What do Hong Kongers think of Malaysian Cars? Proton Persona 1.6 CVT Review | Flat Out Review

[@flatout852]

觀眾們，你哋又有冇接觸過「馬拉國產車」？歡迎留言交流意見💁🏻‍♂️

[@aceforever28]

Bufori

[@samtam4958]

平民車…實用為主，有錢嘅華人多數買進口車。例如四驅Toyota,Ford Ranger...。有揸過好似叫Mira

[@benleung2253]

20多年前第一接觸仲係新車，過減速帶上下彈跳嚴重，仲撞到車底。

[@madlau3316]

稱呼馬來西亞可以用大馬，希望你哋尊重馬來西亞人，不應該用“馬拉”！

[@benleung2253]

@@madlau3316 請你尊重香港人叫馬來西亞做馬拉，因為我哋從來都係咁叫，就算我啲馬拉親戚朋友佢哋都係咁叫，有乜問題呢！

[@jerrypoon5993]

肥to個安全帶越嚟越界波🫣

[@flatout852]

知你哋鍾意睇

[@oranchung]

真空微乳慎入

[@kuanchun923]

來自馬來西亞既subscriber, 雖然係好耐之前既片，但係都要同你地講唔好意思。你地咁用心介紹馬來西亞國產車，做咗唔少既research而且有好多好既評價，反而惹來好多批評，好多人都冇乜包容既心，希望你地唔好在意。 支持你地既觀眾係會明白你地只係唔夠了解我地既文化，同樣地我地都會唔夠了解香港文化。希望可以繼續睇到開心既肥To，亦都希望以後瘦To有機會返嚟拍片，即使只係客串性質。

[@kennychan8886]

看到香港人讲评我们的Proton, 多少有点开心。希望下次flatout来到马来西亚时办个小小的粉丝见面会吧，肯定可以变成车聚哈哈

[@lskei1]

好開心喺福建蝦麵見到你哋，我去買手信給你們，轉頭返到鋪頭你哋已經走咗。你們再來檳城時，希望再見到你哋啦！

[@flatout852]

有心啦，祝你哋喺馬拉生活愉快

[@africanunited4168]

大多数马来西亚人年轻人的第一辆车就是Proton Saga 和Perodua Axia, 因为价钱便宜也非常亲民

[@alexkehalexis]

兩位Toby你地好，小弟係馬拉人。 我由以前你地響《蘋果》已經開始睇你地介紹車。 但我有少少意見😂 第一，Proton Persona絕對稱唔上係國民車🤣 真正國民車其實係Perodua嘅Axia同埋Myvi。尤其是Myvi，佢有國民鋼砲之美譽😂 第二，Naza佢其實唔算係車廠，所以我地都無當佢係第三國產車品牌，但佢的確有自己嘅造車廠，但佢嘅車都係貼牌外國品牌居多，而佢主要業務係代理外國車入口。

[@nancyto1929]

myvi is the best

[@mingli9563]

Forget about them. They are full of discrimination crap.

[@Jky_-tk4dd]

爲什麽 proton persona 稱不上國名車？

[@alexkehalexis]

@@Jky_-tk4dd 你好，對馬拉人嚟講，Myvi同Axia銷量比起Persona高出好多好多，個比例係，幾乎你去到每一條街都見到。

[@madlau3316]

馬來西亞生活嘅華人會叫自己爲大馬人，而唔係馬拉人，如果你真係馬來西亞人又點會唔知？

[@tsong9311]

兩位靚仔有機會一定要試駕proton昔日最強小鋼砲Satria GTi，正宗Lotus式操控配1800cc三菱自然吸氣引擎，但要找到車況良好的已經很少

[@Kelvin.J]

终于有海外媒体试驾persona.我本身也是驾这代的persona. 这个价位根驾驶感真的没什么可挑

[@wongjiahorng1277]

你拿的是入门版，而且还是改版前的，新版是thunder cat logo ，brake 有改善没酱虚

[@chanboonkeng2]

Persona 2022版本有大大的改變提升，蹋油反應也好很多，外觀內觀都有寫變化

[@liepilot]

香港有巴士車身廠，雖然而家香港D雙層巴士有部份係馬拉砌嘅

[@taxes6921]

welcome to malaysia🇲🇾,你们讲得好好

[@良良-m8n]

你們分析的很厲害，而且很幽默風趣。加油加油

[@solothui2077]

我系persona 2022的车主，对你的评价是赞同！

[@foocheewei7560]

香港人好犀利 當年港產片 溫兆倫在戲中話搭火車上金馬倫山 今時今日 呢兩條友 话開車過沙巴 好犀利 居然可以揸架persona踩過海😅

[@treasonweichng4510]

大马Perodua Myvi的发音是 "麦V",不是"米V"

[@jasonwong3301]

我驾的就是你现在测试的这款pre-facelift的，除了高速rpm比较高这个缺点，其他的算还可以。底盘很厚实，驾驶感受很不错，过减速带没有明显的跳动，这个价钱已经算是便宜好用的车子了。

[@moongal3510]

其實馬來西亞local用嘅short form係大馬，馬來人指的係馬來種族。大馬係多元文化國家，馬來人居多，其次有華人，仲有印度人和其他原住民族。

[@sergelee1879]

條安全帶度有打日期嘅，不過都係大概果時期。再唔係就頭燈度張貼紙

[@nancyto1929]

馬拉點解唔crossover Hee Wai Seng😅

[@DSK1026]

7:54 個部銀色車係KIA既第一代morning 後期（2010車 1100cc) 我都玩過一年😂尾箱細到hi hi

[@chaiminhua7727]

FYI, the reason why small sedan is popular in Malaysia is because of our Govt duty system. If not, we would all be driving 300+ bhp car at least

[@stevenknight95]

you dont need 300hp car unless you want to race, around 100hp car is enough to everyday driving and fuel efficient.

[@kokliangchew3609]

Prior to the introduction of the national car project in the 1980s, cars were relatively cheap, mainly imported, and we used to drive cars which were 2 liters or more. The most popular luxury car in the 1970s was the Mercedes S280, a 2.8 liter engine. My dad had the Colt Galant 2 litre, which was a rebadged Mitsubishi Lancer, and the car that became the Proton Saga. To be blunt, the first 1.5 litre Proton Saga was an inferior copy of the Colt Galant. But by the time that was introduced around the mid 1980s, the Colt Galant had been priced out by the new taxes. Because of the Proton project, Mahathir imposed 200% import tax on cars, and hiked up the road tax for large engines. This was to give the below 2 litre Proton a better differential in pricing. Everything was done to make Proton a success. Imported cars were squeezed out. The irony is that in the later 2000s, Proton had to pay a fine of a few thousand to Thailand for every Proton. This was because of the introduction of the ASEAN free trade zone for ASEAN built cars. Many car companies had chose Thailand (Ford, Japanese) to built their cars for export to ASEAN and Australian market. ASEAN built cars were supposed to enter Malaysia without any higher tax than those taxed on Proton cars. But Malaysia insisted on keeping the tax differential to protect Proton. So they had to pay a fine for every Proton sold in Malaysia to Thailand. Genius!

[@edwardcjw]

echo sedan在馬拉跟泰國的姐妹車型是初代vios, 我在馬拉就是開著初代vios, 同樣搭載1.5的1NZ-FE

[@cirruscanton8119]

几时试FL5 我要睇你地试FL5 或者GR corolla

[@eddiemartin]

我見馬拉人玩 Saga 可以改得好型 我鍾意舊款 Saga

[@egggorgor]

歡迎來到馬來西亞… 希望你們可以解說更多的馬來西亞車 如 Iriz，myvi，Axia saga 等等… 溫馨提醒：可以的話稱我們為 「大馬人」instead of 「馬拉人」謝謝。🙏🏻 旅途愉快

[@garriethkwong7130]

Myvi 不是mee-vee/mi-vee，是You're 'my' love的 ‘my’-vee 啊 🤣🤣

[@Sing_Jai]

佢呢隻punch cvt係行極力子，所以起圍幾好力

[@YHNG-e8n]

我上星期去完馬拉就係揸PERSONA，不過係舊版，個ECO MODE好正，行南北通道來回檳城同KL都未CHUR哂缸油，不過隔音麻麻。

[@flatout852]

隔音喺呢個價位預咗麻麻哋

[@takleung8610]

厲害，做足功課👍

[@lazypapa]

補充，睇車牌，部車應該係 2019 年 近年尾左右

[@philipchoynb]

其實任何Proton或Perodua的車款都可以稱得上馬來西亞國民車，絕對是當之無愧的！只不過是現今在我們國內有些人民更喜歡Perodua Myvi，所以它的銷量就遠遠高過其它國產車，也造就在我們馬來西亞通街都是Myvi，同時也發生各種大大小小的交通事故都會有Myvi的身影，久而久之，Myvi就被稱為我們馬來西亞的國民神車了！

[@K0Y0I_sis]

Myvi本身副機（2NR－FE）已經大一碼，加埋車主十個有九個都唔要命淨係識踱油，吾成國民神車都幾難下。。。第二代搬埋副YRV K3DET落去直頭曉飛啦，問你死未？！（當然本人不建議似極度不負曾任及危險嘅組合）

[@chuatuanhean2435]

13:26 可能“有D”亲戚住在吉隆坡，沙巴。 是的，只要空着Personal 510L 的大车尾箱，车就能浮在海上，从吉隆坡渡海到沙巴了😂😂😂

[@nicholasleow7191]

我之前那部車是上一代的Proton persona 反而我覺得上一代比較好 其實proton campro engine 都是用欧洲技术

[@benleung2253]

馬拉車以前英國都有賣，不過劣評如潮，重衰過Romania啲車，依家就唔知仲有冇得賣，而Romania Dacia啲車就越做越好價錢又平，睇吓部Jogger，Duster等等 就知道。

[@yuchungman]

當年jeremy clarkson出鎚打Poudua仲歷歷在目

[@benleung2253]

@@yuchungman 我都有睇過條片，都幾過癮🤣🤣

[@simonng7129]

一般情況下，係沙巴揸唔到車去吉隆坡，因為中間有好大個南中國海，相隔估有2千幾公里

[@Rezavin]

Toto 你地下次去可以crossover tai choo yee 同 hee wei seng, manual is the best!

[@cyban85]

仲有 愛的人 Aderen Lim

[@roxy2022fax]

期待試神車myvi 呀!!!!

[@raymondchow3265]

我從香港移居咗大馬3年都係入myvi, 貪佢夠平,個樣又唔太差

[@asiamatthew]

大馬神車， ＭＹＶＩ　可以走到200幾， 犀利

[@fraeck]

Hopefully you can review Perodua Myvi, Axia and Bezza in the future.

[@philipchoynb]

Now the latest Proton SAGA ( 2019 - Present ) is the best!

[@philipchoynb]

This model of Persona (MC1) first release since 2019

[@Winston3889]

欢迎来到马来西亚！

[@dache.henrylee]

一定要試埋Myvi

[@YW__-ed5rr]

这台看车牌应该是2019下半年的车

[@4L4N.L.]

Support 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼

[@多摩斯瀚]

冇港到proton waja

[@ljanhong]

未睇先like

[@flatout852]

馬拉朋友？

[@ljanhong]

@@flatout852 正是

[@Rekaus]

讲解的很好，建议你们用gimbal 来拍片 我看了很晕。还有马来西亚叫 大马 不是叫什么马啦 听起来很刺耳。

[@kwchow7960]

事实是，卖给吉利后，Persona这种针对大马本地市场开发的车款应该没有后续了。且驾且珍惜。 +两位主持相当客观 +原来Uncle红到海外

[@jamestankiahou]

請問你試車地方是在檳城島內？因為看那個場景很面熟。而且我住在檳城，所以很有影像這個區域。

[@KokFunYap]

淋有型？

[@hausever1226]

要体验大马车，非国民跑车myvi lagi best 莫属。

[@wilsonyg]

What happen with North America trip part 2 ?

[@Hong2020]

在这里，我们很多收入不高的人会买我们的国产车，其中一个原因是外国车的税高很多～

[@Melvinlee1980]

Matt哥把聲原來係咁😌

[@Kelvin.J]

17:31 其实这代MC2是2019年生产至2022

[@j4ck.s.816]

勁喎試埋啲極冷門嘅車

[@weihenlim6661]

try perodua myvi 2022 👍

[@johnchong5774]

Proton 八九十年代初创时，其实由内而外都跟三菱同种车系几乎一模一样，因为其实三菱就是它的partner.而现在就已属吉利。我们对车的文化没有像两位说的那么高，很多马来仔（本地土族）可能钱不够用，只好拿款式老旧的proton 来改装成街头战士的模样。因为对外国车，尤其是豪华品牌课税非常重，所以一般上在路上所见的名牌车，大多数是从英国或日本进口的翻新货（这里称之为recond, 意即reconditioned)。对于相当大部份的马来西亚人来说，所谓的马来国产车并非是什么值得骄傲的事，就比如你们试驾的Proton 而言，三十多年来都不知道亏了国库多少十亿来填补，品质却生番薯，直到中国吉利收购为止！而另一个跟日本Daihatsu 有关联的“国产” - Perodua 可能情况较好。广东谚语“唔甘大个头，却想戴甘大顶给帽”，就是对马来西亚政府最好的形容！

[@K0Y0I_sis]

呢句话都好適合用於啲格硬充四火downsized難民spec易手水貨歐羅車跳樓盤啲中下階華人用。我哋由90年代落盡正廠件到今日 幾乎每部 "豪华"車都裝住充貨架包圍，連鮑魚夾哋安全性能件都寧願充Brembo made in China，真正唔夠錢用，日日計餿數嘅喺佢哋正啱。最少人哋“马来仔”買唔起都唔曉充，件件都堅嘢。吾係“我哋对车的文化没有像两位说的那么高崇”，係呢位阿生你唔識啫。 70年代就Alfa，MG，Austin Healey，Truimph同【得勝】Triple S ，到Yamaha機器盛行時哨牙仔同AE就玩唔起啦，但KP同KE Corolla短軸式橋跑都仲有嘅。到咗80年度末 【子彈仔】，【斬尾】同【大電視】啲大細TEC，GTZSC，廿嘩佬又咪係華人帶頭改先？90年代就吾洗講啦。所以所謂嘅 “街头战士”係真抽得嘅，因為真正追求駕駛樂趣嘅人係唔會同你講品牌型象咁膚淺。正是因為呢度對嚴證嘅規例寬鬆，容許咗好多機器容量比車身容納度大几碼嘅配合輕鬆到出到牌合法上到街。

[@kokliangchew3609]

The main reason for the proliferation of Proton cars in Malaysia was due to the tax regime which favoured Proton cars and slapped a 200% import tax on imported cars from the 1980s onwards with the formation of the national Proton car industry. That was lowered over the years but the tax regime still favours Proton. Further, despite the ASEAN economic integration measures which only allows a minimum tax on imported products from fellow ASEAN nations, the tax regime was not changed much leading to the Malaysian government paying a few thousand Ringgit Malaysia to Thailand for every Proton car unit which is sold in Malaysia. Thailand has the largest automobile car assembly and production lines in South East Asia, and it had been expected by Thailand that they would be to flood Malaysia which Thai made cars (but of European and Japanese marques) after the economic integration. However, as Malaysia refused to bend their tax regime, they ended paying the fine for every Proton car sold in Malaysia to Thailand. Not many Malaysians know this because it was not well publicised in Malaysia for obvious reasons.

[@elile1120]

可唔可以介紹penang食咗咩

[@DevilMayCryy007]

講得好啱呀，馬來西亞冇車真係幾唔方便，公交都冇香港發展得咁好，多數都係需要部車仔代步，有齊基本設施又平就係國產車了。。。

[@africanunited4168]

吉隆坡的交通系统已经发展到很不错了，有Mrt, Lrt等等， 只是因为很多人为了爱面子或方便所以才会买车代步，只是乡村郊外地区交通就非常不方便，那边就需要一辆车来代步

[@Laumache]

冇咗bob叔ending😫

[@ccc210ccc6]

我地吾叫uncle，我地叫滴老耶做老坑，列如：过个老杭好柒烦🤣

[@yuchungman]

咁究竟佢冷氣有幾勁？

[@pcy1985]

Myvi 是 My Vehicle 的縮寫。

[@PlckyShaw]

部车机好似大陆后改安卓大屏的mould🤣

[@kennylam777]

其實部Proton幾正，車機直接用Double DIN 7"，應該好易裝3rd party車機，玩夠十年都仲有得平玩Android Auto/Apple Play。

[@joerover]

🧒👦哈！兩條友玩到去馬拉！講真出租車又係呢D熱帶地，算係"喜出望外"喎！我就覺得好過早年"韓仔"車！車價平有冇問首次稅先？自己可以生產車自已用，一來可以帶動大量工作當地！同美國一樣，9成代步家庭為主！唯一點解唔見"林明禎"女神出現？

[@swtsoi6971]

車價唔應該同香港比 應該同日本本土入門車比(大家都唔會有入口稅）

[@Sckkk]

Proton perodua Td2000 bufori

[@philipchoynb]

The pronunciation of "Myvi" is as "My" - "V" not "Me" - "V"

[@beforeHKG1997]

車齡要睇安全帶

[@Melvinlee1980]

Tutu拉手掣嗰吓😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@KokFunYap]

2019年車

[@chankampoh8619]

4款，踵有一款叫perdana。

[@botakzhai]

Welcome to Malaysia.

[@maoren72227]

myvi係叫做 埋v ……😂😂

[@ricchrono5907]

Enjoy your trip at Malaysia

[@darrenlim5112]

perodua其實係大發Dfriend來嘅

[@jinhoongleong7882]

Go to sabah needs to take ✈️. You can not drive there from West malaysia.

[@lazypapa]

冇揸我地嘅國民跑車 Myvi , 真係一大缺陷啊~

[@flatout852]

租車公司沒有Myvi啊

[@lazypapa]

@@flatout852 我衰，冇跟到你地 ig , 咪就可以借我個部俾你地拍

[@flatout852]

@@lazypapa 下次啦，我哋會再嚟馬來西亞玩的

[@lazypapa]

@@flatout852 好嘅

[@tanks5261]

These 2 hongkonger uncles very unique pronunciation slang on Myvi became MeVi 😅

[@Jacker]

Myvi 才是国名车 马来西亚最多的，

[@老污龟-v6c]

这款车在马来销量很少

[@leicalung6931]

👍👍

[@keithkeat9859]

其实persona还好，马来 king of the road , perodua myvi 才是销量no.1

[@keewoeiliang6676]

翻車也是最高

[@mauriciodiuleilomo7293]

夠唔夠囡打油？

[@flatout852]

100溝俾得起

[@ChannelPASM]

Saga的士新車好好力

[@kraymond2771]

Proton 仲有本田魂, 有出過accord款嘅車

[@king20a6]

有三菱有雨燕有bmw有honda....... 😟

[@king20a6]

有雪铁龙...

[@king20a6]

系晕 唔系 魂

[@terrencethai]

myvi 'my'vi 不是 mivi

[@IvanSteward]

下次旅行團去日本試日本國民神車

[@wongrichard321]

Sabah?

[@lccf49]

這個價錢，這樣的車是好正常，無什麼好彈。

[@eddiehun4255]

First and foremost, welcome to Malaysia. Below are some reason why you see so many Local car 1. Thanks but no thanks on the Government protectionism toward Proton and Perodua that push to non-National car price to higher mark 2. Quality Proton (specifically) not so so good (everyone owner will tell you). Famous with power window failure. 3. There is no more National car for Malaysian, as Proton acquired by Geely and Perodua majority stakeholder is Daihatsu (therefore no Daihatsu car in Malaysia) 4. If compare the car price of P&P locally with Japan, our car prices still expansive. 5. Car displacement that below 2000cc is well acceptable due to road tax. 6. Foreign new CBU car price tax around 150% to 300% tax and duty. While local foreign CKD slight cheaper but quality is compromise like Honda 7. You need an AP in order to import new or used car to Malaysia. This is not applicable for most Malaysian but control by few AP mogul. No like Hong Kong can freely import used car from Japan. 8. Malaysian also fondly on Recondition car (used import car from Japan or UK), since the price is far cheaper than new car. This most applicable to luxury or non-selling model in Malaysia. Hope this give you some background. Those Malaysian if have more budget their will go for Honda and Toyota.

[@seanhew]

應該叫 my-vi

[@protekhk]

Myvi.......correct pronounce is My V

[@pinlao6671]

國民神車