What GM Doesn’t Want You to Know About EVs | Ft. John Russell

[@lohphat]

When a company calls you "family" -- RUN AWAY. "Family" don't throw members away when it's financially convenient.

[@abdulkhan-iq1if]

Well said ✊

[@eringo-bragh4243]

IDK, I've always looked for the family vibe wherever I've worked and have usually not been disappointed until later when the CEO makes some bonehead decisions or I get a supervisor that doesn't look out for me.

[@jess_o]

Yup. Hairs on my neck stood up as soon as I heard that

[@campbellpaul]

The best you can do is bring the care that you wish to be expressed to you to your career with you.

[@keanuxu5435]

Psychopaths and Sociopaths do

[@IcyMidnight]

This isn't a problem with electric cars. This is a problem with corporate America, union dodging, and federal funding not coming with enough requirements. If the government is going to spend money on creating jobs, that money should 90% go to the benefit of workers, not employers.

[@lot2196]

Yes and no. This is democrat green movement garbage. They are forcing this stuff and not backing it up like you pointed out. Thus, climate change is a scam to push leftist policies.

[@Tehnameless1]

But why not both

[@mind_of_a_darkhorse]

@@Tehnameless1 What benefits the workers, by extension benefits the Companies!

[@sprockkets]

Why not? You think Tesla treats any of their employees well? FFS they wouldn't even allow OSHA to inspect their Nevada factory.

[@Guimhj]

Yeah, electric cars are still bad though.

[@michaelhathorus4859]

Seems less that the promise of electric cars failed, so much so that the promise of "good paying, union, Middle Class jobs. Jobs with dignity." It seems like the typical Union-busting tactics that GM (and other enormous companies) that are a REAL reason that Union membership is rising and why strikes are happening across so many industries.

[@BakuganBrawler211]

Exactly this. When you’re cared for by your union the employees are more productive and able to live without struggling.

[@Dumbledore6969x]

Wrong, electric cars are selling more than ever.

[@BakuganBrawler211]

@@Dumbledore6969x Did you miss the first part of their comment? The ev didn’t fail executives failed their employees.

[@Dumbledore6969x]

@@BakuganBrawler211 no

[@dennisyoung4631]

*!STRIKE!*

[@YourCapyFrenBigly_3DPipes1999]

Asking big companies to promise to be good boys is ridiculous. We need hard-and-fast iron fist style laws on these bastards. Believe me nothing else will control them. All they care about is greed they will always find a way to to weasel out of every promise or weak regulation. But real laws with zero loopholes and serious penalties including jail time for violations will work. Just elect me I know what tf to do

[@judylandry302]

These Corporations have the lobbyists/ lawyers that are the actual ones who write 99% of Legislation. These are the same Corporations who provide Tax Exempt contributions to Super Pacs and election funding for politicians. This is what happens when there are only two highly funded viable political parties. Neither party nor politician has the interests of the masses on their agenda. Democracy, like Christianity is a Greek Myth.

[@JohnnyPence5]

Need Gm Lordstown UAW 1112 shop chairman Al Alli re elected 70's-90's

[@JeremySpidle]

Corporations only do the right thing at the point of a gun.

[@thoughtlesskills]

Hard paraphrase of idk who: Capitalism is ok when you tie it down so hard only its little pinky toe can wiggle. Regulations are the enemy of corporations but a most important ally of labor.

[@YourCapyFrenBigly_3DPipes1999]

@@thoughtlesskills agreed. Look I'm not against businesses existing, some Leftists are and well you know maybe in the future but we can have that but now obviously that's not going to be possible, so I don't have any problem with businesses up to certain size existing and operating however I just want to put a set of hard-and-fast ground rules in place. This shouldn't be so hard I know my ethics and morals are not askew so there must be a problem with the shit that's going on and those who are currently making policy. Fukn crooks Hard labor protections Hard environmental protections Real oversight Maximum size limit (10,000 persons maybe) And that's it Everyone can go out and do as much business as they want provided these four requirements are in place

[@morganfreeman4726]

It'd be worthwhile to investigate home depot. They fired my coworker so they wouldn't have to pay for his chemotherpy. I've worked in four stores and every single one is operated to suppress worker morale. They'll hire anyone too. Within a year of hiring a fired cop he was promoted to management

[@ciello___8307]

Home depots owner is known to be anti union. He gives money to coservatice PACs

[@YourCapyFrenBigly_3DPipes1999]

God damn that's so gross

[@YourCapyFrenBigly_3DPipes1999]

Way to go lot of ethics at Home Depot I can see. Hiring a cop fired for some kind of violence or criminality. Lot of standards they have.

[@YourCapyFrenBigly_3DPipes1999]

Billion dollar company firing a single co-worker for not wanting to supply his promised healthcare. That's absolutely disgraceful. He should have tried to sue for wrongful termination.

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

Rich gotta rich. Poor gotta serve (and suffer). It is what it is. Stay in your lane. Social and financial classes are non-negotiable. 💪😎✌️

[@HikaruKatayamma]

Ultium IS dedicated to the process. They’re just not dedicated to completing the process. That’s why the employees need to strike.

[@ogawasanjuro]

Excellent observation!

[@tannermcnabb4836]

With respect for what you're doing A More Perfect Union, this isn't a failure of electric cars, but another example of corporate BS "profit above people" mentality.

[@jeffreylee5770]

Please look at Temple University in Philadelphia, PA. They tried to defeat a grad student union strike with many ruthless tactics. They tried to break the union and failed.

[@ciello___8307]

The fact that gm can make such relatively cost effective EVs made me curious. The new ultium blazer ev starts like around $30k. For a nice car too. The only way to get that kind of pricing is with cost cutting, whether its in materials or wages

[@seanhartnett79]

In my state they send students a letter saying we demand you repay your tuition because you unionized.

[@MMuraseofSandvich]

Remember, businesses only understand one virtue: _wealth._ Do not expect them to treat you well out of the goodness of their hearts, because that has been trained out of them by capitalism. "It's nothing personal, it's just business." If they treat you well, it's because (a) the government is actively holding businesses accountable, and (b) workers who are treated well have the highest productivity. The largest form of theft in this country is _wage theft,_ whether it's restaurant owners stealing tips, or factories clocking you out then forcing you to work for free.

[@daltonzoletta]

You forgot offices saying they are contributing to your 401k, but all of their AND your contributions go into their own investment account and only get transferred into your account when you quit, usually far less than you were supposed to get to begin with, PLUS no interest for you! If you have a 401k and you have never looked at it, look at it sometime...

[@ghost307]

Also remember, governments only understand one virtue: power.

[@slowanddeliberate6893]

Capitalism can be brutal. Everything has pros and cons.

[@jesseedkins7447]

​@slowanddeliberate6893 the curse of capitalism

[@Shomo-lk8zh]

CAPITILISM IS NOT THE PROBLEM!!! Sorry for the caps :) The problem is shareholder/owner capitalism. The idea that a businesses sole reason for existence is to make ownership money. The solution is stakeholder capitalism where the existence of the business is to make life better for the owner/customer/employee/neighbors/city/nation/environment. It was corporate raiders (today's hedge funds) that changed the way business was done in the 1980's. Since Stakeholder Capitalism at the time was a gentlemen's agreement and not law and corporate raiders were definitely not gentleman then it was easy for them to take over businesses using shareholder capitalism. Those practices were frowned upon but never illegal. Now you hear so many people say the reason a business exists is to make money. But how much money and at what expense to others? If the answer is as much as possible. What is "possible" What can I do to make it possible? Can I lie? Can I kill? Can I poison? Can I bribe? Can I change the rules? The market is a set of rules that people will except in business/capitalism whether they are written or not. Our laws are the written rules so they need to be updated to match the unwritten rules that the corporate raiders ignored.

[@jakthebomb]

This has nothing to do with EVs, this has everything to do with crappy companies being crappy to employees.

[@johnnynephrite6147]

yep! one need only look at companies like Amazon or Tyson or any other company that has essentially a monopoly on not just the market for their products but also a monopoly on jobs in their area. This country has been on a race to the wage bottom since the 1980s.

[@thisbymaster]

Taxpayer money should never go to for profit businesses. It should only go to the people.

[@Lobos222]

No, there are situations were getting something started in a field with allot of players already is such a high investment cost that government should be part of the investment process if needed. HOWEVER, with that the deal should be such so NATIONAL interests are upheld. Building and retaining a middle class is of national interest to retain good domestic demand for future goods and services. So it would be easy for the gov to add stuff that would enable a living wage or better and that Union deal was respect. If the company in question did not like that. Okay, lets talk to some Japanese companies then. They also make cars. Point is, as long as something makes a profit. There is always people interested.

[@TechBearSeattle]

I have no problem with taxpayer money being used to help small entrepreneurs. It should NOT be going to vast corporations that pay little to no taxes, however. Vast corporations like GM and LG.

[@Lobos222]

@@coderamen666 That has nothing to do with the subject. Stop introducing your Communist ideas as if they were functional. You go and do nothing, if you want. I rather see a well regulated and functional economy that provides goods and services that people want, rather than a total command economy that decides what kind of plastic toy or car people "want". While having shops more worried about selling their really wanted wares on the black market for higher profits than the government dictate the "price" is. Middle class is not a "middle of something" or "average something". Middle class MEANS you have enough buying power for the basics AND a given amount more, in context of consumer price index, to use on "insert entrainment" or other "none essentials". However, just like my SURPLUS NATIONAL BUDGET nation has found out. You need work to drive the economy and unfortunately it is NOT feasible to have none working people (outside of children and to some degree pensioners) be middle class. It isnt just about "affording it", but the aspect of working people making more regardless of what they none working get and if the sums are too close. Few would want to work and that in turn would mean there wouldnt be enough economic activity (yes, its not a fiat currency thing) to retain a liquid economy as long as labor is really needed, which it is because Ai or robots will not do that work any time soon. Ca best one can do for unemployed is 60% of their working income and none job seekers must expect to live on less than that. When humanity gets to space, ai and robots do all the work and resources are in practicality, when government space transport handle the cost of mining and transport raw material (cost will be astronomical for any company, I think, but not for nations). Then we can talk about making middle class the actual "none working class" and the minority that have jobs the upper middle or "company runner" as a tier above that to ensure people wanting to be efficient with the resources provided, but until then. The middle class will be a working class.

[@YourCapyFrenBigly_3DPipes1999]

@@TechBearSeattle that's right.

[@YourCapyFrenBigly_3DPipes1999]

@@coderamen666 yes. Gross isn't it

[@kalebdaark100]

This isn't a "Failed Promise of Electric Cars" story. It's a Failed Promise of Corperate America story.

[@BakuganBrawler211]

If they are punishing you for speaking up document it and start talking behind the scenes to build up a case. It’s illegal to retaliate against a whistleblower.

[@larkohiya]

Yeah it is, but they want to act like the USA government when someone whistleblows them. They want to punish and secure their own future profits. We need to change the incentive structure so they don't want to do that.

[@daltonzoletta]

I was fired for reporting my employer not following covid mandates. Office job, no windows, no masks, people coughing all over each other. I had an entire email thread with state lawyers looking into my employer. Nothing ever happened. Illegality doesn't matter when employers aren't ever held accountable anyways.

[@andrewrockwell1282]

Tax payer funds going to industry I can support, but it shouldn't be given to corporations, it should be used by the government to employee workers directly.

[@SkySpiral8]

Government admin aren’t trained to create efficient manufacturing processes, so a lot of money would go to waste (on committees and pencil pushers) and not to operators. How do I know? I was a public school teacher. I think it should be given to manufacturing companies but with regulations on worker pay and benefits

[@TheModdedwarfare3]

​@@SkySpiral8lol. "The efficiency of the free market" is a bold faced lie used to sell us the idea that corporations and CEOs deserve all of the money and tax cuts they get.

[@seanhartnett79]

@@SkySpiral8they should be the incentives but they have required labor rights and high wages

[@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan]

A company calling itself a family is major red flag

[@KoRntech]

I had a feeling things were not great there, between some local comments, seeing postings on LinkedIn, and Scotty Kilmer constantly saying GM is wishy-washy on EVs the last 6 months.

[@benjamincolumbus]

Scotty Kilmer is a hack

[@ElderStatesman]

Trouble is, his "critiques" against EVs have been nothing but nectar to the NIMBY bees. And MPU should know better than to have a tagline that will give those opposed to electrification more fuel. Why can't MPU just point to how these car manufacturers are repackaging old business tactics? Leave the EVs out of the picture.

[@jeffreycheng5984]

​@@ElderStatesman Blood Batteries. The Dark Side Of Electric Cars. WION report. m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/iHerp6RjbdOjZ9E So if they get bumped they burst into torrential flames so fast the passengers usually can’t get out live the 2 ill-fated late car reviewers from a auto magazine, they burst into flames just sitting & will also burst into flames if they get water logged…but it’s not about the environment or air pollution or anything else it’s about removing your ability to escape from the smart city the UN agenda claims all people must live in under their 2030 agenda. California is modeling what will be done to everyone else with the “must buy a EV, now not allowed to charge EV. ” It’s about removing the freedom to leave a bad situation & remain trapped in their mega city. I’m reminded of Judge Dredd & Escape from New York.

[@KoRntech]

@@ElderStatesman Ya it bugged the hell out of me seeing electrocution in the title. Ya Scotty is old and a Libertarian. Now not the Musk and Tesla don't deserve a lot of criticism as Common Sense Skeptic and Thunderf00t have shown the insanity of perception of a product that is poorly made.

[@sjsomething4936]

@@ElderStatesmanprecisely, this is standard corporate practice to union-bust, not provide proper training and safety measures in their production processes, and intimidating / strong-arming employees into silence that are trying to improve conditions. At the end of the day it has very little to do with EVs, it’s simply the new industry that is behaving exactly as old industries have with regard to employee rights, safety and compensation.

[@judylandry302]

Ultium Cells is owned by GM and LG Energy who is owned by South Korea. Because GM sold out. South Korea was able to cheaply "buy" U S Goverment subsidized Labor and deunionize it. The US Government's Energy Department gave Ultium a $2.5 Billion Dollar "loan". With another $2.8 Billion Dollar " Loan" to yet another Chinese owned company, CATL, on US soil. Michigan gave China EV 175 million. American workers are making the World richest people even richer, through their Labor and tax dollars. No wonder the roads are so bad.....along with all US infrastructure.

[@lavellelee5734]

When did this happen?

[@ball2000]

I hate the title “The Failed Promise Of Electric Cars” but if you want to attract all the EV haters well done

[@barryrobbins7694]

We need fewer cars (even electric cars) and more metro systems and high speed rail. They can create good jobs too. Car infrastructure is a big economic drain. Many roads are in disrepair because of the enormous costs. The Katy Freeway in Texas is 26-lanes wide and still transports dramatically less people than a typical 2-track metro system. Texas is planning a high speed rail line between Dallas and Texas. The U.S. was literally developed due to train networks.

[@dmike3507]

@@barryrobbins7694 Amen to that! The US had streetcar systems in many cities 100 years ago, back when they were small towns compared to the giant metropolises they are now. The auto industry created shell companies, bought out the streetcars, and dismantled them. Despite being convicted of criminal conspiracy they received nothing but a mere fine. Decades upon decades of lobbying congress to create a national highway system and here we are in this mess today. Roads are going to make this country bankrupt if we don't switch to alternative forms of transportation.

[@barryrobbins7694]

@@dmike3507 Yes, car-centric Los Angeles once had the most extensive streetcar network in the world.

[@gregorymalchuk272]

​@@barryrobbins7694Thank you for admitting that your centrally planned future includes a lower standard of living with decreased personal freedom of movement.

[@EbonySaints]

​@@gregorymalchuk272How does having a train actually impact you having a car? You act like the train is going to burst right through your house playing "La Internationale" to round you up to take you to the commie factory and not make a stop by the bourgeoisie Starbucks.

[@unconventionalideas5683]

I don't think they partnered with LG purely to avoid the UAW contract; rather, LG knows how to make batteries, and GM has limited experience. However, it sounds as if LG brought its entitled Corporate Korea Chaebol attitude to the US, which will not work. Hyundai and Kia have had numerous scandals recently over that, and the reality is that as problematic as Corporate America can be, the Chaebol are known to be equally problematic or even worse. Thank you for spreading the word; that way, we can try to fix this.

[@seanhartnett79]

Yes. Child labor in Kia

[@johnsteiner3417]

I once had heard a rumor that at Salt Lake Community College there were adjunct teachers planning on forming a union, but never heard more. If something like that took off there is hope that a union for college employed tutors might have a shot.

[@YourCapyFrenBigly_3DPipes1999]

I hope they stayed with it.

[@seanhartnett79]

Recently; in my state a lot of TAs unionized

[@phxsisko]

It's cute when people think the President walking around their plant will actually mean a fucking thing to them. These people don't care about workers, just the owners and their concerns.

[@seanhartnett79]

True. Sometimes

[@emmanuelalvarez2512]

True always

[@nasis18]

As a safety manager in a manufacturing plant, I'm at a loss for words.

[@octothorpian_nightmare]

Try "tools down!"

[@nasis18]

@@octothorpian_nightmare when he was explaining how bad the safety was. I was just like, wow.

[@newscoulomb3705]

This is why I'm concerned that we only have one person commenting, and some of what he's relaying is hearsay (e.g., Were the employees working in the cathode mixing department actually suspected of purposeful sabotage? It's possible, but not something that's shared from his perspective.). The thing to keep in mind is that this facility is just a scaled up version of an identical assembly plant that's been operating in South Korea for over two years now, so we have a direct point of comparison. To me, there are three separate issues here: unionizing, wages, and safety. The safety issues shouldn't be predicated on whether or not the plant is unionized. If these are actual safety issues, these problems would still be happening even if the workers were UAW making $60/hr, so if the assertion of this video is that higher wages would magically make these safety issues go away, I have to question whether there are ulterior motives. So yes, I agree. Address the safety issues. Also, yes, pay a decent wage and allow the employees to join the UAW. However, if it turns out that any of these safety issues were the result of intentional acts of disruption, terminate those employees who were responsible for cause.

[@alyssafitzgerald83]

Investigating HEB would be good. It’s the biggest Texas only grocery store and has a whole host of issues like mandating that step stools be kept on the risers, mandating people work close/open hours once they get promotions and that doesn’t even begin to touch on warehouse workers.

[@EbonySaints]

I'd be interested in hearing more about them. As a Texan, HEB tends to be something of a positive role model for the state, so hearing about their bad side would be nice once in a while.

[@RamenNoodle1985]

Never work for a company that bases itself on being family. Cause they always end up being dysfunctional af

[@mhkpt]

There are a couple of excellent interviews with Thea Riofrancos where she breaks down just how much more mining we'll need to replace the existing fossil-fuel fleet with EVs. One of them is with Upstream, the other I can't remember. Really worth checking out.

[@darcymunro8930]

Stay Strong Everyone with the Unions,It’s not a cost it is an investment in the future for us and our children’s futures Health,Wealth,Education and Safety.

[@appleimacdude]

The unions often don't do their job! When I have been a union employee in the past, they did nothing for us, while driving around in really expensive cars! When a former manager was talking about working in the grocery industry, he mentioned while he and his wife, working in the same industry, went on strike - the funds ran out - they were losing their home - and the union rep just bought a brand new expensive car! Often, there is no incentive for the union to really care about the workers -

[@differencemaker242]

Yeah, a temporary future. Unions suck businesses dry and then when they are bone dry the business dies. That just happened to Yellow Transportation. It happened to the entire auto industry, which is why so many went offshore or down to Mexico. It's why manufacturing died in America. Unions ate a cost that nobody in a global economy can afford anymore. How American manufacturing keep up with Chinese manufacturing when they don't have Unions? And they pay workers less, and they don't have all the regulations that we do? Answer: It can't. Unions are relics of the past. They should've died long ago. Everything they fought for has been put into law. The only purpose they serve now is to soak the employer. If YOU don't like the company that you work for voluntarily then leave voluntarily. No need for a strike, just find another job.

[@luqmangabarti]

Electric cars won't solve the climate crisis, the biggest source of GHG emissions comes from production of the cars and their batteries and Particulate Matter from tires as the car is being driven. Tailpipe GHG emissions in gasoline cars only make up a small share of total GHG emissions produced. Beyond that electric cars distract from public transit, which is actually the best solution to meet transportation needs and help end the climate crisis.

[@dmike3507]

Pretty sure tailpipe emissions are by far the biggest contributor... but at least you're right about the solution.

[@leoperez2566]

This is all bunk

[@gregorymalchuk272]

​@@dmike3507Not since the catalytic converter.

[@Trace-l7k]

@@gregorymalchuk272they still pollute, don’t get it wrong.

[@pmscalisi]

@@dmike3507 from what I’ve read it’s about 12-15% now. Considering everyone has an agenda, who do you believe?

[@Romogi]

I wonder why people are not having children.

[@pmscalisi]

As long as it’s progressives I don’t mind

[@tmapache]

This is all about Ultium/GM, but the title suggests *all* electric vehicles. Very misleading.

[@AlexB-up6fd]

Clickbait 101

[@davitdavid7165]

If you give progress a cost this large, can it even be called progress?

[@marieazrak1951]

This is my biggest question why is the government investigating people who work?

[@williamyoung9401]

Is everyone paying attention? $60 dollars per HOUR (not per day) in wages and benefits is LIVABLE wage in this country now. Wake up. (5:00)

[@saml302]

trickle down economics strikes again

[@pmscalisi]

Or NAFTA residuals

[@TheBrainSquared]

i have built solar batteries as a hobby and I can tell you unequivocally that it is extremely dangerous working with not only the harsh chemicals, but having a battery explode in your face if 2 leads happen to arc.

[@jaioxung]

If you can't make a profit without exploiting someone you don't have a viable business.

[@barryrobbins7694]

I am all for good paying jobs with good benefits and good working conditions. When it comes to government investment in transportation, there are better places to spend that money while still providing good jobs. There is a need for transportation options, that are less expensive and more efficient than cars. The U.S. consumes enormous amounts of money, energy, and natural resources on car related infrastructure, building and widening roads, and building parking lots. Even though electric cars are better than gas cars, they still require the same infrastructure and don’t remove the number of cars on the road at any given time. The U.S. was literally developed due to train networks. Longterm investments in metro area transit systems and high speed trains between major metropolitan areas less than 600 miles apart are economically more efficient than expanding road networks. The 26-lane Katy Freeway in Texas has less passenger capacity than a typical 2-track metro rail system. Texas is planning a high speed train between Dallas and Houston. With federal funding many other areas can do the same. The money saved can also create jobs maintaining the roads we already have. This is good even for car drivers. Learn more about the subject.

[@YourCapyFrenBigly_3DPipes1999]

Yep. Trains now please.

[@Flamebard]

Sadly, the HSR from Houston to Dallas has been mired in bureaucracy for years. And from what I can tell, the company has gone silent. There was a single statement made in July 2022, and that was after two years of nothing. By all appearances, the project is dead. I was so looking forward to it, but car industry wins again.

[@barryrobbins7694]

@@Flamebard Implementation of high speed rail and better public transit is going to take a lot of persistent advocacy and government involvement. The biggest obstacles are the attitude that government is always bad and that car travel equals freedom. Where is the uproar over bloated military spending (National Priorities Project)? How is car travel freedom when a large percentage of a person’s income is devoted to a depreciating asset that just sits most of the time? Less expensive travel options can be made available, but it has to be done wisely. Public transit needs to be affordable, clean, safe, frequent, available at all times, and have appropriate travel routes. Transit systems also need to be separated from car traffic to prevent delays. The federal government developed the national highway system and no one asks if it is profitable. People can still own a cars, or rent one when a true need arises. Fewer people will drive, not because they are forced away from cars, but because it will be a better option for many.

[@Flamebard]

@@barryrobbins7694 Oh you won't have any argument from me on this. I am 100% with you. The evidence is pretty clear that a well-functioning public transit system made up of trains, trams, separated bus lines, and decent bike paths is by and large worth it to basically everyone. I genuinely wanted the HSR in Texas. I was hoping that a privately funded HSR would show the public that we can have nice things and would kickstart a new era for transit. Alas, profits had to be X, public perception was poor, etc etc etc and now we lose another one.

[@pmscalisi]

@@barryrobbins7694 sadly public transport is far from affordable for 80% of the country.

[@iamsam4260]

Proud union. Kid spoke nothing but truth.

[@R1CK_54NCH3Z]

The main thing in an EV that requires stringent safety processes in all aspects of handling and assembly and their paying peanuts and giving minimal instruction. With the accidents described, the safety concerns, the lack of confidence with the training, the batteries already assembled that could be sub-standard due to these conditions could have far reaching consequences down the road. If the is any sort of governing body that looks after electrical safety they have to step in fast, threatening recalls if they find these issues ongoing

[@ronunderwood5771]

I knew 3 guys who “worked” at Lordstown in the 70’s. Sweet deal. Just one of them would go in each day. He would clock the other two in. This went on for a couple years. When they got caught the UAW threatened a strike if they were fired. Greed comes from all sides.

[@drakewauters2109]

Googled car assembly wages recently. They look like the same pay from 45 years ago.

[@davek9378]

Don’t expect our corrupt government/politicians to help - they get nice campaign donations from the Unions. The Unions should withhold political donations until their Union members are taken care of...but we all know that will never happen.

[@paul5683]

Goober should have invested in his education to get off the line. Better working conditions and higher wages, it shouldn't have been that hard to see the writing on the wall. 😢

[@KoRntech]

Whats with the banjo? For crying out loud this is NE Ohio, not Southern Ohio or West Virginia.

[@toyotaprius79]

🪕👀

[@captainkirk3000]

I really DO NOT LIKE the Federal focus on this, focus on Ohio state, DESTROY ANTI LABOR POLITICIANS IN THAT STATE

[@knarf_on_a_bike]

SOLIDARITY with our sisters and brothers in Lordstown!✊️✊️✊️

[@Craxin01]

We used to have pride buying things made in the U.S. and by union labor. Decades of greed have destroyed the middle class and corrupted industry. Greed destroys everything.

[@bigdog44pc]

I hope that people today will regain the political strength to make change in this country.

[@TimmyTheTinman]

We’re about to see a Democratic landslide in 2024 so it’s happening

[@evelyndominguez4757]

I just retired from LG Energy Solutions. Vision, dental and health all paid for by the company. Entry rate 20 dollars. Very clean. Almost all lines are robotic.

[@elonmusksellssnakeoil1744]

This is a friendly reminder that EVs are here to save the auto industry, not the environment.

[@ILovePancakes24]

With EV prices being so high I think they are doomed for sure. This is just a hail Mary attempt.

[@seanhartnett79]

@gormenfreeman499true.

[@pmscalisi]

@gormenfreeman499 and money, which isn’t free.

[@voytekmiller4275]

Kinda Off topic but somewhat relevant: Most people are out for themselves anyway. For 25 years I have been a Steelworker Union member with 2 different aluminum factories. During contracts one particular group gets something good while no one else does. This is why in so many places there are tiered wages even though most jobs can be mastered in just a few weeks. Also human hypocrisy: I remember a retired foundry worker from New Castle PA who wrote a Vindicator article in the early 2000s. Anyway, he stated how he personally knew several married couples who worked at Lordstown and made phenomenal money. These couples would tout Unions all the time, however when they needed contractual work done in their homes such as a kitchen remodel etc.. they would go with NON UNION contractors to save money. So they were all Gung Ho for Unions on the Receiving end but not on the Giving end.

[@catmomjewett]

I can’t even conceive of $60 an hour. Good luck to y’all

[@TheModdedwarfare3]

And we have billionaires making like 60k an hour.

[@seanhartnett79]

It is still only like 80k a year

[@ILoveTinfoilHats]

​@@seanhartnett79$60 an hour is ~125k a year at 40 hours a week, I think your math is a little off

[@shaunhall960]

Seems we need to rethink how we as citizens do business because clearly the system we have isn't working. We need to get the money that influences our politicians out of politics and that can only happen if we pass laws that get rid of lobbyists.

[@BlahblahblahblahblahblahblahFU]

Working class!! ✊🏽unionize!

[@ChiefsFanInSC]

The problem is that most of these people will vote for Donald Trump in 2024 who will, in turn, destroy any prospect of good paying union jobs.

[@KoRntech]

Yes Biden should visit the area, he can swing past East Palestine and then up to Lordstown. It would make way more sense to do that route despite the travel path. Would be nice to see Biden within 5 miles of my home of Lake Milton.

[@stevechance150]

Ohio voted for Trump in 2016 and in 2020. What's the saying? "You can't fix stupid".

[@christiandauz3742]

Wish 2016 Ohio was sent back in time to 1743!!!

[@seanhartnett79]

He comes whenever a new factory opens. But you know what why not,

[@pmscalisi]

He would probably get lost.

[@KaritKtana]

Dear MPU: I'd like to know what's going on at OSHA. Aren't they supposed to inspect hazardous working conditions? There are so many HORRIFYING workplace injuries, maiming, and deaths occurring all over the country, where it's somehow more financially sound for companies to pay out comp than to actually fix their facilities and practices. We must DEMAND a change!

[@Necrapocalypse]

From the title I thought this was going to be about environmental impact and sustainability, but this is good to know too.

[@medman6649]

This is typical corporate greed, it's just another story in a collection of short stories. This happens again and again and again.

[@crasho80]

How is the condition compared to BYD EV factory in Lanchester that specifically excluded from US grant?

[@Puzekat2]

We have the standards in the construction industry I’ve seen them. We must have them in all industries. Rent control with the free money for the buildings. Wage control with the free money for the companies.

[@JLocke0113]

Great reporting

[@jonathanf.9395]

MISLEADING VIDEO TITLE

[@jayboegs6268]

Dream on. Companies own the Federal government.

[@YourCapyFrenBigly_3DPipes1999]

For now yes

[@SecondLifeDesigner]

Ultium batteries use nickel cobalt manganese aluminum (“NCMA”) chemistry. They need to switch to LFP battery chemistry which is lithium iron phosphate. Which is non toxic. I am not sure about the manufacturing process for LFP but I am willing to bet it involves way less dangerous chemicals than NCMA batteries. Plus LFP last 2 to 3 times longer. LFP batteries are increadibly difficult to catch on fire. When an LFP does catch on fire it doesn't produce its own oxygen so it doesn't burn as hot as NCMA batteries which do produce their own oxygen as they burn. LFP batteries can also be put out with regular water. Also the manufacturing process of LFP batteries produces way less CO2 than NCMA. Since they last 2 to 3 times longer than NCMA batteries that means you only need to manufacture half to 1/3 the number of batteries as you do NCMA batteries. This cuts the lifetime CO2 down to way less than 1/2 or even less than 1/3 the CO2 for LFP. LFP batteries are also way easier to recycle than NCMA. Until there is a huge breakthrough in energy storage like graphene batteries or super capacitors, LFP is the way to go.

[@thomasreese2816]

GM fails to meet all of their promises. That is not true of Electric Vehicles in general or their makers

[@souravjaiswal-jr4bj]

Unionize at that battery plant. That's the only way.

[@paulweakley3440]

I would love to see a story about the gutting of solar in red states by removing net metering (not fairly paying for solar electricity fed into to the grid ). Indiana has completed screwed solar in a way where it is only affordable for the rich or corporations.

[@pgbollwerk]

I own a Tesla, but I'm no fanboy of the company or Elon Musk. My perspective, for what it's worth - I love having an electric car, but I also absolutely support workers unionizing. The problems described in this video are not unique to electric vehicle manufacturing. This is a problem with ALL of corporate America. Republicans have systematically destroyed unions, and Democrats haven't done much to stop it.

[@pmscalisi]

Lol Democrats serve the same masters the Republicans do. Don’t kid yourself 😂

[@MadmaxMusic93]

Indeed I love my model 3, it's a great Daily driver

[@siddarath2001]

How the fuck is this directly attributed to electric cars as a medium

[@breearbor4275]

It’s just one of many examples that demonstrates that new technologies, despite how they’re marketed to us, won’t improve society so long as they’re privately owned and used for profit. (there are many other problems with electric cars, such as the heavy environmental cost of rare earth minerals, and the promotion of EVs in lieu of more efficient and sustainable alternatives like mass transit, but that’s a separate topic from what this video is covering)

[@ryanwaege7251]

Just the lazy "the elites are screwing you" clickbaity crap I've come to expect from this channel followed by no substance.

[@BleedForTheWorld]

@@breearbor4275 that's a very good and simple answer.

[@willardSpirit]

Public transit, walkable and bikeable neighborhoods is the future

[@davestagner]

The story is good. The title of the video (The Failed Promise of Electric Cars) is somewhere between clickbait and garbage. You should be ashamed of that.

[@NextNate03]

Regarding starting pay: That is around the starting pay to every GM plant. Same thing with Ford. To me, the starting pay is a slap in the face for a job that is supposed to be a great paying Unionized job.

[@stevemora7845]

Switching everyone to EVs will barely make a dent in climate change as most green house gasses come from industry and the military.

[@whattheflimflam]

I also don't think the power grid can handle everyone having an electric car.

[@rbj5767]

Also the Congelese children exploitation ‼️💔💔💔💔💢

[@dimimegesis]

THE US GOVERNMENT(S) MUST PAY INDIVIDUALS DIRECTLY. INVESTING IN INDUSTRY WITHOUT INVESTING IN THE CITIZENS WHICH ENABLE IT IS LUDICROUS.

[@Sludge73]

If all those folks didn't accept $16.50/hr then the Company would be forced to pay a higher wage for workers. Those folks are sell outs. They needed to stand together as a community before trying to unionize..

[@acolli777]

Having owned 2 LG products that decided to self terminate, I would never buy any LG product again. Shoddy build quality/poor product design

[@BleedForTheWorld]

Pretty unbelievable they still voted for Trump in 2020. I would be outraged.

[@julioblanco]

You get what you vote for!

[@CJThomas13]

this is GM problem/political and Ultium problem. not an EV problem. you are being deceptive

[@ThomasJeffersonWolfcall-kn3bx]

How long does it take to train a replacement for one these jobs? There you go.

[@feelinghealing3890]

Its wild that ANYONES permission is required to unionize.

[@JohnnyPence5]

Couldn't of been said any better. A true union brother speaking from the front lines.

[@JusticeAlways]

This is just typical capitalism in the US. It's not just this industry...it's pretty much all.

[@brendakrieger7000]

Awful💔😱

[@DCMarvelMultiverse]

How to nerf electric vehicles? Make parts manufacturing dangerous, overprice the cars, and limit charging infrastructure.

[@jmack619]

Up here in canada, trudeau is giving vw billions to manufacture batteries ! If its such a great idea, why are the billion dollar handouts necessary ?

[@pmscalisi]

Image. “Look at what we’re doing”! 🤣🤣🤣 While the company holds the country hostage with insane tax breaks. Everyone does it.

[@toyotaprius79]

Talk to Nikki Gordon Bloomfield of Transport Evolved

[@ninj4geek]

Yeah, that whole team is eyeballs deep in EV stuff.

[@IdentifiantE.S]

@@ninj4geekFr

[@ninj4geek]

Also Kyle from Out Of Spec

[@toyotaprius79]

​​@@ninj4geekThey were crucial to covering EVs since the 2000s. They're reputable and long standing independent journalists

[@ninj4geek]

@@toyotaprius79 Shame they have such a small subscriber base

[@Puzekat2]

The company should’ve been unionized from the moment it was incepted. $2.3 billion free money from our government and they didn’t insist for federal wages paid to the staff?

[@hwleitner2009]

I would assume 16.5 per hour is the minimum wage for unskilled workers. The individual volunteers to work there knowing the deal in advance.

[@DJ_Force]

So, they shut down the GM factory. Probably because it was too expensive. They then created a battery factory in the same town, and the workers are saying they want wages like they used to have. Wages so high they closed the previous factory? I don't see how this ends well.

[@seanhartnett79]

It wasn’t high wages it was greed the salary of at least 3 car plants is barely equal to what the CEO took home in 6 months.

[@DJ_Force]

@@seanhartnett79 Last year the GM CEO took home $29 million. At its closing, the Lordstown plant employeed around 4,500 people. $29 million would pay 4,500 people around $6,000 a year.

[@seanhartnett79]

@@DJ_Force did you count stock options or bonuses. Because most figures don’t count that, or stock buybacks.

[@seanhartnett79]

@@DJ_Force they bought back $3.5 billion of stock since September of last year. This is just some of the money that they wasted. They didn’t need to shut down the plant,

[@seanhartnett79]

@@DJ_Force and how about all the other executives. If the economy is hard or you screw up, management should take the pay cut or layoffs.

[@Puzekat2]

All that free capital for a company to start this business, and the dole out to the worker is minuscule.

[@ericcarabetta1161]

"We're like a family here." 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩

[@Deathwatch31]

I loved the Mississippi banjo guitar music, we're talking about NE Ohio not the bayou out by the creek in the deep south LOL

[@janeayre96]

Biden brought back the jobs. Unions and Osha need to get involved now.

[@anthonymartinez4307]

16.50 are you fkn joking? McDonald’s pays more lol…..

[@christenw.1726]

Avoiding union agreements is shameful

[@jmd1743]

The Fed needs to approach commercial property owners & current buisness renters an offer for the land lord to let the business occupant to walk away with zero penalties if the land lord converts the property intro apartments, or demolish the structure to replace it with a multi-use structure. Offer a stupid low interest rate such as 1 percent. The biggest issue our cities have is the lack in infill. I support investing in billions of dollars in new train routes & train equipment, and bus routes & buses but I don't want to spend all of that money for getting people to and from disgusting strip malls which would be not only a depressing investment for society but also extremly uneconomical. I get that public transit shouldn't make money but I would rather not spend substantially more on keeping the routes active with how vacant the communities are. If I were a senator I would pass a law that would exempt SROs from the law that forbids "adult only" apartments from being constructed & operated due to discrimination laws. I would bombard our communities with SROs to get homeless inviduals off the street including sex offenders. You can't get the homeless sex offenders off the street if there are children living in these nano sized apartments. Single room occupancy (more commonly abbreviated to SRO) is a form of housing that is typically aimed at residents with low or minimal incomes who rent small, furnished single rooms with a bed, chair, and sometimes a small desk.[1] SRO units are rented out as permanent residence and/or primary residence [2] to individuals, within a multi-tenant building where tenants share a kitchen, toilets or bathrooms. SRO units range from 7 to 13 square metres (80 to 140 sq ft).[3][1] In some instances, contemporary units may have a small refrigerator, microwave, or sink.[1]

[@PraetorianAU]

Here's an idea. If a company receives any government money, they should have to be 100% transparent as to where every dollar was spent. Every single dollar must be accounted for. Companies should have to lay out where the money will be spent and on what before receiving any financial support. If any of that money ends up being misused, they should have to pay back every dollar along with a penalty for fraudulent practices.

[@micosstar]

tony i feel so bad for ya!

[@nil981]

If this is not further proof that unionization is nowhere near enough to bring about socialism. We need democratic ownership and control of the means of production by the workers and for the workers. We need workplace democracy.

[@seanhartnett79]

True

[@tigertiger1699]

Hard to believe the lack of worker protections/ employment laws in the US Here in little NZ everyone beginners included.. give mandatory min 4 weeks paid leave &&&& min 10 days sick pay