What does 2025 hold for James Bond?

[@belloq81]

On a personal note, I’m very happy for you that the channel grew so much in 2024, and I hope that trend continues in ’25. I spread the word where I can! Like you, I definitely would also like some news from Ian Fleming Publications about a new James Bond novel (ideally the start of a series, and actually starring James Bond). I’m also planning to visit the 007 Science exhibit at Chicago’s Museum of Science and Industry now that its run has been extended well into 2025. As I have now come to grips with the high probability that we will not be getting any movie news in 2025, I now have to pin my hopes on La-La Land Records to again be my primary source of “official” Bond excitement for the year. With the THUNDERBALL, A VIEW TO A KILL, and GOLDENEYE (and, sure, SPECTRE... but I don’t really care!) anniversaries, I am anticipating expanded and remastered soundtrack offerings from LLLR for at least some -- if not all -- of those. A complete and chronological presentation of Barry’s AVTAK score would be particularly welcome.

[@AnalyzeThisMisterBond]

I hear the Chicago exhibit is the best of the current Bond exhibits, so I'm sure that'll be great

[@AnalyzeThisMisterBond]

La La Land is going the Lord's work, I must say

[@the_narthex]

1- "The great days of cinema are probably in our rearview mirror." As someone who loves movies, this makes me sad... But it's obviously true. I teach a lot of students who tell me they don't even watch movies because they spend their free time playing video games. And to add even more sadness to this discussion, not a single one of them is a 007 fan. I'm doing what I can, through. 2- James Bond Comics... This makes me happy! I've really enjoyed Phillip Johnson and the comics on Kindle. It's definitely a step up from the days when 007 comics would start a story and not even finish it (A Silent Armageddon). I also recently purchased the omnibuses for the classic comic strips by Jim Lawrence. Great fun! Though surprisingly exploitive for strips that originally appeared in a newspaper.

[@AnalyzeThisMisterBond]

I think the transition from film/TV to video games as a dominant medium is gonna create a really sharp generational divide.

[@johnseeger9083]

Another excellent chat!Well done, mate. Happy New Year! JR Seeger old warrior, even older novelist Shameless plug: my latest novel has CDR Ian Fleming as a main character.

[@AnalyzeThisMisterBond]

Cheers! I'm always supportive of shameless plugs.

[@reedyma]

All great things to look forward on, I'm really excited for the new game. Would be cool to get some Bond game reviews from you in the future.

[@AnalyzeThisMisterBond]

I think Calvin has done an intimidatingly good job on that front, and I don't really have the setup to record game footage... but I'll definitely be following Project 007 closely.

[@reedyma]

@AnalyzeThisMisterBond very true, Calvin does have some great Bond game video reviews and playthroughs.

[@ebismusic8813]

For a bond fan, games and books are something to look forward to, but to the general public, its the films singularly that are of interest. Without a new film James Bond will fade in the public domain. Sad but I do feel this time things are bleak

[@AnalyzeThisMisterBond]

I think games are a bigger player than you do (the video game industry already makes a lot more money than film/TV), there's just a big generational divide there.

[@ebismusic8813]

yes agreed

[@ebismusic8813]

@@AnalyzeThisMisterBond actually to add to that if no new films are made, the general interest in the 007 world will fade, and that will affect sales of games and continuation books too. I don’t want to see this happen.

[@usernameinfo4therevenge]

I think various events, from NTTD creating a literal dead end, to changes in how people watch films, have seen the end of the Bond film series in the traditional sense. It has crept up on us without a big announcement, but the days of going to watch a Bond adventure on the big screen on a semi regular basis seem to be over. The character isn't going away - we might actually get more of him than ever before. Greg Wilson (or another Wilson son) said in an interview a while back that Eon are concentrating more on computer games, and I always remember the 'fun fact' that was floated around years ago that Goldeneye the computer game made more money than Goldeneye the film. Something I wouldn't mind seeing in this new environment is a full length Bond story made with high end animation aimed at the kind of adult audience who watch the live action films. Casting Bond would be a bit easier, you would just need to be someone with a great voice.

[@AnalyzeThisMisterBond]

An animated Bond series could be really fun.

[@jbjones07]

These current "wilderness" years remind me of the time between LTK and GE. It seemed like Bond's film series was gone, and honestly, and weirdly, I was fine with that. In my mind, LTK felt like a conclusion to the whole thing, but at least I had 16 (or 17, or 18 😁) films to watch over and over again. I spent my time reading the Fleming novels. Some of the Gardner novels filled the void in my mind as continuations of not only Fleming material, but the films as well. And even though it had no legitimate connection to the movies, I was amused by the James Bond Jr cartoon. There are lots of ways to fill that void, and your suggestions are 👍🏾. And I think that Bond in film will return eventually, and enthusiastically. Kinda like how there's interest in the new Superman film due to its teaser.

[@AnalyzeThisMisterBond]

There's a lot of Bond stuff around. We're also getting the 4K re-releases of the Connery films later this year, which is exciting...

[@richardweddle3408]

Some of us having been filling the long void between Craig's anti-Bond films and post-NTTD silence with alternatives, but that's getting old. I have felt enthused about since Craig showed us what he was made of.

[@KikinImpossible]

I think from 2015 to 2035, we’re going have a lost (double) decade. In that time, we may have only one move: No Time to Die. The good news is that the books enter the public domain in 2035, and other people can start releasing books and movies, minus a few elements particular to the movies.

[@AnalyzeThisMisterBond]

The transition to the public domain will be a mixed bag - it'll be fun to see more Bond stuff, but quality will be all over the map, and you'll get weird stuff like the show ELEMENTARY that riffed on Sherlock Holmes.

[@KikinImpossible]

I liked Elementary. At least it won’t be a complete roadblock by one person. Maybe other competitors will push EON to action. That’s the whole purpose of intellectual property expiring.

[@richardweddle3408]

@@AnalyzeThisMisterBond regarding public domain Bond, I've written my own screenplay adaptation of Casino Royale. It keeps faith with Fleming. Soon as the copyright clears we hit the ground running. Maybe we'll do Moonraker immediately following. Small budget independent films but full-blooded and with style.

[@CosmicApe2]

Of all the 2025 film anniversaries, I’m most intrigued by the impending fan focus on AVTAK. 20 years ago it was my dead last favorite Bond film. I watched it a few nights ago and quite enjoyed it, warts and all. Felt like a John Gardner novel put to screen in a way (again, warts and all). I think it’s a perfect time for reappraisal, not that I see it entering the pantheon of classics. Also, I’m hoping for a La La Land release of AVTAK’s score. TB as well.

[@CosmicApe2]

Oh yeah, La La Land releases are things to get and look forward to. They just released TMWTGG and MR. MR in particular was an amazing release.

[@AnalyzeThisMisterBond]

AVTAK does feel very Gardner-y!

[@YTguySmithy-lk6go]

Best case scenario: Eon and Amazon come to an amicable agreement over the future of the franchise. A clear plan is put forward and agreed by all parties. A release date for Bond 26 is agreed and announced in summer or fall 2025. Given the fact Amazon are putting up the money for Bond 26 (unless there are other investors) Eon Productions will have to compromise. Calling Amazon "fking idiots" is not going to get Amazon on board so Broccoli will have to put her ego to one side, make some compromises and hopefully Amazon do the same. My guess is Amazon will put pressure on Eon to cast an actor that's already worked on an Amazon Prime tv show or film. I don't think that excludes a fairly unknown actor but Amazon may prefer someone they know and have worked with. I don't think Aaron Taylor-Johnson or any other of the other names we hear about will get the role. I think it will be someone relatively unknown (but possibly with limited experience on an Amazon tv show or film). I hated Eon's decision to kill off Bond in NTTD so I would welcome Eon and Amazon going with a 'Bond survives' storyline for Bond 26. Worse case scenario: Eon Productions refuse to work with Amazon because they regard Amazon as unsuitable partners. Amazon file a lawsuit against Eon/Danjaq for unreasonable delay/breach of contract. The lawsuit drags on for a year or more and Amazon win. Eon are found culpable and pay Amazon millions in damages. Barbara Broccoli maintains her position not to work with Amazon. She decides to sell Eon's stake in the franchise to the highest bidder. No Time To Die becomes Eon Productions final James Bond film. 1962 - 2021. Which scenario is more likely? We'll probably know sometime next year. If we approach summer or fall with zero news then it's very likely Amazon and Eon have not found a way past the impasse and litigation will be the obvious course of action. Amazon should litigate if Eon stall for the next 12 months or so.

[@AnalyzeThisMisterBond]

I don't know if there is truly a way Amazon can hold EON accountable for "breach of contract" if EON doesn't move forward on a new Bond movie. EON and Amazon are working together on Chitty Chitty Bang Bang so I don't think their relationship is at a full-stop breakdown.

[@danieltuval8879]

2025 ??? Nothing at all,and this is not a bad thing.i think Bond has been resurrected and rebooted enough ,it's exhausted the possibilities of where a character conceived in the 50s can go,without subverting him completely. So I think the question now becomes are the risks worth the rewards? And the more time goes by the more you run the risk of destroying the legacy. Everything has to end,and Bond has,overstayed his welcome several times.this last stint came close once again to self destruction. And I think the producers, honestly, want to now protect their legacy. Pity they didn't go out after skyfall!!! Which would have been a high.

[@AnalyzeThisMisterBond]

I don't think the character is exhausted (one reason I love the current comics is that they have a very fresh perspective on the character that feels very contemporary while keeping the essentials intact), but I understand your feelings. I felt similarly to you after DIE ANOTHER DAY came out.

[@ebismusic8813]

I do fear that time is being called on the traditional bond release due to a whole barrage of changes in behaviour

[@richardweddle3408]

Interesting. Such as?

[@ebismusic8813]

@ 1. Reduction in cinema attendance 2. Less awareness of Bond as time goes by 3. That the last film created a finale

[@richardweddle3408]

@@ebismusic8813 -- James Bond is a cultural event, like the Super Bowl. People will pay to see it not knowing how it will turn out, only that it will be a good ride. EON understands this fundamental principle: James Bond is the star, not the actor who plays him. The actor can help it or hurt it, but people come to see a James Bond adventure regardless who plays him.

[@ebismusic8813]

@ - I agree entirely with your point. I was saying that it is the films that drive the interest in the idea of the world of 007 - and without any new films there will be a decline in awareness that will affect the interest in games and continuation books.

[@richardweddle3408]

@@ebismusic8813 -- understood. You're right on point.

[@richardweddle3408]

Video games mean nothing to me. I welcome another legit Bond continuation novel, but that's a little thing. There's isn't much to look forward to in the Bond world without a new Bond film, or at least the news that a new Bond film is coming. Barbara Broccoli is giving Daniel Craig the last word. She doesn't want anyone to follow him. No matter how they lie to the press, there will never be another Bond film. Not ever. She's out of her mind, but there you have it.

[@AnalyzeThisMisterBond]

I think that's an overly cynical reading of Barbara Broccoli's intentions!

[@richardweddle3408]

@@AnalyzeThisMisterBond no, it's realistic. I'm too old to be star struck.Consider the facts.

[@YTguySmithy-lk6go]

Amazon will have to show their card soon, I reckon. This "let's wait and see" approach may be playing into Broccoli's hands. She may be prepared to give up making Bond films. She's 64, her muse, Craig, has left the role. She may not have any enthusiasm to recast the role and reboot the franchise. If she doesn't care that much she may be prepared to stall Bond 26 indefinitely and Amazon will have to litigate. If Amazon want to make new James Bond films and Eon Productions don't want to work Amazon then call Broccoli's bluff. File a lawsuit. If Broccoli doesn't want to face potential legal and financial problems she'll have to compromise. I've no idea if she is prepared to compromise. If she is 100 percent convinced Amazon is the wrong partner for Bond she may be prepared to fight it out in court. She may have an irrational dislike of Amazon. Who knows!

[@richardweddle3408]

@@YTguySmithy-lk6go well, you've given some good thought to this. I have some experience with entertainment contracts. I have not read this one, but my understanding is that EON Productions with Barbara Broccoli in charge retains creative control along with the copyright and 50% of the movie rights. Amazon owns the other 50%, but they have no say in how to proceed. EON has been ignoring them for three years. But Barbara Broccoli ignores everybody. amazon just wants EON to DO something, to move ahead with a Bond film. All she has to do to placate amazon is start a Bond film going. They will accept it, whatever it is. Instead she keeps making excuses and ignores them. Now, I don't think amazon's algorithm Bond scenarios are any better than Barbara's last 5 feminist take-downs of Bond, but they don't have to go down that road again. If EON doesn't start a production soon in good faith amazon will be within their rights to litigate, and that won't go well for EON. EON's website reveals that she has dedicated the company to other Daniel Craig projects, but there's no Bond film on the slate. She's obsessed with him, and it's very personal.

[@Paul_Whaley]

I’m excited for whatever the future brings. The Amazon situation may be a little messy, but I have faith in Barbara and her determination. I am very, very excited for Project 007. Eidos has a pretty solid track record over the last 2 decades, and “Bond by the Hitman devs “ seems like a match made in heaven. Everything or Nothing and the 2005 FRWL are two of my favorite Bond games of the 21st century, and I’m ready for another game to add to that list. I really need to read the comics. I’m halfway through the Fleming novels now, and have been really enjoying them. I’m really looking forward to your deep-dive into the literary Bond. 2025 will be a great year! Your channel will keep growing, and we’ll be happy to see your insights and analysis about our favorite fictional spy. It’s been great to see your collabs/appearences on other channels, as it’s great to actually have a community with a shared interest. As always, thank you for the video Ryan. I hope the new year is fantastic for you!

[@AnalyzeThisMisterBond]

I think there's a bit of a generation divide when it comes to the video games, but I'm an active gamer and honestly can't wait for Project 007 to land.

[@loftlegacy]

More of the same- nothing.

[@AnalyzeThisMisterBond]

Some of the 2025 things I listed are sure things, so "nothing" seems a bit strong!

[@loftlegacy]

@ ok I admit, they may release the tired old Lowry Digital scans on Ultra HD Blu ray of “the Connery Collection”. As for that, not much.