What does an increase in ’economically inactive’ people do to the economy? | BBC News

One in five working-age people in the UK aren’t in the workforce, a figure which has risen since the Covid pandemic.
An increasing number of people are now ‘economically inactive’ - that means they are out of work but not seeking new employment.
Ros Atkins examines the cost this is having on the UK economy.
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[@user-wm1zg1dh8f]

900,000 vacancies. Let's guess how many are minimum wage shitty retail jobs? Who the fuck would want to work on those piss wages?

[@Sjo0770]

Exactly well said 👏

[@arcan762]

IDK, £11.44 doesn't seem too bad

[@boofuu3145]

over one million new arrivals and still 900,000 jobs to fill , people still aint cottoned on , try looking at the biggest demographic that come here and the percentage of them that work , 51% source ONS

[@gearupgifts]

The reality is - people just can't afford to work for £11.44 per hour so why do it?

[@boofuu3145]

@@gearupgifts stop mass migration and wages will rise

[@ldmorris21]

because the uk gov have never prioritised health and wellbeing... we are having a mental health crisis. they only care now, because it effects productivity.

[@FLPhotoCatcher]

The question is, "why are we having a mental health crisis?" I think part of it has to be due to the modern societal changes we see.

[@Pod.Snipsz]

99% of people who claim to have mental health issues do not infact have real mental health issues, its been a normalised trend . this generation is too soft.

[@user-iw2bn3gz1n]

​@@FLPhotoCatchersocial media and everything being online is the main issue. You cant catch a break from any of it. I wish i could go back in time. Even by 20 years and i would be happy

[@naomi5495]

How many of these young ill/disabled people are only ill/disabled because they couldn’t access decent healthcare when they needed it and that has left them with lifelong complications?

[@jan2000nl]

Depression, bad nerves, anxiety…. In other words make up excuse for choosing not to work. Let other people work and live off their labour….

[@Toodyslexicforyou]

@@jan2000nlah yes the medically and scientifically recognised mental illness are comepltey BS now as Jan2000 think so 😂😂😂😂

[@user-iw2bn3gz1n]

​@@jan2000nluntil you suffer from mental health daily dont judge. You have no idea the effect mental health has on people.

[@Runnifier]

The tone of politicians when talking about the unemployed is unsettling. It’s like royalty complaining that their subjects aren’t working hard enough. Just gross

[@meh4770]

Considering that these people are not “unemployed”, but rather unwilling to work, it is a concern for all working people and taxpayers regardless of their wealth.

[@paul7TM]

​@@meh4770It really depends on why they are not working. There are thousands of different medical conditions. Many within mental health. The government's answer from next year is to make them work from home. Oh fine. Do you want to call customer services dealing with someone with chronic PTSD and depression. We are not fun at times.

[@loganlin6109]

More like slave owners talking about their slaves or a farmer talking about their herd of livestock.

[@meh4770]

@@paul7TM Stop with the excuses. Work is hard, but you have to do it. That’s it.

[@amandahunter4034]

That's exactly what it is. Britain has a royal Family, that is extremely wealthy while not doing any work, and we are all their subjects who are expected to work.

[@chriscottell6854]

Put wages up more so people want to work, there's been alot of people taking their own lives because they can't afford to live because everything's so expensive.

[@DanteLovesPizza]

It's actually easier to drive prices of things down than increase wages. A salary increase has to be equal across the board otherwise people with less increase end up getting it worse. Driving prices down is equal for everyone and easier to implement. Oh, but it's better with Brexit, so we can't be part of a bulk buying group, and oh, it's better to fund a war and buy more expensive gas and oil. The solution is simple, but no one is implementing it, and no one wants to implement it.

[@rndompersn3426]

I keep hearing about worker shortages but then when you go on a jobsite you find like 100 people applying to be a receptionist. Then there are jobs that are borderline frauds.

[@RafaquaQuetta]

A cleaning job yesterday I saw had 482 applicants, for 11.50 an hour..

[@chris_hawk]

@@RafaquaQuetta Church janitor in Canada had over 100 applicants. For a part-time job.

[@JaidenJimenez86]

Or job listings which are simply agencies looking for people to put on their books!

[@filippo8189]

Young people aren’t motivated to work hard because the right incentives are no longer in place. The salaries offered nowadays are not allowing them to build lives like their parents’. Why would anyone want to work when they have given up the idea of ever owning property, being able to support a family and have a solid standard of living. Working to death to barely make ends meet? Why would anyone want to do that? Better then to stay home and have small lives. It’s so effing tragic.

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

I'm an award-winning author and my previous work was 30+ years of live productions, teaching classes, directing, designing over 9000 sounds, and more. I HAVE NO CHANCE, lol. 😂 No chance at any even remotely plausible glimpse of a legitimately awesome end-of-life scenario. I'm guaranteed to be unalived in 6-12 years. There's no other logical, mathematical possibility. It is what it is. 💪😎✌️ #StayInYourLane

[@arslanasad5980]

Everyone has to start somewhere, you can’t expect to enter the work force on higher wages. Work hard, gain experience and skills that allows you to climb up the ladder.

[@Politely_Indifferent]

@@arslanasad5980 It doesn't work like that for the vast majority of the British population.

[@Politely_Indifferent]

This is, unfortunately, accurate. Add to this reduced life expectancy, which reduces the earning potential of an individual across the course of their life.

[@mbbo-qr8yt]

@@arslanasad5980I agree with your overall thought process but this isn’t feasible nowadays. I went to university for 7 years, interned for 1, worked 4 years in corporate and I couldn’t afford to buy a vehicle and rent at the same time. I’m unemployed right now but I’m up skilling but that costs money and time and not everyone can afford that. The crisis is bigger than people not wanting to work their way up.

[@flossypark3169]

Oh, and the MP’s are awarding themselves 5.5% wage increase!

[@stevebren88]

at least they are actually working

[@dubsar]

No! It's LOW WAGES and HIGH LIVING COSTS.

[@ben8878]

EXACTLY. WHY THE FUCK SHOULD I WORK DAY AND NIGHT FOR WAGES WHERE I CANT AFFORD TO LIVE COMFORTABLY EVEN AS A SINGLE PERSON. OF COURSE WE ARE DEPRESSED.

[@greg_nicholls]

And not working helps, how?

[@ben8878]

@@greg_nicholls it doesn't

[@user-iw2bn3gz1n]

​@@ben8878why would you work all day and night anyway? Thats just crazy😂

[@ben8878]

@@user-iw2bn3gz1n I was making a point about how insane the housing market is. that it doesn't matter how hard you work, you cannot afford the basics such as housing.

[@23erisx]

MOTIVATION has to be present if you want people to WANT to go to work. Intelligent people can look around, and look at history, look at their own experiences, and they can see that there is no MEANING in the jobs that are offered - nothing to connect to. Everything is owned by faceless, inhuman corporations (or the governments the corporations own) who care only for the next quarter's earnings, and nothing for those who make the money for them. Why would ANYONE want to work for them? The fear of homelessness, poverty, etc only goes so far.

[@ibm_businessman6033]

spot on

[@hygruschech2643]

@23erisx can you elaborate on the point: “no meaning in the jobs to connect to”? Is it a matter of salary and tax, or something more philosophical like performing the job doesn’t make you feel like you’re contributing to society as a whole? I mean surely nobody would like to starve or be homeless when you can just work a few hours a day to not be so (under the assumption that the salary is enough to achieve that)

[@boofuu3145]

stopping welfare all together will focus their minds ha ha ha

[@sleepyjoe7843]

When you get taxes to oblivion and don't get anything in return. It's depressing and demotivating.

[@Manicpanicanticant]

​@@hygruschech2643a few hours a day? Mate even the 9-5 plus commute time is three quarters of the face of the clock. Plus a lot of these jobs unfilled are jobs that offer low contacted hours but expect full flexibility. For example my sister working 45 hours a week consistently for over a year on an eight hour contract. Working 12-9pm and then the next day 9am-6pm.

[@buntyjoy1800]

How much does multimillionaires, sitting on all that wealth, affect the economy for masses.

[@TechyCatz]

That doesn’t pay taxes

[@buntyjoy1800]

@@user-cz8ed1ho7n When Russia is knocking on the door see how you feel about it then.

[@wangjchen1763]

​​@@buntyjoy1800 how by swimming? Their navy is gone.

[@buntyjoy1800]

@@wangjchen1763 Yeh cos we are really good at stopping boats coming across the channel 😂

[@wamnicho]

@@wangjchen1763 who told you their navy is gone, because of 4 ships that were sank. They have navy ships in the Baltic Sea, Black Sea, off the coast of Syria, and in the far east close to Japan and they can manufacture more

[@tufsoft1]

If I was young now I wouldn't want to work, the motive for working is that you can eventually have a home of your own. Why work if three quarters of your income is taken as rent by a vulture fund? Why bother to make a stable relationship, why bother to have children? The deification of greed and superfluous wealth is destroying our culture, and politics has become a branch of merchandising where rich people offer a penny off the income tax to get your vote and anyone offering real change or real solutions is drummed off the podium. Give the young a share in this world! Give them a motive to live! They weren't born second class citizens, they were just born after the people who snapped up all the real estate. Some joined up thinking please.

[@cheeseoreos493]

It's a relief when someone older looking down on the problem actually offers sympathy and sees whats really going on

[@chickenpie9698]

I'm not surprised that poor mental health is the biggest reason why my generation aren't able to work. Even when they do go back to work, it's not as if they're going to be able to feasibly afford to own their own house unless their family will be subsidising the cost somehow in the vast majority of cases. It's really easy to see why some people will just choose to be on benefits if all they can hope to achieve by working is paying off some other person's mortgage quite frankly. In addition, it's really disgusting to hear from other well educated people around my age who are simply resigning themselves to a life of renting - if that's the future we have, I don't see anything but disparity among the rich and poor.

[@benjamindover4337]

Exactly. There is literally no reason to participate in the economy anymore. The benefits of working would have to increase by 400% before it would even make sense to have a job. You'd literally have to be stupid to be working now.

[@MasonDixonAutistic]

You can't simply 'choose to be on benefits'. The system is designed to appease an electorate that lacks the slightest clue how the system functions, and who accuse each other on their own street of being 'on the fiddle'. The justice system is designed so that it's better nine guilty go free rather than one innocent is punished; the benefits system is the inverse of that.

[@boofuu3145]

mass migration is the cause of all this , cant build our way out of it either , its still rocketing , without tackling that its futile , then add on top of that the biggest demographic who come only 51% work , source ONS , they wont tell you that on the news though

[@theway334]

It is interesting perhaps, at this point, this is the whole world over, in some ways, China, Korea, Japan, perhaps even US, this phenomenon.

[@MrKingmobster]

Is benefits more lucrative than the compensation from work? I quite like being able to go and have a decent meal once in a while, doubt I'd be able to do that on benefits... 🤷‍♂️

[@MantasasInHD]

They are so out of touch and clueless, the problem is theres not enough jobs for everyone. You post one job vacancy online and get hundreds of people applying. How's everyone supposed to be working in this condition?

[@wjorb857]

Exactly. I really dont understand this narrative. How can there be 900k vacancies yet almost every job vacancy ive seen on indeed, LinkedIn etc has like 100+ applications. To me, it does seem like propaganda to support having more cheap labour from migration. But things are so bad it took me applying for over 200 vacancies over the course of 2 months to finally get a job. And I was literally looking for anything. Nothing specific.

[@Jpe-vr7xi]

@@wjorb857 I was unemployed for 2 years straight out of school apart from the odd 2 weeks temp jobs every now and then and I am applying to every job but it is partly my fault because I can't be motivated enough to apply to billion jobs in a month

[@VPPAF]

you forgot the other reason people are sick of just filling the pockets of fat cat bosses

[@maxasaurus3008]

I don’t get why you are including retired folk. They payed their dues, worked their whole lives.

[@ascgazz7347]

Everybody not working is an enemy in a purely capitalist, and heavily consumerist society.

[@babalonkie]

I don't get why you are acting like a unwanted prehistoric Republican American and trying to discriminate people via age when it come to sickness... Sorry the one country on the Planet Brits don't want to be anything like... is USA... and not even a apocalypse will change that. Signed: Britain

[@user-bi8ko7kc6h]

@@CR-og5hothose people are likely to be rich who can’t claim benefits or very sick

[@jeromemanoharan7427]

Not a mention of Post Covid sickness. That now plays a big role. Most people don’t even realize and just put it down to general sickness.

[@ascgazz7347]

@@CR-og5ho or too disabled or ill to work, or funded by rich parents.. or asylum seeker awaiting process.. Or children.. There’s more to it than retirement. 👍

[@Banor]

Whats the point of going to work if wages are so low?

[@L32C-yg9hm]

Independence

[@FeelBetterReviews]

If you have an NHS that is no longer able to help people due to the government's handling of it, then people aren't going to be able to work if they aren't able to get the care they need.

[@timecorn]

Maybe those people don't work because they are waiting 1 year + for treatment

[@hy3na739]

Oh no... If this continues the superrich wont be able to afford their 4th Yacht anymore... so sad :((

[@Juicexlx]

Exactly! How terrible is that?

[@4nlimited3dition_4n3d]

And normal people can't afford anything.

[@Decrepit_biker]

​Only bacause the system is built that way, it doesnt have to be...​@@4nlimited3dition_4n3d

[@JapanZen]

Japan has a condition called 過労死 (Karōshi) = Death by overwork. Britain needs something similar - I recommend this to explain it 政府の腐敗による精神疾患 (Seifu no fuhai ni yoru seishin shikkan) which means “Mental Illness caused by/exacerbated by government corruption” - please add to the British lexicon.

[@harrikangur]

There is an obsession with 'work' around the world. As if everyone should be working their entire lives. Why? Things should be done when/where necessary, not because 'everyone should be working'.

[@MantasasInHD]

because they cant profit off of your work and taxes if you arent working

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

If you ain't rich, you ain't sheet. That's just reality. No exceptions.

[@amandahunter4034]

It's just in case we actually have time to enjoy ourselves and think and share ideas with others about how the world could be better organised.

[@Robotron5000Deluxe]

You don't have to work if you don't want to but don't expect those who do to pay for you through their taxes.

[@suzKawasaki]

Where do you think roads, the medical system... everything, basically - comes from? From paying taxes into a society-based system. You want to enjoy the fruits of other's labour then.

[@user-uv9wv7kx1s]

Erodes the wealth of rich. Completely unacceptable

[@meh4770]

It also creates inflation which hurts all people.

[@4nlimited3dition_4n3d]

Most people in developed countries are "rich" when looking from the outside.

[@GM-oi4vg]

lazy brits

[@MyCamilla1989]

Erodes the primary savings of ordinary middle class people, more than anything else. The elite find ways to evade tax, middle class folk don't.

[@dahlia_day]

Richard Branson is skint. He needs a few more billion dollars by next year to be able to afford to grow out his magnificent hair.

[@DelaneyGilfillan]

You work for 40yrs to have $1m in your retirement, Meanwhile some people are putting just $10k in a meme coin for just few months and now they are multi millionaires. I pray that anyone who reads this will be successful in life

[@GodJesus-wh3ld]

How ..? Am a newbie in crypto investment, please can you guide me through on how you made profit?

[@PaulaEspinoza-js2tp]

Thanks to Mrs Maria Davis.

[@PaulaEspinoza-js2tp]

She's a licensed broker here in the states

[@kevinandrews4]

Wow I'm just shocked you mentioned Maria Davis, thought I'm the only one trading with her

[@Itswell948]

Trading without professional guide... Huh I laugh you, because you will remain where you are or even make huge losses that will stop you from trading, this has been one of the biggest problem to new traders

[@naomi5495]

I’d love to work more but I’m caring for a disabled person. The disabled person is supposed to be entitled to means tested social care, but despite needing 24/7 care, I get a max of 4hrs per week off over two days. There are not many jobs that will hire you for 2hrs work per day. I begged them to let me work more and they just tell you the social care budget won’t cover it. So do I leave the disabled person to die or do I care for them even though it means giving up a well-fought-for career? Unpaid carers save this country £162 billion per year - the country would be bankrupt without their unpaid labour. Every time a carer gives up because they’re too exhausted, that costs us collectively. Tories are sociopaths - it’s just facts that they’re letting us peasants die now; in long ambulance waits, long cancer diagnosis waits, scrapping of social care services for severely disabled people and so on. They’ve tanked the economy too so what exactly is their selling point for non-millionaire voters?

[@lorihenderson673]

Demand reassessment of care needs you are entitled to this by law. Demand your carers assessment is carried out by a qualified social worker. Demand more hours care, or you will resign from your caring role. Good luck incidentally. Have either an advocate with you or tell the SW you will record meeting as an aide memoir ❤

[@rafski-travels-1984]

The supermarkets are full of crap food what do you expect

[@aliasgur3342]

Labelling housewives as economically inactive and pressuring them to work is bang out of order

[@mylesm12923]

Pathetic! Bringing your third world view of women to the UK. It's why this country has gone down the toilet.

[@user-ds8rj2vc4v]

If their children are in school then they should be working.

[@ascgazz7347]

@@user-ds8rj2vc4v did you shit the bed or something? Why the shitty comments to strangers? Bot much?

[@boofuu3145]

@@user-ds8rj2vc4v mass migration , only 51% of the largest demographic that arrive work , source ONS

[@Manicpanicanticant]

​@@user-ds8rj2vc4vmate. The majority of unfilled jobs the brew want to push people like single mothers into are shitty retail jobs that require full flexibility. My sister worked 12-9pm and then 9am-6pm the next day. You make it sound like there's lots of jobs out there mother's can get that align perfectly with school hours and as if they don't have other things like cleaning and ironing clothes to do when their kids are at school

[@mariaszpanowska9395]

Guys we literally need to all refuse to work, sit outside parlaments untill political parties are dissolved, we organise people’s election in which no previous politician can run

[@NatiaMaisuradze-ey5iq]

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[@11chuckey]

9.2M economically inactive. 908,000 job vacancies. That means that it’s mathematically impossible for 8.2M to work. Our economy isn’t failing, it has failed. What do we do when there simply is no work for 8.2M people?

[@jps5980]

It's gonna get worse because of Ai , Even Bigheaded trade people who think they will never lose work to Ai , will still lose work if it's cheaper to get a Robot, Because Google have interested into Biomemory DNA HARD Drives , you can Basically put someone's Consciousness into a Robot, I think in 10 years, even Bigheaded Trade's people are gonna struggle if they gotta Compete with robots, people need to be Doing coding courses, or something to do with computers

[@GoogleAccount0]

Do you consider in your analysis those land and stock owners, who do not contribute to the economy, nor to the society, but leave of surpasses of their investments, or only those who have zero chances of owning anything despite full time job?

[@maximvs3834]

& they would never talk about moving towards a post scarcity economy because poverty is apparently neccessary, money is immoral but apparently we should all just get back to work as the corporations that profit most in this world slowly destroy the planet. These people are a disgrace and have no desire to create equity or a universal standard in quality of living.

[@23erisx]

Straight up!

[@BenWharfe-vr1pn]

I work a physical job for minimum wage. I drive an old car and make my own food for work. It costs me £40 per week to get to work and fuel myself, that’s £2000 per year just to go to work for minimum wage.My manager said he does not want to see me stood still unless it’s a official break, I get minimum wage. I can’t afford a mortgage or afford to have a family, what the hell am I working for, oh yes minimum wage.

[@gregvanpaassen]

Many of those "inactive" people are raising children, also known as investing in the future workforce. They should be paid for this, or at least to be able to write the costs of child-raising off their partner's tax. Just like businesses can write off the cost of investments.

[@Nijarrr]

More like raising children to be economically inactive for future. Children from parents on dole, would be likely the same to exploit the welfare system

[@MrLoobu]

Eventually, everyone will be working, yet no one will be buying anything.

[@Tommyleini]

Wonder how well an economy can do where most people can only afford to pay rent/mortgage/bills + food. No socialising, no travel, no buying clothes. Just survival on a full time wage

[@MrLoobu]

@Tommyleini I've been doing that for years now. Easily 95% of my purchases are bills, food and drink.

[@amandahunter4034]

That's exactly what wealthy people want - a return to the Victorian era where the majority of people worked for low wages to service wealthy people in their mines, mills, fishing fleets, gardens and as actual servants, and either had their own needs met in a meagre way, or had to buy what they needed on credit from shops owned by their employers.

[@underarmbowlingincidentof1981]

4 years of studying and I'm just letting go. I've got no community, no friends, no nothing. So who am I that I have to contribute to a society which does not care for me?

[@dominicfrain1265]

Because. They. Don’t. Pay. Enough. To. Incentivise.

[@StonedIn0z]

No such thing as economically inactive, even if you are spending your days messing around online and gaming or just playing on twitter, you are creating billions of dollars of value for giant corporations and even training the tools that will take most jobs in the form of AI. This is just them trying to hate on the people they have made disabled or jobless or damaged with their disgusting cruel society that isn't based on us being supportive of every tribe member..

[@Decrepit_biker]

The sick and disabled don't pay tax they say? Oh but they DO.... they pay tax on almost everything they buy, they pay tax on fuel, they pay tax on certain foods, certain household goods, on consumer electronics, on equipment to help with their illness or disability, they pay higher interest rates on loans because they're poor .... just because they don't pay income tax, doesn't mean they don't pay tax. There's plenty of other taxes that get paid indirectly. But that is conveniently over looked, as if you're not economically active you aren't propping up the system that keeps the rich, rich. The lie that you NEED a new car every 3 years and a phone every 2......that only exists to drive corporate profits. Also the majority of the poor people's money goes straight back into the economy, they use it to survive. Give a millionaire a tax break and they hide the money off shore and hoarde it. The sick and disabled don't.... they SPEND the money which is actually GOOD for the economy. Yet we still get the demonisation of the poor, the sick, the disabled.... and even the homemaker... heaven forbid that someone stays at home to look after family! GET BACK TO WORK!

[@nigh7swimming]

This is actually true, one cannot live a day without paying some tax.

[@cheeseoreos493]

Every retail job / basic job I apply to, receives a minimum of 100+ applicants each time, they have ridiculous applications system where you have to add information thats already on your CV and take Situational judgment tests. And then you never hear back from them

[@sieda666]

Can't speak for the UK, but as a "young" person of working age for the last 15 years in the US, I have to say that hopefully, it cripples the economy to the point where the status quo is no longer tenable and capitalism itself has to change. I speak for myself when I say my underemployment has been a deliberate choice made in response to abusive and exploitative working conditions, and the government/system of laws that protects the "ownership" class at the expense of poor and working class people. We are not slaves, we are not serfs, and we have a right to spend our lives working to better ourselves and the world around us - if it takes dropping out of the mainstream economy to achieve this for ourselves, so be it.

[@boofuu3145]

our problem is mass migration , our system not designed for it , one million new people a year means raised house prices and rents , lowered wages , limited services such as health and education , add to that the largest demographic that arrive only 51% work and pay tax , which i can back up with source , 51% muslims are employed , source ONS

[@TSHEKHAN]

The working class is beginning to realize life is easier on government assistance than working a 9 to 5. Not going to be rich, so who cares about work😅😅😅

[@brent4073]

Ya this is how we become Venezuela.. more money printing. We need to go back on the gold standard.

[@eyesontoast1105]

Solve the incentives and it will improve. Too many spools of yarn been spun, people have a limit to the amount of crap they are willing to deal with. Return housing and you'll get more families and more workers. Its a simple equation but greed refuses to see reality.

[@BloodMoonASMR]

It would help if employers didn't waste our time and lead us on, posting job vacancies with 16 interview stages with no plan of hiring for an unsurvivable minimum wage. It's almost as if there should be worker protection laws there!

[@e.barratt6961]

1 in 10 covid infections end in long covid. Most likely to be affected? Working age people. We need to address covid, this isn’t sustainable.

[@kidicaruz]

Economically inactive? WTF? Am i the only one here who thinks that this eupemism is fucked up and disrespectful to people who are just poor and cant afford the bullshit corporations and society wants to sell them?

[@somewhereinspace2166]

I found it super weird that this is implying it's inappropriate for students, the retired and disabled to not be working. Like is someone suppose to quit college because parliament needs them working at McDonald's for $7 an hour? Are disabled suppose to just magically stop being disabled? The old should just stop being old? At this rate, they're going to be bringing child labor back. Seems like common sense and morality is going out the window.

[@thizda]

UK doesn't have a labour shortage, it has a pay shortage.

[@robertguildford]

Look at all the empty shops in all the towns and cities across our nation. BUT FOR, the internet all these premises would be filled with workers. Where are all the high st Banks? Gone because of the internet. If you nationalised the internet then charged for all the companies and advertisers rates to replace the rates the local councils lost because of internet shopping. You would go a long way to reviving the high streets and create jobs again.

[@amyclay8961]

Those in their early 20s were probably in their late teens during the pandemic. No wonder they're struggling, they were old enough to know what's going on but too young to have developed enough resilience to recover from that.

[@annapacyniak3940]

Please claiming depression most of those people don't have clue what depression is, I know a lad who says that not working sittings on benefits in their parents house. Claims like that should be checked!!

[@jungleboy1]

record job vacancies my ass. Hardly any jobs out there about a dozen people applying for each role.

[@1TimBaugh]

This government has made life increasingly difficult for those with health problems and those at the bottom of the employment ladder. And now they would like to make things even harder by targeting these unfortunate people, though in fact it is this rapacious and greedy government which has caused or exacerbated many of their problems. And this in a government whose extremely rich and privileged members wouldn't understand the position of people who are struggling even if they wanted to. But they clearly don't want to. They are contemptible.

[@public.public]

WRONG QUESTION so... What type of economy increases the number of ’economically inactive’ people?

[@MyCamilla1989]

For me, working in the UK was mentally draining more than anything else, primarily because all my bosses were sassy, miserable, sarcastic or passive aggressive at best. Now I'm in the US, for all of its other problems, being at work and interacting with my bosses feels like playtime at nursery school. So, I can channel all my energy towards getting work done without drama.

[@everest9707]

The focus needs to be on the health, well being, and happiness of the UK population. Address these, and there will be fewer young people suffering from long term health conditions, especially mental health.

[@everest9707]

MENTAL HEALTH BURDEN The effects of a lot of the pressures below, are seen in a rapid increase in mental health problems across all ages, but especially in the young working adults, adults who should if anything, be the most resilient of society. Regardless of political party, many in the UK have lost faith that the government and the civil service will stop the uncontrolled legal migration - note that is legal, the side of migration that we most have control over. The effects of uncontrolled migration are seen in: - increase of people on benefits. See the governments data of unemployment by ethnicity - despite the image fed to us, white British have the lowest unemployment rate compared to all other ethnicities. - artificially lowering the minimum wage due to an abundance of cheap imported labour. We have parts of the indigenous population that rely heavily on low paid low skilled jobs, and they are having to compete with people who are used to earning below the poverty level of Africa, Indian Subcontinent, Middle East etc - increase in house prices and rental prices - more building on our protected Green Belt land due to the housing pressure - more building on existing buildings and causing social tension as people live cheek by jowl. Legislation has been relaxed to encourage this in building. The UK already has some of the smallest homes, compared to Europe. - increase in violence and crime. There is a general increase, plus some which is specific to certain ethnicities. Knife (and machete) crime is more frequent, however whilst it captures the headlines, many other forms of crime, not typical to the indigenous population are flourishing. The Asian (Indian subcontinent) honour killings, and grooming gangs rap_ing/assaulting/drugging white children. - increased demand for extra policing, in the tens of thousands (look at the different police force's online wanted pictures, there is a disproportionately higher number of foreign criminals, especially as a proportion of the population) - increased demand for prison officers, and prison buildings (look at the prison population, where there is again a disproportionately higher number of foreign criminals, as a proportion of the population). We are already releasing criminals early, and not imprisoning others, due to a lack of prison places! And the increase in taxes to pay for these services and buildings. - increased demand on the judiciary. Our courts are blocked with massive queues, and everything is done to delay cases going to the CPS or going to court. We have a lack of staff and buildings. Very serious cases are rarely reaching the CPS or courts, or take years to go through the system. This causes a lack of justice, an increased risk to the population as criminals continue to live amongst us, and it encourages crime (justice needs to be swift to act as a deterrent). - the loss of our capital city London. It is now predominantly populated by people who self identify as belonging to an ethnic minority. You rarely hear English spoken! This will impact tourism - a quarter of a million people work in the tourism sector in London alone. - greater difficulty in seeing a healthcare professional, especially one that speaks fluent clear English, be it a GP, Consultant, or dentist - hospitals frequently declaring emergencies, as their A&E queues of ambulances with patients stuck in them grow longer. Even hospitals, in areas with a vast majority of white British population, if you go to the A&E it will be full of people from the middle east, Indian subcontinent, and Africa. Often you won't hear English being spoken! - increased burden of disabled children, on healthcare, special education needs, and benefits (both for disability, and for the unemployed parents that stay at home caring for their disabled children), unnecessarily caused by cousin marriage, from people from the Indian subcontinent - lack of school and university places. Pressures to change what is being taught, to suit a minority religious population - the enormous congestion on all our roads. Even country lanes, which were once peaceful, have now become rat runs - religious and social tension, especially from ethnicities that are not interested in integrating - increased suffering of female children subjected to FGM and child marriage - increased distortion of UK elections, as women from the Indian subcontinent lose their vote to their husbands - loss of money spent in the UK economy, as migrants send it back to their countries of origin MORAL QUESTION - is it morally right to import cheap labour to be exploited? And what about those skilled migrants, eg nurses and doctors, that are actually needed in their own country. Is it morally right for the UK to benefit from poorer countries paying to educate and train skilled workers? FINANCIAL BURDEN In March 2024, the UK National Debt is over £2.90 trillion! Watch it growing in real time: www.nationaldebtclock.co.uk BIRTH RATE FALSE THEORY Some people believe in the theory, that we need to import people because of our lower birth rate, and that there is certain work that we don't want to do. This ignores the fact that we need to increase productivity, especially with automation/robotics/AI (Artificial Intelligence), because other countries will certainly be investing in this, and all of these REDUCE job vacancies - there will be fewer jobs in the near future! Our population might not apply for very low paid jobs, eg picking fruit, or nursing the elderly, but that is because the rates of pay are ridiculously low. Pay a fair wage in an economy that doesn't tilt the table by importing cheap labour! Young indigenous couples, avoid having children because they cannot afford to have them, or don't have the economic and housing stability that they need. This responsible approach to reproducing, is not shared by migrants coming to the UK - they are prepared to live in poverty, and have their families subsidised by the UK taxpayer. WHAT CAY YOU DO? Please watch, action, and share this Simon Webb KZbin video: A Parliamentary petition to suspend immigration to Britain for five years And vote for Reform UK. Regardless of if you think this will give the results that we need, it is important for people to see, that there are many others who share their concerns, and this is one very simple and quick way to do it. Many thanks, and don't forget to share👍

[@LaughSafarii]

Or maybe people are just sick of working to have nothing to see by the end of it.

[@user-bi8ko7kc6h]

My part time job is below 1.2k a month and they are including me inside the unemploy bracket according to the work and pension department 😂😂😂

[@sarafreitas6988]

Why are retired people ebing included in this statistic? They already worked, that's why they aren't working. Same with students, most aren't allowed to work. Really strange to included these groups. Is it to inflate the numbers? Because if you are looking on the actual number of people that could be consider is actually 3.9 million. If you are retired, a student or looking after family (means you do that because it is cheaper to have someone at home) you should not be included.

[@Little-bird-told-me]

I am also jobless for 10 years. Now I don't want to work

[@micaiahm1]

Lazy ass

[@ghosthdel3098]

Same, i havent work since i was 35yo. Now that i am 50 i dont see the point of working and getting taxed. I live modestly, dont wear branded clothes but by savings up from the benefits money i could go on holiday to magaluf and tennerife at least once a year. Let the kids who want to work work and getting taxed but for me i would rather get free money.

[@mylesm12923]

@@ghosthdel3098 You can't be a real person! This is exactly why I left the UK permanently after graduating uni.

[@aeliusromanus9338]

​@@mylesm12923yes, he is a real person.

[@carlbland68]

thank god u left @@mylesm12923

[@bbcisaids6727]

The cost of living due to the cost of LOCKDOWNS!!! 😊

[@TechyCatz]

Jobs are a lot more demanding these days. My uncle who was a mail man for years said he wasn’t going to retire because he liked doing it but then they started implementing trackers, and pushing for greater efficiency. I think this happens at a lot of jobs as I am seeing companies cut jobs and combining roles thus doubling work loads for no extra pay. My last two jobs everyone was extremely unhappy.

[@AKAPART]

Weirdly enough, I’ve not been in a career for the past 12 years. My life has been chaotic due to many ups and downs and specifically ill health. I’ve now lost a lot of weight. Gone back to Uni dropped out went back again and was only able to get a diploma. You can’t claim benefits either if you have savings of around £3000 and plus I don’t ever want to. I’m working to build myself online and have built a good foundation to grow on. I think this could be a potential blind spot the government have failed to see. They should really have an alternative approach to millennials too and support them with a grant to start up as an independent creator like they did with their campaign to get the UK online a while back. I still don’t earn enough and am living at home something I’ve been trying to leave for a long time. I’ve volunteered on and off in between. Other than that, I also had long covid and bad anxiety. I think apprenticeships don’t work either as you have to have all GCSE’s of 5 subjects at a-c grades that means it’s pretty difficult to get anywhere.

[@Makalon102]

£3000? universal credit & esa limit is £16,000, pip has no limit

[@DeanSchofield-jb3hp]

Delayed my mum's cancer treatment in favour of botched covid decisions, won't be using any more of my life to help the 'economy'. Try and make me!

[@Bingo12331]

While I’m sorry about your mum, why should you not contribute. You are a bloodsucker off people who work and pay taxes

[@Juicexlx]

@@Bingo12331 UK Caribbeans Tax Heavens would like to have a word with you? Are you a corporate Lawyer, advising the nepotism babies of the higher crust how to avoid paying Millions in taxes, while you watch your investments in these same corporations grow? Congratulations. Now, buzz-off!

[@DanteLovesPizza]

Any reason to sit at home and be a bum. Pretty sure even without your mother's incident, you'd still drum up an excuse, like, "can't work, got a pet bee to look after."

[@ellensamir374]

They probably get more from benefits than working at a minimum wage. And the working people pay for them, see the council tax bill is rising at many places.

[@mrtuber3491]

When it pays more to be off work. People will choose what works for them.

[@torpi6675]

Oh nooo. Who could have predicted that 😂 🤔 when I told people 4 years back don't worry about the jabs worry about the wars coming and brainwashed new generations people called me looney 🤪🤪🤪 and we are all screwed now 😉

[@jadewillis1892]

Same. I also said COVID was intentionally released and man made right off the bat. Everyone also called me crazy. Until the evidence supporting my claim started to slowly leak out over the one/two years following

[@karlbristow1223]

Birmingham is what happens when you have too many economically inactive people. A bankrupt council propped up by the taxes of those who actually do work. But let's not let the uber rich and landlords off in this country. They've contributed to a demoraliisation of the people who see no point in trying in this unaffordable environment.

[@meglobob9217]

I work part time atm and would like another 2nd job or a full time job but employers seem only interested in youger workers in there 20's + 30's and also agencies do not help 9/10 agencies are terrible and probably put off people looking for work because of how badly they are treated by agencies.

[@brainfog307]

I’m on benefits and I pay tax too always done

[@Decrepit_biker]

We pay tax on everything we buy. Even the stuff that doesn't have vat .. as the company is later taxed on thier profits from the sale of those goods. Its just another con to wring more out of the poor for the rich

[@Argh989]

Says something about society when people don't want to live with their own family.

[@AlderCones]

to that 'of the past'?! population grows, so does the corresponding numbers of different types of people. You can't force all those who are unfit for work to work. Employment is not a legal requirement.

[@Juicexlx]

Wherever you look in the Commonwealth countries, the Tories have always had that authoritarian tinge to them...And also, an incredible amount of hypocritical arrogance. The ''do as I say. Don't do as do'' crowd. It's only getting worse, because the people funding their political campaigns are getting richer and richer by decades. Now, if you look at the USA, this phenomenon has reached peak corruption with the revolting help of their crackpot religion. The ''Dominionists''. You have no idea how extreme these people are.

[@calvinaitkin-sf9up]

With some health problems now being given labels which they never had before and with those problems being given monetary benefits which allow people to exit the employment system its no surprise that numbers working are going down.

[@JaidenJimenez86]

A large part of this is due to low quality of jobs available. I'm looking to get off agency and into permanent employment, but many job listings are advertising at or below £12ph, which is about £5-6ph lower than the typical wage for the same job.

[@IamMichelle88]

That they may try to handle* , two or three decades of that can cause sickness and inability to not get help can cause heightened symptoms of pain or physical sickness reactions to stress and being ignored and abused

[@babalonkie]

"The tighter your grip, the more grains of sand that will fall through your fingers". 14 Years of cuts to pay, healthcare, social care, pensions and human rights. 14 Years of increased working hours, reduced contract security and prices doubling every few years. 31 million to MP security is because in just a few years... if it continues... not even the British Military will be able to stop the public flattening parliament and Buckingham palace... and no façade of "changing the regime" will stop it.

[@seasonmists]

The problem with mental health is, it's categorised as a disability and potentially work related personal injury, so employers can't do anything about it, can't even pay the sick pays, but are forced to pay full pays.

[@kamolhengkiatisak1527]

I like 3 minutes discussion of key terms from BBC.

[@Juicexlx]

Lol! Aren't we all? It's kind of of thin in analyses...And shoddy work, overall.

[@richpoorworstbest4812]

get a job.... even if it's a bum job for a bit.... Sitting down does little for mental health

[@MrKingmobster]

Looking for work can be very stressful therefore causes anxiety and mental health issues!!

[@amymohanty1045]

Work place condition is gone back to cotton factory era...heavy work load, low pay and low work culture, mandatory vaccination, discrimination, list can go on and on...people worry that so many people are unemployed because the tax return is low .. That is the vocal point, treated as tax cow...

[@domonikoldham7387]

i cant even stand up with out a headache fuck

[@user-rg7uh9se4c]

OT:Benny Hill considered funnier than Monty Python by two TV stations --WOR and WLVI!

[@learningearning8385]

They are sick of work. As a call center rep for a retail store..I don’t blame them. Being yelled at all day…I’ve had to use several pto days for wellness.

[@seanmark2674]

I worked through everything during covid as a key worker, it obliterated the grasp I had over my mental health. I got 1 counselling session and that’s it, the government don’t care so why should I.

[@MistaMoney91]

Left behind and forgotten. Theres no money to pay everyone a decent wage. Theres no industry in the UK. No steel mills, no mines, no shipyards.

[@lisahodges8299]

And how do we value those people who grow better good in their allotments, care for children whilst others work, the family member who repairs the clothing? Shall we ever place a value on them? Birdy

[@MarcLiron]

Another vile hit piece by the BBC.... You actually included the retired to bolster your stats ☹

[@bubbaho-tep1875]

Maybe the royal family is hiring. They have 450 people just to manage their personal money. Let that sink in for a minute. Love and understanding from America.

[@pakman443]

yeh one of them its also hard enough and now its even more harder to find a job so people dont bother anymore do some thing about that to

[@thegrandestbazaar4800]

I fail to understand how we still permit living in a world with money when there are absolutely no benefits that couldnt be achived with a good system. Shame people are too greedy to see that

[@ANXENON]

if the rich payed their taxes maybe we could have a conversation.

[@desidesigning]

Give me one.

[@mk91-vz1oj]

Opting out, and i don't blame them

[@aysenuri2419]

It’s a lie. Canadian here. They make us do multiple unpaid (school credit) internships that we work full time at, in order to be eligible for the job. That’s almost 1 year of complete unpaid full time work. How do they expect us to pay for anything, the car the bus the parking the food the education. It’s ridiculous. It should be illegal. The requirements keep going up. The benefits don’t exist.

[@arslanasad5980]

All comes down to people are not willing to work hard, they expect higher wages without gaining the experience and skills. Cost of living is higher compared to previous generations but it’s still possible to live a better life

[@bog6106]

when the problem ask you what the problem is

[@Badger8200]

If work paid then that would solve a lot of issues.

[@Awesomes007]

Low wages, poor working conditions, lack of worker and consumer protection, Long Covid sufferers… there are very few, if any, people that get up every day and don’t want to work and do their best. 💪

[@zeitgeist5134]

I do wonder how many of those not working due to illness are suffering Long COVID, and how many are suffering undiagnosed Long COVID. Long COVID is an insidious disease usually affecting people who had only a mild bout of COVID, and usually not causing distress until well after "recovery".

[@paul8058]

I've used and abused the mental health brush and im not ashamed to say it. Its too easy especialy with drs who are overstretched and will just sign you off. I'm 3 out of a team of 12 at my insurance company who are currently signed off with mental health, and i know one of them is blagging it as he was the one who explained how easy it is, which prompted me. Big companies barrage us with all this woke stuff and mental health so i took advantage of it. I've been off 13 months, and the first 9 were full pay. Now im on ssp and top up benefits, and you know what? You can more than survive.

[@w3s77]

But UK is diverse.

[@flobba123]

im 31 and i never gotten a job where i get a paycheck. i have applied around 100 jobs gonna get a collegee degree now and then apply 1000 jobs. Like do i gotta learn rocket science in order to get a job at mcdonalds!?