WHAT DO THEY MEAN?! Understanding Arc'teryx Gore-tex Hardshells

[@ImMata]

My man is definitely wearing a shell while recording this

[@pinkrz6055]

Fs

[@julienbo]

Finally a video explaining Arcteryx jackets to rule them all!

[@elliotross]

would love to see a 2022 version as they have added more jackets

[@erebrblosh]

Definitely the very best video I’ve ever seen on whole Internet explaining and describing jackets. THIS IS the video, which all brands should have. They should pay you for this ! THANKS 👍

[@abearsmind]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@MobileAura]

Wow the music was driving me insane, didn’t know where it was coming from 😆 great video

[@Em_Dee_Aitch]

Very informative, thank you. I’m still probably going with the Patagonia Triolet for rugged canoe tripping.

[@abearsmind]

Glad it was helpful!

[@MindfulProgramming]

I've finally found the brand just for me, Arcteryx Sigma.

[@IgorPoloz]

would love to see a 2024 version )

[@chriskowynia5003]

Best video on the topic

[@user-um3fx2vk8r]

There’s a new model, the Sabre SV. It’s their new flagship ski shell I believe. It uses the gore Tex pro N100d all over

[@abearsmind]

Yes, Arc'teryx has also been transitioning to a new naming scheme for over a year now but somehow is incomplete in the process.

[@nunoimatters191]

I feel like you need a masters degree to know which one is best

[@davidgrenier3117]

A little late but what would you recommend for skiing/winter sports but also rainy weather and everyday use?

[@abearsmind]

Depending on your durability needs, any of the Beta series will serve you well!

[@bykenny4378]

I’m looking to buy my first arcteryxxx peace and I live in nyc. Since winter is crazy here and it rains snows winds crazy I’m Looking to buy the zeta ar from the outlet ! Thoughts ? You might agree or disagree ! Thanks !

[@rumham315]

get a litty artceryx jacket for sure

[@TnagarBrothers]

Very good explanation - Thanks very much 😊

[@elliotross]

super well done vid!

[@BobGnarly420]

So im going to be buying a rab down jacket but now reslise i need a waterproof coat so figured out which one ima save for. The alpha sv! Just 700 short ahhshs

[@abearsmind]

Do you climb a lot? The Beta SV might be a better option.

[@terrellruffin2031]

Very informative video, thank you!

[@abearsmind]

Glad it was helpful!

[@tofulee5706]

You missed the Beta LT

[@CW0123]

Lol I literally went over their entire website reading about all their jackets/hoodies/parkas. I came away with a few ones I like but geez it was kind of annoying deciding between LT or AR 😅

[@abearsmind]

LT is almost the most logical choice. AR would be a buy once and forget it kinda deal IMO.

[@miloleuenberger8313]

Mann i love you thanks so much

[@Fun_Dealer]

Currently stuck between the beta AR and the Alpha SL. They are both very different but reading reviews from outdoorgearlab the Alpha SL seems to outperform the Beta in every aspect with the exception of the beta being a tad more durable. I want to use my hard shell in all weather conditions, for running, for climbing but also for hill walking and camping. I want it to last years and years. Currently stuck on which to get. The Alpha SL seems like the one to buy but I’m worried about durability. It’s been the outdoor gearlabs top jacket for 8 years running so that’s what’s persuading me at the moment. What are your thoughts? It seems strange that I’m comparing these two!!

[@abearsmind]

Beta AR will probably fit your use cases better if you can get along with the drop hood. Alpha SL is a specialized piece that was designed for climbing/alpinism, unless you can live with the single chest pocket. I would pick the Alpha SL over Beta AR if my primary use was active use only.

[@Fun_Dealer]

@@abearsmind I see thank you for the reply. Maybe the Beta LT is a good inbetween? Or will this have poor durability?

[@abearsmind]

@@Fun_Dealer The Beta LT will stand up to your regular day to day use and outdoor usage as long as you're not bushwhacking or rubbing on coarse surfaces all the time (rocks etc).

[@Fun_Dealer]

@@abearsmind I’m not too hard on my jackets. Then get the occasional scrape from scrambling but that’s about it. Thanks for your help! Arcteryx should pay you a wage! Haha

[@sx5707]

Nice video with good contest but wish voice quality is improved without background noise

[@abearsmind]

Thanks for the feedback, def working on my mic game.

[@nocap3404]

Hey man loved the explanation! So many options to choose from but I was wondering what would be best for rainy weather and wind not much activity just to walk around outside but must be waterproof and light . What’d you recommend?

[@abearsmind]

The Beta LT would be a good all round choice, with the Norvan LT as a second if you don’t need pockets. However if lightness and pockets are required the Zeta SL will be best, just make sure you wash it regularly as Paclite+ has delamination issues.

[@virusbe9370]

please i need your help, can we ski with these jackets. Are the ar and the lt good for skiing?

[@abearsmind]

The AR and LT versions can be used for skiing if you wear bibs underneath. If you have pants you might want to look at the Rush or Sabre jackets.

[@iftekharuddin]

Great explanation.

[@abearsmind]

Glad it was helpful!

[@BarisDuygu-q2u]

Bro would you say the beta ar is similar to the lt when it comes to breathing?

[@abearsmind]

All goretex breathes poorly, which is why you need the pitzips. Go for the AR if you want a tougher face fabric, if not LT is the way to go.

[@ysoangri]

Thank you for the vid! I'm still having a hard time. Which one do you recommend for bushwhacking?

[@abearsmind]

Probably the Beta SV

[@coolguy8473]

ARCTWIZZY

[@labellaescrima1996]

great job man,

[@abearsmind]

Thanks!

[@jerryiom]

Hi Jeff, what’s the main difference between Fraser and Beta series? Can you share your view from usage perspective please? Thank you.

[@abearsmind]

Fraser is C-knit (softer) and Beta uses regular/pro goretex membranes. In essence they are all waterproof, Fraser is more comfortable next to skin and is intended for urban usage. The Beta series can be used in both urban and outdoor settings with beefier face fabrics (heavier weight) with increased durability.

[@leejohn6055]

detailed!

[@abearsmind]

i tried!

[@hipuy9162]

Have they changed the zeta line to gamma

[@abearsmind]

The Zeta line has been discontinued…

[@lthpr8012]

Too many range and names. They need simple to understand at a glance chart

[@nachoalonso9781]

can i use my alpha sv for skiing???

[@abearsmind]

absolutely!

[@mturner221]

Hey im a tree climber by trade and i have been looking for any jacket that can withstand tree work for more than a year or two. Have you heard of arborists/climbers using the SV series with success? Would hate to destroy such an expensive jacket

[@bobdylanlovr69]

We’re you able to learn anything about this? I’m in a similar situation

[@mturner221]

@@bobdylanlovr69 no man i wish i had solid advice to give now but im still too broke to give it a try myself lmao! I know 2 people (other arborists) that own an arcteryx and they are super happy with it. Both say they imagine you could get similar for cheaper but they havent found it themselves. Im going to pull the trigger soon maybe as a Christmas present to myself this year.

[@philorgneopolotin8762]

@@mturner221update #2. Have you bought it and if so how has it held up?

[@mturner221]

@philorgneopolotin8762 I did actually man! Ended up with Beta AR and love it. Had it almost a year and really like it. I nicked the sleeve rolling under my car (like an idiot with a $500 jacket on) and the customer service wouldn't help other than send me a free goretex patch. My fault so I kinda understand. But wading through blackberries doesn't tear it, sliding against rough bark doesn't tear it. Also you will Need to treat it with the waterproofing spray maybe twice a year if you wash it weekly. I wash it every week and still repels all water. So highly recommend for tree workers, maybe not for mechanics 😩

[@marksmithj9892]

Much of this no longer makes sense. I love Arcteryx products, but the way they flip-flop around with their naming system is ridiculous! FL doesn’t exist anymore. Then LT becomes “Lightweight”, then back to LT, and sometimes both at the same time for the same shell. Then there’s the Beta jacket, for example, that has no letter designation at all. FL, SL, LT, AR, SV all used to make sense. Arcteryx should stick to a system and stop f$(king around.

[@gorter23]

will they ever make the Zeta SL in turkoise again?

[@irishman3375]

I'm thinking about getting the RUSH IS for skiing (used would be great), but it's confusing.

[@abearsmind]

Rush IS is great for skiing if you’re not planning on touring, also great as an everyday shell in the city with the insulated lining.

[@irishman3375]

@@abearsmind what do you mean bye "touring" not sure I understand? tia

[@abearsmind]

as in you’re not doing backcountry skiing (skinning up)

[@doctorbighead3882]

They all mean the same thing for me: too expensive for my broke ass

[@abearsmind]

You can frequently find them on sale!

[@n-da-bunka2650]

No NOTHING on the #1 selling Sabre series? Odd, thumbs down