WHAT AN ABSOLUTE ADVENTURE! The Lord of the Rings The Two Towers (2002) Reaction (Extended Edition)

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[@evangee423]

You guys have the BEST Lord of the Rings reaction videos! Thank you for the amazing content!!!

[@TheOctobersReact]

thanks for the kind words we love this journey! cannot wait for the third!

[@Makkaru112]

Which channels have you seen react to this trilogy before? I’d like to recommend others for you since I’ve seen nearly all of them up this point.

[@BROPify]

definitely not but alright

[@TheOctobersReact]

aw yikes 😬

[@evangee423]

The third is the best! Can’t wait to see!

[@korvkioskshelvete]

Andy Serkis is the actor who plays Gollum. Andy is one of the first motion capture actors and an absolute pioneer and boss in the field. When this movie came out Gollum was considered ground breaking and fantastic. Andy has played many iconic motion capture characters. Caesar in the Planet of the Apes-trilogy, King Kong and Captain Haddock in the Tintin movie to name a few. There are no awards for motion capture at the Oscars but Andy should be awarded a lifetime achievement award for his contributions to modern film.

[@Makkaru112]

He did an awesome job T Awsomecon recently too. And he openly began live readings of The Silmarillion recently too!!

[@pabloc8808]

Serkis recently had a great live-action role as Kino Loy in the Star Wars show Andor. It's one of the very few things Star Wars got right in recent years, and although Serkis isn't part of the main cast, his character is by far one of the most memorable.

[@robertcartier5088]

I would have nominated him for Best Supporting actor for this film... epic performance!

[@pappapata]

Tru dat!👌

[@Juan_V_Herrera]

47:32 I was going to comment regarding this part, but i decided to back up your comment because it encompasses everything that was going on in my mind. Sorry for any grammar mistakes, English is not my native language.

[@aaronwolf3587]

In the books Aragorn is described as the greatest tracker of his age, more so than even the elves. That’s the idea behind him finding the leaf broach and being able to retrace what happened to the hobbits. So much in the movies seems more fantastical while it’s thoroughly explained in the books. Even with the magic of the elves. The elves say to mortals, “this is what you would call magic”. Meaning, “to you who don’t understand these things it will seem like magic”. But to them it’s just part of the natural world and part of their existence. It gives it more of a realistic feel, even though the story is clearly fantasy. And the author describes the story as a real history that has been forgotten. This is the story of how their world ended and gave way to the rise of men. Which also gives it a more historical and authentic feel, with made up functional languages and all. This writer was an intellectual beast of his day and one of the greatest storytellers ever. Just an opinion ✌️

[@melon12368]

If you play some game like Mount and Blade or other fantasy games, you will easily understand how Tracking work.

[@feanor4605]

@@melon12368 so?

[@jenniferhamels1176]

@@feanor4605 The point is, Aragorn trained as a ranger. While Legolas didn't. Legolas being an elf doesn't mean he is automatically good at tracking. Legolas specifically trained as an archer warrior not a ranger. If Legolas trained as a ranger, his tracking would be as good as Aragorn's.

[@feanor4605]

@@jenniferhamels1176 I didn't ask you

[@Lethgar_Smith]

😆@@feanor4605

[@mgentles3]

The hall of King Theoden is called Meduseld. It's also known as the Golden Hall. The heart on the sword is made of two horses (heads and curved necks) facing one another. Hama, the door warden, is one of my favorite characters though his time is short even in the book. He knows what he's doing when he allows Gandalf to keep his staff. He's loyal to the king and, despite orders, uses his own judgment, hoping Gandalf can help Theoden or at least rid them of Grima (whom he calls Wormtongue). He holds the household guard back when Grima's minions try to attack our guys. It is Hama's son, Haleth, that Aragorn speaks with at Helm's Deep when he says 'there is always hope'. Hama was killed in the fighting there.

[@Cameron5043]

And Tolkien based Meduseld on Heorot Hall in Beowulf. Took my breath away to see it in the movies!

[@mgentles3]

@@Cameron5043 He definitely took a lot from Beowulf. Tolkien is the closest I''ll come to ancient heroic myth. I had a hard time with Chlde Roland in my fairy tale book as a child, and never went deeper.

[@Cameron5043]

@@mgentles3 Tolkien will do for the ages!

[@Ottawajames]

​@mgentles3 My first thought was he lied in every word, that hoary cripple with malicious eye askance to watch the workings of his lie on mine and mouth scarce able to afford suppression of the glee that pursed and scored it's edge at one more victim gained thereby.... Child Roland to the Dark Tower Came is certainly an epic... It was Stephen King's inspiration for his Magnum Opus: The Dark Tower series.

[@jaysinjaymesbrown7819]

Of course Hama was killed by the scout before the warg attack, not at Helms Deep.

[@folcotook3049]

"Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends." - Gandalf

[@Density13]

"He's built like a wisdom tooth." That is the funniest thing I've ever heard someone say to describe a Dwarf. Loved the reaction yall and I am glad you watched the extended edition (even if it was a lot longer)

[@TheOctobersReact]

just seen this and omg yeah lol i couldn’t figure out how else to describe it lol

[@vitokorunic3761]

Theoden was masterfully introduced as a character. In a couple of minutes of screen time you see him possesed, crazed, happy, furious, and devastated by grief. Bernard Hill is a legend.

[@stevetheduck1425]

His delivery of the poem before battle is astonishing. It's a real poem originally in Old English, but Tolkein translated it and even updated it slightly, to suggest Theoden improvising a version to suit the occasion.

[@harpiyon]

That character was so good! I imagine in his youth he was a strong, smart & brave warrior & leader, someone like Boromir or Aragorn. But then Grima started poisoning his mind for years until he became just an empty shell. So satisfying to see him get his senses back, and even if he was past his prime, still leading by example, taking good decisions, riding into battle with his men. His speech before the Charge of the Rohirrim at Gondor, and his quick thinking & tactics adjustment (e.g. when the Oliphants arrived) makes me wish all leaders should be like him. Bernhard Hill was phenomenal in this.

[@MysteriaLentine]

@@harpiyonRIP BERNARD

[@xzuljinx1191]

Frodo wants to believe that Gollum can be brought back because it gives him hope that he can be brought back because he feels what the ring is doing to him.

[@TenCapQuesada]

The industrialisation of war by Saruman was Tolkien's commentary on the First World War, of which he had firsthand experience. The so-called glory and honour of battle died in the trenches, until only the horror was left. Thus, the mines and mills of Isengard.

[@AlexBadger]

indeed. Much of that war was an excuse to test out the newly created weapons.

[@BiggestDawgEver]

One of the scenes you missed in the extended version of the Fellowship of the Ring was an extended gift giving scene. In that scene the cloaks that everyone got, the dagger belts that Merry and Pippin get, Sam's elvish rope, and the Lembas bread are all discussed. In the theatrical cut all you saw was Galadriel giving Frodo the phial "the light of Elendil".

[@gregall2178]

*"...giving Frodo the phial "the light of Elendil"."* *Earendil, our most beloved star ;-)

[@rikk319]

Elendil: The father of Isildur and Anarion, who died defeating Sauron at the end of the 2nd Age. Aragorn uses his name as a battle-cry at least once in the film. Earendil: The father of Elrond and Elros, who killed Ancalagon the Black, greatest of all dragons, helped defeat Morgoth, the master of Sauron at the end of the 1st Age, and sails through space on his flying ship with a silmaril on his brow as what we call the planet Venus. Only Galadriel mentions him in the film.

[@speleokeir]

And in the book there are further gifts which they cut out of the film, partly because they shortened and changed the ending.

[@Makkaru112]

If you got to watch the extended of the first movie you definitely will notice the cloak masking as a rock bit reminding you of when Celeborn said “never before have we dressed another in the garb of our own people. May these cloaks help shield you from unfriendly eyes” everything the elves make is imbued with their lifeforce and nothing can be made the same way twice. ❤❤❤❤

[@TheOctobersReact]

yes we had to go revisit that! dang it!! it woulda been so much more fun if we would have watched kt

[@akse]

@@TheOctobersReact I think the first one has least Extended content but still some bits that are nice to see.

[@Rhodair]

aye, also how the horse riders went right past Aragorn, Gimli, and Legolas without noticing them due to the cloaks

[@DigiVixen]

Fun Fact: When Gimli is talking about Dwarf women, he's actually referencing another book series called the Chronicles of Narnia wherein the book "The Magician's Nephew", shows the creation of Narnia, in which Dwarves are actually created by springing up from the ground. @@TheOctobersReact

[@Makkaru112]

@@DigiVixen matches a bit how Aulë created the Dwarven forefathers from the earth itself. Gimli is directly related to Durin the deathless, The ultimate dwarf! And if need be the memories and essence of all other Durins could pass to him. But if there was no more bloodline directly linking any dwarf could be born with the memories of all other past Durins.

[@johnwalters1341]

At 32:40, Mr. October says, "I think Frodo has a pure heart but I think he's also very naive." In the book, Sam thought the same thing. But Frodo warns Gollum, "You swore a promise by what you call the Precious. Remember that! It will hold you to it, but it will seek a way to twist it to your own undoing...You will never get it back. But the desire of it may betray you to a bitter end. You will never get it back. In the last need, Smeagol, I should put on the Precious, and the Precious mastered you long ago. If I, wearing it, were to command you, you would obey, even if it were to leap from a precipice or cast yourself into the fire. And such would be my command. So have a care, Smeagol!" Sam looked at his master with approval but also with surprise; there was a look in his face and a tone in his voice that he had not known before.

[@arahantiusdetache5103]

Just FYI with regard to the rope coming undone at the beginning, it was 'real elvish rope'. In other words it's magical and follows the mental imperative of the user. Also the elvish rope did actually burn Gollum due to the dark influence of having the ring for 500 years.

[@candicelitrenta8890]

The horse that was acting up that Aragorn calmed down with elvish speaking, was purchased by Viggo, the one who played that character. He came to love the horse when filming and bought it.

[@TheOctobersReact]

aw that’s so cool i love that

[@juliaforsyth8332]

His real name was Uraeus and he was a Warmblood Dressage stallion. There are KZbin videos years back showing him in Dressage competitions.

[@custardflan]

"And I will die as one of them." That's an epic line from Aragorn. You'll notice he still wears Boromirs wrist guards. Remember his pledge to not let the white city fall.

[@Hulkzilla0]

This was my first LotR movie. I remember my mother buying a VHS copy of it when I was a kid. So this movie has a special place in my heart.

[@TheOctobersReact]

aw, the vhs version! oh the times!

[@robertedgar7497]

VHS ah the cood times

[@laurihavukainen7747]

It was my first as well! I just don't remember why I hadn't seen the first one.

[@AcornSmokes420]

I was 12 when this came out Damn I’m only 32 but I’m old lmao 😂

[@TheOctobersReact]

@@AcornSmokes420 only one year older than us pretty much! you’re not old!

[@CrownlessKing88]

I loved that you guys were speechless during that whole Sméagol/Gollum scene. It is really great acting. Voice acting and Motion Capture. Andy Serkis is crazy.

[@PhilBagels]

Andy Serkis is THE star of this movie. He steals EVERY scene! Motion capture and voice acting was a bit too out of the ordinary for actors at the time, but he should have been nominated for an Oscar.

[@TheOctobersReact]

he’s incredible mr october loves the music it plays when he is on the screen!

[@hobiwan9597]

Saruman's orcs are Uruk Hai and are very different than the orcs of Mordor. They are larger, stronger, have more stamina and daylight doesn't bother them. When the two groups are mixed, there is conflict between them because they serve different masters. Tolkien served in World War 1 (the Great War). He has said that Lord of the Rings is not an allegory for WWI or WWII. War is war ~ LOTR is a "war book" containing the elements of every war. It isn't based on either of our World Wars. Yet his participation in WWI was no doubt inspirational to his writing but NOT based on the events which occurred.

[@thedappermagician6905]

Just to add to your awesome info. The Uruk Hai are indeed different from Orcs. If i'm not mistaken Orcs are twisted and corrupted Elves. Uruk Hai are a blend of Human and Elf. Saurons system (inherited from his old master Morgoth/Melkor) of creating Orcs was something akin to pollution and corruption. Saruman's system built off of that polluting sorcery but introduced his own dark magical gene splicing

[@rikk319]

@@thedappermagician6905 According to the books, "uruk-hai" just means "orc folk" in the Black Speech of Mordor, but it is used to describe the biggest and strongest of the orcs, regardless of where they serve. The books describe half-orcs created from breeding orcs and humans (vile I'm sure) by Saruman, one of the many evils he committed. In the films, these half-orcs are called Uruk-Hai, which Gandalf says were created by "breeding orcs with goblin men"...which doesn't make sense, because Tolkien said orcs and goblins are the same species, just two different names for them. In the films goblins seem to be the smaller, noseless creatures in Moria...but how would breeding those little things with orcs make Uruk-Hai?

[@lordmortarius538]

@@rikk319 Orcs are Elves corrupted by Morgoth, the ones who stayed behind at Cuivienen while the rest went with Orome to Aman. They feared the great light of the Vala and stayed with what they knew, hence known as Grey Elves. Morgoth found them and captured no small number of them, twisting them with his dark will into the broken creatures we now know as Orcs. He had to do this because he couldn't create his own life, not having access to the Flame Imperishable that gives mortal beings their souls. Goblins are a mutated and degenerate form of Orc that live almost exclusively underground, such as in the Mines of Moria or the caves riddling the Misty Mountains, and are generally weaker and smaller, but in greater numbers. Uruk-Hai are a hybrid of Man and Orc, making them taller, stronger, hardier, less cowardly, and able to withstand the sunlight (which weakens Orcs and Goblins). Their only real weakness is their relatively small numbers compared to the hordes of Orcs populating Mordor.

[@ulricaandrae4381]

Omg, I’ve watched these movies soooo many times but NEVER thought about Saruman getting more grey (as Gabdalf is taking his place). Good call!

[@brymcguy1867]

Someone else has likely mentioned this but Treebeard is voiced by the name actor who plays Gimli, John Rhys-Davies. Also i believe he was actually the tallest actor of the main characters which is ironic.

[@TheOctobersReact]

that makes it so hilarious lol

[@jordinagel1184]

Ironic perhaps, but it definitely helped with shooting the movie. Dwarves are short, but still slightly taller than hobbits, which meant that John could stand next to the hobbits and be believable in size, without having to do any tricks (perspective, cgi, overlay, etc) to make him look taller than them

[@joshjames582]

"He's built like a wisdom tooth" is one of the greatest things I've ever heard about Gimli lol

[@TheOctobersReact]

but he kinda is though right? lol

[@rollomaughfling380]

31:22 "How did they not see them?" This is precisely why you watch the extended editions of movies like this when you can.

[@-Knife-]

Can't believe how good the battle of helm's deep is. Props to everyone who made this happen.

[@Makkaru112]

Did you see the dozens of hours of behind the scenes documentaries made by the cast and crew!?

[@juliaforsyth8332]

NZ Army standins.

[@MrSporkster]

21 years old, and still looks amazing today!

[@TheOctobersReact]

AGREED!

[@Makkaru112]

@@TheOctobersReactif I have to pay to become a top tier patreon member I’ll make sure you get to react to the hours long SUPER powerful and entertaining behind the scenes documentaries which also show in depth “making of” stuff as well. You’ll watch them all become family during the many years they spent together doing all three movies at the same time before any of them were released. And Peter Jackson just got access to a giant warehouse in the mountains that holds 1300 hours of extra footage which they will use to create special editions to play in theatres soon too

[@kcojco]

The extras are a MUST have imo. Not to mention the secret Oscar “skit” on one of the extended dvds

[@Makkaru112]

@@kcojcoyes. And the special Oscar given to Sméagol himself and Andy Serkis. …. Can’t spoil it. I have the links where they can watch them in full on KZbin on a playlist I have ready for them to watch from top to bottom like it was on the DVD as if they just pressed the play all button with their remote. ❤️

[@TheOctobersReact]

aw i bet that is so special! i want to see it after this for sure

[@D-Wells0203]

Love your back and forth on the character of Sméagol/ Gollum. He’s one of the most brilliantly complex characters in fantasy. But you nailed the basic internal conflict within him. The personality of Sméagol represents his better nature while Gollum shows how the ring has twisted and tortured him for more than half a millennium. In the end, you’re both right about him. Smeagol wants to serve Frodo, his new master, but Gollum only serves the ring. He’s basically a micro representation of the duality within all people. The opposite natures that are constantly at war.

[@rikk319]

You might notice another touch--Samwise is the only main character with brown eyes. Orlando Bloom has brown eyes but wore blue contacts as Legolas, but Sam's simple, humble character differs even from the other main characters in this way as well.

[@sangralknight3031]

Theodan is my favorite character in Lord of the rings, and a personal hero. Alot of people mistake why Theodan, a king, is strutting about in helms deep making grand statements about outlasting and defeating the orcs, even dismissing the concerns of Aragorn and the rest. Its actually the right thing to do. He is the king, and must be the beating heart of his men's confidence, if he dooms and glooms, his men will lose heart. The need to see him confident and strong.

[@solsirhibragusowl2221]

He tells Aragorn this. "Look at my men. Their courage hangs by a thread!" Theoden doesn't get enough credit for what he does for his people.

[@Leekle2ManE]

The thing to bear in mind with Gandalf and Saruman (and later Radaghast) is that they aren't wizards in the common sense of the term. Yes, they have have access to magic, but don't go around slinging spells. They are more akin to angelic beings than wizards of fantasy.

[@DeadlyChinchilla]

They're essentially Lesser Gods, and they're not Human despite looking like old men. They're the same species as the Balrogs. That's why Gandalf didn't want to go through the Mines of Moria, he didn't *know* for sure if he could best the Balrog in battle as they were evenly matched. But the Balrog has the advantage that they can just whip out ALL their power, meanwhile the wizards are bound to certain rules that means they can't just use their power to change whatever they want wherever. That's why Gandalfs magic is more subtle, like using the sunrise to blind the orcs at Helms Deep. He can't just magic out the result he wants in "mans" world, they have to do the bulk of the work themselves. He just gives it a push in the direction he senses is "good."

[@rikk319]

@@DeadlyChinchilla Exactly right. Tolkien may have inspired Dungeons & Dragons type wizards with his stories, but wizards in Middle-Earth aren't modern day spell casters who hurl fireballs and lightning bolts like some kind of magical superhero...they're divine guides who help the free people of Middle Earth resist the evil of Sauron.

[@SliderFury1]

Mr. October is legit on point with his theorizing. For someone who knows nothing about LOTR, your guesses about the lore are solid! Great reaction, love how long you're making them. These movies deserve it.

[@TheOctobersReact]

we really appreciate it and yes him editing these things are making him a huge fan lol he’s very much enjoying this!

[@JM-do6wc]

​@@TheOctobersReactwe can tell

[@blissfull_ignorance8454]

Tolkien personally experienced the absolute carnage and horrors of WW1 in the trench-warfare, and that effected profoundly on him and his story-writing of LotR trilogy.

[@andrew348]

Whether you believe him or not Tolkien disagreed that LOTRs was allegorical to WWI: "I cordially dislike allegory in all its manifestations, and always have done so since I grew old and wary enough to detect its presence. I much prefer history - true or feigned- with its varied applicability to the thought and experience of readers. I think that many confuse applicability with allegory, but the one resides in the freedom of the reader, and the other in the purposed domination of the author."

[@continuallyblessed44]

Gandalf waiting until morning knowing the rising sun would blind the enemy is genius.

[@Makkaru112]

He’s also a Maiar and definitely communed with Arien who protects, envelops and guides the sun(last fruit of the golden tree Laurëlin.) I’m sure in the books somewhere it stated something along the lines of how supernatural it all was & even how it wasn’t rising in the usual place or something like that. Either in the chapter itself or his other notes to which we know is still being looked through by his family and friends to this day. ❤️

[@rollomaughfling380]

@@Makkaru112 Erhm, nah. Attacking with the sun behind you is a tactic from ancient warfare all the way through aerial combat _(Dicta Boelcke.)_

[@MarcusYap]

Gandalf didn't use sorcessory to blind them. He arrived at dawn, percisely when he meant to. So the sun would rise over the hill just as they came rushing down.

[@n8v_willie]

I was a Freshman when this came out and it was a welcome escape from the previous months. We all used this movie to escape the fear and sadness. It played a huge part in my teens.

[@JM-do6wc]

Wow that was an hour and 45 minutes of pure enjoyment! Your reactions were incredible and your presentation was first class. I can hardly wait for the third movie. When this is all said and done I look forward to your playlist for I will come back to it many times!! Oh by the way you may have missed the part where Aragorn reveals that he is 87 years old.

[@TheOctobersReact]

thanks so much for that!! we love these movies! and yes so that means he can’t be full human right? idk if it told us that directly yet but we thought that’s what it coulda meant!

[@JM-do6wc]

​@@TheOctobersReacthe is one of the Dunedain. They live about twice as long as regular mortals

[@TheOctobersReact]

oh wow. i remember hearing that but didn’t put that together! thank you

[@Makkaru112]

@@TheOctobersReacttheir maximum age is 500 years old.

[@parissimons6385]

@@Makkaru112 But in Prof Tolkien's legendarium that was only possible for Elros, Elrond Half-Elven's twin brother, who chose to be a human when given the choice of kindreds (or races) to belong to. And after that first king of Numenor the lifespans of the Numenoreans, and after the fall of Numenor, the surviving Dunedain's lifespans have become shorter and shorter over the generations. Aragorn is more than 7,000 years removed from his ancestor, Elros. (But their kinship is a large part of the reason that Elrond acted as his foster-father when Aragorn was growing up in Rivendell.) So by this time their average lifespan is roughly twice that of other men, potentially about 150 years. Aragorn is a bit of a throwback, and may live longer than that (no spoilers), but nothing close to 500 years.

[@hitmanyr2kHQ]

The opening of this film is my favorite of all time. The musical score, the scenery and the voices of the characters echoing in the mountains never fails to give me chills 👍🏾

[@Lethgar_Smith]

I watch a Lord of the Rings reaction video about once a week for more than a year now so, I've seen a lot of them. You guys are knocking this out of the park! I am riveted by your reaction and insightful commentary. You're hitting all the right beats exactly where you need to. Keep it up! Very good! Excellent!

[@TheOctobersReact]

that was really kind of you to say! we love doing this and it’s really a lot of fun! thanks for the kind words and thanks for watching!

[@Lethgar_Smith]

@@TheOctobersReact

[@susanfreeman9500]

That hill in the middle of the plain surrounded by mountains is a real place in New Zealand. But as it is part of a nature reserve, the film crew had to save the ground cover before they built the village. After they were done filming, they had to put it all back as close to nature as they could manage. Honestly, each film should have a credit 'Also starring New Zealand as Middle Earth'. Mind you, some of the footage is on a created sound stage, but they used as many real locations as they could. Fortunately New Zealand has a wide variety of land types.

[@rollomaughfling380]

Once these movies hit, the NZ tourist board put up billboards all over Hollywood, with dramatic outdoor scenery saying something like: "Enjoying the Lord of the Rings? Well, just so you know, we left the set up. -Visit New Zealand!"

[@juliaforsyth8332]

Mt Sunday.

[@user-df8oh4vx9l]

obligatory "Faramir was better in the books" comment, in the books he let them go immediately after learning that they carry the ring

[@Makkaru112]

He was never tempted. He is Aragorn level. Both he and his brother are Númenorean but if a different lineage. Especially if the faithful Númenoreans through their mother Finduilas. He’s named after an elvish princess of the same name.

[@TheOctobersReact]

what did he do in the books?

[@bernice6867]

And no one tortured Gollum.

[@user-df8oh4vx9l]

@@TheOctobersReact he understood how meaningful their task was and was strong enough to withstand the rings calling, he let them go

[@killerclair]

One of my favorite things to think on is Gollum's role in all of this. In the end, who was responsible for destroying the ring? When Frodo was unable to cast it into Mount Doom, it was Gollum's act that saved Middle Earth. Even through Gollum's evil intention to have the ring for himself, it led to a good outcome for the world. The lesson being that even the bad characters can positively affect an outcome. Specifically this interaction with Frodo and Gandalf highlights it. Frodo: "It's a pity Bilbo didn't kill him when he had the chance." Gandalf: "Pity? It was pity that stayed Bilbo's hand. Many that live deserve death... My heart tells me that he has some part to play yet, for good or ill, before the end; and when that comes, the pity of Bilbo may rule the fate of many- yours not least.” BTW - I don't normally watch reactions, but between this and GOT, I am now stuck here. :D Love the content, keep it up!

[@TheOctobersReact]

Absolutely loving everything about this journey! Pretty sad we missed out on these in life because.... HOW NECESSARY! Thanks for hanging out with us on this journey! We cannot wait for the 3rd one! For full uncut reactions : www.patreon.com/theoctobers Give us your best LOTR lore for The Two Towers, we absolutely love when you guys give us a fun fact or two!

[@Makkaru112]

Gandalf is the same species of being as the Balrogs/Sauron before twisted by Melkor[Morgoth]. They are all Maiar (primordial spirits). Gandalf named Olórin created by Eru’s Thought (extensions of Eru Îlluvatar himself whilst they had their own free will & individuality. He essentially got the chance to experience and study other parts of himself through this.) among the other Ainur before the Years of the Lamps roughly 9,000+ years before arriving in Middle-earth; In Valinor he was known as Olórin.(Remember though he formally existed before the world existed and his form becoming Gandalf hadn’t happened yet. He was sent to Middle-earth in human form around the year 1000 of the Third Age. So his many forms had different ages in length of existing. He’s very cool right! Could he get any cooler!? 😎❤️ Another thing is when he arrived in middle earth he was disguised as an elf & lived among them whilst they were unknowing & he became to be known as Mithrandir to the Quendi/Eldar❤️ He could have very well dwelled with the elves far earlier just do to his curiosity & simple desire to explore and be around the firstborn (TheElves) Gandalf The Grey/White Estimated at 15,000 years old (following his quote "300 lives of men, I have walked this earth"), It says that Gandalf was the wisest of the Maiar besides Melian herself. There were a lot of Maiar that were considered really great and powerful. However, there is a much longer answer. Like Sauron(former name is Mairon) & the other Istari (the order sent around the same time & of which he was appointed leader but he being who he is & a student of the Vala by the name Nienna & Lorien(Irmo). Gandalf was a Maiar, an angelic spirit created by Eru at the beginning of time and therefor one of the many Ainur who sang the world into being & Eru just helped their creation take shape and basically stated “behold YOUR creation” & basically what happens in that world goes sort of preordained as by that song eons ago so really only the ages after Dagor Dagorath will truly be an age that isn’t full of strife; sadness; and longing. Also. These lamps are what were before even the two trees. These were Giant mountains but also like light houses but housing a great power but it may have also been where two special Maia lived that helped in the creation in the sun and moon after Melkor With eldrich terror Ungoliant killed the trees, so yea “Arien” is the Maia who basically exists with the sun and her brother and or lover of sorts is the one who wanders with and guides the moon. Of which that other Maia was “Tillion” Galadriel herself not only witnessed this but as a student of Aulë and the other Valar she obviously had involvement in helping create the hallowed objects that housed the final flower of the silver tree Telperion that was the father of the moon and the mother of the sun was Laurëlin the golden tree and prior to the sun and moon they too used to wax and wane! (Just in case you look her first.)

[@Makkaru112]

(Here i think is better for you to read easier as people’s comments flood in. This way we won’t miss eachother by hours lol)

[@Makkaru112]

You’ll get it all explained in the behind the scenes documentary series. Get ready. I have the link ready for y’all to start reacting to and best all other KZbin channels to the punch since they snoozed too much despite wanting to do it even after I became a patreon member for them lol.

[@Makkaru112]

KZbin deleted the first half of my comment even though it sat there for longer than 20 seconds.

[@Makkaru112]

Part 1: I basically said please react to gollums song in the credits. Listen to the lyrics. The lady poured her heart and soul into that song as everyone on this majestic team of so many different groups of people to make LOTR happen have done also.

[@johnwalters1341]

At 57:00, the statue is of Helm Hammerhand, ninth king of Rohan, who lived about 250 years before our story.

[@obenohnebohne]

I love your reaction to this. Fighting over Smeagol/Gollum is so funny. That shows how good the character is.

[@TheOctobersReact]

absolutely ! we could not agree more

[@richardhansen3703]

He used the timing of the sunrise to Blind them. What a genius move.

[@RambinoYT]

Frodo feels for and with Smeagol because Smeagol knows how it is to have the ring. The ring is heavy, it talks, it feels, it drains and tries to get back to it's master so the burden of carrying it is heavy. He relates with that, also Smeagol was transformed because of the ring, Frodo feels that he needs to remain human by helping him and that there is some hope left for people to potentially help Frodo down the road if he was to transform or change. You can see that Frodo is getting more and more attached with the ring. Holding it, stroking it, just the same way Gollum/Smeagol is. Remember he said i do pity him, because h is scared to become the way Smeagol and Gollum is. Gollum aka Smeagol. Smeagol is Gollum, but Smeagol developed a call it 2nd personality when he got the ring. Corrupted, twisted and thorn mind that became Gollum. Smeagol has been the weaker of the 2, that's why the scene with them arguing was quite big because it was Smeagol finally finding himself and the courage to let go. In the 3rd movie, Smeagol will tell you his story, when he does you can even hear him say: ''We even forgot our own name''

[@Makkaru112]

(Larger version) : Tolkien was a veteran of the First World War and many other battles such as The Battle Of Somme etc. his works of art were to give back to the England as a form of restoring lost mythologies that he himself was a master of since he was a top professor of philology at Oxford. He did ALOT of his writing while in the trenches during WWI during small “breaks” while down in those trench forts built into the ground. And while he eldest son was in the Second World War; his Lord Of The Rings writings was strictly created above all else to give his eldest something to read while stationed wherever he was stationed. I forgot that part. They sent letters back and forth about it all the time. He was also the one and only son that actually protected his fathers legacy and work. A lot of his other work were put together BY his son after his father passed away. It’s well worth to react to the documentary behind the scenes film the director and crew and cast created together as well as the interview with the son Christopher Tolkien who you get to sort of enjoy a nice indoor and outdoor chat for like what came to about 1-2 hours of wonderful footage from an era that really must not be forgotten. His work shed a light on things like The Finnish Kalevala, Norwegian Elder Edda, The Welsh Mabinogion, The Norwegian Nibelungen, The Indian Bhagvagita & Several Irish Folklore + other Cultural things! The man also restored and translated ancient relics for the governments as one everyone trusted. Much of what’s in our dictionary come from his efforts as well. Anytime he spoke or even posted a comment into the paper as an editorial or response to certain issues as a very involved man for the world and the environment everyone turned their head to listen to him as everyone knew his worth and respected him greatly. His works show how NOT to glorify war; shows in the films if you pay close attention while watching the next films. Sharing what you know now via the after thoughts at the end of the second film! Remember. Extended edition. There is a lot missed out on especially in the second movie regarding Boromir backstory which there is much more in the books but the films WANTED to keep more but the cinemas literally harangued him into making a “theatrical cut” which is why you have two versions. The real version and the “theatrical cut”. It was all to make more money for the company that is the theatres/cinemas. To get more showings in per day during the year. And believe me. People were camping outside and travelling the country to watch it MORE THAN ONCE. His creations literally lead to inspiring the most currently famous books games & movies we all literally wouldn’t have enjoyed and be touched to our souls core without him and his spiritually connected brilliance. That and he was a philologist professor at Oxford first and foremost which covers so many things. Not just linguistic. The man was a true genius and Jack of all trades but ultimately LOVED the simple life. The inspiration for Lord of the Rings was not any war, but author J.R.R. Tolkien's love of language. Especially Welsh, Finnish and Old English. He lamented the loss of any true English folklore, that was wiped out after the Norman invasion of 1066, so Tolkien wrote many books on these new "legends" he came up with himself. Much of which is centered around three languages he fully developed himself. Two Elven languages and Dwarvish. They all have alphabets, syntax and vocabularies and can be learned. Tolkien did draw upon his personal experience in the trenches of World War ONE, not Two, as inspiration for some parts, most notably, the Dead Marshes that Frodo and Sam and Gollum pass through in The Two Towers. But war was not the inspiration for the entire series. World Of Warcraft. Skyrim, Harry Potter, Diablo, D&D, even Warhammer and so forth wouldn’t have. Existed without taking inspiration from and or completely ripping off from Tolkien. Many great documentaries to react to about him also more about him and AWESOME stuff from the hours and hours of behind the scenes documentaries from the DVDs of the movies which are also on KZbin and I can send you a playlist to react to from top to bottom.

[@RoadDoug]

This is the song of lament sung at Theodore’s funeral: Now dear Théodred lies in darkness, most loyal of fighters. The sound of the harp shall not wake the warrior; nor shall the man hold a golden wine-cup, nor good hawk swing through the hall, nor the swift horse stamp in the courtyard. An evil death has set forth the noble warrior A song shall sing the sorrowing minstrels of Meduseld That noble cousin, who always held me dear Now is held in darkness, enclosed.

[@Speculativedude]

One of the funny things that's glanced over a bit is that the rope that Sam has is Elvish rope, which is magical. It actually untied itself and fell down in front of Sam, not because his knot skills were bad. You're right about Gollum having what kind of amounts to a split personality. One side Gollum, one side Smeagle, the man he use to be. You can see that later in the movie when he actually has the 2 sides talking to each other. The Smeagle side still has a little bit of humanity in him, but the Gollum side is completely corrupted.

[@MichaelHattem]

The reason he says it’s too risky to kill them at the end is because he will become even worse if he kills for the ring a second time (a factor in why the ring did so much worse to Smeagol than to Bilbo or Frodo). So he needs to get rid of them without him being the one who kills them.

[@morgan4574]

Faramir is smart and "learned" He never once shows any hesitation in the books but to help Frodo and Sam. This whole inner conflict is for the movie drama only. He knows or has a strong gut feeling that the ring cannot be wielded for anything but evil. He knows that if Frodo accomplished his mission, then Gondor is also saved. It's the best outcome. And he understands that they need Gollum to lead them there. It ain't any deeper than that.

[@benjamineckles]

The Brad Doriff(Wormtongue) actually can make his left eye tear up on command. When Peter Jackson found out about, he knew the perfect spot to utilize it.

[@BlaiddDrwg2009]

Has anyone told them about Aragorn's broken toe or shall I take one for the team 😂 fine. When Aragorn kicks the Orc helmet, the actor at that point had kicked it so often that the final kick we see in the movie broke his toe. That scream of anguish is actually a scream of pain that he channeled into his performance. So there you have it.

[@robertedgar7497]

Helms Deep is one of the best battles put on film in cinema history, 45 min of pure insanity and awesome, and masterfully shot. If you have the time i would highly recommend watching the making of these movies, yes the making of is just as long as the movies, but well worth watching.

[@naomicummings]

Epic. Always love getting into the story. I just want to say, the character of Faramir was changed in the movie. In the book, he is noble throughout and doesn’t try to take the ring to Gondor. He is a great captain doing the hard work on the borders of Mordor, though his dad Denethor despises him, thinking him weak.

[@muhest]

The extended version gives you a bit of the backstory of Boromir and Faramir. And tells how Boromir ended up at the council of Elrond in _Fellowship of the Ring._ That is not highlighted in the theatrical version.

[@karlschmitt6359]

The hyena looking creatures are called Wargs. The orc killing contest between Gimli and Legolas is in the books and it's building their friendship. At the beginning you saw the distrust between Gimli and Legolas and you'll learn more about that distrust when you watch The Hobbit trilogy! Also, the actor who plays Gimli, John Rhys Davies, is actually about 6'5" and he's playing a dwarf-hilarious! The actor who plays Smeagol/Gollum, Andy Sirkis, does a great job with this character!

[@koreancowboy42]

Well, the distrust went way further than the hobbit

[@karlschmitt6359]

@koreancowboy42 yes, but most don't read all the lore and history of middle earth, all they know is what's in The Hobbit! They need to know about The Silmarillion and other companion/reference books that delve into all the nuances of all four books!

[@PhilBagels]

The wargs are described as wolves in the books, but here, they look more like hyenas, which bugged me a bit.

[@karlschmitt6359]

@@PhilBagels I agree

[@Shalltear773]

there's only one question I have about Smeagol: could he have been saved? we saw his evil side disappear for a bit after his argument... self-argument thing yet it returns seemingly only after he was put in a position where he... them... whichever... could've perceived the situation at the pool as Frodo tricking him.

[@zenocrate4040]

Tolkien has some really interesting musings on this point in his letters. Some of these have been published in an edition edited by Carpenter (sometimes edited more than serves either reader or Tolkien...)

[@morgan4574]

You guys have me dying at the stew scene 😂 y'all are so cute!!!

[@TheOctobersReact]

aw thank you so much

[@Eowyn187]

You've misunderstood Eowyn. After she saw Aragorn clutching the pendant, she wasn't "coming after him"... she was only expressing herself. If you fell for a man, and afterward learned his heart was elsewhere, you might have something to say. Doesn't mean you'd make a fool of yourself by still wanting him. Can't wait to see you later, when she shows exactly how badass she is. She does far more than spar.

[@lavinder11]

Nah she was making moves.

[@Makkaru112]

The poem was written by a forgotten poet for Eorl, long before the War of the Ring. On the way to Edoras, Aragorn chants a poem in Rohanese to characterize the Rohirrim. The text is not given. After Legolas comments that the sound of the words resembles the land of Rohan, Aragorn recites his translation of it, which is this poem: 
“Where now the horse and the rider? Where is the horn that was blowing? 
Where is the helm and the hauberk, and the bright hair flowing? 
Where is the hand on the harpstring, and the red fire glowing? 
Where is the spring and the harvest and the tall corn growing? 
They have passed like rain on the mountain, like a wind in the meadow; 
The days have gone down in the West behind the hills into shadow. 
Who shall gather the smoke of the dead wood burning, 
Or behold the flowing years from the Sea returning?” But they somehow made Thèoden recite a portion of it: At the beginning of the Battle of Helm's Deep, Théoden recites some lines of the song, lamenting how alone the Rohirrim stand (so it fits for the movie! Just not for the books so much… as it’s misplaced) here is what he recited in the movie: “Where is the horse and the rider?
Where is the horn that was blowing?
They have passed like rain on the mountains,
like wind in the meadow.
The days have gone down in the West,
behind the hills... into Shadow. The remaining lines are sung in Old English on the score in the background in the above and other scenes. “Where now the horse and the rider? Where is the horn that was blowing? 
Where is the helm and the hauberk, and the bright hair flowing? 
Where is the hand on the harpstring, and the red fire glowing? 
Where is the spring and the harvest and the tall corn growing? 
They have passed like rain on the mountain, like a wind in the meadow; 
The days have gone down in the West behind the hills into shadow. 
Who shall gather the smoke of the dead wood burning, 
Or behold the flowing years from the Sea returning?” The poem was written by a forgotten poet for Eorl, long before the War of the Ring. On the way to Edoras, Aragorn chants a poem in Rohirric language to characterize the Rohirrim. The text is not given. After Legolas comments that the sound of the words resembles the land of Rohan, Aragorn recites his translation of it, which is this poem I quoted above ☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻 But they somehow made Thèoden recite a portion of it: At the beginning of the Battle of Helm's Deep, Théoden recites some lines of the song, lamenting how alone the Rohirrim stand (so it fits for the movie! Just not for the books so much… as it’s misplaced) here is what he recited in the movie: “Where is the horse and the rider?
Where is the horn that was blowing?
They have passed like rain on the mountains,
like wind in the meadow.
The days have gone down in the West,
behind the hills... into Shadow. The remaining lines are sung in Old English on the score in the background in the above and other scenes.

[@MenglinGao]

Y'all got the fastest processing power of all of them reactors. Keep up the good work!

[@STRYKRGAMING-eq7pc]

thought i was the only one who noticed. lol

[@STRYKRGAMING-eq7pc]

gollum/smegol is voice acting and motion acting. the actor, Andy Serkis was in a suit with motion capture technology. all the movements are him, and obviously the voices. He should have been AT LEAST nominated for an Oscar for these movies. it was way ahead of its time then.

[@Makkaru112]

He also just began streaming his live readings of The Silmarillion !

[@TheOctobersReact]

wow that’s impressive

[@TheOctobersReact]

that’s very awesome too

[@ronweber1402]

The Dead Marshes are a correlation of Tolkien's experiences in WWI (not WWII) The shell holes in no-man's-land would fill with water and soldiers would drown in them, their bodies visible to those going by, or they were buried by shelling and then exhumed by more shelling and their rotting bodies would emit methane that would catch fire and make little lights on the battlefield. The scale of death was unfathomable. It was like dozens of Battles of Antietam that happened at The Somme, Ypres and Passchendaele.

[@66JesterDeath]

It took me so long to notice that when Sam tells Faramir about boromir swearing to protect Frodo and trying to kill him for the ring, that he knows his brother would never and that's what changed it, so small but great

[@Makkaru112]

Faramir was Aragorn levels in the books. Never was tempted and freely rejected the ring. And they were never taken to Osgiliath lol

[@rollomaughfling380]

@@Makkaru112 This is a movie discussion, bro. Outta here with your pile of books.

[@Yyz1971]

Good eye (no pun intended). Saruman looks gray because in the book, he transformed (so to speak) from Saruman the White into Saruman of Many Colors, as he became corrupted.

[@Makkaru112]

Oddly he never wished to serve Sauron as he was always a rogue agent and The Long Defeat/marring of middle earth by Morgoth causing magic to bleed from the first version of the world of the first ainulindalë he became more and more susceptible to Mairon/Sauron who was one of the strongest of all the Maiar even at his weakest point by the third age from being vanquished twice already before this point. Maiar have a huge effect on eachother. It’s why the Voice Of Saruman has such sway and power is because of how their very songs shaped middle earth long ago.

[@cameronvanderpool9633]

I've been a lover of Tolkien since I was 10yrs old and I'm SO here for all the new fans! So excited to see so many new people discover the magic of Middle Earth

[@JohnCameron624]

Remember what Gandalf said in the first movie... Gollum has a part to play in the quest.

[@TheOctobersReact]

oh yeah!!

[@morothane]

You two have been a joy to watch! I hope you keep finding your own meaning in your journey to Middle Earth :)

[@TheOctobersReact]

thanks for watching 😊 cannot wait for the third one

[@isaackellogg3493]

Dwarves are mountain folk, living in caves, mining and crafting weapons, armor, tools, and jewels. So their eyesight is optimized for near-sightedness (remember how Gimli thought the flock of birds was a wisp of cloud). They are also natural sprinters, as their caves do not tend to be straight shot miles long, but have many twists, turns, chambers, and halls. They prefer swift, explosive running and sudden stops, falling like a hammer blow on their enemies. Elves, on the other hand, have spent tens of thousands of years gazing at stars from between the branches of trees. This gives them great farsightedness. Also, their eyes have more than the three cones humans enjoy, which enables them to see more colors than us, optimizing their detail resolution in low light conditions. Recall that their three favorite colors are silver, grey, and white. Most likely these colors are much brighter and more vibrant to their eyes, while to us they are drab blurs. Also, they walk swift and light on the Earth, barely touching the ground and rarely tiring. Legolas would have a lot less trouble walking a hundred miles than would Gimli.

[@Makkaru112]

Exactly. Which ties in with how and why he could talk ontop of the snow. Nature itself is symbiotic with the Eldar. The Quendi. According to Tolkien, Elves could even dream while moving about, "blending living night & deep dream." When Aragorn, Gimli & Legolas are running across the Plains of Rohan pursuing the orcs who captured Merry and Pippin, Legolas never sleeps, even stands watch while his wiped out Dwarf & Human companions are literally tuckered out and even while the other two are asleep. That & out of the entire journey Legolas was both Stoic and ethereal but the one whose heart remained the lightest and kept the fellowship afloat in so many ways ❤. So it was weird how the film gave it all to Gimli! 😂❤️ They have a debate after finding the brooch dropped by Pippin..... continue running through the night (& possibly miss other important signs in the dark), or rest overnight (and let the Uruks get further away from them). In the end, they choose to rest.

[@isaackellogg3493]

@@Makkaru112 this!

[@TheOctobersReact]

wow i really love this info here! nice 😊

[@Makkaru112]

Wormtongue is a modernised form of Old English wyrm-tunge ("snake-tongue"). Grima’s title in the language of the Rohirrim was wyrm-tunga, which is modernised as 'Wormtongue'. In fact Anglo-Saxon (used by Tolkien to represent the speech of Rohan) used wyrm for various types of creatures, from what we would today call 'worms' to snakes & even Dragons. The meaning intended by wyrm-tunga was actually 'snake' (suggesting deviousness and deceptiveness) rather than 'worm' in the modern sense, though actually either reading would suit Gríma's character. But in various other older cultures the snake is wisdom etc.

[@cindyknudson2715]

AND - FUN FACTS!! When Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli were running across Rohan tracking Merry and Pippen, Aragorn had already broken his toe while kicking the helmet, Legolas had cracked ribs from falling of the horse, and Gimli had a bad knee, also from a fall. They were the walking wounded whose job that day was to run... and run ... and run.... to get that footage.

[@JayPadrig]

You need to see the extended Two Towers more than the others. There’s a super important character redemption arch you’ll miss if you don’t. It’s not in the theater version. I wish he did this 30 minutes ago… he did! In the book Faramir let the hobbits go without taking them to Osgiliath/ in Gondor. But in the movie, they needed Frodo and Sam to do some more stuff for time.

[@Jumpman67]

18:27 Fun Fact: Aragorn actually... ya know, never mind.

[@SkidmoreTx]

No matter how many times I watch this movie, Sam’s speech still gets me whipping

[@clowicous]

You guys are pretty funny! Definitely keeping a lookout on your videos! Thanks for watching the best trilogy like EVER! Can’t wait to see the next one!

[@user-df8oh4vx9l]

frodo pities gollum so much, because he knows that that is his faith if he carries the ring too long. he wants to believe that Sméagol can be brought back, so he can be sure he would be able to be brought back

[@TheOctobersReact]

aw i understand that fully

[@Shap0o.PlayZz]

1:29:01 One of the absolute gem of a moment in movie history in my opinion 🎉🎉 Gandalf's arrival 1:29:53 Daaamn beautiful and Shadowfax just brightened it all up.. 1:30:09 Rohirem, to the King 🫣😍😍😍💯

[@lynnriddell9632]

Fun fact, when Aragorn kicked the helmet after finding that Merry and Pippin might be dead, he actually broke his toe - that roar he gave was genuine.

[@TheJosephmiranda44]

It may have already been mentioned, but the reason Frodo put so much faith in Smeagol is that he had to believe that there was a way to keep some goodness in his self, despite the ring's effect. Frodo was worried about his own way back, should he fall into the ring's spell.

[@LordHaveloth]

First of all, you are a lovely couple to watch and cheers to that, but secondly, have you ever thought about voice acting? You both have a very characteristic/special voices

[@TheOctobersReact]

thank you. that’s a really great compliment! no one has ever said that to us before so thank you again!

[@kcojco]

You would not have gotten to see the Boromir flashback in the theater edition. It explained so much about Boromirs motivation.

[@TheOctobersReact]

glad we did honestly

[@joshuawells835]

J.R.R. Tolkien was the kind of professor who would openly recite Old English and Saxon poetry from heart. The man loved the sound of languages. Here is the translation for the Lament for Theodred, "An evil death has set forth the noble warrior A song shall sing the sorrowing minstrels of Meduseld That noble cousin, who always held me dear Now is held in darkness, enclosed."

[@Makkaru112]

Èowyn’s FULL SONG in Rohirric Eotheod language + English translation below/ Èowyn sings at Thèodred’s “funeral”•Now dear Théodred lies in darkness, most loyal of fighters. The sound of the harp shall not wake the warrior; nor shall the man hold a golden wine-cup, nor good hawk swing through the hall, nor the swift horse stamp in the courtyard. An evil death has set forth the noble warrior A song shall sing the sorrowing minstrels of Meduseld That noble cousin, who always held me dear Now is held in darkness, enclosed. (Now in in the language of the Èitheod)❤ Nú on théostrum licgeth Théodred se léofa hæ´letha holdost. ne sceal hearpan sweg wigend weccean; ne winfæ´t gylden guma sceal healdan, ne god hafoc geond sæ´l swingan, ne se swifta mearh burhstede beatan. Bealocwealm hafað fréone frecan forth onsended giedd sculon singan gléomenn sorgiende on Meduselde thæt he ma no wære his dryhtne dyrest and maga deorost. She sings this part in the movie: Bealocwealm hafað fréone frecan forth onsended giedd sculon singan gléomenn sorgiende on Meduselde thæt he ma no wære his dryhtne dyrest and maga deorost. Éowyn is only heard singing the last four lines of the song, ending with the word Bealo, which in Old English meant "evil" or "harm". The first of those lines ("Bealocwealm hafað...") originates from the epic poem Beowulf, line 2265.)

[@rajahkossuth]

As one man said, Andy Serkis played Gollum. He played the Vibranium thief in Avengers: Age of Ultron. He gets his arm chopped off by Ultron!

[@ricardoortiz4870]

Funny how he got back into shape after falling into lava.

[@Makkaru112]

Let me share about Elrond & his daughter Arwen (& Aragorn by extension) therefore we must look at Elrond’s Twin Brother Elros, they both were half-elven brothers who can choose to be mortal or immortal because of their parents(Eärendil and Elwing) both half elven made a great sacrifice and went to Valinor to ask for help against Morgoth(who was making everything worse than a living hellscape for 100s of generations) which lead to the greatest events in the early first and second age. Instead of being punished, the valar listened to them, that led to a great hosts of Valar and Maiar And Vanyar Elves went to Middle Earth that laid waste to Beleriand. After the War Of Wrath, the valar rewarded them for their sacrifices. They can choose to be elf or men, including their children. They chose immortally, but never return to Middle Earth because they thought that their twin sons had died. But they didnt die. Elrond chose to be immortal while his twin brother Elros chose to be mortal. He founded the Kingdom of Numenor. He lived in Numenor Island and blessed with a long life that include his descendants Those men who fought for the war were rewarded a long life but not their families or children. Only the family of Elrond can choose to be immortal or mortal in which Arwen did. Aragorn is the direct descendant of Elros, thats why he has a long life. The average lifespan of a Numenorean at their height was a few thousand years maximum! Now remember too that half elves are a common thing and whenever they did come together it was always significant !❤❤❤ Remember this is the SHORT version, there are so many moving parts that will make you want to dive into the books or the audio books or even do reaction videos to the famous lore videos by the biggest lore channels out there! ((To The Octobers: When you’re done the trilogy try doing reaction videos just like Moviejoob did now with the lore recently as well as OmarioRPG. I recommend videos by GirlNextGondor and The Red Book, and Tolkien Untangled and especially Men Of The West. Many other cool ones I’ll recommend in the comments section of those reaction videos you do from Tolkiens Legendarium lore videos. They are super engaging. You’ll be in love. Nothing would have existed if Tolkiens works never hit the light of day as they were meant to stay private and sometimes be shared with his children and so on. No Game Of Thrones. No Skyrim. No ElderScrolls, No World Of Warcraft, no Dungeons&Dragons. None of it. Not even Star Wars. Not even Harry Potter! They took inspiration from his works which were souly to give back a forgotten history of the Anglo Saxons that had their culture & history destroyed as the larger empires were riding around them. His works reflect the Elder Edda(Norse) The Kalevala(Finnish) and the Welsh people from Wales as well as Irelands cultures of the Tuatha De Danaan as well! His languages are fully fleshed out too resembling Finnish & Welsh)) • By the way Elrond is around 6870-8000 years old & nearly a full Elf year (as they age very very differently to Men) is close to 144 man years(solar years for them). but if you want a more true age you must realize that he may be 8000 but in human years after the sun and moon were created from the flower from of the two trees of Valinor as well as one fruit from the other of the two trees; they experience the TIME and the way men experience it but their clock is different! They live as long as the world/Arda/Ëa does. Essentially. Which is why they are so in synch with the world around them and the nature responds to them ! Think of when Legolas walked ontop of all that snow on the Mountain of Caradhras!! They continue to endure as long ad the world itself does. (Arda) and speaking of age, Legolas is also 3000+years old by the time he becomes a member of The Fellowship Of The Ring! If you look back on the original trilogy movies: The fellowship had a 3000year old Elven PRINCE in their party. And a clandestine angelic being who was Gandalf originally known Olòrin to those such as Galadriel who knew him when she lived in Valinor, Elrond also knew would be one of the only others who’d know this save Círdan The Shipwright(Oldest Elf in the world but even he was a few generations down from the original elvish peoples to awake to the stars) & kin to Thingol who also is a semi distant cousin to Legolas as Legolas’ grandfather was the close cousin to Thingol(same with Galadriel’s Husband Celeborn through his father, their capital within Lothlòrien was named after his father(Caras Galadhon) Galadhon being the name indicating that which belongs to the father. And a 87 year old Númenorean man named Aragorn!, a 335 year old Dwarven Prince named Gimli. And as a microcosm they resembled the coalition of all the races of middle earth uniting under one banner which is another reason it sort of metaphysically set into motion the world uniting at the macrocosm ! Galadriel's Phial (gift to Frodo) is something really special. light & dark have a spiritual dimension in Tolkien. way back before the First Age Valinor was lit by two very special Trees that waxed & waned in opposition to each other. a master craftsman Elf named Fëanor fashioned three gems that captured their light, the Silmarils. (And it’s same power and light was drawn into it from the very firmament where it now stands amongst the stars as Eärendil himself (Elrond’s father stands watch over The Doors Of Night where Melkor still is held until fate holds him no longer.) Everyone who saw them was captivated by them, even the Melkor(Morgoth); the first Dark Lord. Wars were fought over them called the Kinstrife after Morgoth had the Trees destroyed the Silmarils were the only light from them left and he stole them as you may remember, they changed hands a few times & eventually one was left after one fell into the sea & another was lost in a pit of magma. a Half Elf named Eärendil (the first one! Who was Elrond’s father.) came into its possession & sailed it to Valinor as a gift to the Valar to ask for their help in defeating Morgoth, which they did. the Valar turned it into a star & hung it in the sky with Eärendil as its guardian. the fountain of Galadriel's Mirror is lit by light captured from the star Eärendil & her Phial has water from the fount. I've left out about 90% of the story but it's quite important & central to the story of Middle Earth. for her to give the Phial to Frodo is quite extraordinary. its light does burn & blind Shelob (that's the spider's name) but doesn't kill her outright. oh also, before he was put in the sky to guard the last Silmaril Earendil had two children, Elrond & his brother Elros the first King of Numenor. Tolkien's lore is deep & vast & the Silmarils are at the center of it. The Star of Eärendil is the light that shines in the horizon both in the morning and the evening. It consists in a boat raised by the Valar and led by Eärendil, who carries a shining Silmaril while watching the Doors of Night. The Door of Night was a portal in the distant Uttermost West that leads to heaven, and/or the Void. Eärendil's ship Vingilot was taken by the Valar from the rim of the world, passed through the Door and was lifted into the "oceans of heaven". PS: Eärendil is ELROND’s half Vanyar Elf half human father, that father was the son of the great Tuor of the great stories of The Children Of Húrin book!❤❤❤❤ Aragorn is a CLOSE descendant of a direct bloodline to Elros(Elrond’s Twin Brother) The title of half elven (Peredhel) was due to the combined history of Beren&Lúthien, his mother Elwing was the granddaughter of Lùthien! Eärendil was the husband of Elwing. The true half elf; son of the best elvish women ever who rescued hundreds from the highest of elvish kingdoms(Gondolin); her name is Idril & one of the best most powerful men around named Tuor. Who later on when they went to Valinor together through their own way lead to him choosing to be counted as One Of The Eldar for Idril. Eärendil did the same for Elwing. ❤

[@miskbalder]

Gollum wasn't just voice acting, the actors name is Andy Serkis who did the acting with a suit with motion tracking and also motion tracking points in his face and such, he did an awesome job Merry and Pippin actually grew several inches from drinking the ent water, they became the tallest hobbits in history

[@Shap0o.PlayZz]

37:02 this one is rather an epic scene.. and how the men stopped the fight from happening.. damn, its awesome 😎

[@donnathomas6063]

Thoroughly enjoying your reactions to my favourite trilogy! Glad you’re liking them so much that even the extended editions feel short 😊 I don’t think she’s wrong to feel sorry for Gollum. That’s kind of the point. He’s messed up and made a lot of horrible choices, but there’s room for pity as well given the state he’s in from years of mental torment and instability from the ring. Frodo is right to feel for him; Sam is right to be suspicious.

[@TheOctobersReact]

yes it’s so easy to feel bad for him! thanks for the kind words and thanks for watching!

[@qbasicmichael]

A few points: People seem to think gandalf tricked that guard into letting him keep the staff. I'm thinking the guard was a good guy, he knew that gandalf is a good guy, and he was willing to go along with gandalf's excuse. Unless i'm mistaken, he's the same one who held back another guard during the exorcism. Gollum / smeagol is a neccessary evil. Sam is right that he is a villian and not trustworthy. But frodo is also right that they need him. Gandalf had strongly suggested that it was a good thing that bilbo had not killed him.

[@WolfFireheart]

I also think, that Frodo sees himself in Gollum. And hopes, desperately hopes that Gollum can be saved. Because if Gollum can be saved, so can he. If Gollum is a lost cause, so is he.

[@josephcrook9921]

The song Eowyn sang was a funeral lament for Theodred. The language of Rohan Tolkien derived from Old English (Anglo Saxon). "Now dear Théodred lies in darkness, most loyal of fighters. The sound of the harp shall not wake the warrior; nor shall the man hold a golden wine-cup, nor good hawk swing through the hall, nor the swift horse stamp in the courtyard. An evil death has set forth the noble warrior A song shall sing the sorrowing minstrels of Meduseld That noble cousin, who always held me dear Now is held in darkness, enclosed."

[@Makkaru112]

Èowyn’s FULL SONG in Rohirric Eotheod language + English translation below/ Èowyn sings at Thèodred’s “funeral”•Now dear Théodred lies in darkness, most loyal of fighters. The sound of the harp shall not wake the warrior; nor shall the man hold a golden wine-cup, nor good hawk swing through the hall, nor the swift horse stamp in the courtyard. An evil death has set forth the noble warrior A song shall sing the sorrowing minstrels of Meduseld That noble cousin, who always held me dear Now is held in darkness, enclosed. (Now in in the language of the Èitheod)❤ Nú on théostrum licgeth Théodred se léofa hæ´letha holdost. ne sceal hearpan sweg wigend weccean; ne winfæ´t gylden guma sceal healdan, ne god hafoc geond sæ´l swingan, ne se swifta mearh burhstede beatan. Bealocwealm hafað fréone frecan forth onsended giedd sculon singan gléomenn sorgiende on Meduselde thæt he ma no wære his dryhtne dyrest and maga deorost. She sings this part in the movie: Bealocwealm hafað fréone frecan forth onsended giedd sculon singan gléomenn sorgiende on Meduselde thæt he ma no wære his dryhtne dyrest and maga deorost. Éowyn is only heard singing the last four lines of the song, ending with the word Bealo, which in Old English meant "evil" or "harm". The first of those lines ("Bealocwealm hafað...") originates from the epic poem Beowulf, line 2265.)

[@josephcrook9921]

@@Makkaru112 I need to re read Beowulf. Haven't read it since high school. Everyone is usually enamored by the Elvish languages, which are beautiful, but I love Rohirric. I also love Anglo Saxon and the histories of that people, so I guess it makes sense.

[@TigerHogan]

“Do you still think he’s cute baby?” 😂

[@YoureMrLebowski]

0:27 yeah, we had to wait. but, we did get to watch it on the big screen and hear the big sound.

[@Makkaru112]

Big screen. Big sound. Lol. Nice.

[@TheOctobersReact]

jealous!

[@Iceman-135]

You had better strap in for Return of the King, and have some tissues on hand. It's not spoiler to say it will get emotional. With so many characters, such high stakes, and so much happening, prepare for something bigger than the previous 2 films. By the end, you will say that this is likely the greatest film trilogy ever made. ROTK won 11 Oscars which is tied with the Titanic and Ben Hur, all 3 earning the most with one film. I can't wait to see your reaction. And thanks for the lengthy video, it's a great idea to do it this way!

[@TheOctobersReact]

we cannot wait either ! let’s go!

[@brianvw2724]

Awesome! Been waitin' for y'all to drop this one

[@TheOctobersReact]

Happy Friday, Friend :)

[@alexanderdean8682]

Pippin knew that the cut-down forest would anger Treebeard, it was his plan, he also knew and was ready to go to war and to die if so to defend what he loved and believed in - Shire and his friends.

[@Jason-jb3xt]

Fun Fact the elvish rope has a special property that allows the user to tug on it to undo the knot tied in it, elvish ingenuity at its finest.

[@blueshit199]

Nazguls' new mounts are more like wyverns than dragons, dragons in LOTR are much bigger and as usual fire-breathing, whereas these creatures here are like an immitation of dragons that Sauron created

[@richardhansen3703]

When Legolis was surfing down the stairs while shooting arrows, that part was in the regular movie also.

[@maureenseel118]

I saw all three in theaters...at the midnight showing. I watched the extended versions on DVD as soon as they were available. LOL...I was THAT kid. My brother made me read all the books before I could see the movies, then he took me to the midnight showing when I was in high school. It's so fun to see people discover this series.

[@ericgallini3988]

They did Faramir dirty in the movie. In the book, he did not try to take the ring and instead tried to assist Frodo. It's one of the few complaints I have about this amazing movie.

[@MinniGiant]

I love the movies, but this is my biggest complaint about them.

[@ericgallini3988]

@MinniGiant I think the concern is that he would be too much like Aragorn but that was the point in the book... Aragorn was not the only good man left.

[@Makkaru112]

part 1: Treebeard(Fangorn is his true name meaning bearded tree in Sindarin elvish. The forest itself is named after him.) In the Silmarillion, at the end of the chapter "Of Aule and Yavanna", Manwë states, "But in the forests shall walk the Shepherds of the Trees." This is before the chapter, 'Of the Coming of the Elves'. So, since Treebeard is one of the first three, he is beyond cool. And he is around before the elves arrive in Valinor. However, do not be deceived! The elves taught the Ents speech, even though they were around before. It is often mistaken that ents are trees or were once trees, when they are in fact are a sort of 4th children of Îlluvatar (AllFather) a creation of the Vala named Yavannah Treebeard refers to the elves "started it, teaching the trees to talk" or some such thing. He also refers to the elves curing the ent's "dumbness". People assume the two events are one and the same, when they are not. Obviously, Tolkien meant to be vague and allow the reader to decide what they looked like and just how ent-like huorns could become and how tree-like ents could become. But it is clear they are in the long lists of animals alongside men and harts and bears, etc., not plants.

[@TheOctobersReact]

thanks for sharing this with us, i tried to remember all i could when i watched the third!

[@chrisbanks6659]

Not a dragon. A Fell Beast. A lot of your guesses about the plot and lore are pretty well founded but there is a lot more to come before the journey concludes. All (most) of your questions will be answered, one way or another. It's pretty frickin' epic and you're both doing a grand job.

[@TheOctobersReact]

thank you we are so excited to do this trilogy bc it’s awesome !

[@PhilBagels]

@@TheOctobersReact Yes. Dragons are much bigger, and much, much worse. They are highly intelligent and would never allow themselves to be ridden like common beasts of burden. The books just call these things "fell beasts" and doesn't really say what they are, simply speculating that they are large birds twisted and corrupted by evil magic. They're described a bit like pterodactyls in the books. Watch The Hobbit for an actual dragon.

[@TheOctobersReact]

@PhilBagels okay will do!

[@chrisbanks6659]

@@PhilBagels You explained it better than I could at the time. Mind you, I did have a large intake of Dr Budweiser before, during and after viewing, so I guess that lets me off the hook - a bit. LOL

[@rollomaughfling380]

@@PhilBagels This is a *_movie_* they're reacting to, not a fucking book. In the movies, it's definitely a dragon. Some type of wyvern. Stop with your cunt-hair splitting pedantry, ya douches!

[@TheHighSorcerer]

I wanna take a sec and clarify that the back and forth Gollum and Smeagol have was good ACTING. Andy Serkis did the voice and the mo-cap on set, so it's all him in the movements and the portrayal, just acting his butt off for our entertainment. Look up the behind the scenes clips, there's one with a side-by-side of him doing it and the finished film, it's really impressive.

[@TheOctobersReact]

he did an amazing job!