What Cities Will The PLL Teams Go To?

[@ECD]

Other top ideas: Boston Beans and Louisiana Crawdads

[@Bennyvfn]

I love u Greg make a Ryan drenner dna 2 tutorial

[@Random__25]

I think personally they should have a team in pennsylvania like philly because they are a great market for lacrosse and the champions ships for lacrosse are there.

[@8hds]

There should be a team in Atlanta

[@michaelpelzar9129]

I don't know why nobody has brought this up, but I think they are going to bring back the Denver Outlaws. The Outlaws regularly posted the highest attendance in the MLL. Large built in fan base already.

[@ECD]

Totally true 4th of July games were crazy

[@traubenberg]

I think that's on the docket, for sure. I think Greg was right with the Archers in the Rockies, but I think they get rebranded as the Outlaws and land in Denver.

[@TheFujiwuji]

Yes, I really like Denver Outlaws.

[@Thehockeylaxboy]

Yeah I want the outlaws to come back

[@bangbangrogers2750]

LFG OUTLAWS

[@mvanv14]

Annapolis/Chesapeake Bayhawks need to come back. That was such a sick dynamic with the mascot matching the area, and the colors were awesome. Also, lacrosse in Maryland is so big they will have no threat of a failing market

[@mvanv14]

Also after last weekend in charlotte they need a team here too. Huge turnout

[@jjlax7]

@@mvanv14Agreed. Way better turnout than Albany.

[@Ryanixrs]

I think the water dogs should be renamed the Hounds and bring a team back to Charlotte and the Carolinas. Missing a huge growing lacrosse market in the Carolinas that is slept on! A ton of youth teams and high schools in Charlotte for a fan base.

[@camgrantlove4344]

carolina chrome

[@BayouJeaux]

Charlotte needs a team.. Carolina Chrome would be sick. If for some reason the Cannons don’t end up in Boston or somewhere around there then the Carolina Cannons could work for sure

[@cuzcuz9214]

Atlas got the Carolina colors tho

[@BayouJeaux]

@@cuzcuz9214 facts. Chrome got a little of that in there though

[@benkearney8459]

nah we want the Hounds back!

[@iRichardEllis]

Raleigh Redwoods! 🤞

[@Rainman...]

​@@BayouJeaux Chrome seems like Miami colors

[@jonathanaldrich3624]

Im going Charlotte Chaos, Albany Archers, Boston Cannons, Wisconsin Waterdogs, Washington Wipsnakes, Sacramento Redwoods, Chicago Chrome, San Antonio Atlas

[@SDNM2023]

San Diego! NLL Seals have a good growing support and the sport is growing here in SoCal

[@quinncostello6362]

I feel that Philadelphia would be a perfect for Chaos, even if Chaos does not move to Philly, or if they get eliminated, a team should definitely be located there since the collage championships are there and the PLL championships are also in Philly, there is also a pretty big fan base in the area and during the championship game there was around 30,000 people it would be a great location for a PLL team

[@quandaledingle9382]

personally the chaos should 100% be somewhere in canada, canada needs a team anyway and there's so many canadian player on chauos

[@bangbangrogers2750]

Thank you Quandale dingle

[@peterkaplan6361]

Philly or Miami/Florida will for sure be chosen over Vegas or Chicago, much bigger lacrosse regions

[@ECD]

I agree honestly my brain was thinking Philly as a consistent playoff spot rather than home location

[@peterkaplan6361]

@@ECD that makes sense

[@dwalkerlax5545]

I think the chrome should go to south Florida because it is 1. a hot spot for lacrosse down here and 2. the colors match Miami with the Miami vice colors

[@Rainman...]

Yeah I kept thinking that I'm thinking Jacksonville one of the fastest growing cities in the nation... Also everybody wants to move teams out west when those cities are contracting and are absolute dumpster fires with crime

[@swarvylarvy]

I agree dude I was talking to my parents and said that Texas needed a team because of how big Texas is and the kinda lack of lacrosse there and they doubted me, happy to see someone agree with me!

[@SarahBoones13thLawyer]

Texans should have bought more tickets, piss poor showing over the history of MLL and PLL and Jerry Jones attempt to get the NCAA championship proved Texas will not support lacrosse. #NumbersNeverLie

[@Rainman...]

I was in Austin for an F1 race and saw lacrosse goals in people's yards that tells me that the sport is growing big time

[@swarvylarvy]

@@Rainman... hopefully I lived in Texas for 2 years and it forced me to take longer break from lacrosse (I had a disorder that forced me to quit) but I’m back now and getting better really wiickly

[@zacharysnow2620]

@@SarahBoones13thLawyer MLL history: fine I’ll give you that, but PLL history? That’s just incorrect, there has been a great turn out in Dallas the past two years.

[@Pbeaud8]

- Baltimore Whipsnakes - New York Chaos (Albany) - Long Island Archers - New England Cannons - Charlotte Waterdogs - Chrome-> Denver Outlaws - Dallas Atlas - PNW Redwoods Next for expansion: -Philadelphia -Florida -SLC -Great Lakes

[@ethanhinman5755]

Hope they bring the Denver Outlaws back. Such a cool MLL team.

[@allbroken2U]

I hope they add 2 more teams in 2024. Allows for three west coast teams, two midwest/texas, a southern team and let the rest find their homes in the east again.

[@ECD]

Yeah honestly I had a few more areas I felt needed teams but ran out of team options

[@jjlax7]

@@ECDToronto Sting (Chaos renamed). Carolina Waterdogs or just Hounds?

[@Marylandbrony]

Give 4 teams in the Northeast. New York City, Philadelphia, Baltimore and Boston. The other 4 should be in Toronto, Atlanta and in my opinion two of the most overlooked markets. Chicago and San Francisco. Denver and Washington D.C being the expansion cities in a few years.

[@ECD]

Love it!

[@Iucas1504]

I really want the atlas in Baltimore or Annapolis 🤞

[@billstreet5043]

the bay definitely getting a team, it has become a mini hot bed imo (dont come at me lmao) with so many guys playing at the college level and a lot of really strong hs/club/ programs that compete w maryland/long island

[@wittwilliams6]

there has to be a carolina team in charlotte or charleston. big lacrosse population in columbia, charleston, charlotte, and raliegh

[@pat_modoono]

Boston Cannons, California RedWoods, Chicago/Lakes WaterDogs, Maryland, NY, and Philly. That leaves 2 locations up for grabs

[@laxisunderrated]

might be my unpopular opinion, but i would love the lizards to come back ❤

[@kylebeck4101]

Ok this is alittle long winded but I’ve been thinking about this for awhile. They bring back one team from the mll. This will work out that the “home city” plays twice, giving they home fans more of an opportunity to see the home team. I think it will most likely be the lizards and they’ll play at Hofstra and then when the the nyfc stadium is built they’ll play there. As far as the league: Redwoods-San Fran Area Chrome- vegas Area Whip-snakes- Baltimore Atlas- Philly area Lizards-queens/Longisland Cannons- Boston Water dogs- Carolina/ Florida Chaos- Texas/Dallas Archers- Denver Allstar game-LA Playoffs at home cities, no tour

[@woahtheyre496]

Chaos/chrome a carolina team?

[@maxglibbery]

gotta be miami chrome - colour schem says it all and it sounds right

[@chrisfreter3629]

Boston Cannon, Columbus (Ohio) Waterdogs or in the Midwest area.

[@traubenberg]

While Pacific Northwest Redwoods is very wordy, it gets shortened to PNW Redwoods to go with DMV Whipsnakes. The shirts practically sell themselves. Heck, if you do Chicago Waterdogs (instead of Great Lakes), you get the Chicago Dogs ...but that's already an indy-league baseball team.

[@christianchristenson8095]

Seattle!

[@Nicoisfreezing]

I made a whole list myself including, Waterdogs: Washington Whipsnakes: Florida Cannons: Boston Archers: Carolina( I’m bias on this one bcuz I’m from Carolina) Chrome: Detroit Chaos: New Jersey Atlas: New England Redwoods: Los Angeles They also need to add the beans lc and New York lizards

[@Nicoisfreezing]

Yes, I liked my own comment. I don’t care, I have no clout

[@shinobibrogan091]

Im biased because I live in Georgia, but I would love to see the Atlanta blaze make a come back

[@declanfitzgerald3667]

#atlas in NJ

[@thestapler]

1. New England Cannons: I think they would end up playing at Gillette and change the market name to New England to align with the Patriot and Revolution. Plus it would open them up to play in the other New England States occasionally. 2. New York Archers: Primarily because this club already has colors that fans in the NYC metro would connect to. They would likely play in Long Island though. 3. Whipsnakes: Just like the host suggested I think they will represent the Baltimore-Washington area. Giving them availability to play home games in Annapolis, Baltimore or DC until the league is able to expand. At some point Baltimore and DC should probably have their own teams though. Whenever that day comes Whipsnakes to DC, expansion team to Baltimore. 4. Charlotte Waterdogs: I think they are going to try to put a team in the southeast. Charlotte is the best immediate option for that. I also believe this one of the most likely clubs to be rebranded. They already have a dog name, so they could become a new Charlotte Hounds. 5. Texas Atlas: in total agreeance with the host on this one. Plus if teams are going to represent states and regions, this team could play home games in the Austin and Houston areas as well as the DFW area. 6. Minnesota Chrome: This is who I think will be the "great lakes team". I think parts of their identity would be easy for fans in MN to connect to. The gladiator helmet logo may give fans a subconscious link to the Vikings, and their colors (black, light blue and pink) are similar to Minnesota United of MLS. Chrome is another team that I feel should rebrand. Keep the logo and colors, but change the name. Some type of warrior name would go great with that logo, Minnesota Gladiators/Centurion/Knights/etc. 7. San Jose Redwooods: Redwood trees are predominantly found in Northern California. PLL has already held events at Pay Pal Park in San Jose 🤷🏾‍♂ 8. Rocky Mountain Chaos: This is an either/or situation for me. This team either needs to be based in the Salt Lake City or Denver areas IMO. PLL has an existing relationship with Real Salt Lake as far as use of their venues. The 2020 bubble tournament was held at the RSL training facility. I agree with Rabil on not liking the name Chaos, If this club lands in Utah they should be renamed the Utah Scorpions. It would allow them to keep the same branding as far as logos, and many sports fans in UT are already fond of Chaos' colors due to the University of Utah.... The other option Denver. We all no Denver is a hotbed for lacrosse. They would be crazy not to consider it. As it stands now, the Colorado Rapids in MLS are not doing to well. Their ownership may want to bring in a PLL team to play at the stadium in Commerce City to make up for the losses in attendance the Rapids have had due to poor performance and other issues I won't get into. A rebrand would also be necessary if they went to Denver. They would have to be rebranded as new Denver Outlaws... Just like with Baltimore and DC, as the league expands both SLC and Denver should have their own teams. For now the PLL needs to pick which Rocky Mountain city they want to place a team

[@SarahBoones13thLawyer]

If only you did your homework. you would know how wrong you are. The 1 thing I can tell is you are an MLS simp and put jog-ball ahead of lacrosse.

[@alternative7586]

I don't think they should call it New England Cannons. They were originally in Boston and I think they should keep it there.

[@aggro6277]

My picks: Boston canons Albany archers San Francisco redwoods Philadelphia chaos Toledo water dogs Austin atlas Annapolis whipsnakes Long Island lizards Orlando chrome

[@BHRAGE]

Love the guessing game. Long Island Lizards 🦎

[@Colbyw74]

new england waterdogs, california chrome, washington redwoods, new york atlas, west virginia whipsnakes, chicago cannons, denver outlaws (replace archers both orange teams), and replacing chaos either the minnesota machinary or the northern knights (located somewhere in the minnesota/michigan/wisconsin area)

[@zacharysnow2620]

The Canadian Chaos just rolls off the tongue and is red… just makes sense to me!

[@Rainman...]

City/state/geographic areas I've got New England (Boston, Fox borough) New York (Albany, Nassau) Chesapeake/DMV (Baltimore, DC) Florida (Jacksonville, Tampa) Texas(Dallas, Austin) Las Vegas Rockies/Denver SoCal (LA, SD) I would play tournaments in the Great lakes area see how the turnout is for possible expansion.

[@ECD]

Thats a strong list!

[@timrainville]

DMV whipsnakes not bad but I'll take the whipsnakes and change it to the Chesapeake Bayhawks bring back the old name. Baltimore Bayhawks is really cool but too specific. DMV is ok covers a lot of ground. I like Chesapeake because it covers all the DMV plus the coastline too

[@Rainman...]

What he said⬆️🥍 Chesapeake Bayhawks (whip snakes)

[@cartertupislacrossehighlig6180]

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[@ECD]

Semi soft for sure

[@talangan]

My guess is the Waterdogs go to Charlotte/Carolinas and are re-named the Hounds.

[@joedunnuck4813]

It’s about time!

[@kevinweltymeditations]

Los Angeles Archers - PLL HQ Seattle Redwoods - Sounds great I also like the PNW Redwoods Austin Atlas - Somewhere in Texas Atlanta Chrome DMV Whipsnakes New York Waterdogs Canada Chaos - Now you have me thinking the chaos will be eliminated and the Outlaws are coming back tho New England Cannons

[@adoarhalsey]

There are no naturally occurring redwood groves in Washington and only a small corner in Oregon along the coast, just north of the California border. I lived most of my life in Washington and love it there, so much, but Redwoods and Seattle, or even the PNW, are about as mismatched as Cheetos and milk!

[@michaelarmstrong364]

I certainly hope the established lacrosse markets get taken care of. When it comes to branching out, I think places like Austin, Seattle, and San Diego would be safer bets among the "growth markets" as Rabil calls them.

[@LTSmith-cy4ip]

Would love a south East team, it’s growing down here and that would grow it exponentially.

[@kevinnorris8201]

Thanks for mentioning wa and Oregon!

[@ECD]

Any time!

[@connorrooney9638]

NEED A TEAM IN PHILLY

[@Josh.mchugh34]

Ecd I love your sticks. I have the carbon pro 3.0 shaft and mirage 2.0 head. They are amazing

[@ECD]

Let's go! Thank you for rocking our gear!

[@ehenbrjebd]

Miami chrome

[@MrEstacioRiverside]

Hope to get a team in the Carolinas. Carolina Chaos has a nice ring to it

[@benx2230]

Boston Cannons! Yes! But please, can we get both the Cannons and the Free Jacks out of that high school football stadium?

[@maccam77]

It would be sick to see the Denver Outlaws make a comeback! An expansion team in Canada would be really exciting too!!

[@ECD]

Canadian team would be a great addition!

[@danielrosario7524]

California Waterdogs Oregon Redwoods Brooklyn Atlas Chicago(Buffalo) Chaos Denver Archers (go to Denver outlaws colors The South Beach chrome Boston Cannons Then add a Carolina team (maybe a panthers color scheme), and add a team to Minnesota (I think Lakers would make the most sense from both NBA and the lakes).

[@christopherphillippe5222]

I love the idea of the Chicago water dogs, what I’m not bias what are you talking about?

[@anthonyperotto1089]

I really want the chrome in TX but I have a feeling it’s not gonna happen

[@TCG_Portfolio]

Can we bring back the barrage???

[@MegaGlupe]

1, boston cannons 2, la water dogs 3, dc atlas 4, philly whipsnakes 5, upstate ny / toronto nationals (chaos) 6, denver outlaws (chrome) 7, utah archers 8, cascadian red woods This leaves expansion for baltamor bayhawks, nyc lizards, midwest machine / chrome

[@swarvylarvy]

I've been rooting for the chrome with think they are coming to the colorado area but now hearing the archers might be coming here and with them being good I think I have a good enough reason to bandwagon

[@Noname-ly2lp]

Yeah Texas Atlas 🎉

[@Former_BCR]

I’m getting an ECD Ion after June

[@KongWint]

Miami chrome with the Miami vice colors

[@Dane_Briley]

Kansas City Chrome 🤞

[@ECD]

That has a nice ring to it!

[@cartermorris1629]

Atlanta has to have a team large growing game down there

[@andrew7196]

Philly, somewhere in the south, and so cal probably should have teams

[@MikeCee7]

I don’t understand how/where does a league of 8 teams, currently live without a base city name/location? They currently all have to live in the same geographic area, (near each other) to practice. So where do the players of each particular team currently primarily live?

[@Laxlogan4]

Gotta get an Edmonton team there is a huge lacrosse fan base in Canada it sucked when the rush moved we want another pro lacrosse team

[@Walnut_is_god]

Love you Ecd!!!!!!!!!

[@joeysacco34]

Windy City Waterdogs would be crazy👀

[@jpmorrislax22]

Archers down south

[@CoreyEdwards-k8d]

What about the Toronto Chaos

[@jjlax7]

Toronto Sting? 🤷‍♂️

[@viewierglobe105]

Dallas Whipsnakes, Miami Atlas, Minnesota Waterdogs, New York Chaos, Boston Cannons, San Diego Redwoods, Vegas Chrome, and get rid of the archers and bring back the Denver Outlaws

[@jjlax7]

Chrome in NY, maybe? Regardless, it would be great to see the league expand because there’s just way too much talent that aren’t on any rosters right now.

[@codyfrank9820]

I have alot of the same ideas as Greg Heres my thoughts: Boston Cannons obviously Metropolitan Waterdogs because Barstool Bigcat owns the team and Erika Nardini, CEO of Barstool Sports, was recently elected to the PLL board of directors. Barstool is headquartered in NYC. I think they will try to include NYC, long Island, and Philly somehow. The Premier Hockey Federation has the Metropolitan Riviters too. Pacific Redwoods. Same reason as Greg. New York Chaos. Chaos have too big of a fanbase in my opinion to remove. They have been in the Championship hunt too many times. They have a lot of players that are on the Buffalo Bandits and they have the Canadian/Box lacrosse style. I think this will be the Buffalo / Albany area. I think PLL will want a team here because of the lacrosse roots with the Haudenosaunee. Chesapeake Whipsnakes. Same reason as Greg Just seem to have the Maryland style and Maryland players South East Atlas: Pll goes to Charlotte regularly and NC loves their Carolina blue. I think they will include Basically everything from Virginia to Florida but be have their stadium in Charlotte. This will cover a lot of large lacrosse markets like Tarheels fans, Duke, UVA, and the up and coming Jacksonville fans Denver Outlaws (or new Colorado team). Established fan base that regularly had high attendance in the MLL. Denver has been a leader in western lacrosse growth for awhile. Mammoth have been doing well and seem to have fan support (I don't follow indoor as much so I don't know the attendance stats). Bonus points if Bill Teirney retired from NCAA to coach a Denver team Great lakes Archers. I think there will be a greatlakes team because PLL goes there frequently, and Lacrosse has its roots in this area. I think the archers because there used to be a lot of players involved in the Utah/great lakes lax organizations. I do think many of them have been traded but it sounded better then the greatlakes Chrome to me. Vegas Chrome. Same reasons as Greg. Its the only place I think chrome will fit lol Texas (new team) Panthers maybe?!? there's a lot they could do but I think they will be based out of Dallas or Forth Worth and represent all of Texas. Its a growing market and I dont think any of the other teams sound good here lol I think there are enough good players coming out of college and not playing anywhere from the MLL that 2 more teams is easily possible and that will be a full 10 week season so they wont need to have some teams be home more then once.

[@lacrossefan4751]

I can’t see them replacing a team. As a huge chaos fan if they change my team it would really hurt and idk if I’d be a fan still

[@christipherkelley7814]

Fingers crossed for the Balmer Beans!

[@ECD]

😂

[@wessnae]

Austin Atlas?

[@joseph.936]

Carolina Waterdogs.

[@MrLaxin11]

Water dogs are for sure Chicago

[@Zynbabwe]

Florida Archers… for the Native Americans. It sounds cool and you can land em near Jacksonville or Central Florida. People sleep on Florida lacrosse

[@edbenchmarks]

i hope the carolinas get a team

[@tommybrian1]

Whips in the DMV I like it !

[@tommytsunami4910]

Atlas are the dallas owboys of the league in roster and colors and logo. They'll go dallas. Every redwood fan I know is also an eagles fan so i hope they go Philly. But Cali would make a lot of sense. Canons going back to Boston. Waterdogs to Chicago for PMT

[@CharlesPate]

No southeast? Atl? Charlotte

[@ehenbrjebd]

Seattle waterdogs or Washington waterdogs

[@Trippfunny]

why dont they just add new teams

[@MikeCollinsCinemaMercantile]

Chaos becomes NYLC. Archers in Philly. Chrome goes to Denver.

[@davidconnell6667]

Bring back the Bayhawks!

[@mattpudas9982]

Need a team in ATL!!!

[@pcain317]

Bridgeport Barrage? bring back another OG team

[@TheFujiwuji]

I'd love to see... Boston Cannons Denver Outlaws (better than Archers) Pacific Redwoods (or The Pac Sequoias... "Sequoias" name honors Indian/Cherokee chief) Texas Atlas (Bull logo goes well with Texas) New York Chaos Maryland Watermen (or OC Crabbers) Carolina Banksies Vegas Chrome (or Vegas Rattlers) (Should lose the "Whipsnakes" and "Waterdogs" names). And it'd be great if they ditched the crappy 2-point line, and made the fields the normal length.

[@thestapler]

Whipsnakes were the PLL's first champion. I feel confident in saying they wouldn't allow their first champ to be renamed.

[@TheFujiwuji]

@@thestapler True, good point, about the first champion. But I don't know which genius ever thought "Whipsnakes" was a good idea to begin with. Obviously they went totally Woke by creating team names that can't potentially offend anyone... so you're left with a bunch of uninspiring, disparate, milk toast team names. C'mon, Waterdogs?? Let's just pray that "Atlas" never owned slaves.

[@thestapler]

@@TheFujiwuji I don't understand how those names could be considered "woke" on any level 🤷🏾‍♂ Whipsnakes and waterdogs are animals that exist in the real world. They are also unique within the world of team names. Naming teams nowadays is not easy. If you come up with something too generic, you'll get clowned for it. You come up with something unique, and you'll get clowned for it. While I admit most of the PLL names aren't great (the same can be said about most of the MLL and NLL names too), I'd rather have something original and unique than a generic name that thousands of youth, high school and college teams all over the country already use.

[@TheFujiwuji]

@@thestapler Well, I think most would agree that the Washington "Commanders" name totally blows, as does the Cleveland "Guardians". So the trend in team names has to go through the Woke filter in the current day of political correctness. Chrome, Atlas, Chaos, Redwoods are decent, but Waterdogs seems lame... I just think of a wet dog. And whipsnakes? It's not even a cool snake... I'm not a reptile expert, but it conjures up images of a thin, wiry garden snake. Archers is better, but it's a bit antiquated, I think of medieval warfare.

[@TheNino37]

I STILL accidentally refer to Canons as Boston. Old habits die hard.

[@chazsmoove]

Bring back the Ohio Machine

[@meriknooren1818]

Houston Atlas?

[@soapycleaningproduct]

I feel like if the Cannons are gonna be playing in Gillette in Foxborough, then they should be called the ‘New England Cannons’. They’re playing in Foxborough, not Boston. But just my opinion, they should still stay in the New England area.

[@Hockeyisvibin]

I don’t know why but I feel like atlas would be a great fit to Atlanta

[@iRichardEllis]

Bring back the Bayhawks (for Baltimore) and the Outlaws (for Denver). The Cannons to Boston is obvious! Then after that…Vegas Whipsnakes…Raleigh Redwoods…San Antonio Atlas…Minneapolis Waterdogs…Albany Archers…Philadelphia Chrome and bring back the Connecticut Hammerheads but to Chicago to round it out!

[@Chappy222]

Where’s the southeast representation

[@jayswallow2554]

All this talk makes me want the PLL to release stats on which cities/regions have been the best and worst for their turnout and ratings.

[@blainemcmahon9161]

I don’t think the market is big enough in Vegas to host a team. I also don’t think many people would be going to field games in the summer heat in Las Vegas. Connecticut deserves a team more than anyone after selling out tickets year over year when PLL comes to town. I agree it’s nice to spread the teams around, but that’s not gonna help PLL long term and makes for terrible graphics when 80% of the stadium is empty

[@ECD]

Interesting point about the vegas heat. that would be brutal!

[@travisczech8772]

Minnesota Waterdogs!!!

[@shane7366]

Give chrome to Baltimore

[@ted.barnes]

Chicago needs a team

[@paologrisanti4627]

Chrome in North Carolina makes more sense to me