What Christmas Teaches Us About The Human Soul

[@annettewilliams461]

Thanks!

[@simonem1418]

Merry Christmas Everyone. Thank you Myles, May our merciful Father God continue to bless you and keep you and yours in the New Year in Christ Jesus.

[@cindiloowhoo1166]

Thank You Myles! Merry Christmas to you and Mrs Myles and The Littlest Myles

[@jsimoes9424]

Just listened to Dale Ratzlaff’s book on how he left Adventism. On Utube under ‘ Adventist to Christian’ . It’s in 15 parts. Very informative.

[@stephencoe2231]

He was used by God to help deliver many from sda cult

[@JOHNVALDEZ-e8h]

the old confused RATZ-laugh ? he is on his grave now waiting for judgment upon him.for LYING AGAINST GOD'S PROPHET.

[@AighEnoughAlready]

@@stephencoe2231 You wish. More like by Satan’s minion to dupe you critics by getting you to overlook the details, like they aren’t even there.

[@kimartist]

That was awesome thank you & 📯❤🎄 Merry Christmas 🎄❤📯

[@David12101]

Merry Christmas all!

[@FlyingGentile]

I like the touch of JTB leaping, signifying that a baby in the womb is a living human being.

[@umabrijmohun6720]

I really enjoyed this teaching and Merry Christmas

[@PavelMosko]

I love the topic! As I said before, the anti-Platonism Iconoclasm of Adventism was the only topic or strategy they had that through me a curve ball and to cover the topic with a seasonal theme is just Great!

[@jenniferschutz3096]

Very helpful! Thank you Miles

[@David12101]

Great show Myles! Merry Christmas and keep speaking the truth!

[@searchingtheword]

Very nice Christmas touch on the graphics and colors! Always appreciate your content!

[@stephencoe2231]

Merry Christmas Myles and family

[@polycarpsmith1419]

Having been a student of Catholic theology for 50 years and at the same time doing much apologetic work against the Seventh Day Adventist and the writings of Ellen G. White, I believe there has never been a more vindictive and hateful contempt of Papal Authority than from the Adventists. Fittingly, they teach keeping the Jewish Sabbath and the meat distinctions of Jews, while condemning the worship of Christ upon the first day of the week. If one has ever read Ellen G. White's writings, they are completely the opposite of Christ's teachings. She has the church falling away in the first - third century and those who left the church as being saved. I doubt there has been so great of an apostacy with so much malice toward the authority of the church. In Ellen G . White's book "Desire of the Ages" chapter 19 she infers that Christ Himself is "Satan" for teaching eternal punishment. And, then she changes "Eternal punishment" to mean annihilation, while condemning the immortality of the soul. In the last desperate act of the false prophet, she refers to all those who worship Christ "upon the first day of the week" in honor of the resurrection of Christ, as "Satan worshipers". Indeed, the Adventist church is preparing the way for the ultimate and final Anti-Christ, that Christ and the apostles said would come.

[@Adrian_Mason]

Merry Christmas and thank you!

[@Summerd1257]

Merry Christmas! Great video.

[@jsimoes9424]

And Merry Christmas!

[@StevenGentry-c2v]

Love your CHANNEL ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@witoldnowak9327]

Excellent!

[@DamonNomad82]

Merry Christmas to Myles and all here! Give glory to the Lord Jesus Christ, our one hope and the reason for our celebration! Peace on earth and good will to men!

[@BoteWate]

❤❤❤ Thanks bro very impressive,you nail it.may God continue to bless your mission and work .🙏🙏🙏

[@StevenGentry-c2v]

Merry Christmas 🎁🎁🎁🎁🎁🎁🎁

[@davedrahman914]

This video was really good Myles. I had to go back and listen again. It’s a direct contradiction in their hodgepodge, and it’s so dad gum obvious. 😅 Have a great Christmas!

[@answeringadventism]

@@davedrahman914 precisely! And inconsistent with their statement on human life that many SDAs have parroted in the comments. They don’t see the conundrum but I’m glad you caught it. Merry Christmas!

[@davedrahman914]

@ Amen Sir! Turns out theology is hard hard work. You don’t get to shorthand things down and claim you’re a prophetess above criticism. That’s the definition of a cult. Getting critiqued, scrutinizing all of it. That’s theology. That’s what takes decades and centuries. Aquinas, for example, a true philosopher genius, gets to the end of his life after writing 50 some odd volumes, a prolific true genius, says, “all that I’ve written is as ash or straw.” He sees the limits of it. And rightfully, he is digested for a hundred years and even today some contend with some of his writings, and rightfully so. It’s a process. Adventists who want to be taken seriously should submit to this long process. What, EGW we can’t question her?? We can’t pull it apart? We can’t dispute her soul theory?? Huh? The church elevates Aquinas or Augustine to Doctor and Saint. But it doesn’t say anywhere that he’s a prophet. If what Aquinas or Augustine said is hog wash, then fine it’s hog wash. I wonder how the rank and file pro-lifers in the sda can tolerate such a clear chasm in their practical application of such a fundamental issues as the human soul. All the best Myles! (Sorry for the rant)

[@gearydowdy]

zec. 12:1 enough said. thank you brother!

[@davedrahman914]

This was a very tidy video. Good work. It’s what happens when the theology is a mess and a “hodgepodge” as you’ve said many times with sda.

[@JBP4500]

Great video, great analysis. Are there any reports to support that SDA clinics perform ab*rtions ? I havent found anything on this yet.

[@answeringadventism]

@@JBP4500 not on specific numbers, but the fact that they perform them is easily proven by examining their “family planning” and “women’s care” department. To be fair, this has slowed down in more recent years. I don’t know the inter-workings on all of that, but my guess is it’s correlation to their most recent statement in the subject put out by the GC. The hospitals aren’t technically “owned” by the SDA corporation which owns nothing but houses it all under LLCs. They are simply affiliated with the organization. But my guess is the statement put out by the GC in 2019 influenced the slowing down. However, my point here was that the idea of a person becoming a living soul post-birth is what has been used to justify ab*rtion among many seventh day Adventists, including those in the health industry.

[@AighEnoughAlready]

Of course we believe the soul is rational. We just differ in being vs having a soul.

[@JamieElison]

So Jesus did not have a soul is what you're saying and it did not depart from him at the cross. You're saying he's not God!

[@jimbob1644]

So you just said you don't exist! In Jesus is not God according to what you preach. And Matthew 10:28 does not happen! Because God is a liar!? According to what you preach!

[@stephencoe2231]

We are body mind/soul and spirit

[@AighEnoughAlready]

@@stephencoe2231 Almost. We’re a soul made up of a body, a mind, and a breath. As Moses made clear, a soul is simply a living, sentient being.

[@AighEnoughAlready]

@@JamieElison Yup. That’s what I’m saying, the former, not the latter. Now, you gonna back up your claims, or just make flat, empty assertions?

[@hotwax9376]

I've gotta admit, this video disappointed me. Not because I still agree with the SDA doctrine on the soul (in fact, I've come to the conclusion that it's not only false but demonic), but because it left me with more questions than answers. Here are the issues I specifically have: 1. John the Baptist leaping for joy in utero doesn't necessarily prove that souls exist before birth because God can make supernatural things happen. Indeed, the virgin birth of Christ itself is one such example of this. 2. If Jesus' divine and human nature weren't divided, then wouldn't this require His deity to have died with His body (which is impossible)? 3. (This is one that applies to both the video and the SDA doctrine) Genesis 2 isn't describing how all humans are created, only the creation of Adam and Eve. Adam was formed from the ground and Eve was formed from Adam, but all other humans are formed through reproduction. 4. As I understand, the belief in an immortal soul didn't exist in Judaism until much later on, though I don't know if it came from Aristotle or predated him. I suppose you could invoke progressive revelation of Scripture, which will drive SDAs insane because Adventism rejects that as well. (Indeed, I'm not clear on the biblical basis for it myself). 5. (This is a more general inquiry) How would you respond to the Adventist claim that the belief in an immortal/immaterial soul leads to occult spiritualism and that we know it isn't true because ghosts don't exist? I know this is a strawman, but I was beaten over the head with it for so long that it's hard to dislodge even now. I think a much stronger case for how Christmas refutes the SDA soul doctrine is that if humans are purely physical beings with no spiritual element, then being created in God's image has to mean a physical image, which would mean that God is a physical being. And if God is a physical being, then there is nothing unique about the incarnation of Christ at all. John 1: 14 says that "the Word became flesh," which would imply that the Word was not flesh before Jesus incarnated. And at the very beginning of the chapter, it says that "the Word was God." Even worse is how the belief that the image of God is physical can serve as a justification for racism and ethnocentrism, as it doesn't take a huge leap of logic to suggest that if humans bear a physical image of God, then certain races or ethnicities bear that image more closely than others. Merry Christmas and Happy 2025 to you and your whole family, Myles (including your dad). May God bless all of you, and I hope to join you here on YT in helping blow the lid off of this cult in the New Year!

[@answeringadventism]

It definitely wasn’t an exhaustive presentation nor was it aimed to be. 1. The point is that John the Baptist was clearly a “living soul” in the womb, not upon being born. Yet they claim that a “living soul” becomes such at the point of birth and being a distinct, separate unit from the mother. Of course God can perform miracles, faith is a miracle and much more so that a fetus responded to the gospel. But God didnt perform a miracle to a non-living being in Elizabeth’s womb. John the Baptist was clearly a “living soul” in the womb. I’m using the phrase the fundamental beliefs book does. They interchangeably use living being and living soul. 2. Only if you assume the SDA idea of human nature. Not if Jesus had a rational soul. His humanity and divinity remained united, even in death, because mans being is more than just the physical body. Christs physical body is what died. 3. I’m aware. But you missed how they APPLIED Genesis 2:7 in the context of all humans. They claim that, LIKE Adam, humans become “living souls” at the point of birth as a separate unit from the mother, taking their first breath-just like Adam did. He wasn’t a “living soul” until the breath of life entered the nostrils. 4. Immortality is a different discussion than what was in focus here. It was only mentioned in passing as the focus was on the actual point at which a human BECOMES a living soul. The word “immortality” in classical Christian theology doesn’t carry with it the same connotations that Adventists often import into it. The argument presented here isn’t what I would present apologetically for the souls immortality. Merry Christmas!

[@AighEnoughAlready]

So Moses’ definition of the soul was demon-inspired. Got it. You wish.

[@kimartist]

​@@AighEnoughAlready What is Moses' definition of the soul?

[@AighEnoughAlready]

@@kimartist Aigh. Really? Seriously? As if you don’t know? As if you can’t read it yourself, or have it read to you, and see the three elements that make up a soul, two implied, one stated? As if you can’t also see that nothing is said, suggested, or implied, that there’s not the slightest hint, about when life begins for the rest of us, even for Eve, only for Adam. As if you all don’t also know very well that the statements in that fundamental beliefs book weren’t voted on by the global church’s representatives. As if that doesn’t show Myles’ and the op’s level of intellectual honesty. As if you can’t also see that if platonic dualism is true, God (Christ) goofed when creating a tree of perpetual life both in Eden and Heaven, when expelling the pair from Eden, and when giving the reason for it, changed His mind about how to make us immortal, or doesn’t know the future, and that there’s no other option. Like I said, you folks’ fatal flaw is your neglect of or willful blindness to these crucial details.

[@AighEnoughAlready]

Aigh. No, bro. We know what a mind is, and what it’s not, breath joined to a body. We also know what the Bible shows a soul is, the union of body, brain/mind/personality, breath, and life.

[@stephencoe2231]

Our soul is our mind will and emotions Some times soul was used interchangeable but that helps in confusion I think. The spirit is what is eternal and that is what is regenerated at the time of salvation

[@AighEnoughAlready]

@ Flat assertions prove nothing. Besides, Moses said otherwise in Genesis. Put up or clam up. Prove it or mute it. While you’re at it, explain why you make Christ out to be confused or to not have gotten the memo when He expelled the pair from Eden, as if He did it for nothing.

[@kimartist]

​@@AighEnoughAlready What is Moses' definition of the soul?

[@AighEnoughAlready]

So Christ was confused or didn’t get the memo when He kicked the pair out of Eden, just did it for nothing. Moses too, when he defined his word for soul. Got it.

[@kimartist]

What is Moses' definition of the soul?

[@AighEnoughAlready]

News flash: Moses’ definition of the soul says nothing about when life starts, some unvoted on book statement notwithstanding.

[@kimartist]

What is Moses' definition of the soul?

[@AighEnoughAlready]

Just another shameless, intentional, and unfortunate use of low-hanging fruit to malign our biblical beliefs than a careful, honest review of our globally voted on positions and statements.

[@lolognokominaaboatchi5297]

25 December,Christmas is the birthday of the Sun God. Jesus Christ spent more than 30 years on earth show when did he celebrate his birthday.When did his disciples or the early Christians celebrating Jesus birthday? It's Satan's deceptions, because Jesus Christ is God , not the first time he came into existence.He said "I am alpha and Omega"God used Mary to just fulfill the plan of redemption.You you can celebrate your birthday because you never existed before coming on earth.And second we should keep God's ten commandments,we should not reject any even the fourth commandment, the holy Lord's day seventh day Saturday Sabbath. May God open your understanding before it's too late

[@jessyjiheng2154]

This son and father of confusion, I have left the group but still showing up.

[@kimartist]

Suns do not have birthdays & neither do non-existent sun gods... but YOU are actually a sun & earth & all the planets worshipper, since Roy Gane said SDAs keep the Sabbath to celebrate creation's birthday.

[@kimartist]

"On the seventh day [God] stopped to celebrate what could be regarded as the 'BIRTHDAY' OF THE WORLD." "The SABBATH is not simply the immovable 'BIRTHDAY OF THE WORLD'; it recognizes the dependence of the world, and more particularly the human beings who have dominion over the world, on God who created the world." ~ Roy Gane, Sabbath and the New Covenant

[@kimartist]

I would also note that nowhere in his paper did Roy Gane explain why the world needs to have its "birthday" "celebrated" weekly/52 times a year, rather than annually as would be expected of something that is only "born" once.

[@PrimaScripturaSemper]

😂😂😂....never a dull moment with this guy....😂😂...you mixing up creation an procreation.....😂....a whole bunch of jiber jaber foolishness......as I told you before you missing verse from your Bible or you keep writing in some. Adam's creation came by God's design and his breathe of life, Jesus incarnation came by the over shadow of the power of Holy Spirit......John the Baptist came by procreation........stop talking foolishness 😂😂😂😂

[@answeringadventism]

@@PrimaScripturaSemper yet you didn’t actually engage with the point in focus nor refute it. I doubt you can even reiterate the proposition. But yeah, totally foolish says the person that wrote out literal “jiber jaber” lol

[@lolognokominaaboatchi5297]

I love SDA because they follow God rather than traditions.I can see how Satan has given you a big mission, because his time is short.SDA is the remnant church of Christ and the bible is the only source of belief, and we don't accept Satan and the beast's deceptions (Sola scriptura.)

[@FraeDen]

2. God considers the unborn child as human life. Prenatal life is precious in God’s sight, and the Bible describes God’s knowledge of people before they were conceived. “Your eyes saw my substance, being yet unformed. And in Your book they all were written, the days fashioned for me, when as yet there were none of them” (Psalm 139:16). In certain cases, God directly guided prenatal life. Samson was to “be a Nazirite to God from the womb” (Judges 13:5). The servant of God is “called from the womb” (Isaiah 49:1, 5). Jeremiah was already chosen as a prophet before his birth (Jeremiah 1:5), as was Paul (Galatians 1:15), and John the Baptist was to “be filled with the Holy Spirit, even from his mother’s womb” (Luke 1:15). Of Jesus the angel Gabriel explained to Mary: “therefore the child to be born will be called holy-the Son of God” (Luke 1:35). In His Incarnation Jesus Himself experienced the human prenatal period and was recognized as the Messiah and Son of God soon after His conception (Luke 1:40-45). The Bible already attributes to the unborn child joy (Luke 1:44) and even rivalry (Genesis 25:21-23). Those not-yet-born have a firm place with God (Job 10:8-12; 31:13-15). Biblical law shows a strong regard for protecting human life and considers harm to or the loss of a baby or mother as a result of a violent act a serious issue (Exodus 21:22-23). This statement was voted by the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists Executive Committee at the Annual Council Session in Silver Spring, Maryland on October 16, 2019.

[@stephencoe2231]

Hahaha 1999 is when the chosen frozen voted. LHM

[@answeringadventism]

We’re aware. All you highlighted is the contradiction in belief and application. You need to watch again and deal with what was presented, not just present a contradictory claim/statement. “As we have already mentioned, in the Old Testament “soul” is a translation of the Hebrew nephesh. In Genesis 2:7 it denotes humans as a living being after the breath of life entered into a physical body formed from the elements of the earth. Similarly, a new soul comes into existence whenever a child is born, each “soul” being a new unit of life uniquely different and separate from other similar units.”-Seventh-day Adventists Believe, pg. 94 A new soul comes into existence when?!… When the child is BORN. The same chapter defining soul as “living being” or “living soul.” Which would mean that what’s in the womb isn’t a living being. So thank you for highlighting the contradictory nature of SDA theology and teaching and further proving the overall point. We appreciate you! 😘

[@AighEnoughAlready]

@@answeringadventism Right back atcha. We appreciate your frequent displays of shameless intellectual dishonesty and hypocrisy. It makes our job easy. They claim??? Contradictory nature??? Aigh. My eye. As if one author’s unvoted-on statement can possibly ever hold even remotely the same weight as our globally-voted on statements. You wish. As if you don’t know otherwise and shamelessly capitalize on the ignorance of that fact.

[@topgunviper]

Myles doesn’t even agree with himself. LOL He just regurgitates sayings (not Bible) from Catholic saints. Which look up the word saint in the Bible… Catholic definition: In official Church procedures there are three steps to sainthood: a candidate becomes "Venerable," then "Blessed" and then "Saint." Venerable is the title given to a deceased person recognized formally by the pope as having lived a heroically virtuous life or offered their life. To be beatified and recognized as a Blessed, one miracle acquired through the candidate's intercession is required in addition to recognition of heroic virtue or offering of life. Canonization requires a second miracle after beatification. The pope may waive these requirements. A miracle is not required prior to a martyr's beatification, but one is required before canonization. Biblical definition: Salute every saint in Christ Jesus. The brethren which are with me greet you. Biblically a saint is a live person who has faith in Jesus.

[@FraeDen]

@@answeringadventism It is not necessarily a contradiction as the word Nephesh is related to the breathing apparatus which is activated at birth. If you would have been more scholarly in your endeavours you would have presented an overal view of SDA thinking on this matter instead of pinpointing a statement leaving out all background to make it fit your ideas about SDA. Among other things you might have considered the following: “At the very least this study (Status of the fetus in Mosaic Law) shows that Exodus 21:22-25 can no longer be appealed to legitimately in an attempt to find a decisive Biblical justification for abortion. On the contrary, this passage treats as if equal value the fetus, the mother and the person who causes the early delivery. In conclusion it is quite clear that the Mosaic Law considers the fetus to be fully human.” Journal of the Adventist theological society, vol 1 no 2 1990.

[@raidersinthesky]

Once he runs out of ideas, his channel is gonna be “Answering Mormonism”

[@answeringadventism]

Nope. I have no background in Mormonism and am not equipped for such. There are already people out there that have that base covered and are far more qualified. That’s part of why this platform exists-nothing like it existed. We haven’t even scratched the surface or broken the ice on entire subjects yet. Also, I learned from the SDA church that you can recycle the same canned topics and claims for 180 years and will still get millions of people to listen to you regardless of how many times you recycle the same stuff lol We’ve got plenty of content in store as theology is vast. So don’t worry 🙃

[@raidersinthesky]

@@answeringadventismnot enough. Just a whole bunch of recycling. Nothing new I haven’t heard. And there have been other platforms before yours that covered Adventists.

[@answeringadventism]

Name the other apologetic organization that was seeking to educate Christian’s on the inter workings of the system SDA of theology-equipping Christian’s to reach Adventists with the truth? Again, Adventists talking about recycling material is rather rich considering Adventism is exactly that. Like how many times can you parrot out revelation 12:17 with the same assertions? Lol what was presented in this video wasn’t recycled. Furthermore, this platform isn’t targeted at Adventists (which it sounds like you are). It isn’t supposed to be “new” stuff you haven’t heard. We’re a Christian educational resource. So no, I don’t think you understand what this platform is about which is why you think something like it has been done before.

[@raidersinthesky]

@answeringadventism: “this platform isn’t targeted at Adventist” yet your platform is called “answering adventism” hahahah. Sounds hypocritical. What makes you think I’m Adventist? Like literally, you have any other ideas aside from literally talking about Adventists? Maybe because you were one, from your previous video saying how you left. But yeah…there are other Christian platforms that handle things better. Like Apologia (Jeff Durbin) James White (Alpha and Omega Ministries), Sam Shamoun, Christian Prince, Avery from GodLogic, Allan Parr…just to name a few.

[@topgunviper]

The Bible has never changed and it’s been the same message for thousands of years. And you’re definitely not qualified to be a spokesman for Adventism. You misquote and twist everything to make it look different than it is. People do the same thing to the Bible which you do. It’s been the same from the beginning.