What are Death Doom and Funeral Doom Metal?

[@whatsinameme5258]

Songs used: I Remain by Paradise Lost. The Krusher by Asphyx. Jewel Throne by Celtic Frost. Eternal Frost and Servants of the Warsmen by Winter. Tree of Suffocating Souls and Shatter by Triptykon. Splinters and Dragged to Gehenna by Vallenfyre. Winds of Chains by Grave. Slowly We Rot by Obituary. The Lost Feeling by Saint Vitus. Turn Loose the Swans by My Dying Bride. Firelights by Swallow the Sun. A Hamlet for a Slothful Vassal by Theatre of Tragedy. Forever Failure by Paradise Lost. O Father Sea by Ahab. A Slow March to the Burial by Mournful Congregation. ... and... And by Funeral.

[@gavinr4214]

Spotify profile/tracklist?

[@jacksonrogers6189]

No mention of disembowelment 😔

[@danibeto]

The best metal Channel in all KZbin

[@J.H7950]

OHHOO Yes! my fav genre. Been waiting for this video. Good Job! Keep em coming!

[@radiosavior6361]

Glad you decided to shorten the length of the video. Plus thank you for uncovering great bands for us!

[@CC-fi3pp]

Death Doom is quite mental.

[@kevinobrien3888]

I found this very educational. I heard some familiar bands and some that I'd heard of but never heard. Very nice job on this one.

[@antares4975]

Everything Celtic Frost + Triptycon made post-millenial is pure gold! I grew up in the 90s and 00s, Celtic Frost was more a metal legend for me, i had no tapes or recordings and never really heard much of them. It was okay, i accepted it, since i wasn't expecting that much impact on me. When Monotheist came out i was just blown away. it is so versatile and dense. Just listen finally to 'a dying god coming into human flesh' or 'Totengott'. Even my fav genre was black metal, it made me shiver like nothing else. it was a crazy comeback

[@lollyfox65]

so happy to see Triptykon in this vid. love them

[@JayThomasofficial]

Love this . Thanks for this . Took notes . Really got into this genre after discovering a band called Hamferd .

[@zv_real]

Please cover Neurosis they were one of the most infuential bands in metal at one point. They are worth diving deep.

[@gavinr4214]

This, deep dives is a really good idea for future videos eitherway Occult. Aka Razorfist style

[@ThatOneGuy7550]

he covered post-metal and never mentioned Neurosis or Cult of Luna lmao

[@NSW15355]

I just recently got into metal. What would you call the part at 5:40 of the song "The Divinity of Our Great Perversions" by Gnaw Their Tongues?

[@indamaking]

What if that guy just walks straight down the middle

[@atlantankihihi4541]

Literally me

[@michaelguernsey1206]

I see how this could play into your stages of grief theory. Fascinating.

[@Malum09]

Beautiful Genre, combination of different types of brutal metal.

[@shroomlord682]

i know a very slow death doom/funeral doom, its called tyranny, its a great band and yalls should check it out

[@yarpenzigrin1893]

Ahab are absolutely brilliant. I can't stop listening to them.

[@Pillow_US]

I hope you talk about THALL in the future otherwise love the video.

[@megas13proto]

I feel like Autopsy has a hand in death/doom too

[@MegaMantra]

They are the death doom band

[@anothersettlementneedsyour9628]

You really want to make video for every subgenre of a subgenre? Cool. Big respect for even attempting, but I really have hard time seeing this as achieveable. It’ll take forever, feels like new one pops up every year. But I love these, because it introduces even long time fans like me to new stuff, or stuff I knew, but never gave a serious listen. I hope you make video about eastern metal, like vedic metal (indian metal) or middle eastern folk metal. And trance metal video, because I still despite the evidence can’t believe it’s as popular as it is.

[@Thenewbronzeagecollapse]

You should also cover post death metal, now that you've covered death doom and downtempo deathcore. I think it deserves a video on its own.

[@AussoOnePlus]

Funeral Dooom metal essentials: Worship Longing for Dawn Ahab Evoken

[@stormlord69]

Very well put!

[@nicholasbryant8268]

I'm recently not sure of which one to listen to. Funeral Doom I'm able listen to a handful bands but don't really have any favorites at the moment. Death Doom however, I've been able to listen to a few bands but Hooded meanace and Rune magic have been my favorites. Also My dying bride which is also death doom partially.

[@phillipwhitford4064]

Another awesome video

[@MegaMicah12]

Very great look as always. Surprised you chose Winter instead of Rippikoulu for an early Death/Doom band. Now, on the next few vids you will be doing... Downtempo deathcore is something I have yet to check, so I'm interested on what you have to say on it. For the NWOBHM video, I have some things I'd like to say on it. *1. You probably will mention Judas Priest for an early look at the style, but I hope you also mention Quartz. It was produced by Tony Iommi and seems to be mentioned as an influence to the style* *2. Def Leppard is a band that people might forget/not realize was a part of the movement. So even a simple mention would be good on them.*

[@whatsinameme5258]

I will look into Quartz! Any album in particular?

[@whatsinameme5258]

Forgive me, my cat made my hand slip and I accidently removed your reply, but debut and against all odds you said?

[@MegaMicah12]

@@whatsinameme5258 Those two albums, and *Stand up and Fight* .

[@wolverine669]

Although Funeral is one of the oldest bands in the genre, formed in 1991, Thergothon and Cathedral are still the grandfathers of funeral doom. Both formed in 1989. Alhough Cathedral's "Forest Of Equilibrium" came out in 1991, it's still perhaps more doom with funeral doom parts. Thergothon's "Stream From The Heavens" came out not until 1994, but they did release both of their demo's in 1991. And those two albums and still some of the best ever done. In death/doom or gothic/doom I'll go with Winter, old My Dying Bride and Paradise Lost - "Gothic"

[@9TXONE]

Cianide's The Dying Truth is one of the best death-doom gems from the 90s. Check it out!

[@liamschulzrules]

Bro? Bell Witch?

[@MegaMantra]

The disrespect on autopsy and dISEMBOWELMENT is crazy.

[@Klous71]

Can you do a video on Drone metal please

[@NinesEpsilon]

Cheers for showing me Swallow the Sun, fantastic

[@lFakeReality]

Great video

[@hadielshal]

this is very intelligent, thank you

[@moralrevulsion_live]

Death doom is the real sinister kid of the subgenres same as doom noise in a More Synthesizers based Sound

[@anthonydiblasi5390]

Do you have a Facebook/ig i love the channel anything that blends Myers briggs videos and metal (doom focused) subgenres is so up my alley

[@whatsinameme5258]

I've got a discord server if you're not already in it.

[@anthonydiblasi5390]

​@@whatsinameme5258 where do i find the discord link?

[@whatsinameme5258]

@@anthonydiblasi5390 discord.gg/6AFynaYuQs

[@STALKERS4WD]

Thergotton was the grandfather of Funeral Doom but the band sadly changed over to pop music wtf...

[@Beastlango]

Ancestor’s Martyrium is very Death Doom, with a bit of black metal. If you do a video on black metal doom mixes their album The return of the Black Death is an amazing one

[@agentsimmons1]

Hey man, great video! Sorry to be that guy right now but do you know any Death Doom or Funeral Doom bands that use 100% clean vocals similar to Paradise Lost on their album Tragic Idol where they did all cleans?

[@davidavila8805]

Listen to Brave murder Day by Katatonia

[@lebarak69]

Paradise lost was even a proper death metal band before the goth

[@razmikaleksanyan1447]

Cool video!!!!

[@apolloxeon]

I still can't tell for sure what is the difference between Funeral Doom and "Depressive/S**cidal Black Metal", I mean it is Black Metal but the sound is a bit hard for me to distinguish. Additionally, what really is the difference between Sludge, Downtempo Deathcore and Blackened Death? I know I am throwing a lot out there but would appreciate if you, or anyone else reading this would educate me about it, because I can't for the life of me tell the difference without splitting hairs.

[@whatsinameme5258]

DSBM has a much stronger feeling of anguish. If Funeral Doom is mourning others, DSBM is mourning the self. Because of this, DSBM is considered a bit "emo" compared to normal Black Metal. I have even heard it called Blackcore by some people. Not sure I entirely agree with that name, but I see where they are coming from. Funeral Doom is more detached. The vocals are much more dispassionate. Less anguished. Instead of emotional black metal shrieks, its either somber clean vocals, or monotone death metal growls. It is less personal, because it is about others rather than the self. Instrumentally though, yes they are similar. As DSBM often has doom influence mixed in. Downtempo Deathcore in a VERY loose way, could be considered a Sludge offshoot. As they both mix Doom and Hardcore to varying degrees. Hope that helps!

[@apolloxeon]

@@whatsinameme5258 I see, however I still can't grasp downtempo deathcore, I listen to a lot of Blacktougue and that is my idea of it so it may/may not be the best representation, but obviously they obviously have next to none in terms of hardcore influence.. its mostly black and death metal. However I will be on the lookout for the downtempo deathcore video since you promised that a while back as maybe it may extrapolate on this more, sorry for replying late, love your videos man.

[@whatsinameme5258]

@@apolloxeon Thank you! That video will be my next!

[@fauzanree1983]

​@@apolloxeon down tempo deathcore = deathcore but slower Oversimplified but i think that's the simplest i can say. Deathcore has death metal + hardcore/metalcore influence whatever you feel is better. The genre simply feels like you're in the phase of deathcore songs when they get slower or when slow breakdowns. But there's a video on it out rn so have a look and see for yourself.

[@marymorris8442]

@@whatsinameme5258 Why does one want to feel these low vibrations? And isn't it harmefull for ones health? I am serious and never heard of these doom and death styles in music. I would think it would make one very sad. Maybe this is what one is seeking? I would hope one would want to feel uplifted with joy instead of gloom and doom.

[@siavashmarashi1393]

Anathema?

[@gday401]

U da best ✨❣️💕✨❣️💗

[@norman6524]

Why is your audio so much quieter than the song audio?

[@whatsinameme5258]

Is it just this one? Or does this criticism apply to my past videos?

[@danibeto]

Please made a video of Grindcore, noisegrind, pornogrind, etc

[@whatsinameme5258]

I'll get there eventually!

[@stoparret]

Still don't understand when 'doom metal' became 'death doom' or 'funeral doom'... When I was listening to it in the 90s, it was called 'doom metal'. What passes as doom metal now is just stoner metal.

[@radiosavior6361]

Before you'll cover Downtempo Deathcore, I want you to reflect on the fact that Nihilism isn't neccesairly just emptiness and sadness, but rather a rejection of social norms and structures SOCIETIES around the world enforce upon individual.

[@erwancrespo7142]

Chaos AD is Groove metal+crust punk, what???????

[@whatsinameme5258]

If you disagree do you mind telling me what you think it is? Sounds that way to me.

[@erwancrespo7142]

Chaos A.D is Groove Metal + Thrash Death+Industrial Metal+Hardcore Punk with Tribal influences.

[@erwancrespo7142]

@@whatsinameme5258 Chaos A.D is my favorite album.

[@whatsinameme5258]

@@erwancrespo7142 Fair. I mean Death + Thrash + Hardcore = Groove Metal anyway. And Crust is basically Metallic Punk. So we are pretty much saying the same thing with different words I think. The reason I think of Crust in relation to Chaos AD is the Anarchist spirit of it. That plus the Tribal influences lend to it's Anarcho-Primitivist vibe. It's my favourite Sepultura album too. I had one guy tell me it has to be from the UK to be Crust, but apparently some of Chaos AD was recorded in the UK, so... but yeah I'll leave it at that. Great record regardless. I guess there is a bit of Industrial, but that's more in the remix of Refuse Resist than anything else.

[@erwancrespo7142]

@@whatsinameme5258 It's cool 😎 Chaos ad is your favorite album.

[@kurtkish6970]

MDB!

[@AussoOnePlus]

Down Tempo mlodic death metal = DEAT DOOM?

[@davidavila8805]

Funeral doom isn’t similar to death doom honestly. Most of them just use similar vocals but everything else is just not similar.

[@kurtkish6970]

Bloodbath

[@gavinr4214]

I swear you said epic black metal was next? Lies make baby Jesusiaoth dark lord of the under realms cry tears of black blood of darkness

[@Lineage2Iowa]

Listen to worm

[@romratt]

Only mentioning 2 of the peaceville 3 and calling them gothicmetal is a disgrace to the genre.Paradise Lost,My Dying Bride and Anathema where the frontrunners of the deathdoom genre.Coming from the british grind/hardcore scene but focussing on the slow parts like Deviated Instinct did(grindcore band with a great deathdoom album). Obituary claim they where Celtic Frost/Hellhammer fanboys and if you had played Dethroned Emperor from Celtic Frost next to Slowly we rot you can hear it. Asphix started out as a death band when their later vocalist was still screaming his guts out in Pestilence(pure 80's death). Talking about Funeral Doom and not mentioning Sun O))) is a mistake and although I can't blame anyone Winter was influenced by the dutch band Necro Schisma This comes from someone who witnessed it all in the eighties,Hell my band even opened for Asphix and Paradise Lost on their first gig on this side of the northsea😜

[@Tradgoth1960]

Fork yeh

[@stefanlaroche400]

You lost me as soon as you mentioned swallow the sun , bye bye !

[@dzonnyblue3065]

just call it Boring Metal !