THE BIGGEST SNUBS | Breaking down the NEW PLL cities

[@joshuasweeney7864]

I could see the Chrome re emerging as an expansion team down the road and then you can also maybe bring back more MLL teams, if the league starts taking off you can do Almost anything

[@ECD]

Bringing them back would be smart for sure

[@pumapath2282]

this league wont take off like you think it will. ny atlas is just a rip off of the buffalo bills

[@maccam77]

Nice to see someone actually talk about the future and the thought that goes into expansion. Great video to give fans insight into the choices made and calm down casuals who don’t understand how hard the PLL is working to grow the game 👍👍

[@ECD]

Appreciate it! It is not always as easy or simple as it looks on the surface

[@RTLife]

Florida Chrome is coming in a couple of years

[@BDEntertainment423]

I think if they bring the chrome back they need to put it in the Florida /Miami market. Totally agree but they need to bring back the Long Island lizards and Texas Rattler's. Also, I'm totally biased because I'm from Tennessee but a team in Nashville or Atlanta would be sick

[@Boop_Cube]

Ayyy another new video!!! I’m happy about the outlaws but mad chrome is gone😢. Love you guys.

[@ECD]

Appreciate you watching. Chrome will be missed.

[@OwlQueen16]

Totally agree on expansion, Chicago/Mpls and Texas. Thought ‘Woods should have been Pacific Northwest leaving Cali with an expansion option. Look for PLL to add one West team in a couple seasons and move Chaos to East Div.

[@chrisdeal7220]

Big fan of the San Diego somethings!!

[@stephenray3838]

Lizards would be amazing to come back. I remember the early seasons with Sobe. It was awesome.

[@ECD]

I would love that the early sobe seasons were sick

[@ECD]

The lizards come back would be amazing plus paul played for them

[@MegaGlupe]

Despite a few regions not having home markets, the regular season (not including allstar and playoffs) is more than 8 weeks so texas, canada, the midwest and so on can still get a tour stop for now

[@tommybrian1]

Looking forward to the new teams

[@virginialax03]

Chicago Chrome or Columbus Chrome sound pretty good. Dallas Rattlers maybe as well. Overall they did pretty well, plenty of room for growth if this goes well and makes the league enough money to expand.

[@carterclover1167]

“Still a dog that doesn’t like water” 😂

[@Ohdannyboy8811]

I think the woods having "California" as their area makes a lot of sense. It opens them up to cover all the markets in CA in some way or another, plus it keeps everyone invested if you rotate the venues, SF, LA, SD, etc...all areas they can hit, especially if they don't have the funding for their own facility yet. Keeping the north involved helps with PNW crowd too.

[@yeehawstrength8315]

I think bringing back the Florida Launch is something that just needs to happen. Lacrosse is much bigger now in Florida than a decade ago.

[@supagremlin3274]

I preferred when we were the Charlotte Hounds but I guess I won’t complain about the new name/logo/colors if we still get lacrosse in Charlotte.

[@michaeldail1642]

Let’s start with the entire central time zone! The six biggest TV markets in order are NYC, LA, Chicago, Philly, DFW, and Houston. Three of the top six tv markets left off. Can’t grow the game if you don’t have teams in half of the biggest markets. Add 8 more teams and realign… Texas, Chicago, Arizona, Seattle, Miami, two of Nashville/Louisville/Atlanta/anywhere in Canada.

[@ECD]

Agree with you entirely I hope across the next 2 years we see them add 2 or even 4 teams.

[@darkhorse911]

The Atlanta Braves were NL West for a long time. We need the Silverbacks back. Atlanta has the infrastructure, hopefully a future team!

[@billstreet5043]

if pll plays it right expansion will be somewhere in midwest and dallas texas, then move carolina to the east

[@BentKerf]

Want to see a great lakes team (or midwest team), texas and florida. Glad they are breaking into state/city teams but man it was a miss by not including any of these. Go to where lax is growing not where its grown. I'd pay some good money to watch the Swarm play at Excel again and was really hoping they'd give us something up here right away

[@ECD]

I would love to see a Great Lakes team I think that branding would be really cool.

[@ECD]

Bring back the Riptide!

[@ryanelston1316]

I wouldn’t be surprised by an Ohio, Florida, Chicago, and Texas expansion team moving forward. I’m overall super happy with the changes and having a team to officially root for in Cali rather than individual players. They’ve done a great job with the league thus far and trust in them moving forward.

[@carterclover1167]

I really do think a Chicago team could really help the play in the Midwest I think the same for somewhere in Texas like Austin or Dallas. But that’s 10 teams right there. Idk I would love to see it but I’m sure they need to pressure test it this year to better understand their future team placement.

[@HeyItsUSM4N]

What bout thoughts of getting Canadian teams? Toronto Vancouver etc…

[@ECD]

Oh wow good point didn't even talk about that.

[@HeyItsUSM4N]

@@ECD ya with lacrosse being the national sport of Canada and the somewhat popularity of the NLL, seeing lacrosse market progress there we might see a fan following of the sport similar to soccer in Europe

[@NateK48]

Texas got absolutely snubbed #givetexaslaxteam

[@markusbeaulieu9439]

We need more teams 8 is to small

[@orangus_8302]

miami chrome when they expand💯💯

[@connor15316]

Atlanta was a big snub for me

[@jackmessel1136]

Missing out on the Michigan market with this one. Quite disappointing, really, missing out on tapping into that. Lacrosse is exploding in Michigan.

[@AjLovesLax]

No midwest teams AND chromes gone? Man this week isnt going so great

[@Ethan_Madjid88]

Once they finish expanding with the MLL teams. What do you think they are gonna do? If they keep expanding what do you think some cool team names would be?

[@austinjohnson6094]

I want the chrome to San Diego

[@ethanburns4011]

I’ve been a Chrome fan since day one. I even own a Guterding jersey. I was confused and saddened to see my team go. Makes no sense.

[@kylesmith-1008]

I’ll bet they expand with the Long Island Lizards, Florida Launch, Ohio Machine, and Dallas Rattlers.

[@clydefrogct9a]

If the former owner wasn’t such a gigantic jerk to the Rabil brothers , I would have loved to see the return of the Chesapeake BayHawks ! The Maryland Whipsnakes colors looks like an expansion team for those who play their 5th year at University of Maryland.

[@awlordy]

The BayHawks could be the Dc/VA team.. still capturing th Chesapeake vibe

[@fredsmith4225]

Exactly put them at Audi field in DC and that place will be packed every game

[@leestuart8613]

Playoffs and All-Star games could, actually should, be played in the Midwest, Texas, and Canada.

[@emlax08]

Columbus should have gotten a team over Philly. Should’ve kept Philly as a championship weekend site, it’s also right between NYC and Baltimore by only 2 hours each way. Columbus is

[@michelinman2809]

I wish Florida had gotten a team but I now understand why that can’t happen yet 👍

[@jahcobc8463]

no canadian team, no mention of canada in the video I get that players would be taxed more on their contracts and that there are probably some hosting issues but c'mon it's canada and a 2-3 hour drive for a majority of the east teams, with a fan base

[@ECD]

Our apologies for that! Canada deserves a bid for sure would love to see a team from our west and a second in Canada.

[@asherkuiken2200]

Give Canada a team!! Bring back the Hamilton Nationals!

[@ECD]

Bring them back. Bring them back. Bring them back.

[@bigrobvlogs5096]

Copying from Neil @ Cardinal Lacrosse because his touch points make to much sense not the be here as well. On a personal note I hate that I know have to redesign every teams logo for dyes haha. The original 6 teams were designed by the design agency We Are Bill. The Waterdogs brand was designed by the agency, Fortnight Collective. WAB & FC are outside agencies who do brand design for a living. The inter-office dynamic of an in-house designer trying to brand your entire league just feels like such a huge problem. Additionally, I think the fact that the PLL spent a very good amount of money developing those brands, then untold money on top of that to design jerseys, apparel, and then market those brands, only to dump all of them 5 years into the league is the craziest part of this whole thing. 5 years into the league and not a single brand hasn't been completely overhauled.

[@ryanwinters7120]

Need the lizards back

[@Hiddeny.2044]

Yes bring the Lizards back

[@nathanwillis7135]

No Canadian team is crazy, missing out on a big audience

[@timhayes8509]

Texas Whipsnakes made a lot of sense to me. I hate how they ditched their color scheme in favor of becoming Terps clones. Plus this kills a Bayhawks return. Paul's point about "relegation" with the Chrome annoys me. Their merch stopped selling because all of their Duke stars retired so you rebranded with a name that sells, call it what it is. If team survival was a meritocracy, the Bayhawks (who won way more titles than the Cannons) would've survived the merger. I think Atlas went to NY because Paul wants them to eventually play at Red Bull Arena and get Red Bull involved in the league. Rip Lizards. Breaks my heart but I get the reasoning. A Red Bulls LC has potential

[@SeanCain98]

Red Bull Arena is not New York though

[@lax_nuggets_.]

I get the Maryland theme color but it reminds me of Jurassic Park

[@ECD]

I could see that. Don't hate it. But I am from Maryland

[@lax_nuggets_.]

​@@ECD oh no no I like the colors just saying it reminds me of Jurassic Park

[@michaeldifabio8821]

Let's go Whipsnakes!!

[@dylanvcr]

Willing to bet the Machine return as a midwest team...

[@paulorganek1780]

What about Rochester

[@manwithrake]

fla. 24 million people 300 hs teams 30 college teams

[@jaredsanders9582]

bring back the florida launch!!!!!

[@stevetoto3270]

I can see the NY Atlas being rebranded as Albany Atlas in a few years, paving the way for a return of the LI Lizards They need a team in Texas They need a team at least one of Minnesota, St Louis and/or Chicago I can see them bringing in a 2nd CA team to split up LA from SF Lots of possibilities to grow the league and the sport!

[@ECD]

I would LOVE that plan

[@thechancellorvc]

Great Lakes Water Dogs made simply too much sense

[@ericwerner2109]

I was hoping to see a Pacific Northwest team. Im not liely to go to Cali to see a game. Seattle, Vancouver, Portland even, MUCH more likely to attent in person.

[@ECD]

PNW needs a team for sure

[@owengoldstein1435]

Florida team

[@ECD]

Bring back the launch?

[@Hiddeny.2044]

Gators or something

[@rickyume]

Dallas Atlas Makes so much more sense🤷🏻‍♂️

[@sheairvin6558]

Sobe unfortunately died, a sad day for drink enjoyers. As a DC chrome fan i'm sick to see my boys go they have such a sick color scheme for how trash they were.

[@ECD]

RIP sobe. DC chrome would have been cool or Miami chrome

[@fadercreek]

any city that has a nll team will get a pll team

[@lancegoulet8100]

2 divisions with only 8 teams is a recipe for disaster. You could easily have the best 3 teams in the same conference and end up with a weak team in the final because their conference just wasn't strong. League needs to bigger before conference play really makes sense. Also, not having conferences allows you to do some cool and creative stuff with the All Star game. Was not a huge fan of the Youth vs. Experience they had last year, but it was a cool thing to try. Love having captains chosen and allowing them to pick their teams. Also wouldn't mind having everyone throw their sticks in before the game and making the teams by randomly throwing sticks to either side (like you would do at recess) with players and fans not knowing who is on each team until right before the game - and yes, 3 piles (one short sticks, one poles and one goalie sticks).

[@adamgeigerjr6995]

Detroit Chrome Florida Green Dragons Texas Ferals You get Chrome back & in the motor city representing cars. You get green dragons from the iguanas that took over the sunshine state. And you get a tough hog name & logo to rep the smartest & most dangerous invasive species in north america

[@lancegoulet8100]

The biggest snub was CANADA! NOT the midwest. NOT Texas. CANADA! An entire country. Canada should have had a team. And as a Bret Hart fan, I will miss the black and pink!

[@ECD]

Honestly really sorry I left Canada out of the conversation! And so did the PLL they need a team.

[@stephenray3838]

The Waterdog paw logo looks like the Max Dogs youth lacrosse club logo. Not good

[@ECD]

The paw print does for sure

[@unclesammyboi1744]

Ok but how did Albany not get a team who plays lacrosse in New York City Albany sold out a whole freaking stadium

[@jacos.870]

Yo my boy keeps referring to Cali as a country. 😂

[@CerberusRhyno]

I feel like the midwest got cheated and i felt like the southeast was cheated too. louisville is my hometown and hosted all star weekend last year i felt like we deserve at least a future expansion

[@OGDamnnation]

Minnesota would have been better than Illinois.

[@jacobleynes2858]

Richmond was snubbed

[@anguswalker8010]

selling chrome jersey size medium 💀💀

[@markusbeaulieu9439]

Bring back chrome put them in Florida and plz add more teams it’s gonna get boring watching the same 8 teams play

[@jessekonczos5460]

Bring Ohio machine back

[@juangonzalez799]

They could of given Philadelphia a better color though... purple no good

[@ECD]

Hey cmon we're ravens fans down here purple is not that bad!

[@chrisfreter3629]

Thanks for no Midwest team.... #PLLnoteamsmidwestfail

[@ECD]

Maybe expansion?!? A few years perhaps

[@alisonfrey7374]

Water dogs not a water dog. SMH