What Do You Put On Your Master Bus?

In this episode the guys discuss mix bus techniques they use for their music. Is analog saturation the secret to a better sounding mix with more perceived loudness? Do you EQ your master buss when it comes to your final prints? Do you use separate busses for your drums, music etc that feed the main bus? Lets find out.
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Cubase + FL Studio is the perfect combo. I can sync FL to CB and work in both simultaneously without having to bounce, export and import stems...👌 17:25 What you said about using saturation to create perceived loudness took the words out my mouth. Since giving more attention to my mixbus I also have a new found appreciation for parallel compression. There are so many techniques each producing their own unique sound.

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bruh, these discussions are hilarious...tbh ion even kno some of the shit yall laughin at but when yall start laughin and turning up i start laughin too hahah wtf. preciate u guys, Devvon- i have learned so much from you bro bro, thank u so much for the wealth of information youve shared over the years, i wouldnt be where i am currently if i didnt have YOUR channel to learn so much from. (and im barely gettin started.) i guess i gotta check out that God Particle shit now...haha thanks!

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[@RelicLabzEntertainment]

ill be mixing and realize i have like 8 busses for everything and everything, from instruments to instruments with reverb to random delays to the fully wet signal of everything. busses are really just easier if your really trying to tame things. otherwise you default to just the inserts. i feel like once you know how to mix you dont try and do things rather, you think about what you want and use what you know best to accomplish that. like you hear a boxy vocal, its either eq or multiband comp depending on how clear the vocal is perceived, or if you have a dead mix throw saturation or tweak comp timings. its really just a mash of different techniques to mow the same lawn

[@BihlerOfficial]

My mastering chain: goodhertz tone control, ssl 4000 bus compressor, black box (or goodhertz tupe) and the weiss comp limiter

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[@thestreetdisciple3955]

The double the limiter trick is sooooo useful. Use them like a la2a going into a 1176 on a vocal. And just recently learned about mastering into the limiter.

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Usually it’s 1176 into a LA2A

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Im all about the master bus right now. I used to put a lot now I only put Studder A800 (UAD) and Pro-c 2 (fabfilter) or Pro-L2 (fabfilter) and those was recommended from Jaycen Joshua.

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My master lately has been. Amek 200 EQ -> Pulsar Mu -> TDR Nova GE -> The Oven -> TDR Limiter 6 (compressor off). All doing something subtle but most the driving is in the Limiter 6. Can't speak highly enough about TDR Limiter 6, with the HF Limiter, soft clipper and limiter in it, took my mixes to the next level. I like The God Particle, but I prefer control. So I use it mostly as like a temp, set it and forget it preview type thing.

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Nice pod! God Particle is on every one of my mix buses too

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a bit more space for everyones opinion would be in place tho ;) Besides that, veryyy entertaining! Keep it up!

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[@ScantlessBeatz]

I heard Tony Maserati and a few others talk about doing little increments here and there to get a great mix.

[@straighttrippingmusic]

I use a lot of isht.. I like God particle.. It adds something to the stereo field that I like.. But I also hardly use limiter because I get enough volume with other plug-ins.. Also black box is good with adding some air.. But as with all these pligins you got to know what it does because other things need to be adjusted like hi hats..

[@ScantlessBeatz]

And I do a lot of processing on each track so every element has its track with processing key to that sound and my 808 & kick go direct to the master bus always with key eq on each one with ott on most of my 808's with filter-ms distortion (auturia) but the 808 n kick chain changes up.

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19:55 Triple bussing. Good save with the pause on that one bro 😂🤣😆

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[@flamersss]

yo devon can you make a video on how you would go about it on your mix buss bro?? l have black box and alot of plugins but i don’t really know how to set it up on the master before mixing

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i loooved the video. fun and full of great info. i have a curiosity Devvon, do you mix into the harmonic saturation plugins or you add them at the end?

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100 Percent FACTS on the Drum Buss comment Devvon!

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If u keep throwing game in these sessions I’m going to have to keep coming back!! More about that master chain 👀👀

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Studio one pro in the building 😎

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Absolutely!

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Have you guys try Radiator from Soundtoys in your mix buss and I will say before saturation or just last in the chain but bruh Radiator it’s Fireee !

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[@medusavibes6092]

I Fking love Black Box !!! I have been using Black Box for around 2 years and since then it never leaves my Master Buss

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[@ZAY________]

Can we get a video on a 2023 Devvon Mix Bus? Hence the one you're mentioning? You are very very good at explaining WHY we do certain things and why we may not want to do certain things. I'm for sure curious on how one would use a 2 limiter set up. In terms of the God Particle, what I always try and deep dive to get answered is this. We know Jaycen Joshua mixes INTO the God Particle and touches nothing (for the most part) He explains this in his Tutorial video on his website. But my question is, is that the SAME file that then gets uploaded to a "Distrokid?" type company? OR does he mean to use the God Particle as a TOOL to get a good MIX (Hit all the greens in the UI) and then when you're done with MIXING, Then turn OFF the God Particle and bounce the file down. > then at that point would ready for the Mastering phase of things?

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[@RelicLabzEntertainment]

yeah i use 2 to 3 limiters sometimes depending on the drum bus and maybe hit like 2 db max

[@tcibeatrecords4707]

I used so many Daw’s. I have decided to stick with one and do everything with it. Studio one V6….

[@chemdrum]

My mix bus changed over some time but I'm not gonna lie to ya'll lol I def got that God Particle on there. Personally, I throw the Waves Abbey Roads Saturator before it and I go from there. I actually like the limiter on the God Particle. Call me crazy, lol but I think it works better than the Waves L2 limiter(and I've always used that limiter religiously lol). I've even cranked the limiter way past the 5db standard mark and it still "sounds" forgiving. I'm def tryna keep learning with my master bus especially on achieving that loudness! Lol I probably shouldn't be worrying about this but I'm trying to hang in the loudness wars!! If Waves comes out with a "God Particle" like plugin, I'm def coppin LOL

[@RelicLabzEntertainment]

the abby roads tape is a good pic as well

[@RolandDeschain1]

I have all my instrument busses going into a Submix, which then goes into the Master buss. On that Submix Buss all I have is some very light glue compression and a limiter.

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[@rian_x0]

Softube Weiss mm-1 is the best final step on the master. It does like no other plug-in, except the DS1 three which it is modeled after.

[@rian_x0]

Use it with bx master desk pro for loudness

[@KingKasper]

My Master bus is... 1. Pro - Q3 2. Ozone imager 3. Shadow Hills 4. Sonnix inflator 5. Arc tg 6. Slate fgx 7. Pro L 2

[@Seriouspup]

I have definitely noticed less impact on transients w linear phase.

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do you put the god particle before or after the limiter?

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Lmao goddamn.. "that little chain" okay 😂😂 ima try it tho.

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Protools gang but I need y’all to check out Luna as well it’s dope too

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Damn i seen someone with the gold edition. I copped the regular HMD. what's the difference? and why is it two version for a plugin?

[@RobinZV1]

also, plug-in developers do mention not using higher samples rates unless you REALLY think you need it. JJP doesn’t even like sessions at certain sample rates like 48k. he prefers either 44.1 or 96 because he points out the sound difference with how plug-ins work with it. he even called 48 softer.

[@HelpMeDevvon]

Yes!!! I seen that. I heard Joseph say 44khz was his favorite and that 48 sounded the worst to him. Very interesting take!

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When will the gold edition of Rosetta HMD EQ be available?

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Please make podcast abut sound design I mean fx like (reverse reverb, delay automation and other stuff)

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FL Shawty killed it at the end ol

[@ElieSaintongeMusic]

the god particle - the lords mineral I freaking exploded 😂😂😂

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CLA-76 is so fire

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Y'all need that God Particle sponsorship lol. Never heard of it before this video but now I'm googlin like a mad man

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Maschine + Logic unmatched!!

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Nice podcast

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Soundgoodizer jokes never get old 🤣

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Devvon, the NLS BUSS is Dopamine. Thanks for putting me on to that.

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Bro it’s so addictive seriously!!

[@HollerAtcherBoi]

Saphira is better and has more control

[@_JohnnySav]

Double Limiting yes it’s a thing!!!

[@MKD371]

Using a double limiter makes perfect sense. Everything is done in stages, bit by bit, brick by brick.

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We need that mix bus chain on your store fam!!!!

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Yea y’all would want that???!

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