What are the accusations against Manchester City?

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The Premier League has accused Manchester City of breaking its financial rules following a four-year investigation.
The reigning Premier League champions have been referred to an independent commission over alleged breaches of a series of financial rules between the 2009-10 and 2017-18 seasons.
Man City are accused by the Premier League of not providing accurate financial information - but what does this mean for the club, and what could the repercussions be for Pep Guardiola’s side?
JJ Bull talks to Matt Slater on the incident.
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[@speedygonzales2052]

Erling Haaland will definitely break Alex Mitrovic’s Championship Record 😂😂😂

[@gofannon1943]

NEVER! COYW! 🤍 🖤😂

[@Tasmanaut]

Haaland is already reported to be leaving

[@happyknife8785]

@@Tasmanaut Dont believe Spanish outlets who are paid by Real Madrid and Barcelona to create these stories to get players to Spain, however I do agree he will go to Real in a couple years, otherwise a clause wouldnt be in there.

[@Tasmanaut]

@@happyknife8785 the whole team is falling apart, some club will pay big money for him after city drop to the championship.

[@jamesmiller7712]

@@Tasmanaut Leeds I bet haha

[@TheFighter3110]

Imagine the prime Ole McFred team being awarded as 2021 champions, that would be amazing

[@Rassalcon]

IT WAS A GLOIOUS TEAM! WORTHY OF CHAMPIONS!

[@Fahim321]

That would be nasty.

[@browniebear]

Jose calling his 17/18 season with Utd one of his greatest accomplishments will surely age well 👀

[@ewan7283]

and that suarez rodgers liverpool team breaking the 27 year title drought

[@JamesHussain82]

Jose assist

[@kingcrf]

This seems serious, naturally to only fair solution is to punish AC Milan

[@waynedonoghue4071]

And Juventus. They're definitely up to something

[@retrocarwash]

@ArsenalDaily what did Chelsea do?

[@ItAintJohny]

@ArsenalDaily and the 8 year contracts

[@nevilleachero8054]

@@DayTroubleCOYG Chelsea gave Benfica their asking price they just amortized the fess or paid in installments.

[@OnnumMuttaiyum]

​@@DayTroubleCOYGThat's not illegal buddy... It's a tactic that backfired and later got successful. Accordingly

[@olaleyeonikuyide7541]

Thanks to both of the presenters and crew for explaining this to us

[@saqib7965]

Ik they City have being doing this for years.. The Sheikh keep flushing money as their own Sponser's.

[@rolandwoltman7835]

Barrels of oil turned to cash, used to build a team with a payroll far above *ACTUAL* revenues... *Cheaters shouldn't win.* How would we feel if Wrexham F.C. was given unfair boatloads of money and they knocked our team to relegation from the Premier League? I wouldn't care if it was done within the rules... But if they *CHEATED* I'd want them to get the *same punishment as the Rangers or Swindon Town.*

[@francisMulubwa02]

No one explains football better that Tifo IRL 💯

[@originalunoriginal4055]

Better than Darren Bent on talk sport radio

[@Mr_Blacksmith]

I searched for TIFO just for this. In TIFO I trust that this would be covered. Quality content

[@willyum3920]

agreed and covered well

[@KareemX8]

How would you know ?

[@JD83000]

But TIFO just asked the The Athletic expert to fill them in. So you mean in The Athletic you trust. (Yes I know, TIFO is under the Athletic umbrella)

[@leeriddick7]

Big thanks to Matt for this, his explanation of the charges and possible punishments is miles better than what I've seen from other outlets/websites

[@kimo3888]

Will the premier league title be stripped and given to united, Liverpool

[@1998Cebola]

When you have a real journalist instead of an algorithm or an unpaid intern doing the reporting it usually leads to higher quality

[@AnHuynh01101]

It took them 5 6 years to investigate. Another 10 year to close the case. At that time, Pep already retired. See you after 10 years. We will see how the case ends.

[@robertmclellan3658]

Citys legal team will have this corrupt nonsense thrown out AGAIN.

[@Tony.L9793]

Probably charges dropped like Mason Greenwood

[@jonathanfryer9497]

@@Tony.L9793 Lol didnt see that comparison coming but it cracked me up

[@jdodger1091]

@@robertmclellan3658 "Corrupt nonsense" only thing corrupt in this is City

[@user-sc9oy1kz8g]

@Robert Mclellan They were guilty last time and got off due to the 5 year limit. This investigation has no time restrictions, so we already know theyll get found guilty of something.

[@redheadredemption1573]

Expert: If you take nothing else away from this, just know, nothing will be resolved anytime soon. JJ: Well, we'll soon find out!

[@CamoDrako]

Who knew that a team sponsoring itself would fiddle with the finances

[@Kushtah]

Exactly 😂

[@chaardoMusic]

same with P$G

[@TunaStrata]

You can not sponsoring your own team?

[@CamoDrako]

@@TunaStrata No, because under FFP you can only spend money based on winnings and sponsors - Man City and Ethiad are owned by the Abu Dhabi royal family and have already been in court multiple times after admitting they were abusing the system to illegally inject money into the club

[@davidlean1060]

Why do I keep thinking of the scene in Fargo where Jerry is on the phone to the bank, trying to deflect their questions about his loan application, when hearing about City's financial dealings?!

[@kkfaerber]

Ya darn tootin’

[@rumourhats]

Man City should go to Midwest Federal, speak to 'ol Bill Diehl.

[@johnnymiguel167]

@@rumourhatshe’s at North Star

[@davidlean1060]

@@rumourhats...but I already bought the players, so we're all set then

[@youngthug149]

I love JJ Bull

[@MichFoodFitness]

I love him more than you!!!

[@monkeykong5313]

I really, really hope something substantial is done. As far as I can see the financial balance o European football, and English football, are beyond repair. Would love to be wrong

[@BobbySpringer1]

Be careful what you wish for. All this is is Liverpool, United and Arsenal wanting their ball back. If clubs aren't allowed to rise and fall like Chelsea, City and Newcastle compared to Blackburn, Leeds and Everton then all you end up with is is La Liga where 2 or 3 clubs dominate year in, year out.

[@vi9126]

@@BobbySpringer1 as a spaniard i absolutely agree with you. La Liga used to be better when we got both strong Barça and Madrid, Valencia, Deportivo giving a lot of trouble to those two(back then it was way harder to win la liga) and sometimes teams like Atletico, Athletic and Villarreal doing awesome seasons. Now it's just become Barça and Madrid fighting for it while Atletico keeps its 2nd or 3rd place depending on how those two do. These three can Compete in Europe for obvious reasons, but the other teams who aren't Colossus can't keep their players if they do a good season or two, just look at the majority of players who composed Barça and Madrid, they are the best players of the other teams

[@hiphopotamus69]

City’s biggest offense honestly was insulting our collective intelligence by insisting they weren’t doing this the entire time. Yes it is totally real that Man City has revenue on par with Real Madrid and there is absolutely nothing fishing going on there lol.

[@BobbySpringer1]

The TV rights for La Liga are crap compared to the Premier League. Why do you think teams like Bournemouth can compete for transfers against clubs like AC Milan - because of the financial clout of the Premier League!

[@KindredBrujah]

@@BobbySpringer1 Right, but there is still an enormous wealth disparity between the higher-earning teams in the Premier League and the lower. Man City have traditionally been on the lower-earning scale, compared to their city neighbours for example. With FFP (albeit I think the more strict rules only came into effect after City were already purchased) it is not realistic to suggest they were able to overturn that deficit so quickly without some shenanigans.

[@benyoung4305]

I remember them over spending then a member of the same royal family of sheikh mansour who owned Ethihad decided to sponsor the old city of Manchester stadium for the that exact amount. Hence, the emptihad was born. Not fishy at all...

[@indy6976]

@Ben Young let me guess its all a grand conspiracy. They will have an answer for everything. Paying 400k per week for 1 lawyer because they so innocent.

[@lowkey621]

@@benyoung4305 so your saying the owner of city used his personal leverage to negotiate an incredible deal. From a pure business sense all large corporations do this. Ofcourse it’s questionable under FFP, but if this goes all the way, how legally robust is FFP?

[@CatLikeSleep]

Phil Jones with another PL title 😆

[@kjmh90]

Nothing is gonna happen they probably gonna get fined and that's it.....

[@Infernus25]

Very likely but I am holding out hope that this time can be different

[@Account.for.Comment]

Their own lawyer said that the club could get relegated if the accusations are legit. It is over a 100 counts spanning nine years, and it is the EPL, their own people and competitors, not Uefa. Whatever the punishment, it will be nice drama. Love Seeing Chelski fail, Man Sheiki next. Maybe Chelski back to ffp again after this.

[@MichaelaBooysen-vp4zw]

it will look bad on the premier league if thats the casw

[@jhpfdijtuiweruot]

Well, it already happened to Juventus and Rangers. And the charges for City appear to be much worse than what those teams did

[@nsagoogle9581]

@@Infernus25 when Saudi Arabia can buy a club, its safe to say, justice will not be served.

[@NeonNoodleNexus]

All this rubbish about FFP in the media recently about City and Chelsea about "Fair Play" in a sporting sense, but wasn't FFP original intentions to prevent reckless spending that has landed many clubs into administration at the time? The name "Fair Play" is just a name, it doesn't even out the odds with rich clubs, in fact, the FFP rules keeps established clubs at the top because they already have high revenue, while it hampers smaller clubs from getting bigger.

[@ekzxty]

Nobody even knows what FFP is- they just waffle about big spending.

[@Josh-pj7tq]

Exactly

[@clubindigo]

I'm part of a production house that does some work for Man City and I'm literally doing a shoot with Pep tomorrow. Got a feeling he might not be in the best mood.

[@oj397]

let us know

[@dariusrana8487]

I think the team's form would be of concern to him. There is nothing he can do about the non-sporting side of the game.

[@metalswifty23]

@@dariusrana8487 Aside from the fact that he said last year that he'd leave the day after if City are ever found guilty of fiddling the books (lying to him). It's gonna play on his mind massively because he doesn't want to leave City, but he may end up having to (if he's a man of his word, though he may not even have to decide).

[@clubindigo]

@@oj397 Well he was two hours late hahahaha, but was in a lovely mood, very cheerful fella!

[@damianofebbrarino7159]

6:36 Matt Slater: "Look, anything's possible, nothing is going to happen any time soon, so let's all calm down..." 7:24 JJ: "Well... we'll soon find out... thanks Matt" 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆 Never change JJ 😂

[@robovac3557]

This is outrageous. Man City are clearly innocent. On an unrelated note, my nose mysteriously grew a foot longer just now.

[@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986]

Did your wallet get bigger as well by any chance?

[@robovac3557]

@@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986 Another annoying username that's so long you can't see it all.

[@chesscomsupport8689]

@@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986 Of course not... I would never take bribes from anyone! On an unrelated note, I now feel Arab, Qatari and gay.

[@waynedonoghue4071]

@@chesscomsupport8689 Still can't believe he told the world he feels gay 😂😂

[@rolandwoltman7835]

@@waynedonoghue4071 Chesscom... What we need to know is, with which hand though?

[@R0BSTAA]

As a city fan, I appreciate the unbias breakdown of it all

[@AlienOmertaTV]

We are innocent my brother CTID

[@grrhmaadulyaa7857]

@@AlienOmertaTV ooookkkkaaayyyyyy

[@TheMrFishnDucks]

This is very serious. Looking forward to how this will turn out. Nice video. Keep up the good work.

[@Wladislav]

I just want to see the full ManC squad, unchanged, play a season in the Championship.

[@richarddavies5674]

National league would be more funny. City vs Oldham in a mid-season clash

[@gitgud1555]

The betting odds would be ridiculous

[@hanif-pl5hd]

juve was stripped of their title, imagine city getting 6 of their titles revoked, that would be shocking, feel bad for the players though

[@davids3539]

The players went there for the money, they're fine.

[@hanif-pl5hd]

@@davids3539 agreed, but i think epl should punish the club more so than the players, relegate them, transfer ban, reduce wage limits, basically make them weak for 3-4 years like rangers

[@stariqa2]

This investigation is for 2009-2018. City won 3 EPL during this period.

[@matthewbuckley3003]

@@stariqa2 that screenshot was only part of it, they're investigating every year after 2018 as well

[@nonnayoubuzinnes1669]

Bit not Bernardo Silva who is a ******

[@StimulatingMC]

I know this has to say alleged or that they are accusations for legal reasons, but everybody has known for at least a decade City have been cooking the books and attaining fraudulent sponsors. It seems really farcical that we even have to say allegedly at this point.

[@_leivo]

if you had proof why didn't you present it before??

[@alexbrunton2137]

@@_leivo Don't think he works for the EPL mate

[@ayylmao2569]

@@_leivo don't think he has any proof either mate

[@JamesHussain82]

@@alexbrunton2137 oh so if I have evidence of a crime I need to get a job at West Yorkshire police to present it? Cool.

[@alexbrunton2137]

@@JamesHussain82 don’t be dense. Expect nothing less from a Chelsea fan though 😭

[@zxcxzxc]

Well articulated!

[@nickchivers9029]

Looking forward to seeing how Graeme Souness blames this on Paul Pogba.

[@Chris15Hubbard]

Damn, now I've gotten my hopes up that there might actually be some justice in this world.....

[@Taharqo.saved.the.Hebrew]

🤣🤣🤣Man city will get fined and a stiff telling off by the FA that's it

[@shahzadirani]

Not to forget Pep’s Barcelona were fined by UEFA for breaching the same kind of anti-doping regulations of which his Man City team have been accused. Also, Pep and his doctor were involved in a doping scandal when Pep was a player in Italy in 2001. Pep then hired that same doctor when Pep was made manager of Barcelona in 2009. They were fined for doping charges in 2010 (note - Pep insisted his players take these things made by the doctor). Pep and all the clubs he’s managed at being involved in scandalous things = a better love story than Twilight.

[@ramoncf7]

Mourinho?

[@aslannouveau]

The #1 best selling sportsbook in Germany was the former Bayern Dr, essentially calling Pep a drug cheat.

[@MrAdrien1999]

Wait what? I didnt know that. Kinda tainted my vision of Pep…

[@redtpc8194]

@@seanjamesmacleod241 afaik Messi was on growth hormones for years even as a teen in Argentina

[@waynedonoghue4071]

@@seanjamesmacleod241 Messi's growth hormones were perfectly legal for a few reasons. 1: It was to deal with a medical condition. 2: They were legally prescribed 3: They provided him with no advantage over his competitors. Messi taking those drugs did not bring any disadvantage to other footballers. And drug taking only becomes illegal when they are deemed to offer a competitive advantage.

[@JoeyKneecap]

I wonder if someone will try and affect the three panelists...

[@jumhed994]

Mancini was paid more money for 4 days work for the owners in their home country than a whole season for City.

[@brucetillerson3329]

Why are you surprised by this. Its quite common practice for high level staff in international companies. They use Hong Kong for this.

[@Tensaroxx]

Was waiting for your Video before coming to any conclusion on the uproar regarding this on social media

[@barnaclefelching4079]

I've heard they're going to have to move back to Maine Road, re-employ Mark Hughes and thank him for it, they're also looking at expanding their operation into sign-writing, just in case

[@maartenverstraelen218]

In belgian law there is something called the 'legalityprinciple'. Everything in law must be writen down, even the punishments provided when their are breashes of the law. Interesting when you apply this to the case. You could argue: 'How is it fair that Man City could get punished when the punishments are decided on the spot by some people.'

[@epicmarschmallow5049]

I don't know if you realise this but Manchester isn't in Belgium, so Belgian law doesn't apply. So you could argue that, but you'd be wrong and kinda silly

[@felix-bk7ne]

@@epicmarschmallow5049 I think his point is fair. He's clearly inferring that a similar principle should be in place in the UK.

[@PeyoteCoyote97]

@@felix-bk7nethat’s not how England works. The common law is interpreted and developed by judges based on the precedent of past cases

[@smanslam1]

Will this mean Mourinho and Ole won league titles with ManU?! 😅

[@Kushtah]

Imagine 😂

[@OnnumMuttaiyum]

That is if they're really really cheated all the way up. I feel City haven't attacked literally that way. They'll get fined and found of exploitation but its not that far of stripping titles cause it's happened in the recent decade and it's just too much "clickbaity" to believe that claim.

[@alvarc3675]

@@OnnumMuttaiyum it is fair and I tell you why: they use dirty money to get contracts for players that in no other circumstances would have agreed to join a club with no history like man city. The amount of top quality players that man city could have bought with legit money would have been close to none.

[@metalswifty23]

No, because that's not how it works. City could get stripped of titles, but no one will be retroactively awarded them. The only top league instance of a team being retroactively awarded a title after the winners were stripped of it was Inter Milan in 05/06, but that was only possible because the season had just finished 2 months earlier, and they hadn't even started the next season. There's no precedent for teams to be awarded a title years later, or even halfway through the next season, otherwise Inter would have also been awarded the 04/05 title as well (which was left vacant).

[@richarddavies5674]

@metalswifty23 what about the teams that placed a spot lower than they would have done if City hadn't cheated? Teams missed out on ucl,eul, FA, league Cup positions etc which all carry financial bonuses. The other teams in the Prem should be getting reimbursement for lost revenue in them years. Liverpool could have been championed multiple times during their drought as City cheated. So many repercussions to the damaged City have caused. Everything should be factored in

[@jinxedchef]

"I'm shocked, shocked, to find that financial trickery is going on in here."

[@lfcx5161]

Like hearing politicians are corrupt

[@lukemiller_6]

Matt explains this so clearly! Brilliant video!

[@karnpandharipande]

lol the Haaland camp knew that Man City wasn't the final destination, incoming transfer to RM 🤔

[@BigPurp9]

The funny thing with Pep is stuff like this is why no one respects his achievements at City. Klopp gets more praise and adulation for 1 league title and CL at Liverpool because we know it’s not ill gotten gains.

[@jamesbaurus5928]

​@140glasgow well, they would have been able to "afford it", but completely illegitimately.

[@t4404]

they've spent similarly to most other top 6 over the same timeframe. its not any discredit to pep or the team at all, the issue is about spending relative to income. pep could have done the same thing with the same players at any other *legit* big club

[@BigPurp9]

@@t4404 except other big clubs can’t just create random sponsors to inflate their revenue figures?? There’s no way anyone can say with a straight face that City generate more money than Real and Barca or even United and Liverpool

[@lukexrr]

The period being charged is 2009-2017.. Pep was there for one season. What’s your argument?

[@mrsswindon]

@@t4404 you're talking as if Man city was a top 6 club before. Every other top club like Liverpool, Arsenal and Man United have are huge clubs with massive history. Man City had a smaller base of supporters than even some league 2 teams lol. City came along and bought their way to being a top 6 club.

[@brandonnzimande6381]

Been waiting for this one

[@B1G_Dave]

"Well we'll soon find out" City's lawyers: Er no.

[@slappeslang890]

They cant fight these charges apparently is the case

[@robertmclellan3658]

@@slappeslang890 Dont be silly

[@slappeslang890]

@@robertmclellan3658 ?

[@waynedonoghue4071]

@@slappeslang890 This is not a legal issue. City are not in trouble with the justice system of the UK. People need to learn the different between a law and a rule 😂

[@slappeslang890]

@@waynedonoghue4071 where did i say that

[@naveeth8867]

Hmm lots of power given to a panel with ambiguous parameters for punishing guilty parties. Can't see any way one of the richest countries in the world could manipulate that process... I wonder how long it'll take for the Premier League to just go full Fifa. Are we already there? On a more positive note, great work from the Tifo team today. Got this and the Leeds/Marsch video out v quickly

[@gazza8524]

This is my thoughts in a way. There's a reason why rulebooks should not be vague and grey and uncertain. While not the same sport look at Formula One, rules applied so unevenly depending on in-sport political repercussions, imagine this but there's actually real political repercussions. What's to say the panel won't go "Well City are huge, lets make an example and be overly harsh" or "City are huge, hold a lot of sway in this country for promoting football, we cant be too hard on them.." its such a grey, murky, unclear water that should (in my opinion) be cleared up. Imagine if a player slides in from behind, clatters the legs out of a defender without the ball and the ref goes "Welllllll... Since he's not involved in actual play... He's totally in his rights to clatter that fridge out of the way."

[@Pattonator14]

There is a big difference though in that the prem is self governing

[@oldskoolmusicnostalgia]

@@Pattonator14 I see what you mean, however with increased foreign ownership of PL clubs the likelihood of those rich foreign owners to punish one of their own becomes lower every time.

[@Bronzehans]

Cheating is cheating. No fine will make them change or cause them to grow a conscience overnight. There is a precedent in sport, there needs to be consequences. Revoke the titles.

[@danielkarlsen2545]

For a second I thought it was Gus Poyet in the thumbnail 😂

[@grimreaper-qh2zn]

Why does he say "This is cheating" did he mean alleged? Typical. It is obvious that the main influential representatives on the PL board are puppets of a certain team that plays in Red who believe they have a define right. Just as the "old" guard in UEFA tried it on because they only wanted the "Historic" teams to be a success. I applauded Leicester when they won the PL against the odds. I would like to see more teams have the opportunity to be successful and not held back by one or two teams with influence. You can run your team successfully have the largest turnover etc and by hauled under the coals. Yet have a debt of hundreds of millions of pounds and that to be ok. Wasn't FFP brought in to stop owners putting large debts on Clubs (a la Portsmouth). What will happen to Chelsea, Newcastle etc when their spending is next scrutinised. Why not just have a PL with two or three teams in it?

[@Josh-pj7tq]

There will be a independant panel who will do an independent investigation on this. Guess who chooses who goes on the panel?

[@grimreaper-qh2zn]

@@Josh-pj7tq Exactly. How can it be independent when the PL have chosen it. Lets all shout "Witch Hunt" together. I hope the Sheikh destroys them, keeps them tied up for years and costs them millions in legal fees.

[@davemboe1213]

@@Josh-pj7tq guess which club the leader of the panel supports 😹😹

[@mymemories925]

@@Josh-pj7tq wenger will assure severe punishment for city

[@barrypegg3070]

If found guilty simply exclude them from Premier League for a number of years. Say exclude them for 5-years and they would only be allowed back in if they win promotion after that period has ended and their account for period they were out of EPL have been fully audited. Can't see retrospective punishment because were do you stop. Do you award league titles, what about FA cups and League cup. Also, what about teams finishing 5th that might have got into Champions League and so were denied the money that come from that competition.

[@LordWay]

I had only heard about the mancini thing I didn't know it was allegedly as serious as this is which is almost the entire ownership

[@mangoesboy]

That's why traditional super clubs like Madrid, Barca, Juve etc wants super league. EPL is basically a super league, where financial doping is legally allowed through various legal loopholes. Recent eg. What Chelsea has done. Wenger in 2010s has said that the loopholes will make the FFP toothless. Strip the titles of City, and relegate them. It should be an examplary punishment so that clubs do not commit financial doping again.

[@ekzxty]

Ironic you mention Juventus when they’re one of the most scandalous clubs in history- dating back pre-2009 when Manchester City was even founded!

[@mangoesboy]

@@ekzxty Why an irony? I didn't say one is better than the other. Their interests may bebin conflict but it doesn't mean that both are fine. It's an observation.

[@ekzxty]

@@mangoesboy it’s ironic because you used Manchester City’s alleged rule breaking as justification for Juventus, Real Madrid and Barcelona (and the rest) wanting a super league- even though Juventus (even Barcelona and Madrid too) are one of the most scandalous teams in history.

[@mangoesboy]

@@ekzxty Good to know your interpretation.

[@MrEmma32]

Here after 4 months and i can confidently say the PL is waffling . They made it 115 charges because they have nothing. They're just hoping something sticks , it wont.

[@Midkemma]

So... If titles are swapped around, I assume the prize money would also... Well... Do they get their name on a trophy and that's it? What happens about teams that missed euro comps and financial suffering from missed revenue? It kinda feels strange.

[@huckelberry201]

I wonder if this is why city have been selling in recent times…

[@benscriv6600]

Citys title challenge vs Norwich, West Brom ans Sunderland will be a great watch

[@RobCrawfordIntrepidproduction]

I need a story about Aberdeen to put this into terms I understand

[@Shane39]

Any scandal surfaces and Milan are struggling.

[@ekzxty]

😂😂😂

[@Sizdothyx]

It's not so much that they spent so much money at this point. It's the backroom deals that they DIDN'T reveal when they went about their business. It's horrible.

[@TK_Brainslug]

Is there a rule how much money a sponsor or the owner can put in a club? if not the Abu Dhabi United Group could put so much money in to even to books?! It sounds more as if kindergarten kids are in charge of the financials

[@marknewbold2583]

The sponsorship was falsely reported

[@Josh-pj7tq]

Ffp was brought in to prevent midtable teams from competing with already established teams already making massive revenues, who can spend as much as they like.

[@rwalker0130]

I'm super disappointed in Pep for going ALL IN on this instead of just saying "not me, I'm just the manager" and leaving it alone. WE ALL KNOW THEY DID IT.

[@jackbilo2819]

Does this mean Jose mourinhos manu team become champions?

[@otto_jk]

Or even more hilariously Ole's

[@metalswifty23]

Generally not how it works. Teams don't get retroactively awarded league titles years after the event (or even halfway into next season).

[@DavoPJR]

“Well we’ll soon find out”.."….hmmmm, don’t think so!

[@juz882010]

if a sponsor pays more than competitor how is that illegal? are sponsors not allowed to help bring players in?

[@colouredIncognito]

'accusation' Half of their sponsors are not even on the internet....

[@MattayManiac]

Something tells me we might not soon find out

[@jeffdbaker71]

The Prem tends to protect its top 6 clubs. These teams are the top money makers so there is incentive to give preferential treatment to them. Do you think there will be any hint of this when it comes to rulings against City?

[@mimikolomamu]

Do you know Newcastle "just" changed ownership?

[@kevinlocke6120]

I don't think so as it's the Premier league that is accusing City.

[@paulgeczi2276]

Not to protect the top 6 but this is aimed at Man Utd and Liverpool who want it going back how it used to be . Anyone with new money will not be allowed to get a seat at the big table

[@BobbySpringer1]

@@paulgeczi2276 Amen! This is just old-fashioned croynism

[@mymemories925]

Well in the last 30 years City were not considered a top 6 club? Aston villa, Leeds was one of them

[@jacemid67]

105 charges is crazy

[@shawngillogly6873]

I suspect we won't find out *too* soon.

[@marineboy1964]

Man city have just donated £100 million to the premier league , so nothing to see here

[@ekzxty]

How charitable 😂😂😂

[@aaaaab5909]

Such lazy journalism to compare the Juve calciopoli scandal, olymypic medals, Lance armstrong etc where the on field sporting fairness was directly compromised through the influencing of referees or performance enhancing drugs. A better comparison is the current Juve situation where they have only been punished with a points deduction and not stripped of titles retrospectively, that would open a can of worms over prize money and results.

[@Josh-pj7tq]

Comparing match fixing and drug use to city breaking a finincial rule thats only existed for 10 years

[@leviathon18]

They will not strip them of their titles, it will end up they will get charged on 1 or 2 counts and get a slap on the wrist. All the other prem clubs been probably internally complaining for years on this knowing full well what they have been doing, the premier league can clean their hands of it now they have done their part .

[@ILikedGooglePlus]

So Gerrard /could/ win the Premier League!?!?

[@TheDeadlyTikka]

It's crazy it took so long. Everyone knew that the sponsorships where just a way to pump ubsurd amounts of money into the club and skirt around the rules. Newcastle fans better watch out as they have already started the process of copying them

[@ajm7244]

In 2022, Chelsea, Man U, West Ham AND Forest all spent more than Newcastle. c'mon bro

[@TheDeadlyTikka]

@@carlr4742 That wasn't the point. They are basically sponsering themselves by using their other companies to pump extra cash into the club and skirt around FFP

[@TheDeadlyTikka]

@@carlr4742 For example, it is looking like Newcastle will be sponsered by Saudi Airlines next year. A company owned by the same people who have a majority ownership of the club.

[@AkashChauhan-fl5ou]

It's nothing they will pay insanely and come out clean Just like the time where they won't be able to play uefa upcoming year

[@Raazaaaaa]

Could someone with more knowledge please explain if/why we expect the outcome to be any different to the UEFA investigation please?

[@davemboe1213]

Not a single person.... funny enough

[@sparshkhurana5390]

Cause this time there is no time frame for the investigation and City cannot appeal to CAS. They get tried under UK law.

[@notaldonsmith1984]

The reallocation of titles is pointless. They do it here in the US. Am I supposed to act like I didn’t see Reggie Bush win the Heisman, or Louisville win the 2013 National Championship. Man City fans has their parade and players got their medals, taking it away now does nothing.

[@MaximusOwen1]

They should never have been allowed to obstruct the PL’s investigations in the way they have over the years. If the PL want your documentation it should be either hand it over or see you in the Championship.

[@ally_crawford]

FFP just seems like a way of keeping the establishment at the top. If city owners are happy to be underwriting these losses with 0 burden on the club why shouldn't they?

[@davieskamanda6622]

Because it's unfair for other teams that don't have the same kind of financial muscle.

[@ally_crawford]

@@davieskamanda6622 it's already unfair. How is a team with a smaller fan base/stadium supposed to get bigger and compete if they're unable to spend the money required?

[@davieskamanda6622]

You don't get bigger by cheating. Build from the bottom

[@leewalsh4008]

@@davieskamanda6622 I love how you haven't given him a proper answer haha

[@mymemories925]

Well City have a substantially smaller British fanbase then spurs which puts in to perspective City, s lack of participation in the premier league for. Many years!

[@alexanderkenway]

This won't be settled any time soon

[@divinest]

FFP is made it make to Top Clubs who's already spent money in the past to win to keep staying at the top

[@Hyde_Hill]

Queue the order of some fighter jets from British manufacturers and then the government stepping in to clear them of all charges (totally unrelated of course ;) ). EG the Qatar model.

[@bradnotbread]

Nothing will ultimately come of it.

[@JokiW]

I think Matt was pretty clear with that we will most certainly not "soon find out" 😄

[@anthonyjudeaggabao2302]

It would be a big positive on the league’s reputation if they enforce harsh punishments on City. It immediately silences the critics that have been saying how lenient the league has been to state owned clubs and there’ll now be a feeling that the other teams are gonna straighten up their books cause the league is taking this serious.

[@StoutProper]

Chelsea spending 700m in 2 transfer windows Asha facing abromivich for 20 years is ok then

[@shardulmandloi]

@@StoutProper They can spend a billion as long as they're under compliance with the rules you knobhead

[@krish4246]

@@StoutProperthey are paying those in instalments City blatantly say they had more revenue than Madrid , united etc which is impossible

[@memphisdaniels3218]

@@StoutProper Chelsea will be in same position if they miss out on CL for a couple of seasons and they won't be in it next season unless they win it this year

[@StoutProper]

@@krish4246 paying 600m in instalments, that’s ok then 😂

[@Hogan213]

Best explanation of I’ve heard

[@asutherland7123]

Hardly shocking. About time

[@Avalon_1991]

Looking forward to the opposition fan chants

[@rodlawson160]

Will be interested to see if the English footballing authorities apply the rules in the same firm way that the Scottish authorities did when Glasgow Rangers were found to be guilty of financially cheating and made to start again in the lowest league in Scotland and only narrowly escaped being thrown out of football completely. The Scottish situation was arguably very unfair to the fans of the Glasgow club but rules are rules.

[@PeyoteCoyote97]

I think it is better to be overly strict and punishing than to allow for blatant cheating to erode the entire integrity of the sport

[@mfundonkosi6927]

When they investigating Chelsea?

[@epicmarschmallow5049]

When there's evidence of financial foul play

[@Leveleup543]

Would be a pity if owners were forced to sell the team

[@kabzakathunder3323]

This hurt so much as a city fan 😪🥺😫

[@harukrentz435]

meh youll be supporting another plastic club in no time...

[@MylesB93-]

Should be fun seeing City in the championship

[@ekzxty]

Should be the bottom of the English footballing pyramid- not the championship.

[@tonythebomb4147]

Simple 101 breaches of rules in 9 year's. Fiddling the books.

[@The_AOP]

As a Man Utd fan the week just can’t get any better. “Oh what a night! early February 2023…”

[@KellysHeroes777]

Very few people will understand this comment but I do.

[@CatharticSense]

Lets monitor if any of the three ruling people get new cars or mansions soon...

[@rafikz77]

Fire sale?

[@malualjmmtcustoms6361]

60 point deduction and transfer ban for season,

[@duyanhng8430]

105 different charge, like damn

[@juancarlosalonso5664]

Let’s be honest here, most teams in the epl don’t follow the same financial rules as teams in mainland Europe anyway, which is why english fans were the ones the most against the super league, they’re afraid to play under the same circumstances and financial restrictions as other teams in Europe and want things to stay as they are, where a team like Chelsea is allowed to spend more in a transfer window than most of the main leagues in Europe combined.

[@MelonGearSolid]

Tifo: What are the allegations against Manchester City? Me: Beautiful

[@robertmclellan3658]

Just concentrate on looking after your goats.

[@isaachewitt-richards2714]

Points deduction and transfer ban

[@stefan5730]

Say what you want but with strict FFP rules the prem would be just like the bundesliga with United being the english Bayern.

[@harukrentz435]

the fvck are you babbling about? did you not see pl club who finished 18th last season gained more money than the club who finished 4th in la liga lasf season? also arsenal, liverpool can make big money signings without oil money