What Did the Real Antikythera Mechanism Do And Who Actually Made It?

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[@christiandauz3742]

What if a Time-traveler went back in time and tried to Industrialized Bronze Age Egypt?

[@ExpanSV]

That code doesn't work...

[@shanbannan17]

you would think humanity would come together and build rockets so we can spread out in the universe if we ar going to die from this sun in the end well we get what we deserve

[@jmanyoyoyo]

This add reminded me why I unsubscribed from this channel

[@davidspencer7254]

I look forward to seeing Simon forget all this on a Decoding episode in half a years time.

[@the80hdgaming]

Half a year? I figured he'd be more like 3-4 days and it's gone... Like Homer Simpson... "Every time I learn something new, something old gets pushed out of my brain"... 🤣🤣🤣

[@Balrog-tf3bg]

I swear he’s done a video on this already

[@the80hdgaming]

@@Balrog-tf3bg probably done 5 across all his channels tbf... 🤣🤣🤣

[@davidroddini1512]

Heck,that’s better than me. I’ll forget by the end of the video! 😝

[@HDTech22]

He already forgot.

[@jeffsuter344]

Now I am waiting for a buried Stargate to be discovered in Egypt.

[@litigioussociety4249]

I love that episode where the guy builds a single use one in Sam's basement.

[@spencerrichard4304]

@@litigioussociety4249episode number? I loved watching reruns as a kid and have been thinking about watching the show all the way through

[@2020_Visi0n]

Cue SG-1 theme music

[@mikalmos369]

I see I wasn't the only nerd that wanted to leave this comment

[@tiborbogi7457]

I am waiting for MAT1 on the Moon😀

[@paulford9120]

Excellent video but... what scatterbrain dreamed up that fishing commercial?

[@mikal4452]

That device is absolutely mind boggling.

[@2020_Visi0n]

We often assume our historical progress is like a hill, steadily but consistently gaining altitude. When in truth it's more like the waves on a violent ocean, occasionally crashing into the cliffs. Given enough time the cliffs will be eroded as though they never even existed. Only to be replaced by another

[@Gamerzsociaty]

The sad part is that historical progress has always been limited by war. Either a dominant and advanced state gets overthrown by a coalition of smaller states or a smaller state gets annexed into a larger state.

[@Jokerwolf666]

Well we're living in a post-apocalyptic world now clearly

[@janetchennault4385]

A key observation is that this mechanism did not spring, full grown, from the head of Zeus. It implies decades or centuries of knowledge and experimentation with gears and mechanical devices. There are more of them, out there. Somewhere.

[@us3rG]

The royals in those days knew a LOT. It was how they remained royal. Ever wonder if they had magnifying glass?

[@balinthehater8205]

​@@us3rG ... Royals? None of the famous Greek philosophers and thinkers were royals to my knowledge. They were often nobility, yes, but that is a given as that status actually frees up time for studying the world. The point is that none of them ruled a city state.

[@justadad6677]

@@balinthehater8205 Who is to say this knowlegde were in the hands of the wise ones? Royalty have always learned to keep secrets, from the Sunmerians all the way through the Egyptians. Much of the knowledge was kept for priests and the royal only. Imagne how much the Vatican keeps from Humanity, or the royals of Euroe after they plundered the continent.

[@catbevis1644]

Absolutely! One thing that rarely gets mentioned is the gears themselves- producing such fine-toothed, evenly-spaced, interconnecting cogwheels is a skill in itself (in the modern era it held back advances in clockmaking). Whoever made those gears had centuries of knowledge behind them, and I doubt they were invented purely for astronomical devices- there would have been previous uses in simpler devices. Anyone interested in the mechanical geekery, I urge you to look up the movie "Longitude" about the clockmaker John Harrison (available on here), it gives you a real appreciation of just how difficult mechanics were even in the last few hundred years. Retreat those thoughts back two thousand years and it's just mind-blowing.

[@marcpeterson1092]

Or there were.

[@Tophperry]

Clickspring has a series of videos where he makes one using period correct tools and he makes the tools.

[@captiannemo1587]

Clickspring kicks ass

[@duathhadron5040]

I was gonna comment this! For anyone who hasn’t seen his videos, I’d highly recommend them!

[@robwoodring9437]

They are addictive!!!

[@mr_voron]

That series has been going on for 7 years! Granted, he did take a break to publish some research papers on it.

[@DrFiero]

Even makes his own tools from scratch, using only the known materials of the period.

[@Shauma_llama]

"Who made it?" Did everyone think of that guy with the crazy hair going "Aliens!" 😂

[@us3rG]

Everybody knows him as that guy with the crazy hair lol

[@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648]

Aliens would have brought a heliocentric model, though.

[@gmoney4980]

A-hem.... I think you mean "Ancient Alien Astronauts".... 😂😂😂

[@us3rG]

@@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648 not if they know about the human brain, the human brain at the center of everything

[@ldubt4494]

Yes they obviously came all the way to Earth with interstellar travel just to show humans how to build gears. Because humans are stupid, they wouldnt have known how to do it, they were all cavemen back then. (Sarcasm)

[@Rocking_J_Studio]

There's a chap in Australia who is making an Antikythera Mechanism using brass. He makes all of the plates, gears, screws and other parts by hand. He's got a couple of YT channels showing various steps in the creation of his device. His channel is called ClickSpring and both of his channels are well worth watching.

[@sapphiron21]

This really make you appreciate the importance of preserving knowledge, so much progress could have been made in the period between the loss of these inventions and their reinvention centuries later

[@theabristlebroom4378]

Especially when you realize that the math incorporated into this computer was only possible because the Greeks had access to the observational data from the Babalonian observations of the night sky....over hundreds of years!

[@barbthegreat586]

The most important things are not making the knowledge secret and education, transmission of the knowledge to future generations. Educating everybody and writing down the knowledge help, too.

[@stepheng1523]

You literally stuck an animated science graphic in your ad, thats commitment to the bit

[@Hellfr4g]

unfortunately its wrong, there are ways to make the sun last tens of billions of years ever heard the term "star lifting" no? only because u cannot think of a way, doestn´t mean its impossible... a scientist shouldn´t talk in defintits... humanity has not found a way to travel faster than light or go back in time... most likely its impossible, but u dont know there are no black swan, all swans are white.... then ships returned from australia do i get a heart too or will this be hidden :D or just make a video about star lifting lol

[@DaveSlate-q9x]

The ad also had a finger bang joke in it. I laughed, but I have a tasteless sense of humor.

[@mikaylamast4695]

@@DaveSlate-q9xI audibly gasped

[@durk5331]

It really makes you wonder just how much was lost every time the Library of Alexandria was burned down x.x

[@ldubt4494]

Nothing, that wasnt when knowledge was lost, it was the early middle ages, when knowledge became a thing of only monasteries and the uppest of upper classes. Alexandria wasnt the only place with a library, and there would have been copies of all those books anyway in use everywhere. In the early middle ages, which were at different points in time depending on the region, were a period of ignorance, and simpler life, and much of the "unnecesary" old stuff simply found no use to the people and got forgotten or destroyed during the countless wars and raids of that time.

[@durk5331]

​@@ldubt4494 You do realize that the Library of Alexandria was the greatest of the ancient world and was the most important of most of human history. These are facts. At its peak, before the fire in 48 AD, accidentally started by Ceasar, it contained hundreds of thousands of books, including unique texts from the best Greek scientists through History. Its last burning was only 200 years before the start of the Dark Ages, and you could potentially say, it not being rebuilt after this helped create the decline into the Dark Ages >.>

[@ldubt4494]

@@durk5331 No. kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3i7YYqoZbKMl68si=hxixTN6KVPkiLXFV (video by h0ser i just found, no conspiracy or whatnot)

[@ldubt4494]

@@durk5331 No, h0ser for example made a quick video on that. kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3i7YYqoZbKMl68si=hxixTN6KVPkiLXFV

[@ldubt4494]

@@durk5331 theres a video from h0ser about this. The library of alexandria wasnt the only libarary, nor was it as unique as some say. Also it focused on poetry. The last burning was with the arab invasion, and this was probably the only one where it was actually bad.

[@sockMonster241]

Imagine making that thing, 1000 years before it's time and then it SINKS INTO THE OCEAN.

[@us3rG]

Someone definitely got punished

[@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648]

Could it have been carried on the ship as some sort of navigational aid, when (if it's true) good clocks had not yet appeared?

[@timewave02012]

What incredible fortune for us that it did. Sometimes the only artifacts preserved are the ones that were lost.

[@inorogNL]

Imagine all devices that had to be made so one can create this one. Also the tools needed to make such complicated gears...

[@EBDavis111]

Imagine making that thing and it doesn't work. No wonder it ended up in the bottom of the ocean.

[@matthewring8301]

The person that said that it is too complicated and easier methods were possible never thought to put a calculator and a phone and a flashlight in one device.

[@michab4083]

Well, why would anyone want do this? Besides being too complicated and not very useful, such a device would be by far too expensive. I reckon the worldwide market would amount to four or five devices - at maximum. ;-)

[@bobreams5178]

Very good point!

[@moogle68]

I get that you're trying to make a joke, but you do understand that they were essentially refuting an earlier theory on the grounds that the same result was achievable with methods and knowledge known to exist at the time, right? Like, they weren't claiming that the device "couldn't be _that_ complicated," just that the _mechanisms_ used inside the machine to make it work likely didn't involve differential gears (which Simon pointed out wouldn't be seen for another 1600 years), but that the device likely used much simpler gearing/mechanisms that were used at the time it was made in other devices to achieve the same effect that a differential gear would've provided.

[@matthewring8301]

@@michab4083 yes the “market” would have been for the elite only. In the courts of kings most likely. I was talking about technology and innovation not mass production. We only get to see a slice of history never the whole thing so there could only one of them (a prototype?) or dozens. We will never know the answer to that one. As for why? Because rulers what knowledge. Because people are curious. Because someone said “what happens if I do this thing.” Lastly, the fact that this exists means that there is a chance that the stories of other devices might be true, and that makes me happy.

[@billthomas7644]

Not all the ancient Greeks believed in the Geocentric model of the solar system. Aristarchus of Samos was a leading supporter of the Heliocenrtic model

[@JamesDavy2009]

Step aside, Copernicus, Aristarchus spoke of it first.

[@abc-coleaks-info]

The Clickspring channel is recreating the device using period tools. He is working with another team studying the device. He has 12-videos on it so far but he isn’t done yet.

[@robertmansfield7656]

Just caught onto that one

[@eQualizeri]

Came here to say this ☝☝

[@morrigan908]

From all the comments that feel the need to say it over and over, I'm getting a hunch that Clickspring might be building one. Just a wee, nagging thought in the back of my mind.

[@peterclancy3653]

There is a complete video series of clickspring building this machine by hand using the tools available at the time. Up there with the Samson boat company!

[@RealJohnnyAngel]

Glad to see all the Clickspring Rep in the comments. Period tools and methods he makes himself to prove it. Going through the process he made some discoveries that have since been published.

[@markbernier8434]

Published, peer reviewed, and others have also published work on his discovery. Cited in his most recent video.

[@MrMudtit]

Whoever designed and/or built that must have been a genius off the scale. It's a pity that so much has been lost to time.

[@zombiechicken7114]

I love the mixture of knowledge needed for them to understand this. Greek history generally, Greek gods&beliefs, sites of the olympics, astronomy, maths, engineering etc etc. Fabulous stuff. Then the modern inventions needed to see into the corroded device and rebuild it. I wish we always could all cooperate and expand knowledge instead of petty fighting and arguing over beliefs.

[@Heywoodthepeckerwood]

Those of us in the Prokythera camp would disagree.

[@KarlBunker]

😄👍

[@Enyavar1]

The counter-island to Andikythira is just called Kythira, n pro is involved. It's a common naming scheme, there is also Andikeros, Andimilos, Andiparos, Andipaxos... The "Anti-islands" are always the smaller ones right next to the larger whose name they share.

[@QBCPerdition]

As amazing as the Antikythera Mechanism is, it seems to me that it is most likely the end result of iterative invention. A simple invention of a few gears to show the planets in epicycles, refined over time. Then someone decides that they can add another few gears to get the phases of the moon, or maybe a separate device to show the phases of the moon existed, and someone figured out how to combine them. More and more gets added on, and eventually you have a very complex device. So I doubt someone invented the whole mechanism from whole cloth. It was a long process, probably of many people, adding something new and refining each bit to be as exact as possible.

[@feedingravens]

I agree that I in no way would say they cannot possibly have done that. But that what you say is exactly my problem: Engineering is an evolutionary process, it develops step by step. And I see no steps. You would expect to see examples of sheet metal of the flatness that these gears require. You would expect to see super-precise circular cutouts. You could expect e.g. mechanical calculators for merchants. Or devices to calculate your position for navigation Or devices to measure distances And and and... Not of the extreme quality like the Anti-Kythera, but nevertheless an "ey, great, we can calculate mechanically, go for it", Imagine how tedious it was until VERY recently to determine the values for sine, cosine, tangens. Each single value as series expansion. Every single calculation on (precious) paper by hand. In my opinion the Babylonians uses 60 as base because you can divide it by 1,2,3,4,5,6. And 360 you can divide by 1,2,3,4,5,6,8,9- only 7 is missing. A dozen, loved in merchandry, 1,2,3,4,6 A "shock" (i heard that only from eggs in german) - 12 dozen. All traditions from the time when people had to everything with their brains and not with their fingers or by asking Alexa...

[@QBCPerdition]

@feedingravens but we do find simpler things. And they tended to use these only for religious purposes, and may not have realized the use of these for simple calculations. Plus, the time and effort that went into making these may not have lent itself to massnproduction, only making one or two for important shrines/people. So, while they could make thin metal and perfect circles, it was a very tedious exacting practice, so there may not be many examples created, let alone surviving to today.

[@eskanda3434]

@@QBCPerditionfinding this device is equivalent to finding an atomic bomb it was probably very difficult to make at the time and closely guarded secret of the military intelligence of the time. They may have had good reason to keep it secret from their enemies so kept it hidden and only a few existed

[@usergiodmsilva1983PT]

2:24 what is best in life? To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their fishing buddies!

[@sednavaporeon7226]

Ad ends around 3:16

[@MusicalRaichu]

Allan Bromley did his research in the 1980s, not "the early 1900s". He was one of my university professors here in Australia. I helped translate a letter he received from Greece about his itinerary there.

[@playgroundchooser]

It's been mentioned, but a channel named Clickspring is building his own mechanisms. And, he's only using methods that were available to builders of the time. It's absolutely fascinating!!

[@PetesGuide]

Only at 0:25 but I’m really hoping you give a massive shout out to the ClickSpring KZbin channel’s deep hands-on research in building a replica using replica tools that he hand-makes. He’s already published one peer-reviewed paper on the Antikytheria mechanism, and is also from a Commonwealth country.

[@isoufacker]

clickspring is great

[@tomlegge4880]

Yeah, that project is awesome.

[@ProfVaharrak]

HOLY MOLY IS THAT DAVEN??? Its been years since I last heard the TIFO podcasts but I will never forget that voice. So happy to know they're doing well.

[@pioneercynthia1]

Antiquities-themed Mad Libs. I'd play the hell out of that.

[@Jesse-zk9ge]

Man that mechanism is so astounding. Still kind of hard to believe that thing would be practically the equivalent as if I travel back in time and lost my phone in the ancient past. Amazing.

[@dreamking4321]

honestly one of the best ad reads ive ever heard lmao

[@jeffreypeterson8386]

Sorry, who the hell is this guy? Did I miss some announcement where Simon started cooperating with Mr excitement?

[@semaj_5022]

@@jeffreypeterson8386 That's Daven! He's been here on this channel from the start. Producing, writing and occasionally hosting. You can always tell if something was written by him because of the existential dread and pessimistic nihilism sprinkled throughout the script. Like this ad read!

[@FrankOdonnell-ej3hd]

when I first saw this thing I thought it was so cool. It proves once again that the ancients were just as smart as we are despite having much less scientific and technical knowledge. Wonder what new future incredible artifacts we have yet to discover! ⚛😀

[@yugimotobutjacked3231]

No it doesn't. Read an actual paper on it, even just the wikipedia article. This guy is a charlatan.

[@FrankOdonnell-ej3hd]

@@yugimotobutjacked3231 ok will check out the wiki article though it's often not the most reliable source for information about anything. If this machine is just some sort of over-hyped or made up object it's funny how the media keeps talking about its wonders while no one has exposed it as the massive fraud you claim it is.⚛😀

[@Bell.-]

​@@yugimotobutjacked3231You sound dumb.

[@us3rG]

Especially the Greeks where more wiser than most scientists living today

[@balinthehater8205]

​@@yugimotobutjacked3231 Wikipedia backs up what is stated in the video and Simon cited actual research papers as proof of what he said. The people in the classical era people were a lot more advanced that we give them credit for with their knowledge of mathematics, this and various megaprojects like the pyramids of egypt and greek temples of the Mediterranean coast are surviving proof of that.

[@carcj1983]

CLickspring built it and placed it in the past in the time machine he is yet to build.

[@jbuchana]

Over ont the clickspring KZbin channel, Chris is making a working duplicate of the Antikythera mechanism use period-correct tools. Worth checking out!

[@rolanddeschain965]

Been following this since it was still an unidentifiable yet interesting blob it's been eye opening to watch the reactions of the archeologists etc.

[@jasonjuneau2948]

Its crazy that they could build that so long ago. All the engineering and machining that went into it is mind boggling. Pins within grooves within grooves.

[@ZOMBIEHEADSHOTKILLER]

you forgot to mention that ClickSpring is making one from scratch, by hand, with classic style tools.

[@mukulnag1578]

Love the surprise at 12:13 .... Didn't expect that 😅😅

[@tooturtly]

the attachment fell off the clippers and i buzzed a chunk of hair off.. now we're twins! :)

[@Minalkra]

I love the sponsor dude randomly showing up in frames ...

[@justadad6677]

In my Fantasy book the Antikythera Mechanism was used for setting an anchor in time, a magic tool used by the God of Wisdom to extend forward in time, while being anchored to the device. So not a time traveling device, but a device that can rewind time when set and used.

[@stardustypsyche8468]

One of your best presentations, packed with very well laid out detail text and animations.

[@jaymac6041]

Have a good day everybody and a good weekend

[@bobbressi5414]

I have seen numerous pictures of this device and l am still perplexed by how they were able to extrapolate what all of the missing parts were and what they do based on the hunk of metal that they found.

[@bikerdude923]

Math, lots and lots of math. They probably also engaged to some level automatic/mechanical watch makers as many of the gearing principles are very similar to what is still used today for some watch complications. Complications are the extra functions that a mechanical clock might have, such as 24hr hands, day, date, month, year, leap year, moonphases, alarms, zodiac calenders (rare and very expensive), chronographs, chronograph totalizers (tracks, fractions of seconds, min, and hours, for the chronograph), main spring power reserves, and many others I am forgetting.

[@jliller]

@@bikerdude923 Probably testing and discarding a lot of failed theories too.

[@the_mister_magister]

12:13 jumpscare

[@balinthehater8205]

Yeah, wtf was that?

[@gennystout8952]

Damnit Davin 😂😂😂😂😂

[@religionoffreedom]

It was for traveling outside Earth, using the stars to coordinate which direction to go, depending on where you’re headed.

[@xaulted1]

It's truly amazing what a human mind can accomplish when it's not staring blankly at a phone 24/7.

[@philipmcdonagh1094]

Since the dawn of an the human brain has been getting bigger until lets say 2000. We are now getting stupider by the simple act of not exercising our brains the way we used to. No need to remember anything today, its all in the cloud or on the phone, the simple art of remembering a phone No or an address now gone.

[@liquidrockaquatics3900]

Is it coincidence that Halley’s Comet has a 75-76 year orbit and we see the number 76 keeps repeating?

[@rayfunk5659]

Fishing Clash commercial was interrupted by KZbin commercials. Guess it was inevitable.

[@jrcat2258]

I started watching while doing something else and after three minutes I got really confused, I thought I'd clicked on a fishing video... why are ads 2 minutes these days?

[@joeyr7294]

Drives me insane!!! I get so annoyed when I'm trying to go to sleep and I'm kinda listening, get good and comfortable.....5 minute ad pops up talking about how to become a self made millionaire. Like, at what point is it no longer a ad but a damn paid programming infomercial like the ones that use to come on after 2am on cable tv lol

[@philipmcdonagh1094]

Their called adumentary's .

[@judyfps5059]

It’s called being a shill with zero integrity. If you wanna watch people with better morals, watch Fact Fiend. They don’t take shitty mobile game sponsorships, and Karl used to write for this channels website.

[@mikemcconeghy4658]

Fascinating! Learned about astronomy and history in this one.

[@dereks1264]

Yeah, but it can't make coffee at a specified time so you can wake up to a fresh cuppa. Seriously, though, as Simon points out, you can't help but ponder what other amazing things the ancients made that have been lost in the intervening centuries between now and then.

[@classic.cameras]

The fact some one made this and made probably many others is mind blowing. Perhaps this inventor was drown on this ship wreck with his device and had he not may have invented the first computer 2000+ years ago. Its just absolutely insane to wonder.

[@balinthehater8205]

I think it's likely that this isn't a unique piece, this sounds way too important for religious purposes for cultures that think the planets are embodiments of their gods. I would hazard a guess that the original crafter crafted a few and maybe trained a few apprentices as things went back then but eventually the knowledge was lost and the fancy mechanisms either sold, lost or smelted down during the troubled times of the region. It has been thousands of years, the fact that we were able to even find one defies the odds, it would be even more ridiculous if it had been unique in its time.

[@fuffoon]

It couldn't make phone calls, crunch numbers, show videos, manage your budget, or the other million things the tablet I'm watching this on. Don't knock the genius of our era. Genius and creativity are growing exponentially

[@sternencolonel7328]

I have to disagree, there are only 3 Indy Movies

[@Nikoxion]

Wish there was some visual quides / examples of the mechanisms mentioned as I found myself getting lost with the terminology on this one

[@darubicon1501]

About four years ago I found an accurate full motion GIF of the first year cycle of the mechanism. I downloaded it and used it as a face for my smartwatch, but I still need to check my phone for the time and date!

[@raydunn2688]

Excellent summary of decoding to date of this incredible artifact.

[@markmuldoon805]

Brilliant presentation of the history of what should be regarded as the most amazing analogue computers of all time.

[@akrita81]

I am trying to imagine Archimides reaction to Flat Earthers.

[@JoelVogt1972]

Who is the guy who flashes on screen at 12:13?

[@ADHD.Penguin]

Most abrasive ad read transition 😂 trying to fall asleep to Simon's consistent narration not whatever that fishing app ad was

[@MWhaleK]

The Greeks or at least some Greeks were aware that the earth goes around the sun and they had roughly calculated the diameter of the earth.

[@Michael75579]

It's difficult to be sure exactly how accurate Eratosthenes' figure was since we're not sure of the exact size of the units he was using, but on reasonable assumptions for their size he was between -2.4% and +0.8% of the current value. Pretty impressive for a man with a stick 😀

[@Willy_Tepes]

People back then had lots of spare time to stare at the stars and calculate the movements of heavenly bodies. They knew more than we give them credit for. Many of their calendars and astronomical treaties were highly accurate. The Mayans and Chinese also had vast knowledge of these things. Calculating the diameter of the Earth is a fairly trivial thing that you can do with a stick.

[@codedinfortran]

Hey Simon (& co) I've been watching/reading everything I could find about the Antikythera device for years. You and your writers do such a good job on topics I know, that it gives you great credibility whenever you're telling me about something new.👍🏻 And I don't actually care that Simon has forgotten most of it by the time he gets home to his kids. One of us learned something new!😉 Well read, Simon! And well written, team.👏🏻

[@KarlRoyale]

The mechanism itself is mind blowing but for me the other aspect that blows my mind is this is PROOF of how little we understand about our history. If we can "forget" knowledge like this what else do we simply have no concept of?

[@karenshadle365]

Lots, I would imagine...

[@iNCoMpeTeNtplAyS]

That's why free public education is important. It would be a shame if the greatest mind ever was some child of a poor farmer who, by birth, has to choose to help the family farm than go to school.

[@kandreasworld4374]

There is a subliminal frame of David at 12:10. 🤔

[@LadyValkyri]

I've been waiting for this one for a while now. Thanks, guys! Hugs

[@Astrologon]

Great summary of the facts, it's just strange to me from a scholarly perspective that literally no one who has studied this artifact or reported on it in official capacity has ever even mentioned the word "astrology", which almost certainly must have had a lot to do with the purpose of such a device. After all, the ancients didn't need calculations this precise for just determining when to have holidays, and they obviously had no space program.

[@erikkornfeld785]

Did anyone else wonder what he was on about about halfway through the ad read for Fishing clash? I'm treating this as a podcast while I am doing chores and it got weird.

[@adamloverin4125]

19:18 Gloves are cool.

[@steve4296fred]

Saw this in the museum in Athens a few years back - quite mind blowing when I saw it

[@paulromsky9527]

At 7:48 in the US, we pronounce "sidereal" as Si-deer'-e-al

[@ConorFenlon]

What if Clickspring Chris is a time traveler, and he knows so much about the mechanism because he made the only one, right in front of our eyes, and then he eventually sends it back knowing full well that he'll figure it out in tune future.

[@Jayjay-qe6um]

On 8 February 2024, a 10X scale replica of the mechanism was built, installed, and inaugurated at the University of Sonora in Hermosillo, Sonora, Mexico. With the name of Monumental Antikythera Mechanism for Hermosillo (MAMH), Dr. Alfonso performed the inauguration. Durazo Montano, Governor of Sonora and Dr. Maria Rita Plancarte Martinez, Chancellor of the Universidad de Sonora. The Ambassador of Greece, Mr. Nikoloas Koutrokois, and a delegation from the Embassy.

[@st.anselmsfire3547]

Can we take a second and note that a dude built this thing with his bare hands and sketching the numbers on parchment with a reed? No computers. No other devices. Just his brain and skills.

[@richardhall5489]

Surely this is another unprovable assumption. If they could have built this then it might be fair to assume that other similar technology was available.

[@sgholt]

I think it was a way to chart the stars and planets...much like many other devices at the time.

[@TheBS1000]

12:13 that split second reappearance of the guy who did the ad spot was creepy.

[@Zeldaschampion]

What's up with the random screens of Daven popping up throughout the video?

[@Baldevi]

Hi Daven! 👋 I love this video, I've been trying to convince a few lazy people that the Antikythera Mechanism is simply a Calendar-Caluclator and Planetarium-type device. They are ALL wanting to research how it can move them through Time, because the Movie claims that this is what it is for. Come ON. Sharing to them ALL.

[@whafrog]

Just building the moulds to get the gears right and so precisely and evenly spaced is a marvel in its own right.

[@frankieromnimon5898]

Actually, the gear teeth were hand-cut using thin steel files. The maker was starting from circular blanks made of brass sheet. I kid you not.

[@whafrog]

@@frankieromnimon5898 that is crazy to contemplate...imagine going around the circle and realizing you've left the tiniest gap...

[@BoDiddle-ik1cg]

Best in vid ad I've seen in memory.

[@richardmiller9883]

How many mechanisms were melted down for cannon?

[@kaldogorath]

The Antikythera Mechanism is used to predict when Simon will release videos on the Antikythera Mechanism.

[@fullspectrumalchemist]

I had a dream of testing that mechanism with beetle technology (cavity Structural effect) time dilation based of the spectrum interaction or reduction of interaction of the molecules that make us up. Theory is Zeus and Hermes and all used it to fly and change time with in radius and would explain what they defined as under world 😉

[@kirbymarchbarcena]

I am amazed that the ancient romans have the technology to accurately mold those tiny gears and parts.

[@gwcstudio]

Lost wax process is remarkably precise. But the first precision machines' leadscrews were mostly hand cut with files. That's almost more mind blowing.

[@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648]

@@gwcstudio yes, I'd believe that gear blanks were molded and then marked and then filed tooth by tooth

[@frankieromnimon5898]

The Romans were not big on this kind of technology. This is Greek science and tech. from concept to realization.

[@frankieromnimon5898]

@@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648 The blanks were probably cut from brass sheet stock, using a lathe. Lathes are an extremely old invention: There is an egyptian picture of two people working on a foot-powered lathe that is almost 3000 yrs old.

[@jeremiahlyleseditor437]

Great Video. You really stuck to the hard facts, where they could be found. After viewing other videos about ancient objects, either structures or functional inventions, is there any possibility that this item was faked as some other videos in other places suggest for certain items?

[@SkynyLyny]

“All of this has happened before. All of this will happen again.”

[@Yaxchilan]

16:29 you ment Apogee

[@h-j.k.8971]

A huge amount of knoweledge has been lost to mankind, today we view someone who builds a mere recreation of this as a genious.

[@bonibroco1076]

7:44 "Sidereal" ...I've heard it mispronounced so many times but I never expected Simon to get it wrong too.

[@Nomad77ca]

I always imagine an ancient Greek or Roman watching one of our documentaries about them and saying "No, we knew that, how dumb do you think we were??"

[@jvin248]

If the wreck was full of statues and artwork destined for a wealthy collector .. an antique historical measurement device should also be included in such a collection. The Antikythera Mechanism is likely very much older than the ship era. .. There is a reason ancient cultures were so very interested in tracking the moon and planets accurately, just like we have the NOAA Space Weather Enthusiasts site that tracks Solar activity -- there is danger up there. Ref Carrington Event, Younger Dryas, Micronova. .. Would the Antikythera Mechansim fit in a "handbag" like that depicted on monuments around the globe?

[@Fleato]

It’s always my favorite when they see something like this and go “look they had giant clocks mechanisms, they were more advanced than us!” Yup…. We don’t have clockwork.

[@semaj_5022]

The sentiment is generally "they were more advanced than we give them credit for," not "they were more advanced than us." People underestimate ancient/bronze age humanity, which is sad. We'd have nothing today if it weren't for the innovations of bygone eras.

[@MarvinV180]

😂😂😂😂 Daven that AD Spot Savage!!!

[@jakemeyer8188]

Is Simon using the position of his microphone as the main differentiator between this and other WhistlerVerse videos? I like the sound better when he has it close. It's too hollow when at distance.

[@j.lietka9406]

I tend to think that the mechanism is not as old as the boat. It may have been from the 1700s or 1800s. Could a similar device - more accurate - be built to-day?

[@michaeljames5936]

The lack of an industrial revolution in ancient Greece, is a great example of the importance of materials science. Without the means to produce quality steel, just inventing the steam engine (as they sort-of did.) couldn't go anywhere, same for railways. Apparently the printing press couldn't have been created successfully by the Romans, or Greeks, or indeed Chinese, because it relied on the latest breakthroughs in steel manufacture to produce a typeface that would keep its crisp edges after repeated use.

[@mickmccrory8534]

If you know the time difference between when a celestial event happens where you are vs. when it happens at home, you can determine longitude, 2000 years before Harrison's clock.

[@zollen123]

I am equally shocked the ancient Greeks didn't apply the knowledge of this mechanism and this level of engineering to other areas of developments in their society.