Why GM Says Its Ultium Batteries Will Lead It To EV Dominance

General Motors says it wants to lead EV sales in North America by 2025, and vows that its new Ultium battery platform will drive that dominance. But what makes GM’s EV battery and motor technology different from competitors, including industry leader Tesla?
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Why GM Says Its Ultium Batteries Will Lead It To EV Dominance

[@TJMartinek]

I love how GM talks so confidently, as if they didn't ignore EV tech for a decade...

[@brunoheggli2888]

Who cares about the past?Sure not me!The present and the future is all what counts!GM will doing great!

[@nick_0]

New company direction is always welcomed

[@a.m.doesit9347]

I bought a Ford Maverick. I am averaging 44mpg on my daily commute, but the next vehicle I get will most likely be an EV......kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2arpH2oiLOlbtk but who evers builds an electric truck in the same size they got my $$$$

[@brich2712]

Maybe they were studying it behind the scenes.

[@nobutoneme1325]

@@brunoheggli2888 it's exactly what Thomas is saying. GM is making this optimistic assumptions based on past technology and not looking 5 years from now, this feel-good video doesn't state the obvious: that pouch batteries are already at the tail-light of EV technology as of today

[@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403]

"In China, GM sells more electric cars than Tesla..." Yes, the "car" is the Wuling Hong Guang Mini EV, which is basically a golf cart.

[@lanzer22]

Don’t forget to mention that their plan was to sell China made EV to Americans but Trump slapped on the tariffs and suddenly they’re a proud American manufacture.

[@mikafiltenborg2291]

GM only own 40% of Wuling, BUT GM count All Wuling cars sales! Lol. GM are runs by 🤡🤡🤡

[@Thisisstupid12]

It's also a Chinese car.

[@PeteZam]

it also isnt even number one anymore, and it has been outsold for several quarters now by tesla, but i expect nothing less from a trash news org like this.

[@stevepailet8258]

yes but they only make $14 per vehicle

[@BIGTONY2132001]

The General Motors EV1 was an electric car produced and leased by General Motors from 1996 to 1999. It was the first mass-produced and purpose-designed electric vehicle of the modern era from a major automaker and the first GM car designed to be an electric vehicle from the outset, if G.M. would have stuck with its EV program they would be #1 in through out the world today.

[@erossinema8797]

That's one of the many reasons I don't care what GM does----I will never own a car with their nameplate on it. They're scatterbrained and scream unreliable. The EV1 was a ridiculously missed opportunity.

[@MrCountrycuz]

Ifs are for children.

[@calmorton4619]

@@MrCountrycuz B) We were all children once upon a time... But we grew up and started punching back? Ain't gonna get clobbered by any "if (you don't stopdat rightnow!)" that constrains our (not your's) cherished freedoms? Merci for your "if" ...tizz a gem

[@Donovaan]

If you're gonna quote Wikipedia, give them credit. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_EV1

[@BIGTONY2132001]

@@Donovaan Keep reading its not all WIKI...

[@btpiercy845]

I remember 20 years ago GM said the same thing about hydrogen fuel cell vehicles…systemic dishonesty at its best

[@heyheythecat]

I'm glad there is Tesla. If not Tesla, these dinasour brands will probably never transform into EV.

[@philmanke7642]

Love yer I.D.!.!.!.

[@nswanberg]

I not certain people want BEVs. They want a Tesla. When you buy a Tesla you are sticking it to the man.

[@jacquesthompson2946]

You are soo right. GM has never made great cars. I dont see a change. Their cars dont do well overseas

[@TheBDD1970]

@@blakejohnson3864 Hmmm I thought the goal was to reduce carbon emissions? I agree, the appeal is there now.

[@waterheaterservices]

@@jacquesthompson2946 My 1966 Cadillac may not last even fifty more years.

[@ag4eng]

I hope it works for GM Ultium batteries because they cannot afford anymore fires.

[@fivepointeightnate]

Doesn't matter if they won't have cars to put them in for 2-3 years. Just smoke and mirrors while they try to figure things out like how to make 20 models of electric cars hahahaha

[@ag4eng]

@@fivepointeightnate GM is leaning on LG for the Ultium system. On the other tech end, they have Super Cruise. It is possible they learn from the past. For now they are in bad shape.

[@henryhill3778]

@@fivepointeightnate Exactly!

[@Norantio]

The repairable/upgradable battery pack is definitely a great step forward. Tesla integrating the pack into their body structure is nice and all, but its frozen in place. They're already not good at customer service.

[@vettefan7965]

@@FabianVolf1 That Model S has gone through 2 (or more, not specified) battery packs and 8 drive motors.

[@Tore_Lund]

Pouch cells are the way to get highest energy density battery pack. Kia does it and pr. kwh, this packs the tightest. Samsung dipped below $100 per kWh two years ago on the cell level.

[@mocheeks709]

Battery swap technique better than charging, a lot faster.

[@Ry_TSG]

@@FabianVolf1 Given how much simpler electric cars are than gas cars, I bet you many EVs will be able to drive over a million miles regularly with proper maintenance. The problem is not the car itself but the fact that the battery will get worn down over time, which is where having a modular, serviceable battery system will be very important

[@Ry_TSG]

@@mocheeks709 It's incredibly wasteful and not very useful considering EVs can take as little as 15 minutes to charge nowadays

[@steveakin1103]

Going forward, I recommend you include a comparative analysis among all the manufacturers with their EV’s regarding maximum charge rate, maximum range, and efficiency (including whether or not the models have a heat pumps). It is in these three areas that people find the most value with her EV’s because these three areas point to the true long-term value of those vehicles.

[@markplott4820]

TESLA model Y "50D" made in AUSTIN is Superior to anything made by Legacy auto,

[@VickersDoorter]

Adults roll their eyes at the "I was like" millennial verbal tick. Now a strata of adults have a verbal tick of their own. It's "Going forward". Completely superflous and pointless, it can be used at the beginning or end of sentences; going forward...

[@fladave99]

Ford says their truck has a 300 mile range. When towing its really about 50 MILES. Its all a big scam. OIL produces hundred of products INCLUDING FERTILIZER for the entire world. So we will STILL be a oil based market. I just wonder whatthey are going to do with all the gasoline that will STILL BE PRODUCED< but not used by anything. Where are you going to store all those MILLIONS of barrels of gas every day and what is the result when it catches fire and cant be extinguished

[@danielstory2761]

This was probably partly sponsored by them, this is literally hot air

[@andrewbrown6578]

Right now Mercedes has the range advantage pretty much locked down, even tesla new battery cannot come close to Mercedes battery range. Others have vastly improved electric motors and weigh only 18kg, can produce 700hp each. Others have various other amazingly advanced advantages to others, Tesla the cause of the ev revolution has maybe the closest to autonomous driving, but Others have caught up to them before they have even released it. Quality of build must go yo VOLVO although they need to lower weight drastically. Others are way behind in ev development yet , but I for one am do happy not to own an ev right now as energy companies greed is making ev ownership just way too expensive right now.

[@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403]

"Around 2008, we said people really want an EV..." Yeah, we all did, after we saw the success Tesla was having! 😂😂😂

[@dipladonic]

Axiomatically, ubiquitous EVs will destroy the electricity grid. I'm incredulous as to why that isn't blatantly obvious to everyone.

[@SA2004YG]

@@dipladonic it will be upgraded

[@waynelewis9110]

@@dipladonic The grid is actively being improved. The transition to EVs isn’t an overnight thing. The transition from horses (or no means of transportation at all) to ICE vehicles wasn’t overnight either.

[@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403]

@@dipladonic I'm incredulous as to why you're not familiar with the steps that are being taken to deal with this. Everyone knows that if everyone starts pulling from the grid, it won't be able to handle it...AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS. Which is why there are already projects underway to increase the capacity overall. The only thing that has slowed this down is politicians who are beholden to the fossil fuel industry and want to see EVs fail.

[@dipladonic]

@@SA2004YG What with...dilute, intermittent wind and sun generated electricity!

[@user-to2rf1rj5v]

4:33 Tesla is already using LFP batteries in nearly 50% of the cars sold this year. Even in their NCA cars, they use less cobalt than any other EV maker today.

[@brunoheggli2888]

Tesla is to slow,and already behind,they dont even have a truck,its laughable!

[@oxide9717]

@@brunoheggli2888 You gotta be a troll for sure . Tesla is Slow ? It doesn't matter how fast your running if your running in the wrong direction the Rivian and lightening are really inefficient and you can tell it was rush Tesla couldnt release the cybertruck this year bcos they were waiting for the high yield of the 4680 . When the cybertruck comes out it gonna make the other trucks look outdated.

[@user-to2rf1rj5v]

@@brunoheggli2888 That's the funniest, most false thing I've heard yet today. Congrats.

[@brunoheggli2888]

@@user-to2rf1rj5v Tesla made zero trucks!Its all just hot air!The cyberyruck will be extremly expensiv,so its not a product for the masses!

[@kiuklee90]

Tesla use LFP for model 3 and short range models because they are cheap and CATL supplies most of LFP. They use LG's battery for long range model x and y, even in China market.

[@michaelbabella9012]

they had the tech leading car in the 80's, the EV1...they CRUSHED all of them!

[@hollywoodundeadandpinkguyf2842]

The price and range justtttttt hit the right spot for me. If GM's ultium pack does have a minimum of 300 range and is 30k that would be a top competitor to me.

[@blindtoby8967]

Ten years life span...

[@calmorton4619]

@@blindtoby8967 10 years...based on 10 seconds of typing, yes?

[@wattlebough]

Problem is they only made 26 EVs in Q1 of 2022. With all that head start and experience you’d expect GM to be making and exporting millions of them every year. What’s wrong with this picture?

[@dingbop963]

Less lifespan than LFP

[@travisyarbrough4033]

Remember they are still using LG fire causing cells in the packs. A burned down EV is not worth much. Remedy is to cut your range that you bought with it. So be careful. Unfortunately a current EV owner waiting almost three years for a word on recall replacement. Profit over safety and range is subject to their choosing later on......

[@DrakeShattuck]

I hear a lot of "gonna do", "gonna make". GM is just putting on a happy face for investors. They are light years behind Tesla and other startups and the only EV that they have sold in any numbers is the bolt which of course they had to recall because of fire risk because they just threw the product out to market; something they often do.

[@Rodrigo8]

You are right. When you have nothing you use the good and old speculation. That's older than my great-grandfather!

[@TToTToTT]

by 2025 while GM reaches tesla's 1mil EV sales, tesla would already be building flying cars...

[@politcallycorrect5816]

light years? lol

[@om8039]

While Tesla says we did or we have done already lol just look at our Gigapresses

[@Nairuulagch]

GM has sided with Oil Mafia and intentionally killed EVs we all know it. GM is the most progress killer corporation ever known. All GM cars are trash at best.

[@see-it-for-yourself]

So far the only dominance they've had is in BEV recalls

[@rand49er]

LG's problem in manufacturing the Bolt's battery which is not Ultium by the way.

[@constantinosbou]

@@rand49er Well, it was GM's product was it? Full responsibility for GM. Lg is just a partner.

[@utah133]

I've owned three different Chevy Volts, the large-battery hybrid they built 2011-2019. They knew what they were doing even then. Volts are very dependable. The battery management system was very well designed.

[@wattlebough]

The problem is in Q1 of2022 they only made 26 of them, in 3 months. After eleven years of experience with the Volt you’d expect they’d be making and exporting millions. What’s wrong with this picture?

[@utah133]

@@wattlebough After they sold enough to where the government rebate was no longer available the price was less attractive. GM wasn't making much on the Volt anymore. . So they said

[@steven4315]

Because the Volt ICE motor was used as a range extender the battery management system works well on the Bolt.

[@ClosestNearUtopia]

I highly doubt how upgrade-able this system will be for the future. Cool to say another cell can be placed later on, but the bms might not like that, or the batteries, or the batteries might NOT fully work to their full potential, why else even upgrade. Or will they die fast?

[@dingbop963]

GM will be out of business before anybody wants to do that

[@rights_are_god_given]

They know they won't last and it will generate a ton of revenue on exploratory investigation fees. Oh, sorry sir, it took us 6 hours to determine it was this packet. 1000$ for inspection and labor to assess and another 800$ for the packet and install.

[@beans4gas]

The proof in the pudding is in the eating. It is hard to see that GM can make a good quality product, give their track record.

[@rand49er]

Do you know anything at all about GM's products? I'm sure you own only foreign cars, what was I thinking.

[@beans4gas]

@@rand49er Nope. Im just a keyboard warrior. The comment is mostly with reguard with their EV attempt. You ever hear of the Bolt or Nikola? I own several classic vehicles which I put in an GM LT, LS engine, wirh a 4L80e tranny. Yes I do follow up with GM and given how old and big they are I am disappointed in their failed attempts.

[@cerverg]

I haven't laughed that much in years... Thank you, GM!

[@nick_0]

It's the smug confidence that benefits the consumer tho :)

[@virgilpalmer2427]

Yeah, it's laughable for sure..

[@gregelseman8546]

​ GM has had battery tech but wanted to make a profit. They had the largest battery lab in the world back in 2009 when they invented the Chevy volt and been quietly working on it.

[@alanpinnt]

Guy from Munro is on the money. GM has the ability to innovate and be a game changer but they need a complete corporate structure change for that to happen.

[@gregelseman8546]

Great Job GM... This will do very well. A winner..

[@mastershredder2002]

They really reused that animation of batteries falling into a battery chassis about 100x in this video.

[@LaniakeaDenizen]

Competition's a good thing. We'll see if GM can actually rival other companies with their EVs or if it's just marketing talk.

[@MmC-vn1mf]

Tesla is all marketing talk.....

[@a-don13]

@@MmC-vn1mf Tesla literally don't even a marketing department but go off i guess.

[@MmC-vn1mf]

@@a-don13 Never said Tesla had a marketing department.... Elon IS there marketing... Yet to see a working Hyperloop,robo taxi, ai robot, cyber truck, EV semi, etc etc etc

[@mkocel]

@@MmC-vn1mf A cursory internet search says otherwise, troll

[@a-don13]

@@MmC-vn1mf well... you'll see them. none of their models ever came on time, no different here. plus hyperloop isn't under tesla.

[@solace669]

1:24 "There are countless startups all around the world" *shows Polestar which is just Volvo's premium brand*

[@BradleyT2p2]

1-2 years ago I would have said 100% my first EV will be a Tesla in 2024. Now it's close to 10% a Tesla, 90% something cheaper.

[@chomihai]

Give this narrator a raise, is the best voice of cnbc

[@gaileickhoff116]

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[@idellameyer7411]

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[@yingle6027]

You scam bots are next level with your scams!

[@frankcoffey]

The way demand is for EVs it looks like production numbers is all that matters right now. If you make the most EVs you sell the most EVs, that's it. It will be years before cross shopping starts to matter.

[@the_lost_navigator7266]

"We're working towards a goal where we have zero crashes, zero emissions and zero congestion" You're going to stop selling cars??

[@korswe]

Should Congress pass a legislation that says a company that received a bailout before cannot ask for another bailout unless the previous bailout has been paid back? GM still has not paid back the previous bailout.

[@colingenge9999]

GM has apparently got addicted to bail outs. Everything they do in say is designed to trick politicians in to handing them another bail out. Oddly both Ford and GM manufactured most of their vehicles out of the US so this union job thing is a big hoax.

[@brian4407]

I remember when GM said their new Northstar engine was going to be revolutionary. It turned out to be the most unreliable and poorly designed engine of it's time.

[@rand49er]

The Northstar engine had huge issues. EVERY car manufacturer has engine problems, some really bad. GM has also had some great engines that have magnificent longevity. Why haven't you pointed those out?

[@Jdp313]

Gm also built the 3800 v6 and 5.3 v8 they are as bulletproof as any Honda/Toyota engine I’ve ever seen.

[@dzello]

@@rand49er Because GM having great engines with good longevity is irrelevant and pointing out something irrelevant would make him stupid. Unless they said those engines would be revolutionary, of course, which they did not. But when they did with the Northstar engine, it was not, which is why it's relevant here. Keep up.

[@aurelio-reymilaorcabal9669]

@@rand49er GM is good , .... @ makiing 🍋 lemons.LOL

[@aurelio-reymilaorcabal9669]

@@Jdp313 i had a 3.8 Buick GN terrible engine, gas hog too.

[@ShortFunnyTales]

What about fire hazards? Is it eliminated?

[@Risk-on1]

Funny how the company that destroyed EVs are now investing in them 🤡

[@rand49er]

I doubt you know anything at all about EVs nor what kind of battery the EV1 used.

[@daydreamer8373]

@@rand49er Whether he does or not, he is not wrong.

[@rjtheultimateputa]

I hope GM takes this opportunity to make their cars class competitive again, especially when it comes to built quality and interior designs. Their current affordable and mainstream offerings have been neglected for too long (and I say this as an owner of a '17 Malibu Premier)

[@raulcasas4548]

Let’s thank Obama for saving it.

[@a.m.doesit9347]

I bought a Ford Maverick. I am averaging 44mpg on my daily commute, but the next vehicle I get will most likely be an EV......kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2arpH2oiLOlbtk but who evers builds an electric truck in the same size they got my $$$$

[@dmiller9786]

Sorry about the Malibu. Did you lose a bet? Kidding aside, taste counts. GM lacks taste. Toyota is rushing to join them.

[@g37fy68]

You wasted your hard earned money on a Chevy Malibu that’s your first mistake so many better built quality cars at that price range why a gm

[@bahamatodd]

Tesla has proven that build quality isn't actually that important to buyers

[@Hypercube9]

The Tesla Roadster has a range of 620 miles. Odd that you left that out. It also goes 0-60 in 1.9 seconds!

[@petersimplife]

Who knows if that thing will ever come out

[@Hypercube9]

@@petersimplife Why wouldn't it come out? They made a roadster before so it's not like they're starting from scratch.

[@MP-zf7kg]

All this stuff is still way expensive. One of the main points of electrification is the reduction in tight-tolerance, high-assembly time mechanical components. You pretty much end up with one moving part, the motor spindle. Point being is that when these machines are mature, they ought to cost one helluva lot less to make than ICE vehicles.

[@omelborpon3159]

Totally agree. Much simpler and fewer components, and fewer labor hours needed for assembly. When production numbers scale up, EVs should be cheaper.

[@allencooper3622]

Just read an article,that changing the battery is more expensive than a new vehicle. Don't know if it's TRUE, but agree with you, way to expensive for the majority of people. Then again that may be their intention that only the rich and the government will be the only ones driving( won't need as many charging stations with that theory)

[@franklinmartin8103]

The right tolerance just moved to the electrode thickness and how much and how quickly both electrode swell inside that pouch. The cathode swells a bit more on charging. So there isn't really a reduction in right tolerance parts. It just gets shifted to the new parts added like the Energy storage system, (the battery pack) and it's related parts. Electrode swelling and thermal management will be the new quality challenges, especially when electrode thicknesses, both material coating and metal substrate are measured in micron or equivalent, ( 0.0001").

[@noliver7913]

@@allencooper3622 Was it a GM vehicle?

[@harrykwan734]

Oh imagine if GM had this world changing vision 30 years ago when they had the resources to lead the way. They could have launched a revolution. They could have called it the EV 1.

[@harrykwan734]

@AndreVsHimself Big Oil, big car parts, dealers reliant on service... No one in the automotive machinery was incentivized to switch. Change could not be driven from within the ICE industry as long as oil was reasonably priced.

[@rand49er]

Harry, I bet you'd be happy with a lead-acid battery powering your car for those 30 years, too.

[@harrykwan734]

@@rand49er I bet if the industry prioritized the advancement we would not have needed to wait thirty years. Innovation speed is dependent on priorities.

[@aurelio-reymilaorcabal9669]

@@rand49er Gotta start somewhere, and look how far Tesla/ TSLA has come, the most valuable company that happens to make cars, oh Elon thinks that its Energy division , as in Power Walls, Powerpacks and Megapacks could be even bigger than the car business as the Whole World goes renewable.

[@maryhadda8420]

Woulda, coulda, shoulda... but didn't!

[@ironvoice5079]

I am amazed by GM development results in the last few years, their vehicles have been the Boeing 737 max in the car industry. All kinds of issues from faulty start switches that lock steering wheels to crappy engines that last very little; who can forget those vehicles that automatically change paint color. I mean the ones which paint is peeling off, that is nuts. Hopefully this time I am wrong but don't have high expectations from GM vehicles.

[@bahamatodd]

Recent faulty start switches? The vehicles from that issue are over 20 years old now.

[@taefravis]

@@bahamatodd The rest is recent as is GM hitching themselves to Fraudstown Motors....sorry I meant to say Lordstown Motors and then again to Scamola...sorry I meant to say Nikola. Yeah those two went really well didn't they? lol

[@rand49er]

Another anti-America business person. GM isn't perfect, but the "examples" you mention are fictitious. EVERY car manufacturer has good and not so good products. Our family has three GM vehicles, a Volt, a Cadillac ATS, and Cadillac SRX. None have been perfect, but they have been far better than what you've outlined in your comment.

[@ironvoice5079]

@@rand49er all the contrary, I am a pro-American business person however, I can admit when a company is making junk. I have been involved in the auto industry for many years including directly involved with GM and there is a reason for the company to have such bad reputation. You may have a good experience with y your vehicles nonetheless, GM doesn't make the most reliable vehicles.

[@mguerra310]

@@rand49er i feel sorry for you. 3 junk cars. If you could buy a cadillac should of went european. Dullard

[@larryo6874]

Saying and doing are very different things. I wish GM the best but Tesla, Ford, Rivian, Volkswagen are way ahead of GM on the EV front.

[@talisayslim5481]

I have solar panels on my roof, but it will be a cold day in hell when I have an electric vehicle.

[@guru2899]

GM will be a leader in EV technology???? I almost choked on my Tesla Tequila.

[@waynelewis9110]

CNBC made a whole video about how GM will somehow lead in EVs with the Ultium battery. Why didn’t they ever make a video about Tesla’s 4680 batteries or battery day? Because no ad revenue from Tesla? This seems to be an ad for GM 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@MmC-vn1mf]

Lmao Tesla doesn't make their own batteries, it's Panasonic.....

[@guslevy3506]

@@MmC-vn1mf This. How come people don’t know that Panasonic owns Giga Texas, Giga Nevada and Giga Berlin?

[@MmC-vn1mf]

@@guslevy3506 Maybe because they only make the batteries for them.... Please think before you reply next time ok buddy 😃

[@guslevy3506]

@@MmC-vn1mf This is the “no- think” thread! I mean, Tesla made headlines for producing its one millionth 4680 battery back in January, but we’re pretending that they don’t produce their own batteries, no?

[@MmC-vn1mf]

@@guslevy3506 They don't , it's okay kid; one day you'll learn how to do basic research

[@raymondhuot1684]

I was at the Epcot center in 1985 at the energy pavillon and I saw a display of an electric car base frame quite similar to the present model and with a diesel 3 cylinder turbo for recharge and assist. So much time was loosened ……

[@jogibajr]

Diesel so you could roll coal on EVs.

[@TheKentaurion]

Yes, they feel it’s a challenge to get the material for those 140 000 preordered EV pickups. How on earth will they manage to make millions of vehicles a year then?

[@calmorton4619]

How* will there be enough people to drive them? Fuggedabout production #s...where are* the consumer #s?! This hits my robotaxi button big time.

[@awjelfs5034]

Tesla is no longer just about the Vehicle, the production line for Tesla is a astounding piece of technology. It can be upgraded daily and takes ten hours to make a complete vehicle. VW takes 30 hours to make a vehicle.

[@maxfaxdude]

@@Alexius1Komnenos Someone has been in a Tesla lately...

[@theodorehaskins3756]

@@Alexius1Komnenos So what’s in your garage?

[@justin9152]

10 hours VS 30 hours? Well I guess that explains the terrible build quality.

[@dcrook1123]

@@justin9152 I think he meant to say 30 minutes

[@Patrick-bu5vy]

Another meaningless factoid from the Tesla hype machine. How many cars roll off the line in ten hours? 30 hours? Could be identical on a per hour basis.

[@philg6762]

Ford and GM were surprised by the demand for electric trucks ... Gas guzzling behemoths that people buy to drive their kids to school and get groceries in are the perfect candidates for electrification. Moms buy these battlecruisers specifically for the size and their perceived safety, and then whine about the cost of ownership over the lifespan of the vehicle. The local driver is a target rich environment for these kinds of vehicles to be replaced, leaving more fuel for the long haul, heavy lift vehicles that need them.

[@yingle6027]

Great comment

[@ymcpa73]

@@DP-sh3nk The electric versions are still more efficient than the ICE counterpart. Problem is the range when towing. That isn't an issue for people using them to drive around town.

[@MyGoogleYoutube]

Maybe I missed it but how are these packs cooled? I am surprised they didn't mention it but all of the vehicles using this platform will have a heat pump. What is interesting is the cars will use a 400v pack voltage but the trucks use 800v. Neat that is in the same platform.

[@killmozzies]

I just threw away all my eggs, but my eyesight hasn't changed.

[@ashwinikumar6651]

Only issue is the legacy reliability and quality issues GM has had it’s not as bad as Jeep but overall American car makers are not known for reliability like Toyota, Honda, etc

[@kenlieberman4215]

Its better than Tesla.....

[@leonyu9129]

You did, Mary. You electrified the entire automobile industry. I’m serious. You led - and it matters. 🤣

[@johncahill3644]

GM hasn’t led in technology since the early years with Leland and Kettering after they purchased Cadillac. They kept trying though...tried borrowing ideas like the fiberglas car body, rear-mounted air-cooled engines, aluminum cylinder blocks, plastic intake manifolds etc. Mostly they’ve relied on advertising...Heartbeat of America and so on. GM started as a holding company and went right back to their roots in the 70’s when smaller, more efficient cars were needed and GM knew just who to buy from cheap and rebrand as their own. GM has never been a company for going the extra mile and perfecting their borrowed ideas. Don’t be surprised if “Ultium” never performs as cool as it sounds (and I say this as a guy who did engineering on the plastic intake manifolds and Northstar system).

[@timothykeith1367]

I love the smallblock Chevy v8. Over 100 million were produced.

[@h.mandelene3279]

"a guy who did engineering on the plastic intake manifolds and Northstar system" Did you also pick the cylinder head bolts and tap by chance????(threads would strip=loose head\burn coolant)

[@chanjoinaua5273]

Brilliant, but where does the electricity come from? How will you charge all these vehicles from an already overloaded grid?

[@xevious2501]

i find it soooo funny, the story of Elon Musk, his ventures, and how the so called big automotive leaders (and space industry) had scoffed at him. sighting his ventures into their markets was all but doomed. And now looking back.. he's literally flipped both industries on their head. They are now trying their best to catch up to him. All those people that looked to short tesla now with their heads in the sand. He did take huge risks, rolled the dice with the odds stacked mountain high against him, AND his ventures Tesla and SpaceX made it by the slimmest skin of their teeth. but now look at the payofff. both companies having done things never dreamed of prior. OR rather having committed to dreams that would've never been attempted by his rivals. And although things are not wispy perfect, still, its amazing to see how this guy simply went forth with conviction and with the help of other big brains, changed the world.

[@nettieharris]

Do you have a pleasant way with words Comin “wispy perfect” “by the slimiest skin of their teeth”

[@lanzer22]

And for that he is getting the brunt of hate from people. Shows you the power of mainstream media.

[@dhui777]

Elon has the true American spirit.

[@daviddrake6875]

Hear! Hear! Captain America

[@simongross3122]

@@daviddrake6875 Captain Africa, actually :) Well good for him. He's definitely a great leader and a hero.

[@FishyFelix]

The same manufacturer that made EV1 way before Tesla and scrapped the electric vehicles for making super size gas guzzling SuVs, Hummers.

[@rand49er]

What do you drive, Felix? No doubt a foreign car because you despise America.

[@brotherdaveseattle2791]

That was decades ago, get with the times

[@blainegabbertgabonemhofgoa6602]

@@brotherdaveseattle2791 gm has only gotten worse since. Sold out to China after bankruptcy

[@MsNickie1001]

You couldn’t give me a GM product. No thanks. I’ll stick to my old Prius.

[@FishyFelix]

@@MsNickie1001 I traded my GM 7 years ago ago, and I got myself a Toyota Corolla hatchback. Best car I've ever owned.

[@TheWildwoodPicker]

You show me where the 450 Mile Range Lryiq Car is, and I will go buy it right now! I went to a Cadillac Dealership 2 nights ago and all I'm seeing are 307 Miles Cadillac Lryiq's currently stocked. The one thing that is holding me back from getting an EV right now is Range. I'm used to getting a good 435 to 450 Mile Range on my 2020 Cadillac XT5 right now, but the gas prices just keep going up like crazy. I just can't see myself going from 435 Mile Range down to a 307 Mile Range, and that is when the weather is good too... When it gets cold out that Range goes way down too.

[@ericcindycrowder7482]

GMs first fully electric vehicle after the EV1 was not the Bolt EV, it was the Spark EV which was sold on selected markets in the USA. Funny how General Motors forgot about their Spark EV

[@silvernoob1603]

GM had the opportunity for dominance right from the start with the EV1, who knows where we would be now had they kept going.......

[@solosailorsv8065]

GM also had co-engineered a full range of charging components with Hughes at the EV1 time....wasted

[@Lildizzle420]

I feel in my heart I know they're not telling the truth, you understand when you realize that reducing range anxiety is increasing vehicle miles traveled and high VMT means more congestion.

[@brotherdaveseattle2791]

In your heart? whatever

[@georgiaguardian4696]

I have high admiration toward these top engineers of America.

[@2008koss]

I'm watching this now in May 2024 ...LOL

[@Ahldor]

I wonder when the fossiil industry will stop using cobalt in oil refining...

[@simongross3122]

Really? Is cobalt used in oil refining, or are you making a joke?

[@kylereese4822]

@@simongross3122 Yes it is used....

[@simongross3122]

@@kylereese4822 I didn't know that. Interesting. So we have "blood oil" as well as "blood batteries". Well, it's a bloody mess, anyway.

[@kylereese4822]

@@simongross3122 Cobalt is being fazed out in batteries but not in oil....

[@daydreamer8373]

@@henryvalera3480 Actually Cobalt is used as a simple catalyst, and most is recycled. Ironically probably around 98%.

[@paulrobinson3649]

Does this mean that GM will return to all of the markets that they abandoned, i.e. everywhere other than North America and China? The rest of the world wants to know.

[@simongross3122]

Yes, we in Australia want to know. They left us as soon as our government stopped giving them taxpayer money. Caused a lot of unemployment and hardship.

[@konstantinos4395]

Nah, we really don't need them. Some of the worst cars ever created

[@rand49er]

They'll be back in Europe I've read with EVs.

[@paulrobinson3649]

@@rand49er I wonder what brand they'll use. Chevrolet may mean Corvette to many, but here it was a badge glued to the former Daewoo Matrix (dig deeply in the Web if you're not familiar, but it's not for the faint hearted)

[@konstantinos4395]

@@rand49er Let's hope not

[@criticaluplink]

The GM engineer front hair bangs is legit

[@Loopyengineeringco]

The director of GM's electrification just said the negative side was the anode 🤦‍♂

[@darylfoster7944]

GM doesn't even realize how far behind it is. Bankruptcy is almost inevitable (followed by another bailout).

[@garym2282]

I don't think they've paid off their last bankruptcy! They're billions in the hole!

[@mikafiltenborg2291]

GM bankrupt before 2027

[@Thisisstupid12]

My tax dollars better not be used for bailout. Biden can pay for it.

[@none-qs3sl]

bet.

[@bigfoot2547]

Screw that nonsense. No bailouts for anyone anymore. The American people are the only ones that never get bailed out.

[@magamike1800]

She just needs to keep that 40 million dollar salary going for a few more years.

[@henryhill3778]

Now that's TRUTH !

[@renewableinvesments6826]

With GM and other US makers getting involved (finally) we are probably near the top.

[@jandrosantana5111]

Don't worry china will steal the tech and undercut the market. We'll only be able to enjoy it for so long.

[@johnnyo3220]

Eventhough I love my 17 year old Dodge Ram Hemi PU, I would be happy for now with a well-engineered hybrid. Much better fuel economy for average every day driving, but you would lose much of that when using the vehicle for towing. This is the tradeoff and I'm willing to go that way since towing would happen much less than daily driving. Ultimately, I would switch to full EV if GM or others could provide a platform, as other EV owners want, one with adequate range. I don't like the poor fuel economy on current pickup trucks, diesel units are ridiculously priced and ultimately, I want to separate myself from using fossil fuels altogether. We are slowly but surely poisoning the planet and with exploding populations in third world countries and clear cutting the Amazon and other rain forests for palm oil plantations and cattle ranches, we are killing the environment from all angles. It's time for change and co-existence with nature.

[@kustomzone]

So Ultium is basically Unobtainium wrapped in Unaffordium. 🙄

[@henryhill3778]

Exactly!

[@meeyou3128]

#1 EV in the US????? This will age well.

[@andromeda9340]

facts,In terms of legacy auto this is true.if you put tesla in the mix then nope lol

[@scottmiller3131]

Like how they throw away the line “our partners in China” as if SAIC doesn’t own 50% of GM outright. Additionally SAIC owns all the rights for GM electric vehicle technology and development for GM. The lyric and other GM EV’s save for the Hummer and Silverado are whiskey built in China. Not to mention 8 out of 10 ICE passenger cars. GM is China owned.

[@bobbinatorrah67]

I'm generally a Ford fan, I want the lightning, but I will say that it's crucial that the manufacturer intends to repair their EV's on a cell/pouch level - as opposed to simply replacing the whole pack whenever you... oh I don't know... bust a coolant hose fitting, like Tesla was in the news for.

[@davidkettell5726]

The lightning is great but why does it cost $80,000 ?

[@ihatecrackhead]

@@davidkettell5726 to leave room for the dealer to add fees

[@nathandavidhall]

@@davidkettell5726 the base model is around $40k, plus there's a $7500 federal rebate not to mention possible state rebates depending on location

[@philipjohn4149]

Yes. When battery replacement is so expensive... I need a 15 or 20 year 500 000 warranty.

[@rcpmac]

@@davidkettell5726 Why does a Grand Cherokee cost $90,000?

[@togobeyond2]

If it wasn't for Tesla GM would never go electric.

[@rcpmac]

So what?

[@Thekingcmk]

It can be a good thing that GM is this confident, they may or may never pass Tesla we will wait and see but if they some how do its a great thing for the EV world. It means companies outside of Tesla are taking this serious. Tesla will always improve that's been a given over the years so it others start to catch up Elon musk has won either way. His goal was to have the world convert to EV not be the only ones doing it. This is why I am a fan of Elon, while he does make smart business moves to grow his companies he doesn't do it in a way that only he can, he makes it where it forces others to step up and get better. You either improve your business like these car companies are doing or you sue him like Bezzos is doing.

[@jeshminhaxarika5479]

I became fan of musk when I saw him in Iron man movie doing a cameo..... Masterstroke

[@MrThe1234guy]

It comes down to who can bring it to the masses for an affordable price.

[@solosailorsv8065]

APTERA might play this video for Pizza & Comedy lunches, LoL !!

[@misturchips]

Something completely left out is the Chevrolet Spark EV (I have a 2014 model). Yes, it's a compliance car, but it is their first true consumer EV not tied to a lease program like the EV1. FANTSTIC little car - has just what you need with a few creature comforts, is affordable, and reliable!

[@RedBatteryHead]

It had an GM badge. It was a Korean design and development. Nothing US based in knowledge.

[@gteixeira]

How many miles you have on it? Did you have any range loss so far? I currently have a Nissan Leaf but I wanted a smaller car with CCS charging and thr Spark EV seems to fit very well, but I wonder if range loss is lower or higher than the Leaf.

[@misturchips]

@@RedBatteryHead And the Bolt is made where?

[@misturchips]

@@gteixeira I can get around 65-75mi per charge, get 4.3mi/kWh, and it has about 98Kmi on it now.

[@RedBatteryHead]

@@misturchips it's now made in US. But the car was a Deawoo development with LG chem. Same as the spark was.

[@lancegrina1225]

Everybody is talking the talk. But most are not getting it to the market for a reasonable price. If this pans out good, I would hope that they also produce these batteries for power walls and for off grid solar systems.

[@Withnail1969]

Batteries are expensive. That's not going to change.

[@v.e.7236]

I heard no mention of a cooling system for those battery packs. How will the inevitable heat be dissipated, so the infamous fire staters known as lithium ion batteries (the pouch style, especially) won't/don't go up in flames? Heat is the enemy of any and every thing.

[@Goldsteinphoto]

There is no mention of overall efficiency or cost comparisons. Clearly LFPs have advantages for many applications. If a car can get the same performance with a smaller less expensive pack, that makes it more profitable to produce...all things considered. Tesla is using a wide variety of cells from several sources. If a new type comes along, they can pivot and use those in some or all vehicles. They can still use their "older" cells in Megapacks and Powerwalls. So they have great flexibility. If you are an Uber driver or fleet owner, you will buy/lease the car with the lowest cost per mile. That looks to be Tesla now. Then there is the overall manufacturing efficiency of Tesla's structural 4680 battery pack where the seats and console are attached and then inserted into the giga cast frame structure from below.

[@TylerVossler]

I hope GE is right. Competition is good for the consumer.

[@ocampbell1954]

The competition won't be coming from them or Ford. It will be from the Chinese companies who's a 100 percent in on EVs not half assed like GM who are going to probably going bankrupt making ICE vehicles.

[@TylerVossler]

@@ocampbell1954 I think you’re probably right. Not too many Chinese vehicle manufacturers exporting to US currently tho. Also surprisingly Toyota seems to have no interest in EVs which is unfortunate and interesting they kinda pioneered hybrids with the Prius. I’d really love to see an electric Carolla or Camry in the $25-$30k price range. I think that’d be a game changer!

[@tonydebreceni8966]

"Any vehicle that we dream up?" That makes sense since all they've been doing is sleeping

[@markthomas7279]

God bless him. Tim sounds like a grandfather doing rap!!

[@matthornton44]

6.00 minutes in and still waiting to hear what makes it different from anything other companies are already doing or developing. This CNBC advertising GM, nothing else.

[@Eric345]

Everything in the future will be electric & automated.

[@henryhill3778]

Ok...

[@stefanweilhartner4415]

i have to agree. everything what they are doing is right, but nothing new. VW released their similar system 2019 with the ID.3. they now try to go for the next generation with cheaper LFP versions for short and mid range and with a silicon loaded anode, they bump up the energy density by about +20% to have a longer range battery for the Buzz. that longer range battery comes next year. for the LFP battery versions, it is not clear who their source is but we know that CATL builds a factory in Erfurt, Germany and they have LFP tech.

[@ernsailor9041]

I think the game changer for EV buyers will be when batteries can be fixed.

[@DavidOwensuk]

Good video, but how will GM cool their battery packs? I saw no details of that…

[@parvezahmedjalil7310]

Riminds me of how Nokia ignored and dismissed the iPhone and then they started to pursue a strategy too late in the game.. Came up with some sub-par products and then died.

[@10001000101]

They didn't just die, their CEO made the historically stupid decision to exclusively use windows mobile and not android, no one bought the phones and then Microsoft picked them up for cheap.

[@taefravis]

Yes, I remember Microsoft CEO of the time Steve Balmer looking at it and laughing saying it would never sell 1million units. Hows that going for him and Microsoft's Windows phone sales? lol

[@pbilk]

@@taefravis Steve Balmer wasn't smart there.

[@13cr1987]

Unlike Nokia, GM had EVs in 1990's, which failed. However, Tesla and Elon worked hard to built reputation and sales. However, GM has numerous manufacturing plants which is vital for big sales and in the future EVs.

[@Chu3505]

@@13cr1987 If GM formulated it chemistries batteries works and to for makings it lithium batteries a lot cheaper.It will blown out expensive Tesla electric cars and it will be stopping money hungry greedy Elon Musk from selling his product brand name at very high markups in prices.

[@didipkerabat]

Isn't this how every single EV manufacturer make their platform? Battery at the bottom, skateboard style, modular battery modules, etc.?

[@daviddrake6875]

Now maybe, but it seems not Aptera.

[@SavageBits]

Tesla moving to a structural battery pack

[@carlaldric545]

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[@cedricdesmet381]

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[@cedricdesmet381]

I must say crypto is the future and with the way Bitcoin is climbing so high it's really advisable for people to invest now.

[@cedricdesmet381]

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[@lindaedi6320]

Ever since I lost my job with the ministry, I have been surviving through my investment with her, am so glad I invested when I did. I’m earring $25k weekly with her

[@lindaedi6320]

Investment is that tiny line that separates the rich from the poor.

[@gw6496]

The U.S don't have to Infrastructure for the electric vehicles to charge them.🤔🤔 what happens to areas that flood??🤔🤔🤔

[@rameshdantuluri3021]

Every company is saying they will dominate in making EVs but it is not an easy one. Now Tesla and BYD are dominating. I am asking a question to General Motors , why you didn't make EVs so far.

[@roland9367]

They already made 3 of them! And they were/are pretty good!

[@influentialnobody8960]

Gm's electric car sales for 2021 here in oz was 450. While tesla sold 12000 😅

[@RayLabs]

I travel long distances (1,600 miles in a trip over 2 days) as such I need both the longer range and also fast charging. And given that I am often in Remote/Rural Places of Wyoming and Montana having a way to quickly charge from a non-super charger type of infrastructure is going to be important for me to move to an EV.

[@rcpmac]

So don't buy an EV. What's your problem?

[@RayLabs]

@@rcpmac If EV's become the only option then in the long run this is an issue that needs to be considered. Especially as the Auto makers are making statements like 100% EV by 2030 etc...

[@ramprasada2682]

I like CNBC videos, as it brings new topics which are relevant and not covered by others.

[@eschdaddy]

GM doesn’t deserve to dominate EVs. It would’ve, if it didn’t sell out to the fossil fuel companies back after the EV1. I wanted them to succeed so bad, but they sold out. Tesla deserves the success they’re enjoying. They’re the ones who forced the industry to change.

[@Optimaloptimus]

Tesla didn't force any change in the industry. GM saw that going for EV then would cost them. The real imbecile forcing the change to EV is the current US President Brandon. Who believes we should have half of the country on EVs by 2030. Which is suicidal for the economy. Furthermore, the electric grid is nowhere near ready to handle the amount of EVs that he wants around by 2030 and the grid won't be ready by 2030 either. The only thing that imbecile is doing is forcing the death of the country and its economy the same way Mao Zedong did with his "Great Leap Forward" in which he wanted China to be completely modernized and industrialized in ten years. Did it work? Nope, instead he killed millions of people and set the country up for its current problems today in 2022.

[@tgilldesign]

We don't need EV's..... we need to start the pumps in America and become energy independent again like we were under Trump. EV's are worse on the environment than fossil fuels and that is a FACT. Anybody that thinks the energy expended during Lithium mining, battery creation, electricity generation, and end of life disposal, etc are environmentally 'friendly' are simply ignorant, or mentally disturbed.

[@eschdaddy]

@@tgilldesign: You need to educate yourself on EVs. And not just that, but the consequences of the pump. Yes, start-up on batteries takes energy, but lithium and Nickel can be recycled from old batteries, much like car batteries are done now. Also, the more electrics are integrated, the longer cars last, along with less maintenance.

[@RosscoAW]

This is like watching a video about Tesla from a literal decade ago. It looks like the batteries inside GMs packs are based on a platform that's roughly that old, too. EDIT: I should have just finished watching. CNBC actually included competent/properly informed critical opinions for once. Nice. Tesla has 12+ month order wait times, so if automakers want to start taking EVs serious, they've got a year to do so. Keep capitalizing while you still can, Mary.

[@taefravis]

With less than 600 EVs sold last quarter Mary and GM have a long long way to go to catch up to Tesla, as in it will never happen.

[@rand49er]

You know zero about Ultium. Goose egg.

[@finnian3931]

Tesla uses Cylindrical batteries tho, extremely different from the Pouch and modular approach with GM. Tesla's are great but let's not pretend that they could catch up.

[@travwill]

Had 4 Teslas. So glad to see competitors due to quality. They are catching up and/or exceeding Tesla now/soon. The "range" in a Tesla is highly over estimated versus other EVs often when in same conditions and their battery tech is strong, but is naive to think other major players won't catch up and/or exceed their production pretty quick, especially in the truck category - only fanboys are going to want an odd shaped trapezoid truck.

[@MusicalMemeology]

They look like pouch cells which is very dangerous and at risk of runaway combustion. Tesla specifically doesn’t use pouch cells for this reason. This isn’t going to end well.

[@ernestorobau1269]

lmfao, I thought they were going to close 3 plants.

[@freeheeler09]

A range of over 400 miles means that EVS now make sense for me. Maintenance is much simpler on electric vehicles becuase their systems are simpler than internal combustion engines. If I can charge the battery with my home solar system, then I'll be able to drive by the charging stations!

[@Karanar]

So no cooling inside the pack? How will this work for anything but the lowest performing cars? Also, no temperature optimized charging, so lower charging speed. No preheating, so lower performance at cold temperatures. How is this good?

[@akira28shima32]

I don’t think people realize how high gas prices will negatively effect the sales of the ICE gas guzzlers that manufacturers love due to high margin. Winter is coming.

[@danyala.1659]

Car demand already exceeds global manufacturing capacity. Automakers have nothing to worry about.

[@TheBandit7613]

High oil prices always leads to low oil prices. High prices makes oil companies pump more.

[@gargalash9191]

@@TheBandit7613 that used to be to true. now shareholders are demanding returns through divs and buybacks so oil companies are more hesitant to invest in capex. Opec is also struggling to up its production and is continually failing to achieve its agreed upon production. the under investment in the sector due to many factors will keep oil relatively high ( i dont see oil going below 75$ for the next 2-3 years)

[@TheBandit7613]

@@gargalash9191 it's 100% artificial. The very first thing Biden did was shut down almost 1/2 of ANWAR. That cut oil production my 2,000,000 BPD. The Permits they claimed to issue are stalled out by the Dept of Interior. He either reverses direction or his party will be punished. People won't tolerate a lack of fuel along with the prices.

[@TheBandit7613]

@@gargalash9191 One other IMPORTANT thing... The push for EV's is a bad joke. The grid is not ready for EV's. What do you think will happen when 150,000,000 people come home from work and plug in their 240 volt, 50 amp chargers? ZAP! There goes about a million breakers. For EV's we'll need thousands of new power plants. The problem, one new plant takes 20 to 30 years along with the permitting issues. So if we start RIGHT NOW and work really hard, maybe in 50 years there will be power for EV's. Windmills and solar won't be enough. Have you seen Michael Moore's documentary Planet Of The Humans? If not, it's free here on KZbin. I suggest you watch it to better understand the renewable energy market and what a huge scam it really is.