss. So I thank you for it and commend you on the quality and veracity of it. As you know it's hard to lose faith, even though it is a reflex toward truth. I still love the church, though I know what it is. Your presentation is truthful, tactful and thoughtful. Rock on!

[@PhyreReighn]

I embraced the "Awakening" 10 yrs ago. Like the weight of the world lifted ! Namaste ~

[@mimiritaferron]

Wow

[@karenayala9075]

Que bueno que dejarás la iglesia mormona. Realmente adoran un falso Jesús. Y No es por una iglesia, o cualquiera de tus obras o por tu obediencia que puedes ser salvo, es por solo gracia, es un regalo de Dios, no es algo que te ganas, es solo por lo que ya gano y pago Cristo. “Vengan a mí los que están cargados y cansados, mi yugo es fácil y ligera mi carga” Mateo 11:28-30 el verdadero Jesús quita tu carga, no es por tus esfuerzos, no es por lo que tú pudieras hacer, es por lo que Él hizo. Tú sabes que si hay un Dios pero claramente no es el que se inventaron los mormones, confía en el verdadero Jesús quien obedeció perfectamente por ti, descansa en lo que Él ya hizo. búscalo en oración y en la biblia y conocerás el verdadero poder del Dios vivo y verdadero. Un Dios que te hace libre, que hizo lo que tú eres incapaz de hacer por mas disciplina, el verdadero amor de Dios🙏

[@frostman9661]

As an ex-mormon, I really appreciate the perfect tone you held the entire video. Excellent balance of blatant facts, while avoiding the pitfall of mockery. I felt your closing message. There absolutely is a level of loss having left. As much as I feel frustrated and sometimes angry with my past experiences, I can't help but find myself missing it on occasion. Paradox indeed.

[@johnbrion4565]

What church do you go to now?

[@frostman9661]

@@johnbrion4565 I do not attend any church.

[@anival9576]

I think I can understand it even though I'm not an ex-Mormon. It must be so wonderful to believe that you've got the key that unlocks all kinds of mysteries, that your community has it all figured out. As a Christian, sometimes I feel like the Bible isn't enough. It has everything we need for life, but not always everything we want. There's uncertainty there that is kind of uncomfortable, especially in regard to the future and the last days. I've noticed that a lot of sci-fi and fantasy authors are Mormons. Writing such stories must be a gift of the movement--Smith's legacy to his people. 😁

[@johnbrion4565]

@@frostman9661 just because Mormonism isn’t true doesn’t mean Christianity isn’t true. Why don’t you keep searching?

[@johnbrion4565]

@BiggaNigga69 it’s not a waste. It’s called the journey through life seeking truth. Mistakes are made along the way but that’s how we learn and discover and grow.

[@JonahKaylor]

I am an Amazon delivery driver and three days ago, I delivered a package to a house and this really nice woman asked if I needed anything. I asked for water and she invited me inside. I usually would never go inside, but she was seemed so genuine! So I decided to follow her inside and there was a party happening. She told me I could grab food and everyone in there was so excited to see me. She even announced my name and everybody cheered. I was kind of shocked but I grabbed a plate of food and wanted and started my way out the door and right before I left she stopped me and handed me “The Book of Mormon” she wrote my name in it and everything and told me to read it. I’m not religious at all but I was feeling kind of strange about the whole thing. It’s super crazy this video came out. I watched the whole thing and I’m just amazed. It’s just weird timing.

[@bobhope4288]

That sounds a lot like "Love bombing", a common tactic in many religions.

[@slaphappysmokey1]

@@bobhope4288 Love bombing? That's a thing? Sounds rather scary!

[@markcavandish1295]

That’s a great story. No Love Bombing, that’s how they really are to everyone. Very normal behavior.

[@whabaskeythethird]

Read and pray about The Book of Mormon. God is probably trying to tell you something

[@nello1591]

​@markcavandish1295 it's not normal. Mormons commonly shower people with attention in an attempt to make them feel welcome, but what they really want is to convert, not just to have a new friend. It's a Cult/religion tactic.

[@jordanmcmiller33]

Beautiful. Ex member , former missionary myself. I love your ending message. It’s amazing how even when we recognize the absurdity of our former beliefs we still feel guilt for not believing. I often find it hard to post on social media in fear I’m letting my former converts, mission companions, and leaders down because I’ve chosen to walk away. Leaving the church has brought me relief from the pressures of perfection. But leaving the church has also loss me a lot of the community that is so hard to find elsewhere. For the best but hard nonetheless.

[@dawit9496]

I feel your emotions as I’m also a former religious person. Tho I’m actually finding it very easy to feel included in any community Im interested in. If not, just create the community you want to see. You are not alone and not different than Joseph or any Joe out there😂

[@ryanwhite444]

I have the reverse story.. I was lost in the world, in pain and was not living my best life. I found Jesus in my Christian Faith and everything has changed. My life is blessed for that change. I never want to walk back.

[@wellsaidgoodheadfred9843]

If you get bored Jordan, you should study Mormon history. It's mind-blowing disturbing fact after mind-blowing disturbing fact over and over again. Both Brigham Young and Joseph Smith stole married women from their husbands, committed nonstop adultery, married extremely young children. Joseph Smith started out his religion trinitarian but then changed it once his theology that one could become a God came into his mind. There's so many weird facts about this religion.

[@Trancymind]

Don't feel alone for leaving the LDS church, there are people like me who was a former catholic member. I have nothing against the christian church but it is the lies and corruption within the church that made me leave. I know I'm not perfect, I'll never be and I know for sure i'll be ok when my moment comes. At least I admit I made mistakes and sinned and will be mentally ready when my soul will be cleansed. My purpose is to learn and grow in order to develop my spirit.

[@kelleynrothaermel2311]

Then you never really understood the beauty of the church and the atonement because it isn't about being perfect. No one is perfect. Only one person in this life was and that was Jesus. That is why he gave us repentance. He knew we would make mistakes. We all do every day. In fact, if you would come to church you wouldn't hear the words perfect being used across the pulpit. The commandments and principles of the gospel are just a road map to help us get closer to the heavenly father. Where I am on that map may be different from where you are or my fellow brother and sisters. Doesn't make us better than anyone else, but we as you know from the scriptures we learn line up line precept upon precept. And you are right, no other church has such a wonderful community. When my dad died, no one from his church contacted me to say that they were sorry he passed. They didn't bring me dinner or offer to help with the aftermath of his passing. He had attended that church his whole life. When he needed help prior to his death no one reached out to ask him if they could help him, but they were sure happy to take his money each Sunday. The minute my father passed, a sister from church sent over her daughter to babysit my children so I could go to the hospital. The next day someone brought me a meal. Others reached out in the following weeks and months. You don't need to feel guilty for leaving. If you weren't happy then so be it. You have your free agency. Heavenly Father isn't going to force you to choose him or maybe you are choosing him in a way that feels best to you.

[@davidneal3684]

I’m one of those guys that grew up in “The Church”. Now I’m having a glass of wine and watching this. Great way to grow up, lots of love in my family at least… I left in the 90s after learning all the things they don’t teach in Sunday school. I figured it out from books, before the internet. I feel OG 😂

[@nestorlozada8441]

WHY IN THE LOVE OF GOD PEOPLE BELEIVE THIS IS JUST NUTS

[@jenniwood7332]

I grew up Mormon, raised by a Chirch Historian and a devout believer. Its kind of unreal how all the facts in this video are known and taught in the church to some degree or another, but take on such a different light when viewed analytically vs with the veneer of spirituality. I stopped believing in the church as a teen, and it took years to get over the guilt and conditioning from the 'teachings'. I can tell Johnny is still working through some of that, and im glad he's finding catharsis through these videos.

[@benjabunsss]

Same!

[@johnnyharris]

thank you for the comment. youre totally right this is catharsis for me and I hope it can be for others working through it. i was in way too deep before i left for this to be a quick process.

[@corynardin]

I have had a similar transformation with my Christian beliefs. I don’t feel particularly negative towards the church or religion, with obvious individual exceptions. I just don’t believe it is true in any sense. I still find goodness in many of the principals, kindness, charity, selflessness.

[@almVancouver]

This is a wonderful and insightful comment.

[@internet_userr]

It helps if you weren't born into religiousness

[@philipwensel]

Thanks Johnny. Echoing a lot of the comments here. I spent 34 good years in the church that I don't regret.. but I'm so much happier. Your comments really resonated with me. Be well !

[@Jonathan-tw4xm]

Mormon?

[@johnnyharris]

Thank you for the generous support!!

[@ohdeniseluciani]

Can't believe I got to watch this for free? Such high quality visuals and great storytelling

[@joshuataylor3550]

The future will have no money

[@victoriatyson-kl2sw]

i love how he tell the story

[@HeyShimolee]

Forreallll

[@trestres236]

You didn't watch it for free. Your data was collected and sold for profit lol

[@Faroesx]

@@trestres236 what? Google already has and knows everything about me. They didn’t get anything else off of me from watching this 😂

[@nathantagg2691]

I am an active, happy Latter Day Saint and I do appreciate this video. I'm glad you came to your own conclusions about the church and have respect for your views. I've always made a point of making sure I knew everything I could about the church and its history. I'm aware of all the criticisms leveled at the church but I also know that its impossible to have meaningful debates over these topics in youtube comments, so all I can really say here is I hope you learned and grew from your experience as a member and I hope you can look back with fondness and maybe some appreciation for your time as a member. I hope nobody shunned you or resents you for your decision, and that you continue to feel welcome in our communities.

[@AdamBlack-h9r]

You may want to educate yourself on what happened to the previous church historian and why. It might shake your testament a little, but I'm sure that will wear off. It's just easier to go along with the 'collective pretending', I get it!

[@nathantagg2691]

@@AdamBlack-h9r I say this with every ounce of respect and seriousness. I am completely aware. Also, just because someone comes to different conclusions than you doesn't mean they are pretending or stupid or ignorant or something. But if labeling everyone who disagrees with you as fake helps stroke your ego and validates your opinion, I get it!

[@rickytambow9950]

lol you know your wrong.

[@AdamBlack-h9r]

@@nathantagg2691 I was raised in the church. I am very familiar with what goes on. Did you ever hear the one about how do you keep a Mormon from drinking all your beer, if you invite him fishing? The answer is to invite two Mormons fishing. In all seriousness, I have discovered that there are two types of TBM. The ones that are just going along with the whack-a-doodle stuff cuz it's easier that way and then there's the ones that are just plain crazy. I grew up in a small town and the Priesthood members thought nobody saw what they did after they left Church on Sunday. The last straw for me though, was when the Church lawyers showed up from Salt Lake to help the Bishopric bury the child SA allegations made by multiple families in the ward. The Church successfully kept it quiet by convincing the families that they were helping to destroy the Church, if they call the authorities. I say this with all the respect I can muster. Does that sound like a Godly organization to you? Feel free to disagree with me. I can handle it.

[@BIGNORM1031]

You believe is a cult right

[@TheFakeGooberGoblin]

I have bipolar schizophrenia and this story scarily mirrors my struggle with psychosis. I was actively resisting my christian parents attempts to get me into religion and out of nowhere one day i become super religious, start hearing god and having intricate dreams where i feel like the fabric of the universe and it’s truths are being revealed, i felt manically to compelled to write what i saw as i worsened in my obsessive religious spiral and would stay up entire nights writing. I was convinced I was one of Gods chosen profets and would spam my social media with schizo posts of my writing and would tell anyone who would listen in person my delusions. I literally acted just like this dude as someone with no religious knowledge or interests for months on end and it makes me wonder if maybe he just had schizophrenia? If i didn’t have people surrounding me who recognized i was ill and helped me get treated and instead convinced me i was right and to dive deeper into my spirals I really don’t think I would have ever recovered… I am a religious person now, but the things i believed in psychosis i would never believe in a million years out of it so I know it wasn’t God talking to me but my own personal delusions… part of this feels like a sad story about a poor man in psychosis who was unfortunate enough to be born at a time when everyone would rather agree with his delusion than question his health due to a lack of education on psychology.

[@t.j._edits9669]

I had a similar experience in a Mormon context, as someone who has Bi-Polar/OCD. I felt that shame and guilt for not following those intense feelings as well.

[@HeidiThompson7]

Thank you for sharing your experience. I can't imagine what that must have felt like. I wonder why after resisting religion your brain suddenly threw you into the position of prophet. I would think that would be more common among people who already have some strongly held religious beliefs but hey the human brain is an enigma.

[@Runcandle-principality-prince]

Lmao😂🤣

[@ytrew9717]

super interesting, though you should now go further by exploring the next step: evolutionary psycho, and coevolution, is key to understand human nature, and thus the world

[@TheFakeGooberGoblin]

@@HeidiThompson7 I don’t know if you’ve heard of something called i believe “Jerusalem syndrome” but people who are simply tourists in Jerusalem with no religious history have suddenly donned cloaks and given sermons from atop boxes as self proclaimed profets or reincarnations of God in town squares the human mind is wild… My theory for why me as a non religious person is bipolar has a pattern of behavior called “loops” where someone feels strongly compelled and obsessively act or think a certain way on repeat in a way that basically inhibits them mentally from being able to want to focus on anything but their spiral and this symptom typically arises from overstimulation or stress. I imagine my younger mind along with all the stresses of being pushed hard to become a church goer pushed me into an obsessive spiral over if God was real so I could finally make a choice on if I should believe or not.

[@AtlasPro1]

I live in upstate NY, and I pass a small historical road sign all the time that tells how Joseph Smith once came through. I'll have to read it in full next time I pass it!

[@elismart13]

Hey 😎 AtlasPro fellow viewer here, keep up the growth work :D

[@ajpyyz]

Hopefully someday someone will tear it down

[@stevelapointe180]

Love your channel!

[@greencloud9092]

Woah

[@greencloud9092]

@ajpyyz why?

[@swish84]

I cannot imagine how incredibly cathartic and healing this must be for you, Johnny. Genuinely happy for you and respect you for doing it.

[@cyberpaw]

the comment section is possibly all bound to Johnny on a new planet

[@Dan_Gleebalz]

Not to mention lucrative.

[@ButterflyHummingbird]

I joined the Church when I was 17 (1977) and I was very strong for about the first 15 years. But was I really strong or just ignorant because I chose to listen to only the Church’s myopic view? But beginning in the early 90’s the cracks began to show when I went back to Utah after a stint in the U.S. Navy. Having been in the military onboard two ships, my eyes were now open in a way they could never be closed again. But I have no regrets for the path I have followed, including my Mormon years. There were valuable things I learned in the Church. Now that I know what I do, I have only to write my letter of resignation. I am no longer a religious person, as far as an organization is concerned; I am however very spiritual and, thanks to one area I was heavily into in my early years in the Church, genealogy, I am doing ancestral work on a much deeper level…..and loving the possibilities.

[@hbendzulla8213]

Oh my Gosh. I’m 85, have been Mormon for 73 years before I gave up, by finding out what MORMONISM is and was all about. Johnny Sir, your factual story telling is absolutely the best. I just love it.

[@shreihals9314]

Damn, what was it like when u realised that something u lived with for pretty much ur entire life was actually a lie? (Atleast a lie in ur opinion)

[@Luciphell]

@@shreihals9314 Having faith isn't about what is or is not true. It's the basis of all religions.

[@zachbarnes2538]

@@shreihals9314@luciphell faith crisis’ are difficult journeys to take and millions of people are disconnecting from their high demand religions. It forces one to completely reevaluate their core belief structure and what their basis for morals is. It’s very challenging and can take many years to work through. It can end with broken marriages, torn families, and scarred relationships but can also be a massive weight off one’s chest, freeing them from what they see as uninformed consent.

[@Jkh808]

@@shreihals9314”a lie in your opinion”… religions being a lie is a fact not an opinion

[@AndorranStairway]

This is not something that I hear very often at all. Religious people who reach their 70s tend to stay that way for the rest of their life. I wonder what was the final nail in the coffin that led you to lose your religious beliefs after so long.

[@helloheavenleigh278]

The ending as a fellow ex Mormon brought a tear to my eye. I very much relate to being sad to not believe anymore. My belief was so strong…and to “know” exactly what is going to happen after this life and to have all the answers is so very comforting. It made life so simple…not easy, but very simple. Sometimes I do wish I could go back and choose the blue pill and not look deeper. However, having the truth, even the very inconvenient and hard truth that we do not have all the answers has given my life a deeper purpose perhaps.

[@aworldincolor1331]

@@Truth71415 Please do not tell someone how to feel after leaving their religion or offer an alternative one. It is not as empathetic as you think it is. I left Christianity and I feel the same as OP. I deeply miss the ritual and I miss 'knowing' what I thought was truth. But few leave on good terms. I certainly didn't. I realized the love I was told was for humanity was nothing more than rebranded hate and self-righteousness. So when someone expresses their pain over leaving their religion, offering that you have all the answers only pours salt in that wound because it shows you didn't hear them. You only heard the echo of what you wanted to hear.

[@jros9312]

@@aworldincolor1331calm down and stop projecting. Instead go deal with your hurt.

[@finicum11]

So true. I'm going through losing that faith now. So much of LDS theology truly is beautiful, as are so many of its members. Unfortunately the historical facts make it messy.

[@jonbaker476]

The blissful ignorance of feeling like you know all the answers truly does simiplify certain things, but it also comes with its own can of worms. I've experienced so much stress, perfectionism, criticism, shame, and straight up abuse in the church to last me a lifetime. My mission experience caused me to develop all sorts of strange mental health problems that have taken nearly a decade to resolve Honestly, leaving mormonism is very akin to Adam and Eve leaving the garden. In the garden they were safe and lived simple lives. However, they never really "knew" anything and never got to decide things for themselves. Leaving the garden is hard, but it also opens up a world of possibilities. And on top of that, in the story of Adam and Eve, it shows that God, the authority figure, was in fact a liar and simply wanted them to stay simpleminded and subservient

[@Dynamite_15]

@@Truth71415 I am LDS and I just want to set things straight since I find your comment misleading. Nowhere in our teaching does it say that Joseph Smith is our one and only savior, and we wouldn’t have salvation without him, he did restore the church and gave us what we have today, but he is not the one who died on the cross for our sins. A lot of what our teachings are based on are around Christ being our savior and giving his life so we can be saved. The Bible is one of the four main scriptures that we study and know to be true. Joseph Smith was our first Latter Day Prophet, but he was not our one and only savior, our savior and messiah will always be Jesus Christ who died for our sins.

[@Salvino110]

Excellent presentation, Johnny. I was a bishop in the church for a few years but no longer attend. It took me thirty years to 're-wire' my brain, and now I find myself in a safer and happier place. I found your video to be a very effective message, indeed. Well done.

[@lalzgarra9493]

you are happier , why¿¿¿¿

[@Salvino110]

@lalzgarra9493 Are you challenging my choices, or wishing to know my truth?

[@abrahamd3842]

@@Salvino110I’d like to know if you are ok with sharing

[@Salvino110]

@@abrahamd3842 If it helps others, then yes, I would be. Happy to.

[@grannygoes7882]

@@lalzgarra9493 Why do you think? He's no longer part of a cult. I've never been mormon but am surrounded by them and the ones I know would rather be anything other than mormon but the pressure from family and the other members keeps them in.

[@debbiepalmer8828]

I never actually joined the church but attended with my three year old daughter and her father in 1992/95 . We didn’t join as he didn’t want to get married.the thing that gets me is the prayer that the elders ask you to do to see if the Book of Mormon is true.this stuck with me as the first time I prayed, nothing happened but the second time I really wanted the answers and it was profound, I felt so much love that I felt I was floating towards the ceiling of my bedroom. I still haven’t joined but this will always stay with me. Have I been deceived? I still have my Book of Mormon and faith in Jesus Christ

[@ammaheinon]

Simple. Read the last verses of the bible. Why follow ANY other book than the bible?

[@Chabochi]

I had a similar experience as I read the Book of Mormon. Even though I no longer attend the LDS church or any other Church, I can't ever deny that spiritual experience.

[@marydavison4886]

I had the feeling. I think i misinterpreted it. I think the church was good for me at that time. I cant explainthe feeling but i am sure it is not god telling you its true.

[@AlexandriaNano-pf2ll]

The devil can definitely create ‘miracles too’ … or the illusion of them

[@itsmakaylasshardeman2337]

I would say stick to the holy Bible the book of Mormon has many contradictions, it goes against what God is actually saying . trust me Gods word is the holy Bible , not some man made book that came years after that

[@dth10101]

Was a devout Mormon for 20 years, born in the church. 3 hour church service every Sunday, activities almost every week, church before high school. Was a missionary myself. Stopped going around the age of 22 or so. It was quite a shock when I started to realize everything was a lie. The people I knew through church are in general, genuinely nice people who do tremendous charity and good works. Leaving a faith that literally structured every day of my life for 2 decades was painful. I miss my time as a believer. I do. I had a purpose. I had a mission. I had an extended family. 10 years later and I still miss those aspects but I feel so much better knowing I'm not living a lie. Great video. It was trippy watching movie clips from movies I'd watch every Sunday when I was a kid haha

[@andrewluther7150]

read the real bible and follow Jesus and His teachings, they are perfect, no church will ever be perfect but He will, so put your identity in Him alone, not a church or denomination or religion.

[@jamespeterson101]

How is it a lie??!

[@RandyPeterson17]

@@andrewluther7150 This is an incredibly damaging comment. To assert your religion or god above another is the exact reason prophets like Joseph Smith and the Mormon religion even come into existence.

[@RandyPeterson17]

@@jamespeterson101 Thats a question that no one will be able to answer for you bud. The only person capable (or not) of giving you that answer is yourself.

[@jamespeterson101]

@@RandyPeterson17 So let's say I believe that it's true. Now there's this whole video telling me it's a lie, and then you come in telling me that no one can tell me. Which is it?

[@lukedeardoff3351]

The fact that he's come forward to share his story is amazing. The fact he leave's his comments turned on is even more inspiring. I really respect this dude and what he's doing.

[@paulbrungardt9823]

Smith was in jail on charges of arson of a newspaper press. The paper had published detail of Joe Smith's sexual conquests with the wives & young daughters of his male followers. Smith had a gun smuggled into the jailhouse. When the husbands/fathers of Smith's bed-mates read about this, they stormed the jail--Swift justice.

[@NuanceOverDogma]

funny how Johnny Harris joined the leftist cult. makes sense

[@rickhuntling7338]

@lukedeardoff3351 yea, LDS channels edit the comments because they hate the truth. JW and SDA also edit the comments, its called control and deception. No truth in cults.

[@AndrewMarkle]

I can’t imagine how difficult this was for you. As an ex-Mo, and not by choice, but by excommunication, I resonated with the paradox of when you found comfort in something you no longer find yourself believing in. Thank you for sharing.

[@frankamaya5796]

What did you do to get booted?

[@CamaroJohnson-rw2kp]

There are many Pastors doing excomunication for living and dead lds. Breaking them free lucifers grasp

[@Lazerbadger2]

Wow the best source for accurate information about the church. Someone who broke so many rules they got kicked out.

[@AndrewMarkle]

@@Lazerbadger2 Your ignorance is nearly absurd. I was “kicked out” because of my sexuality, not because I “broke so many rules”. I didn’t break any, I just refused to live my life as a lie. Thanks for responding with so much vigor though.

[@Lazerbadger2]

You were not kicked out due to your sexuality, you were kicked out because you refused to follow Church standards. Just as any other person would have. I'm sorry if that was hard for you but the rules are the rules and it doesn't make you less of a person because you didn't want to follow them. @@AndrewMarkle

[@ZacStalnaker]

Active LDS here: Exceptionally well told. Of course we’ve reached different conclusions, but you masterfully simplified so much history into such a short video and shared it in such a way that your bias was almost unnoticeable. Great work.

[@2xfrfr]

How’s the LDS life man ?

[@quintonneal2881]

I’m an ex Mormon and just showed this to my dad who is still involved in the church. He really liked it. Him and I both like that you don’t just crap on lds beliefs, but also don’t sugar coat them. I think this series could be your magnum opus. Really great job

[@jeffs4483]

Is he excited to get his own Planet?

[@quintonneal2881]

@@jeffs4483 idk. He’s never brought that stuff up. Tbh I think he’s mainly just involved because he likes the family values the church teaches.

[@RichardHolmes-ll8ii]

Really great job?

[@quintonneal2881]

@@RichardHolmes-ll8ii you don’t think it was a great video?

[@RichardHolmes-ll8ii]

@@quintonneal2881 Why would I? The 2 response videos to this above video from Johhny clearly confirm its dishonest reporting.

[@eeliisaa0]

As a European watching this, the American centric view of the religion is what really stands out. Thank you for the great video, it was super interesting!

[@krono5el]

all those "Americans" are also european in origin and non are Native to the Americas which is totally ironic.

[@Aus200]

​@@krono5elneither are the native americans. They immigrated from Asia at the end of the Ice Age.

[@devonkennedy1386]

@@Aus200 neither are the Europeans or originally they all came from Africa

[@fZM0OY]

Yah it’s wild how religions tend to center the area in which the inventors take place lol

[@fZM0OY]

@@Aus200and this EVERYONE is African because we call came from there. Except we didn’t but that’s a bad take since we can genetically prove it’s incorrect

[@brendanoconnor9196]

Ex Mormon branch president here, I did a great deal of research on the churches history before I left the church. I realised that the members didn't want to know the truth, they just felt comfortable living in their own false reality. A mission president told me "I am happy where I am". They don't want the truth, often.

[@VictorKing144]

I’d rather be controlled by a religion and get a community and some morals out of it rather than be controlled by a soulless capitalist society who’s only out to exploit my labor and gives me nothing but a barely liveable stipend in return

[@brianhayes7108]

Is it better to be happy or right?

[@tomisaacson2762]

Congrats on escaping!

[@davidgafo]

It's either the red pill or the blue pill. Most mormons actively choose the blue pill.

[@knuklz212]

proof of your position please

[@hazemsy2797]

As an Ex-Muslim, the story of Joseph Smith is very similiar to the story of Mohamad and how he came up with his cult.

[@laststand6420]

There was a video I saw recently called "A Latter day regift", it was pretty funny how it depicted Mormonism and Islam as basically the same thing dressed up differently.

[@tristan7844]

Yup both insane

[@Gary-fw1ov]

Maybe but they are still around

[@habibiplease-u2t]

I am irreligious but I grow up in a muslim community and went to high school in predominantly mormon schools and graduated from byu, calling either of these religions a "cult" is really a misuse of the word, it implies there is a secret element and maybe even sinister motives, if you want people to take you seriously stop using these emotionally charged terms and just stick to facts, both religions are pretty open about their values and beliefs

[@laststand6420]

@@habibiplease-u2t They really both are though(though I don't know Islam as well). Mormonism especially has some very cultic elements once you get into it more deeply.

[@haveagreateverything4763]

Hey Johnny, RM and exmo here. Just wanted to thank you for making this man. It’s so awesome that you put your “testimony” at the end of the video. It’s important to not only think about what we believe but why and how. I cried at the missionary vids too because those times are irreplaceable even if misguided. Love the work you’re doing and keep it up my man ❤

[@johnnyharris]

thank you for sharing

[@aurrea]

I suspect you will never see this, but as a complete stranger with zero religious history in my life, I'm proud of you and thankful I discovered your channel years ago. Bravo sir.

[@johnnyharris]

i saw it. thanks for the kind words.

[@wellthen4128]

​@johnnyharris you're too kind man 🥹

[@Bits-Lab]

So then now when you found it also see and learn what Islam (the final revelation) says. through which the revelation came to end. and may Allah (the God) guide you. because so many things in this video are wrong and the proof of Islam being the truth is the fact that Islam has only one Quran not many versions like other books before that like bible. and they lost the original teachings so much that they now say so many lies.

[@JJimsky]

Right here with you pall

[@Istandby666]

​@@Bits-Lab All religions are wrong.

[@ConsciousConversations]

I studied this in the early 2000’s for a world religions class in Mesa AZ. Lots of books about to read here. I was so shocked to discover the history of this church that so most of the people around me devoted their lives to. And since then.. all of the truth I’ve discovered. So glad Johnny had the inner courage and healing to get free and speak about it.

[@ConsciousConversations]

There are even more crazy historical texts .. I have a couple I’ve found at yard sales, old ones. It’s really eye opening, some of the hard to find historical telling.

[@richardholmes5676]

Get free?

[@ellemnop123]

Hello from Upstate NY! Thank you so much for producing and sharing this film. It's my first encounter with the history and theology of Mormonism, besides having encountered some lovely Mormon families throughout the US over the years. I work as an anthropologist and specialize in Native history. It was incredibly common for early academic Americans, especially those who founded seminaries and worked with Natives, to believe that the Natives had been Jews. This is due to similar theological orientations; described most expertly by James Adair in his History of the American Indians in 1775. (I am an Orthodox Christian, pre-Catholic schism, and our theology teaches that God revealed and continues to reveal Himself to those outside of the Church, see Isaiah 65:1, so there need not be a physical connection between the Jews and Natives for God's law to have been revealed.) To sympathize with the Mormons, it's true that the Natives fashioned copper breastplates as marks of distinction and engraved these plates with narrative figures. This was also well-documented before Joseph Smith's time, so he probably knew to search for Native American copper plates as a form of treasure. To further sympathize with the Mormons, it's entirely possible that the Phoenicians had some contact with Natives in the Great Lakes region, including the Upstate NY region, as evidenced by the occurrence of MtDNA Haplogroup X, which originated in America and appears in one small part of Phoenicia. This does not mean that Jews came to America. Finally, it's really common for polygamy to occur in closed communities with one exceptionally high-status male, so I don't condemn Joseph Smith for this, although of course it's not Christian (as in, Christ specifies one husband and one wife and not to remarry after divorce). So overall, BIG HUGS to my Mormon neighbors -- it's a very American religion. I have no animus against current practitioners. I do believe that if we study history, both Native and Jewish, and follow natural law (including purity laws so that we're not diseased and so that we're not being influenced by electricity the way Joseph Smith may have been with his "seeing stone"), and love one another, we'll come to understand that Christ is real and that the first Christian church does still exist. We can participate in that church and still be American, and appreciate the Mormon church and its colorful story from afar.

[@buckeyeguy82]

Some of my family are LDS & growing up I was told to stay away from that religion. When I got older, I did some research on it & decided it wasn't for me. I enjoy Johnny's storytelling, he tells a story in a way that you feel like you're actually there seeing this unfold. Thanks Johnny for putting together great videos!

[@tannerhnsn88]

Thank you for sharing this. This is random, but I met you while I was a missionary, and you and your family were very kind and welcoming. I've also left the church since then and I've never felt more free. Wishing you luck and happiness on your journey

[@The_Qure]

As an ex-Mormon, who is a descendant of King Follet, one of the bodyguards of Joseph Smith, I can relate so much to the amount of hurt and sadness that releasing yourself from the teachings leaves you with. I still get aches and longings to just go back on a Sunday and listen and be a part of the family of millions of people. You’re absolutely right though, once you stop riding on the elation and comfort the church brings, and look at Joseph Smith as a regular boy, you see he’s just a great storyteller that eventually turned into a pathological liar that couldn’t, or wouldn’t, stop. I’ll always cherish the good times I had with the church, but I know I can’t go back without becoming spiritually blind again.

[@theephraimite]

You need to stop playing the victim; you were never hurt. You calling Joseph Smith a liar makes no sense. How can an uneducated farm boy write the Book of Mormon? He could barely write a single sentence. Make it make sense.

[@mugikuyu9403]

This is the story of so many religious people. I’ve read this same story from Muslims, from catholics, from Hindus, form all sorts and it’s a testament to the power of storytelling and the need that is seated deep within us for meaning and belonging. You’re so right that once you seen behind the curtain it’s not possible to ‘believe’ in the same way again.

[@theephraimite]

@@mugikuyu9403 I looked “behind the curtain” of skeptics and false accusers and found out Joseph Smith did not lie at all, that the heathen are all wrong.

[@alttv8344]

I think there's still a missing pieces of the book of Mormon had been stolen or something right so the story do not end here you have to do is pray. Still communication with heavenly father and Jesus are the greatest answers for your questions

[@anitas5817]

This is a great description of a nonbeliever. I am a nonbeliever. It’s not a political agenda or me being out to get anyone or even really a choice. Who wouldn’t like to belong to a community and believe in an afterlife etc. I can’t believe what I don’t believe and things that there just aren’t any evidence for.

[@kerriheaps5185]

Thank you for sharing this, I took grew up in Utah, served a mission and whole heartedly believed in Joseph Smith. I was in my early 30's when I left, it was scary and a strange feeling. You also have given me information that I was unaware of growing up, so thank you for that.

[@kerriheaps5185]

Sorry that was supposed to read "I too grew up in Utah...."

[@LubricatedHeelys]

Love you Johnny. Love all your videos. I’m an active member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and return missionary. I hope that you continue to follow where your heart and mind lead you in life. I hope other members of the church treat your honest seeking of truth with the respect you deserve on your journey.

[@gmonay32]

As a fellow ex-Mormon, I’m so appreciative of the way you told this story. Also SO BEAUTIFUL. Wow, this video was so visually stunning.

[@chrissessions6108]

Agreed! I do wish that it included some more of the gritty details. It felt a little too close to the church's sanitized narrative. For example, I don't think it's accurate to say that the First Vision included a charge to restore Christ's church with all of the necessary keys and ordinances. That's very much a modern LDS understanding of what the First Vision was about.

[@jhonklan3794]

The ending I think is important. Im ex-religious as well but I cant escape the necessity of religion. Seeing the rise of secular cults (climatism, wokeism, anti-Americanism, anti-racism, ect.) demonstrates something more poisonous will fill the void. We need a common code of ethics that manifests itself through stories and rituals, fulfils a spiritual purpose, and provides a neutral meeting ground for community building. I struggle to find how these needs can be met with something other than religion.

[@jeremysmith9694]

@@jhonklan3794 how can you be ex religious and still feel such a need for religion?

[@oscarwalton4415]

​@@jhonklan3794in what way is believing in climate change a secular cult my guy. Kind of feels like you've replaced one cult like narrative with another one

[@chrissessions6108]

@@jhonklan3794 sounds like you still have a few unhelpful beliefs that you need to reevaluate. "Woke-ism" is a pejorative term for those who prioritize equality and human rights above outdated religious dogma and social structures. Anti-racism is so obviously morally good. Instigating change to lessen our environmental impact is necessary. How are these ideas "poisonous" at all, let alone more harmful than a patriarchal sex-cult founded on invented mythologies that dishonestly hoards billions while many of its own tithe-payers are struggling to get by? You think that without religion we would be morally lost, but religion gave you that idea. It's not true.

[@Not_That_Chris]

Woof. I have a similar story to Johnny. I grew up Mormon and was fully into it. I served as a missionary and attended church run university. I left the church at the end of 2019 and just before the pandemic hit I decided to fully leave it behind. The thought patterns I learned actually did end up me hurting me a bit. Those and a mix of high stress and genetic factors landed me in the hospital for SI. I’ve changed so much since then, but Johnny is so right when he talks about how comforting those beliefs are when you still hold them. It’s scary to leave and it’s hard to breakdown all of the brainwashing. It is absolutely worth it though. I

[@arcdeep]

I am the same as you are. It’s so scary, leaving it all behind. Fundamentally, it feels wrong to leave behind this faith that tells you that if you participate in it, you will literally become a god. In a lot of ways, I wish that I could still be a member, but I know that I can never go back to what I know is morally wrong and historically fake

[@opticalsalt2306]

Tbh that’s what’s upsetting, I understand and respect that people genuinely cope with religion but sometimes it just doesn’t help when that’s all they have to give. (Instead of just some words of advice or love)

[@anjalE30]

truth and many dont understand its hard to see the truth and its hard to de-program the mind b/c the enemy has built a STRONGHOLD U cant see the truth b/c a fortress of deception has been built in your mind over YEARS And the stronghold has been built by your WILLFUL participation in SIN SIN - reciting ancient Egyptian ritual practices - all which stem from the book of the dead - AKA WITCHCRAFT Sin - disobeying the 10 commandments. Satan cannot enter your mind - unless u give him access. and that access is given thru SIN STRONGHOLDS can only be pulled down by the holy spirit! casting down EVERYTHING that exalts itself above the knowledge of GOD Do ppl understand what that means???? - if u believe the knowledge you "know" or been "taught" is ABOVE the knowledge of GOD?????? So many are being deceived and will continue to be deceived and will take the mark. due to simply their ignorance and arrogance

[@Not_That_Chris]

@sambankman-Zelensky it can be great for some people! It’s when scrupulous thinking come in, it can be devastating

[@GospelLessons1]

There are many individual claims in this video that are incorrect and misleading. One of them is about how huge portions of the Book of Mormon are copy/paste jobs from the Bible. Here is a video that has the facts about that. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHeqfqqfesicirM .

[@robertkerr4201]

God gave us brains as well as hearts. “If you believe in things you don’t understand you’re going to suffer” Stevie Wonder Keep seeking the truth, my friend

[@blakejohnson9156]

Thank you for making this! There is a lot of family/social pressure and guilt to keep members in the church and it’s so true that any content that reveals the truth about the church and it’s history gets classified as “anti Mormon literature” to stay away from. I honestly feel so bad for everyone stuck in the cult and it makes me happy to see this on your channel. I really hope this will help open some eyes and give some believing members another perspective. Such a quality video 🙌🏼

[@Hup-x1y]

😮Wat makes Mormon occultists ???

[@alicruz4900]

Yes, Johnny! Tell it! I was also born and raised as a Mormon. I believed in it with all my heart. When I found out I was lied to by the church I was absolutely DEVASTATED, heartbroken and betrayed. If the members are asked to give their lives to the church, they deserve the truth. The FULL truth.

[@nkosanasokhela6]

Hey, if I may, what were you lied to about?

[@werewolfleader4755]

How did you finished watching a 40 Min video in 15 Mins that's my question ??

[@Chimera07]

​@@werewolfleader4755video is re-uploaded

[@Xeonerable]

All religion is a lie meant to control the minds of people so they don't question the world around them.

[@xv02greedo37]

@@werewolfleader4755She Didn’t Watch it that’s why

[@benh9207]

I was a member all of my life and served a mission in Mexico as well. It’s hard not only changing your beliefs, but figuring out how to do that in a way that does not ruin relationships with people you love and cherish. It almost feels like a responsibility to not only believe what you have been taught, but that you will let your loved ones down if you follow any new evidence to the contrary. You are encouraged to remain blissfully ignorant to holes in the stories we were taught. Watching this video now and about to watch the video of you explaining why you left as well. I appreciate you sharing.

[@harryabelpotter9630]

Being a member of the Church and having an eternal abiding testimony from the Holy Spirit are two different separate things. It is possible to change your beliefs, but, it is impossible to change a witness from God that has been seared into your soul. The only expectation that we have as Saints is to seek truth wherever we find it and the greatest truth is when God whispers to your soul ~ or miracles or gifts of the Spirit or healings or etc. What I am saying is that far too many people think that because they "believed" and they "behaved" "faithfullly" that they were TB,T&T, True Blue, Thru & Thru, while instead they were only N.O.M.s ... Name Only Members. Nevertheless ... yes ... when I became a Latter-day Saint, my family's reaction ranged from disowning me to harping about how crazy I was for joining a cult. What I learned in the Church was to ~ just love them ... peace.

[@darkultra]

​@@harryabelpotter9630When faith becomes testimony you know you are deeply misguided. No, I have read Ensigb and Liahina many times and they present no evidence. All the stories are either coincidences or placebo. No proof. Have you seen an amputated limb grow back after a prayer? That would be a miracle.

[@paprgl]

When you say this... I understand how you can end up in this place. Tough. Really tough.

[@FlatEarthMath]

​@harryabelpotter9630 Bless you. 😊 There's a huge difference between believing in Santa Claus and having a testimony. I was an atheist for 30 years before being converted by the holy ghost, and I studied a LOT of "ex-Mormon" stories when I was investigating. So many stories of "my Bishop did me wrong" but not one word about Jesus Christ.

[@Debatelover-d4h]

There's very striking evidence both ways, the chiasmus, for example. I hope I never have to experience what Johnny and you have, and I'm happy you made it through with happiness in the end. I find it's important to entertain thoughts that offer the contrary of what one believes, and because of that, I love diving into the people who leave the church, Tyler Glenn has a very interesting story, however, I find that in these seemingly high walls of questionable things, you must cling to your faith. I never see myself leaving, despite these certain "holes," the reason; because there's way too many, if not more "holes" in the idea of otherwise.

[@robertkrueger1977]

I'm 77 and not a Mormon but did read the book of Mormon at the age of 25 or so. I'm totally amazed at how that story you told has change😮d so much over the years according to the original story concerning Joseph Smith. It's sad how much has changed . The book itself is a book with a lot of knowledge and speaks for itself. With knowledge we can understand the purpose and destiny of the being within us.

[@joshuajohansen6911]

Mormonectomies are painful as hell. When raised into it and told to start 'bearing your testimony' as young as 5 or 6 years old... and Seminary, priesthood meetings, YM-YW events, Family Home Teaching visits etc.etc.etc... you REALLY internalize the message and it is physiologically very painful to disgorge. I am still ostracized from half my family who are still active members, as they cannot agree with my departure. I really appreciate anyone with the fortitude to leave, knowing how hard it was for myself.

[@darlenelane9010]

A religion that teaches members to avoid non-belivers, this includes family members, is not THE religon of Jesus as they profess. To step back and observe while backing away, actually opened my eyes.

[@prolebenz251]

God bless you✝️❤️ you did the right thing. Prqying for ur healing because man thats just terrible

[@krio1267]

I'm Muslim and I have a lot of a Christian friends. True Christians don't disrespect or stay way from people of other religion, and even atheists since religion practices tolerance and morality

[@blakeanderson5360]

I’m sorry that happened to you. I have two sisters who left the church, but we do not judge them for leaving the church because that is NOT what we believe. Christ taught to love. I don’t worship Joseph Smith, I worship God the Father and his son Jesus Christ.

[@TASpale]

are you fr?? how is it painful?? i bet the truth is that you actually dont understand much of the lds theology at all because most people dont.

[@mig6pie]

I had a good friend who was a Mormon we used to play basketball and kept the religion on the side, one day he invited me to read the Book of Mormon and have a discussion about it, we met a week later and my first question was, “where is the archeological evidence” that was the end of our friendship, because he was unable to second guess the story in front of him.

[@BaneTrogdor]

LOL he needs better help for sure :D

[@mig6pie]

@adamkhan4451 I have always questioned the existence of God

[@johnbrion4565]

@adamkhan4451 there’s plenty of evidence for God. Why something at all. How can something come from nothing. The order and laws of nature fine tuned for life. The moral argument. The argument from contingency. Archaeological evidence try explaining the shroud of Turin.

[@googiegress]

@adamkhan4451 That's exactly the point everybody's making. You have no proof of any of the mystical stuff your religion claims. Whoever started your religion could have been standing next to some guy who also started a religion, and neither of them are real no matter how hard they both believed. Anybody can make up a fantasy on the spot. You can't prove that wasn't what happened with any religion. And a ton of religious doctrine that was supposedly the direct word of a deity has been proven false. Religions scramble to shore up their crumbling dogma in the face of better knowledge about reality coming forth every year. This is an important point, because your argument sidestepped this fact: religion depends on dogma, and dogma can be proven or disproven, and it's generally disproven. Religion was humanity's best method of understanding reality for a long time, until science was developed and became a better method. Instead of whatever a shaman wants to say God told him, we have a huge community of experts with generations of knowledge built up, incredible tools, and a system that rewards pointing out flaws in other peoples' work. Religion only keeps people in the dark. Finally, I direct you to the wikipedia page for philosophical razors, which eviscerate your position. The only thing a religious person has, today, is defiance in the face of all else. This is a common reason why parents demand to home-school their kids, because they don't want them learning things without viewing them all through the lens of their religion, and some ways of thinking are illuminating enough to cause rejection of religion if exposed to them.

[@metramaks]

​@@johnbrion4565It's a common logical fallacy. It's not the laws of the universe tuned for life, but life became like this adapting to these laws.

[@andrewknowlton2310]

As a Mormon who has deep deep doubts and wondering if it’s worth the family alienation and loss of hope to leave the church as u described the “comfort” this was a really helpful video that didn’t really teach anything I didn’t know but I’m glad that you made it so genuine. I still don’t know if I should leave or not

[@ozarks_onna]

You know. It's just difficult.

[@Eric-nx8ze]

From what I’ve heard and read, they make it very difficult to leave. Mormons are family oriented, as Johnny mentions in this video. In another video he posted about him leaving the church, he mentions how you can’t go to heaven with your family if you’re not a part of the church. Naturally, if you’re a Mormon and one of your family members wants to leave, you will try and keep them from leaving in fear of them not being with you in heaven.

[@troublebot]

Chances are a lot of others in your circles are having the same doubts. You being true to yourself and leaving might be the inspiration others need to be true to themselves too. My wife went through this when she was younger, and yes she did lose contact with a lot of her family when she did. But slowly and surely, her little cousins started leaving when they got older, and then her uncles and aunts started leaving, and now with many of them she has a stronger, more honest bond with them than she ever did before. In the mean-time she found her own friends and built her own family, and now she has more than she ever expected she would when she left.

[@clearstonewindows]

You really can't take positive or negative biases into your head. Because you and I both know that's not going to get you where you need to go. Also this may be anecdotal, But I've never seen someone's live that after 10 years of leaving the church I would want to trade places with. And I've known many. Good luck and God bless.

[@josephb.1425]

As a former Mormon, you should go. If your family cares about you, they will not shun you. If your friends in the church are your real friends, they will not shun you.

[@djjrifau]

As a Catholic and roots in RochesterNY, I knew a decent amount about LDS, but this video helped me understand more. Great job Johnny 🫡

[@milansvancara]

it should have helped you to understand more about Christianity as well...

[@Aria-cd6dq]

The fact that we get free documentaries on KZbin by Johnny Harris is truly a gift 👏👏👏 May I also remind you the fact that Mormons treat and held the same prejudices toward Native Americans shared by other European Americans.. For instance, our Native American population in our motherland, the Continent of America before the European Colonizers arrived, was around 15 millions, while the European population in their motherland, the Continent of Europe was around 25 millions. Today, Native American population is 15 million, while the European population, in the Continents of America + Europe, is a staggering TWO BILLION! A shocking sad truth. 😔 In my humble opinion, it's about time to decolonize the Colonized lands, and return it to rightful owners Native American people. Notorious global cardinal crimes the Christian West has committed, and benefited a great deals, such as Slavery & Colonialism had long been over, why on earth is notorious Colonization still lingering on, may I ask? 😔🤷🤷

[@misterlianghui]

Slavery, Colonialism and Colonization are all evil things done and benefited by evildoers.

[@FirestormX9]

@@LsServereverything is permitted (i think this was in assassin's creed lol)

[@mothman8300]

​@@FirestormX9That is indeed the source. Or at least where I hear it most commonly.

[@Faroesx]

@@LsServer oh no Google has one more data point out of the billions that they already have on me. What a big cost.

[@JohatsuSha]

If it is free, you are a product.

[@sallyostling]

Joseph broke so many laws and was consistently in debt. He even opened his own bank, backed by "gold"... mostly empty boxes with a bar or two for appearances. He started his polygamist venture well before his actual wife knew. To sell it to her he had a vision of an angel with a burning sword that would strike Emma down if she didn't accept the principle. Real straight up guy 😮.

[@scottanno8861]

I think the bank was only backed by land speculation....and we all know how well that works since 2008 😅

[@pilot_bruh576]

A good tip when you dont trust preaching is that if it isnt the Gospel then you should simply not get into it well if it goes against the word, gospel and the law

[@TheIRSneedsme]

Yeah and trump won the election these are both factual statements 👍

[@zacdavis8234]

All lies. Do some more research and find out the real truth

[@butwhytho4858]

@@zacdavis8234yea. Joseph was definitely a real liar and I’m glad this generation will probably be the one to dismantle the brainwashing of obvious lies in leaders and churches.

[@lynnchoi]

As one of the few korean american members in my ward and raised in the church my entire life, this video and his previous “Why I Left the Mormon Church” really resonates with me. I think something that was not mentioned by Johnny, and isn’t touched on in a lot of faithful and exmormon circles, is the experience of being part of a majority white community as a person of color. As my parents were converts, I felt pressure to have to be even better and more spiritually in tune with the teachings. I ignored much of the racism and discrimination I felt from other members because I felt that I had to be as Christlike as I could. I realized now after having left the church that there were many instances of racial micro aggressions towards me and trying to be good member, I would try to ignore them and try to be understanding. I also served a full time mission and on my return is when the pressure to marry really started me on the path to question everything I had been taught. I was in no way, shape, or form in a position to get married and have children, but the pressure was immense. It’s been such a difficult and painful process. I am almost constantly at war with my own mind, trying to deprogram a lot of the shame and guilt I felt through the church’s teachings. I’ve lost almost all my friends and relationships that were made through the church. Thank you for putting words to how I have felt and many others have probably felt leaving the church.

[@jojoisgeexp]

I hope you find the peace you deserve. Racism and religious trauma are a potent and painful combination. Therapy helps!

[@spacewomantw]

Thank you for sharing your story! I'm from Taiwan and served a mission in the US. I definitely had some racist companions but didn't catch onto what they said until later. Like you said, I think I probably just ignored it entirely. I'm still trying to heal from the damage that the mormon belief caused! Again, thanks for sharing ❤

[@madmanmanx]

Hey Lynn. I remember you in my early morning seminary class. For the record I loved having you as a student and am deeply saddened to hear you feel this way and would love to re-connect with you. I hope you are well wherever you are :)

[@johnnyharris]

thank you for sharing your valuable perspetive.

[@rickeyjewkes]

Hi Lynn, I'm sorry about your experience, especially with racism and discrimination. I'm a believing member who can't stand that kind of stuff and calls it out when I see it. Trying to make it more inclusive one step at a time.

[@ElliotBennett-d1t]

Johnny, you are a gifted video producer, and I truly appreciate the time and effort you put into your work. Your journalistic voice is naturally engaging, making it a pleasure to listen to, so please keep up the excellent work. While I’m not affiliated with any Mormon sect, I want to respectfully point out that the characterization you have made of the founder, Joseph Smith, is a flawed redux of both Mormon and non-Mormon professed historians of the day who have framed the events of the early 1800's divorced from Smith's contemporaneous views as expressed in his own words through his original, undoctor journal entries, lectures and sermons. Much of what has been said about Joseph Smith over the years is based on what others have written about him, rather than taking him at his own word. It’s important to recognize that Mormonism was not fully formed when Joseph Smith was murdered at the hands of his former friends, and it underwent significant changes during Brigham Young’s leadership. One major example is the evolution of sealing ordinances. What began with Joseph as a way to spiritually connect both women and men to himself as a covenant Patriarch (think Abrahamic covenant structure with promised posterity) was later reshaped by Brigham Young and others into a practice of polygamy, which included physical relationships and children. In contrast, Joseph Smith fathered children only with his wife Emma despite the claim that he was “married” to over 40 women. Careful dissection of testimonies and affidavits, mostly recorded decades after the events, reveal the unmistakable influence of the evolving doctrine of the Brigham Young era. At the time, it became essential to attribute polygamy to Joseph Smith to support the developing narrative of the time and give legitimacy to the Brigham Young transition of power and leadership. There are still new discoveries being made regarding historical documents, and these require careful, unbiased study to arrive at fair conclusions. My suggestion, Johnny, is to remain open-minded and not give up yet on that feeling you have inside that there may actually be something real and legitimate to what it was Joseph Smith was trying to transmit to the people of is day, no matter how dimmed by time it may have become. After 15 years of my own research, I’ve come to see Joseph Smith as an honest, virtuous person, deeply loyal to his wife and incapable of duplicity. In his own words, he assessed himself as being too jovial at times, but never capable of any grave sin or misdeed. Isolated and examined untethered to other people’s commentary, his public and private messaging was always humble, consistent and in defense of moral, righteous principles. Keep searching, and trust that your curiosity and instincts will guide you toward a more fulsome and truthful understanding.

[@CypherAFhhhh]

I feel like this was a hard story for Johnny to tell and I appreciate the insight from someone who’s been through it.

[@happyruimi-u3n]

Joseph Smith was the bigger 🧢of all time

[@kingace6186]

I agree. He had to balance objectivity with a whole lotta personal connection.

[@phatmhat9174]

@@kingace6186 he wasn't that objective. a lot of what he taught as doctrine or beliefs was actually just his perspective or opinion or just missing important pieces such that it was, well, wrong or misleading.

[@kelleynrothaermel2311]

Not hard at all when he makes a ton of money for videos like this.

[@SJ-nl6xl]

​@kelleynrothaermel2311 why Joseph Smith didn't make a lot of money. How about the church leaders and their clandestine hedge fund

[@lydia1634]

My dad is a professor, a scholar of Biblical Literature. We were based in AZ for a while and he had a lot of Mormon students. Knowing that this was the lens a lot of his students were using in coming to his classes, he decided to read the Book of Mormon. He found 17 basic Biblical Studies errors on the first page. I think he only made it five pages before he gave up. They're the kind of errors that happen when someone is familiar with the King James Bible and doesn't actually know Hebrew or understand how Hebrew names work. For example, Biblical names all have meanings. What you call something or someone really matters because it says something about them. No self-respecting ancient Israelite would name their son Lehi. That means jawbone. It's the name of a city in the book of Judges where Samson destroys an army with a donkey's jawbone...but it's not a name you give your kid. (Also, Sam. Sam is not a Biblical name) It's clear that Joseph Smith just found a bunch of names from his KJV and threw them together haphazardly. Mosiah doesn't mean anything. It's clearly a portmanteau of Moses and Isaiah. Anyway. As a supposed ancient document, the Book of Mormon does not pass the smell test.

[@colestevens3069]

@@MissSunrise Yes, according to the BoM, Moroni was the last keeper of his people's historical records (the collection of which is named after Moroni's father who brought these smaller "books" together, the Book of Mormon)

[@BrandanLee]

There are ConLangs from mid-tier authors who create more believable and internally consistent yarns with make believe languages inspired by real languages and histories. That any human being with a well formed prefrontal cortex can look at that work, look at themselves, and say, "okay, this is the truth, and I believe that without snickering one bit," baffles me. If you had my family, finances, home, and self identity held hostage at-- oh, okay, that makes sense.

[@BrandanLee]

@@MissSunrise I've never understood the conjugation rules of Reformed Egyptian. Why is a follower of Moroni a Mormon, but a follower of Nehpi isn't... a Nephon? That's a Nephite? Wouldn't that be a Moronite? Or just a Moron?

[@lydia1634]

@@BrandanLee These names definitely give the vibe of Bible fanfic.

[@kentstallard6512]

Actual Bible scholars are rarely believers.

[@ManPlusRiver]

As a former devout Mormon, thank you for making this

[@CovieEstribor]

😮

[@noneyabusiness2237]

Johnny Harris, you expose one scam, mormon, while PROMOTING a scam that has been sued for FRAUD: BetterHelp. Why don't you do a video exposing BetterHelp? Because this is all about MONEY MONEY MONEY, not about telling the truth about LDS. Google "BetterHelp lawsuit".

[@CamaroJohnson-rw2kp]

lds stupid?

[@darcyharefeld211]

You can only claim to have been a devout Mormon if you have a testimony of its truthfulness. If you ever had a testimony nothing anyone says about it could have decieved you into leaving it.

[@prestoncole1862]

Uhhhh no

[@Scott2148]

thank you. You are a great storyteller. And this was a great and insightful tale. I am a student of religion and of our search for meaning. Sharing your personal journey and your reflection on the history of LDS, the charisma of John Smith and the comfort you found in your religious tradition are very personal and insightful. I think Suzanne Vega wrote "its a one time thing, it just happens often". Thankk you,

[@jacksonthedoggy]

At 16 I was the first in my family to leave the church in 2002. Born in Provo, to pioneer heritage this was a huge deal. I lost everything, my home, family, friends. I had years of “leaving” the church, Deprogramming from the shame and guilt that were ingrained in me my whole life. I cannot put into words what the church did to me & the amount of pain I was left to deal with. Seeing so many leaving the church makes me so happy - so many children who will be spared the fear, shame, and conditioning for obedience to men. The freedom to experience the world on my own terms has been the greatest gift, one that I will never take for granted. This is not a black and white issue, there was a lot of good things growing up in the church but the damage was greater than any of the good. I wish everyone in the church all the best, truly. I wish everyone who has left peace as they navigate this new world. ❤

[@jellyballs4596]

@@lunagalaxymedia 😮‍💨

[@ridinwithjake]

Just come back to being Mormon. You shouldn’t have left. It’s a privilege to be a Mormon.

[@ash_yt0]

@@lunagalaxymedia Give it a rest, believing in wild claims of spiritual beings without any demonstration or evidence for their existence, is how people get sucked into cults like LDS Church in the first place.

[@meln4214]

May God bless you, I hope you have not given up on Christianity entirely.

[@mikeh9956]

@@ridinwithjake It's a privilege to be brainwashed?

[@calebk1841]

I'm from India, and a family from our traditional protestant church moved to Utah, and it's interesting how the Mormon church almost forcefully pushed them to join their fellowships, even though this family knew that some things weren't right with our beliefs the first time I heard about Mormonism was in a movie I watched about the Mormons travelling to Salt lake city. it was pretty unnerving. the second time I heard of it was in a sherlock holmes book. when this family went there I was really wary of all this because it seemed so fantastical and not what you would expect in the middle of America. This video really gave a good understanding though

[@werewolfleader4755]

How did you finished watching a 40 Min video in 15 Mins that's my question ??

[@ytlurker220]

@@werewolfleader4755 the guy was commenting on his family friends...

[@cosmosisrose]

@@werewolfleader4755people often comment before they finish the video

[@Evan-hq5dt]

@@werewolfleader4755 chill dude.

[@polishherowitoldpilecki5521]

Indian Bros Best wishes from Poland 🇵🇱

[@topranked5465]

Not a Mormon but I had Mormons come to my house for many years. They were very kind ppl and I have nothing but positive experiences with them. I'm an atheist myself, but was an evangelical Christian for many years. Leaving the church was one of the most painful experiences but I just had to face reality and couldn't lie to myself and others anymore when I stopped believing

[@HuatulcoGuy]

Me as well, I can relate!

[@johnbrion4565]

Why did you leave Christianity?

[@Jonathan-tw4xm]

​@@johnbrion4565I don't think he was even christian to begin with.

[@Jonathan-tw4xm]

​@JibacoaGuy the root of atheism is nihilism. If your honest as a person. Morality is not a thing if your not theist. Not reason to care about animal cruelty or even anything else.

[@Jonathan-tw4xm]

@@Cocoisagordonsetter you don't get to reply to what I think about this guys life experience Edit: Many people haven't realised the hypocrisy of your statement. Why don't I get to say anything but you can say something to me. Why. Because you have judged I'm wrong therefore I have no right to respond. Are you the measurement of objective morality? Since when did you obtain this?

[@erikj656]

I just discovered your channel today and took the day off of work to binge watch, something I have NEVER done and doubt will happen again. Having said that, how absolutely engaging and refreshingly brilliant I find your productions to be Mr. Harris. You possess the very gift you describe so well of the prophet you once followed. You and your group are journalism of a caliber nearly unobtainable on this platform or world for that matter. I'm actually considering the possibility of contacting you and offering my particular eclectic set of skills to the cause- Whether this comes to be or not I offer you the highest of praises.

[@johnnybaldwin3419]

I am an African American and I joined the Mormon Church in 1989. My wife, at that time, my three children, Along with myself, were baptized at the local ward. I can’t deny that there were some really good things to come out of my time with the church. I was a stake missionary and truly enjoyed sharing the gospel with others. I greatly expanded my scriptural knowledge and made some great friends. I’ve since increased my knowledge of scripture greatly. I just couldn’t get with the Joseph Smith story.

[@ronnelson930]

*Joseph Smith's story really!!, what about their racist history they only changed because then-President Jimmy Carter threatened to revoke their tax exempt status? I can't understand why any black person would want to be part of that church or any of the Abrahamic religions that have demonized black people in their scriptures starting with the curse of Ham*

[@ronnelson930]

Joseph Smith's story really!!, what about their racist history they only changed because then-President Jimmy Carter threatened to revoke their tax-exempt status? I can't understand why any black person would want to be part of that church or any of the Abrahamic religions that have demonized black people in their scriptures starting with the curse of Ham

[@ronnelson930]

Joseph Smith's story really!!, what about their racist history they only changed because then-President Jimmy Carter threatened to revoke their tax-exempt status? I can't understand why any black person would want to be part of that church or any of the Abrahamic religions that have demonized black people in their scriptures starting with the curse of Ham

[@MyTosewosies]

honeslty. most of the history that is said is false. Ive literally never heard of this magical chocolate stone in my life. Nor can I find any mention of it in joseph smith history. edit:actually, everything he says is false. He did say he wasnt going the anti mormon path, and yet he did.

[@xillion4923]

@@MyTosewosies If we're being actually honest here, he was telling the truth, and he skipped over a LOT of far worse things he could've said. If you've never heard of the stone, you just haven't read enough. Trusting only church-approved sources will get you nowhere, but since I know you probably wouldn't trust anything else, the church admitted he did the magical-seer-stone-in-a-hat thing. On the church website, look in the "Gospel Topics Essays", under "Book of Mormon Translation" in the fourth paragraph under the "Translation Instruments" subheading. While you're at it, you should read the rest of the Essays. And everything else in the video was correct as well. I'd know. Just like him, I spent decades in that church before I actually read up on the stuff.

[@helzbellz0417]

It really hit me when you talked about the deep sadness you feel at the loss of your belief. I left the church at about 19 years old, almost 10 years ago now. I still have a longing for that same sense of community that I grew up with, I still have a desire for the ease of life when you give your all to God and church. At times, I think about how easy it would be to just go back and be the woman I was raised to be. Talking about this story and the stories we were raised with, still, creates such a massive surge of emotions for me. Like you said, it's inexplicable and at times I even forget but, it always comes back to me in little ways. Thanks for making this video and the future ones in this series. It truly is important to share this story and you're sharing it with respect but also, valid criticism.

[@Trancymind]

I feel like the more authoritarian the society is example- government, parent, religion is more painful it is to leave it behind. If you left it, it is because of a good reason. I left the catholic church when I was 15 years old, it didn't effect that much due to the fact I still had my family and friends in touch and on good terms AND the catholic church for being lenient and less authoritarian. But when I permanently left my father when I was 10 years old, it was very difficult and painful in a good way due to the fact my father was very controlling, manipulator and physical abuser.

[@jakebarker6962]

have you found anything to replace the belief-system you were raised with? I'm 29, so we're roughly the same age, and I've always looked at the simplistic reasoning behind what we're told pretty skeptically. At the same time, I do put a lot of stock in the values I was raised with and life does seem much simpler without a lot of the problems that are common to modern society. My biggest question is if it's all a hoax (in an all or nothing type scenario) then is there any real purpose to life other than existing and trying to make sure you don't add misery to someone else's existence? Am I doomed to be lost with my questions the rest of my days until I die; enlightened but unsure? Basically, am I better off living in ignorant bliss or is there some other answer to be found?

[@Livingthelife234]

Same. I WISH I could believe it again and have tried several times over the last thirty years. The community and sense of security being wrapped up in it all is a hard loss and I don't know that one ever fully recovers from it.

[@BreaknBrad]

I understand your sadness of losing your belief. I left a year into my mission in Guatemala, and it was the hardest decision of my life at that time to leave it all behind. Looking back, I can confidently say that I've never been happier since I left religion behind in my life.

[@isaaclloyd383]

im in the same boat haha. left early from a mission in Guatemala after becoming disillusioned

[@anarchoyeasty3908]

I never went on a mission because I was a sinner who watched porn, but I did lose my faith at a time when I was surrounding myself heavily with mormon ideology. It's funny because conference talk after conference talk says that if we leave we will come back, miserable, and beg to be let back in. But yet, I have literally never been so happy and so at peace as I have been abandoning religion.

[@jimmyn8574]

​@@anarchoyeasty3908unfortunately like many others that is ironically where you went wrong. fulfillment doesn't come from the religion, but from a deeply personal relationship with God himself.

[@Bubajumba]

@@jimmyn8574 That's what so good about Protestantism, you don't have to follow your corrupt priests. God never intended for single minded individual to decide his will and thoughts.

[@darlenelane9010]

YES..... into infinity!

[@RodrigoTura-fm9ts]

The standard of truth has been erected. No unhallowed hand can stop the work from progressing; persecutions may rage, mobs may combine, armies may assemble, CALUMNY may defame, but the truth of God will go forth boldly, nobly, and independent till it has penetrated every continent, visited every clime, swept every country, and sounded in every ear, till the purposes of God shall be accomplished and the great Jehovah shall say the work is done.  -Joseph Smith, 1842

[@dnhater12]

I grew up very devout Mormon-- my father was a seminary principle and dean of church history at BYU. I understand the anguish that occurs when you begin to entertain the idea that all you had believed in your entire life may not be true. It is sad when you realize that church principles such as "eternal family" and "immortal life" may also be a fiction. There is a certain comfort in blocking out reality. Johnny did a good job explaining the emotional toll that happens to all of us. However, I am happy that I live in reality, not fantasy anymore.

[@thomasmanning9111]

This comment sums it up for me too. Sometimes I miss the fantasy land and wish I could go back.

[@surrealsupercell7217]

The thing is, Mormonism is a cultish "off-shoot" of Christianity (although practically most Christians deny that Mormonism is even Christianity for several good reasons). I'm not sure where exactly you're at in terms of spirituality and what not, but i'll say this... Mormonism is so close, yet so far from the truth. It took the truth and arguably perverted it. It took the gospel of Christ and twisted it to say something Christ never said or really even teaches. It's a very clever deception (although I doubt Joseph Smith really knew the reality of his teachings).

[@ahah86]

Remember that what you build with reason, logic and science can be equally powerful and comforting. It just take time to switch from the previous mind setting to the next. I've been an atheist all my life and during my childhood I've been tempted by how comforting was religious, specially regarding life after death. By my reason and logic put me back on the most reliable path to truth and I still live in owe and admiration for how incredibly beautiful life is, giving my very own meaning to all of this, without the need to borrow it from a dogma.

[@BonsaiLex]

So what do you believe in now and what do you hope for now?

[@GreenTimeEagle]

I believe that there is an overarching and truly existing spiritual and unseen dimension. I also believe that it is possible to have spiritual experiences (without drugs) that will allow people to see this truth. I hope you find happiness, whatever you do in life.

[@paaaatrika]

So.. You couldn't find any evidence he found any treasure yet he somehow had the reputation he was a "skilled treasure hunter". Sounds to me like he was just a skilled con man.

[@prairiedweller8917]

Young Joseph Smith ate some mushrooms he found in the woods.

[@AllanOooo-y8y]

Because white people believe each other even when they know they are biblically and spiritually lying? Just lying period.

[@WoodlandT]

That’s how all religions start

[@Kapa-sa67]

​@WoodlandT not Christianity, people were prophesying about Jesus before he was born, but joseph smith prophecy about him self.

[@TheBaltherion]

I think what he was trying to say is that for the times he was in, Joseph's use of magical tools to find the scripture was not seen as taboo. Therefore, it wasn't really questioned as he could just be seen as a great treasure hunter. Also, the only point I can recall he had no evidence on was the geographical and genetic footsteps that connect Native Americans to ancient Jews.

[@AdamDuffArt]

I might not be religious myself, but I was very concerned when your original upload was removed. I was worried that you were getting trolled for it. I’m glad it was just a re-upload, thank you :)

[@Sadlander2]

I watched this video when it was released and I just watched it again, one year later. When Johnny talked about how he had to rewire his brain because he now knows that what he used to believe is not real, my first thought was that it must have been a relief, feeling free from what people had been force feeding him for years...but now I think it must have felt like mourning the loss of a close friend. I'm always glad when someone who's been made to believe lies finds the truth but in this case, I also feel sad for him. After all, it was true to him for so many years, especially during these precious years when he was a teenager, years that build the person you become for the rest of your life.

[@KefashWhite]

I appreciate your very balanced comment. I was never a Mormon but I know from being manipulated for years, it is hard to overcome. I used to think people are free to believe whatever they want but now I find myself pushing back on dangerous beliefs that are not based on facts or evidence. Especially when it involves the indoctrination of kids. I like what you said about waking up can feel like a relief and a loss at the same time. 👌

[@angelaricaurte6926]

As a former member thank you for sharing in a fair and clear manner. I may not believe anymore, but it still has a special place in my heart.

[@direct.skc.2]

As an atheist from a Hindu pandit (priests and authority on religion) background I find the stories not even a quarter of the mysterious and magical nature that Hindu mythology is. So, just imagine how difficult it was to unwrap my mind out of those and see the bigger picture. I appreciate your videos and explaining Mormon ideas in plain terms to people who have no idea of what Mormonism is all about. I am very interested in learning about other religions and your videos helps a lot when it comes to understanding Mormon beliefs. Thank you 👍

[@agme8045]

I feel like it’d be easier to see how dumb a religion is the crazier and more magical it seems. Like i get why some people may believe there’s a superior being that created the world. But like believing in legends and mystical stories (almost like fairytales) is a whole other thing. No disrespect, but like how come Indians still praise cows. I’d understand if they chose not to eat or kill them for cultural reasons but they like actually have a spiritual meaning for a lot of you.

[@Arjunarjunskiy]

What are your thoughts on Jainism?

[@rohanpatel3204]

@@agme8045it’s tied to the belief system, and any number of reasons could explain the sanctity of cows. it’s not that we worship or praise them; rather they’re sacred animals to be treated with respect. of course, hindus believe in treating all animals with respect-but the cow specifically gives us things like milk. milk is used heavily in indian foods and even in the scripture, the Lord Krishna loves butter and is sometimes depicted sitting on a cows back. they’re so deeply engraved in the culture that they just get treated with respect and care.

[@celestialsatheist1535]

Hey ex Hindu atheist here. You know not everyday you see an ex Hindu

[@agme8045]

@@rohanpatel3204 oh that makes sense. Sorry for my ignorance. I was convinced I had read something about an Indian god that was like a personification of a cow. But I guess I just made that up

[@erp010]

Practicing Mormon here. This is the most fair assessment of the church I've seen in a LONG TIME! Pure facts given. Love it. Thanks for sharing your experiences, the stories as fair as possible, and the take from the LDS side. I cannot think of one part where I would had pressed the issue on a certain fact or a stand point the general membership sees in the stories. Bravo.

[@elibella5660]

I'm not an active/practicing member , but I agree with you . I thought he did a really good job. Right in par with his other videos. Very fair and honest. I have a question though. Was there anything in this video that was brand new to you? If not, is all of this information already known by the church or members? I haven't really been to church in many years, but grew up in it knee deep pre 2000. I was never taught many many of the controversial things in this video.

[@remgu2000]

​@@elibella5660It's all known to us members.

[@flickshotgirl]

Bro get out. Get. Out. GET OUT! look up the churches racist past.

[@cuypers1800]

@@flickshotgirlbut don’t look up the racist pasts of the Catholic Church in Spain kicking out Jews and Muslims… or that honor killings are legal in many Arab countries. It doesn’t take long to find fault in almost any religion.

[@ridinwithjake]

@@flickshotgirl”racist past”? Bro, just about everything has a “racist past” the entire humanity. Judging present people or organizations by the beliefs they held 100 years ago is just dumb. I’m sure your ancestors from 100 years ago were also racist.

[@frankcornellier7923]

Johnny I want to thank you for such an objective discussion of the Mormon church. I especially appreciated your comments as to why it is still difficult for you to react to the disconnect you feel from the emotional joy and comfort the Morgan stories gave you. It made me think of those who loved Jim Jones right down to the end even though they saw with their own eyes the many bad things that he was doing. It was the comfort in the belief of what he said rather than what was practiced. Now that you can see the things objectively wouldn’t you agree with me that true Christianity should be based on the appeal the Apostle Paul made to the Roman Congregation when he said, “Therefore, I appeal to you by the compassion of God, Brothers, to present your bodies as a living, sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, a sacred service with your POWER OF REASON.” True Christianity should appeal to our power of reason and not merely to our emotions, particularly the emotion of something hoped for. So often in the scriptures, we are encouraged to take in solid spiritual food to progress to maturity, and not merely to be caught up in some pie in the sky emotion.

[@johnb5254]

Reminds me of the quote, "It’s Easier To Fool People Than To Convince Them That They’ve Been Fooled"

[@TowelGard]

Ex-Mormon and return missionary here, watching this I found my old mental conditioning pushing me to doubt the experiences that led me to leave the church. Joseph Smith's teachings were truly incredible and it can be surprisingly easy to forget all of the times my mental health struggles were chalked up to my own spiritual shortcomings, lack of faith, and sinful actions. I used to be terrified of ex-communication (punitive removal from the church), ironically as being out of the church by my own choice has been so incredibly freeing.

[@thekolobsociety]

Hey. Are you still religious?

[@jbmp1390]

Good for you! Don't ever feel bad, you made the right choice. Believing in this kind of stuff is just ignorant. Anyone with the ability to think logically and critically can tell from the get go that the Mormon "story" is just obvious lies. Mormonism is far from the only religion that's true about though.

[@internet_userr]

​@@thekolobsociety what do you think

[@cyberpaw]

Can you tell me why Coca-Cola is allowed but not coffee?

[@erenjaeger1738]

Mormon is weird they think dark skin ain't right XD

[@Gr33dyGenius85]

Wow wow wow, I’m a week away from baptism and I’m glad I came across this video. I’ve been wrestling with these obvious inconsistencies for weeks now, and have had no outlet or avenue for discussion, because it’s frowned upon. The honesty and raw truth of this video is refreshing and inspiring, Thank you so much for this video, I’m gonna show as much support as I can for this channel, you’re doing gods work in a major way. Keep up the great work brother!

[@mitchwayman1135]

Man Johnny, I can't tell you how much I needed this video today. I am currently on a journey to figure out my own beliefs with the LDS church. I was born, raised, served a mission and did all the things like yourself. I am into my 30's now and the last few months I have been searching for clarity and not feeling like I have a clear understanding on anything anymore. Thank you for putting together true facts and statements in a beautiful way. Watching this today has been something for me to consider deeply right now. I look forward to part 2. I am also curious to know how you base your beliefs about God in general today after leaving the church. Thank you.

[@yingmin100]

Choose the right

[@RUVASongbird]

Your videos are truly touching and engaging. I’m an Aussie with a very close friend from the LDS church. (Alot of Polynesians are very religious here) he and his family are absolutely wonderful and some of the most kindest people i know. I feel you really painted a picture for me (particularly in the last 10 mins about WHY) and explained things I haven’t had the courage to ask my friend about when it comes to his beliefs. I get it. I dont need to judge, scold, laugh, challenge or belittle my friend. I just need to understand as best i can that as humans we all deserve comfort. Thankyou for enlightening me.

[@brahm-ahamasmi]

And you don't have a right to either if you are yourself religious

[@RKOky]

Sad how they were colonized with BS

[@kylemckell]

The feeling of sadness of not believing anymore really is one of the most tragic parts of leaving the church. I best compare it to a broken relationship, you always wonder what life would be like if it hadn't turned sour. When you leave the church you leave community, disappoint family, lose friends, and now have to find a new purpose in life. You wish that you believed enough to have your parents be proud of you as you go on a mission, so you spend the rest of your life attempting to gain that level of pride from your loved ones. You feel stupid for falling for something for so long, and don't know how to set boundaries with rituals that the rest of your family still partakes in. I don't regret my decision to leave, but I do wish that it didn't come with additional baggage.

[@lhd7105]

Like Johnny said, it is like taking a pill in the scene from the Matrix. The truth was so important to the protagonist. And to find the truth when there's still _time_ to set things right was important to the protagonist. He felt a lil bit like, "there has to be more to this. life is too simple. am i really just this drone, this ant in the ant colony?" That the truth is tied at the hip to discomfort--that just life. Life has always been suffering--Life _is_ suffering. Whether you are Mormon or not. But we all like nice things. We all suffer FOMO. But we have the free agency to pick what to be FOMO about. You choose not to be FOMO about the possible negatives of leaving church--you took the pill--you should be proud of your conviction to seek the truth--that's the sort of character reference by which the young and impressionable around you want and need. You did your adult'n well. Bravo.

[@alexlarusso6364]

You described my feelings, I guess is the same for everyone who truly believe and dedicated the life towards the the religion.

[@richardholmes5676]

Have you seen the 2 response videos to this above video? The 2 response videos clearly proves the above video is not representing the church the right way.

[@charliechurch5004]

Bless ur heart, we are here for you. ❤️

[@dylanchapman6902]

mathew 19:29

[@coasterjaz89]

Wow, absolutely beautiful video. I also grew up in the faith. I discovered as a young man, I had same sex attraction. I actually decided to live as my authentic self, started to come out towards the end of HS. Sadly, I did not serve a mission, and slowly left the church in my young adulthood. It was definitely a difficult decision at times, and took time to reconcile my religious upbringing with how I was starting to view the world. The immense feelings of guilt and shame, disappointment I had brought to the family, friends and acquaintances within the community. I really enjoyed your video!

[@padhatam]

It took a lot of bravery to tell this story Johnny and I admire that you did it. Also your CGI has become really top notch!

[@keonyang3332]

Why does no one talk about Charles Russell then?

[@silentandcliche]

​@@keonyang3332I'd assume it's because he was a much less successful cult leader than Joseph Smith.

[@keonyang3332]

@@silentandcliche Well you are right on one thing, that's an assumption.

[@jaysunbrady]

The cgi is actually A.I

[@Joachim_M._Mart]

​@@silentandclicheone of the best things of that church (JWs) is that they literally have the so many languages (more than 1000) translated their own bible. Not even Google or Wikipedia has so many languages as the way they have

[@xaviererazo6491]

As a previous LDS member born into the religion I completely relate to this video. He mentions everything exactly how I view it. Thanks so much I felt no one could relate 😅

[@djwhite80]

“K, we did it dude” at the end is what all of us that have left the church and wish we could articulate why we left as good as Johnny does… just hits. Well done sir. This video was a reassurance that leaving after my mission was the right choice. Thank you.

[@Oculoustuos]

Johnny, it is rare that I listen to videos with such focus and all the way through as I have just finished part 1 of your most excellent KZbin. Now onto part 2. I am thrilled for you and your work. Thank you so much.

[@davewilkins72]

Johnny, this, and your "Why I Left The Mormon Church" are EXACTLY what my experience has been. Every word you have said could have come from my mouth. I am not a story teller, so thank you for telling our, and so many others, story in such a beautiful way. ♥

[@Cloudsurfer69]

Hope your doing good internet stranger. I’ve never been religious thankfully but I have mad respect for anyone who grew up basically been brainwashed (not necessarily on purpose) but still has the ability to rise above all the indoctrination and break free by thinking critically!

[@SamT79]

@@Cloudsurfer69we’re not brainwashed we are saved. I don’t believe in Jesus bc of the Bible, or bc someone said I should. I do bc I was depressed and decide to cry out to a god or Jesus and he answered me. We’re not brainwashed.

[@fyekid1419]

@@Cloudsurfer69Jesus is the only way to heaven. Mormonism is false doctrine btw.

[@Walter_Took_Methamphetamine]

@@fyekid1419 agreed.

[@junnybear957]

do you hear yourself bro LOL@@SamT79

[@lizzyjensen4476]

As an ex-Mormon myself thank you so much for putting this objectively because most tell the story aggressively and mock it. Although the history of the church is odd and scary, thank you for being sensitive to the religion. I tottaly agree that it is sad to hear these stories, glad I’m not alone. Thank you

[@EricCoplen]

Wow! I'm glad I watched this. I too served a mission (Ca, San Bernardino Mission 1999-2001) and left the church finally at 30...I officially removed my records at 44 (my age now). It took that long on a deep level to confront the pain of letting go of my inner child that held so strongly to these beliefs and I think perhaps the biggest thing, the feeling of belonging to a community so singular in focus and values. I still have faith and believe in higher power, but I am my own sovereign soul and I'm grateful for my foundation in the church. I appreciate your objective approach to laying all this out and, as a fellow content creator and videography buff, your production is off the chain! Really well done. Keep up the good work brother!

[@taliagrace44]

❤

[@ammaheinon]

Read the bible. God's word. You don't need other books.

[@sofefs3257]

energy efforts and time not wasted on me . Am born in the church and didn't learn nothing, parents said 18 of age free Agency which I wanted and try all the bad stuff to my mind body and soul . Sick and tired of the drama which comes with doing the bad stuff . 48 years old picked up the books I once knew and researched . All the X Saints others who want to disproof Jesus's one and only true church thank you all very much and keep up the good work for helping me get out of the wilderness and back at Jesus's church Yo LDS I'm back❤

[@polycreator-vt3hq]

As an ex-muslim, this video deeply resonates with me, particularly the paradox at the end. To me, it captures a universal experience for those of us who have stepped away from rigid, faith-based communities. The narratives we left behind may differ, but the essence of the experience remains the same - a poignant journey towards discovering truth, inevitably intertwined with the bittersweet relinquishing of a once defining purpose and community.

[@EscapeDunya]

How many rakats in surah baqarah?

[@DHU11]

@@EscapeDunyai know it perturbs you to know that someone dared to develop a mind of their own and abandon their indoctrination-i mean “faith”, but you have to accept it. asking these questions so the person can prove they were actually muslim will never be enough for you. you will always move the goalpost because you can’t accept the idea of someone who once believed now enlightening themselves. this person could quote the entire quran back to front word for word and you still wouldn’t be satisfied that they were once a muslim because it doesn’t fit into your narrative. i know lots of genuine ex muslims-shock horror.

[@lengting]

L comment

[@odim7960]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@EscapeDunyastop. Why do you people have such a weird obsession with trying to prove ex-muslims as being fake? We know damn well that Surah Al-Baqara is the second and longest quranic verse, and that rakats are the movements done during salat (2x2 for fajr, 4x2 dhuhur, 4x2 asr, 3x2 maghreb and 4x2 for isha). Why can't you accept the fact that we, ex-muslims, exist? It's such a weird culty thing, almost like you cannot fathom or believe that anyone would leave your "perfect" religion. Delusional.

[@aucklandnewzealand2023]

Selfishness, man-orientation, and egoism are the opposite of faith. God orientation is not a harm for, but a kind of healing. Because egoism not leads to eternal happiness. No one can understand religion fully and accept all the doctrines. That’s not that required. The same as physics, the basics are against the common sense. But the resulting conclusions work and lead to survival and flourishing.

[@BryceChristiansen]

Well done Johnny, as someone who lost his faith in the last few years, it's comforting to have others who can share the truth of Mormon History eloquently and in a non-confrontational manner. Maybe one day I can be brave enough to share my reasons for leaving the church to my family and videos like this will be a great help.

[@MarcosSobreiro-oi3ti]

1Nefi 12:23 👩🏾‍🦲❤

[@dang3340]

Sir, we care for our families but truth of the matter is , we do not need to explain anything to anyone. Mormonism has such a grip on you even when you leave it. 40 plus years for me. And I’m still scarred by it. It’s sad

[@dr.junior-33]

@@dang3340 brother have you considered looking for the one true religion after you left, i would urge you to read about the life of muhammad and compare it with your knowledge of Joseph smith, also i would recommend other sources for islam like our view on Jesus peace and blessing be upon him and Quran (our holy book) eternal challenge, If you are open to look for the truth please tell me and i will send you the links for these books All the best brother

[@theephraimite]

You people need to explain how an uneducated farm boy was able to write the Book of Mormon when his wife said he could barely write a simple sentence. Good luck with that.

[@ToxicFangX1]

@@dang3340 Sorry to hear that...

[@swagmundfreud666]

This is why my dad laughs out loud involuntarily whenever he learns someone converted to mormonism as an adult, it's just so absurd that you HAVE to be indoctrinated from birth, or really really dim, to believe it.

[@MrEyeist]

The Articles of Faith of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints 1.We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost. 2. We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not tor Adams transgression. 3.We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel. 4.We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost. 5.We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof. 6.We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth. 7.We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth. 8.We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God. 9.We believe all that God has revealed, all that hie does now reveal, and we belteve that lie will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God. 10.We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory. 11.We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may. 12.We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honor-ing, and sustaining the law. 13.We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul--We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.

[@RasheedGazzi-u5l]

The strangest thing that is seeing a black person convert to Mormonism.

[@DNaWhoot]

​@@RasheedGazzi-u5lYes it is. Funny how they work so closely with NAACP now. Trying to make up for old sins. It's a profit thing man

[@earl12121]

Converting to any religion as an adult is hilarious.

[@MrNexuscorre]

Though it’s been 8 years since I’ve been an active member. The Mormon Hymns a round Christmas time, its peaceful reminiscing of the positive times I’ve had with the church. I think that feeling will never leave me. But I do feel even better not being restricted to the world.

[@abbigailcaballero9757]

It’s always so interesting to me to hear other peoples’ journey out of the church. As a woman I had a much different experience than you did and decided much earlier in my life that it wasn’t a life for me. I’d be very interested in hearing your wife’s story if she would be comfortable sharing that

[@nolleau7958]

I’m a member of LDS church. Born and raised! I’m grateful for this video and have learnt more about our Prophet Joseph Smith. I always find it hard to read the scriptures & BOM because the language is hard for me to understand sometimes so this really helped me and I can’t wait for part 2. Thank you

[@joaolisboa7775]

do you support polygamy?

[@rykenator]

@@joaolisboa7775polygamy was practiced in the old days to help raise the church. we have evolved and took into consideration of our prophet.

[@joaolisboa7775]

@@rykenator cringe

[@johnx140]

@@joaolisboa7775 Any church you can attend or youre attending did something worse than polygamy so whats your point

[@joaolisboa7775]

@@johnx140 not attending to any, just reading the plain bible.

[@geddesthesea849]

i grew up mormon and identified as such for 24 years. i had a friend who was super into scientifically proving historical proof that the book of mormon was true. it was a facebook group i was a part of. it’s funny to look back at it now because EVERY time they had new possible evidence, we all got excited. but EVERY time it came back as untrue or inconclusive. incredibly convenient if you ask me

[@GospelLessons1]

There are many individual claims in this video that are incorrect and misleading. One of them is about how huge portions of the Book of Mormon are copy/paste jobs from the Bible. Here is a video that has the facts about that. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHeqfqqfesicirM . . .

[@qchecketts]

Hi Elder Harris ;) Thank you for sharing. I too grew up as a stanch member and served a mission. I came to the "truth" halfway through my mission. I really relate to your comment about how you "miss" believing in Joseph and the whole story. One December, my eldest son came to me and confronted me about Santa Claus. He told me to just admit that it was all fake and that mom and I were the ones behind the presents under the tree. He sounded so sure that I went along with it. Then he got quiet. I looked over to see his lower lip puff up and a tear form in his eye. I chuckled and pulled him in close for a hug and said, "Andy, I thought you knew it was all fake. You sounded so certain!" Any then he said, "Well, I kinda knew dad, but I didn't want to hear it." It was definitely a transition to process that much of what I held on to for 20 plus years was all a fagile stack of cards. Thanks again for handling this with class.

[@carrot-cat1746]

When the "Why I Left the Mormon Church" video came out, I was just beginning my own faith crisis journey. Now that I can say I've been on both sides, I just want to say thanks for making this. This is an excellent top-level breakdown of the church's founding history. And that in itself is awesome because there is sooooo much to synthesize and contextualize. More than I ever learned growing up in it.

[@philbrooks5979]

CES Letter is good to read.

[@carrot-cat1746]

@@philbrooks5979 Agreed

[@johnnyharris]

Thank you for sharing!!

[@RyanMercer]

That's not Lucky Mack Smith...

[@benrhunt]

It's Emma Smith, Joseph Smith's first wife. Since photography wasn't invented until the 1820s, there are no photographs of Lucy Smith with an infant Joseph. Clumsy error on the part of the video creator.

[@kirillshturbabin8536]

Johnny, thank you for the video! I have never been a Mormon officially, but I've spent a lot of time with the church as a child as my grandparents are Mormon. That's how how I know the Mormon history, theology and community very well even without realising it. And I can also somehow see the influence of this experience on my personality and culture. I bet, making this video required a lot of emotional recourse and I am grateful you did it. It makes people like me feel that we are not alone in our experiences ❤

[@misterwhite9815]

moroni?

[@zulus3406]

Just stumbled onto this video very interesting because I love history.