What are Psychogenic Movement Disorders? | Kati Morton

[@just.donutssss]

Your “welcome” is so warm that it even makes depressed people smile ❤️

[@matthewhenley783]

Suffered with this problem. Discouraging. Completely involuntary and aggravating. Thank you for describing because I don't know if there is much awareness of it.

[@Ueruchan]

Absolutely! I have to "hide" when I get panic attacks because they look like seizure and I can't afford more ambulance rides.

[@Christina-kc1zk]

@@Ueruchan same here. I have seizures every day from conversion disorder

[@maricelordonez3338]

I have pnes.. ihate it.icant able to work because of my conditions ..seizure its hurts so bad😭

[@CommonSenserules1981]

I was told I have Functional tremor - Is that the same as FND?

[@santiagopoznansky3014]

R U better?

[@magz7284]

I suffered from a conversion disorder - Psychogenic Non-Epileptic Seizures - back in 2014 and 2015. It was brought on by several traumatic events that occurred in a row. I didn’t realize that it was somatic until I came across the term PNES several years later, after the symptoms had stopped and I had given up on my neurologist. I could’ve sworn it was epilepsy. Scary stuff. I’m happy to answer any questions. I’ve done a lot of research on the topic. Great video, Kati.

[@libbycatherine]

I was diagnosed with PNES around the same time. Currently I'm diagnosed with panic disorder. Agoraphobia got bad while going through PNES. It's been difficult to understand because I had one doctor say to me about PNES that "it's all basically anxiety" (which felt really invalidating after all I'd been through) and seemed to conflict what the doctors at the hospital said who made it sound like a more complicated issue. Anyway, after diagnosis it lessened and now I rarely have seizures anymore. But I struggle with a lot of somatic symptoms, tics, sometimes neurological (like numbness), but without any explanation. I guess I'm just wondering if it's still "all basically anxiety", what the difference is between a PNES and a panic attack (because they feel different for me but maybe they're the same thing...I just don't know anymore) and what your thoughts are on this as someone who's been through similar? Edit/spelling

[@magz7284]

libbycatherine It’s my understanding that PNES is not the same as an anxiety disorder, but that anxiety/stress can be overwhelming enough to cause the disorder. It’s also linked to PTSD/trauma in many cases, including mine.

[@Katimorton]

Thank you so so much for offering!!! I am new to learning about this and obviously it's not my specialty.. so thank you for being a resource!! xoxox

[@KB-tr9kr]

I also have had these! It was so severe (multiple seizures a day for nearly two months) I had to go on medical leave from college. The worst part was the ER staff didn't know much about psychogenic seizures and so, because they couldn't find any organic cause, they decided I was faking the episodes. They ended up sending me to a psychiatric hospital because they thought I was literally crazy. Fortunately my inpatient care team was more trauma informed! Kati, I really appreciate you taking the time to educate yourself (and others) on topics you're unfamiliar with. It shows a lot of genuine compassion and desire to help people. Truly admirable qualities.

[@magz7284]

K Brooks I had a bad experience with a doctor too - my neurologist thought I was faking my seizures and blew me off after we found the medication wasn’t working. I ended up taking several incompletes for a semester because I couldn’t finish my classes. I was also having two to three psychogenic seizures a day. It wasn’t until recently that I found a doctor who has heard of PNES.

[@BlueJayXO81]

I never heard of this. I have ocd with tics. I've done lots of testing for tics and MRI and blood work came back normal. It doesn't fit the criteria exactly for Tourettes. Also, when someone distracts me it gets better but when I'm zoning out I tic like crazy. This is very interesting. Thank you, Kati 💜

[@Katimorton]

I hadn't either!!! I wondered how or if it could apply to you.. and I thought it was great to know that it can go away!! xoxo

[@PaulaMMH]

i was just going to say this! i have had tics for a long time, and the amount of tics increase as time goes by, i got an MRI done, etc and it came out fine too so its not due to tourettes but its my first time hearing about this, what i dont know is how they differentiate them from tics

[@122309A]

Functional Myoclonus

[@lierredaly1066]

There's no real test for Tourette's; you cannot "see it" in an MRI scanner. Somebody gets diagnosed with Tourette's if they display both verbal and motor tics. OCD is very common in people with Tourette's.

[@beckacheckaenterprises7294]

That’s right Tourette’s isn’t seen with an MRI.. Tourette’s is simply if you have tics in more than 2? muscle groups constantly and verbal tics (could be more than 2/3 muscle groups can’t remember BUT, it’s NOT diagnosed by an MRI so please double check how many muscle groups and if you have verbal tics that even include sniffing and clearing your throat often for no real reason) then you do have Tourette’s).

[@EmmaBGames]

I have Functional Neurological Disorder (AKA Conversion Disorder) caused by excessive prolonged stress at University (around a 9 on the stress scale, meaning I was constantly in a state of fight or flight whilst at university and doing university work) coupled with my Anxiety, Depression and suspected high functioning ASD. I presented to the emergency room with gait disturbance, partial paralysis (that came and went suddenly), blindness, tremors (vocal and physical) and myoclonus. Had CAT scan and MRI done and spent 4 days in the hospital. I was seen by many doctors and med students and had a diagnosis on day 4. I have spent a year recovering and still cannot drive, but I am finally healthy enough to rejoin the workforce when someone hires me. XD Thank you for the video. Much appreciated.

[@TrendyyWendyy]

EmmaBGames I have FND too! But mine was caused by a few severe sports injuries that have now left my right leg a complete mess and no longer functioning. I still don't understand how this happened and why my body reacted this way and all the physiotherapy I've had hasn't helped at all, nor has regular therapy. It's good to hear that someone else has this too!

[@jo-annahicks3324]

I am interested to know whether you had an infection, or were exposed to neurotoxins, like Round-up herbiside, or had a tick or spider bite, that predated this? A virus like Mono (Epstein Barr Virus/ Glandular Fever)? Have you ever had a SPECT scan? You might be interested in Dr Daniel Amen's work. Have you ever been tested for ME/CFS or MS or Parkinson's? That must have been a terrifying experience for you. So sorry that happened to you xo

[@EmmaBGames]

@@jo-annahicks3324 No to all of the above and was asked about all of the above in the hospital as well. I do know about Dr Amen. I have problems with my hormones which is genetic. When my body produces a hormone (like serotonin or cortisol or adrenaline etc.) it produces too much of every hormone. I am currently on hormone treatments since hospitalisation and have improved. It is funny how all of my life I have been told I overreact to things and now I know the reason why. Has never been my fault. Thank you for your concern and kind words! ^-^

[@EmmaBGames]

@- Charyn - It is labelled the same disorder in Australia.

[@CommonSenserules1981]

I was told I have Functional tremor - Is that the same as FND?

[@saraa3418]

I was diagnosed with a conversion disorder when I was a teenager. Thank you for being so empathetic to those of us with these issues. It was a really scary time. I didn't know why I was hitting myself or squeaking and I think they were really concerned it was something big. I spent time in the hospital. I had bloodwork done, an MRI, so many tests. And then the neurologist who diagnosed me was very dismissive, like I'd wasted everyone's time or something. It's been 18 years and things are better, but I know that my anxiety is really bad when my right hand goes rigid and quivering and then I hit myself in the forehead. As much as it hurts to do that, it's a relief because I can then move my hand again. Last year, after white knuckling through life, I finally got on anti-depressants and they've really helped.

[@theresaleszczynski9757]

Hi Kati. I had never heard of this disorder until today. I suffer from anxiety and I have a tremor that comes and goes with varying levels of stress. Interesting topic that you have chosen to cover. Thank you for your time in researching and presenting this topic Kati. I really appreciate your efforts!

[@Katimorton]

I hadn't heard of it either.. so it was interesting to learn about. I am glad you found it helpful and educational :) xoxo

[@jo-annahicks3324]

Temporary tremors can come on from adrenaline surges, as well

[@jodifritz9365]

I have a movement disorder. The doctors were determined that it was psychogenic and kept telling me if I go to therapy I will be cured, and were very rude about it too. I knew something else was wrong just as a lot of people do when they are diagnosed with this disorder. Yes, it can be caused by trauma. However, I am seeing a therapist and she confirmed that there is no way mine is from my mental state. We have found my largest trigger to be my sensory processing disorder which I was born with. And we are now finding that I am a perfect example of a vagus nerve dysfunction which can cause seizure like convulsions. People need to be aware that when you are told that you have this, it doesn’t always mean it stems from trauma. Please if you can feel something is wrong with your body, there probably is. You know your body better than anyone else. I was yelled at by an epilepsy specialist and told if I just accept it, it will go away. Turns out that is not even remotely true. I am starting to meet more and more people that aren’t being “cured” with this and I want people to be aware of the misdiagnosis that happens too much with this disorder. If you do have this and therapy has help, I am so happy you have gotten relief because movement disorders are no joke.

[@saphira2323]

I appreciate this comment! My mom has been diagnosed with a PMD and it’s always helpful to hear from other people who have been through something similar. There are reasons to believe it is a PMD with her but it’s always good to check for other possibilities so it’s helpful to know this was missed for you, as it definitely couldn’t hurt to look into for her to rule out that option if it can present in a similar way. Thank you!

[@chelseah.9577]

Thank you for validating what I’ve been calling my “anxious tic.”

[@ktxu2181]

5:00 Your hypothesis about this kind of tic relating to PTSD or Complex PTSD hits quite close to home. I have had tics, jerks, and spasms in hand with PTSD flashbacks, and never had any explanation for it. I tried telling a therapist about it once only for her to tell me I was making it up. So this is very validating :)

[@nateo200]

Interesting. I've been having a ton of spasms I assumed were related to nerve problems from issues with my neck. I wonder if stellate ganglion block could fix this?

[@examinestairs712]

I have full body jerks and movements that make it hard to walk sometimes, or even stand up. Its exhausting and I'm so tired of it. Its not constant but on a bad day it can be. Thanks for posting this, I know it was years ago but I've been trying to work out what's going on for ages and this is the first video that makes sense to me.

[@cdgarrett1]

I met a young girl at the SSA waiting for her appointment. She looked very fatigued like she hadn’t slept in a very long while and was about to pass out but her body kept making involuntary movements constantly never giving her one moment of rest. She sat next to me and I asked her if she was sleepy because she was about to nod out on my shoulder. She talked very well so I knew it wasn’t some mental condition or drugs and alcohol. Later after our appointments I asked her if it would be alright if I prayed for her. She wanted that and even asked others on the sidewalk to join in the prayer. But then her ride showed up and she had to leave. The young lady was tormented by something that wasn’t giving her a moment’s rest, I knew what that felt like before Yeshua healed me of acute Trigeminal Neuralgia. Thanks for your video explaining a possibility of what this was.

[@kjmarie3953]

I have these full body twitches whenever i get anxious and one time i was at my friends house and i got one and fell of the chair😂

[@emrose333]

Katie Jo I have those too, except it usually mainly happens In bed. You are not the only one :)

[@mputrariyadi6557]

Me too, What and my movements look abnormal for some seconds🤧. What's name of the disease did u know?

[@Dooms-Daisy]

This is probably anxiety induced tics

[@keinette9899]

bruh at work my muscles b goin crazy🕺🏾🤛🏾🤏🏾💃🏾🖖🏾🧍🏾‍♀️

[@PatriciaSadriWriter]

@@emrose333 this happens to me too. In bed and when I am stressed or sad.

[@mslaurengracee]

Kati😍😍 this video is perfect! I have PNES and I've had it since I was in elementary school. I'm 20 now and despite the fact that I have this (I rarely have them now though!) I graduated high school, was captain of the cheer team, and I'm in college getting my BA in psych! For anyone suffering with a disorder like this, know that it gets so much better.. after I decided to judge how well I was doing based on factors outside of how many seizures I had a day, a weight was lifted off my shoulders. It's still there and it's been over 10 years, but I'm so happy and every day I do things I never thought I would be able to (cheer stunts, 5k's)

[@jaderoberts659]

You are so inspiring. This is what I needed. Thank you, and you are amazing.

[@sticmatic]

I'm an occupational therapist. I treated a boy's psychogenic paralysis, he was in a wheelchair, not able to walk at all and had to regain actual motor skills. since I met his family it made sense to me ...how the atiology might have happened... anyhow, it was one of the most interesting and pleasing experiences in my life so far. I heard, he's playing basketball right now

[@emilyraaserud6437]

Thank you so much for making this video. I’ve been waiting for someone to make a video about this. I’ve been on a long health journey, i had to medically withdrawal from school. My doctors are trying to figure it out and if the next round of tests come back normal, we can say my symptoms are psychogenic. It’s hard to accept that it’s even still an option. It was really comforting and validating to hear you speak about it. Thank you for making me feel not so alone. Thank you for all you do!❤️

[@Kelslshea]

So close to 1 million. Youre helping millions of people !!! So inspiring 💙💙

[@charlie.tt4]

Thank you so much for this video, Kati! My left eye twitches a lot, to the point where people constantly point it out to me. I have noticed in the past that it’s definitely a lot worse whenever I feel especially anxious and/or depressed, but so far I’ve never really questioned it or realized that it’s an actual thing that can be treated. It is also more bothersome than painful, so I’ve never really searched for help, writing it off as something random and insignificant. Thanks for putting so much effort and research into your videos. I hope you realize they help a lot of people, even if it’s just with something as small as a twitching eye or finally finding the courage to seek out help.

[@ralsharp6013]

Charlotte this is happening to a friend of mine. Her doctor put it down to the lithium based bipolar medication she's on. .(tics or TD) She's super keen for her neurology appointment at the end of June, for a clearer diagnosis and understanding. I feel Mortified for her, because this medication has agreed with her and kept her stable for well over 30 years.. Something like this can be so confronting and rips the security blanket straight out from under a person..

[@samster4955]

Thank you so much for talking about this! I live with conversation disorder and have all of these pmd types sadly and it's no fun I've lived with it for 7 years and I have found through my therapist that it was triggered by my trauma from my childhood seizures and now any type of significant stress like my cat dying yesterday made one start and I have found that hot yoga and therapy with my LCSW helps me so much. I also had my anxiety disorders start before along with my depression. In Kansas there's not much knowledge on this sadly. So that makes it really hard to live with but I do hot yoga everyday and that has significantly decreased my anxiety and pain. - much love from Sammy!

[@Skyisthelimit1037]

Hey hi! So glad to read your problems actually reduced... But can you please tell me what is hot yoga? As I do face with lot of anxiety n shivering issues... Thank you in advance 🙏

[@TheHuber26]

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[@_just_TK]

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[@Katimorton]

Awe you are too sweet Billy!! I am so glad you found our community, and know that you are such an important part of it :) xoxox

[@mondrian5620]

I used to think I was alone and I’ve never talked about this with anyone at all until, for some reason, I commented here. Anytime I think about something that gives me stress or anxiety, I literally go into a fetal position and can’t stop shaking for a few minutes but it’s only specific things like health concerns or something serious. I definitely need to dive into more research about this. Thank you uploading this video.

[@Catinthehackmatrix]

Some anxiety attacks or panic attacks, agoraphobia's will cause you tremor all over, and even cause sudden bowl movements. You even can feel colder, shake, and adrenaline rush all at the same time, its a flight or fight reaction I believe. Had this for over 20 years now. A high dose of caffeine can even cause similar stuff, just my experience.

[@rishithasepoy2195]

I too have the similar disorder

[@BEFREEANDLIVELIFE]

O wow me to some times with in 15 minutes of thinking of something that bothers me I start shaking uncontrollable from my legs to my face I get blurry vision and really hot and chills not all in the same order it's nice to see I'm not alone ❤ I have been diagnosed with anxiety had started wellbutrin a month ago. Hope someone sees this and it helps them like your comment helped good luck to everyone reading this stay strong ❤

[@GlitterMotel]

As someone with FND/Conversion, thank you. Alot of doctors think it's in your head because of the physical tests coming back fine. And most people think "oh that's so me lol! me too!". It's debilitating, and not just a little panic attack. It needed this recognition. Thank you again.

[@gk-pi2bv]

I’m taking my first psychology class this year, and it’s so exciting when i hear you mention a term or concept i learned before and genuinely understand what it means. I’ve never heard of PMD, but i’ve studied conversion disorder. Obviously i’m no professional but i’m very interested in psychology. Thank you for continuing to teach and raise awareness about mental health 💜

[@Kaejennings]

I have muscle tics. I've had them for years. I had one of my doctors actually suggest this... But the others believe it's actually fallout from my neuropathy for not geting treated for over 15 years. So if you have tics and spasms and such talk to your doctor. Don't let it go it may be something really important.

[@katherinestahl7641]

I'm in grad school for mental health counseling, with a focus in Dance/Movement Therapy (DMT). I think that DMT can also be really helpful in treating PMDs, because we focus a lot on the mind/body connection and expressing/understanding emotion through movement expression. For a person with a PMD, movement may become a big source of anxiety-- a DMT may be able to address this anxiety and potentially work on changing the relationship between the client and their involuntary movements.

[@LorraineIwakashdan]

Yes. I agree. This is why CBT does not work for some people. The mind has to disconnect from the body in order to do it and it is thinking about it'self! Dance therapy or movement therapy can really help people to connect the mind and body together but the focus is actually out of the self and in the moment.

[@Noor-xi1bd]

Hi kati, What would a school counselor do when a student comes to them while they are having a panic attack?

[@nope968]

Noor Channel I Wonder this too!

[@emileehoerl98]

As a person who suffered from panic attacks in high school, I would say this: 1) give them a place to be away from other students for a few minutes 2) get them water 3) try to make conversation that’s not about the panic. If you keep talking about it, it could continue or feel worse. As for what to do after, I have no idea. But hopefully this helps

[@Katimorton]

They would probably work to calm you down, help you breathe, and give you a safe place to do all of this until you are ready to go back to class or go home. xoxo

[@skeletar85]

Sometimes the counsellor is fully booked up and will be unable to see you, but going to a school nurse is always a good move too. They can give you a place to stay and a chat if u want or to be left alone. I dont suffer with panic attacks but this is what i do in emergencies/before emergencies

[@lOwlEyesl]

I also suffer from random panic attacks. To piggyback off of Emilee Hoerl's comment I would just add that it is important NOT to say the words 'calm down'. That can be very frustrating and usually just makes things worse. Instead encourage the afflicted person by telling them that they are ok, they are safe and that you will be near by if they need to talk. Offer tissues (there might be tears). Then just let them be for 30-60min. Visual/auditory distractions are also very helpful. If you can make them laugh, great! (My service dog is very good at this.) Eventually though- they will need to talk about the panic attack; analyze it. Was there a reason for it? (mine don't always have one) if not, getting them grounded, focused on the here and now and their next task is key.

[@blondie-1112]

I love your videos kati. I watch them between my sessions with my therapist and they really help. Thankyou

[@Katimorton]

Awe I am so glad!!! Yay!! xoxo

[@flowerpower3618]

Finally I have a name for my stress jerking.

[@emrose333]

Lauri Snipes sameee

[@jaderoberts659]

Yes, me too.

[@pablowoods1848]

And my body twitches...

[@mattarmstrong1320]

Hi Kati, I really wanted to say thank you for being an amazing resource for me. Of course, you aren't the only person out there, but you have helped me immensely. I'm a freshman in college, but in 5th grade, I had a very traumatic brain injury. It caused short-term memory loss, and shortly after, transient tic disorder. School has exasperated them even more, but it's okay haha! You are part of the reason I'm planning on getting my masters either as an MFT, an adolescent therapist, or working in a psych ward. You make me feel as though I'm not alone. With much love, Matthew

[@PRoseLegendary]

I constantly went to hospital for severe abdominal pain as a kid and they could never find anything. Looking back now, I think I had a somataform disorder. No one asked any questions about my mental health. I mean, if they had asked me, I would have told them about the bullying, sexual abuse, and parentifying I experienced as a young carer of parents with disabilities... ERs and GPs need to be better at identifying Mental Health issues in kids presenting with unexplained health issues.

[@alyssahowell5167]

Never heard of this, but love that little hypothesis you had. I have gotten so much information from you that has helped me to know how to deal with my complex ptsd and various other disorders. I'm finally getting treatment and addressing issues I didn't want to realize I have. I had a tremor go through my body when you were talking about the Psychogenic Myoclonus, honestly I really think you are right about that. Really related to this and now have a new term to look into and better understand my illnesses and find the correct treatments for myself. What you're doing is amazing and so helpful. Some of my trauma is related to doctors and treatments so is been a long hard journey but thanks to you and the power of research and sheer will, now have some tools and terms so I have hope that perhaps there is a way to get better.

[@danielcohen2519]

Your videos help me a lot. I have a hard time dealing with my issues alone. Knowing that you understand and therefore some others must as well was the first step in me getting out of the house. I'm now a full time psychology major (online), i still deal with depression and anxiety but it gave me the courage to get out and talk to people. I left my house behind and am now hiking the C&O Canal. I enjoy meaningful conversations with others almost every day. (Something i thought impossible) It all started with you, thank you for giving me the courage to confront my afflictions. Keep up the good work.

[@renepeters945]

Thank you for this video. I have been waiting for it for a long time. 💜 I have psychogenic non-epileptic seizures several times a day and I am going to share this with a group I've been going to.

[@ayabe_ayabe]

I've never heard of this before, so yay for new information. I've noticed that when I'm in social situation for too long without a break, having to talk to somebody or talking in front of a group of people (I was a tour guide for three years), there comes this moment where my neck stiffens up more and more, making it hard to move my head from side to side. After that there's this sudden movement where my head just snaps to the right side. It's so embarrassing, I hate it when that happens, I've become so self conscious because of it. I didn't know that such "ticks" were a "thing".

[@madalinalauramoise2824]

I'm happy that i found your comment here, as i share the same tic. I just became aware one week ago and just today i started to search about it. I am so amazed by this video and your comment as well, as i also didn't know it was a "thing". Initially i have thought i just slept bad with my neck somehow and during the day i just stretch my head uncouciously on that area, until i realised my uncontrollabe somehow movements worsen it.. Now i feel my neck tense and hope to get rid of it soon. I remember having several other tics before in my life... and it's true they didn't stay for long, and it eventually came back returned to another form. Pfff shall i really see someone?

[@GlenHunt]

*Q:* How would I get a new therapist to believe me when I say that many CBTs have been tried again and again and again without results, that I generally don't think in words but in images? I'm not unique, and I do appreciate their effort, but it really is maddening.

[@sarahjane9354]

I have the same problem. Not sure where you're from but in the UK I think a lot of therapists/counsellors are mainly only trained in cbt so can't offer much else. I'm now looking into more expensive help where therapist's may specialise in more specific things. It's a pain to spend more money but help is important. You just have to do your research

[@lunacouer]

Maybe ask them "What treatments do you typically use with clients?", and if they say "CBT" in there, just explain what you did here, that it has never worked for you, no matter how hard you and past therapists have tried. Explain how you think in images. Then go from there? They may customize the concepts to work more with visuals, or try something totally different. And if they insist that you have to start all over with CBT, you have your answer - move on. I don't think you have to convince a therapist of anything. If they aren't willing to work with you to find a way that will actually help, versus trying to force you to work their way, it's just not a good fit.

[@LorraineIwakashdan]

Perhaps it's because even though very briefly CBT actually focuses in on the problem or tendency and not out. Maybe something like Gestalt or Art therapy where you are not focused on the symptom but off the symptom might help? Also, some with neurological or physchoneurological symptoms find sport can help. Anything you feel engaged in that is outside of yourself and connects your body with your mind really. Just saying.

[@augustaporter3735]

Sometimes I feel like I have a vibration inside me. Then I can along jerk and things fly out of my hand. Then I can go into a uncomfortable full body movement.

[@AlintaMcMurdo]

I know people who have been diagnosed with this but who actually had a tick-borne infection in their brain. Lots of people with this diagnosis also get a factitious disorder/munchausen syndrome diagnosis when what they really needed was a doctor that was good at their job and antibiotics.

[@PaulaMMH]

I so wish all psychologists did the research you do, i call my movements tics, everytime i mention them i say tics, but nobody ever diagnosed me, not even the psychiatrist, i was even told by my last psychologist that she doubted i have any form of tic or movement or anything cause she couldnt see my tics during sessions, until one day i started to tic before a session and kept moving my neck during the whole session, she clearly didnt know what to say about it, people really do think one is making things up when they cant really see the movements or symptoms, and they dont get it when you tell them you cant control when they come ago and that they can dissapear completely for weeks, even months and then come back out of nowhere. Mine come and go, and it doesnt depend on my anxiety level, i could be completely fine and 3 tics show up at the same time and i cant control them at all

[@stephanieandsophia]

Oh my goodness, I was so terrified when this started happening last November. It came out of nowhere and left just as soon but my whole body started twitching and I went to hospital to be said it was a panic attack. Then in June it happened again and happened almost every day before my exams. I figured out it was stress related and now I can tell when I feel 'twitchy but episodes could last like 2 hours

[@stephanieandsophia]

I have a psychogenic tremor

[@Mariam-pc5fr]

And did you find a treatment please ?

[@jeanettamcginley5038]

I found this really interesting. I have psychogenic non-epileptic seizures. Interesting to learn more about this similar set of challenges people face. It's definitely a challenge in my life and a real issue that affects my life.

[@AlisonNorton.]

Are pbsycogenic seizures the same as a normal one?

[@lozza0810]

Never heard of this. Always love any new information, thanks Kati! Would love if you could do a video sometime on having a parent on the autism spectrum :) xx

[@Katimorton]

I am glad you enjoying learning along with me :) I can definitely add that to my list!! xoxo

[@EsteemedMeat]

Kati Morton you should do “Are school therapists/counselors helpful?”

[@jaderoberts659]

Thank you for this video. It gave some validation to what I have been experiencing for years. I believe I have a psychogenic movement disorder in the form of head jerks. This has led to secondary behaviors that have caused my body a lot of distress in the attempt to avoid the involuntary movement. It came on suddenly and lasted a couple of years. After going to a doctor about it, the 'condition' mysteriously disappeared and then came back with the single thought of remembering that I used to have it. Just recently, I have realized that the term psychogenic disorder, which I have studied about in other contexts, could indeed apply to me. This video made me believe this even more firmly. I hope to get a 'team' that can help me through this, and it is helpful to know the right care can help.

[@jamieeast7645]

I have a Conversion Disorder, I go blind at random times in my life. The blindness lasts different times, sometimes vision is gone for a few days or longest was four months. Conversion Disorder can be really scary.

[@jamieeast7645]

@Jarah I have not found anything that helps me more than making sure I am keeping track of stress. I have Dissociative Identity Disorder. So for me having a Conversion Disorder and DID it is super important to stress manage and to do the same for anxiety. High levels of either can trigger a Conversion Disorder episode. For me I have learned this.

[@burnpoet]

I have schizophrenia and was taking anti-psychotics and I developed facial tics, shoulder shrugs, and my fingers tap and move involuntary. It's crazy how anti-psychotics can induce parkinson's disease.

[@shazamichelle2043]

I took sertraline and ended up with involuntary movements. I have come across many who have developed these problems on medication & when withdrawing. Akathasia is more often than not misdiagnosed as psychogenic or FND. DIMD ..... Drug induced movement disorders are not psychogenic, but often diagnosed as such. Do you still have the involuntary movements? Best wishes.

[@ThunderTech-99]

I found this very helpful thankyou, iv had this for a few years and never could explain it, i think i have always been on the spectrum and have ptsd but knew it stems further than most. I get tics and strange moments that are unexplainable and uncontrollable, i'v spoken to many doctors who don't have a clue what im saying. This has so far given me more understanding and hope to get better than i'v ever had so far

[@chrissyxg9461]

I've noticed that when I'm incredibly stressed and feel overwhelmed, my body experiences internal vibrations in my hands and legs. Not sure if it's a form of some sort of panic or anxiety attack.

[@asleighnuneza6419]

Chrissy XG me too. Whenever i get anxious there are vibrations around my legs

[@Underhills]

Do they go away if you drink alcohol?

[@augustaporter3735]

I understand

[@tiffanizedthesecond]

Thank you for this video. My daughter started having some severe involuntary movements upon hospitalization and tonight I thought she was having a seizure. We are still in the process of making sure there isn’t a medical cause but I feel like I can sleep tonight now that I know PMD is probably what she’s experiencing.

[@TashaHalligan]

I experienced this very frequently and I used to have jerky movements all the time through the day and night (even in my sleep)! These were not painful but sometimes made me conscious that people might notice because it would send a jerk through my whole body! Thankfully during my recovery this has rapidly decreased and it's only very now and again i experience this!

[@jaderoberts659]

Tasha, would you mind sharing what recovery looked like for you?

[@macintoshimann9892]

Recovery is definitely possible. I was in a bad car crash over 3 years ago that left me unable to move my head back. This progressed into full blown dystonia which caused my body to curl up til I couldn’t breath. It caused so much pain it was unreal but using music I’ve been able to teach my mind how to talk to my neck again. It took months just to calm the nerves down, 6 before I saw any improvement in mobility but now that it’s starting its coming back fast. Yesterday I was able to reprogram my sense of up and down, left and right and got smooth movements instead of jerky ones. Getting out of bed was different today my body’s knew how to stand upright! Ive been told a few times I’ll never recover but instead I plan to learn to dance!!!🎉

[@patchworkperspective1733]

I have dissociative identity disorder and what’s helped me deal with PMD the most is getting to know my alters. Different alters have different movement issues. Their symptoms have lessened as they have started to heal by speaking with our therapist.

[@Owlberightback]

It took me 8 years to get a final diagnosis of a FND with tics and occasionally the inability to talk. Originally I was told I had epilepsy after a neurologist asked me if I wanted epilepsy or migraines and I just responded with “I want to know what’s wrong with me.”

[@sarahbaron9914]

I really hope you've gotten better care since then.

[@crazycath8710]

This is the video I was told to watch to understand my psychogenic tremors. Thank you ❤

[@patchworkperspective1733]

Whoa, I’ve never heard what I experience explained like this!! Thank you!

[@randomyoutuber8257]

My neurologist said that my history of depression caused my tics but I have just gotten over my depression by a long and hard 4 years with a change in environment and support from friends who refused to give up on me. They (the tics) started after I had really gotten better and any time I go back into a depressive episode my tics stop. I was diagnosed with Functional Movement Disorder based off tics alone. I really want to trust this diagnosis but when she gave the the packet I related more with the organic side and the next time I saw her I brought up my concerns and she said she doesn't see a need to change the diagnosis. I really need to see the physical therapist but the first one I saw told me I'm not exhibiting the symptoms they typically see in patients with my disorder and couldn't help me. It is honestly a frustrating situation I have found myself in.

[@Fido-vm9zi]

I had shivers today I will never forget.

[@crystalpixley7690]

My tremor, numbness, tingling, partial paralysis, dystonia, and myoclonus all came on pretty suddenly, and changed or came and went frequently and without warning. There had been symptoms for years before, but they had been minor enough to easily ignore or blame on other things. Suddenly, after a traumatic set of events, they were beyond ignoring. My neurologist ran all the possible tests and found no evidence of neurological illness. He referred me to a movement disorder specialist, who told me “conversion disorder” is an outdated idea, that doctors tend to lump people under that diagnosis simply because dystonias are still largely a mystery, even to the top experts, and because most dystonias are triggered or worsened by stress (in addition to other factors such as temperature change, fatigue, or exercise.) There is not enough research to provide the answers needed to correctly diagnose and help people, so it’s easier to tell patients that they’re experiencing a strictly psychological issue. He started me on a Levodopa trial and I responded very positively. My diagnosis is generalized dopa-responsive dystonia, and treatment gave me my life back.

[@marionoschelmuller1718]

I have a few comments to this: For one: trembling when you are stressed or anxious or when you were traumatized or had a potentially traumatizing event happen is not a disorder. And pls don't think that there is something wrong with you if you do. It is actually the opposite: The reaction of a healthy nervous system being allowed to act freely in order to release survival energy. Now of course you can get stuck if you don't physically release the trauma or work on the anxiety (which mostky gies hand in hand). And as Kati mentioned I believe too that certain 'ticks' but I also think the more slow movements can be caused by trauma. Type in: 'Ray's story Peter Levine' in youtube for example and you will see how in this example it is clearly linked (he was falsely diagnosed with tourete's syndrom, pmd would be a more accurate description) as you can imagine when there was some movement you wanted to make to protect yourself from a threat but you couldn't finish it, because it would have been too dangerous, you were too powerless or it hapoened too quickly... and the body needs to finish the movement, but keeps getting stuck until you have enough grounding and safety, resources and take all the time you need to really pay attention to your movements and are ideally guided by a body-oriented trauma therapist, which I think in this case would be an important addition to Kati's list for the treatment team. I am not saying that talk therapy couldn't also be beneficial but if you really want to heal it, it's just not helpful to just try to 'manage the symptoms' or drug them away. But I am not suggesting that trauma per se is the only reason for pmd. If you already have 'ocd' or 'autism' (not convinced of such labels) it can also be a secondary symptom of the person's state, a try to sooth, regain savety, controll and lots if other things probably, where cbt can probably be somewhat helpful.

[@CarolanneIAMTHEQUANTUM]

I have ptsd from domestic violence and trauma. I shiver when I'm scared. I didn't realize until years later that there was a word for it...

[@etkruzan2933]

I am literally JUMPING with JOY after seeing this video! I’ve had PTSD for 40+ YEARS in addition to a BIZARRE movement disorder that I was MISDIAGNOSED and heavily MEDICATED for many years. When my children were young they joined the neighborhood kids who called me “Humperdink” and I joked that I was the “original Mexican Jumping Bean” in an effort to pretend it didn’t bother me. I was accused of being on drugs because of my bizarre twitching and rocking movements, but I knew in my heart that it was ALL because of my severe PTSD. How can I learn more about this?? I created #ETwithPTSD in an effort to get better.

[@mikaeladevries1776]

I have nonepileptic seizures with conversion disorder. It's horrible, but as I always tell myself things could be worse. When my thoughts start rushing or if sounds and sights sound like anything in a hospital I start having partial seizures but at appointments will have full psychogenic seizures

[@KMWeir]

I haven’t heard if this. But it got my attention. In 1996 I started having seizure like episodes. The medical doctors found nothing ‘organic’ causing these. I was so fortunate to have an excellent doctor. He did many tests and was very thorough. He finally told me that these episodes were psychological. Many other odd symptoms started showing and I was unable to even care for myself for several months.I was hospitalized and diagnosed with depression, PTSD and later DID. My neurologist is great. He refers to my episodes as non-epileptic seizures rather than pseudo seizures. In other words, he’s validated what’s happening with me isn’t ‘fake.’ I have learned s lot in therapy and now take a very low dose of medication for these and rarely have a seizure. But. . . I wonder if what you share here is connected to what I’m experiencing. It’s so hard to explain to people what I go through. Sometimes my muscles tense. Other times I twitch. The worst ones are the ones when I hit the floor and don’t remember most of what happens. The strange thing is I do remember what happens often and there’s a correlation to this experience of nervous system ‘overload’ and flashbacks. Sometimes I am fighting for my life. It’s quite nuts bc it’s like I’m fighting an imaginary attacker. Am I right to think what you’re sharing here is what I’m experiencing? If not, I’d be interested in your thoughts. Thanks!

[@jo-annahicks3324]

Temporary tremors, can be caused by adrenaline surges, as well

[@sloppykat666]

Is there a community for people with conversion disorders or specifically psychogenic movement disorders? I've had this disorder since 2017. I strongly believe it has done damage to my brain because I have done the work, I no longer have anxiety other than normal anxiety. I deal with it when it does come on and have wonderful skills to get me through it. I strongly want to help others based on my own experiences.

[@jessicalorraine1170]

Hi Kati I usually love watching your videos and although I find this really interesting, i found a few things you said slightly inaccurate/uncomfortable. Parkingsons disease can and often effects both side of the body. You kept referring the PMDs as “not caused by a medical issue”. PMDs are a medical issue, not referring to them as such could add to the stigma around somatic disorders. Looking forward to your next videos xx

[@KB-tr9kr]

Although I admittedly don't know much about Parkinson's, I think all she meant was that PMDs, though certainly a medical issue, are not caused by anything organic.

[@withthelightsout8518]

@@KB-tr9kr Everything is organic, even if only at a molecular level. Psychiatric disorders are organic, as well. But I know what you meant.

[@kirstenatencio6109]

I am chronically ill. Diagnosed with a slew of medical conditions, abnormal tests, and have pretty severe anxiety. I am also a woman and am 27 years old, I have been chronically ill for about 6 years. I work, go to school am a homemaker and care for my two children. I have been told that I have MS, Fibromyalgia, and arthritis. I found out a few years ago I have a rare genetic disorder called EDS, which explains my chronic pain and hyper-flexibility. It does not, however, explain my neurological symptoms or my abnormal MRI's. Doctors have been at a loss for those symptoms for years and have been kicking me thru a slew of specialists. Now, with all of these things being said, I have been told these things could all be from anxiety. And honestly, it enrages me. "conversion disorder" is a fancy new label doctors are putting on what they are TRULY diagnosing, HYSTERIA. And who are they mainly diagnosing hysteria in? Women. The same condition they "diagnosed" woman with years ago who were actually dealing with "PPD or PPS" or because they were clinically "non-straight" and I for one am SUPER DUPER over it. I absolutely know that there are physical manifestations of mental illness and that there are "chronic malingerers". But doctors have now abused it as a label for anything they themselves cant diagnose and it is infuriating.

[@_just_TK]

This is an AWESOME video!! I have such a strong background in Psychology (both education & personal) that it’s rare I get the excitement and thrill of learning something completely new to me. Thank you for the intellectual stimulation this morning!!!!! ❤️❤️❤️

[@Katimorton]

Any time!!! xoxo

[@halitrainor2872]

I also suggest a MRI of the cervical spine to make sure an injury here is not the cause of it, as it could have impacted the vagus nerve- triggering the movement disorders.

[@forsheepsakes]

I have a friend who struggles severely with this and can’t even hold a job. She can’t get help from the state to see any doctors because they need her to go to the doctors that are extremely expensive but she can’t pay for them because she doesn’t have a job because she can’t do the job Because she has this disorder. What do you do for people like this? Getting medical care in this day and age is a luxury that only rich people can afford. Just one man’s opinion.

[@skateranddancer]

When I was 11, I started limping after a stretch in a ballet class. Very immediately got a limp. My mom took me to the pediatrician and the X-rays came back clear. I was back in 3 more times over the next 6 weeks, and the pediatrician finally told my mom he thought I had a PMD. My mom took me to our chiropractor who asked to look at the X-rays before working on me. He looked at the same X-rays 2 radiologists said we’re clear, and he immediately diagnosed slipped capital femoral epiphesis. The femur was slipped on the growth plate. The most common hip injure in adolescents my age. Lol, this is why I have trust issues.

[@katiswan3160]

Thank you Kati for creating this wonderful video and giving me some tools to use. This is a great topic to talk about.

[@cd4536]

I was having complex partial seizures for 2+ years. They eventually said it was psychogenic but it turned out to be caused by the anti seizure medication I was taking for my bipolar. It was building up in my blood and too much of that medicine can cause seizures. That was rough.

[@joninarebekka2966]

I'm so devastated. its so expensive to go to a neurologist and I went one time and I wrote down every single reason I could imagine could be even the slightest related to my spasms and twitches, I noted my siblings also get their own forms of twitches and tremors, and that they significantly increased or maybe even started when I started taking drugs for depression, anxiety and more which I already got significant side effects from, and then after more and more way down the bottom of the list I mentioned trauma, which I just thought as a desperate "maybe this could have something to do with it" and instead of taking me to a brain scan or something of the sort, she was CERTAIN it was that, and saw the smallest tiniest barely even a twitch of mine and she was like "Yeah thats what you have" And yeah, maybe it could be "somewhat" related to how I'm generally feeling but I get them even when I'm having a really great time! And she was like "yeah thats your subconscious" - which sounds like bullshit to me Its really making me frustrated because I hate this diagnosis, it just sounds like a load of shit to me, I really wish I could've gotten just a "oh, you have tourettes, everybody knows what THAT is and it makes sense" or "oh, you have this neruological condition, takes these drugs and you'll be fine" like yeah, there are worse neurological conditions out there but I can't just explain myself with people with like "uh yeah like I've had trauma thats what this is, it can't be described as any actual medical condition" I'm just getting so frustrated over this.. I really hate this diagnosis and I'm starting to get so angry about my tics

[@MR-qw5wb]

I’m so sorry :( That’s the worst

[@caitytimms3690]

anyway i was diagnosed with conversion disorcer and psychogenic movement disroder for 12 years before i was diagnosed with a neurological condition that actually has ruined my life. doctors are so keen to talk about these other things but when there's actual work to be done behind a diagnosis they don't wanna do it. wild.

[@buffy377]

Fibromyalgia is the outcome of many psychological issues. My body does this, random times random areas. I have BPD, CPTD, Depression, anxiety and many others.

[@traceymoloney6960]

Same I was diagnosed with fibro after a very bad car accident

[@tatianaa.4259]

I woke up with a burning chest, got anxious, googled saw Parkinsons, freaked myself out now I'm laying in bed trying to calm down and sleep and for the FIRST time my HEAD is like literally trembling on the pillow and If I take it off the pillow it gets worse im freaking out!! Now my arms and legs feel weak and my heart rate is up 😭 I have several anxiety and panic but I didnt feel any out right attacks today, which is why I am so spooked.

[@BallettmitKira]

hey Kati, I'd love to have some more information about psychosomatic pain, can you please talk about the symptoms and how to distinguish it from "normal" pain and what to do about it? :)

[@LorraineIwakashdan]

That would be a good subject to cover - especially as some people experience both.

[@rosemiller8763]

I Was waiting for your video . 🌸💕 really appreciate your hard work 💓💓💓kati . Thank you for this video 💖 . 🌸

[@Katimorton]

You are so welcome!! I hope it was helpful!! xoxo

[@bellaandsevy5338]

I have actually never heard of this! Love to learn new mental health things

[@taylorbarnett1199]

Kati can you do a video about psycho somatic pregnancies or when someone fakes a pregnancy due to mental illness but then they truly believe they are pregnant and have symptoms

[@HonoluluTita]

When I am really stressed the corner of my eye twitches. Or ta tiny muscle in my shoulder. But I always considered it a physical result of too much stress chemicals in my body. After many many years of therapy I still have an exaggerated startle response at times. Not sure how to lessen this.

[@arshednahidh3840]

Thanks alot . 🇮🇶 your video is so informative and helpful

[@ha181293]

I have had this happen once when I was around 10 or 11, it was very unpleasant and scary to have your body act in this way involantarily. We were eating dinner and then BOOM my muscles in my back just contracted spontantaniously, I even fell of the chair, had no way of explaining this and of course I got chewed out for 'not behaving' at the dinner table. It was like a lightning struck and gone in an instant

[@jasonjackson3114]

Yep. Good video. A month ago I had to stop Mirtazapine cold turkey. I felt compelled to take extra doses and tried reducing off them many times without success. After the acute withdrawal which lasted 2 weeks, there was a rebound depression which has been going on for about a further 3 weeks. Feeling like I had the flu, crying, insomnia, no appetite and psychogenic tremors. Today is the first day I have felt better. Tremor has ceased.

[@walls116]

I had twitching in both eyes for over a year and finally on my own started taking iron and b12 and it went away. I later found out I was anemic in both iron and b12. so just a thought.

[@annmarie2964]

It is typically a nutritional deficit

[@EngineerCorner]

Very informative, thank you very much! Keep up the great videos! Stay safe & all the best from Canada 🇨🇦

[@robertpavey4034]

Love this video. Very helpful. Thanks

[@jessicawilliams7465]

I love your videos! Your a big a inspiration for an aspiring therapist/psychologist

[@Katimorton]

Awe yay!! xoxox

[@ryanm2259]

Hi Katie! I have a question about disabilities, and more specifically how we should treat people with disabilities. Around my campus, it’s frequent to see or notice people with disabilities physical and mental. I try to smile at them and nod as I pass by (like I would with anyone else) but I get a gut feeling like I’m doing something wrong. What are appropriate ways to show people with disabilities that I acknowledge them as people (with complex thoughts, and feelings just like me)? Ps I love how positive you are! It’s really contagious 😁

[@Bootstoobig]

I am currently struggling with this disorder... I have been on disability for nearly a year now it took 3 Dr.s and 3 Neurologist and around 5-6 months to finally get diagnosed. During that time I went through many tests blood work, MRIs, EMG, and even a steroid Infusion o and a spinal tap... that one hurt. I started receiving treatment in December and noticed slight improvements in January. However, it was at this time my disability started to deny all my claims and I have been in a appealing process since... This of course added a large amount of stress and my symptoms took a dive for the worse. I was finding a new symptom about one in ever 2-3 weeks. After that event I started to have all my current tremors increase in severity and even started to have sensory issues (very small but noticeable difference in how things feel by touching with my left hand compared to my right) so I can confirm this is 100% mental and you really need to control your mood. Try and find a way to get positive and try and forget about you having the issue at all. I know it sounds easy but it is truly difficult I find myself in a position where it is impossible for me to move on until my disability mombo jumbo is taken care of (as of yesterday they extended the appeal decision date by another 21 days.) But I am happy for this video because a fear that I have had this entire time is people thinking I am faking my issue because, I can see how on paper or over the phone it can sound fake or too "convenient ."

[@Underhills]

I've been taking Xanax on and off for 23 years. Last year I started getting head and neck tremors, inner tremors, extreme muscle tension and coordination issues. The tremors are mostly intention tremors, so I'm OK walking or leaning back in a relaxed position but soon as I sit up straight the head starts to tremble and the neck tenses up big time. It's been going on for a year now. 7 months ago I quit taking Xanax with medical assistance and have been clean since, the tremors are still there and so are all the other stuff I suspect is either long term side effects and/or withdrawal symptoms: Body zaps, jumpy, throat getting narrow, gasping for air, lip tremors, heart palpitations, feeling of getting electrocuted etc.

[@pn558]

Hey youve got to taper down the dosage. But it will abate. Takes time. Afterall you used it for 23 years.

[@Underhills]

@@pn558 I've been on low dose for many years with breaks here and there. The last three years I've been able to taper off to micro levels in preparation for an exit. I've never actually taken large doses, I've been averaging on 0.2mg four times a week. Before I stopped I prepared with secondary fallback medication from my doctor, a milder benzo just in case. I have only consumed one single dose of that in a very small amount, that was back in June. The taper period has been very long, so I basically followed a controlled exit. I think I may have experienced withdrawal while consuming Xanax, it's not like withdrawal only appears after stopping. When I finally did the plunge and finally stopped the physical stuff I had been struggling with for a year increased big time. My neurologist says its psychogenic tremors. There's very little knowledge on the topic of benzo withdrawal.

[@judygravespdx]

These are all classic benzo wd symptoms. There are online groups to join for support and info

[@Underhills]

@@judygravespdx I don't know. It's been over a year since that post and I'm still suffering from all the things described there. I'm starting to think I'm chronically damaged or perhaps gained a new neurological disease. I've been to a neurologist thats's unable to connect the dots between my former Xanax consumption and my physical state. On the other side he wasn't able to see any organ damage or neurological disease as such. My problems don't seem to decline, on the contrary its' getting worse. I've been to benzo buddies and was unable to receive any explanation to my tremors and coordination issues.

[@judygravespdx]

@@Underhills go to support group Beating Benzos YOu will see that there is a group for people in protracted withdrawal and a group for those still suffering after 18 months off. You can suffer for many years before healing begins.

[@libbycatherine]

Are psychogenic non epileptic seizures the same thing? Also could you talk more about conversion disorder?

[@magz7284]

libbycatherine PNES falls under this category, yes.

[@sarahjane9354]

I suffer from really bad (although better since therapy) sickness from anxiety. As a kid I had months of hospital appointments where doctors kept testing different things, and no one could ever find anything physically/neurologically wrong that would cause nausea. I'm told this is said to be a type of somatoformic symptom/illness from anxiety.

[@catnettlefold2985]

Hi Kati! Can you please talk about DID and DDD? I feel like it’s not so relatable to the general public. I myself have DDD and have only found 1 youtuber who has it as well. When I talk about my disorder with people who don’t know what it is, their reaction is generally shocked. I feel like we need to spread the word about more unknown dissorders, just as you did with this video. ❤️ Love your channel!

[@_just_TK]

Caitlin Nettlefold what does DDD stand for? Also, check out Kati’s playlist on dissociation disorders!! kzbin.info/aero/PL_loxoCVsWqy8NqveX22SsMKlW5601YvQ

[@killertruth186]

What I had found interesting in PMD, is that there's no solid to follow. Which it is harder to diagnose and treat it.

[@chineloemeia6921]

I've been into a traumatic situation a few years ago, and now I'm getting this tics everytime I remember it or a situation where I think I embarrassed myself. My entire body contracts l, my head twitches and sometimes I unintentionally self harm (with punches or scratches). In some occasions, I even let out a word like "no", "stop", or "shut up". Can that be a PMD? I've never heard of tics being a symptom related to trauma before, and your theory of fight, flight or freeze made sense to me.

[@spielmitmir26]

Between my vertigo, foot numbness and head shaking I've been so scared I have MS or worse. But I know I have anxiety and my tremor is much closer to what you described. I am on the waitlist to see a neurologist so hopefully I will get in soon.

[@spielmitmir26]

Turns out I have MDDS a neurological disorder. I think my head bobbing is my bodies way of dealing with the motions I feel.

[@dawnroberts6688]

@@spielmitmir26 what does this mean what you have .. I had hand shakes then that stopped and next I had arm weakness it’s weird all after a bad depression and anxiety and a virus .. I see my neurologist Monday am worried like but hopefully it’s nothing to serious 😩

[@sneakysideeye]

An MDS (movement disorder specialist) would be the best neurologist to see for diagnosis and treatment vs a regular neurologist.

[@Dreamer5211]

Hi Kati , thanks for the video , I learned something new today !! I never heard of that !! Take care , I hope you and Sean have a GR8 Easter weekend , take care , Gary 

[@moehrengruen1196]

I often can’t feel my legs it’s all because of my complex trauma but still very scary

[@j.p.animates7]

I've been having these tremors or spasms for a few years now. Just assumed there was nothing to do about it. Guess I should probably ask my doctor

[@Katimorton]

Yes!! Because we can work at it and get it to go away!!! I hope you found the video helpful :) xoxo