What Gives? Why I Don't Promote Custom Statues On My Channel!

[@dragontast]

I understand. Being professional gives you the opportunity to bring great exclusive content to us and sometimes giveaways that we might not have if you don't respect companies that go through the proper legal channels etc. Great work and content as always.

[@BatmanStatueCollector]

Being professional is important to me. Doing things the right way might not make everyone happy, but I'm doing what is best for me and the channel.

[@Cinematic-Statues]

So how much did David Finch pay DC for those artworks he made for you? What was their cut from the proceeds? It's basically the same thing . He's profiting from DC by making creations based on their IP without paying them.

[@Dyon_Cole_QuietStorm]

To be honest, this seems more so a video crafted as damage control and reassuring sponsorship from this week’s fallout over anything else.

[@BatmanStatueCollector]

Just simply responding to a message in the group from this week.

[@KurtisJoseph]

To be honest, I think it is important to properly establish such boundaries. I am not aware of any fallout, but I still watched the video. After watching I see the importance of establishing such boundaries. It helps to refine the types of people in your audience as well. That is not to say there are not great and awesome people out there working with custom stuff. However, those who are not good people in this sort of hobby are found in that niche. I make Batman cowls. It is fan art. When one is done... I post it. If it sells I make another. I will rotate my casting designs. You get folks that take pre-orders for 500 cowls. Then something happens and people do not get the 300 dollar mask they paid for. It sucks. Those grey areas suck. That is why I do not do it. I make what I can. If it sells I make one to have for my display. It continues that way. Also, my stuff has no logo. It is Darkest Knight or Bat-Dude. It ain't Batman. Batman? At any rate guys like me know that our stuff is not usually going to go next to licensed collectibles. Our stuff is found deep in the storage trunks of cosplayers, or nerdy college kids display stands trying to convince their girlfriends they are Batman.

[@KurtisJoseph]

People get ripped off. Outside of proper licenses stuff happens that is not insured. It is just risky. That is all.

[@Warrior_1313]

Well said

[@imbetterthanyou9364]

Yet your wall art is basically the same thing. Sorry, bruh, can’t have it both ways, my dude.

[@stevenb3899]

Hey Chris, good topic. During your talk I was noticing all the custom art on your wall in back of you, which you often talk about on your channel. Is there a difference between custom art and custom status in regard to licensing?

[@stevenb3899]

“Custom statues”

[@michelrivolta]

Let me ask you something and this is an honest question, do the graphic artists you buy from actually pay big companies from the art they sell? Just asking....

[@MoneyMachine-o5n]

"Your perspective on custom statues is such a fresh take. The insight about balancing art with accessibility really hit home-this was a game-changer for me!"

[@BatmanStatueCollector]

Thank you so much 🤘

[@markherman1211]

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[@Thehumblecollectoruk]

Wow what a debate and commites .i find it hard as follower of your channel for many years and i live rogues gallery .that you sit there and condridict yourself of respect for lisence companys etc .then say you have three custums in your collection .the down side is it legit companys will have ut prices up or lay workers off if custum companys make them without permition .you cant sit on fence and surely these legit companys should stop sending things to review .interesting debate

[@PhilipGarcia-b4f]

If Chris talked about customs, He would lose All His Endorsements ; after all Chris is the " QVC " of statue collecting !😂😂❤😎

[@BatmanStatueCollector]

Thanks for watching anyway

[@PhilipGarcia-b4f]

Happy Holidays to you and your family and friends!❤😎 Philip G.

[@unknownavenger842]

Yet here you are watching 🤡

[@PhilipGarcia-b4f]

That's what " Rad Titans called Him, QVC" , I thought it was funny because I Know it's Not true! I have been watching Chris since 2014,; He's my favorite, next to Jesse Rebirth and Eric B.

[@MsBLACKSCREEN]

@@BatmanStatueCollector Hi Chris, just wanted to wish you a Happy Holidays to you and your family 👪 😊

[@tommygunzz7586]

I enjoy all customs (licensed, unlicensed, customized). I enjoy this channel for what it offers, and I enjoy others for what’s offered…

[@craighay9086]

But Chris....the Finch pieces on your wall are not officially licenced by DC either...what's the difference? Your talking about respecting licenced companies and not showing custom statues, and at the same time you adorn your walls with unlicensed pieces. Your logic makes no sense dude. Art is art.

[@michaelcastillo8884]

Oh man, another one who gets it. I'm an artist myself, and I understand his logic. Art is art; just one form helps the channel's income, and I wish he was clearer about it.

[@craighay9086]

​@@michaelcastillo8884Got to keep the partners happy and that income coming in. The Tweeterhead debacle is a perfect example.

[@unknownavenger842]

You have no idea what you're talking about, Finch is a DC artist, even if he wasn't if you're drawing or painting the characters yourself and not printing a licensed artists work and selling prints of it, it's protected under fair use laws, you are talking completely out of your ass.

[@spinnerrackstudios]

@@craighay9086 -- See my separate comment on this. There is a big difference between doing sketches here and there and hiring a sculptor, engaging an overseas factory, etc., and manufacturing for sale a bunch of statues based on copyrighted works.

[@craighay9086]

​@@spinnerrackstudiosArtists are artists. Digital sculpting is art, and drawing is art. Selling them both unlicensed IS the same thing.

[@WitchKing73]

My 2 cents for what it's worth: While I understand the reasons both professional & personal behind the policy, and do share a lot of the sentiments behind it, I also believe the whole "zero tolerance" approach on customs in the BSC & Secret Sanctuary FB Groups comes off as a little TOO strict & maybe even more than a little hypocritical. Heck, these days we all see Delaney videoing every Rogues Gallery show with a custom right behind him. If you were to post a screen capture of that image in either one of your groups, by the letter of your law it'd get deleted. Anybody see a problem with this? I believe practical minds can come to an agreement that there's a marked difference between being able to share/show a display of statues in a group picture or video of one's own personal collection in a room tour, (without highlighting certain pieces or ever mentioning the origins of them), as opposed to singularly focusing on or highlighting the custom pieces seen within. I'm of the opinion that a softening of this hardline stance would be beneficial, and should be permitted at moderator's discretion, of course. Additionally if a post is deleted, then the remover should demonstrate some common courtesy by contacting the poster via PM and explaining WHY the picture was taken down. 'Cause as the rules stand now, some of us will never be able to share with our fellow friends & collectors in these groups the fullness of our personal collections we've spent decades curating in this hobby. And that's a shame...

[@samuelharris1006]

Totally get your reasons and the nature of your channel and the broader business. I accidentally posted a repaint in the group and got a warning. Totally appreciate that the rules are there, I just joined a long time ago. I think an unfortunate by product of not allowing people to share their home made customs on the group is it kind of creates a two tier group. Those who can afford and those who can’t.

[@BatmanStatueCollector]

I understand where you're coming from! It can be tough when the rules seem to create divisions. The intention is to maintain a focused community, but I appreciate your perspective on inclusivity.

[@michaelcastillo8884]

I dont agree with it as the art in peoples walls isnt licensed either but we still show it off and sell it. I see no different in the art displayed in 3D form. That just me and its not my channel.

[@BatmanStatueCollector]

I appreciate your perspective! It’s definitely an interesting debate on the distinctions between different forms of art and promotion.

[@manof2moro]

That could make for an interesting follow up video to this one

[@StanleyJjo]

Don't be a goody two-shoe, just talk about them!!!!!

[@BatmanStatueCollector]

Being professional is important to me.

[@81demons29]

I love that a channel dedicated to the Hobby can get 400 plus views in 4 hours

[@BatmanStatueCollector]

We have an amazing community

[@spinnerrackstudios]

I believe custom statues are technical violations of copyright laws. So, what about the art that Finch does for BSC or other collectors who commission these things. Well, they are likely also copyright violations. But as I understand it, publishers tend to overlook the sale of sketches and commissions featuring their characters. It's so-called fan art and I believe the industry views it as accepted practice. I think publishers view it as extending the popularity of the brand and character. The publishers also tend to have or might have in the future relationships with these artists, and perhaps given them outright authorization to do private commissions. Of course, outside of the private commission being paid, the art cannot be published for a profit and should only be for personal enjoyment of the buyer. However, I think it is completely different for somebody to hire a sculptor and engage a factory to design and manufacture so-called custom statues, even when done in quantities of under 100. That goes beyond the fan art concept.

[@spinnerrackstudios]

@@stationarywanderer7910 I never said that companies approve of it, I said they overlook it. There is a difference. But I do agree with you that there is an element of practicality involved in that it is impossible to chase down every person doing a sketch. And as I said, there is an element of fan art promoting the character and brand. But the primary point to my post is there is a big difference between Finch (an artist who works for DC and perhaps even has express authorization from DC to do commissions) versus Joe Blow who has never had any relationship with DC and decides he is going to hire a sculptor to render a DC character, 3D print it, send it off to a third-party factory in China to produce many copies, ship it back to the U.S. and other parts of the world and then distribute it to collectors, all for a pretty penny.

[@RX-79Ez-8]

Is your 4K set to 50hz?

[@BatmanStatueCollector]

Not sure

[@MrMagneticvirus]

Puppet

[@BatmanStatueCollector]

Appreciate the kind words

[@EL-FIERRY]

Well Chris... we are together on the new harley custom statue I've seen you in the group What will you do when you get her? Will you show it on the channel?

[@BatmanStatueCollector]

No she will be seen in the background with the others but out of respect i will not be reviewing her.

[@Warrior_1313]

Because you do not get the same sponsorship support that you receive from licensed companies from what I have observed on your channel.

[@thelobs]

Does the same licensing rules apply to artwork? I assume yes, an artist has license to draw Batman, or riddler etc.

[@michaelcastillo8884]

This was my point. This logic doesn't make sense. Its just statue companies help the channels income. Im not hating at all and hes allowed to do whatever he wants with his channel. Lets just be a bit more honest here.

[@unknownavenger842]

@@michaelcastillo8884 Wrong, you have no idea what you are talking about, all his art he buys is from licensed DC artists that work for DC, so wrong there. Also art is protected under fair use laws if the artist is drawing or painting the image themselves. No clue what you're talking about.

[@moneywastedcollecting]

The custom world is also a much larger gamble than licensed pieces so it's not a great thing to promote to people in general, just my opinion as someone with customs. And a lot of custom companies or commissioners don't want you speaking about them anyways or publicizing it.

[@BatmanStatueCollector]

I understand where you're coming from!

[@KashDaGemini]

For me there has been some amazing customs and I only have 1 currently. However my preference will always be license the buying experience from, customer service, price, shipping, id probably say most factors are just smoother. Most customs you are going to wait 3 years. S/O to the artist

[@BatmanStatueCollector]

Thanks Kash for weighing in

[@JorgeTrujillo-hj8kd]

😊

[@BatmanStatueCollector]

Thanks as always

[@paulawanter505]

No worries! Your channel your rules ! Plenty of licensed people to look at

[@xaviermalandain3917]

100% agree with you

[@BatmanStatueCollector]

Thank you!

[@DRAGO_BAKA]

I have 2 customs that I absolutely love. I think a great point here is that custom statues used to be risky for collectors, as far as losing money…now we have licensed company(s) that are a huge concern…because it’s not just one statue order it is a lot of statue orders 50+

[@Mr49r1681]

Thanks for sharing this Q&A video BSC. Glad you still support licensed art and artists on your channel. I’ve seen some really good and poorly made custom statues. This person either subs or bunny hops from Mr. X’s Xtreme channel to others’.

[@哥坤-s7o]

During the early years of statue collecting at its infancy around after year 2000, there have been custom statues produced by unlicensed small companies around the world. And some did receive the cease and desist notice on certain pieces they produced from DC and Marvel. With the advancement of 3D and art technology, nowadays anyone with the calibre can produce a statue on their own and even sell it. Who knows their custom statues could have come from the same factory as those licensed products sold by licensed companies. As consumers, they have a choice of owning one or not. But it is another thing to promote or publicize unlicensed products openly even in channels. You do not want to popularize it before appropriate action is taken by the license holder.

[@TheXtremeChannelMrX]

I would never buy a custom or as I call them.. an abomination

[@BatmanStatueCollector]

#truth 🤣

[@Yeg-citycollectibles]

I fully agree with your stance. There’s enough places to discuss customs. I compare this to fitness influencers not admitting to steroid use. They definitely aren’t all taking juice, but for those who are, admitting to it on KZbin would be admitting to a crime essentially. How illegal are customs? Are they illegal to make & sell.. illegal even to own? Very curious where the line is if you know.

[@BatmanStatueCollector]

It's a tricky situation, I'm glad we are all on the same page!

[@Thestatueconnect]

Don’t let this distract you from the fact that Hector is going to be running three Honda civics with spoon engines, and on top of that, he just went into Harry’s and bought three t66 turbos with nos, and a motec exhaust system.

[@michaelcastillo8884]

Ill make sure i can counter that set up at Race Wars. Why? because family.

[@God-Knight1]

I definitely noticed that a while ago just trying to get basic info about the subject and was just like “ignored” for a lack of better words. Lol. No biggy, I prefer licensed products over anything else anyway but even bringing up my curiosity got me nowhere 😂

[@BatmanStatueCollector]

Sorry we just dont talk about it out of respect as mentioned in the video. We don't want to ignore anyone, but we just don't talk about it in the group at this time.

[@God-Knight1]

@ I totally understand and respect the reasons why you don’t. And I love your channel either way brother! Been a subscriber for about 7 years (even from different KZbin accounts throughout. Lol)

[@Supermanfan99]

Unfortunately customs are the only way I can get the Superman characters I want.

[@BatmanStatueCollector]

I understand your frustrations completely.

[@MattMatt77]

The things I don't like about them is: If you get them broken you get told Oh well 🤷‍♂️ They are hard to find do to REASONS... 🙄 Lastly from a friend that fixes statues. The engineering on some are 💩 and you need to fix it sooner or later.

[@BatmanStatueCollector]

It's always a risk thats for sure

[@NicolasPhilpot]

I greeted you what you say customs.

[@BatmanStatueCollector]

I really appreciate your engagement! It means a lot to me that you're interested in my content.

[@bullseye8841]

Honestly, I get where you're coming from, but I just don't care. I'm going where the product is. Look how long it took to get a Riddler, for goodness sake. How many Joker's/Harley/Ivy's have we had within that time? Plus, customs can't be that bad, since Sideshow was happy to lift their upcoming Man-Bat's design straight from an upcoming fan-piece piece lol

[@nutkrack]

@bullseye8841 100%. Was so stunned when they copied the exact custom design. Which is perfectly fine, but after you copy the concept, then don't hang the custom business you got the idea from.

[@BatmanStatueCollector]

It is definitely frustrating when it takes so long for certain characters to get licensed statues, but we just have to be patient or like you said be willing to risk going elsewhere

[@Jaugron2]

Oh wait.... I thought from that thumbnail expression this was video of Chris reacting to Andy Reid was going to Carsen Wentz the rest of year over Patrick Mahones since Reid believe Wentz gave the Chiefs the best chance to win. :P

[@BatmanStatueCollector]

Ha, I wish Patrick would sit out a week to heal, but that's just not his style.

[@secretmulletman7984]

i think there are some cool customs but i stay away.

[@BatmanStatueCollector]

It can be risky to buy as well at times, as people have been screwed over. I've had luck with the 3 pieces that I own.

[@purpleronnie10]

Thanks for the explanation Chris. Very clear! I am a buyer from Europe so I didn't know much about these Custom Statues (as a matter of fact I first thought this video was about Custom fees on which I know everything as an overseas buyer 😂🤭) so thanks for clarifying this 🙏

[@BatmanStatueCollector]

Glad to offer some insight

[@PredaconKing-cn2xx]

*"Why I don't discuss or promote custom fan art/statues on my channel." Well wadr here's the problem C...The premise is flawed, not to mention hypocritical. For ex: The very wall behind you is full of just that...custom artwork. Neither you or David Finch own those characters (Warner Bros/DC does), but yet you commission him to create/draw...* *original pieces of any given one just for you, which you then in-turn brag about and show off on, you guessed it.....YOUR channel.* *Private commission or otherwise....The reality is all of those pieces of art are UNLICENSED custom pieces to which neither DC or Warner Bros authorized you to buy/order, or Mr. Finch to create/sell.* *As a fellow collector/fan myself I love your passion, and your channel, but this is severely counterintuitive, not to mention hypocritical af!*