What Does it Take to Design a Product From Scratch?

[@gixxerkid3120]

As a fellow Plasma Table owner for my fab shop in California, I'm very relieved to see that I'm not the only one battling lead-in and pierce point blemishes, and small hole issues (out of round). (44:45) on the close up turn table shot. I have made/ designed many tab and slot items and I have noticed that there isn't a set amount of offset that translates across different material thicknesses. It's kinda nice to know that other Fabricators deal with similar issues using different software and different tables as well. In my cut software the table will jump around a lot more to different cuts on different spots of the sheet than yours did. Maybe you can set that in the shopsabre software to help with warping of the sheet. I have cut full sheets of 14G-18G with little to no warping.... (Side question: When will we see the new belt fed EZ Sander that you guys will want for removing dross on all those parts faster ? Does Vevor offer one yet ?? ( Walker is dialing the phone right now lol) good video, keep up the good work. 👍

[@scottd8097]

I love the channel. Keep up the entertaining content. The next item you should sell is the dxf files for those brackets. Lots of us watch your channel for the cnc plasma content because we too have a small cnc plasma table. Watching you helps us learn...... and I think there is a market for selling the dxf files.

[@wvrockcrusher]

Nice looking brackets! I like the idea of the un-assembled version for those of us that can weld, but don't have a Shop Sabre to cut them out. Stainless or aluminum versions would maybe generate some interest as well as incorporating some hanging hooks on the bottom of the bracket, although more expensive to produce. Would a 16" O.C. modular mounting system make any sense for multiple mounting widths of the brackets to allow movement for different arrangements of shelves? Sort of like a French cleat system in some respect. Just thinking out loud.

[@delswanson3593]

I agree!

[@fredericorusso]

This is the best video and subject you guys have done. Congratulations on building inspiring and unique products in the USA.

[@chriskelly3678]

Though 💡 smaller Bubble non welded kits. Able to use in Shop to hang things from the "Bubles" or store rods between the two shelf brackets. Utility meets Art.

[@chriskelly3678]

*More Smaller bubbles on same size brackets

[@Flako-dd]

cool that you got hillbilly Robert Downey Jr. working on the project! btw floating shelves are so over. love the brackets!

[@BrunoVanVaerenbergh]

Would making the back plane in one piece and folding it 90 degrees, make for an easier fit?

[@arcrad]

You should do some load testing on the various designs so you can post an approximate weight rating for each bracket style.

[@markpinkstaff2287]

I just did this. Powder coat before test fitting, of course this would be for non welded stuff…..

[@MyLilMule]

The brackets looks great. I'd use some panhead wood screws instead of a drywall screw unless you're going to countersink the holes.

[@AdrianHiggins83]

Install a small air tank next to the plasma cutter should help with the supply.

[@p.t.anderson1593]

I came here to say the same thing but also add in a check valve in the supply to the reservoir. I'm thinking an air tank from a semi truck.

[@davidgiesfeldt6650]

I’m building four lake cottages and want to showcase art work. I just bought four pair for live edge bath towel shelves. AWESOME!

[@theworldsadancefloor]

You can totally "weld" 3d prints :) A soldering iron with some filament trimmings, or a 3D pen will let you draw a "weld bead" quickly if you're printing in PLA or ABS. I've gotten away with PETG in my pen, but it is pushing the temperature limit for my Mynt3d pro pen.

[@rickfazzini22]

I’m literally in my shop manufacturing motorcycle parts while watching this! You guys are great

[@MichaelRoachWV]

I'm only 10 mins in, but why not combine the flat bar section to one piece and bend it? You have the 90 degrees on the angle to reference.

[@tilkphone]

You can’t get a sharp corner with a bent part. Also the math to get the slots and tabs in the correct locations is more difficult.

[@unibeastbeats]

exactly my tought. why are they overcomplicating this.

[@MichaelRoachWV]

@@tilkphone I was just thinking because I remembered they have a hydraulic press brake. He could also add a radius to the gusset, and then the gusset becomes it's own fixture for tacking. Most of the commercial brackets I've got are constructed like this. The sharp corner isn't really necessary and is hidden by the shelf.

[@biltwellironco]

One thing you'll find out is that Enroute sucks... But try adjusting your kurf width and slow down your feed rate, I use those fine cut cartridges on .188" all the time. The first thing I learned when I got my Shopsabre was you'll get better cuts running 80-60% default feed rate. insert and delete keys on your keyboard while your controller is open will adjust feed rate without having to adjust your gcode.

[@kenny_speaks]

This is a great first product and at a really good price! I hope the sales are going well! A cheap test to see alternative markets (think etsy like places) would be to use white & more-pastel colors (photoshop? haha) and with flowerpots and stuff because outside your channel you want to be marketing to the wives (who make all the decisions on what cute things they want installed in the house). Husbands will be happy to see handmade-in-virginia when installing a sturdy metal bracket. My main tip here is, when trying e-commerce.. if things don't go amazing out the gate, dont get discouraged, and rather than trying to find a solution on the product-side you must understand that the problem you need to solve is getting someone to see an image and click on it. Then with solidly built items, you'll also get return customers. I wish you all great success, I really have enjoyed seeing your progress throughout the years with Lift Arc Studio. - Kenny

[@amunderdog]

Everything is black. Colors will make you stand out. It is a logistical nightmare though.

[@garyross3659]

Great video guys! One reason for an unwelded Kit would be to big is beginner guys a cool practice project that would look good and be something that would be useful.

[@itsnotlevel2]

You guys need a tumbler for all that dross......

[@810Metalworks]

Awesome stuff! I’ve had some ideas for shelf brackets myself for a while now! Does Wyatt still work with you guys? I kind of miss seeing him on the channel

[@ITSlatinlady]

Hello, why don't you do one with hearts? I will bet guys would like to build shelves for their love ones. Good work guys. Love the show

[@jadroppers]

Nice work guys! Sorry but I was wondering, why the back plate is not made out of one pice and then bent in the middle to 90 degrees. Then you can click the middel pice in the plate.

[@paulclark5472]

would be good to countersink the screw holes for aesthetical purposes and maybe provide screws and plugs.

[@bradfeatherstone1775]

Also sell pretty screws to the brackets. Makes the BOM bigger, but all in one makes it easier to sell. Sorry about the first post, but I wrote is early in the film.

[@davidschultz9980]

Great video. Keep it up. How do you get your small holes done soooo very precisely??? They look awesome. They are very round and don’t look like an egg shape…

[@cae2487]

Should have given spike a bastard file and told him to get to work cleaning up the dross on those edges. Told him its step 1 of becoming a fabricator. After cleaning up parts like that for a couple weeks then introduce him to the angle grinder and/or belt grinder lol haha

[@CGT80]

Pool acid will eat most of the dros, then I weld and blast with aluminum oxide to provide key for powder coating or paint. Fine cut tips work fine for 1/8" sheet but I do use the reduced speed fine cut settings for the hypertherm 65. The table I built has a very precise torch height control system and that can also make a big difference in cut quality. The water level also makes a difference....higher water reduced warping, especially if the water touches the sheet, but more of an air gap can reduce the dross. I have been through the same thing with running test cuts to figure out the variables so I can make multiples of parts. It is a process and even the big shops (I have talked to the VP of manufacturing for a major safe company about a tab and slot setup in 3/8" plate) have said they do the same for high definition plasma.

[@funone8716]

If you're going to get into production of parts that size you'll save a ton of clean up time with a Timesaver belt sander

[@jimysk8er]

would you be able to make quarter inch wide tabs with a close fit that could be mushroomed out into the slot with a punch? and if the two bases were one piece with a relief cut they could be bent in batches. if your tabs are shorter than the thickness of your plate it could set you up for two to four really easy welds that have good pen and are hidden once installed so no extra finish work.

[@Kawika88]

The metal guru has spoken!!

[@bearsstuff]

In the video it looks like bare metal is clear coated. Is it possible to get them unfinished? And I didn’t see the option to get them unassembled.

[@daveloderhose874]

When will you have time to produce. In between custom jobs?

[@johnhufnagel]

I'd love to see sets not welded, because reasons. :D (hint... kid!)

[@michaelfontana9932]

Make the 90 degree part 1 piece instead of 2 and bend the 90. That way the tabs hold it together to weld

[@bigjarn]

don't forget to add stock from rack to table time , is there a liability involved?

[@SublimePlayboy]

What is the load capacity for the shelves?

[@aciid_0]

no hate on you but real nerds would run this through load simulation and algorithms alike before figuring out how to mass produce a product that will support a bookshelf but not a floating porcelain toilet, hehe

[@jasengibbens3631]

Hi I am a school teacher in Indiana to cut down on on grinding next thing you guy could get a water jet.

[@ronnydidit]

"Bubbles" might become your best seller since one can hang things on it

[@mattmax8599]

Really love yall's videos. Would love to see the shop sometime.

[@henningmogensen9144]

To clarify: the upper two holes one higher than the other.

[@jimysk8er]

Coasters or decal in the empty circles?

[@jamesdrayon8733]

Look into stamping the wall parts and no dose

[@b0rd3n]

Looks like a welding student project

[@johnlebeau1]

I would like the weld it your self version

[@chepeloc28]

Very cool well done congrats 🎉

[@bigstelone]

Tolerance is not the same as clearance

[@bigjarn]

The scrap cuts are marketable !

[@MrCherokeejeep]

could be awesome bookends also

[@fishrgal1244]

Market these as island cabinet corbels too. When designing my kitchen makeover I search for something just like thesefor support/asthetics for the 18 to 20 inch overhang on my island. BTW I am 73 year old grammy that has watched your channel since beginning. Your grp is entertaining.

[@bradfeatherstone1775]

Do not forget to build permanent welding jigs for the brackets that have the same tabbing. Maybe an insertable depth plate for the fancy, pretty part. Knock it together out of wood for each metal thickness - 5 - 6 parts each. I have been using Tigerform from Menard's lately since it is 11 ply and way cheaper than baltic birch.

[@mrdddeeezzzweldor5039]

This is one of the most interesting segments that LAS has produced. Great new additions to the cast of characters and the results are nice. One suggestion from my metal finishing experience - try Benchmark's stripper disks. They make overall metal smoothing easy and leave a nice finish, though they do tend to shred if used on heavy dross or sharp edges. On the sales page, how about offering a 6" long #2 philips bit and maybe a 6" T25 torx for setting screws near the angle.

[@tylerpuccio9883]

If I didn’t love the mountains of Utah/west coast so much I’d drop everything to come work for you guys. This is my dream job.

[@chrisjames6349]

Fixturing - Hey I do some similar design and make furniture to sell. I have a small wood cutting router and cut out ply fixtures with the space cut out to reach the tabs for welding. They last ages and take only a few minutes to cut out if you need more. As for welding I have shims of a known thickness so you put the right angle pieces in, put in the support bracket and then put the shin underneath and then clamp it to the fixture and fixture table. It can then be welded without having to move any clamps and it’s all square and true. It takes a few seconds to weld up one.

[@henningmogensen9144]

When mounting them on a wall the option of which hole to use is nessary. In a brickwall you can't allways put the bracket over a brick with hole at the same height. Make the hole distance so the bottom and top is brick (+mortar) distance. Futhermore in plasterboard you somrtimes need to use all holes to make it secure to the wall.

[@aerodesic1]

This showed up as I was looking for some new shelf brackets for some hefty shop shelves. These will be perfect. Thanks and good luck on selling more!

[@SchysCraftCo.]

Very awesome video tay and the gang. Can’t wait to see more updates and projects and many more videos soon. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend’s. Fab on. Weld On. Keep Making. God Bless.

[@bollera.bolljr2414]

Hey Tey , great idea for a different type of wall bracket . I was just pondering the idea of the horizontal and vertical pieces being made as one , and just doing a bend at the 90 degree section , than just a tack weld on the back side where the scroll pc fits .I think the scroll pc would be held in compression , and just two tack welds where you originally have them would be sufficient . Any way love the show !

[@MegaGingahNinja]

Those fine cut heads should do fine. We use those at work quite often. Maybe investigate/play around with amperage and federate a little bit (more power and/or slower feedrate)

[@grandmajosephine383]

Tay has his own Mini Me.

[@lunchman84]

you can make the two pieces into one a cut like a + and bend it 90 degrees. just deflect it a bit and the brace can snap in

[@lunchman84]

and for the pierceings, usally you can select in cam to make prepiercing with a worn nozzle then use like a shapened flatbar on a rod to scrape the slag off. then change to a new nozzle and it makes a offset from the hole and treats it like edgestart

[@chrishead1901]

Great work! Awesome how you made your cnc to be a money maker on its own while you do other projects. Love the videos. Keep it up!

[@srenfreiesleben1028]

Really cool video guys, and nice to see the Sabre on a fairly big project :)

[@t3ck3r]

You all had too much fun 😄 making those 😊. Can't wait see the project 😊.

[@melgross]

I really like all of the designs. I would have a problem deciding if it were for one shelf. If it were for several, I’d take different designs for each.

[@evilsurge1994]

Great video. Love the brackets. I ordered 2 pairs of the Rain Drop.

[@jr3628]

might need to change the lead in on the torch cuts as its still leaving marks in the finished pieces. the larger cutouts might need more of a lead in to establish the cut without digging into the "finished" side.

[@someyoungguy6990]

Have you thought of bronzing your shelf brackets with heat and a brass wire wheel the same way blade smiths use on knives. In my mind's eye that would give the perfect old school charm to some of your creations!

[@LiftArcStudios]

we have a lot to still explore when it comes to metal coating, was just talking to a cerakote guy yesterday, lots to try!

[@someyoungguy6990]

@@LiftArcStudios Now that sounds cool! I only thought of it because of it's low cost and if it worked for Man At Arms it would sure work for you guys! Side note, are you still keen for stickers for your new welding cabinet ?

[@greekgods3399]

love it

[@carymartz8762]

Now you send drawings to China and they make them for 10 bucks a pair, or you make them for 10 bucks a piece just in material.

[@whatdoyouthinktodd]

Well it's apparent You don't watch your edited video all the way through. Otherwise you would notice that Ty is in a competition with your background music which is always too loud. Great shelf brackets love the colors.

[@gwhether1326]

Love these. Are the bare metal clear coated for rust prevention? Any idea on weight capacity per pair?

[@LiftArcStudios]

So the bare metal can certainly be clear coated if requested! We decided to leave the raw metal ones truly raw so that we could offer a discounted price and to allow customers to paint it whatever colors they see fit for their space. I’ll see if we can update the site at some point soon to offer both raw and clear coat options! Thanks for watching! - Walker Edit: as far as weight capacity, we will be having a weight test video within the next week or two! Keep your eyes peeled for that! But we are pretty certain the brackets will outlast any plaster, studs, or mounting screws no matter what you put on it…

[@PHILWORX]

Down with the thickness 🎉

[@Dutchmadness1]

I am sorry but that hair.

[@BruceFindlay-kv5gr]

bracket are great! Lift Arc Studios needs to be on the bracket

[@williammcrae3177]

Next item to add to the shop would be small wide belt metal sander. Oh and don’t forget to expand on uses for the scrap pieces of metal. I see a possible wall mounted coat rack using your scrap pieces for the hook portion using your tab feature.

[@jamesvanhoose3132]

Ink an American manufacturer. And you forgot one thing. Shipping. The whole process changes fast depending on item size, weight and or finish. My process is at first it's a free design. After I get that close I start looking at nesting on a plate. After that boxes. Sometimes I can use an in stock box vs a custom one if I just change the design a little. Every step is very important. Especially being a small shop. Thanks.

[@ninjaskitches]

You can "weld" 3d prints with a 3d print pen. Use the same filament and it sticks nicely