What Caleb Williams' Struggles Really Mean, Bears Record Prediction & More - Bears Talk #76

[@drtruth4282]

I know this is Adam's show, but I need to take a minute to comment on Greg Braggs. I watch every show of CHGO [Bears] and I'm really proud of him. He was like an NFL draft pick, a year ago, who was raw with high potential. He plays in the lane of a meatball, but he's much smarter than that label implies. I hope he knows that. Anyway, I've seen a ridiculous amount of NFL [mostly Bears centered] media coverage in the last 18 months and honestly, his growth, as a sports journalist, is outstanding! At first, he was a ball of emotional energy, and as fans, we love to see that passion! But that seemed to be the limit of his Bears input. Now, that is not the case, at all. He has picked up interviewing skills, foresight about what journalists can get away [from a personal stand point], foresight about what can be said about players/coaches without repercussions. A lot of that has to do with patience and I know that's not his thing. Either way, his professionalism/maturity is coming across and he learned that the hard way. Braggs, now offers insights about players, NFL strategies, coaches, & NFL processes that just wasn't there a year ago. To me, that's so refreshing! Everyone loves a ridiculously passionate fan, but that appeal doesn't last, because most adults eventually want adult takes about things we love [in this case, the Bears]. College is fun, frats are fun, but almost all of us mature past that mentality and we don't want crazy/meatball fan 100% of the time. Thank you, Greg Braggs, for all of your hard work! That killer mentality you showed, landing Rich Eisen on CHGO at the combine, was epic! You can down play that, but I'm sorry, nobody else even tried. You stepped up and nailed it! Like I said, 2024 is your year! Purdue made it to the NCAA championship, Hester was voted into the Hall of Fame [your favorite player], you got your boy, Odunze in the draft, you're going to London in the fall, and I saw you LIFT A GROWN MAN from the ground to the stage at Joe's after the Bears drafted Rome Odunze!!! Keep growing, because the sky is the limit for your career, my friend. I honestly think you'll win a journalism award in the future. Be proud of yourself because you deserve all the great things coming your way!

[@TheSpectrumAssassin]

Didn’t read all that but SHAHT aht braggs

[@tobyhill5784]

Little long winded but well deserved I've watched his growth since Barroom days with Aldo before Phil & Shayne left that place and you're absolutely correct his growth and passion is super refreshing to witness not to mention he comes from a blue collar background ( brick Mason) love it well said 🐻⏬!!

[@BraggsInTheStands]

This means a ton. I tend to only pay attention to my critics but this is one of if not the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me. Especially from someone that isn't close to me and didn't have to go out of their way or into that much detail to say it. To be honest, I've been in a bad rut for a few weeks now and this is great a reminder of how important it is to keep focusing on the positives. Thank you again. See you in a chat soon. Enjoy the holiday weekend.

[@drtruth4282]

@@BraggsInTheStands You're very welcome. Please remember, that a critique of you, can be 100% accurate, but it NEVER DEFINES you, as a person!

[@DJRyanWatts]

That was like a text from an angry ex. Skim

[@CoolKennedy]

Caleb without the receiver depth was Justin’s life on the Bears. #getreal

[@busyrand]

Shout to the guest host for calling the White Sox stadium Comiskey Park... I've been away for over a decade and don't know what it's called, but it was Comiskey when I grew up...

[@michaelkawell3300]

Adam I'm a die hard bears fan for 47 years and yes I'm in Chicago my whole life .We got some weird fans.Since fields was traded we our going to get I told you so about Caleb.People need to understand he's going against the top defense of the league and that's a great thing for Williams.Williams is going to be a star by mid season and there's going to be alot of the field bandwagoners coming aboard.Bear down I got us going 11-6 and I do believe getting Houston early might be a good thing if they get that win then 12-5 and the 1 seed everyone comes thru chicago

[@anthonychounard5637]

Just stop it. Vegas only has us winning 8 games. And let me guess you probably liked Rex Grossman too huh?

[@JosephONeill-wo1yp]

You don't know what the hell you're talking about?You act like no one else in iur division got better.2 other teams went to the playoffs and got wins.You guys act like because you got 2 1st round picks.You're gonna win the division you're delusional.

[@Mrmouse506]

A STAR by mid season. Dude. You’re 47 and a lifelong Bears fan. Have you not learned anything about pro football in them 47 years? History will tell you differently. In a season or two maybe then we can start talking about star potential. Definitely not mid season. You need to relax

[@jamesnelson8469]

Bagent gonna outperform him in training camp and pre season. You heard it here first.

[@ChewsCarefully]

I'm guessing you never saw kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3uyYoOpqtV5lbc. Fields is _clearly_ a more consistent, accurate passer. & the "Great Passes" Caleb is known for? All under-thrown even though he wasn't under any pressure to do so, all landing for completions only because the defense completely gave up on the plays. You all *watched your HC & GM set Fields up to fail* & pretended that you didn't see. it. Remember when Mac Jones was caught seeking help outside the Pats? Imagine if Bellichick had responded by Saying Nothing. We'd *all **_know_* he was on the outs. Well? Fields called out his coaches publicly, twice. & his own GM who should have cared because he could have traded the #1 pick for WAY MORE than a 4th-rounder said nothing. Nor did the HC whose job should have been on the line for this say anything. They *wanted Fields gone* & made it obvious. Enjoy your 4th-rounder & the less accurate Justin Fields Lite who also can't run as well.

[@Beardown451]

Always a good episode with braggs on the show. The offense got the best of the D on Monday and the last day it was the other way around. U want it to be balanced. It’s Caleb’s what 4-5th day? Let’s jus take a breathe here and let him learn. I’m sure mahomes and burrow had their struggles early. The world is not ending

[@myles26]

Braggs getting lean💪🏾💪🏾I almost didn't recognize him

[@JJ-zr6fu]

Caleb is going against one of the top secondary’s in the league he’s going to have trouble but better to have it in practice than the game. Also he’s got some great WRs to fall back on.

[@joelevy197]

I was at that first weekend when Jay got here. 1st and only training camp I went to.

[@davidbutcher2548]

hi adam love that your representing arsenal fc in the background,this is my local team witch i love and have supported since i was a child,i have also supported the bears since 1984 and have been to soldier field a few times and other citys in the us to watch them,including all the london games.these are very exciting times ahead,the defence has been together for a wile so we should expect them to be better than the new offence who are learning a new play book no need to worry they will be on point by week 1,

[@titogodina9430]

I’m going to Chicago vs Az

[@StanNgan]

They are who we thought they were, and we let them off the hook. If you want to crown.... Let's go Bears!!! Bear down!!!

[@Keithjhall]

I would be MORE alarmed if the offense had their way against our defense! O was missing Keenan Allen and Odunze- TWO of our top Three receivers. We should expect the D to dominate early against a rookie QB and a new offensive scheme. Pump the breaks people. Our O is going to be just fine

[@JJ-zr6fu]

I’m honestly tired of bears fans the fields cult is the dumbest thing I’ve seen and now worrying about the first few practices when he’s atleast had a few good ones

[@Keithjhall]

@@JJ-zr6fu Seriously... Nobody should expect a rookie to dominate a top 3 defense in the first couple of OTA practices. LMAO

[@Realtalksports.]

What's going to be very important is that he's got two second round picks to add at the trading deadline to whatever he needs to add to which I'm assuming that would be edge

[@Game-kp1zk]

The Chicago media is the reason we don’t have a great qb. Justin would have been great with all the tools bears have given Caleb the fans wanted Justin but the media didn’t

[@JJ-zr6fu]

Ask the Steelers and the rest of the league if they think he’s a rising star. They think he’s a kick returner

[@Mrmouse506]

what you’re saying is our front office is inept?

[@jamesnelson8469]

Uhhh the media absolutely worshipped fields. What are you talking about?

[@Mandy_39]

Oh yeah cuz it has nothing to do with the QBs sucking huh? I bet you said the same with Mitch as well 😂 You think it was the media's fault that Justin had a super slow drop back, bad sloppy footwork, horrible mechanics that's why his accuracy was trash? Or maybe it's the media's fault he had no anticipation, he was slow reading defenses, definitely their fault he had NO pocket presence at all smh... C'mon dude, Justin wasn't just gonna be great cuz they added WRs and 1 OL. He was the same QB from year 1 to year 3. The team got much better year 3 compared to year 2 but Justin stayed the same, that's why they moved on! STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR HIM...........

[@jrhayes6901]

I heard Tyson Bagent had a great practice..... Accept greatness

[@grindn10101]

4 nfl games under his belt an Goin against that D everyday in practice for a year. Hold your horses bucko

[@jamesnelson8469]

Facts. He gonna outshine Caleb in preseason. Last year he had like zero reps in preseason being fourth string and still excelled. This year he will get attention and reps being qb2 off the bat. He will cause even more controversy than he did last year.

[@BrandonBias-xj7ir]

3-6 TD/INT as starter

[@jamesnelson8469]

@@BrandonBias-xj7ir 3-5 Fields didn’t throw a touchdown until October when he was a rookie and he wasn’t getting fourth string reps and fresh from d2

[@doug596]

Those weren't all on Bagent, even Flues said so,get over yourself, Bagent deserves a chance to start.

[@phillipjones4983]

New drinking game, every time braggs say "at the end of the day" take a shot... I dare you lol

[@lift_4_pancakes339]

At the end of the day you would be shit faced

[@yahboyboogie]

I know it’s just one practice, but it’s 7 on 7 … you can still be excited for the season but also be disappointed hearing this. The CHGO crew said they thought they were being punked from how bad the practice was …

[@kylemahnesmith3601]

Bears had best defense down the stretch Caleb isn’t superhuman. Things will be fine this means nothing but drama and clickbait.

[@yahboyboogie]

@@kylemahnesmith3601 did you play football ? In 7 on 7 the football isn’t supposed to touch the ground. 😂

[@rab5567]

​@@yahboyboogieDid you play football? Obviously not, unless your secondary is complete garbage, there are plenty of passes that hit the ground! 😂

[@yahboyboogie]

@@rab5567 I played football here in texas all through H.S. and I played at blinn jr. college so I promise you the offense should own the defense on 7 on 7 😂

[@yahboyboogie]

@@rab5567 sorry your QB was trash 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@darkcity2004]

He holds the ball more than Justin

[@ashitaka.kodama]

😭

[@rhdtv2002]

Does he? I’m not sure we have seen him in a game as a Pro.

[@alaneiler2361]

When he does he is already on his fourth progression. I think Fields is still trying to figure out what a progression is😂😂😂😂

[@Mandy_39]

Oh yeah cuz we seen him start so many games in the NFL smh....

[@JohnBaranowsky]

Where did you get the hat?

[@sarahpoisel6734]

How many 7 on 7 drills before the staff implements “no” INT’s of CW passes 😂😂😂

[@anthonychounard5637]

That is funny

[@jamesnelson8469]

Bro they already did. I guarantee you the defense gave him the business but stopped short of intercepting him. It’s smart and I don’t blame them.

[@Squeekyleaks]

Count me in on the "I told you so." The very first hint that this coaching group was sniffing around that qb it was a "nope" from me. I know I'm in the minority, but I was not impressed with his college play. Hope I'm wrong. Now we get to go through ANOTHER few years of rookie growing pains. WHEN WILL THE ROOKIE CIRCLE OF HELL END????

[@maximus4everjay119]

Little boy shut the hell up and go to your room!!

[@davidpaschal6963]

Research the draft status of every 2024 USC NFL dfraftee. Then, look at the tape again.

[@JJ-zr6fu]

lol I bet you love daniels a one read and run qb

[@jamesnelson8469]

I got a feeling Bagent will outshine him in pre season.

[@zackrodriguez2710]

“I told you so” over OTA’s? Holy overreaction lmao. Relax.

[@joeanderson444]

Can we calm down on the 7-on-7 talk! Most know that 7-on-7 doesn't allow for honest defenses as the offense never runs the ball, nor do they do RPO's and Play-Action passes! Keeping defenses honest by misdirection on certain plays is what allows certain routes to get open. When a secondary knows every snap is a pass, nobody is ever out of alignment making spaces between zones very small and even man to man coverage much easier! Playing 11 on 11 with a full playbook and a good chess game and I'll we will see how it goes. Before I judge, I want to make sure all 11 starters are on the field as well! Let's face it, the defense has been waiting for this day longer than the offense and they made sure they were all on the same page due to all the hype that has been made. Without that hype, I guarantee this defense wouldn't have prepared as well for an OTA practice!

[@JJ-zr6fu]

Fields cultist rather watch a runningback play qb

[@scoesixtray2457]

The Bears didn't need to draft a Quarterback, but did. The Bears needed to trade the #1 overall pick for a haul to make themselves injury proof and perennial Super Bowl contenders but didn't. Caleb will discover that every NFL defense is even better than Notre Dame's defense. Ryan Poles is on the clock

[@dannyevilcat]

Stop embarassing yourself

[@scoesixtray2457]

@@dannyevilcat Stop embarrassing your family & yourself

[@dannyevilcat]

@@scoesixtray2457 I'm not the one with bad takes.

[@scoesixtray2457]

@@dannyevilcat You most certainly are "the one with the bad takes" & repeating bull*** Chicago MAGA sports media narratives. Stop embarrassing your family & go sit in a corner.

[@Mrmouse506]

@@dannyevilcatnot a bad take at all. before the draft that’s what I was saying. i’m also not a bears fan. my team actually wins games and has good QB play. now, you could have something in this QB, I’m not saying you don’t, but you also had something and could’ve had a lot more to go with it. You clearly were not a fan of old QB. and that’s your personal choice and saying it’s a bad take, is a bad take on your part.

[@rajneeshomar1]

Dude better get it together by week 1.

[@alexamerling79]

Growing pains are going to happen. We can't overreact to an OTA

[@anthonychounard5637]

How is anyone overreacting when Tyson Bagent had a better OTA'S than Caleb?

[@anthonychounard5637]

He's Mahomes 2.0 remember?

[@sumyungchong]

​@@anthonychounard5637that's why I'm not worried about Caleb being a bust or not. Bagent is a lot better than people give him credit for. The kid went from D2 to starting in the NFL and held his own. Quick sharp decisions. Granted he had an awful final game. I think he'd do great with this offense if Caleb can't get it together.

[@stevebracher6998]

Braggs is like one of us- but sobered up and made good He is turning into quite the "pro" media dude. Without being an ass.

[@Realtalksports.]

The bears won 3-14 and the next year they approved 4 games 7-10 so they approve another four games they will finish 11-6 MIGHT BE 12 AND 5 DEPENDING ON THAT GREEN BAY GAME WEEK 18

[@sumyungchong]

He may seem like hes better, but we wont know until he plays a season or 2. Plus its all good we got secret Bagent man

[@chrislaughlin6598]

It means chicago sports media can't not complain about bears qb. Day 5 he a bust . 3 to 5 yr the chicago media runs Caleb out of town

[@anthonychounard5637]

Exactly

[@anthonychounard5637]

Breaking the cycle my ass

[@nicholasvicens2066]

I sense Justin fields fans

[@sevinbamuels6560]

@@nicholasvicens2066It has nothing to do with JF. They’re correct! All big markets teams do this. Chicago, NY, it’s how they sell content! CW had a “ bad” OTA and look how they’re talkings. If he’s not a Top 5 pick, he’ll be ran out of town. Your obsession with JF is showing!

[@alaneiler2361]

@@sevinbamuels6560he’s a number one pick. Fields was a crap show of a QB/RB…. Hello will be fine

[@derralupton5388]

The last time we let the Packers in, when we clinched, and the Packers knocked us OUT!!

[@reyyyanez806]

One concern is they say he holding the ball a long time! Let's hope this is not true

[@ashitaka.kodama]

That's been a known aspect of his play since he's played in college. It is a concern and it's true. He's a rookie. Rookies aren't perfect. It's almost like Caleb is new to the NFL and he needs to learn to play on the NFL level or something.

[@anthonychounard5637]

If you look at stats Justin held on to the ball longer than any qb in the league last year at 3.18 seconds. Caleb was at 3.23 in college last year. So he'd lead the league in time holding on to the ball if he continues down the same path.

[@ashitaka.kodama]

@anthonychounard5637 last year Caleb was required to play hero ball (holding the ball longer) because he was carrying his offense. stats without context are meaningless.

[@jamesnelson8469]

Caleb had the longest throw time of any draftable college qb in the last decade. Justin was fourth.

[@CoolKennedy]

The forced acceptance of the early departure of Justin is SICKening. We’ll see. 😂😂😂

[@Doubleduo-s8e]

I think he’ll be great. Here’s why. 1: The bears have a new and decent offensive coordinator who can help Caleb to be a better QB in places where he struggles. 2:it’s damn rookie camp, that practice where he struggled doesn’t mean jack crap😂 3: He has better potential than fields ALREADY and Justin fields wasn’t bad he just underperformed so like I said our coordinator for our offense will help him in weak spots. You guys are idiots to think he’ll be a failure.

[@Johnn466]

This coaching staff is a FRAUD: Handing over a rookie qb to a TEs coach and a defensive coordinator was a BAD move by Poles. Last yr Waldron was DEAD LAST on 3rd down offense. 28th redzone offense. He struggles with adjustments, falls into some serious play calling ruts. Designed some good plays, but a HORRIBLE play caller. Creative formations with runs inside on early downs. Timid play calling, alot of 2nd and long runs and screens. Neither the skills or creative mind Caleb and Chicago needs. Waldron and Flus are FRAUDS!

[@ashitaka.kodama]

"Rookie QB experiences rookie growing pains in 7-on-7. Everyone panic!" If it had been reported that the defense had not completely dominated, I'd be afraid for our defense. But a rookie in 1st week of OTAs when he hasnt played a single NFL snap and he's not Patrick Mahomes? Whelp, Caleb's a bust. Who we drafting next? What's that? Caleb is here for 4 to 5 years at minimum? Maybe we shouldn't jump to ridiculous conclusions based on one practice?

[@dreate780]

Mahomes wasn't dominant in his first practices either. Remember Mahomes sat his first Year. Nobody even thought about Mahomes until he started playing in actual NFL games.

[@JJ-zr6fu]

@dreate780 actually everyone thought KC were fools for trading up for mahomes. The revisionist history on mahomes is insane they thought he was a bust

[@1848revolt]

Bwahahahahhahahaha. This is justice to the crappy bears fans that were such asses in this process. I shed not a single tear for those crappy fans if and when caleb sucks.

[@donwanderley7156]

And how many negative reports came out about Love before he figured it out?

[@1848revolt]

@@donwanderley7156 I don't give a shit what shitty bears fans say. If he fails I will laugh because they deserve it.

[@stephend3459]

rooting for a kid to fail makes you not only a garbage fan but a garbage person

[@ashitaka.kodama]

"I'm happy when other people are not happy." eww grow up. it's just a game.

[@anthonychounard5637]

I agree with you bro. He's going to be a bust.

[@FQD1911]

Much love to you Rank, but it is HELLA annoying that you are a Goober supporter. #COYS

[@Charles-ot2ez]

They are drinking the coolaid i see maybe 7 and 10 or 8 and 9 i dont ser them beating the Texans,Rams,Cardinals,Packers twice Lions Twice And 49ers 8 and 9 would be a good start for Caleb you all want to rush this mam he isnt ready like that and raise uour hands if you trusk Eberfuse i dont!

[@mattrock2794]

London isn’t that far especially on a comfortable plane

[@hammert0es]

Where's Carmie?

[@titogodina9430]

Who’s going

[@MrFrmartin]

I got row 1 dream section 22 tickets for the Bears at Washington. Jayden Daniels Vs Caleb Williams

[@anthonyslazas6413]

The lions will be 3rd in division!

[@ttaylor758]

Coming to a Stadium Near You! Justin Fields II- The Sequel!

[@DaveSwerski]

🐻⬇🥸

[@doug596]

CW has proven nothing ,yet he gets the job handed to him it's BS.

[@titogodina9430]

First

[@davidpaschal6963]

13-4. But, I am absolutely bias.

[@mountainliving456]

@michaelkawell3300 To start off, I am a staunch Packer fan, and have been since the 1950s. I have a lot of great memories of games between the past Packers and the Monsters of the Midway known as the Chicago Bears. Yes, I'm a Packer fan, but I am also a fan of our division. I was brought up with the pleasure of seeing classical battles between the Bears and the Packers and tight hard fought games at that! In which both our teams were equal to the task. Yeah, the Packers have been fortunate with quarterbacks in the past. But I do wish good fortune upon the Chicago Bears! I know that sounds crazy, but I want it the way it used to be. I'm not like A quarterback, who born in California never had respect for division opponents history or enjoyed it! Just as I have great memories of Paul Horning, Bart Starr. I also have great memories of games decided by Willie Gallimore Sid Luckman. Gale Sears, George Blanda,Dick Butkas Johnny Lujack. Richie Petibon and many others. I'm a fan of the division. I'm a football fan. I'm an NFL fan I'm not a California quarterback,who was not born into it. Who does not have respect for it? I have respect for the fan of another team. I enjoy my Packers. Just as I know Bear fans love their Bears players. I look forward to the day when the games between Chicago and Green Bay are decided in the last three minutes. In the last two minutes in the last minute. To me now that's football.! Nobody owns anybody.! Best wishes to the season!