What Are the Van Allen Belts? And How Can We Get Past Them?

The Van Allen Belts surround the Earth with deadly radiation. What can we do to get past them and escape into deep space?
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Good news everyone, there’s a magnetic force field surrounding the Earth and protecting it from harmful radiation from space. Deadly solar radiation streaming from the Sun and cosmic rays coming from other stars are stopped dead in their tracks by this protective magnetosphere.
But also bad news, this force field is a swirling donut-shaped field of deadly deadly radiation. Any astronauts wanting to go to deep space will need to pass through this region, and take an increased dose of radiation.
I’m talking, of course, about the Earth’s Van Allen Belts.
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[@TheresaBuccola]

Luck? 6 flawless missions to the moon, no casualties, no cancer, no technical difficulties. And yet, we can't duplicate it today. Yeah. Sure.

[@pspicer777]

Theresa Buccola TB, they were affected. Multiple cancers and two related deaths for sure. Brave men all.

[@emperortgp2424]

No one said lunar missions are impossible to duplicate today. Fact of the matter is the Apollo missions were part of the space race and mostly a publicity stunt. It's expensive and inefficient to send man on missions that can be accomplished by space probes. Plain and simple.

[@pspicer777]

@@emperortgp2424 ETGP, in the main I see your point. I was there - believe me, it was more than just a publicity stunt. Those days were the foundation of modern US supremacy - the "war" was ideological and had a weight not appreciated in modern times. It is easy but limiting, to look at that effort as anything than what it was. You are correct about the overall scientific value etc. It is unfortunate that the US also was focused on just the immediate geopolitical issues. Had the technology continued to be developed, we would be far in advance of where we are today.

[@Agarwaen]

Ye.. it's easy to call something flawless if you entirely ignore every issue and failure...

[@pspicer777]

@Sandra McShane SM, not really too surprising I guess. You have to have been a certain age and living either in Europe or in the US. These were the "cold war" years, in Europe, the mutual defense pact called for placement of Pershing missiles to blunt any attack by Russia. Living in London at the time there was tension between those who wanted defense and the anti-war establishment, something common throughout Europe. The "space race" was a war by proxy. To my earlier comment, to those living through those years, there was a real fear of a hot war. From the perspective of now, these events, not remembered, are too often distilled to "going to the moon was a stunt" of some type. Not so at all.

[@Mo-dd7uu]

8:10 "the mission depended on luck" I'm done 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@240pixel]

Yes they did. Because we still cannot predict how intensive the radiation in the belt gonna be on the given time. Its like taking small plane over the ocean without knowing the weather forecast. If you get lucky you live. If not you get into storm then crash and die

[@tamarab6259]

@@basedbear1605 Whatever you say, you're right, I'm wrong! The government never uses cheaper parts on anything! Also, I'm not saying they used the absolute cheapest parts on everything, but when building something that will be going into space, you would think the people building it, would use the best or close to it, for everything, not what's more affordable, and passes their quality/safety test? So, did you bid on parts for NASA too? I'm going by what I heard, during interviews on TV, and articles I read, shortly after the crash, where some of the people stated they used cheaper parts instead of the more expensive ones! Didn't know I had to keep on researching it years later?(I'm sure a lot of that material is gone now, it's been so long) This was during the time, when everyone was trying to understand what went wrong with the space shuttle, and caused the crash!

[@tamarab6259]

@@basedbear1605 🖕 How's that for childish! Lol I guess the astronaut who joked about it, was full of it too? If I were you, I wouldn't be telling everyone, you possibly had something to do with those $30,000 hammers! 😲

[@tamarab6259]

Annndd, Based Bear is outta here! 🏃‍♂️🙌..👋 It's like my Dad used to say, that's what happens, when you let your elephant mouth, overload your hummingbird ass! Talkin' abt $30,000 hammers, that our Gov't purchased & apparently, you knew all about it?! Perhaps you may of had something to do with it? It sounds like you knew exactly what our Gov't had been up to & did nothing about it, "Mr. I Do The Bidding Man"! 🤐 Yeah, I'd be embarrassed too, if I had been involved in any way 😶 then get on YT & brag abt how you knew all abt it, while working for the Gov't, doing their bidding. Yes, I knew abt the $30,000 hammer fiasco too, like most of America, only after the reports came out & it was too late to do anything abt it! Those hammers weren't the only over priced items bought, I remember they also bought $10 pens, staplers which had to have a touch of gold on em at that price, etc., but that's a whole different ball game we're talking about here. In this particular project, weren't they trying to buy parts, at the lowest price, as long as they passed certain safety regulations, not, lets see who can spend the most money, per part! If I were a Gov't employee at that time, whose job was bidding on parts(like you said you did) & such, for offices, repairs, etc., I def. would've deleted those comments ASAP, too! That's just added proof, you're either an idiot, who wouldn't have noticed a $100,000 office chair on that sheet, or a complete tool, who just didn't care what was being spent! 🤣🤣🤣 Later.. & No hard feelings! ✌🤗 The finger above, was just for sh*ts & giggles! 😁

[@lugeij370]

"And finally, the missions depended on luck!" Lmfao

[@frasercain]

Luck that there wasn't a killer solar storm at the time. When you go camping you're taking a chance of having bad weather. But you still go.

[@lugeij370]

@@frasercain with that logic you also take a chance you car dosent blow up on the way to the campsite. We check the weather and dont go if the forecast calls for shitty weather. Goig camping and attempting to luck out on avoiding rain or cold weather is one thing. A crew full of rocket scientists and billions of dollars and man hours on the line is another. Did they try their luck to bear out the Russians? (I feel like an idiot even writing this shit made up shit?) My point is it seems odd for NASA or people describing NASA projects to use the words "depended on luck" in a sentence especially when that's what at stake.

[@minir.3182]

@@frasercain You're comparing a trip to the moon, to a trip to the camp site? How...what?

[@frasercain]

Yes, I'm providing an analogy, since both deal with a kind of weather. In one case, it's Earth weather, in another case, it's space weather.

[@PalmdalesAdonis]

They went to the moon more than once right. They're so lucky the space weather wasn't bad

[@Sertao2013]

3 belts not 2. Proving no man has ever past through the belts to get to the moon .

[@Sertao2013]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJvXaHumeJuqadE

[@naliat8860]

you didn't actually watch the video did you?

[@hunnedproofproductions5529]

The moment you realize the “Van Allen Belts” are the firmament...............

[@Stubrit]

Which we won't. Because they are not.

[@theonewiththeeyeoftruth884]

@@basedbear1605 What's the "Truth"? A bunch of poorly-conceived hoax evidence points mean there really was a hoax?

[@theonewiththeeyeoftruth884]

@@basedbear1605 Your "Truth" of poorly-conceived hoax evidence points would be acceptable to no one.

[@GTNover]

The Bible says the firmament is outside the earth's atmosphere. The van allen belts are inside the earth's atmosphere.

[@unvergebeneid]

"protective magnetic force field" "unpredictable" "poorly understood" -> let's shoot radio waves into them and see what happens.

[@frasercain]

What's the worst that could happen?

[@unvergebeneid]

I know, right? I mean, who knows, after we've collapsed the van Allen belts, we might even use hard radiation from space as a renewable energy source!

[@Cythil]

For Science!

[@DamianReloaded]

I don't think they did it on purpose. They did shoot nuclear weapons into it on purpose tho... The good thing is that maybe, some day, we will be able to produce enough power to puncture the belt as we pass through it and maybe use it also to protect astronauts from solar storms on their way to Mars/Moon.

[@unvergebeneid]

They are planning to do it on purpose and also, I was joking :)

[@antlife1930]

If you can't go past that that means they never went to the moon

[@frasercain]

But you can go past it since they went to the Moon and only got 1/100th the radiation load NASA was anticipating.

[@antlife1930]

Fraser Cain you learn something new everyday

[@sergior8667]

Ant life yup

[@debonairjoyner5095]

It doesn't add up

[@michaelp9413]

@@riyuofenkelrin9530 was agreeing with u until u said the earth was flat

[@unvergebeneid]

1:48 You know the radiation is particularly nasty outside when your spaceship parts start arcing through the vacuum of space.

[@frasercain]

Yup, that's a problem.

[@truckcaptainstumpy1978]

Penny Lane - hang a disco ball tell the passengers it's a club?

[@billcurrie4896]

Rocket engines cant ignite fuel in a vacuum so how the hell can you get anywhere no combustion without oxygen scientific fact .

[@KimJakab]

Fraser Cain: Thanks for a good and very educational video! Just one thing I have to oppose, which leads to one of my questions below. After that I have just 2 questions more, which are highly related to this video. It's ok if you can't/won't answer them, but would be grateful if you maybe have any opinion or any small information about the 2 for me mysterious questions. (!!Notice anyone who reads this is welcome to answer these 3 questions too!!.) You say they had luck when passing through the van Allen belts with Apollo 11. In science at this level there isn't any luck (in football you can have luck), but ok let's accept that Apollo 11 had luck back and forth. That's luck twice. According to me totally irresponsible of NASA playing with other peoples lives, but of course by any means necessary to beat the Russians. Then imagine the 5 following trips until 1972, that means luck 10 times more. In total they were lucky 12 times and exactly every time under these out of earth complex and hard conditions. Sorry, but as an engineer I can't just absorb and process this. During more than 3000 years we have had many scientists achieving for them those days magnificent results and discoveries. They maybe were lucky in the way that they found coincidences and could repeat their experiments or whatever they wanted to measure. Thanks to the repeatable process they could pass over this to the next generation and so on. If this procedure got accepted by the rest of the educated (sometimes very difficult as we know due to the church and religion, root to all evil :)) and could "standardize" the method, then applications of this were usually developed quickly until the application was pushed to it's limit. Take in modern time for example the combustion engine and remember all improvements and all of it's applications. The development/improvement work was a constant ongoing process. More power, more efficiently, less noisy and the manufacturing methods much more cost effective etc. 1. Do you agree with what I mention above and that this kind of thinking is a "natural law" among scientists/engineers? Let's go over to rocket engines and try to remember the time frame from the beginning and for what purposes and what applications rocket engines were developed. The history tells us the initial applications were for war and later for space applications. Now we put these successful Apollo rockets in the picture combined with the 12 times of "out of earth" luck from 1969 to 1972. During these 3 years with old technology NASA achieved to do moon landings look easier than walking a dog in the morning fighting various distractions such as cats, screaming children, cars etc. 2. If the Apollo program was this incredibly successful why can't we just rebuild Apollo 11 or at least rebuild the F-1 engines and combine them into a new Saturn V? Today we have year 2018, almost 50 years (f-word half a century) later and we can NOT lift our asses higher than 340-400 km from earth due to van Allen belts, which the NASA astronauts crossed like knife in butter during hot summer day 1969 to 1972. Mankind has known magnetic fields since year 1000 BC. Electromagnetic fields has been known since year 1600 more or less. Besides Russia, USA and European joint ventures we have now also China, Japan and India as competitors plus several private companies with separate space programs. All this with NASA, 100% successful moon landing 1969 and some kind of hush hush, feeling that there is something hidden combined with numerous important telemetry data and unique technologies are lost/destroyed/forgotten don't make any sense. 3. This you have to agree is totally against all evolutionary rules, against all learning process rules, against all rules of all known sciences and last, but not least against all engineering rules. Do you have any idea of what factors actually stopped us 50 years ago which led to for the first time in history that we went backwards in the scientific evolution? Thanks and regards, Kim

[@-TheOracle-]

We went to the moon with 50's and 60's technology. Giggles just a little and goes back to coloring between the lines.

[@PedroDuarteFonseca]

Touché!

[@alekstirnaman2750]

This is my question too. Didn't they say it's a recent discover? And they didn't even know the shape of the Van Allen belt till 2012

[@PhilosopherNewport]

"You say they had luck when passing through the van Allen belts with Apollo 11. In science at this level there isn't any luck.... In total they were lucky 12 times and exactly every time " Excellent point. They sent dogs & monkeys to space before they sent men, and that's without going through the Belt; any honest scientist would have insisted on sending dogs or monkeys to the moon first -- and then bring them back alive -- before sending men. It's just...scientific! Step by step by step. Why would you utilize caution just to buzz around in low-earth orbit but not utilize caution sending a man through 30,000 miles of a radiation belt and then landing him on a moon that is 250 degrees Fahrenheit in the light and unprotected by any belt or atmosphere and so receives the FULL unfiltered blast of the sun's radiation? But before even that, there should have been experiments with sending biological creatures (plants/animals/insects), in a craft meant to carry men, into the center of the Belt, and bringing them back. There's an old science show from 1959 where a scientist says a spacecraft would need SIX INCHES OF LEAD to protect biological creatures from the harmful effects of the Belt. Wouldn't 6 inches of lead make the craft insanely HEAVY? Without any filtering belts or atmospheres, biological creatures would end up looking as dry and barren as the moon -- absolutely baked inside & out. How much lead would an astronaut suit have to contain in order to protect the man from the FULL brunt of the sun's unfiltered radiation? And in 1969, did they have the technology to make adequate air-conditioning units for spacesuits so the men could withstand the 250 degree heat?

[@logic_a8232]

Nothing but lies...

[@retoblubber]

1:40 note > m = milli; M = mega. Also the symbol for volt is V

[@frasercain]

Yeah, it should have been MeV.

[@motomotozaki8412]

After all that, WHY! , didn't one the Apollo 11 astronauts not know anything about the VAN ALLEN BELTS, when questioned about going through them,, Absolutely Not" !!!

[@ChuckBeefOG]

Because it was filmed in a Nevada warehouse to fool the Russians and the American people. JFK started a 300M per year tax levy on giving the people a false hope. If they just increased taxes the people would revolt, if you trick them to believe it is for something magical not only will they pay, they will cheer it on. Income tax was only supposed to be for the war effort in WW2, look where we are at now.

[@motomotozaki8412]

@Blob B you are a real peice of work, how thoughtful of you,"WOW, you solved the mystery , fuckin Einstein.....

[@motomotozaki8412]

@Blob B why would Russia have to tell you about the hoax, when one of the so called greatest heroes of all time , just sat there and said he didn't know what he would encounter on the way to the moon, he had no idea, you are sound asleep??????

[@bluefairyuk]

Blob B The Russians were importing all their grains from the USA... My question to you is: if it was so easy to go to the moon that the Americans returned many times, HOW COME THE RUSSIANS NEVER LANDED ON THE MOON???

[@Stubrit]

Was that the interview where someone edited an astronaut who wasn't on Apollo 11 being asked about his Skylab mission to look as if the question was about Apollo?

[@lauroneto3360]

Ask scientists from the 60s. Wait, something doesn’t sound right.

[@notchagrandpa8875]

Hush you know Americans went to the moon there's no way they faked it I mean just look at all the really cool places we've went since the 1960's startrek alone traveled all over the Galaxy or was startrek faked too.

[@DeputyNordburg]

@@notchagrandpa8875 Like the trip that photographed Pluto last year? Amazing.

[@notchagrandpa8875]

@@DeputyNordburg I have no doubt that we have unmanned telescopes lost in space that we launched years ago, those are just floating through space, we never plan or have the ability to bring them back to earth, it's the moon landing I'm skeptical of, NASA has publicly admitted that they are close to figuring out how to send a manned mission through the Van Allen belt, I was like wait a minute I thought we already knew how to travel through the Van Allen belts didn't Apollo and others fly through the belts decades ago? The Dutch decided 50 years after Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin presented Holland with a piece of the moon in the form of a moon rock, they would analyse it and they determined through their testing process it was a fake, turns out the famous moon rock was a piece of petrified wood that can be found in many places on Earth. I doubt the moon has ever had trees growing on it but who knows.

[@stickykitty]

Notcha Grandpa well said

[@DeputyNordburg]

@@notchagrandpa8875 I have no doubted that if you only watch highly edited hoax videos you would be skeptical of the moon landings. The NASA guy who says "before we send people through this area of space". is definitely talking about the Van Allen belts (wink wink right) I mean we can assume that part. And that's all the proof any good skeptic would need.

[@thefiveoceans1902]

Reminder, if you write “mega electron volt” it has a capital M, otherwise it’s “milli electron volt”. Great video!

[@frasercain]

Oh yeah, thanks.

[@onlythefacts999]

Good news everyone! You'll be delivering a package past the deadly Van Allen Belts of Earth.

[@JustOneAsbesto]

Yeah, I noticed that too. Very Farnsworth.

[@frasercain]

Yeah, that was the inspiration. :-)

[@zapfanzapfan]

More fans of Futurama I see :-)

[@alexmorrison303]

Xe4 hi 🔮🔮

[@carlosrosario9485]

One astronut said he didn't know about the belts so because of that he was exempt from radiation exposure,what a nutcracker lol!

[@theonewiththeeyeoftruth884]

No, wrong.

[@UniDeathRaven]

lmao

[@LanceAlam]

@@theonewiththeeyeoftruth884 prove it

[@theonewiththeeyeoftruth884]

@@LanceAlam Prove what? You guys don't know anything. You prove that for me.

[@LanceAlam]

@@theonewiththeeyeoftruth884 I'm not "you guys", I haven't made any claims at all. I'm just asking how you know the commenter is wrong. Unless you don't know. This is a learning experience for me, I'm all ears.

[@deangiusti1884]

The answer to the question How did Apollo get thru Van Allen belts....'they weren't in there long enough for concern". Ok great. But why have astronaut after astronaut claim they're still working on a solution to get past the belts today? It doesn't fit. It's either lethal or it isn't. You have astronauts on the ISS saying time and again that they can't get thru yet Apollo waltzed right thru like Dorothy skipping down the yellow brick road. It doesn't fit.

[@frasercain]

They're always working on solutions to make it safer. NASA wants to minimize the radiation load on both the astronauts and their electronics.

[@spoicydeemer985]

they actually went around the van allen belts, they still went through, but only through the weaker parts, they were also only there for 6 hours, not enough time for it to be deadly. The pod was also laced with protection, a thin sheet of plastic or a high density material like tungsten is enough to stop most of the radiation, also remember this isnt the same radiation like in Uranium or something, this type of radiation is called alpha and beta radiation, alpha particles are just positively charged helium nuclei left over by the sun's solar winds these particles are easy to stop however beta particles are isolated electrons, since they have so much energy these guys are the ones you have to worry about, anyway, its easy to assume stuff like this at first glance, but make sure you always do a little research before assuming something like "fake moon landings"

[@PunishedFelix]

I can't believe 16 people actually upvoted this autistic comment

[@skyguy1236]

Different rockets carry out different tasks at different speeds. They must design this stuff for any new rocket design. That's my guess

[@fontunetheteller410]

you know nothing about radiation. If I expose my hand to 5 minutes to 100 Radons, my hand would rot. If I expose my hand to 100 radons for 1 second, nothing happens. NOTHING. Xrays give off radiation, and Tube TV, and sometimes even the dirt you walk on depending on where you are.

[@youtubebot6297]

This video proves we never went to the moon in the 60s

[@alliancefrancaise4895]

@@mike-Occslong : It Proves u haven't watched this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6OZh5asoZWCm7c

[@floydpik51]

This is all bull! Why are we worried about theses belts now just send the Astronauts up like you did in 1969. If they fry they fry. Pure science fiction.

[@lika92100]

@ Mike Rowe, I thought that I was all alone in thinking this.

[@youtubebot6297]

@@mike-Occslong your obviously trolling flattards . Get a life

[@youtubebot6297]

@@mike-Occslong and if its so stupid why do you waste your time on something so ridiculous.?

[@patdawkins6785]

We have no need to escape. God made the heaven and earth. We have all we need.

[@NickPoeschek]

I remember seeing or reading an interview with one of the Apollo astronauts where they said something along the line of (and I'm paraphrasing here) "keep in mind that most of these guys flew fighter jets off carriers, fought MiGs in Korea, and flew as test pilots. Something like radiation didn't really scare us."

[@frasercain]

Yeah, this wasn't too high up in their list of fears.

[@mako88sb]

+Nick Poeschek Yes, it's like how some hoax believers go on about how they went 6 for 6 landings(ignoring Apollo 13 here) which seems impossible to them but they completely ignore or do not know about the extensive aviation careers these guys had. These guys were probably the best-trained pilots ever so landing the LM at a final approach speed measured in a few feet/sec vs 120+ mph would be pretty easy, except of course the type of terrain they were landing on plus the dust kicked up near the end.

[@d.samuels6673]

That moment when your calling someone "dumb" while using the rong you're....I like irony, and MY typo's we're intentional, lol.

[@bruceszczepinski6150]

Just more confusion in finding the Truth😩 . it bugs the heck out of me because i just dont know who to believe.... In the end, maybe, i just doesn't matter. What does matter is if you trust and believe in Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. " All have sinned and fall short of His Glory" Romans3:23. Humble yourself, repent of your sins, ask GOD to forgive you of your sins and give your life to Jesus!

[@stickykitty]

Nick Poeschek I bet it didn’t scare them! even more so, knowing that were not having to go through the van allen belts

[@allureesthetics1862]

2000’s : We must understand the van Allen belts to pass humans through space 1969: we passed through the van Allen belts without much radiation

[@SomewhereOverTheRainbow2023]

The whole things is so pathetic that it makes me laugh

[@t__c__l9603]

fake. they never sent humans beyond the V A radiation belts... or if they did they died or something else happened to them. this would also explain the lost russian cosmonauts, the moon fake landing, and the reason why ISS is always in low Earth orbit.

[@justaguy1229]

@@t__c__l9603 The guy literally explains in the video how they got through and why it’s still a problem

[@GThu1]

Yea, this video debunks itself (and the Apollo mission). Strange.

[@philtaylor7476]

Go around it, up above the North Pole and over.

[@BOOGY110011]

Like for units in kilometers.

[@frasercain]

We put up both for this episode.

[@richards5800]

Leave the belts where they are! Why would you wanna move them away from eartb

[@frasercain]

You wouldn't want to move them, but you'd want to understand how our communications interacts with them.

[@punkyroo]

Do the human-produced low frequency waves that push on the Van Allen Belts, in and of themselves, create any sort of protective barrier from solar radiation? And, to extend this, could a civilization generate their own protective magnetic bubble (intentionally, or as a byproduct of their technology) that would protect a planet that otherwise has a weak magnetic field?

[@frasercain]

This is what some of the upcoming experiments are going to try to determine. So, stay tuned.

[@aspiringprogrammer2820]

Van allen belts???? No problem,just do it fast!!!!! Now,what are we waiting to go back to the moon???? We did it and we know exactly how to do it again,right????

[@cgaccount3669]

So you believe in the belts you say? But the same people worked on getting astronauts safely thru them but you don't believe that? The only thing stopping anything is funding

[@aspiringprogrammer2820]

CG Account if money is the problem then we better create some other system that is not based on money,because when someone depends on money for everything and it don't have it,it will limit its potential.

[@godwillodindo6826]

grumpy god aluminum tapes will do the trick 😂😂

[@mike-Occslong]

....yes that's exactly right.

[@Siviks309]

Maybe that's why aliens don't invade earth.

[@frasercain]

We can get out easily enough, they could get in.

[@Siviks309]

Fraser Cain makes sense since they would have interstellar travel

[@Siviks309]

jimmyfly they are lot of things about aliens probably fake, but the probability of it being real is high as the government don't want panic they could be hiding it as we speak.

[@oK-wc8nj]

Tough Lizard 😂 😂 your name 😂 😂

[@MissPresley69]

They have LOOOONG ago. They never left.

[@nanaki5467]

This is probably the best simplified educational video about the Van Allen Betls. Well guided with well chosen questions the information given raises.

[@qwertyuiopas4285]

This is proof they didnt go to the moon. Its a soft disclosure, indirectly saying they didnt go.

[@michaelreed727]

Relying on luck to make it safely through the Van Allen belts worked out for them not only once, but nine times? That is truly pushing the odds.

[@notchagrandpa8875]

Perhaps they only want people to believe they were so lucky, I for one highly doubt we ever made it to the moon but by faking it we could assure Russia would continue trying and likely go broke in the process and that's exactly what happened causing the Soviet Union to collapse several years later.

[@Thee-_-Outlier]

It's even more mystifying that they claim they "destroyed the technology" that got them to the moon and it would be too much of a hassle to replicate it lol. The greatest achievement in human history is simply destroyed and lost to time? I don't think so lolol

[@Kannatron]

Dude, your videos are so informative and chill. I'll sometimes just sit down and watch your videos

[@dpolitic]

All Apollo missions had a special green phone, they used it to call the guy with the bird( aka god) who switched the Van Allen belt off, just for the time needed for them to pass the belts swimming only with their speedos on. Same phone was used by Richard Nixon ( someone you can definitely trust) to call the Moon ( somewhere on earth) . By the way, it was the same guy ( aka god) which filmed and took the pictures of the brave actro-astronauts on the surface of the moon ( somewhere on earth) . Since then half a century passed and unfortunately we lost the technology, of course this is all logical to the logical person which gave his mind to the government to hold it as a deposit. Yes, it makes sense, humans are definitely a piece of art ( aka unbelievably dumb ass herd of sheep ).

[@skipperrussell2025]

Get back to your video games.

[@solartaire1]

Yep, you're right about one thing - half a century has passed and despite all your fevered speculation you guys still haven't proven that it was all a hoax. I mean, c'mon! fifty years and still nothing? Not one shred of actual evidence. Must suck to believe in a conspiracy that hasn't moved forward for five whole decades.

[@orangkaya1831]

so i can make conclusion, that the ,most reasonable is we never went to the moon.

[@johnnyt3029]

If we can put a man on the moon why can't we figure a way past the Van Allen Belt?

[@frasercain]

Did you see the video? The Van Allen Belt isn't a huge risk compared to the other dangers of spaceflight, as long as you go quickly.

[@TommyTippy598]

haha got it. Perfect!

[@codybrown8066]

We never went to the moon.

[@kararishere7374]

Cody Brown Shut up.

[@sergior8667]

xLookBehindYou no

[@punkyroo]

Is there any value to the high energy particles in the Van Allen Belts? Are they usable for anything (e.g. energy generation.)?

[@frasercain]

Not that I can think of.

[@ioresult]

In the Kerbal Space Program Interstellar mod, you can harvest antimatter from the belts.

[@pyrotash]

Punky Rooster personaly i think they are best left alone mess them up and we'll we are all in for trouble.

[@AubriGryphon]

The Van Allen belts could have been named the Vernov Belts, but Sputnik 2 passed through them while out of range of Soviet comms and the Australia wouldn't hand over the raw data unless the USSR gave them the keys to decode it themselves.

[@frasercain]

That's really cool, I had no idea.

[@WDEMMEL]

According to the second by second post flight tracactory report from Boeing, Appolo 11 stayed at all times between 40 degrees north and 40 degrees south. That makes their tracactory smack middle of the Van Allan Belt. That is the exact opposite of what this video tries to sell. I guess, I stick to reading original documents.

[@jamiemclaughlin9710]

Fraser Cain your vids are so informative and easy to watch and listen to. keep up the good work

[@frasercain]

Thanks a lot, I'm glad you enjoyed it.

[@mptvska]

And the best of all it proves the fake moon landing

[@martinsolomon5500]

@@frasercain they are hilarious propaganda based on total lies

[@martinsolomon5500]

@@frasercain nobody went to the moon

[@Austin-cl9gm]

Why are there gaps between the belts? And where did the third belt go when it dissipated?

[@frasercain]

They're two different classes of particles, sort of why a comet has two tails. The magnetosphere picks up one group of particles in one region, and then the next group of particles in another region.

[@Vulcano7965]

Can you specify which partiecles? Electrons in the inner belt and protons in the outer?

[@itsahandle]

The War Pheonix it went home

[@TheNerd484]

Would it be possible to use vlf waves emitted from a spacecraft to make a hole in the Van Allen belts around that spacecraft?

[@frasercain]

I think this is what these upcoming experiments will be for. Stay tuned.

[@alanhilton3611]

I liked the song "jump"....that one rocked 😊.

[@GeeeeezGamingIL]

Any one noticed that he actually listened to the requests and added imperial units as well as metric units? That's why I love you Fraser. That, and your beard. I love it.

[@mikeoxhuge]

That tin can we all went to see in museum of space as school children was not a multi composition shell.

[@DeputyNordburg]

Just the BoPET insulation was a multi composition shell.

[@davidshafer1872]

QUESTION. Do we know if these Van Allen belts help us in some way on Earth? Would pushing them away with VLF maybe cause more UV rays to reach earth?

[@frasercain]

They absolutely help us on Earth, they're protecting us from deadly space radiation.

[@Agent_Clark]

@@frasercain so we should remove them to cure the human cancer right? Thats how they treat cancer? Right?

[@martinsolomon5500]

@@frasercain what protected the astronauts from deadly radiation on the moon 😂😂😂

[@robm4134]

Hey Fraser, any updates on the feasibility of a spacecraft-generated magnetic field to protect astronauts? Any estimates on how large or powerful the fields would need to be? Can it be done without cooking the onboard computers?

[@frasercain]

There have been some experiments to try and deal with it, but nothing that's going to work at scale... yet. We've got a couple of episodes in the works on this.

[@truckcaptainstumpy1978]

Fraser Cain - this might actually be feasible once we get fusion down pat

[@Barnardrab]

I was thinking that myself, Stumpy.

[@Vulcano7965]

You can check out Isaac Arthurs episode on force fields.

[@RedBatRacing]

Just build your ship like the battlestar Galactica. Radiation piff, how about direct nuclear explosion

[@vovacat1797]

Hey, Fraiser! A question for u. We all know a blac hole's hrizon shape is affected by its spin. But can a BH's shape be changed by... Tidal forces? Can the black hole itself be spagettified? Can you rip a BH appart into many tiny BHs with a Roche Limit thing?

[@MikelObowski]

So, the take away. The belts were discovered in 1958 and in only 11 years we figured out how to get past them and land on the moon. Yet, decades later we're talking about going to Mars but again trying to figure out how to get past them since all those historical mathematical calculations were "accidentally" destroyed. If only Stanley Kubrick were still alive we'd have film of us landing on Mars.

[@frasercain]

No, the biggest radiation risk in going to Mars is the galactic cosmic radiation, which is much more dangerous and hard to protect against. Getting through the Van Allen Belts only takes a few hours, while you can't avoid GCR.

[@robst247]

Lots of interesting info and some wonderful graphics, but I was eager to see one showing the actual inbound and outbound trajectories taken by the Apollo lunar missions and was disappointed that it was not included. Also - what about the findings of the unmanned Orion test mission? Wasn't that supposed to collect detailed data on the effects of VA-belt radiation on the crew space and onboard electronics? Has NASA since published the results? I would love to see both subjects covered in a future video, Fraser.

[@frasercain]

The picture is kicking around somewhere. This article has some good pictures: www.braeunig.us/apollo/apollo11-TLI.htm

[@robst247]

Fraser Cain Yes, thanks - I'm familiar with that webpage, but I'd love to see a modern 3D videographic presentation of the Apollo trajectories, showing the spinning Earth and the VA belts.

[@mako88sb]

+Rob Stuart Yes, also showing the Orion test trajectory would be great.

[@robst247]

mako88sb I agree. I also wonder why the radiation measurements of the unmanned Orion test mission are not publicly available.

[@hijtohema]

+Rob Stuart There you go (at least I think. Just browsed through them to check) First is one is a pdf ston.jsc.nasa.gov/collections/trs/_techrep/TP-2015-218575.pdf I hope this one works. Had to trick it a bit. Powerpoint presentation. Can be opened in Open Office Impress as well www.google.nl/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&ved=0ahUKEwiRmJSH3-rVAhXQLFAKHa_rCyAQFghJMAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nasa.gov%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Fatoms%2Ffiles%2Feft1_radiation_results_7_29_15.pptx&usg=AFQjCNHXNEF7BsU9YVwLAAAA2_6rWUmedQ The reason it takes a bit more effort to find them is because they're not meant for the general public, but for scientists and engineers involved in space exploration. Dry stuff with a lot of graphs and technical and scientific gobbledygook

[@Trugoy1000]

I can see this video pissing off a lot of flat earthers.

[@frasercain]

Nah, they'll just say they know more about radiation than NASA.

[@DrewLSsix]

Fraser Cain. Nope, they believe in the belts. Thats their backup reason for why all space travel is a hoax.

[@4jane2man0]

Sesar Gomez don't bother with Round Earthers, they are just trolls.

[@DuckDoesGaming]

Trugoy1000 I wouldn't worry about Flat Earthers. After all they are just trolling.

[@SamvedIyer]

LOL

[@Masonmpj]

Is it possible to create artificial mini van allen belts to help block the radiation on space crafts so we can travel the solar system safely? If I understand them correctly they prevent hazardous materials from getting to earth but they are also bad to be close to?

[@NYknicks2000]

Hey fraser. I was watching an old video of yours, and you said that one of the classifications that made Pluto no longer a planet was the fact that it hadn't cleared its orbit, but Pluto crosses orbits with Neptune at a point... doesn't that also disqualify Neptune from being a planet? thanks

[@frasercain]

It's a matter of scale. Neptune is millions of times more massive than everything else in its orbit, while Pluto is just one iceball among many.

[@DamianReloaded]

I'll be inside the water tanks while we pass through the _Eddie's_ belt. Thank you very much! **grabs snorkel**

[@frasercain]

Exactly, that's the best form of radiation protection.

[@truckcaptainstumpy1978]

@Fraser Cain - a snorkel is the best form of radiation protection? no wonder you see so many in florida or the mediterranean...

[@JulieeBees]

Isnt the best form of radiation protection lead?

[@DamianReloaded]

_According to Wikipedia, the upper estimate for a dose equivalent received by unshielded astronauts operating outside Earth's magnetic field (such as a mission to Mars) is about 90,000 R/yr or about 10 R/hour. If we assume the energy levels are comparable, reducing that to lower than Earth background radiation would only require a layer of water around 1 meter thick_ [...] _What water works better is for neutrons_ [...] _So why is that good? A neutron is neutral, it has no charge. So it's hard to interact with. But a proton (which is the core of the hydrogen that makes up a lot of water) is charged. So you shoot a neutron at a proton, the neutron comes to a dead stop, and the proton goes flying. But that proton is charged, and every single electron in the water is going to interact with it, and it will stop in very short order_

[@mako88sb]

+magicshark "Isnt the best form of radiation protection lead?" Not for all applications because of bremsstrahlung.

[@po2ya]

Hi Mr. Cain , taking about Van Allen belt, do other planets got some sort of belt too , for example Mars? and by the way I really enjoy your channel and really appreciate your efforts ✌👏👍👍

[@frasercain]

Yes, many other planets have their own magnetospheres. Mars actually doesn't which is one of the reasons why it'll be tough to colonize.

[@po2ya]

Fraser Cain and do we know why it doesn't got one?

[@Bryan-Hensley]

Pooya Payam the core of Mars went cold. The churning liquid metals inside the earth creates a huge generator that powers the magnetic field.

[@hundejahre]

Question for a future Q&A: Like probably millions of others I was able to witness the 8/21/17 eclipse, including the totality. For the most part every preconceived idea I had going into it turned out to be wrong, so it was a day full of surprises, with perhaps the biggest being how small the sun actually looked when viewing through the approved solar glasses. So the question is, did the glasses reduce the size of the sun as some sort of optical effect? Was I seeing the surface of the sun for the first time and what I think of as the surface when I see the sun out of the corner of my eye or on an overcast day not the actual surface but a boundary where the energy escaping the sun is still hot enough to visibly glow but of the type designed to be filtered? Some third option I haven't thought of yet? There were three of us in our party, using solar glasses from two different providers. Two of us wear glasses (and placed the filter directly on top of our glasses) while the third has 20/20 vision and used the solar glasses directly. We all noticed the size difference. We viewed the eclipse from Grand Island, Nebraska with totality coming at slightly after 12:58 central time. I'm aware of the optical illusion of something on the horizon appearing larger than something higher in the sky with nothing to compare it to, but in this case I'm only comparing how the sun appeared through the filter versus how it appears without in roughly the same place in the sky. All this information is for completeness, please feel free to edit it to an appropriate question length if you decide to answer it. Love the show, thanks for the hard work you and everyone else put into it.

[@EvolBob1]

Fraser Cain Could they not use high powered magnets to deflect the Solar Wind from spacecraft? All you would need is a metal pole the length of the craft, wrap a lot of wire around it, then use Solar power from the fuel cells to power the electromagnet. There might be some other configuration that could be better?

[@kennyford5680]

Hard to believe NASA or anyone would play russian roulette with people's lives in such a cavalier way. Personally I sincerely doubt we have ever left lower earth orbit for exactly this reason, seems much too like hit and miss IMHO.

[@frasercain]

You don't think humans have left low Earth orbit, or anything? Once astronauts head out with EM-1, will you be convinced then? What if the SpaceX BFR is regularly sending humans to Mars? Then? And if you do then, will you retroactively believe that Apollo did?

[@kennyford5680]

I don't think Apollo left lower earth orbit.

[@dizzydoom4230]

We're the same species that invented city-leveling weapons on mass destruction, cell phones that can call people anywhere on the planet with signal avaliable, a world wide web of easily accessible information, and pressurized flying machines that can take your from the U.S. to China in a matter of a day or two. How is it so hard to believe we never left Earth? We're a pretty smart friggin' species.

[@YDDES]

Kenny Ford How do you get their radio signals from cislunar space and Moon, if the spacecraft is in Earth orbit???...

[@kennyford5680]

Probes and Satellites is all we have right now that leaves earth orbit, to think that we landed on the moon in the 1960s in nothing more than a tin can seems very unlikely. It takes decades upon decades to put something like that together in real life (not the movies). I admired JFK he was a great man, and when he said "we will put a man on the Moon in this decade" I thought OK, and thought we had landed on the Moon at the time along with everyone else. However as time goes by it has become more and more unlikely and improbable. Don't you think that China Japan or even ESA would have sent man further than Lower Earth Orbit if it was possible. Mankind has done wonderful things no doubt but putting feet on another celestial body isn't one of them at this point it time. Sorry it just isn't true.

[@CarlosEspinaH]

I really enjoyed this video, great job

[@frasercain]

Thanks a lot!

[@KristianWontroba]

Thank you for this video. I didn't all the details about the Van Allen belts. Great stuff!

[@erictobias7]

Well disinformation that is ..

[@twistedyogert]

Gotta go fast! That's my solution. Same thing with going to other planets, the shorter amount of time astronauts spend in transit, the fewer rays they are exposed to. I also had the idea of using superconducting magnets to surround a spaceship with an artificial magnetic field to deflect charged particles. There are types of superconductors that use nitrogen as a coolant because it would be easier to mine from Earth, considering the fact that Earth's atmosphere is mostly nitrogen.

[@frasercain]

Yeah, the Van Allen Belts are actually the least troublesome of the different kinds of radiation out there. Solar winds can be lethal in hours, and galactic cosmic radiation is non-stop and really hard to prevent.

[@ernestotorres7829]

Hmmm. If the damage from the Van Allen belts was easily mitigated during the Apollo missions with "primitive" technology, why are these belts still a major concern for NASA, in spite of the technological advances since that time? It seems to me that given the "ease" that the Apollo missions went through these belts (i.e., low RAD's, 1970's space suit tech, etc), these belts, in reference to space travel, should be a moot point.

[@frasercain]

+ernesto torres they were a concern back then, but the radiation levels weren't too bad. They still don't have a way to redirect the particles. So the plan will still be to use shielding, go quickly and follow a path that avoids the bulk of the radiation

[@cgaccount3669]

As the video stated the belts are unpredictable and can be dangerous. Just because the astronauts got thru okay doesn't mean they aren't a concern. It would be crazy to not advance safety systems beyond what worked in the 1960s. I survived childhood without a seatbelt but that doesn't mean seatbelts and airbag development was pointless

[@SolusVir]

@@cgaccount3669 It worked 12 times. Not once. A dozen times. And avoiding radiation exposure in a known zone of radiation is not analogous to avoiding an injurious automobile accident.

[@chuckloner]

When he said that experiments are going to be conducted to modify the belts, did anyone just think "oh, what if the researchers break it?" Don't break it pls

[@frasercain]

It would be pretty tough to actually break the belts. More like redirect them to get through with less damage.

[@tokyokhot1104]

Theres like hundreds of satellites in space or is that a lie???

[@DrewLSsix]

Peter khot. Tjeres thousands of satelites around earth.... most within the inner belt. Others designed to deal with them. The radiation can certainly be dealt with, but at a significant cost.

[@aracelyemmett3493]

You got something different from that van allen study the latest one I mean. What I remember reading was the belt was more complex and our previous information wasn't correct and the belt could be more dangerous than previously thought.

[@carlm.m.5470]

Yes, it switches from 2 to 3 during intense solar activity, often also switching from 3 to 2 with one large inner belt and a smaller outer or vice versa. or the 3rd and 1st only. And there is still much to learn.

[@benbriscoe7832]

Subscribed. You are very good in presenting the videos. I am new to all this so I have learnt alot from your videos. Cheers from the U.K.

[@NoMoreForeignWars]

Fun fact: Frasers bald head makes him more aerodynamic when he ascends into space to rejoin his people every year.

[@truckcaptainstumpy1978]

Awesome vid heck yeah i would pass through the belts to travel in space!

[@frasercain]

Okay great, I've got your waiver right... here.

[@truckcaptainstumpy1978]

does it need a digital signature, physical signature, or just my acknowledgement ? :) Ready to launch whenever you need me BOSS!

[@AtlasReburdened]

I'm with Stumpy here, GET ME OFF THIS ROCK.

[@Visocacas]

Hey Fraser I was wondering, is it possible to see the sun's corona just after sunset or before sunrise? Technically it's an eclipse behind the limb of the Earth.

[@DrunkenUFOPilot]

There's too much light scattered by our atmosphere, even during those twighlight times when the entire disk of the sun is below the horizon. The corona is quite faint. But on the Moon, I wonder. The Apollo astronauts were on the surface always with both the Earth and Sun high up.

[@onesunghero]

If i wanted to do a eclipse tour around the world following the moons shadow so i could see one a few times a week what resource would i look too to find the path of the moons shadow?

[@davidshafer1872]

QUESTION: What color would a star really be if I coukd look at it with my own eyes?

[@frasercain]

It depends on the star. Some would look red, others would look white and others would look blue.

[@farawaywayfarer7685]

Loved the Prof. Farnsworth intro

[@astrobiological7058]

Cool video! keep it up, keep igniting ang feeding the fire of our space curiosity

[@tumarbongrox6074]

NASA claims to have traveled to the Moon *Six times* in less than *Three and a half years!!* (1st Moon landing) Apollo 11 July 20,1969 / (Last Moon landing) Apollo 17 December 11, 1972.... That means that they would have traveled through the deadly radiation in the Van Allen belts *12 TIMES!!* oh but wait a minute, in this video NASA claims that they still need to do more research before sending any humans through the Van Allen belts?? kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZvMaHuVl9d1l5Y Im puzzled!! What is the *REAL* TRUTH Nasa??

[@narrator69]

I see VLF shielding, some form of high power transmitter that creates a bubble for passage through the belts

[@joearchuleta7538]

how come the ancients new of the van allen belts!!!

[@mylesbishop1240]

I end up in an existential dilemma whenever I contemplate the vastness of space, interactions of particles, and us as humans on this lone planet.... why does all this exist. Anyways SOLAR ECLIPSE comin' our way :)

[@frasercain]

No kidding, we're just packing now, and I'm madly checking the weather at Carbondale, where we'll be on Monday. I can't wait.

[@CustomTies]

there is no reason why , why should there be ? How is a question we can at lease try and answer.

[@ametalex7733]

if a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound? if consciousness wasn't here to witness the universe, does it really exist?

[@CustomTies]

birds and animals will get startled with the sound of a tree falling, you can record both the sound of a tree falling and the reaction of animals if you need proof.

[@BetterDeadThanRed99]

I had always suspected that the Van Allen belts, being a toroidal field - have areas at the top and bottom that are much thinner and if traveling at sufficient velocity through those areas, a majority of the radiation can be avoided. Looks like I was right! Another thing that occurred to me: couldn't we also use powerful electromagnets to produce a force field that repels the charged energetic particles? Supposing we had a portable nuclear fusion reactor in space and energy usage was of no concern - I don't see why not...

[@BetterDeadThanRed99]

If we're going to commercialize space travel then it might be a good idea to ensure the safety of the passengers with a powerful electromagnetic field similar to the kind commonly used in magnetic resonance imaging machines.

[@PesulapDapur]

8:12 "..finally, the mission depended..ON LUCK.." 😅😂😅😄😂

[@frasercain]

If a powerful solar storm hit the astronauts during the mission, it could have been fatal.

[@troyjordan9683]

what about us triangular Earthers?

[@happyrappy]

Ok i'm no Enstien but haven't we already figured out how to get past the belt after all we did go to the moon didn't we?

[@mako88sb]

Of course, we did. That doesn't change the fact that we still don't know as much about them as we would like or how it could impact future space travel. Look at how long people were flying before the hazards of microbursts were properly identified in the mid-1970's.

[@MattJohno2]

Watch the whole video and you'll see.

[@MattJohno2]

You mean the CGI that didn't exist until two years after Apollo 17 left the moon? Congrats on that. Seriously, if they didn't go to the moon, why would anyone care? It's not like anyone would break down over it. If anything it'd motivate the general public to start trying to reach the moon, and some might actually achieve it. So, why would NASA fake it? There would literally no point in faking a landing on the moon.

[@mako88sb]

+MercyReaper If you ever do attempt to do some proper research, you would find that every single supposed bit of evidence brought up about alleged proof regarding hoaxing the Apollo landings have been debunked over the years. Most of it with relative ease because the supposed proof is usually based on complete ignorance of the particular subject involved. Meanwhile, there is tons of scientific evidence that is irrefutable which has been accessible to scientists and aerospace engineers for the last 45+ years who have never found anything that might suggest the landings were faked so it's only people who lack critical thinking skills who fall for this moon landing hoax nonsense. Here's some of it: -> There's the live TV coverage that would have to somehow convincingly fake 1/6th G movement in a vacuum, Google "Irrefutable Proof for Moon Landing - Lunar Gravity" and explain how experts in the field of kinematics for 45+ years have never come forward with proof that the astronauts are not in an environment that they say they are. There's also the fact that any attempts to do filmed mock-ups of the eva's on Earth would have to be passed off as live TV broadcasts which would have to fool telecommunications experts around the world. Google "Moon Hoax Not" and "For Jarrah" to get a better understanding of how much would be involved to pull that off and how the filming technology back then was simply incapable of such a thing. -> There's all the moon rock and core samples that would have to somehow be able to pass scrutiny with geologists who can readily spot whether it's something that has passed through our atmosphere or not. Google "How do we know that rock came from the moon?" -> NASA has made these samples available to scientists from around the world and every year 500-1000 samples are sent out. Google: "NASA lunar sample request" -> There's the Apollo 16 UV telescope images that no astronomer in 45+ years has ever found fault with. Google "onebigmonkey apollo 16 UV telescope" -> Another thing that astronomers would be able to spot are pictures of the Earth that don't match what they should look like. Google "Apollo 11 Earthrise - How One Photo Proves it was Real" for an example. -> Another one to google is "Apollo 11: Fingerprints in Deep Space" that shows obvious handheld TV footage from the Apollo 11 CM looking at Earth from far enough away that they are clearly beyond the VAB's. -> Then there are the LOR images. Lots of hoax believer nonsense about them being faked but the transmittal data for them can be downloaded by anybody with a computer and so far, nobody has proven anything about them being faked. You don't think a smoking gun like that wouldn't have been scrutinized by people with the required computer science expertise?? -> Here's something else you might not know. Apollo 12 landed close enough to Surveyor 3 that Conrad & Bean were able to do an Eva to it and removed the camera and sampler scoop from it to be returned back to Earth. They wanted to see what the harmful conditions of the moon had done to those parts after 2.5 years: Google "Analysis of Surveyor 3 Material ad photographs returned by Apollo 12" -> 5 plutonium-238 powered ALSEP's were left behind that transmitted data from the experiments back to Earth right up till 1977. Unfortunately, due to budget constraints, they were shut down but they did send back enough information that storage of it became a real problem as detailed in this article: Google "the-long-road-to-alsep-data-recovery" -> Starting with Apollo 13, they purposely directed the spent S-IVB's to crash into the moon so that the Apollo 12 seismograph could record the seismic waves generated to help determine the moon's crustal structure and makeup. Of course, as each successful mission added another ALSEP, they were able to expand on the info derived from these man-made impacts. They also did the same with the lunar module ascent stages. The Apollo 16 LM ascent stage data isn't shown because of difficulties during the de-orbit phase. They were able to derive a lot of info from these artificial impacts. Google "The Description of Apollo Seismic Experiments darts" -> Another great site to check out has some pretty thorough crater analyzing to prove the landings happened. You can check out all six of the landings this way: Google "onebigmonkey apollo sights landing" Are you starting to understand the magnitude of what would be involved to pull a hoax like this off? Never mind keeping it from being exposed? I suggest you also take the time to read through the 93-page pdf titled "NASA’s Recommendations to Space-Faring Entities: How to Protect and Preserve the Historic and Scientific Value of U.S. Government Lunar Artifacts". There is lots of nonsense from hoax believers that the USA is trying to make the Apollo sites inaccessible which is ridiculous seeing as these are only recommendations designed to limit harmful effects of spacecraft landing too close or the altitude of hopper type craft flying at too low of an altitude. The fact is, the USA has no issue at all with visits to the sites by manned or unmanned means. They do request the Apollo 11 and 17 sites are accorded with the proper respect due to the obvious historic value. Also, there is an Appendix B in the pdf that gives a lot of recommendations from NASA as to what type of investigations at the Apollo sites would be most beneficial for scientific purposes. Now does this seem like the type of behavior for a country that supposedly faked all of this?? As I said, irrefutable proof that has withstood scrutiny by the relevant experts from around the world in all the specialties involved for 45+ years which in my book proves beyond a doubt that the landings happened just the way they were documented 45+ years ago and which easily trumps people like you with your "it's fake because I say so" nonsense.

[@Bnio]

That was beautiful I wish I could take credit for this, but I somebody in a KZbin comment wrote this years ago, and does a good job showing the scope of what a hoax would entail. How to perpetrate a "moon landing hoax": 1) Design and build a rocket fully capable of lifting the required payload for a manned lunar circumnavigation. 2) Design and build a command/service module fully capable of transporting a three-man crew to the moon and back. 3) Design and build a lunar module fully capable of taking a two-man crew from lunar orbit to the lunar surface and back again. 4) Bribe the Russians not to say anything, and to pretend they're competing for the same goal, even though they could expose the "hoax" at any time. 5) Convince several hundred thousand people that they're designing and building machines intended for an actual manned lunar circumnavigation and landing, and not participating in an elaborate hoax. Distribute bribe money as required. 6) Devise a system for remotely placing laser retroreflectors on the lunar surface, which behave in exactly the same manner as the ones that weren't really placed there by astronauts. 7) Devise a system for remotely placing objects on the lunar surface that can be photographed from orbit 40 years later and appear exactly the same as the site of a manned landing should look. Include human-looking footpaths for extra effect. 8) Devise a system for creating fake radio signals that appear to be emanating from the vicinity of the moon, and can be detected by any amateur radio operator with commercially available receiving equipment. 9) Make obvious blunders that the entire scientific community will miss, but a couple of retards on KZbin will pick up immediately. 10) Fake half a dozen missions, and make one of them look like a failure for added realism. 11) Murder your astronaut "whistle-blowers" by destroying a spacecraft and aircraft worth millions of dollars. 12) Convince the Congress to cancel the last three hoax missions, even though the hardware is already built. 13) Build fake sets with far greater detail than what can be mapped of the actual lunar terrain, knowing full well the fakery would be exposed in their own lifetimes. 14) Create, and make publicly available, millions of pages of fake documentation pertaining to the fake planning, fake preparation, and fake execution of the fake missions. No level of detail is too extreme. If someone wants to learn about one of the fake switches in the fake lunar module, make sure the NASA website contains reams of data on where the fake switch was located, what fake function it performed, how often someone pretended to use it, and who did the pretending. To which I would add: Build soundstages 10, maybe 100 times larger than any building ever built, complete with mountains and craters. Fill it with pristine soil without a hint of human touch. Have a single light source literally as bright as the sun set at infinity for all practical purposes. Oh, and make all of this a vacuum chamber.

[@michaelharmer5174]

Would it take more force to push up from the side of the wall on the ISS closest to the Earth to the other side. Than it would the opposite way around?

[@michaelharmer5174]

or does weightlessness feel the same on the ISS as it would if you were stuck half way between the Earth and the Moon?

[@frasercain]

It would feel the same since both you and the ISS are in freefall together.

[@terryweaver9140]

Could the effect of terrestrial transmission on natural magnetic fields be used for seti?

[@JustOneAsbesto]

How do they plan to get James Webb through the belts with as little damage as possible??

[@frasercain]

It's a robot, it doesn't care.

[@schadenfreudebuddha]

the robots working on Chernobyl cleanup cared...but maybe that was a whole different kind of radiation. unless you mean literally the emotional capacity to "care" in which case, no, it can't care until we figure out a.i.

[@robst247]

Fraser Cain But microchips can sustain damage due to charged particles, ions and Bremsstrahlung, so the question seems valid and deserves an answer, doesn't it? Robots can get zapped, so they SHOULD care!

[@frasercain]

Right, but the amount is what I'm talking about. Robotic spacecraft can handle significantly more radiation load than humans, and the Apollo astronauts received less than 1% of their maximum mission safety amount. Really powerful magnetospheres, like Jupiter's, are a problem for robotic spacecraft but it's less of a concern for Earth, especially if you're just passing through it.

[@robst247]

Fraser Cain Sure, the radiation around Jupiter is far more intense than that around Earth; also, satellites that orbit Earth long-term are far more likely to sustain radiation damage than probes that briefly transit the VA belts. I'd still love to see a detailed presentation on all the issues involved in protecting astronauts and hardware by a physicist who works in space exploration and research.

[@Roulden]

I once overhead two fellows at a restaurant taking about the Van Allen Belts, and how that there's no way we could get past them due to the radiation as it would make you have, and I quote, "Fingers wriggling like snakes." Despite how wrong they were, the only silver lining I could take away from it was that we are in a point in human history where the common public has knowledge about stuff like this. They were completely wrong, of course, but man, since when could a couple of regular guys in a low population town just start talking about space.

[@frasercain]

Hah, nothing's gotten people more excited than a potential conspiracy theory. I guess it's a start.

[@colinp2238]

AND DC story lines

[@camhigs7689]

A lot of people know about space but they sadly dont teach you about it in school. The education system here in Britain teaches us that the moon landings may have been faked by nasa in religious education in 2 lessons i believe. They dont teach us about the moon landings at all in 5 years of science classes, which is our greatest achievement in human history. They teach new generations in the literal education syllabus it may have been a lie.. because they lied. Otherwise we would learn they landed on the moon when they said they did. Only saying this because i feel the older generation arent aware we're literally taught in school the moon landings were faked back then.

[@dalienaustin3143]

What’s even funnier than the regular guy in a low populated town having a space conversation is an equally uneducated internet troll who’s only education is the discovery channel making smug arrogant comments about those “regular” guys

[@trophypages]

Buuut it was NASA that educated us on the belts. Or its them i first heard about the belts and that we cant get through them. To dangerous. So beside describing wriggling fingers what is wrong with what they said?

[@bjarnes.4423]

On Exoplanets, what are the requirements for plate tectonics?

[@jc2426]

There is a video of a NASA scientist stating that in the future we will have technology to get through the Van Allen Belt, so back to the future to 1969 lol. The space craft today would require so much shielding and be so heavy that we would not have the rocket technology to reach the required escape velocity for such a payload. This is after 53 years of development since the first moon landing.

[@TheWokeFlatEarthTruth]

He was referring to the challenges facing the Orion spacecraft and the electronics of its navigation and guidance systems in particular not to what happened in the previous Apollo Missions. Please get your facts straight. Take care.

[@MrKago1]

So could the push back on these belts be partly responsible for the increase cancer rates? I know cancer is multifaceted, chemical pollutants, abnormal hormone usage, better diagnosis ect, but this doesnt sound like a good thing to me. The sun is the bringer of life, well as much as a giant deathball of continuous fusion detonation can be. But would putzing with these belts even be ethical, from a world health standpoint?

[@frasercain]

That's interesting, and the timing does coincide with when the ULF emissions began. I guess these upcoming experiments will tell us more.

[@truckcaptainstumpy1978]

Necroticus - whereas it can be a contributing factor (and we won't know much about that till the experiments tell us more, as Fraser put in his post) Cancer is a very complex problem. there are a lot of different types of cancer and far too many exacerbating conditions to list. Plus, there are differences in people (genetic predisposition, etc). even if there is a correlation in the spike in cancer with the radio waves or pushback, it could just be an anomalous coincidence, so the correlation doesn't necessarily mean causation. the sheer complexity of the problem of cancer is one major reason why there isn't a cure... much like the reason why there isn't a cure for the flu. way, way, way too many influences (pun intended).

[@colinp2238]

Could it be because at the same time the doctors could identify cancer better due to the improvment of medical science?

[@Strideo1]

The American Standard Toilet Company vs The Van Allen Belt! It's a spectacle you can't ignore! It's a movie you didn't expect! "Sir! The P220-5 urinal had no effect on the Van Allen Belt!" "Then launch the T-45 King Commode!" The American Standard Toilet Company vs The Van Allen Belt!!! Coming to a theater near you!!

[@sleepinggiant4145]

Can one of these channels please show us this trajectory that goes beneath and over the Van Allen Belts to avoid the radiation? It is a Donut, so that could only mean leaving and entering past the Van Allen belts via the North and South poles right???

[@oliviapendergast1]

I would like to know this too... Im not sure what it means when he says we went "below" the Van allen belt....AS far as I can see you would still have to cross it.

[@doblefeo7014]

Big Fan! If you had the chance to witness an event or travel in any area in the universe where would it be and why?

[@muzzer3726]

The Van Allen belt was created to prevent us from going into deep space.

[@erictobias7]

Thank you,the only comment that makes sense on this thread.the bombing of our skies in the early 1960s injected the atmosphere with deadly radiation that is still there to this day....the man made van allen belts

[@d.samuels6673]

Not trying to insult anyone, but geeezus christ, reading skeptics talk about the Van Allen Belts is like this: "If too much exposure to the Sun causes skin cancer, then how does everyone on Earth not have skin cancer. I just doesn't make sense, someone is lying".....Oh my gawd people, understanding this isn't rocket-science....pun intended. *Sidenote....Great live-cast of the 2 hour Lunar Eclipse the other day. It was very informative, and surprisingly entertaining. "If you're watching us on YT, and have a clear sky outside, GET OFF THE INTERNET AND GO WATCH THE SKY"....hahaha, I laffed every time.

[@corwyn2]

my question is how will pushing the van allen belts back affect the amount of radiation that reaches earth? if vlf pushes the belts back, why don't we just put a vlf generator on ships that we send out? perhaps there is something I'm not understanding

[@frasercain]

We don't really know what will happen, that's why people need to do more tests. But it would be interesting if we could punch a hole in it briefly to get our spacecraft out.

[@corwyn2]

Fraser Cain I really appreciate your response, it was a pleasant surprise. to answer your last question, yes I would risk death for the chance to go to mars

[@ABhaYThaKUR_abs]

Very Nice Explanation Sir....thank you very much

[@frasercain]

Thanks a lot, I'm glad you enjoyed it.

[@spoicydeemer985]

"people didnt have the technology to go to the moon back then" "people had the technology to somehow make a video so realistic to the point where people are still trying to find proof of imperfections in the cgi to this day"

[@Eddgarur]

I agree, Kubrick was a master filmmaker!

[@BayBaller]

So we didn't go to the moon? Lol

[@frasercain]

We did, and this video shows that the Van Allen belts aren't the killer shield Moon hoaxers think it is.

[@sergior8667]

We say that it is the firmament on this dome preventing us from leaving. Yes we claim that God placed us on this Flat Earth and put the belts to seperate us from heaven and keep Satan down here.

[@valeskainfinite4815]

@@19Bob57 think of that all by yourself?

[@theonewiththeeyeoftruth884]

Valeska Grim spams that exact text everywhere.

[@istvansipos9940]

not too many answers to your question, so here's 1 from me: yesssss! Van Allen belts, radiation, a dangerous rocket, all kinds of space related dangers... still, I would sign up in a heart beat for a Moon mission. I would have done it in the good ol' days, as we knew almost nothing about these risks. Now, I would do it 'cause there are some Apollo veterans still kickin'. So that radiation dose is easily survivable by decades. And I would say something in Hungarian after touch down, so that learning my famous quote would be a challenge for almost every1 :- )

[@frasercain]

I agree, as long as it's a short flight, it's not that bad. Once you're spending years out in space, it's a problem.

[@Kwodlibet]

Fraser, where planets and magnetic fields are concerned - is it possible, or even though of to try to detect magnetic fields around extrasolar planets? I know that with favourable alignments we could detect and analyse a planet's atmosphere as it is occulting its host star, how about a method to detect distant magnetic fields?

[@scottr1921]

DIdn't NASA go the moon? I forgot that was fake!

[@frasercain]

They did go to the Moon, and now they're planning to go back.

[@SkepticMind1939]

@@frasercain Yes and Chesus Christ will come again too.

[@grahambunton377]

The fact that this video is made by NASA says it all. They have taken over 50 years to come up with a story to explain how they managed to fly through these belts. Now explain converging shadows on the moon, sound in a vacuum, the lunar buggy batteries working in ultra high and ultra low temperatures, no blast crater under the module, wind blowing the flag, etc. then I might begin to believe you went to the moon.

[@Jan_Strzelecki]

_They have taken over 50 years to come up with a story to explain how they managed to fly through these belts._ No, we've known how _Apollo_ did it straight from the beginning. _Now explain converging shadows on the moon_ Perspective. _sound in a vacuum_ Sound waves can travel through solid materials. _the lunar buggy batteries working in ultra high and ultra low temperatures_ The Lunar Rover batteries were never exposed to the maximums of temperatures possible on the Moon. _no blast crater under the module_ There _shouldn't_ be any crater under the Lunar Module. And it's not just NASA saying so - math says so: the pressure exerted by LMs exhaust wasn't high enough to make a crater. _wind blowing the flag_ It's not blowing in the wind - it's wobbling around after being handled by the astronaut, and because there's no air, it wobbles longer than it would on Earth. There. Do you believe we went to the Moon now? :)

[@theonewiththeeyeoftruth884]

Graham Hey, explain these converging shadows: goo.gl/images/ppHBda And these: goo.gl/images/L8uDEr And these converging railway rails: goo.gl/images/QLSnbG I guess railroads are fake with their converging rails.

[@Jan_Strzelecki]

@@theonewiththeeyeoftruth884 Clearly, real life is CGI! ;)

[@darenrigby7009]

Myth busters moved a flag in a zero atmosphere chamber and it just kept going for ages

[@carschmn]

Zapping our shields with radio waves seems like a terrible idea.

[@frasercain]

Oh, probably. :-) But we've already been doing it for a few decades, so we know it's not catastrophic, and maybe we'll figure out a new technique to protect ourselves from space radiation.

[@davidshafer1872]

QUESTION. In an episode of Kurzgesagt they talked about black holes and hawking radiation. Do we know that this is happening, if so how do we know?

[@frasercain]

We don't know for certain, we just know that it's been theorized to be happening.

[@muskyelondragon]

Good show Fraser.

[@frasercain]

Thanks a lot!

[@jamespacker1001]

Trump should build wall around it and make SPACE pay for it

[@victoryutube4329]

Can you suggest a video visually showing. How do we launch rockets “just under the van Allen belts” when we need to get through them? I’m following your ‘donut’ concept of the belts shape around earth. How do we go under the donut? When we need to go through the donut. Did we start launch at the equater and exit at the poles? Need clarification

[@frasercain]

Sure, here's a rendering of the belts from NASA. Keep in mind that the Moon isn't perfectly aligned along the Earth's equator, so you have to either go up or down a bit to reach it. science.nasa.gov/biological-physical/news-media/van-allen-belts

[@eventcone]

What makes you say "we need to get through them"? We may need to pass through the outer (less dense) parts of the outer belt, but certainly not through their centres (most dense) parts IF we time our missions to the Moon appropriately. This is because the Moon orbits the Earth in a plane that is angled relative to the plane of the Earth's geomagnetic equator (which is where the belts are densest). Twice in its orbit the Moon will pass through the geomagnetic plane. So if a mission is timed for when the Moon is furthest from the geomagnetic plane, the spacecraft trajectory is away from the densest parts of the belts, resulting in it avoiding the inner belt almost entirely and only passing through the outer fringes of the outer belt. As I understand it, not every mission was planned this way (there were competing planning requirements for each mission). I think it was Apollo 14 that passed through denser regions than any other mission and as a result the Apollo 14 astronauts got the highest average radiation doses (yet still small enough to present no serious threat to their health).

[@JoshKaufmanstuff]

No links to the "play list" in the description?

[@frasercain]

I just added a link to it for you.

[@JoshKaufmanstuff]

@@frasercain great, thanks!