What created the Creator?

[@NinoPerez-y2c]

How is it that there has always been something evolving without a beginning? This always blows a fuse in me, so I don't dwell on it. However, the teaching that The Creator of this universe had a start as a being with a one pointed consciousness, in a world of form like us, this is one of the most inspirational teachings I've ever heard. Thanks Kim.

[@JessicaSunlight]

♥ There is a fundamental reality that even spiritual people do not grasp or spiritual seekers in general, and it's not something easy to grasp until you grasp your own nature as pure consciousness flowing through the mind and anchoring your presence in the human body ~ that Consciousness is the beginning that always was, is and will be as if a fundamental reality, a foundation for al lthings. However you can consider that world of form indeed has a beginning. This is something materialists very much in struggle, they need to preserver their worldview but at the same time to answer question of the beginning of this universe. Their latest attempt to say something came out of nothing did not really worked to persuade the people of Earth because philosophically it has no meaning ~ you cannot have nothing and build a house. So there was something before all things started, obviously it was something immaterial and something that give birth to matter - the mind. But even mind had a beginning, because it's via mind consciousness being expressed into a form.

[@johnreese9343]

Hi Kim, great videos, I'm learning a lot since finding your channel. You have a fresh way of looking into matters. Please think about this question a bit more, might be even worth asking ascended masters, because you are describing behavior and not the why: Bats bat, cats cat, and creators create. Re: your jail example - the jailed person must ask why they were put in jail, otherwise they will learn how to open doors well but they will waste their life in jail unnecessarily. Saying don't think about the problem seems like your personal conclusion after many years of pondering. It's not yet time to stop :) My thought on why time does not apply to creator is this: Time is another dimension to the physical world we live in. Similar to how one thing can go from 3D world to 2D world (I'm sure my cat lives in 2D because he can't see the mouse on the counter), we (humans) live in a 4D world (3D + time as 4th dimension). One possible scenario is in creator's world, time-dimension does not apply or exist, so we can assume creator has no start and end (?= always existed?), so the question of when creator was created doesn't apply. However, it does not answer why the time dimension does not exist in creator's world (plus it created it for us, so it must have tasted it). I've been investigating world's religious books, they all seem to say the same thing - you are born with a "purpose" and go do it. "Purpose"s being this world is a test for hell/heaven so pray, everything is a simulation (to help simulator study outcomes) so don't worry, we need to enlighten ourselves and join one so meditate, or help people, etc. In my opion, these "purpose"s explain behavior but not why. Who thought about the "purpose" and why? why enlighten? why go through the test? Each of us being part of the "One", it's worth asking the why question, and in a way, the "One" could be also asking the questions, maybe the creator itself doesn't know and pondering the same question why itself exists (while continously creating because that's what it does)... Good day and looking forward to your more videos.

[@dudungabdulrachman5497]

Thank you Mr Kim and all Ascended Master From Jakarta Indonesia

[@구르마-b5y]

킴 구루님~ 명쾌합니다. 인간 누구도 답을 줄수없는 신의 답변입니다.❤

[@USPESHNAYA1966]

Kim, thank you for the book about the reality simulator, it has greatly shifted my perception of reality. I’m reading it for the third time and I’m delighted with how simply and structured the information is presented. Thank you!

[@kimmichaels-po4wz]

Great to hear, thank you.

[@JessicaSunlight]

Could you or mrKim kindly share the book title ? Thank you ♥

[@MrCanis4]

What created the Creator? People. As long as people cannot agree with "We don't know (yet)", these people will create their own answer.

[@jeffsmith8065]

or accept other people's theories

[@JessicaSunlight]

♥ That's incorrect my beloved heart. Creator created people. What people have created is a graven image of the Creator, some even went further into the insanity of the antichrist mind and proclaimed a new kind of graven image "there is no creator". People who believe their minds are reality are never going to agree on anything, each one of them convinced their mind is how life works, their mental image, thief graven image. Once people step beyond their mind and will connect to the Reality of Christ, then such people will agree and can easily cooperate and co-exist.

[@MegaTen-ts5xf]

I think it's good to ask oneself "why do I need an answer?" - "because it is unpleasant"

[@JessicaSunlight]

♥ That usually comes from the ego my beloved heart. It was created based on some belief, some world view and if you dismantle it and replace it with higher or different one, that ego will die and ego, if it's old and a fat, does not want to die and to this ego it will be "unpleasant" that you seek different perspectives and answers. When you experience this, simply step back, give yourself a moment and acknowledge one simple thing - it's not you who is struggling. Truth is liberating and indeed pleasant and enjoyable for it gives you freedom, for the ego it's a death sentence that it cannot stand and will negatively react to it, fight it and be upset about that you are to leave the ego based on outdated information behind into a new beginning.

[@MegaTen-ts5xf]

@@JessicaSunlight lol, write shorter

[@JessicaSunlight]

@@MegaTen-ts5xf That was quite short my beloved heart, coming from me 🤭💞

[@MegaTen-ts5xf]

@@JessicaSunlight well I didn't read it

[@JessicaSunlight]

@@MegaTen-ts5xf was not a mandatory read beloved heart ♥🤭

[@iffisus]

Very good question you raised in the last sentence about the prison. Yes. Difficult for human brains to imagine something that is beyond human imaging. The revelation Toward the light (1920), with Ardor and his Account, gives an attempt on describing the process of the arosing of God: "Through all eternity Darkness was everywhere. In the Darkness was the Light; in the Light were Thought and Will. But Thought and Will were not in the Darkness. In the Light was the seed of all that is good, but in Darkness was the seed of all that is evil. Unknown eternities passed. Slowly, Thought and Will were drawn toward each other. Slowly, the Light spread, it became brighter and purer. It was dawn. Unknown eternities passed. Thought and Will drew more closely toward each other. The Light spread more and more, it shone with radiant beauty. It was morning. Again, unknown eternities passed. Thought and Will drew closer still toward each other. The Light welled forth everywhere, it blazed clear, fair and glorious. It was day. Again, unknown eternities passed. Thought and Will became united. Then there arose from the Light, by the power of Thought-Will, a blazing figure, a spiritual Being - God. But in the same moment God caused twelve radiant figures, spiritual beings, to emerge from the Light. And these became the Helpers of God, God's Servants. And this was the beginning of time. But no human being is, and no human being ever will be, able to gauge the eternities that have passed from the beginning of time until this day, your time. When God arose from the Light, Darkness was vanquished, but not destroyed. By the power of Thought-Will, He brought Darkness under the concealing waves of the sea of Light. To separate and to purify the evil and the vile, God causes Darkness to flow through His flaming Being in eternally swirling waves. Slowly, Darkness diminishes, but when that day will come when all evil and everything vile has been absorbed by the Light and purified by God's flaming Self is known unto Him alone, who is all-knowing. When God arose from the Light, He was perfect - all-knowing, all-loving, almighty. And He endowed His Helpers with much knowledge, much love and much power. By Thought and from the Light, He formed and created a vast Kingdom, perfect in its glory. By Thought and from the Light, He formed and created abodes for Himself and for His Helpers. Then God became the Creator. But I can describe nothing of this Kingdom and of these abodes, nothing that can be comprehended by human beings. For compared with the glorious Kingdom of God even the most beautiful place on Earth is misty and cold."

[@JessicaSunlight]

♥ Well that's an issue my beloved heart, that you cannot use your mind to know something beyond your mind. Creator or God's reality is not part of your mind. If you are using mind to try to experience or understand God's reality or Creator this way then you are doomed to fail, because everything you will do is simply a mental gymnastics, thinking within thinking, swimming in the sea of mental samsara without getting anywhere, creating mental images of what God's reality or Creator are like. However the only practical way is to step outside of your mind and experience directly at list glance of this reality beyond your mind. This is indeed the only way to avoid being trapped in mental analyses ad infinitum. Seek and learn to go beyond the mind.

[@iffisus]

@@JessicaSunlight I see your point. The text was recieved to clarify the origin of God in a more precise way, in contrast to the limited text given in the Bible. The entire work Towards the Light was intended to reform Christianity, which have become stuck.

[@JessicaSunlight]

@@iffisus Well there is always a revelation to clarify, to expand and to add new. In the past more abstract teachings were given, more abstract ideas were presented because this was part of the law of free will. Today more direct teachings can be given. Of course we can see how people have partaken these very very old ideas that were meant for a very very primitive way of thinking and now people run around with these very limited ideas today and proclaim them to be the best possible. So clearly things at the mental level can always be refined and Jesus does not use the same ideas and concepts he was using when he was walking dusty roads back then. Christianity became truly a dead end that refuses to grow and anti-growth is part of the antichrist mind. My latest awareness that Jesus has given up trying to reform Christianity and now focused on creating a new Church of Christ. He already working with many people and have already established a few new churches here and there under him, I hope he will be successful to make his dream come true, may be I even be part of this in some way one day and you too of course if you have inclination towards "christian" direction and helping people gain pure teachings of Jesus in christian culture. Anyway I have side tracked a tad ♥Feel free to share your thoughts!

[@jeffsmith8065]

This is the was question I use to ask my mother when I was a child,I would go on and on, I would say well who created God then who created the one who created God and keep going lol 😆

[@JessicaSunlight]

♥ That's a funny mental trap people get caught in my happy heart, because "God" is not part of the mind and in the mind everything has a beginning and an end. And so people try to use mind to understand something that is beyond the mind, but they fail because you cannot use mind to go beyond the mind. People who have sold their mind to Materialism are often very caught up in this mental gymnastics, fail to see how they fail in their logic to recognize they are using logic of the mind to go beyond the logic of mind. If you could think your way to heaven, then everybody would have been in heaven by now. 🤭

[@johnbowen4442]

I think sometimes more like a asylum and we are the ones who flew over the cuckoo nest 😅

[@USPESHNAYA1966]

Kim, how do you understand and embrace the principle of turn the other cheek?

[@JessicaSunlight]

♥ Well, let me take my try on this one, beloved heart . In the time of Beloved Jesus when he walked the dusty roads, it was understood that you do not answer or react based on physical violence with violence no matter what others do to you. Of course this is a reference to a much deeper reality, because everything you do in your mind is done with energy so the question is how do you respond to other energies or react with energies at something or to something. Are you responding in a dualistic manner or are you turning the other cheek, meaning you are not engaging at an energetic level into a dualistic struggle, you do not reinforce it. Many people had to start from the bottom to implement this principle, no matter what others do you will not respond negatively or with violence back. Then you grow to address the emotional body and then the mental and to the identity level and you over all learn to become non-attached and turn the other cheek at all levels of your mind. This statement truly has a very deep meaning. You can check what Jesus said at this so-called "modern" time about it.

[@alena-qu9vj]

Sorry, but this is all just words unrelated to the "real" reality. The first problem which has to be addressed in discussion like this is the possibilites of our human means of perception to process the matter in question. To keep it short, our "equipment" is by far not compatible with the nature of it. We just CANNOT comprehend the nature of time or timelessnes with our limited cognitive possibilities. Its like trying to see atoms or X-rays with bare eyes. But apparently to humbly accept the limited possibilities of our human brain is the most unacceptable thing ever for most.

[@JessicaSunlight]

♥ First of all my beloved heart, there are no mental words or concepts that are reality itself. However there are ideas, mental ideas that can be tied to reality even though they do not become reality. This is why you have things that's true and things that are lies, things that are valid information and disinformation. Using the mind to express yourself in the world of matter, the physical world is indeed a reality. And you cannot get away from this. That's correct, you cannot use your mind to understand something beyond your mind. For example, many people who believe in materialism, cannot fathom and come up with answers to the mental loop "who has created the creator?" They are using their minds to answer the question. And considering that everything in the mind has a beginning and an end, they end up with answering "another creator" and why do they do this? Because their logic is part of the mind and you can only have an answer based on this mind. In other words, yo cannot use mental logic to go beyond the mind, logic is part of the mind. And God's Reality or Creator or Spiritual Reality is not part of your mind. You cannot reason mentally your way into heaven so to speak. However, you as pure consciousness can indeed step beyond the mind and experience higher reality, even if it's just a split second, it's possible. So while your mind cannot comprehend nature of timelessness and infinity, because your mind does exist to create limited forms and that are subject to time, you however as infinite part of God's reality that resides in the mind and human body can indeed experience this reality, because you are not your mind nor are you your body. The question is how suppressed are you by your ego elements and your mind that you cannot step outside of it? So, it's truly up to you to try to learn to go beyond your mind or be crucified by it like Jesus was, who was hanging on the cross, until you like Jesus decide to step beyond your ego elements and logic of the mind to experience something beyond it all and surrender the mortal self and be resurrected in Spirit. I encourage you to dare to be more my beloved heart and do not give up if you have not yet made brake through.

[@JessicaSunlight]

@@Erik-V ♥ The irony of my beloved heart is that you have used the same thing as the person you have replied to, using your mind to analyze and evaluate. Aren't you supposed to demonstrate going beyond the mental trap of analyzing my beloved heart? Now, there is some validity to what you are pointing to, however with this attitude what are you trying to achieve exactly my beloved heart? The person is trapped in the mind's logic and you are what? Trying to put him down for being stuck in the mind? Well he does not know that because he is stuck in mental logic and because maybe if you could have been more kind towards him he may have considered your possibility that he hasn't tried to reason at a higher level. Are you trying to help people or being Mr Smart Pants because you see and other people do not see something? You don't need to reply to me, just be honest ~ what was the intent behind your reply, was it only based on purity? I don't think so. And do consider free will, this person has absolute right to be in blind ally and simply share what he thinks and so he did. He genuinely believes there is no way out or to see. There is validity to what you are trying to address in some regard at list but at the same time there is unbalance that is a projection on your part that does not truly exist with this person but in your mind alone. Take a look, see if you can notice it my beloved heart. Use this as an opportunity.

[@alena-qu9vj]

@@JessicaSunlight Thank you for your reaction. In my post I did not intend to go deep in my personal spiritual evolution. I just pointed to the fact, that on-line discussions, unevoidably dependent on words of our logical mind, are not proper means to research and get known the ideal timeless actuality you further write about, and therefore all such discussion are just mental gymnastic without any real impact.

[@JessicaSunlight]

@@Erik-V Well, this is playing ego games my beloved heart, hope it helps you see what you are doing more clearly now. Projecting rather than looking at yourself. So, let us make a note of choice you made and path you took my beloved heart. There is another challenge I have left for you under another comment of yours. ♥

[@JessicaSunlight]

@@alena-qu9vj There is nothing wrong with this my beloved heart at all ♥ Yes, it's limited, but you do your best, you say your peace, you speak your heart, you share to your best ability and it may help you grow and it may help others ponder something. Be simple and be at peace with some limitations of words and mental ideas and that people can understand or misunderstand in their own way, there is not much you can do, however sharing is important for you and for other people as well. It's part of the growth by interacting with other people. When you put thoughts in words you do make clear certain things for yourself, you also may see something impure or you may even be surprised that something valuable came to be ~ sharing is important, speaking your mind is important and be at peace where you are on your path, be you as you are right now my beloved heart ♥ We already have the opportunity to grow by sharing ourselves with each other and our views and energies 🙂 Nothing is lost or wasted if you want to make use of it. Imagine Jesus refusing to speak about God's nature or other topics because "it would be impossible to properly convey" then nothing would be ever spoken and people would have no opportunity. Sometimes people do need to have mental gymnastics just to realize they want experience of the real thing, but if they would never do it how would they know it? Of course you can always get stuck but as you stuck you can unstuck yourself ~ free will is still free. So again, don't give up my happy heart and embrace higher perspective, chin up, smile bright, eyes sharp 🤭👩‍❤‍👩

[@blanketjackson8075]

Just a friendly reminder that WE WON!!! LOL!!!

[@JessicaSunlight]

Are you so sure about it my beloved heart? ♥

[@blanketjackson8075]

@@JessicaSunlight yes ma'am

[@JessicaSunlight]

@@blanketjackson8075 We have unprecedented opportunity to see and learn if this was a victory indeed or a lesson to learn my beloved heart. I'm quite excited I must say.