What About Coconuts, Coconut Milk, and Coconut Oil MCTs?

[@reloads223]

I could not figure why my cholesterol was so high , I tried everything to get it to drop. My doctor threatened me saying I needed to go on meds for it, my age is 65. I do not eat red meat, pork, no fried food, limited chicken, limited cheeses , ( once or twice a week) . I eat a lot of whole grains, like oat meal , and avoid sugar. It was not until I ran across Nutrition Facts, so I gave up eggs which were range fed organic, I was using coconut milk in my protein shakes, coconut coffee creamer to avoid dairy. Just giving up those two products, in a short period of just 3 months my cholesterol dropped like a rock and my doctor could not believe it . I could not either as I believed I was eating healthy and was using eggs as meat replacement in my diet.

[@fernandofontenla8466]

I'm so glad you got better!

[@DeanLoew]

Very helpful, thank you!

[@botzer8817]

How your doctor cannot know that coconut oil contains saturated fats? Being aware of the MCTs/LCT or not he should suggest you to try to remove it from your diet... Chicken can also raise your cholesterol a lot from what I read in a recent study, same for cheese

[@ongsam2634]

My diet seems same as you and with the same conditions. I dropped coconut milk but not eggs, by then, my cholesterol level dropped drastically. Thanks for the sharing 💕💕💕

[@user-ff7nw6kn9j]

@@botzer8817 Cheese makes sense since it's mostly fat lol. Chicken possibly, but that's usually why Chicken is usually paired with something fibrous (vegetables) and sometimes with fruit (lemon). Also depends if you eat the skin or not, which is pretty much all fat... and the best part of the chicken sadly

[@phillippinter7518]

The first diet that he was showing on the island Kitava with the absence of stroke and heart disease was still quite high in coconut. If you look at the table the median intake was 90 - 130 g per 10 Mj (2,388 Kcal). That's about 390 calories of raw coconut meat. On the other table on the island Pukapuka the diet was super imbalanced. First of many of the non coconut calories came from meat and sugar with a complete absence of vegetables and legumes. On the table shown at 3:12 the fast saturated fat meal only had 14 g saturated fat while the local one had 40 g of saturated fat. Not to mention it had an egg and fish and enough of that to supply the same amount of cholesterol as the fast food meal. If both those meals had the same effect (witch they basically did. Actually the fast food meal was even worse) it would imply that the saturated fat in the local meal did not dilate blood flow as much as the first one. I'm not trying to lobby for coconut's. Just saying I would like some further research.

[@NamFlow]

Yes, I would like to also see some further research on this topic, because I don't think that coconut as a whole is bad for us. Coconut oil? Yes, just like most vegetable oils it's not good to consume or cook with. It's not naturally occuring. Coconut milk? I'm not sure about that one but if one reads the label of coconut milk products, it doesn't contain that much of saturated fat per 100g / ml. Eating just one coconut based yoghurt or 1 serving of coconut milk shouldn't do any harm, I believe?

[@phillippinter7518]

@@NamFlow Yeah, especially considering that many of us watchibg this are not at major risk for heart disease, stroke, diabetes or overweight. And the people on the island eating a lot of whole coconut were perfectly fine.

[@botzer8817]

@@NamFlow "just like most of vegetable oils" canola oil, avocado oil, walnut oil or linseed oil is certainly not bad for your health... Except if it is oxidized, like for any source of fat. Olive oil is less processed, but all seeds oils are not that bad.

[@charleshorseman55]

A helpful reminder...coconut is not an American export. As in, we import it all. We export grain and seed oils. Follow the money fellers.

[@naldebol]

\What further research do you need The video clear stated the factors that drive coconut oil to raise LDL cholesterol.

[@ernestm57]

Coconut oil may not be good inside the body. However, for hair it's amazing!!

[@miloradvlaovic]

That's also not really the case. Effects on hair and skin are not studied enough to even conclusively say it helps. If used on people with androgenic alopecia it tends to worsen their scalp health and increase cytokine production. For people with greassy hair, as any kind of fat, it will cause dandruff.

[@Coolexcitingname]

You gonna get fat hair- it's heart beat will be gone

[@ramikla_146]

So one doesn’t benefit from replacing animal fats with 2 plant sources of saturated fat Cocoa and Coconut Oil?

[@backyardsausage]

@@ramikla_146 As you can see from the research presented in the video, you would be lowering your heart disease risk by doing so, but still you would be heightening your risk compared to no oil.

[@ramikla_146]

@@backyardsausage appeal to epidemiology I don’t care about correlation I care about causation (Nisi Causaulitas)

[@bugsnapoles3909]

There is no science in what I'll say, what I have is experience, emperical experience. I'm Filipino and live in one of the coconut producing province of the country. Our diet consists of a high proportion of coconuts from its milk to cook vegetables, its oil to fry (excelent for frying), its young nuts for its excelent coconut water and meat, its dessicated coconut meat for baked products, sweets, macaroons, even coconut meat flour, and VCO for energy and health. We likewise use coconut oil for skin and hair care. In other words we consume alot of coconuts. We had virtually very low incidence of metabolic diseases (diseases of the organs) then. My grand parents died in their 90s yet they really love coconuts. Coconuts were their food and livelihood making and selling copra. However, today, our society is being plague with metabooic diseases with the advent of western diets in our food chain. McDonalds, KFC, Wendy's, Shakeys, Pizza Hut, Kenny Rogers and a lot more. Moreover western processed foods have flooded our local markets to the detriment of the health of our population. Western lifestyle, advertisemnets and commercials are what we see everyday and has tremendous influence in the food intake. And has introduced and raised western types of diseases in my country. Its not coconuts and its byproducts that are a health risk. Its the introduction and consumption of western foods that has made my country sick. The west is so great in commercial propaganda. What I see is the continuing demonization of coconuts its oil and other byproducts by the likes of the American Soybean Association (ASA), American Heart Association (AHA), American Diabetes Association (ADA) and the likes and the promotion of their products (soy, corn, rapeseed/canola etc oils) and drugs of big pharmas to medicate the diseases caused by these oil through inflamation of arteries and organs. I myself had been a victim of western foods. I am 5 feet 5 inches in height and grew to weigh 105 kgs. Had highblood pressure, had a heart condition, high bloodsugar, arthritis, fatty liver, and a host of other condition. Was spending a lot of hard earned money for medication all from western big pharmas. Was feeling so down and bad. Became desprate and decided to change my life. I stopped consuming western foods and went local foods and more coconut products as my grandparents did. Guess what, I lost 33kgs! And did away with all medications. No more statins, losartans, metformins, anti artrithic meds and anti palpitation meds. I'm virtually medication free. I take 2tbsp VCO morning and evening before meals. I've reduced my food intake to half what it used to be but I maintain eating local foodstuff (rice, rootcrops, coconuts, veggies, native chicken and pig) no foods from McDo, KFC, Wendys even doughnuts and breads. I'm 66 yrs old and never felt better. I'm enjoying my grandson and awaiting a granddaughter by January 2019. My sons are likewise changing their lifestyle following suit. My wife who's been a victim too is on her way to getting better. Life is turning for the good and better and coconuts are an ever part of our life. God bless you all.

[@carlaa.1617]

Well said:)

[@eugeniebreida]

Congratulations! Wow, it is crazy that anyone would decide to eat a 'Western Diet' - which is basically and industrially driven money maker for a few greedy corporations = frankenfood. Anyone who eats McDon, KFC, Wendy's, doughnuts and gmo'd breads which are not made in traditional manner will suffer health consquences, sooner or later, more or less - according to amount and dumb luck. I'm really pleased to read your story. You eat like I do, even though I am in the 'Western world' - rice, veggies (yes root veg), berries/some fruit. For now I am trying to stay away from chicken/pig/oils, as I would like clear arteries (brain, heart, everywhere) . . . I do agree 100% that eating coconut is great, especially if your culture had it over 1000's of years. Your microbiome must love it. Again, your story is very eduational and inspirational! I do hope your WHOLE family is now 'never felt better'! : )

[@paulaqueirosz]

Very nice comment indeed... may I just correct you in one thing: all this stuff you cited are not western food, it's American. And it's also ruining the health of Latin Americans and Europeans (also westerners, traditionally not junk food based). By the way, you're new diet sounds a lot tastier than the previous one...

[@eldaabouffartiqueroyer7676]

Agreed same here. When I switched to mainly coconut products my health improved. That is enough science for me. Yet I did read several books on coconut and saw videos from Doctor Fife from Colorado Springs Colorado institute of Medicine. He has lots of great information and a plethora of research of island research on coconuts and palm. Look him up on KZbin.

[@Krumpina1029]

​@@paulaqueiroszand to be fair on Americans, it's not even traditional American food. The various regions of America all have their own traditional foods which are very nice but not consumed as much now. McD, KFC etc are big corporate fast food chains. They are only legal because of lobbying.

[@mattdelora9601]

Dr. Greger is killin it! Spreading truth independent of the masses discomfort with handling cognitive dissonance.

[@jmseipp]

Why? He never ince mentions the difference between highly refined coconut oil and unprocessed, unrefined virgin coconut oil. Not very honest of him.

[@elicox4038]

I think It's important to note that the saturated fat levels in coconut milk products vary tremendously. In the nasi-lemak study, the LHF meal had a whopping 40 grams of saturated fat. However, In an 8 oz glass of coconut milk that you might find at the grocery store next to soy milk, there may only be 1-4 grams depending on the brand. (Blue Diamond, Silk, So Delicious, etc.) That is in fact, an *order of magnitude less* than the levels of saturated fat in the LHF meal. If you missed this detail, you might leave this video thinking all coconut milk is bad for you. My rule is, if it has a label, check it. Thanks for all your hard work Dr. Greger, looking forward to the next video!

[@elenna_alexia]

This is a confusion caused by the labeling of trendy dairy alternative drinks as "milk", their main ingredient being simply water. What has been called "coconut milk" for a long time prior is just the extract from coconut pulp, with water only being a minor addition to make it more liquid (without added water it's usually called "coconut cream"). The latter is about 19% fat by weight. P.S.: I would hope that you don't use the former in South Asian dishes calling for coconut milk, just as I would hope you don't use the latter as the basis for a hot chocolate or other such drink.

[@garygreenfield5969]

Thanks. I was curious about this distinction.

[@djayjp]

Don't forget it's important to look at the RATIO of fats consumed in proportion to one another. Even if you only have moderate fat intake but a good chunk of it comes from coconut or palm, that could still be bad.

[@wilsont1010]

@@djayjp You need a proper doctor if you think that saturated fat is bad, a good doctor will tell you the reverse.

[@djayjp]

@@wilsont1010 Well no, the American college of cardiology and the American Dietetics association both unequivocally state it leads to poor health outcomes and should be avoided. Ditto with the food guide pyramid.

[@spliter227]

but the study on the meal with coconut milk included EGG and FISH, hmmmm

and rice!

[@lawrencelawrence3920]

Being an avid past user of coconut oil, thinking that it was healthy, reading that it was healthy, I suffered a heart condition with high LDL levels. Since that incident I quit all oils and adopted a whole plant based diet the LDL levels dropped from 4.7 to 1.2. The coconut oil industry like the meat and diary industry promote false facts that can kill us.

[@darrenc2370]

may i ask were you using coconut oil on top of a high carb diet? Because what i learned from Dr Berg's videos is that the culprit for heart disease is high carb diet.

[@wilsont1010]

@@darrenc2370 Yes, it is an clearly a case of user problem, like a typist who blames a typewriter. The proper health marker is TRG/HDL.

[@Jgo36114]

Summary = 6:11 . You're welcome!

[@bryanenzu8579]

Mr. Go-in And then when you ask: why should you avoid it? You've got no freaking idea. You may as well say: because someone said so

[@ranamohammad6515]

Wow thanks a lot 👍

[@turbonbc]

No offence but lab studies are not going to convince me to not eat coconut flesh or consume coconut water or yoghurt because for years it has made me feel absolutely amazing and refreshed. Not going to listen to a doctor that lives in a box behind a computer screen and lab studies that has little first hand real world experience. I'll stick to listening to nature and people that been living healthy and consuming coconuts for thousands of years and real healers that actually save lives and cure people.

[@SayuriYaki]

Ah, damnit ^^ I just love coconut milk in my curry.

[@survivormary1126]

Don't think the milk is the same as Coconut Oil, and why not just add some fiber :)

[@KrwiomoczBogurodzicy]

03:57 - MCTs, “(…) a small amount of saturated fat in your diet-roughly 5 percent of your total intake-is not only acceptable but also advised. A great healthy source of saturated fat is coconut, which also delivers medium-chain triglycerides (MCTs). These shorter chains of fats are easily digested and deliver many health benefits, such as improving brain and memory function, increasing energy and endurance, lowering blood sugar and cholesterol levels, and encouraging weight loss.” - Matt Frazier & Robert Cheeke, _The Plant-Based Athlete_ (foreword by Dr Greger) Wondering if Dr Greger approves of this message.

[@tnijoo5109]

Wow! That’s crazy! It’s a bummer he doesn’t respond to questions in the comment section. It would be awesome if he did.

[@tnijoo5109]

I had to rewatch the video and I’m still confused on if coconuts are okay or not, if it’s just mainly coconut milk and coconut oil to avoid.

[@TheVigilantStewards]

I also would like to know, because it sounded like he said populations that eat 3 or more coconuts a week are shown to have higher risk. When we are in the tropics, we use it a lot to cook and drink the fresh coconut milk etc. Maybe 1 a day per person. I thought fresh coconuts did not cause any harm, but it sounds like in this video he said that they did.

[@botzer8817]

@@tnijoo5109 Coconuts are ok because it contains proteins and fibers, milk is a bit worse but still ok in moderation, oil should be avoided if possible

[@tnijoo5109]

@@botzer8817 thank you!

[@MADGUNSMONSTER]

It's so depressing to hear anything negative about coconuts. One day something is touted as good for you, the next it's debunked. I'm going on a spring water and dirt only diet. See you on the other side.

[@froesesp]

MADGUNS FOREVER™ All processed oil is bad for you. Eat the food, not the macronutrients.

[@StillTrustNo1]

it depends on your sources. If you've listened to Greger, then Coconut oil has always been bad. - And if you've listened to some other then refined in general is bad. And of course others say its the most healthy thing on the planet. Its all about the sources you listen to and how based in science they are.

[@MADGUNSMONSTER]

lightdark00 The Forest Air only diet. I'm down to try it if you are!

[@MADGUNSMONSTER]

StillTrustNo1 The Health & Wellness community is ALWAYS at odds with each other. I feel like the child of divorced parents, I'm being pulled in two directions. You have several people you trust but they have different positions. I'm a fan of Dr. Josh AXE and he is pro Coconut oil. I'm done, spring water and dirt only diet. Hydration from the water, minerals from the dirt should be enough.

[@StillTrustNo1]

Doodle... The man is reciting science ... if you have science to refute the claims, then by all mean post it. If not then who is the real idiot? And just because smoking is less toxic than living in a nuclear reactor, doesn't mean that smoking is healthy. Your argument is silly at best.

[@erinsalmon5764]

Diet is probably a very big factor. If the study was conducted on people who ate mainly a plant based only diet, the outcome with the coconut milk would have changed and caused no effect on health. These people probably ate tons of eggs and fish the day before the study or high sugar foods. When you mix a high sugar diet with a high fat diet, you may see detrimental side effects on health.

[@shaneashby5890]

Coconut milk in my protein shakes GONE. Coconut milk kefir Gone. Dried shredded coconut flakes in my morning porridge Gone. Damn you Dr. Michael Greger Damn you!!!!!!!!

[@Olibelus]

Isn't it fair to conclude that ANY oil and ANY type of fat, when eaten excessively and regularly, are detrimental to human health?

[@bagiee1]

Yes...thats why we avoid oils, and eat nuts in moderation.

[@kenpataky]

Absolutely. That is his stance, here and elsewhere...and it makes perfect sense, as edible oil doesn't occur in nature.

[@hamerful]

so what if it doesn't occur in nature?

[@queeniebaggins3732]

Kynario well said 👍

[@Limemill]

Do you want a bet? I bet you that this guy here will next expose nuts for their adverse health effects. Then he will proceed to avocados. Then to anything else containing any fat. Then he will scrape enough evidence from one-time studies to support any claim against any plant product and will snigger at all the people he initially told the vegan diet was healthy struggling to come up with a diet that would keep them full and will not debilitate their mental abilities. :)

[@Fritzanomus62988]

"No Oil!" -Esselstyn

[@ms3er396]

@J32P You don't need oil to cook food. If you want to caramelize onions and have them sweet and tasty, just add a few tablespoons of apple juice. You can brown with water, veg. broth, etc. too. Air fry in a convection oven too.

[@sielukettu]

@J32P yup water is good!

[@shauntelgill9384]

coconut is a plant stop talking about coconut oil and talk about coconut milk a coconut a whole coconut is a good food to consume i dont think its bad for you

[@jmseipp]

I use VIRGIN Coconut Oil in much of my cooking and I have low cholesterol and low blood pressure! Dr. Gregor never once mentions the difference between highly refined coconut oil and unrefined virgin coconut oil. How come? Vegan Dr. Michael Klapper does the same with his youtube video attacking ALL olive oil. He never once mentions the very big difference between highly refined olive oil and organic extra virgin olive oil. What’s with these guys?! How can those of us who know how to think take them seriously?!

[@yurjhr1662]

We dont do the oil, but we do coconut milk,water, and shreds. Curry, oatmeal, and I LOVE coconut shreds with chocolate. ❤❤

[@JokerLurver]

I've written off oil, but I enjoy a sprinkle of coconut flakes in a batch of cookies or coconut milk in an infrequent curry. I still have some old oil I used to bake with, and now I put some in my hair before a shower and the results are amaaaaaazing. Cheap af stuff for such a wonderful outcome.

[@guitarlearningtoplay]

It says in Pukapuka/Tokelau study that “Vascular disease is uncommon” and “there is no evidence of harmful effects in these populations.” Why leave that out??

[@Krumpina1029]

I thought they mentioned it at the start. Didn't they say they consume whole coconuts not coconut oil. Btw, I'm not against coconut oil. I love it and consume far less of other saturated fats so I can have more coconut oil.

[@Joefest99]

The most divisive issue on the vegan scene.

[@IvanBFit]

very intriguing video unlike others who get torn up by this conflicting information it's enlightening for me. what about coconut flakes or coconut meat in moderation? and we're talking about raw unadulterated fresh coconut meat what about coconut flakes or coconut meat in moderation​. I'm also a little leery of coconut meat being hazardous since it is a whole food plant-based food source. I always thought it was the Silver Lining of saturated fat if there were a silver lining. I've always read the MCT content was about 62 to 63% in coconut oil so this is new information and I will fact check the studies listed in this video. I'm not advocating high consumption of coconut products but certainly in prudent, moderate and sensible amounts, I don't see how that is a problem. and I understand the argument in this video because quite frankly not everything plant-based is good for us for example poisonous mushrooms and the like.

[@eelkeaptroot1393]

I try to only use minimal amounts of coconut oil topically, but I definitely avoid oral consumption.

[@maythecatbewithyou]

I like coconut oil just how I like olive oil... on my skin, not in my stomach :)

[@Fearzero]

Oleic acid in olive oil is life extending as it activates sirtuins.

[@AnHourOfWolves]

@@Fearzero True, olive oil has oleic acid, and oleic acid is beneficial, AND there are sources of oleic acid that don't include highly-refined oil, such as nuts, seeds, olives, and avocados. Skip the oil and eat the whole foods! :)

[@ClassicCartoonsNL]

Thank you for this video. It contains tons of good information.

[@guitarlearningtoplay]

The fact that you say fiber of the whole coconut can reduce cholesterol het you show a study that disproves that! It says that their high intake of whole coconut causes their high cholesterol, it’s not reducing the cholesterol!

[@wilsont1010]

The proper health indicator is TRG/HDL, coconut helps to lower triglycerides and increase HDL. If you have been using PUFA for many many years, your LDL will rise initially due to be more firefighters have to get to work to repair your body caused by chronic inflammations, it will gradually subside and your LDL level will be lowered eventually.

[@kizryuver]

​​@@wilsont1010 thanks! Can you share the source of the information? I'd like to study it more.

[@Scorp1u5]

Thank you for this, as I asked about this w.r.t rice and coconut milk. But the video starts out with some pretty mixed impressions of coconut milk, then devolves into coconut oil bashing. I am thinking that coconut _milk_ is, still, though not "ideal", "not bad" and is at most a yellow and not a red. I'm fine with oil being red as I don't ever encounter it. But I do prefer the coconut milks and ice creams to all the others.

[@AnHourOfWolves]

In the video he talks about a study done in Singapore with three meals, and it was a coconut milk meal that was equally as bad as the McDonald's meal. I had a look at the nutritional profile of canned coconut milk and it looks like there's about 50g of fat per cup! That is holey-moley a lot of fat in a cup of liquid. That's about 3.5 tablespoons of coconut oil with no fiber... Have you tried nice cream? I used to like that Trader Joe's coconut chocolate ice cream, but the banana-made nice cream is actually easily as good!

[@dietaesalute]

After only 6 days of coconut my dad's dementia improved, he went back to brushing his teeth alone, something he hadn't been able to do for 6 months, he also participated in conversations, he managed to walk and move better, even though his posture is not yet completely correct, it's much better. And can talk properly, while in the last week he had started to talk with nonsens sentences, and he started smiling again, whilie in the last 6 months he was alwasy depressed

[@NamFlow]

I call bollocks

[@dwoh4345]

@@NamFlow a cocconut can have about half of it being MCT if you make it from the right part of the cocconut, mct oil research shows good effect in people with alzheimers her dad might be a person that responds quite well to MCT since his problem might be one more alleviated by mct, so yes saturated fat treating alzheimers seems fully real

[@ThatManAnt]

Ok, I've been plant based for about a year now and love it. I've also been an athlete my whole life so obviously it took me a bit to get over protein. I compete in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and lift often. Studies have shown that saturated fat does help with strength a lot of the time. I like to experiment on myself, especially diet-wise to see if my performance rises or dips depending on what I've been eating. When I include coconut in my diet (I love anything coconut) i feel stronger and better. I don't use coconut oil... just milk for curries or flakes for toppings/smoothies. I get saturated fat is saturated fat, same molecules. So is this ultimately a trade off? Strength and performance for a couple years off my life vs. Less strength and performance? Also, being a plant is there no polyphenol or antioxidant (i know its not a dark color) content? Nothing beneficial on that end, not just looking at fiber and stuff? Thanks doc, love your stuff.

[@tnijoo5109]

These are good questions. I hope someone answers.

[@simonspethmann8086]

Actually, I just found some studies suggesting that saturated fats differ same as unsaturated fats and carbs, i.e. they can have different lengths molecules and these affect the body differently. 🤔 Came here to find out what the plant based community had to say on that, but it's all just inconclusive studies (samples include coconut plus eggs, which ... 😑) presented less well than I expected from here. 😔 So, I guess: go have your coconut. 🙂

[@djayjp]

This whole video is about how there are different kinds of saturated fats lol

[@dwoh4345]

dude look at greger he looks like a goblin but is like only 50, you need to do what feels best which is eating cocconut its not gonna take ANY years of your life

[@djayjp]

@@dwoh4345 I think he looks amazing and I follow the science.

[@LAKSHMIANGELES]

GREETINGS, I'M A VERY HEALTHY VEGAN ISLANDER FROM THE CARIBE AND I'VE BEEN CONSUMING COCONUT ALL MY LIFE IN ALL FORMS... FRESH COCONUT WATER, COCONUT MILK, COCONUT PULP (BOTH THE SOFT & THE HARD) AND THE COCONUT OIL IN FOODS, ALL THESE PRETTY MUCH EVERY DAY - NOTHING FRIED THOUGH. MY ORGANS ARE ALL SUPER HEALTHY, PERFECT LAB RESULTS, ETC. *I COULDN'T LIVE WITHOUT COCONUTS!* BLESSINGS ✌💚 PS, BY THE WAY I LOVE YOUR BOOKS AND THE DAILY DOZEN APP WHICH I FOLLOW ALONG WITH MY COCONUT.🤗

[@noboilfrog9431]

Shame there's no mitigation study, that shows I can still eat foods cooked in coconut oil if I've exceeded my RDA of fiber!

[@tara9389]

I would love to see what he eats in a day/week

[@looppooper2306]

Look up the daily dozen

[@leowvm6215]

Dr Greger...what is your take on consumption of fresh coconut milk vs cooked coconut milk ? Is cooked coconut milk more harmful? Thank you.

[@TheHomeImprovementChannel]

What about shredded coconut flakes (1 tbsp or 2/day)?? Still the whole coconut?

[@kout31]

That's fine.

[@charleshorseman55]

Lauric acid is literally a medium chain fatty acid.

[@vahkurama]

But what are we talking about here it's not clear if its hydrogenated coconut oil, or organic unrefined virgin coconut oil, this is very important

[@Gypsy1194]

Very much so.

[@shauntelgill9384]

Hi everyone I just want to say this this video doesn't make any sense coconuts are a plant it's a type of plant a fruit and as such does have vitamins and minerals you can't just look at the cholesterol in coconut and assume that it's very unhealthy or it's going to cause a negative reaction to your body what I think about coconut milk is that it's very all natural and has many benefits to say that coconut is bad is very stupid so we are all supposed to stop drinking coconut water which is found in coconut and we're supposed to stop and stop making coconut milk which is where you take the flesh of coconut and blend it up with water to make coconut milk what is wrong with having a coconut drinking coconut water or drinking coconut milk it exists in nature I say coconut is natural it grows out of the ground Anything Grows out of the ground and is a fruit then I say it is natural you can have it you can you can consume coconut once in awhile you don't have to make it the center of your diet but coconut is fine in occasional moments.

[@Az-jt2zp]

Hey Dr Gregor, I've been searching through your videos but I can't find a video related to this - But if we did want to use a tiny bit of oil, for perhaps frying off some onions for the base of a curry or a stir-fry on occasion, what is the best oil we should use? It seems like all oil is bad... so whats the best of the worst if we want to use a very tiny bit? Would it be possible to do a comparison video like you did for sugar (sooo helpful!) Thank you!

[@susanb1394]

Azharul Chowdhury obviously I’m not Dr. Gregor but how about olive oil, avocado oil, walnut oil, or macadamia nut oil? Some of them are very good on salads or sautéed with vegetables.

[@looppooper2306]

@@susanb1394 yes, but you don't want to stir fry with those because they get burned. I'm also curious about the best oil to stir fry with.

[@donregister4904]

Loop Pooper , i’m using avocado oil as it has a high burn point, is mild tasting, relatively inexpensive if you buy it at Costco, and I have not heard that it’s been adulterated like olive oil .

[@cheezheadz3928]

He isnt going to recommend an oil because not only is it unhealthy, it's unnecessary.

[@backyardsausage]

They're all bad to varying degrees, and simply not part of an ideal weekday diet, but I, like you want to fry up some onions for a classic recipe sometimes. In general the more extra-virgin the oil the better. Among the high temp flavourless oils i would go for canola because its high in omega-3 fatty acids. It's still inflammatory but not as much compared to others.

[@enriquepadilla2542]

Major problem. Higher LDL levels arent bad. Not at all. It is the ratio of LDLs to LDL particulates. So high LDL levels arent a problem unless your particulate numbers are also high. So if you have very few particulates and high LDL then you shouls be safe But if you have high LDL and and high particulate count, (each LDL particle is small) then you have high risk

[@Vibestr]

The first study you cited on the Polynesian tribe that consumes 60% of its diet from coconut concludes that "there is no evidence of high saturated fat intake having a harmful effect". The inhabits had 0 risk of heart disease. Coconut oil is mainly medium chain, nearly 65-70%. You made the assumption that Lauric acid is long chain when it is medium chain. While it has an overall rising effect on cholesterol, it decreases the ratio of TC:HDL which is a good thing. Moreover, stating LDL is bad isn't quite accurate. There are two types of LDL (small and large) and the studies that show coconut raising LDL do not indicate it raising the harmful type. Edit: I'd also like to add that you're just regurgitating information spread by the AHA, the same organization that used to promote margarine.

[@thinkingoutloud3757]

Thank you. I just made a similar comment in how the vegan crowd consistently and conveniently ignores that the conversation is now about cholesterol subclasses (sdLDL, apoB) and Triglyceride counts. We're well beyond just "total LDL."

[@jefflebowski918]

I love how all the coconut oil fanatics say not to use canola oil because it's toxic and GMO, the science proves otherwise. 4:53 6:07

[@Liliquan]

Since when has any popular belief been supported by scientific evidence.

[@2006017637]

Surprised how low the quality of evidence was accepted in this video. Coconut powder, for example: The study comparing endotelial function had 3 or more variables (rice, for example) confounded with coconut powder. One can't even tell from this study that there is an association between coconut powder and endotrlial function. And even in the studies which show association, they stopped there. It's important to consider that when you prescribe something based on association, it may lead to people doing worse options (like going back to soy or corn oils).

[@Dirgis-66]

Dear Dr. Greger, is there any help for ppl with histamin intolerance? I miss my tomatoes, spinach and nuts so much. Thanks

[@smudge8882]

If it helps at all, people with histamine intolerance can have: pistachios, Brazil nuts, and pecans. They can also have pumpkin seeds, flax seeds, chia seeds, and hemp seeds, along with other squash seeds like butternut squash seeds. Also, most of the time a histamine intolerance is caused by the underlying condition Mast Cell Activation Syndrome. There are ways to treat it too, so I'd recommend getting tested. (Note that it is newly discovered so not all doctors are the most knowledgeable about it - blood tests routinely have false negatives so it's best to ask to do a 24-hour urine sample, which gives much more accurate results).

[@rod7407]

as you have pointed out MCT oil is not the same as coconut oil. I wish you had given more insight as to whether MCT oil is beneficial given it does not have the high saturated fat composition in coconut oil. There is significant research on neurodegenerative benefits of MCT oils as well as improving metabolism.

[@wilsont1010]

MCT oil is refined oil while coconut oil can be unrefined. You can try it yourself or most importantly it to get yourself a proper doctor if he/she has been telling you that saturated fat is bad. A clear sign that you have been throwing your good money away in the past.

[@TheVigilantStewards]

This video raises a big question: Are fresh coconuts , soft coconut flesh, and fresh coconut milk unhealthy? When I was in Kenya I ate one a day and loved them, great to cook with.

[@wilsont1010]

If you are confused, get yourself a good doctor, dont throw your money away. Coconut oil is the healthiest compared to olive and butter in many studies including the Cambridge University 2018 which was carried out on human subjects.

[@guitarlearningtoplay]

Coconut Embryo? Sprouted coconut?

[@susanb1394]

Another good video. Although I buy coconut oil, I use it on my skin only. It’s a fantastic moisturizer!

[@wilsont1010]

It is high time you change to a good doctor who is not 50 years outdated. Dont throw away your money.

[@olaoluwadebA]

@ 1:09 if you read the above text before the highlighted line, it mentions that Fish is their chief source of protein. Perhaps, the high cholesterol could be coming from Fish, rather than the Coconut Oil they're consuming.

[@fitnessbypriscillaofficial]

Dr. Greger, thank you for this information.

[@Charlie-502]

You are so beautiful

[@Thebrownsfamily5]

U8yho

[@elsjemassyn8921]

So the meat dairy and eggs consumption although low intake gets ignored and the coconut gets the blame for the cholesterol ?

[@Bettertodaybettertomorrow]

I love Dr. Greger. It is amazing the depth and complexity of his work, he seems to dig deeper and make more connections than most doctors I have ever followed. I truly appreciate you Dr. Greger for your contribution to humanity. Thank you.

[@thinkingoutloud3757]

Try the doctors interviewed on High Intensity Health channel if you want real depth. These vegan doctors are a joke and a decade behind on where the research is really at.

[@DrReginaldFinleySr]

@@thinkingoutloud3757 Can you point to something in particular that he said that shows he's 10 years behind? Thanks.

[@jameslong289]

@@DrReginaldFinleySr Don't listen to him, he/she is just talking out of their ass. Doctor Gregor shows you the studies (which anyone can easily look up on pub med) all of which are the LATEST available. As a matter of fact, he does NOT even make a video (or any publications on his website) unless the studies he's going over is backed by HUMAN trials (and not rats/other animals) with statically significant data (unlike many other doctors especially on youtube). By far his research is far superior to anything else I've come across.

[@alanredversangel]

I've had a tablespoon of coconut oil in my coffee every morning for 2-3 years now. Blood tests: Fine, ECG: Fine.

[@eugeniebreida]

Why add it?

[@annwilliams6438]

And you are eating a keto diet and need the oil and coffee to even be able to go to the loo without busting your butt to get your clogged up insides cleared? Please do have a cancer screen included into your annual blood test so that you can pick up your gut/stomach cancer early enough for it not to kill you. Also have a colonoscopy every two to three years to catch polyps etc.

[@nse1ites]

And yet, there will still be those few who will continue to preach about it like the fountain of youth. sigh.

[@shauntelgill9384]

coconut milk is healthy i love my curry coconut

[@susanb1394]

I think it is the fountain of youth for one’s skin. I use it as a moisturizer and I love it! But I don’t consume it.

[@jmseipp]

I use VIRGIN Coconut Oil in much of my cooking and I have low cholesterol and low blood pressure! Dr. Gregor never on e mentions the difference between highly refined coconut oil and unrefined virgin coconut oil. How come? Vegan Dr. Michael Klapper does the same with his youtube video attacking ALL olive oil. He never once mentions the very big difference between highly refined olive oil and organic extra virgin olive oil. What’s with these guys?! How can those of us who know how to think take them seriously?!

[@justice8473]

What if you put the lime in the coconut and drink 'em bot' up?

[@syrum8508]

Please do an indepth video on intermittent fasting and also ketogenic diets. Seems to be a big craze these days.

[@kg4tri]

What about Coconut water

[@ep5036]

Jim Newman that's what I am wondering too. Since the video states that even eating whole coconuts raises cholesterol then I assume that this means avoid all coconut products including coconut water.

[@bagiee1]

I have read that coconut water from young coconuts is the best...but not so good when the coconut is ripe....but dont know how accurate is that.

[@johzuke1]

I can't believe what I'm reading! Coconut water is basically sugar water with some minerals and phytonutrients. No it doesn't raise your LDL but has the same blood sugar spike issues as processed sugar.

[@xxnotmuchxx]

Jim Newman i think coconut water is thw healthiest water

[@Aentium]

Coconut water has no saturated fat but it doesn't have any fiber while having sugar so it's not very healthy either

[@philadams9254]

1:19 - you say EKGs while highlighting ECG? Error?

[@dameonjones9403]

Phil Adams ekg and ecg is the same thing.

[@eugeno2742]

What about coconut water from fresh coconuts?

[@veganinwonderland5602]

Eugen O if you are concerned about artery function and cholesterol then it's totally fine and good to consume . It's got many electrolytes (base chemistry minerals ) and it's water so there's no fat . Some say that it's got the other side that is bad and that is sugar . " it's bad such as juices and other sugary drinks bc of the effect on blood sugar levels " - I say that it's a bit bullcrap because the sugars are simple , like in also fruits and thus used by the body very very fast for energy or is stored as glycogen . The blood sugar may rise but it's also stabilized . There are people and fruitarian ma who are fasting on coconut water for weeks and got no problem+ they lose weight .If one has a problem with sugar metabolism then they should fix their adrenals and not blame the carbohydrates - the carbon but their self .

[@Limemill]

peaches Hold on! Just give this guy a couple more weeks, he will find enough studies to prove to you that coconut milk is what Satan drinks for breakfast instead of babies' blood

[@veganinwonderland5602]

peaches electrolytes are minerals ( only the base ( alkaline ) minerals )

[@aeioucoltello96]

what about the change in the cholesterol's particle size and number after the consume of coconut products? they're important too, and it's quite negligent to ignore everything but the total level of cholesterol I suppose.

[@thinkingoutloud3757]

It's really fascinating how the non-keto vegan crowd seems to conveniently ALWAYS refuse to acknowledge that the heart disease discussion is now beyond just "total bad cholesterol" (LDL-C) and has gotten much more specific and varied into Triglyceride count and cholesterol subclasses (sdLDL, apoB). This is the critical piece that it seems the vegan crowd is ALWAYS conveniently ignoring.

[@csoto300]

If you look at the last article cited in the video, where it lists coconut oil, it states that there are no prospective studies or randomized controlled trials for cardiovascular disease outcomes. Even the article he mentions about coconut milk and vascular disease is a cross-sectional study based on questionnaires and self-reports. So we don't have good evidence for disease outcomes regarding consumption of coconut products. And disease outcomes are what ultimately matters. Having a high lipid profile in the setting of inflammation (from animal product consumption) may not result in the same outcomes as having a high lipid profile in the absence of inflammation (from coconut product consumption).

[@caglardersim1475]

Coconut oil won‘t harm you unless you cook with it.

[@liveturtle]

so high HDL is bad or not?? I thought HDL and LDL was a protein and had nothing to do with the levels of true cholesterol - what the heck! I thought saturated fat (from coconut) was now thought to be fine and the other oils like canola, corn, veg. was BAD..... COME ON - How about we stop listening to "studies" and just eat HEALTHY real FOOD FOOD. Eggs from your own chickens, coconut milk you make... ect. It takes my 16 yr old son about 8 minutes to make me coconut milk. Then we dehydrate the bag and have flour!! And we coconut oil for EVERYTHING.... CRAP!! I do have high cholesterol !!! What about "the cholesterol myth"

[@zumretazumi2764]

There are new studies out there, comparing virgin coconut oil with MCT on humans. The results for cholesterol levels were the same. So VCO is comparable with MCT!

[@-johnny-deep-]

Where can I find the source references for all the charts and studies shown in this video?

[@arkrainflood]

is coconut milk a better creamer than dairy? powdered creamers? what is the healthiest creamer?

[@maythecatbewithyou]

Better than dairy, but no creamer is healthy. If you have it from time to time, it likely won't harm you, but this channel is about what the healthiest diet possible is. Following the advice 90% of the time will put you ahead of most people already...

[@breezyveezy1]

I use coconut cream and cinnamon instead of dairy and don't plan on going back. A little fat is needed in the diet regardless of what some say.

[@Aentium]

Breezy D fat is needed yes, but you should ingest the best type of fat if you can, don't you think? So avoid saturated fat and trans fat

[@maythecatbewithyou]

I don't think anyone says no fat is needed. The point they are trying to make is for whole foods. So that would be nuts and seeds (flax seeds!!), but even oatmeal and a lot of grains and legumes have between 3 and 10 % fat.

[@enjacku]

He did a video years ago on creamer in coffee and tea. And basically even soy proteins block some of the healthy stuff in tea and coffee. Coconut it seems isn't the best for artery function. Better with no creamer at all.

[@fifteenbyfive]

The organic coconut oil I've been buying says it's 62% MCTs right there on the tub. You can read in website after website that coconut oil is around 60% MCTs. So what's the deal? Now we're saying that it's only 10%? 16/92 =/= 10%. Isn't Lauric acid a MCT?

[@fifteenbyfive]

Replying to myself, I get it how Carbon-12 Lauric acid likely raises serum cholesterol more than shorter chain fatty acids like Caprylic acid (with a Carbon chain length of 8) which frequents "MCT oils" like "Brain Octane" and "Eight" oil. As for cholesterol, I get the message being conveyed here. But as for the production of Ketones for the brain, which fatty acids are best for this? Is C8 better than C12? Is extra virgin coconut oil as good as Brain Octane, not as good, or even better, for this purpose? Or is there not enough data to even speculate? A followup to this video that answers for this specifically would be awesome. While I'm at it, is C6 better than C8? What about C10? Is an "MCT" oil with a combination of these shorter chain fatty acids better than a pure C8 oil?

[@nigel4154]

You can buy pure MCT oil i believe

[@fifteenbyfive]

"Brain Octane" and "Eight" for examples which are 100% Caprylic acid. But if someone made an oil that was 100% Lauric Acid, by convention we'd call that an MCT oil as well. This C12 acid is why coconut oil gets a good reputation for being rich in MCTs. I see "62% MCTs" printed on popular organic brand packages from Amazon. That 62% includes mostly Lauric acid which has been shown to raise serum cholesterol dramatically in tests.

[@Rain_Wavez]

Are these studies done on raw or cooked coconut oil

[@Rain_Wavez]

@IGF-None thanks but that doesn't answer my question

[@OakHawkMoth]

How about the external use of coconut oil?

[@chelseyummali]

So you mentioned oil manly and coconut milk "powder" but what about organic bpa free canned coconut milk? I love using this in banana ice cream or smoothie or to make a chick pea curry. Id love thoughts on these? doesnt coconut milk contain the meat as they are blended. So would it not contain the fiber as well? I tried to make my own at home. I was not successful haha

[@kurapikakurta3863]

no. Coconut milk doesn't contain any fiber at all. Coconut milk is made through squeezing out the milk from the shredded coconut meat kzbin.info/www/bejne/qGTWdZudh5eGj6s

[@bryanc.5463]

Only half of people with heart disease have high LDL levels. There’s a very limited correlation between LDL and heart disease. As a matter of fact, low HDL and high triglycerides are much more associated with heart disease.

[@wilsont1010]

Yes the proper health indicator is TRG/HDL, coconut oil lowers triglycerides and raises HDL.

[@philadams9254]

Can you make some videos on arsenic in rice?

[@Sonia-zq9ek]

LOL

[@Chris-MusicTheoryAndFretboard]

California rice has less arsenic due to government regulations implemented by the EPA.

[@notrappaport5340]

nutritionfacts.org/?fwp_search=arsenic+rice&fwp_content_type=video

[@yuppers1]

You can use California brown rice or cook using the "pasta method" - it actually makes the best rice anyway: www.saveur.com/perfect-brown-rice-recipe

[@SuperVt100]

When you stand under a coconut tree and the coconuts are ripe and falling from the tree, you could get hurt by the coconuts falling from the tree.

[@timeless4369]

Yeah that's the only harm that coconut can have on someone.

[@irvpaton8626]

I love your work, but I'm still skeptical on these studies for coconut oil. I eat mostly vegan, so I was most interested in the island population who ate lots of whole coconut. They had high cholesterol, as seen in coconut oil, so it seems the distinction between whole coconut and coconut oil is not relevant. The population ate mainly plant based. So, the question is, "how long did they live?". Sounds like they lived a long time, although no data is given. It sound like they were healthy as hell (in a good way). So, that does not give me the message to stop coconut oil. Saying that coconut oil has negative effect on artery walls is not the same thing as effecting mortality. All sorts of things, like exercise, have damaging effects but reduce mortality. The new view that HDL is not protective sounds like a big deal, but I've also heard that there are different particle sizes in LDL, and some are fine and some are bad. So, if we throw out HDL, it is only fair to start including LDL particle size breakdown. Also, what about the acids in coconut oil. It seems that they have therapeutically beneficial effects. Maybe they heal more than they harm, like coffee does for old people. Somehow, deep down, I get the idea that omega-6 oil producers are threatened by coconut oil, and maybe they are biasing these studies.

"Correlation does not imply causation." High LDL-cholesterol isn't the cause of CVD. Remember that CVD is the result of an inflammatory process, not of a temporarily decreased artery function.

[@armani3762]

Why would you even want to decrease artery function...........

[@veg]

I made the biggest anti coconut oil videos in the german youtube scene 😁 It's crazy how allergic all the people react. I even got death threats!

[@davide.4258]

show us the receipts!

[@veg]

LUL

[@davide.4258]

no receipts? :(

[@LeeMaitland]

People are so desperate to be right about something, and are bias towards whatever they've already made up their mind about (think about the human egg only allowing in one sperm before closing the door). They don't know how to say 'oh, look at that, I was wrong' especially in front of all their friends, it is because they cannot tell the difference between scientists and marketing anymore and its the reason for the hostile anti-intellectualism. Shame.

[@karbsundance]

Denke ein Video über die Morddrohungen könnte ganz easy viral gehen!

[@bani5574]

Is it ok to use coconut oil as moisturizer?

[@susanb1394]

Ni Ba I have used it for a couple years and it doesn’t appear to be raising my cholesterol at all.

[@pickledbeaker5916]

What about Tahini? It's also a processed high fat plant based food. Any data/studies on that? I'm talking 100% ground whole sesame seeds with nothing added: it has 50-60 gr of fat per 100 grams of which 10 grams are saturated Guessing it's probably OK in moderation but some science would be nice

[@ezra9020]

Rgdgx Pbchfh Tahini isn't highly processed, it's just ground sesame seeds.

[@KentuckyChicken2]

its not processed really... it's 100% ground sesame seeds. Sesame oil on the other hand is processed.

[@ezra9020]

I've never seen tahini that isn't 100% sesame seeds.

[@Aentium]

Most tahini has oil added. If you have a powerful food processor and you have sesame go ahead, but don't buy it at the store unless it's 100% sesamee seeds

[@syrum8508]

Ezra yes, lots of places sell tahini which is just the sesame seeds and no oil added in my country.

[@idrissamorehouse5776]

Nice overview Doc! Appreciate the great graphics too !!

[@sarakelley3743]

This is breaking my heart

[@Patriot33AD]

Mine too 😰 I so darn love coconut anything ! Although for five yrs am not so fan of the oil. Rather have coconut anytime over any thing Soy products ever 🤢 👎

[@christined2495]

Darn I drink turmeric milk every night with turmeric, almond milk, pepper, and a 1/2 tsp of organic coconut oil to absorb the turmeric. It helps me sleep, and good for my inflammation...

[@eugeniebreida]

Almond milk has fat in it, but maybe chew an almond or two in addition?? for even more fat. That would be MUCH more healthful than coconut oil. Just a thought!

[@theruggedindoorsman]

The Jedi mind trick of brushing by the fact that the traditional meal had a whole egg in it. This is why I have trouble trusting Dr. G 100% even though I like a lot of his work.

[@CryingFre]

What a simplistic analysis. I guess he hasn't heard of particle size being more important than the LDL vs HDL hypothesis.

[@SueMoseley]

This argument relies on the underlying assumption that high cholesterol is the cause of heart disease. The research coming out now suggests that cholesterol levels are not the problem, but that it is inflammation caused by high blood glucose levels that is the cause of heart disease. A response to this argument being put forward by the low carb community would be appreciated.

[@TorbLlorts]

it seems it does. But it also seems that if you lower carbs to 20% and go high fat, your body can manage that low blood sugars, mainly cause they come from greens with fibers and phitonutrients , and for some reason you seem to have more energy. Id really want to know which is the best way to go myself really, because im testing myself and i don't seem to do well with high carbs, at all

[@SueMoseley]

Well it doesn't for everyone. My guess would be that it depends on your carb tolerance - how your body copes with carbs.

[@SueMoseley]

I think testing your own body's response is the way to go. Not everyone's body responds in the same way and low carb definitely works for maintaining good blood sugar control. A high starch diet was disastrous for me in that respect.

[@TorbLlorts]

I guess adaptation comes into play as well, no matter from which side you switch. Anyway, im trying to really find the truth abotu this because i make a living giving advice to ppl. Some dr's say that cholesterol raises dont matter at all as long the ratio between hdl and ldl is balanced. They seem to have research to back it up so, maybe after all this channel is flawed.

[@SueMoseley]

I don't think any one source of information has everything right, so I think it's just a matter of looking at the research yourself and coming to your own conclusions. I was all set to launch a site devoted purely to the low fat, plant based lifestyle and then I discovered my retinas had been damaged by the high blood sugar levels caused by eating so much starch, and a friend of mine died of a heart attack while eating a whole food, plant based diet that should have made him 'heart attack proof'. I put the site on a back burner while I did more research and I will launch eventually simply documenting what I have done diet wise, why I did it, and the results I've had. I will also link to various bits of research and let people make up their own minds.

[@Noelciaaa]

so the only study on coconut milk presented was the one where eggs and anchovies were present and the one where we don't know why eating it few times a week raised the risk? it's logical all oil isn't good but i'm still not so sure coconut milk is that bad. and i'd like to know for sure cause i put it in A LOT of dinners i eat.

[@daveinca2]

See the study I posted about coconut milk in my comment.

[@david522]

@@daveinca2 show me the study

[@daveinca2]

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3824402/ "Conclusions. We conclude that coconut fat in the form of CM does not cause a detrimental effect on the lipid profile in the general population and in fact is beneficial due to the decrease in LDL and rise in HDL." (CM = Coconut Milk)

[@david522]

@@daveinca2 so coconut milk and coconut is safe to consume, given that it's homemade and not processed? But what about the saturated fat content in it, does it not clog arteries?

[@daveinca2]

Yes, I think the processing of coconut oil might be the issue. It's a small study, so more research is needed, but these results are certainly not what would be expected since coconut milk still has saturated fat. I hope more research will be done.

[@SherrickDuncan]

Next video will be titled Dr Greger goes forest air only Breathairian and grows back all his hair and his skin turns bronze and muscles appear.

[@edbauerfit]

Thank you as always Dr. Greger!

[@eatyogreens4657]

So adding 5/10 grams of shredded coconut on top of my Oats in the morning will give me Heart disease🤔 I feel like these videos are very informative but will create a lot of anxiety around food & stress people out

[@TheFrankissofine]

shredded coconut = whole plant food = healthy

[@peterkuskis3825]

Not that you would, but if you had to choose an appropriate oil to go along with a ketogenic diet, what would you choose as the least damaging? Is Extra Virgin Olive better? How about avocado oil? Would that be your best choice?

[@James-zr1lu]

So are whole coconuts bad?

[@James-zr1lu]

Doodle Master Why? Video says it raises cholesterol. 300 calories = 26g saturated fat!

[@kenpataky]

Not as bad as oil/milk of coconut and should be eaten in moderation (the other two, avoid).

[@StillTrustNo1]

+James.. You saw the science in the video... do you really need more to know that its unhealthy? If you're selling a product that raises cholesterol in that way its "officially wrong"(no gov. funding) to claim that its healthy in advertisements - It is so for a reason... Arguing that smoking 3 cigarettes is more healthy than smoking 6 is not a scientific argument for health - even if its true.

[@risafey]

Yeah, I'm curious about whole, too. He went on about coconut milk and oil, but seemed to forget to answer about whole coconut specifically and left it vaguely unanswered. It sort of got forgotten, and there were those two studies where it was healthy, then "mostly coconuts" unhealthy (but I would think eating only mostly bananas, or mostly rice, or mostly anything would also be bad). What I'm wondering is, what's too much, and what's "ideal" (or the upper limit)?

[@jacobnunya808]

I'm honestly not sure. He seemed to imply it wasn't...

[@BensCoffeeRants]

Pretty sure it's fine and a good replacement for less healthy oils, like anything you don't want to overdo it and have 80% coconut in your diet. I've read saturated fat and cholesterol may not even be linked to negative heart health / cardiovascular disease. I'm pretty sure unrefined coconut oil is about 40 MCTs isn't it? I'm reading on Wiki That lauric acid actually affects the good cholesterol?

[@N8DGR8]

Those levels of cholesterol were not that bad for 63% of their freegin diet being coconuts.

[@shauntelgill9384]

I dont think coconut milk is bad I personally like to make make curry with it and rice and peas

[@Arishu666]

But chocolate with coconut flakes are so delicious ):

[@Ella.L.]

Joshua Metzner And you can still eat it - in moderation (that's my opinion)

[@raphaelgluck6920]

peaches i'm vegan, but I drink coconut milk daily. Is That ok?

[@anavazquez4518]

@@raphaelgluck6920 I'm vegan as well, is not fair for us to hear thar hahaha;-(

[@raphaelgluck6920]

@Queen Meteor the second one

[@mbaxter22]

So which oil to cook with, then?

[@susanb1394]

mbaxter22 if you are going to use an oil avocado oil is good at high temperatures. Olive oil is better at low or no temperature. Like putting it on a salad maybe.

[@mbaxter22]

@@susanb1394 Good advice...

[@paulinaszymaniak9584]

Now I'm glad I have coconut intolerance 😁

[@StevenDragoo]

What about fresh coconut water? How does it factor in? Thanks...